@OlderG0ds What did several hundred thousand Russian military personal do against the basically prehistoric Afghanistan forces? THEY GOT THEIR ASSES KICKED. I don't live in a ghetto LOL you simple dog but I know damn well some white guy,without a badge and gun to hide behind or some dumb caveman Russian could never walk into any real Black ghetto AT NIGHT and flash a gun in a drug dealer's face. Cops are getting shot at you dog, how the fuck would some animal Russian be allowed to survive? Fool!
LOL...I'm livin' life wit some burdensome niggas" LOL LOL. Funny as hell. "Cedaverous mothahfuckas" LOL. Even funnier. I love Prop Joe. He and Omar are my favorite characters.
Pure and total bullshit scene with Sergei pulling a gun on Cheese. Let two Russians go into ANY BLACK GHETTO neighborhood in America,at night and try that bullshit. LMAO. They would be two dead motherfuckers.
@OlderG0ds Simple dog! The only mob to ever fuck with Black people in the ghetto were cops. Send those hairy back, Russian savages into any hood in America and they will be hung UPSIDE DOWN with their throats slit like pigs. Some of you white people are so pathetic. Do you really want to brag about who the toughest criminals are? Anything to compete with Black people huh? Sad! Come back to reality and subdue your ego. No white man without a badge could pull that shit off in any Black ghetto.
@ANCIENTMYS Seems like you're the one bragging about your shitty ghettos lol. I don't care what you say 3 Russian mobsters with uzi's in the ghetto ain't going to be fucked with. Black gangs are like little babies playing in the street compared to white gangs like Russian mob. It's funny because its your ego is the one being hurt.
@union410 You know what's funny is that Nick is the one who could have Cheese being a "cadaverous motherfucker" but since he's a decent guy who knew Ziggy fucked it up he wanted to get diplomatic with it. Only to have Prop Joe say he would be a dead man if he didn't know Sergei.
Ten Words the Wire Taught Me: 1. Shitbird 2. Fucknuts 3. Cadaverous 4. YERRRRRRRP! 5. Much obliged. 6. {*Farmer in the Dell whistle*} 7. Sheeeeeeeeeeeeit! 8. Malaka 9. Boris 10. Pit sandwich
@knight7se7en In that case, we can also add 1. "that Pandemic!" 2. Bahmur 3. Contrapment 4. Eyeball witness 5. Good po-lice 6. The faucet/the goose/the golden eggs
Anyone know what the song is @2.13. Somethiing something...game is over...Bmore Town...or whatever is all I could make out...unfortunately no enough for a google search :|
I liked the show of force the Greeks put on those street hoodlums. This is reality they don't stand a chance against organizations like the Russian Mafia, Greek, Albanian, etc.
Not to make it all about racial but generally speaking white gangs are what the black gangs wish they could be, not just controlling a few street corners with kids but a worldwide criminal enterprise full of intelligent men.
@OlderG0ds While you do make a valid point I must point out that some of the most dangerous, organized crime originates from areas with a predominantly black background (think Mugabe). I think it's has more to do with two sides of the same trade. The Greeks supply the product wholesale and the blacks distribute the product among the community. The Greeks don't have the same power of distribution as the locals and they would be fighting over territory with the very same organizations.
No. The blacks, for whatever reason, don't have a sense of community. You see it on the show and in real life. Stringer was the one who had it down right and tried to make everything about business while Avon was trapped in some old playground altercation in his mind. Avon even comes to his senses after Stringer is killed. To those hoods, it's all about the money. When you look at the Italians or the Greeks, they way they operate is structured around their values and traditions.
@OlderG0ds In the 70's one of the richest criminals in the world was Ike Atkinson A.K.A Sergeant Smack. He operated internationally within the U.S. government.
@OlderG0ds it is so funny you can watch a fictional show like the Wire and then come up with you lame two cents on who would control the streets in the real world. Your silly racial assertions. In the real world you fuck up drug package your dead. Plain and simple. Greeks are not dummies and they know a war with proposition Joe is bad for business and is generally unhealthy. Sergei saved that boy's life.
I ain't white. But when I look at all these mother fuckers killing each other off in droves, I'd have to agree. Shit, the Italian mob could pay half of the blacks to kill the other half.
Sergei was friendly toward Joe, but he hated Marlo and only cooperated under pressure. Interesting point regarding the business/gangster idea. "Why always Boris" was also a classic line.
part 3: what is even funnier with the racial dynamic is how nick sides with the greeks. he sees them as allies from the "white like me" standpoint (hence the "you don't look Israeli" comments). what he failed to realize until later is that the greeks are from prop joes world and are they are allies financially rather than racially. hence the shock and anger later when he finds out they were behind his fathers death. great show.
@dewfish This wasn't racial. The Greeks had to keep Frank happy by any means necessary because their product doesn't get into the country without him completely in their pocket. In this instance, that meant helping bail Ziggy out. Sergei and Joe explain it all at 4:22.
@DankstaTV It was racial to Nick and many others like him. Like i said, the greeks were more about money than anything, but people like Nick and ziggy, and even Frank to some extent saw everything through a racial lens. I think they were truly blind to what was going on until it was too late.
part2: and that is what makes it interesting. you can tell nick is uncomfortable with the whole situation because normally, in mainstream society, he and ziggy as white men would have the advantages over the "drug dealing niggers". nick realizes he is out of his element and tries to show out with his attitude. prop joe merely reminds him that nick has no real power in their world. excellent writing and acting all around.
scenes like this make me appreciate season 2. the wire is chock full of parallels between the drug trade and how it fits with mainstream society. honestly, nick is to ziggy what prop joe is to cheese. cheese and ziggy are the fuckups while prop and nick clean up their mess. but since nick and ziggy are in the drug world, they have a lower standing than prop and cheese. cheese has power over ziggy, prop has power over nick. the greeks literally were the only thing keeping them from death.
it's made funnier by the fact he works his way up there without them even noticing. real SAS/Delta/Spetsnaz shit goin on there...corner drug dealers wouldn't stand a chance!
judging such a hugely varied group of people as white people because george bush is one of them is like me judging all black people on someone like mugabe.
@smithyboo70 Yea ok buddy Bush does not equal all whites. And by the way, Obamas doing nothing but adding to Bushs mess and fucking the country up even more, quit talking, you just make your self sound even more stupid then you already are.
