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  • free tibet = bullshit. period

  • Yeah seems like u really came out of mental hospital or u got ur informations from the communist china.there are less than 300,000 thousand Tibetans in India,even if u add up the number of Tibetans around the world excluding Tibet,I doubt it would be less than 300,000. It seems like according to u our world population would be 200 billion. Thank u for the general knowledge.

  • 2 million suicide in exile Tibet??? r u kidding me? u made me laugh! I am a Tibetan and I know that this is lie.

    The truth is that 1.2 million Tibetans were killed during Chinese occupation and 6000 monasteries were destroyed during cultural revolution. More people died under Mao Zedong than Hitler. Did u know that?

    This year alone... 9 monks and nun set themselves on fire in Eastern Tibet calling for Dalai Lama's return to Tibet and freedom in Tibet.

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  • Throwing money at the problem won't change it. You'd have to back the chinese into a corner and negotiate for a free Tibet. Then do was with the Theocracy that ruled for centuries.

  • 2 million actual suicide in the Da Lie Lama's exile government in India every yea

    DHARAMSHALA, September 11: A serf commits suicide in Dharamashala every minute, giving the world's most brutual serfdom the highest suicide rate in the world.

    In a survey released by the Da Lie Lama Serfdom Exile Government's Tibetan Youth Congress, two million Tibetan serfs commit suicide every years constituting 99 per cent of the total deaths annually because they cannot stand the Da Lie Lama's serfdom.

  • How much property did the 14th Dalai Lama own before fleeing Tibet in 1959?

    A great deal, according to a white paper titled Fifty Years of Democratic Reform in Tibet , recently published by the Information Office of the State Council. Following is an article published in the People's Daily Thursday in response to readers' inquiries:

  • In 1959, the Dalai Lama personally owned 160,000 liang (a Chinese weighing unit equal to 50 grams) of gold, 95 million liang of silver, more than 20,000 pieces of jewelry and jadeware, and more than 10,000 pieces of silk and satin fabric and rare fur clothing, including more than 100 robes inlaid with pearls and gems, each worth tens of thousands of yuan.

  • Before sweeping democratic reform was launched by the central government in 1959, Tibetan people had suffered under a system of feudal serfdom at the hands of religious-political rulers.

    The serf-owner class, consisting of three major estate-holders - local administrative officials, aristocrats and upper-class monastery lamas - exerted extremely brutal political suppression and economic exploitation on the serfs and slaves.

  • About 90 percent of old Tibet's population was made up of serfs, called tralpa in Tibetan (namely, people who tilled plots of land assigned to them and had to provide corvee labor for their serf owners) and duiqoin (small households with chimneys emitting smoke).

  • They had no means of production or personal freedom, and only lived on tilling plots for estate-holders for survival.

    In addition, nangzan, about 5 percent of the old Tibet's population, were hereditary slaves regarded as "speaking tools."

  • Statistics released in the early years of the Qing Dynasty (1644-1911) in the 17th century indicate that Tibet then had more than 3 million mu of farmland, of which 30.9 percent was owned by the local feudal government, 29.6 percent by aristocrats, and 39.5 percent by monastery and upper-ranking lamas.

    The monopoly of means of production by the three major estate-holders remained unchanged until the adoption of democratic reforms in 1959.

  • According to statistics, the family of the 14th Dalai Lama possessed 27 manors, 30 pastures and more than 6,000 serfs. About 33,000 ke (one ke equals 14 kilograms) of qingke (highland barley), 2,500 ke of butter, two million liang of Tibetan silver, 300 head of cattle, and 175 rolls of pulu (woolen fabric made in Tibet) were squeezed out of its serfs every year.

  • It is known that each Dalai Lama had two money-lending agencies. Some money from "tribute" to the Dalai Lama was lent at an exorbitant rate of interest.

