Battlefield 3 - Shibby's BF3 Rush Gamemode Rant - Needs a balancing update, "broken" maps!

[vivekrughani13]

But Shibby....

[Cunelito]

nope, cause the game won't work

btw shibby2142, way to promote a broken game, really, we need more ppl like you.....

[HansensUniverse]

it still is like this PC and console BF3 aint fun playing at all it's boring and depressing allot when i turn on BC2 all fun starts am a BF fan and Cod fan BF3 is not working for me :(

[spencegame]

i just wish they would split recon into two classes one for sniping and one for recon

[utubeaccount00]

also this map is balanced, but you need a good littlebird pilot which can easily neutralize the aa tank and keep the enemy team disorganized giving the attackers time to arm

[utubeaccount00]

BF on consoles with designed for Rush, with 24 player counts and whatnot, conquest is fucking terrible and boring as shit

[gingie78]

In on PS3 and have unlocked the soflam. Ah well just 10 points per lock since no one uses guided middles/shells!

[aceblazer25]

This problem is even worse on the console.

[XxwolfyxoXo]

ikr i cant even play dis map when i c its next and where on rush i just quit

[lightspinif]

*okay

[lightspinif]

Rush on console is o

[ssdwellah]

The AA guy *IS* op but they are so rare, only one can sit in them, and people hoard them greedily so I can't even level mine up because they are always taken by someone else. They should have nerfed it, but put two seats somehow so I could at least level it up before the greedy bastards keep taking it for the whole level.

[techno769]

Two words, SOFLAM + JAVELIN. The laser designator will acquire that vehicle as a target from the boat, and engineers using the Javelin can take it out in a couple hits. Problem solved

[sqhschief]

@techno769 Four words, "teammates never use SOFLAM".

[CptMend0za]

There is only one way to break a contain like that on canals, set up a soflam on the end of the carrier - and the whole team uses javs to annihilate the vehicles. Only problem is that the AA tank respawns in like 30 seconds.

[kurtusky13]

"playing league" playing league... of LEGENDS?!?!?! D:

[bigbird063]

I hate when my teammates spawn camp. I don't have the attention span to stay in their spawn all game, so I go like 1 and 4 in conquest (Xbox)

[MrZacfisher]

i was an attacker in a game like that i took a boat a magically got around and had to walk forever to sneak up on them but once me and this one other guy flanked them it was ok...i had unlocked mortar yet or i would have

[nesportskid]

you make it sound like someone is forcing you to spawn camp and not have fun. you could always, you know, stop it and let them leave spawn

[nesportskid]

@tapirus1 true story. took tge words from me

[orcstolemysandwich]

yo shibby! why cant i join your platoon in BF3? really wanna play with you bro...

[AlyxVance14]

i only played rush in bc2 now i only play conquest in bf3 because rush in bf3 basicly sucks

[SnowtrooperX1]

I told EA and I got reset...

[ARYXANDRE]

This video should be seen by DICE. It shows at least 80% of the problems (mainly with OP and overall unbalance). The other 20% is lack of a thinking as a team.

[SaturnMemories]

BF3 Rush in general is broken. It's not just spawn camping. Attackers get forced down some pretty impossible bottlenecks on CQC maps. You also can't blow up an M-COM station with C4, tank shells, or RPGs like in BC2. IMO, the easiest fix would be to give attackers a slight numerical advantage if the terrain highly favors the defender.

[Niking317]

heres an easy solution people. dont be an asshole and spawn camp them...... or mkae it so that they cant get killed at their spawn or something

[SuperChickenWuss]

I think the whole rush game mode is broken

[ttttyyuuuiiiii]

@SuperChickenWuss Well I think your wrong!

[CentsTwo]

i'm trading in bf3 such a disappointment they can't patch broken maps on such a scale and the destruction is so limited, yes there is such imbalance well said Shibby i am still a fan ob the bf series but bf3 no it's just broken unless dice can somehow magically make new working maps and fix the game engine then no nomore bf3 for me

[btj89]

@CentsTwo wow, that's a rather illogical comment don't ya think? what on earth are you talking about? can't fix broken maps? are you high? if you are dumb enough to trade in a game before the first patch is even released then by all means go right ahead!!! i won't complain!

[DaDwagonHK]

ATTACKERS

Y U NO USE MORTAR

[TheBlayzinAsian420]

This game has 99 problems but a fix aint one.