@Southup if the russian or greeks wanted to they would massacre your whole hood most of the russian mafia in real life are ex war criminals if they wanted to they could easily blow up your hood with a little bomb or get in abandon buildings and sniper all the people everybody with half a brain nows not to fuck with russian or any other eastern europe gangs
itsfunny black people selling drugs on the corner they think there gangsters but lets be honest white people are the oldest smartest and richest gangsters on this planet even marlo is supplied by the greek who is white even in real life the russian mafia and italian mafia ect supply all these black kids even the biker gangs and aryan brotherhood smuggle tons of herione back from mexico and guess who they supply the small time black drug dealer on the corner the supplier is the real gangster.
@SLJJERK22 hahaha wtf are you dumb the whole world nows white gangs would DESTROY ANY BLACK GANGs thats the whole point of this video the russians and israeli gangs and other eastern european gangs and the italian mafia ect would kill any black gangs. white gangs are selling drugs before black people even now what drugs were black gangs are to easily got there always standing on the conor were white gangs are more low profile and harder to find so in a war whites would win hands down
@michaelcollinslegend white people dont got the heart black niggas kill just for respect or in my situation i had to shoot any random person so they would trust me
@SLJJERK22 thats because ppl like the russian mafia the mafia in italy the italian/american maifa irish mafia israeli gangs turk gangs ect are crime organization that keep it low profile and make billions from drug trafficking and supply black gangs like the greek in the wire but white street gangs like aryan brotherhood nazi lowriders russian neo nazi hells angles outlaw mc ect are as rutless as any black or mexican street gang
@michaelcollinslegend So with all that ignorant shit you are saying, Do you know anything about the streets of Chicago, Philly,Detroit, or Los Angeles? None of those white gangs have influence over any Black Mob/gang period. Stop talking out of emotions and ignorance. Your ego proceeds you and makes you look silly.
@LOU1982 i am sure Vagos mc Bandidos mc Warlocks mc Sons of Silence mc Outlaws mc Pagans mc Mongols mc and Hell’s Angels all have chapters in those states you named like they do in every state in america they even have chapters in australia denmark russia ukraine england ect and there is a big aryan brotherhood and nazi lowrider population in los angels so shut the fuck up and theres eastern european gangs all over america unlike dumb black gangs dont stand on the conor wearing there gang color
@michaelcollinslegend Being that they may have chapters in those cities, name me one story where they have went to war and taken over territories occupied by Black Mobs/gangs. Lol. Never. For sure the Biker gangs don't have the numbers to go up against the Peoples and the Folks in Chicago, Detroit forget about it!, and Los Angeles all the biker gangs are out in the desert! I really don't give a shit about a gang in eastern Europe that has nothing to do with major American cities. no emotions!
@LOU1982 For sure the Biker gangs don't have the numbers to go up against the Peoples and the Folks in Chicago' every biker mc in the states have thousand of members and every mc has thousand of members in other chapters in countrys all over the world there international they would outnumber black gangs in Chicago fact and dont the biker gangs and aryan brotherhood and nazi lowriders ect control the crank trade with a iron fist in states were there black gangs why dont they fight them for it
@michaelcollinslegend Dude let me end this with a simply explanation, its called geographical differences. Black gangsters revolves around the inner cities while Biker gangs operate in rural areas. America is not the only place in the world with people of color. You have Nigerian Organized crime, criminal groups in the Caribbean (mind you the Italians did not want war with the Jamaicans during the crack era) and many other so called Black criminal groups. The prison system is filled with
@LOU1982 the ira would kill any gang black white or brown if the brits couldn't beat them no gang would there the oldest and most feared gorilla army on this planted even mi5 said it they even train colobian drug cartels type this into yt Colombian drug lords - trained by the IRA and watch this doc Gaddafi & The IRA Part One. and white gangs dont just operate in rual parts theres ghettos in italy and russia that are amillion times more dangerous then america watch the film the gomorrah 2008
@michaelcollinslegend Dude you are talking about a para military group vs a gang. You are all over the place! I am only talking about America, I don't care about the IRA or none of that other shit. Me personally If I were a betting man, I would bet that any Mexican cartel or the Mexican Mafia would sweep and mop the IRA all over the place. I guarantee you that not fucking with Los Zetas or any other narco-terroist group in Mexico. Those guys control Billions of dollars and are Special forces.
@LOU1982 no cartel gang or terrorist group would mop the floors with the ira the ira are the oldest and best freedom fighters and gorilla army on these planet and the whole world now it even mi5 and mi6 said it you need to do ALOT MORE RESEARCH ON THE IRA BECAUSE YOUR MAKEING A FOOL OUT YOURSELF most terrorist groups are trained by the ira to make bombs and fight armys like they did in northern ireland even clombian rebels in d jungle are trained by the ira and in return they get coke google it
@michaelcollinslegend i can tell straight away you are one of these guys who deep down feels inadequate so you try and associate yourself with groups of people more notable and interesting than yourself so other people will respect you, even though you only have an insignificant link with the groups in question.
@michaelcollinslegend Black Criminal groups. Like BGF, Kumi Nation, Black Muslims and etc. You have no clue in what your talking about! The Gangsters in the Nation of Islam alone are widely respected in the criminal underworld in America, Highly disciplined and organized and low key. In the criminal underworld everyone needs each other. The product and the service needs to get to certain territories. Russians don't give a fuck who they make money with, as long as you have the money they will
@LOU1982 To my knowledge 'white' gangs around the world like the US and Italian/Sicilian Mafia, Russian, Ukrainian, Albanian etc may be richer than 'black' gangs in SOME areas, but then I agree with you that things get confusing with the definition of gang with different groups. NOI and Panthers arguably organised grime and Lucas and Barnes held a lot of weight back in the day, even now I hear there's significant West Indian and Dominican (if you count that as 'Black' not Hispanic)
@BBoyEdgy In African countries there's definitely organised criminal activity with issues like conflict diamonds in Sierra Leone etc and the Arms Trade where a myriad of other social and political issues I guess blur the criteria and definitions of 'gangs' I suppose.