    According to incomplete records in the account books of the two agencies, they lent 3,038,581 liang of silver as principal in 1950, and collected 303,858 liang in interest the same year. Governments of various levels in the old Tibet also had many such agencies, and lending money and interest collection became a duty of local officials.

  • A survey made in 1959 showed that the three major monasteries, namely Drepung, Sera and Ganden, in Lhasa, lent a total of 22,725,822 kilograms of grain and collected 399,364 kilograms in interest.

    Also, a total of 57,105,895 liang of silver was lent for 1,402,380-liang interest.

    Relevant statistics show revenue gained from usurious loans made up 25 to 30 percent of the total incomes of the three monasteries.

  • thats funny, westerners often say free tibet,but at the same time, they massecre afganistans, iraqis and support isreal slaugter millions of palestinians. those western countries are real hypocrites

  • @ jimmengyq

    Iraq is free from Saddam and his family.

    Afghani women have much more freedom they they did under the Taliban.

    Libya is pretty much free from Gaddafi and his family.

    Unless I'm mistaken the only country that seems to support Israel is the US.

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    Tibet was INVADED for its resources. Free Tibet from about 60 years of LOOTING by the Evil Regime of China

  • @HumanRightsVideosT

    the people killed by american army are much more than Sadam,Taliban and Gaddafi. the reason why US invade those countries is that US want to control middle east and its oil. you wanna tibet independent, that's your right. but i m pretty sure it not gonna happen in your lifetime

  • @ jimmengyq

    Do you have a source for how many people have been killed by Sadam,Taliban and Gaddafi ???

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    I didn't say that the US had a good reason for invading. Mao didn't have a good reason for INVADING Tibet either.

  • @ jimmengyq

    China should become free in the near future. Then things will be much better in Tibet and South Mongolia.

  • @HumanRightsVideosT that's impossible. even if communist party is toppled, the new government will not allow them to independent neither. this is a consensus of all chinese. the integrity of the country is much more than those minorities. no matter how is in power or what political system china has.

  • @jimmengyq no matter who is in power.

  • @ jimmengyq

    The thing that history shows us is that NO Empire Lasts Forever.

    So I don't know why anyone worries about whether Tibet will become independent or not.

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    I have a 1973 Philips Library Atlas. There is a map on page 95 that shows

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    Chinese Republic = Tibet and Sinkian-Uigur and Inner Mongolia and China

  • @HumanRightsVideosT you dont even know the relation between Pepeole's Republic of China( the communist government of mainland) and Republic of China(used to be the whole china,and today only govern taiwan). you can go to see the map of R of China, their map include both outer and inner mongolia, uigur and tibet. that show those area belong to China long before that PR China replace R of China in 1949.

  • @jimmengyq

    you seem to like maps a lot :) why dont you look at the yuan dynasty map and see that china was a part of the great mongolian empire long before red china marched into tibet in 1949???? tibet was never under han chinese rule before 1949, that is a mistery! if so, how do you explain the 17 point agreement?? why does china need an agreement like that? because tibet was NOT part of china

  • @TheMightyGuri but tibet recognize that it belong to china in republic of china peroid, although they didnt fully control them. no matter how you look at it, more than 95% of expense in tebit are paid by central government. even if tibet independent, they will be like outter mongolia, a extreme poor and backward country.

  • @jimmengyq

    where do they recognize that?? do you have any source please??? have you ever recognized that only exile tibetans from non governmental groups and tibetans INSIDE tibet want independence from china while the central tibetan administration is trying to achieve real autonomy instead and remain as part of china under the chinese constitution? what if the CCP would allow that?? would that be bad or against chinas constitution??

  • @jimmengyq

    thats bullshit, i dont support any of the thing you've just said while you fully support chinas occupation of tibet...

    so who's the real hypocrite???

  • @TheMightyGuri even before communist take over china, tibet was already part of china. you can check the history and the map of Qing dynasity and Republic of China peroid. the only difference is the degree of autonomy. why westerns like to raise the tibetan issue but not quebec, hawaii, north ireland? because they want to seperate china to maintain their dominance.