[Yacatecuhtlie]

4:08 amen

[nottarokun]

one of my complaints is grand bazaar on conquest because once the alleyway is taken it turns into a human meat grinder in favor of the team that owns it maybe move the point or adjust it to make it harder to defend

[Chutneybhai]

my problem is when u get jets you get locked on non stop!

[CentsTwo]

@Chutneybhai yes i agree completely air power is really not fun in bf3 it's really underpowered

[Peggy9340]

I think im the only one laughing my FUCKING ASS off thinking of the total angry derp face the attackers must have.

[DKnightOdin]

They need to seriously drop the range on the AA gun's missiles cause as it sits, the AA gun has 3 ways to completely dominate the skies. Also the fucking AA gun can go toe-to-toe with an Amtrak that's built harder than a tank, the thing shits on other tanks and can take like 3 javelin missiles...wtf. If you have an AA gun, u can pretty much single-handedly dominate the skies over that base.

[DaDwagonHK]

@DKnightOdin but an Amtrak with a good gunner and driver is possibly the only thing that can take out the AA, or at least distract it enough so that engineers can put rockets into it.

Or you could always set up that trusty mortar.

[20SupaFly08]

Here's a tiny solution to this problem, make vehicles actually RUN OUT of ammo, where you need to head back to base to refill munitions.. like.. oh Idk.. like in real life, since its claimed to be a realistic game !!!

I actually do love to be on the oppressed side, just cuz I can have a chance to finesse my skills, and try to break through.. I get how irritating all this can be, but I also know, no wars are fair the slightest...

[TheOfficialOrangeMan]

aint had this problem on xbox, i know the play is better on PC but this looks like classic BF, sometimes people suck

[tapirus1]

One problem is that you will make yourself have a bad time during the match for the sake of winning. I doubt a single player in that game had fun. The AA gunner probably had fun the first time he did that killing spree, but it gets old and just boring fast.

All it takes is that you don't spawn camp them in the vehicles, and that game transforms into a normal, fun match.

"But if I don't do it, someone else will!!1" Yeah, that sentence sure validates any argument....

[Xelig00n]

Surprised there's no one like those defending spawncamping in tf2.

"Herp derp if you get spawncamped you're bad and deserve to not have fun". Those people.

[fyneEdits]

Im going to pick up Bf3 Limited Edition in a couple hours cant wait!! woot

[oomrp]

Dice has given us the tools we need to use them. Can you mortar from the boat to the docks?

[oomrp]

Tehran the capital of Iran!! You re college graduate come on. any way played rush for a few hours (PS3) yesterday. The maps on rush are pretty cool, dont think ive played enough to comment on the balance of them. I do think it the team responsibility let themselves be spawned camp. "better mechanics, Dice be smarter" more like better players, BF3 players play smarter. why didnt some savy players recognize what was going on and place some radio beacons down?

[Dr0gu3D0uc3]

just happened to me the other day as well... horrid as hell especially since some other maps are really awesome and gr8 fun...

[YODAgamer93]

They just need to make that AA gun stationary so it can't move. And make it one bomb site behind the first one.

[juicysteak117]

But Shibbeh, I had that (XBL) I was the attackers and my team sucked. I was a total ninja, went around and killed ALL of them. But, we were at 10 respawns no bases gone. -_- That is what happens when people don't coordinate.

[PERSONTHATISCLEVER]

a lot of games need scramble, i luv how tf2 did that

[yeoj115]

just play hardcore, makes life a lot easier without 3d spotting bullshit

[whitefro771]

i play on ps3, and i had this same thing happen to me, on this map. So no its not just on pc.

[dr4aces]

Really glad you posted this vid because it happened to us. Something needs to be fixed!

[29apa]

Fihgte the power

[alexevans0430]

Awesome

[sporemaster34]

Shibbeh, whuy you haz squad ammo spec when another squad member also has it.

[TheNaziTaco]

i told my mom and she says: i have no idea what this game is and dont really care

[mrsnugglykins]

Shibby, you revived me in the game following the one from this video. It was magical. Thank you sir.

[TheFurySin]

I like how Enigma died twice.

[mutantguy45]

This has never happened to me and i play a lot

[elsen4life]

I told my mother but nothing happened :D

[SharkHunterx]

FIX IT!!!!!!!!!!