@michaelcollinslegend They will do business with you, At least here in America. This video displays this. So you coming from another country calling people dumb and having no true knowledge of what your speaking of is ridiculous. Check your ego at the door and go learn history that is outside of white supremacy which is a sick condition in itself. Oh and the meth trade is a white mans drug here in this country. Black gangs really have no interest in that shit. That's like saying why don't
@LOU1982 and irish and blacks were always the most discriminated against when oliver cromwell exiled thousands of irish people as slaves to the caribbean they arrived the same time as african slaves and they were treated the same irish people were actually the frist people to be sold as slaves when king james the ll invaded ireland and killed 500,000 people for being catholic he sold 30000 irish political prisoners to the new world google it
@michaelcollinslegend White gangs for Black gangs for the crack trade. It will not happen. White crack heads and heroin addicts go to the inner city to get their fix and then they go back to wherever they go to and get high. Speaking of Italians they don't consider themselves American white, they differentiate themselves from anglo saxons. It wasn't until the early 20th century that they were actually called white. They were spit on and called dirty just like all the other immigrants.
@LOU1982 It wasn't until the early 20th century that they were actually called white. They were spit on and called dirty just like all the other immigrants. yea just like the irish when they were slaves they weren't considered white they were called negros turn inside out and african were called smoked irish google it i the rish were discriminate against for years 'no irish need apply' even up until the 70s in england there sings everywere in england saying 'no irish no blacks no dogs'
@michaelcollinslegend Its funny that you come on videos based of a tv show and show your silly ass emotions. Like get over it! White people are not superior to anyone. We all have the same issues on this planet. Don't try to debate me unless you really know what the fuck your talking about because I will and I repeat I will make you look silly!
@michaelcollinslegend Stop looking at gangland, that shit is very inaccurate. How about this, for the past ten years a Black man has had the final word over the biggest military in the world. Colin Powell and Barack Obama. Now that's real power. Now what leader or gang is over the US Government? Don't worry I will wait.
@LOU1982 theres italian mafia familys in every state in america but because of all the heat they get there extremely low profile but if a black gang started any shit with them they would whipe them out they have connections to the the gomorrah (the mafia in italy) how make billions of euro each year and are extremely powerful and if the mafia in america wanted to they could get afew trained assistants over from italy to whipe out a few dumb black people on the conor who think there scarface
@michaelcollinslegend Todays Italian Costra Nostra is a bunch of rats. LoL. They are no where near the Costra Nostra of the past. In New York and Chicago the Italians no longer run the prisons or the jails, its the Black Mobs/ gangs and Latinos run that shit now. The Italians no longer have the numbers they once had. All that Italian domination shit stopped with Nicky Barnes, Frank Mathews, Larry Hoover and Jeff Fort and the guys from phily. These men controlled their own shit without Italians.
@LOU1982 the aryan brotherhood and the mexican mafia control the prisons in america there partners the black are on there own and in EUROPE the irish mafia the gomorrah the russian mafia eastern europe gangs ect control europe they make billions of euro each year and if a black person in ireland italy russia turkey bulgaria ect want to sell drugs the mafias gangs get a BIG PERCENTAGE or there murdered fact
@michaelcollinslegend Are you even from America? the way you spell makes me think your not. How can an outsider make assumptions on American soil and streets. LoL. Get off the Italians Dicks. They don't run shit outside of New York. LoL. Informants and the American Government have dismantled Costra Nostra. Even the Philly Mafia had to partner up with the Black Mafia to run the drug game in Philly. There sure wasn't no extortion going on dick head.
@michaelcollinslegend Dude you are silly as hell! This non fictional meeting amongst gangsters was strictly business. If the greeks didn't have a the connections to dope prop joe wouldn't give two shit about a raggedy camaro. This white boy had to reach out to another ethnicity (russian) to smooth that shit over. This russian gangster had the up most respect for prop joe and it shows in this clip. They were business partners and prop joe understood that. It was merely a favor! get over yourself
@michaelcollinslegend so we have drug deaers that was makin more than that ever heard frank lucas tookie williams the real avon barksdale shit even my uncle known for makin millions in pittsburgh and for every 50 white people 1 of ya is really bout it in 50 black people 40 of us hard or at least harder than some white bitch
@SLJJERK22 at the hight of frank lucas career he was worth $52 million rick ross made $600 million and avon barksdale is worth fuck all no nigger ever made over a $1billion christy 'dapper don' kinahan the leader of the irish mafia is worth billions of euro the Gomorrah (the mafia in italy) make billions every year from drug trafficking so dose the russian mafia so dose the italian mafia in america so what you saying out of every 50 italian mafioso or eastern european gangs only 1 will kill you?
The Greeks are the reason i'll never get into the drug game. I'll spend all that time selling them and possibly getting killed or arrested; while someone behind the scenes is making the real money.
The Greeks were the kings of the Wire. Avon, Stringer, Joe, Marlo, Slim, all had to bow down to the Greeks in the end. That was why Marlo (mental issues and all aside) could never truly "wear the crown", because the Greek always has it...and the king, stay the king.
Season 2 sucked balls but I like the Greek characters and Sergei. I'd have to say my favorite part of season 2 was when the elder sabotka was murdered. He and his problems caused a whole season of boredom
what prop joe said about "living life with some burdensome niggas" was made even more significant by the fact that he died because of his nephew's betrayal..
the wire rewarded its viewers for paying attention and remembering the smallest of details...
people didn't care for season 2 as much but I felt it was probably the most significant in the show... The Greeks are drug kingpins of the world. Not many have that much power
@KevinOrrell Season 2 just builds upon the fact that the drug business is like any other business in corporate america. The rich get richer and the poor stay poor. Only the guys at the top of the chain are making real bank from the game. 90% of everybody else in the game (especially at the street level) are just pawns doing the dirty work and being used by the bosses. Some of them will rise up through the ranks but majority will still remain poor or dead or in prison.
@bricksalegend@morgantown1 Nah that ain't Ziggy's coat, Ziggy's coat was a longer one. He didnt want the coat. To quote cheese: '' Even a black man can't style that ''.
oh shit! The russian standing beside Nick at the end of the video is a Wreslter in WWE Raw's brand! i cant think of the name, but he is tag teamed with some guy with a unibrow!
I love watching this scene...because you can tell Nick is hesitant to ask Vondas to get involved, like he's getting involved in a way he never has before.
@OlderG0ds What did several hundred thousand Russian military personal do against the basically prehistoric Afghanistan forces? THEY GOT THEIR ASSES KICKED. I don't live in a ghetto LOL you simple dog but I know damn well some white guy,without a badge and gun to hide behind or some dumb caveman Russian could never walk into any real Black ghetto AT NIGHT and flash a gun in a drug dealer's face. Cops are getting shot at you dog, how the fuck would some animal Russian be allowed to survive? Fool!
ANCIENTMYS 2 days ago
LOL...I'm livin' life wit some burdensome niggas" LOL LOL. Funny as hell. "Cedaverous mothahfuckas" LOL. Even funnier. I love Prop Joe. He and Omar are my favorite characters.
HEAT1996 3 days ago
Pure and total bullshit scene with Sergei pulling a gun on Cheese. Let two Russians go into ANY BLACK GHETTO neighborhood in America,at night and try that bullshit. LMAO. They would be two dead motherfuckers.
ANCIENTMYS 4 days ago
@ANCIENTMYS Pure bullshit comment. No ghetto people can fuck with Russian mob.
OlderG0ds 3 days ago
@OlderG0ds Simple dog! The only mob to ever fuck with Black people in the ghetto were cops. Send those hairy back, Russian savages into any hood in America and they will be hung UPSIDE DOWN with their throats slit like pigs. Some of you white people are so pathetic. Do you really want to brag about who the toughest criminals are? Anything to compete with Black people huh? Sad! Come back to reality and subdue your ego. No white man without a badge could pull that shit off in any Black ghetto.
ANCIENTMYS 3 days ago
@ANCIENTMYS Seems like you're the one bragging about your shitty ghettos lol. I don't care what you say 3 Russian mobsters with uzi's in the ghetto ain't going to be fucked with. Black gangs are like little babies playing in the street compared to white gangs like Russian mob. It's funny because its your ego is the one being hurt.
OlderG0ds 3 days ago
OMAR Y U HAVE TO DIE :'(
yourayseven 5 days ago
"You want, we kill him"
union410 1 week ago
@union410 You know what's funny is that Nick is the one who could have Cheese being a "cadaverous motherfucker" but since he's a decent guy who knew Ziggy fucked it up he wanted to get diplomatic with it. Only to have Prop Joe say he would be a dead man if he didn't know Sergei.
Lots of ironies in this show.
OlderG0ds 1 week ago
@OlderG0ds Yeah but that's when they didn't know Cheese was connected to Prop Joe. Man I love this fucking show.
union410 3 days ago
Sergei my nigga
MideonGodwinn 1 week ago
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@DocSkribblez: Don't forget 1) that "WMD", 2) the proper way to say "two" (and anything that sounds like it), 3) hopper and 4) re-up
LOL
knight7se7en 1 week ago
@knight7se7en In that case, we can also add 1. "that Pandemic!" 2. Bahmur 3. Contrapment 4. Eyeball witness 5. Good po-lice 6. The faucet/the goose/the golden eggs
lol!
DocSkribblez 1 week ago
That dude in the beginning always reminded me of De Niros brother or something......
fritzpierre92 1 week ago
best line in the whole series...cadaverous motherfuckers!!
will20127 2 weeks ago
"you're loosing weight" "sheeeeit..."
Spadesz93 3 weeks ago
"Dis the man with the raggedy ass comero!" hahaha XD
kandinskyforfootball 3 weeks ago
Anyone know what the song is @2.13. Somethiing something...game is over...Bmore Town...or whatever is all I could make out...unfortunately no enough for a google search :|
sidewalkturtle113 1 month ago
cadaverous motherfuckers...
Putaspellonyou 1 month ago
I liked the show of force the Greeks put on those street hoodlums. This is reality they don't stand a chance against organizations like the Russian Mafia, Greek, Albanian, etc.
Not to make it all about racial but generally speaking white gangs are what the black gangs wish they could be, not just controlling a few street corners with kids but a worldwide criminal enterprise full of intelligent men.
OlderG0ds 1 month ago
@OlderG0ds wow you devils actually cant help lording your sense of superiority over other races can you?
D39MUSIC 1 month ago
@D39MUSIC who devils? Are you assuming I am white? The only racist person I see here is you. Grow up and face reality.
OlderG0ds 1 month ago
@OlderG0ds While you do make a valid point I must point out that some of the most dangerous, organized crime originates from areas with a predominantly black background (think Mugabe). I think it's has more to do with two sides of the same trade. The Greeks supply the product wholesale and the blacks distribute the product among the community. The Greeks don't have the same power of distribution as the locals and they would be fighting over territory with the very same organizations.
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No. The blacks, for whatever reason, don't have a sense of community. You see it on the show and in real life. Stringer was the one who had it down right and tried to make everything about business while Avon was trapped in some old playground altercation in his mind. Avon even comes to his senses after Stringer is killed. To those hoods, it's all about the money. When you look at the Italians or the Greeks, they way they operate is structured around their values and traditions.
FUCKxUxNxURxMOTHERx2 2 weeks ago
@OlderG0ds Black Panthers on the street were not a criminal group. They became criminal in the prison system with the BGF.
LOU1982 3 weeks ago
@OlderG0ds In the 70's one of the richest criminals in the world was Ike Atkinson A.K.A Sergeant Smack. He operated internationally within the U.S. government.
LOU1982 3 weeks ago
@OlderG0ds it is so funny you can watch a fictional show like the Wire and then come up with you lame two cents on who would control the streets in the real world. Your silly racial assertions. In the real world you fuck up drug package your dead. Plain and simple. Greeks are not dummies and they know a war with proposition Joe is bad for business and is generally unhealthy. Sergei saved that boy's life.
kilahchris 3 weeks ago
@kilahchris Wow, "kilah," we're all real impressed by your 'hood knowledge and improper use of the word "your."
SterilizeThePopulace 3 weeks ago 4
@SterilizeThePopulace Why Thank you!!!
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I ain't white. But when I look at all these mother fuckers killing each other off in droves, I'd have to agree. Shit, the Italian mob could pay half of the blacks to kill the other half.
FUCKxUxNxURxMOTHERx2 2 weeks ago
Sergei was friendly toward Joe, but he hated Marlo and only cooperated under pressure. Interesting point regarding the business/gangster idea. "Why always Boris" was also a classic line.
ravenouscolonelhart 1 month ago
nothing underscores your point like shoving your gat into someones face i guess
immortalass 1 month ago
part 3: what is even funnier with the racial dynamic is how nick sides with the greeks. he sees them as allies from the "white like me" standpoint (hence the "you don't look Israeli" comments). what he failed to realize until later is that the greeks are from prop joes world and are they are allies financially rather than racially. hence the shock and anger later when he finds out they were behind his fathers death. great show.
dewfish 1 month ago
@dewfish This wasn't racial. The Greeks had to keep Frank happy by any means necessary because their product doesn't get into the country without him completely in their pocket. In this instance, that meant helping bail Ziggy out. Sergei and Joe explain it all at 4:22.