[Alenthas]

shit maps

[1996killerman]

it has not happen to be on ps3 so i guess it mostly on PC not sure

[kjettpack]

absolutely. lets let dice know! lets get this fixed!

[4thSexPistol]

The same for conquest operation metro this is also a "braoken" map

[oomrp]

that sucks, PS3 player, havent played rush yet, looking forward to checking out.

[princeofGreece300]

Rush has ticket bleed

[mummoforce]

Haven't seen this on Rush. But on conquest this is just horrible.

[rde1596]

Hmm, I haven't tried camping in Canals. Love that map <3!

[ScaniaNicke]

they should move the carrier far away so the helis can sneak around,

[TBH717]

That "out" in the intro is fricking painful.

[Czech895]

never happened to me, 10 hours on pc

[GEORGEESAZ]

I know what you mean, running with buddies is so boring cos if one team is just slightly better than the other it turns into a massive rape, it would be nice to have some competition instead of baseraping.

[bobthefreakincop]

I don't see this problem at all on my Xbox 360 but shibbs I completely agree. If I paid $60 on origin just to get spawn camped I would get pretty pissed too. I think the pc version has more mobile AA cuz I have been playing bf3 for about 10 hours online and I have never even once seen a mobile AA on any xbox 360 match. Good luck with getting the maps fixed. I hope you succeed

[hopolooopiu]

Anecdotal evidence son.

[lillsowi]

New subscriber mofo!

[LazerFangs]

I know you're not supposed to bring up COD, but it ships with sixteen maps. Thats something I expect from DICE, not just nine maps.

[zirato5]

I don't know where the team that made the Bad Company 2 maps went...excluding Cold War and Heavy metal that is.

[saph2104]

Seine Crossing is really screwed up with that stupid LAV thing.

[Gimfigle496]

the only true map that is unbalanced is grand bazaar. you can get spawn-camped at the first set and you cant flank for the third set and lmg-ers bipod camp a hallway and engineers camp the tanks, shoving their repair tool up the driver's anus.

[NIK516]

It's so true shibby I love bf3 but they f#@$ed up some maps, when you get spawn trapped its balls, they need to change base locations and flag and mcom locations. You have a big platoon on batlelog do some thing.

[GamleErik100]

Lol. Dunno what people expect It's a DICE game. Bugs by the bucketload is the standard.

[robbedofcontention07]

happens a little on ps3, more everyone waiting for the vehicles to arrive then nailing them though. Not so much shooting right into their deployment.

[magicfreakme]

I tweeted Daniel Matros on twitter :)

[frebbdefrebb]

make it so that ppls can be airdropped randomly or a mass airdrop that noone knows about

[nabei15647]

Shibby can u go back to TF2 :( Really miss your videos of TF2 fun...

[ProffesorWilko]

@MrRianBrady

So you are saying that just because you're on PS3 this dosent happen? Im no fanboy but cmon... I personally never experienced this but im pretty sure this is a cmon thing, we have all been on the occasional imbalanced server.

[Mr5000k]

get rid of the AA and you stand a much bigger chance

[MrRianbrady]

this doesn't happen on ps3

[xremdog29x]

@MrRianbrady because every one is so retarded that no one knows what to do anyway, meaning anything can happen. no one can shoot straight, no one can use there brain. its ps3 i mean come on. im mean why would you say that, because ps3 is so amazing, well sorry but even the xbox version is better than ps3 version.

[failchook]

i agree like on some maps a huge carrier plane flies over the map and when the plain in getting ready you can choose ta spawn in the plain and the you para trooper style it up outa the plain

[McEthanBurger]

<3

[xSandRider96x]

In a way I believe you are right, but in this it looked like you guys were team stacking 5:38 -_-

[WhySoSeriously101]

I've never had this problem playing on console? you'll always get one or two people flanking that are able to arm the objectives whilst your whole team is pushed to far forward trying to get cheap kills, it probably only happens often on pc as you have more players per map!

[Na5k1]

@WhySoSeriously101 defending team isn't using tunguska correctly then

[WhySoSeriously101]

@Na5k1 yesterday i went 42 - 1 only using the Tunguska and they still managed to get to the third set of objectives, if the team is good enough no matter who is in the vehicles they should still be able to arm objectives! its because people are too scared to PTFO so they end up getting spawn trapped ٩(●̮̮̃•̃)

[Na5k1]

@WhySoSeriously101 well, in that case the enemy team was better. But in case u were equal teams or defending team just slightly better, the scenario from the video is just what happens

[DanielXDDP]

i agree

[BallisticResistance]

Bf3 should have a pre game lobby so that teams do no get unbalanced (randomize if unbalanced). Take out switch teams feature! Fix squads...