DankstaTV 1 month ago
@DankstaTV It was racial to Nick and many others like him. Like i said, the greeks were more about money than anything, but people like Nick and ziggy, and even Frank to some extent saw everything through a racial lens. I think they were truly blind to what was going on until it was too late.
dewfish 1 month ago
part2: and that is what makes it interesting. you can tell nick is uncomfortable with the whole situation because normally, in mainstream society, he and ziggy as white men would have the advantages over the "drug dealing niggers". nick realizes he is out of his element and tries to show out with his attitude. prop joe merely reminds him that nick has no real power in their world. excellent writing and acting all around.
dewfish 1 month ago
scenes like this make me appreciate season 2. the wire is chock full of parallels between the drug trade and how it fits with mainstream society. honestly, nick is to ziggy what prop joe is to cheese. cheese and ziggy are the fuckups while prop and nick clean up their mess. but since nick and ziggy are in the drug world, they have a lower standing than prop and cheese. cheese has power over ziggy, prop has power over nick. the greeks literally were the only thing keeping them from death.
dewfish 1 month ago
Anyone knows the name of the song at 2:13 please ?
Conservator75 2 months ago 2
Did anyone else notices the strategic position they took when they meet up with cheese.
Hitman666 2 months ago
@Hitman666 Yeah I did notice that. That one guy was up on the steps lol.
jeezy13 2 months ago
@Hitman666
it's made funnier by the fact he works his way up there without them even noticing. real SAS/Delta/Spetsnaz shit goin on there...corner drug dealers wouldn't stand a chance!
sidewalkturtle113 1 month ago
@sidewalkturtle113 haaa tru
there probably ex army.
Hitman666 1 month ago
THAT IS A WHITE BOY FOR U THEY PUT OTHERS UP TO DO THE DIRT AND LAUGH
THE BUSH FAMILY FUCK UP THE USA PUT MILLIONS OUT OF WORK, BLACK , POOR WHITES, THE RICH
smithyboo70 2 months ago
@smithyboo70 Your comment is idiotic!!!
anthonythemoniker 2 months ago
judging such a hugely varied group of people as white people because george bush is one of them is like me judging all black people on someone like mugabe.
ImEuanAndIGotsSkeelz 2 months ago
@smithyboo70 Yea ok buddy Bush does not equal all whites. And by the way, Obamas doing nothing but adding to Bushs mess and fucking the country up even more, quit talking, you just make your self sound even more stupid then you already are.
Shellcase1 2 months ago
Cadaverous motherfuckers.
pt2ph8 3 months ago 10
prop joe's fuckin quality!
reaney1977 4 months ago
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@Southup if the russian or greeks wanted to they would massacre your whole hood most of the russian mafia in real life are ex war criminals if they wanted to they could easily blow up your hood with a little bomb or get in abandon buildings and sniper all the people everybody with half a brain nows not to fuck with russian or any other eastern europe gangs
michaelcollinslegend 4 months ago
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michaelcollinslegend 4 months ago
itsfunny black people selling drugs on the corner they think there gangsters but lets be honest white people are the oldest smartest and richest gangsters on this planet even marlo is supplied by the greek who is white even in real life the russian mafia and italian mafia ect supply all these black kids even the biker gangs and aryan brotherhood smuggle tons of herione back from mexico and guess who they supply the small time black drug dealer on the corner the supplier is the real gangster.
michaelcollinslegend 4 months ago
@michaelcollinslegend yea right if black drug dealers and white drug dealers went to war blacks would win hands down
SLJJERK22 3 months ago
@SLJJERK22 hahaha wtf are you dumb the whole world nows white gangs would DESTROY ANY BLACK GANGs thats the whole point of this video the russians and israeli gangs and other eastern european gangs and the italian mafia ect would kill any black gangs. white gangs are selling drugs before black people even now what drugs were black gangs are to easily got there always standing on the conor were white gangs are more low profile and harder to find so in a war whites would win hands down
michaelcollinslegend 3 months ago
@michaelcollinslegend white people dont got the heart black niggas kill just for respect or in my situation i had to shoot any random person so they would trust me
SLJJERK22 3 months ago
@SLJJERK22 thats because ppl like the russian mafia the mafia in italy the italian/american maifa irish mafia israeli gangs turk gangs ect are crime organization that keep it low profile and make billions from drug trafficking and supply black gangs like the greek in the wire but white street gangs like aryan brotherhood nazi lowriders russian neo nazi hells angles outlaw mc ect are as rutless as any black or mexican street gang
michaelcollinslegend 3 months ago
@michaelcollinslegend So with all that ignorant shit you are saying, Do you know anything about the streets of Chicago, Philly,Detroit, or Los Angeles? None of those white gangs have influence over any Black Mob/gang period. Stop talking out of emotions and ignorance. Your ego proceeds you and makes you look silly.
LOU1982 3 months ago
@LOU1982 i am sure Vagos mc Bandidos mc Warlocks mc Sons of Silence mc Outlaws mc Pagans mc Mongols mc and Hell’s Angels all have chapters in those states you named like they do in every state in america they even have chapters in australia denmark russia ukraine england ect and there is a big aryan brotherhood and nazi lowrider population in los angels so shut the fuck up and theres eastern european gangs all over america unlike dumb black gangs dont stand on the conor wearing there gang color
michaelcollinslegend 3 months ago
@michaelcollinslegend Being that they may have chapters in those cities, name me one story where they have went to war and taken over territories occupied by Black Mobs/gangs. Lol. Never. For sure the Biker gangs don't have the numbers to go up against the Peoples and the Folks in Chicago, Detroit forget about it!, and Los Angeles all the biker gangs are out in the desert! I really don't give a shit about a gang in eastern Europe that has nothing to do with major American cities. no emotions!
LOU1982 3 months ago
@LOU1982 For sure the Biker gangs don't have the numbers to go up against the Peoples and the Folks in Chicago' every biker mc in the states have thousand of members and every mc has thousand of members in other chapters in countrys all over the world there international they would outnumber black gangs in Chicago fact and dont the biker gangs and aryan brotherhood and nazi lowriders ect control the crank trade with a iron fist in states were there black gangs why dont they fight them for it
michaelcollinslegend 3 months ago
@michaelcollinslegend Dude let me end this with a simply explanation, its called geographical differences. Black gangsters revolves around the inner cities while Biker gangs operate in rural areas. America is not the only place in the world with people of color. You have Nigerian Organized crime, criminal groups in the Caribbean (mind you the Italians did not want war with the Jamaicans during the crack era) and many other so called Black criminal groups. The prison system is filled with
LOU1982 3 months ago
@LOU1982 the ira would kill any gang black white or brown if the brits couldn't beat them no gang would there the oldest and most feared gorilla army on this planted even mi5 said it they even train colobian drug cartels type this into yt Colombian drug lords - trained by the IRA and watch this doc Gaddafi & The IRA Part One. and white gangs dont just operate in rual parts theres ghettos in italy and russia that are amillion times more dangerous then america watch the film the gomorrah 2008
michaelcollinslegend 3 months ago
@michaelcollinslegend Dude you are talking about a para military group vs a gang. You are all over the place! I am only talking about America, I don't care about the IRA or none of that other shit. Me personally If I were a betting man, I would bet that any Mexican cartel or the Mexican Mafia would sweep and mop the IRA all over the place. I guarantee you that not fucking with Los Zetas or any other narco-terroist group in Mexico. Those guys control Billions of dollars and are Special forces.
LOU1982 3 months ago
@LOU1982 no cartel gang or terrorist group would mop the floors with the ira the ira are the oldest and best freedom fighters and gorilla army on these planet and the whole world now it even mi5 and mi6 said it you need to do ALOT MORE RESEARCH ON THE IRA BECAUSE YOUR MAKEING A FOOL OUT YOURSELF most terrorist groups are trained by the ira to make bombs and fight armys like they did in northern ireland even clombian rebels in d jungle are trained by the ira and in return they get coke google it
michaelcollinslegend 3 months ago
@michaelcollinslegend i can tell straight away you are one of these guys who deep down feels inadequate so you try and associate yourself with groups of people more notable and interesting than yourself so other people will respect you, even though you only have an insignificant link with the groups in question.
ImEuanAndIGotsSkeelz 2 months ago
@michaelcollinslegend Black Criminal groups. Like BGF, Kumi Nation, Black Muslims and etc. You have no clue in what your talking about! The Gangsters in the Nation of Islam alone are widely respected in the criminal underworld in America, Highly disciplined and organized and low key. In the criminal underworld everyone needs each other. The product and the service needs to get to certain territories. Russians don't give a fuck who they make money with, as long as you have the money they will
LOU1982 3 months ago
@LOU1982 To my knowledge 'white' gangs around the world like the US and Italian/Sicilian Mafia, Russian, Ukrainian, Albanian etc may be richer than 'black' gangs in SOME areas, but then I agree with you that things get confusing with the definition of gang with different groups. NOI and Panthers arguably organised grime and Lucas and Barnes held a lot of weight back in the day, even now I hear there's significant West Indian and Dominican (if you count that as 'Black' not Hispanic)
BBoyEdgy 3 weeks ago
@BBoyEdgy In African countries there's definitely organised criminal activity with issues like conflict diamonds in Sierra Leone etc and the Arms Trade where a myriad of other social and political issues I guess blur the criteria and definitions of 'gangs' I suppose.
BBoyEdgy 3 weeks ago
@michaelcollinslegend They will do business with you, At least here in America. This video displays this. So you coming from another country calling people dumb and having no true knowledge of what your speaking of is ridiculous. Check your ego at the door and go learn history that is outside of white supremacy which is a sick condition in itself. Oh and the meth trade is a white mans drug here in this country. Black gangs really have no interest in that shit. That's like saying why don't
LOU1982 3 months ago
@LOU1982 and irish and blacks were always the most discriminated against when oliver cromwell exiled thousands of irish people as slaves to the caribbean they arrived the same time as african slaves and they were treated the same irish people were actually the frist people to be sold as slaves when king james the ll invaded ireland and killed 500,000 people for being catholic he sold 30000 irish political prisoners to the new world google it
michaelcollinslegend 3 months ago
@LOU1982 you should read the book how the irish became white by noel ignatiev
michaelcollinslegend 3 months ago
@michaelcollinslegend White gangs for Black gangs for the crack trade. It will not happen. White crack heads and heroin addicts go to the inner city to get their fix and then they go back to wherever they go to and get high. Speaking of Italians they don't consider themselves American white, they differentiate themselves from anglo saxons. It wasn't until the early 20th century that they were actually called white. They were spit on and called dirty just like all the other immigrants.
LOU1982 3 months ago
@LOU1982 It wasn't until the early 20th century that they were actually called white. They were spit on and called dirty just like all the other immigrants. yea just like the irish when they were slaves they weren't considered white they were called negros turn inside out and african were called smoked irish google it i the rish were discriminate against for years 'no irish need apply' even up until the 70s in england there sings everywere in england saying 'no irish no blacks no dogs'
michaelcollinslegend 3 months ago
@michaelcollinslegend Its funny that you come on videos based of a tv show and show your silly ass emotions. Like get over it! White people are not superior to anyone. We all have the same issues on this planet. Don't try to debate me unless you really know what the fuck your talking about because I will and I repeat I will make you look silly!
LOU1982 3 months ago
@michaelcollinslegend Stop looking at gangland, that shit is very inaccurate. How about this, for the past ten years a Black man has had the final word over the biggest military in the world. Colin Powell and Barack Obama. Now that's real power. Now what leader or gang is over the US Government? Don't worry I will wait.
LOU1982 3 months ago
@LOU1982 theres italian mafia familys in every state in america but because of all the heat they get there extremely low profile but if a black gang started any shit with them they would whipe them out they have connections to the the gomorrah (the mafia in italy) how make billions of euro each year and are extremely powerful and if the mafia in america wanted to they could get afew trained assistants over from italy to whipe out a few dumb black people on the conor who think there scarface
michaelcollinslegend 3 months ago
@michaelcollinslegend Todays Italian Costra Nostra is a bunch of rats. LoL. They are no where near the Costra Nostra of the past. In New York and Chicago the Italians no longer run the prisons or the jails, its the Black Mobs/ gangs and Latinos run that shit now. The Italians no longer have the numbers they once had. All that Italian domination shit stopped with Nicky Barnes, Frank Mathews, Larry Hoover and Jeff Fort and the guys from phily. These men controlled their own shit without Italians.