[wahidos24]

rush sucks ! BF=Conquest

[pcgamingforevah]

sad shit, bc2 player here that doesn't have bf3 yet, still while watching this I'm experiencing dejavu.

[DibbzTheLoner]

But Shibbeh, you should create a thread on the forums explaining exactly what the problems are and do a quick video announcement telling all your fans to click the link to the thread in the description and comment on it.

If you can get enough comments a DICE employee will likely read it.

[eldoradoodsdf]

it's not broken, if the attackers gettin spawn traped on this map they deserve it. the 2 scout choppers could have easily drop of 2 squads up on the left rooftop at the beginning. someone setting up a spawn beacon, use smoke on the m-com etc. a good communicating squad could have changed the outcome of this match.

[Goldenkidyash70]

i frigin watched it about 20 times :P that guy who dodged the water with that heli was me :P thanks shibbeh , btw what was patt screaming when i did that ? i am so pumped LOL !

[PaperyPaper]

I told FourZeroTwo. Hes gonna help out

[EverythingisFire]

Hmm..honestly, the teams I've been on have had no problem with this.

[lvu5]

This + Getting sniped as Recon by a dude with machine gun on the other side of the map + RPG explosion radius being small + OP guns + Floor swimming + Fucking flashlights + Shity maps = Common Dice I waited till October.

[berzerkercat]

If the attackers in the video had used mortars and a little smoke, they've coukd easily get to the objectives

[Higgs666]

The SOFLAM and Javelin deal with these problems really well, but there are WAY too many recon that refuse to use the SOFLAM. SOFLAM + top shot Jav = total and complete vehicle rape.

[vealy0409]

You are saying it isnt fun then let them get out of spawn so it is fun

[vealy0409]

If you don't like this then don't play like that.

[xxxisforporno]

@vealy0409 He is merely giving am example of that happening. If he stops playing like this, then whats to stop other players from doing it. He's trying to fix the problem at the source.

[Blynxz80]

Giving a Like because you have a VERY valid point. 

[PJDT13]

Hassent happened to me to this extent on ps3

[GoombaStompin]

@PJDT13 it has to me

[Djcol1990]

the spawns in this game are stupid as fuck

[bo7450]

*4:39

[bo7450]

Did anyone understand what he said at 3:39? Lol

[crazy0ace1]

i have had such a bad connection due to my internet and possibly bf3 (not confirmed) that i cant complete an entire match. it sucks

[GmodMan4Life]

But Shibbeh, Why don't they just leave if they are getting spawn camped? Isn't that kind of like surrendering in a way?

[LoganInHumboldt]

This was happening in the beta so much, just with prone snipers instead. The reason why I wont buy the game

[BxPxB]

ive seen some spawn camping on 360, but nothing this bad.

[xN21Rx]

yes this is only on pc. has never happened to me on ps3

[lgtcount]

Less vehicles on defense for rush could help. But this crap happened on BC2 all the time you know... just the nature of Rush imo. I agree some maps are fucked (like grand bazzar with its stupid choke points) and this one if the attacking team sucks... But even so this crap happened a lot in BC2.

Other stuff needs to be changed too (in-game squad management, audio spotting, black screen after spawn, recon weapon dmg, no c4 tossing wtf?, kit switching is 2slow, full map view sucks, etc)

[TheNeutual]

LMAO is this the "perfect COD killer"? lolololol!

[MrDeathfighter123]

what map is this?

[sKKKKKKKKK]

I disagree, respectfully of course. Seeing as how you are a great commentator i do agree with much of your work. But IMO, why not just not sit right there and do what your doing? why not give them a bit of a chance to push forward? Idk that's just how i see it. but yes Alot of things still need to be polished in bf3. Again really enjoy your channel. Thanks.

[800baileyc]

It is a problem but i don't see it enough to be a gamebreaking problem

[narutarded01]

Shibby, I just feel like saying this. My cat just died earlier today from being run over by a car. This amde me realize I should cherish my pets more and not just ignore them all the time. Take good care of Gilbert and Lucy and always remember to love them. Life's to short

[Jesus0Christ0is0gay0]

BF2 was always like that..don't understand why you're complaining.