LOU1982 3 months ago
@LOU1982 the aryan brotherhood and the mexican mafia control the prisons in america there partners the black are on there own and in EUROPE the irish mafia the gomorrah the russian mafia eastern europe gangs ect control europe they make billions of euro each year and if a black person in ireland italy russia turkey bulgaria ect want to sell drugs the mafias gangs get a BIG PERCENTAGE or there murdered fact
michaelcollinslegend 3 months ago
@michaelcollinslegend Are you even from America? the way you spell makes me think your not. How can an outsider make assumptions on American soil and streets. LoL. Get off the Italians Dicks. They don't run shit outside of New York. LoL. Informants and the American Government have dismantled Costra Nostra. Even the Philly Mafia had to partner up with the Black Mafia to run the drug game in Philly. There sure wasn't no extortion going on dick head.
LOU1982 3 months ago
@michaelcollinslegend Dude you are silly as hell! This non fictional meeting amongst gangsters was strictly business. If the greeks didn't have a the connections to dope prop joe wouldn't give two shit about a raggedy camaro. This white boy had to reach out to another ethnicity (russian) to smooth that shit over. This russian gangster had the up most respect for prop joe and it shows in this clip. They were business partners and prop joe understood that. It was merely a favor! get over yourself
LOU1982 3 months ago
@SLJJERK22 umadbro?
sidewalkturtle113 1 month ago
@michaelcollinslegend so we have drug deaers that was makin more than that ever heard frank lucas tookie williams the real avon barksdale shit even my uncle known for makin millions in pittsburgh and for every 50 white people 1 of ya is really bout it in 50 black people 40 of us hard or at least harder than some white bitch
SLJJERK22 3 months ago
@SLJJERK22 at the hight of frank lucas career he was worth $52 million rick ross made $600 million and avon barksdale is worth fuck all no nigger ever made over a $1billion christy 'dapper don' kinahan the leader of the irish mafia is worth billions of euro the Gomorrah (the mafia in italy) make billions every year from drug trafficking so dose the russian mafia so dose the italian mafia in america so what you saying out of every 50 italian mafioso or eastern european gangs only 1 will kill you?
michaelcollinslegend 3 months ago
@michaelcollinslegend Reading this conversation/debate, all I can think of is NO!!
sidewalkturtle113 1 month ago
sergei was the hardest muthafucka on the wire ....period!!
weeleon81 4 months ago
The Greeks are the reason i'll never get into the drug game. I'll spend all that time selling them and possibly getting killed or arrested; while someone behind the scenes is making the real money.
Rayman77792 4 months ago
Fool, if it wasn't for Sergei here, you and your cuzin both would be cadaverous, mother..." Now that's a quote...
mikemillion2000 5 months ago
3:21 Vladimer Kozlov from the WWE???? O_o
bigblackracoon 5 months ago
@bigblackracoon yup, i noticed that too. and i looked it up. he was also in "25th hour."
efanamethesequel 5 months ago
1:27
"You want, we kill him" *sip*
fixajob1 6 months ago 2
The Greeks were the kings of the Wire. Avon, Stringer, Joe, Marlo, Slim, all had to bow down to the Greeks in the end. That was why Marlo (mental issues and all aside) could never truly "wear the crown", because the Greek always has it...and the king, stay the king.
ThePrinceII 6 months ago 3
Season 2 sucked balls but I like the Greek characters and Sergei. I'd have to say my favorite part of season 2 was when the elder sabotka was murdered. He and his problems caused a whole season of boredom
Motown49001 6 months ago
@Motown49001 the hell is wrong with season 2? i thought it was brilliant just like every other season
fixajob1 6 months ago
Thanks to this seen I can now use the word cadaverous in a sentence.
Dirtbag359 6 months ago
"In this country, supermarkets are cathedrals. I worry for you, buddy."
This show's small talk has classic lines.
catch89 7 months ago 15
I wonder if Prop Joe is gonna try to double cross some cadaverous motherfuckers
veldross1 7 months ago
what prop joe said about "living life with some burdensome niggas" was made even more significant by the fact that he died because of his nephew's betrayal..
the wire rewarded its viewers for paying attention and remembering the smallest of details...
insuchaway 8 months ago 2
@insuchaway Nice observation.
ThePrinceII 6 months ago
people didn't care for season 2 as much but I felt it was probably the most significant in the show... The Greeks are drug kingpins of the world. Not many have that much power
KevinOrrell 8 months ago 6
@KevinOrrell I think season 2 was one of the best seasons.
brian15243 5 months ago
@KevinOrrell Season 2 just builds upon the fact that the drug business is like any other business in corporate america. The rich get richer and the poor stay poor. Only the guys at the top of the chain are making real bank from the game. 90% of everybody else in the game (especially at the street level) are just pawns doing the dirty work and being used by the bosses. Some of them will rise up through the ranks but majority will still remain poor or dead or in prison.
Mutumbo000 2 months ago
Nick was always a smart ass guy that's why I liked him..but ziggy deserved everything that he got.
TheBlackboyrichboy 8 months ago
VENETIAN SNARES!!!!!
TheLlamaEater 8 months ago
lol Vladimir Kozlov @3:20
BlissfulPsychosis 9 months ago 2
israeli? tough motherfuckers!
dontleademsomuch 9 months ago
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kandinskyforfootball 9 months ago
One person is a burdensome nigga..
jaredowty 10 months ago
3:50 prop joe (rip) is temporarily possessed by the spirit ofclay davis
bricksalegend 10 months ago 11
@bricksalegend ha nice call, I was just about to point that out
morgantown1 9 months ago
@bricksalegend @morgantown1 Nah that ain't Ziggy's coat, Ziggy's coat was a longer one. He didnt want the coat. To quote cheese: '' Even a black man can't style that ''.
LRTWR 8 months ago
Get the re-mix album featuring Bunk with the raw cuts:
"Gimme the pussy, now your gonna take my shoes"
"Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, motherfucker, ... fuck me"
WileeC 11 months ago
@WileeC Can't forget the Bunk street single "You happy now bitch."
arshort2 9 months ago 2
damn prop joe's using big words and shit.
imbobsaget 11 months ago
Was that Cheese that Sergei was pointing the Mac-10 at?