[Torrmac]

liked + favorited as i agree completely

[DudeLikesRamen]

@MrHoneyBadgerMan WE ARE THE 99 PERCENT.

[1997kx]

watch sltpoison video

[ColonelScotch]

I really dislike Canals.

[MrHawk115]

what more likes than views

[TheHeroineaddict]

This guy is clearly a douch bag, his dialog screams "give me attention"... but anyways, please name me a game that is perfect upon release?

[iJoNtheP]

Havent seen this on console, but seems kinda gay so hope they fix it.

[cheesepwnage]

attacking easy.

[joshuaANDlauren]

then dont exploit the glitch idiot i have played over 100 games of rush and this has never happened

[joshuaANDlauren]

@joshuaANDlauren im on ps3 btw

[ortraptor1234]

@joshuaANDlauren i play on PS3, and I do this all the time with the AA Tank, I personaly think the AA Tank is OP, I got a hold of it on the Attackers side and just went to town on the Defenders. doing this with the AA Tank only works if the rest of the team spawn traps em, and with everyone still getting used to the game spawn trapping a team isnt all that hard :/

[cheesepwnage]

this doesn't happen to me.

[Moue666]

Operation Metro Conquest 64 Player. That map should just disappear.

[TheMschussler]

Add some sort of large gun or artillery to the attackers spawn.

[Underdog74745]

Meh thats dumb 

[IIEMProductionsII]

This is why I only play conquest.

[MrFlyingLamma]

What the hell would they do to fix this? If you nerf the AA gun it wont do anything.

[MrTitan0707]

My Type 88 doesn't have 200 rounds like it's supposed to, What the hell?!?!?

[Hockeyfan3444]

Is it more worse than Arica Harbor on conquest?

[TotalHavok456]

Try playing as US on Operation metro conquest. GG.

[Dvviggy]

yeah that has happened to me before thats why I don't play rush on certain maps

[MoCtheFirst]

totally agree with Shibby!

change sth DICE !!!!

[Breaker7474]

Shibbs how can we help? Let us know how to speak up to dice

[Shibby2142]

@Breaker7474

Forums / Twitter for a start, don't know what emails would do. I'll compile a list of people to give a shout at.

[lgtcount]

@Shibby2142 Feedback forums are what I'm trying to do for the changes I want. Links for couple of my topics: getsatisfaction. com/battlefield3/topics/remove­_audio_spotting_appearing_on_m­ini_map_when_firing_without_su­ppressor

getsatisfaction. com/battlefield3/topics/in_gam­e_squad_management_change_to_m­ore_like_bad_company_2

getsatisfaction. com/battlefield3/topics/change­_black_screen_duration_after_s­pawning

Click +1 plox, really helps me out =P

[H4licarnassus]

yeah a few maps are like this so annoying the peaks map is good because it favours the attackers a bit till the tunnel part so it's a lot funner

[MrKryonix]

this reminded me when I completely by accident stumbled into a conquest spawn area and killed like 5 people right after they spawned. I felt so guilty lol

[CharlieTango91]

Shibbeh this only happens to you because you play with people who want to win, which is surprising for this game. Play alone and you can enjoy your teammates sitting at deploy waiting for the jet.

[TheIwc1]

Shibbeh, will you marry me? :D

[mestido]

Well the game is finished/done, i am almost sure DICE will not change anything, hope i am wrong...

[ItsChris692]

racks on racks on racks, maybachs on bachs on bachs...

[Pke793]

It will be better probably if they had put some jets on that ship, or take out the AA from the defenders and give to the attackers transport choppers.

[ikes3151]

y have opitons u can take a heli, boats, tank boat things they just suck not ur fault thts u guys r better

[kyleh596]

i think they need valves help maybe

[nsaneize]

Glitch @ 4:01

[omgitsme78]

tis why i play conquest ^_^

[mrjacksepticeye]

Doesn't matter anyway because once Karkand hits no one will play these maps anymore :P

[Mrjesse451]

OMFG. You complain about not being able to get points but continue to spawn camp them so they cant come over to get killed by you. Lol kinda ironic,

[MrDemomanman]

while youre at it shibby, tell them to remove the co-op only unlocks, because we dont want to play the stupidass singleplayer mode in a fucking battlefield game