1XMarksSpot 1 year ago
@1XMarksSpot yeah, he had ziggys coat on
bricksalegend 10 months ago
"for real, I'm living life with some burdensome niggers"
gauchebag 1 year ago
Ziggy's always fuckin up the package...
Greeneyez2475 1 year ago
everytime I see a youtube clip of the wire, I want to watch it again... so gooooooooood.. on sooooo many levels.
spiltbluhd 1 year ago
you figure sergei already knows cheese after knowing prop joe so well. the whole thing was an act?
spiltbluhd 1 year ago
oh shit! The russian standing beside Nick at the end of the video is a Wreslter in WWE Raw's brand! i cant think of the name, but he is tag teamed with some guy with a unibrow!
NewPricksOnTheBlock 1 year ago
@NewPricksOnTheBlock Vladimir Koslov
Antrizzle2009 11 months ago
Ok you made me efing laugh, Lumpy.
thecalistallion 1 year ago
Damn! That is Vladmir Koslov there! - the wwe wrestler (in the shop with sergei)
adErsante 1 year ago
@LumpyTheCook and lets not forget the hit track "sheiiiiit!!!!" feat. Clay davis
ReezyC 1 year ago
joe ended up cadaverous himself.
kaviraj 1 year ago 6
Haha I got nephews and in-laws fuckin my shit up all the time. Aint like I can pop a cap in their behinds and not hear about it at Thanksgiving time
mkvl1490 1 year ago 6
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FallenFromGrace90 1 year ago
@unluckymonkeyboy The Greek was actually Israeli and Sergei was Ukrainian I am sorry for crushing your dreams.
DrunkCobra 1 year ago
Loved this scene. Really showed how large global entities really control the drug trade. Street gangs just sell the shit.
seheart 1 year ago 6
Awesome scene.
And by the way, "Proposition Joe and The Burdensome Niggas" would make a perfect name for a band.
LumpyTheCook 1 year ago 94
@LumpyTheCook ...LOL!...Great name for a rhythm and blues band!
WiseGuy5674 1 year ago
@WiseGuy5674 With such hit songs as:
"Sergei, My Nigga"
"You fuck with me, I'll kill your whole family"
"Keep it dead fucking boring"
"Look the part, be the part, motherfucker"
"Nephews & Inlaws"
LumpyTheCook 1 year ago 61
@LumpyTheCook ...Holy shit!...We have something here!..Fuckin' brilliant!
WiseGuy5674 1 year ago
@LumpyTheCook ...Your comment had to be the single most funniest comment I have ever read!...Well done my friend!
WiseGuy5674 1 year ago
@LumpyTheCook And of course "Buy 4 a dolla, Sell 4 two"
bigedjr1780 1 year ago 4
@LumpyTheCook Don't forget
"Cadaverous Motherfuckers"
"Buy for 1 sell for 2"
arshort2 1 year ago
@arshort2 Of course! And the rarities and B-sides like:
"Got a proposition here"
"Putting out piss, calling it shit"
LumpyTheCook 1 year ago
@LumpyTheCook Vol. 2
"U got the towers" (I got what go in em)
"Civilizing this motherfucker ain't gonna be easy"
arshort2 1 year ago
@LumpyTheCook
"Carry it like a Republican"
arshort2 1 year ago
@LumpyTheCook And the absolute classic ''That Nigga Got More Bodies Than A Chinese cemetary.''
patrikgeorg7 6 months ago
@LumpyTheCook hahaha newphews and inlaws
china4151986 5 months ago
@LumpyTheCook And their fanbase's all time favorite, "Cadaverous Motherfuckers"
Jadervason 5 months ago
@LumpyTheCook lol
njirem 8 months ago
Cheese is always getting a gun pulled on him by some straight up gangsters...Sergei, Mouzone, Omar, Slim (and you all know how that ended), lol
aharris82 1 year ago 5
I love the look on Vondas' face when Nick says "it was $2700." He rolls his eyes for having a discussion over a paltry sum of money.
ZidaneBaggio99 1 year ago
sergei is the white weebay. that dudedidnt give a fuck!
slimithy12 1 year ago
"got mutherfucking nephews and inlaws, fucking all my shit up all the time, and it aint like i can pop a cap in they ass"
joe you should have, as cheese popped a cap in his ass
hukiara 1 year ago 3
nick is so hilariously out of his depth here and he doesnt even realize until the end.
immortalass 1 year ago
I love watching this scene...because you can tell Nick is hesitant to ask Vondas to get involved, like he's getting involved in a way he never has before.
mywaydimag 1 year ago
@unluckymonkeyboy
only as it turned out the guys werent really greek
immortalass 1 year ago
I'm livin life with some burdensome niggas... so wtf?
HAHAHHAHA love Prop Joe
Lhilee 1 year ago
Jo is an articulate motha fucka....
tribe1 1 year ago
I'm livin life with some burdensome niggas....
Trollmaster21 1 year ago
Proposition Joe was a fuckin' legend. I was sad to see him killed in season 5.
lildwayne21 1 year ago
"Ay, you talked to the man about that other thing right? Cause I can get behind that business in a big way."
Prop Joe foreshadows the whole co-op and becoming the link to the Greek's great product.
vexxatuvip 1 year ago 3
always liked sergei, good soldier, not yappy just solid n dependable
ImEuanAndIGotsSkeelz 1 year ago
Sergei is so awesome. "Did he have hands? Did he have a face? Yes? Then it wasn't us"
montecarlomayne 1 year ago
god I was so pissed when Prop Joe got killed in S5....
XChupacabras 1 year ago
@unluckymonkeyboy is that really all you got out of it
gauchebag 1 year ago
wish it had shown more of the jew henchman
dontleademsomuch 1 year ago
This is the best scene ever
Tauro010 1 year ago
Nicko
lildwayne21 2 years ago
cadaverous
FuuKwon 2 years ago
every prop joe line in this scene is epic
MentalSentinel 2 years ago
Too bad he didn't have cheese killed.
Midan 2 years ago
And go to war wit the whole east b more? I think not, they made smart move
papuah 2 years ago
Yeah I would've had him killed. With cheese out of the game, alot of good players would have lived in the series.
SpaceGhost2047 2 years ago