  • @jimmengyq

    the Qing dynasty was china under a foreign rule by the manchus! tibet was not part of a han chinese ruled china and never ruled by han chinese! by the fall of the qing empire, the han chinese felt a relief from this, its all over in history books! how many times did han china conquered tibet before 1949? even the republic of china had no real control over tibet! today's autonomy is just on paper just like freedom of speech! its an illusion

    free tibet

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  • The history of we had tibet is longer than americans ruling the amerindians and Before 1951 the upper class Tibetan treated their people like slaves. people who cant afford taxes had been cut off legs or arms and locked in dark it was much worse than the period of medieval Europe... and do you feel sorry for those people?

  • @Saulan Native Americans have staged protests defying the White racist invasion of America. The first incident took place in Madison's American Indian Reservation led a protest on the streets loudly demanding America's freedom, and called for the stop of genocide against the Native Americans, as well as the release of Native Americans in America. Protestors were severely beatan and some have disappeared; this is the latest in a whole month of swelling protests.

  • Be careful when you are in Taiwan and New Zealand. If you are having a heart attack on a street in Taiwan and New Zealand, a whole bunch of Taiwanese and New Zealanders get on top of you to take your organs to sell. This is from a well respected religion called Falun Gong.

  • Tibet was part of China since thousand years ago. When Mongol conquered China, they drew the map of China included Tibet.

    In Mongol history, they never conquered Tibet, only China alone, and Tibet was already part of it.

    In 1940s, white british gave opium to Chinese, causing starvation and lost generation. Then british supported the dalai lama king of slaves to separate from China. Mao sent troops to stop dalai lama and saved Tibetian from slavery.

  • @halim181276 mongols didnt conqure China theysat up an legitimate dynasty within the Chinese mandate of heaven the Yuan dynasty which included tibet as a part of China in the 1300s.

  • @ halim181276

    Mao caused starvation in Tibet. Tibetans had not experienced starvation before the invasion of their country in 1949-50.

  • @ halim 181276

    If Tibetans were slaves in 1948, they wouldn't have risen up against the communist invaders in 1959.

  • @HumanRightsVideosT

    Tibetan was not fighting against Chinese troops, it was the dalai lama and some of his followers, supported by the imperialist-british, trying to stay as the king of slaves, fighting against the Chinese troops that saved the Tibetans from slavery and imperialism.

    To people that don't understand, there are many lamas in Tibet, not only dalai lama alone. So dalai lama alone doesn't represent Tibetan at all. Dalai lama supported by the british, killed many other lamas last time.

  • @ halim181276

    There was a huge uprising in Lhasa in 1959 against the communist invaders.

    If there was slavery in Tibet then His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama would not have received over 84 awards, honorary doctorates, prizes, etc, in recognition of his message of peace, non-violence, inter-religious understanding, universal responsibility and compassion.

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    Do you have a source for slaves in Tibet in 1948 ???

  • @HumanRightsVideosT

    What do you mean huge uprising? 100 people being paid to make demonstration, burning things and killing people on the street????

    His devilness dalai lama even drank from human skull as his cup, when he was the king of slavery in Tibet. He receives many awards from western, because western wants to make China like Soviet Union last time, and he is being used as the tool to gain the interest.

    Even british admitted that Tibetan were slaves. Look at Tibet today, much much better.

  • @HumanRightsVideosT

    Young Chinese don't like working in Slavery Factories in China in 2011.

    So they jump off the factory buildings as a protest.

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    Free China from Slavery Factories in 2011

  • Thibetans are no better than the Chinese, they are just less numerous.

  • @marendoo

    I'd take HH Dalai Lama over the evil communist party any day.

  • The closest air bases firendly to the US, Britain and such are 2000 miles away and you think they are going to attack from the Pacific and risk their troops to free Tibet? Look at the US. American Indians, Mexicans, Hawaiians, and many others fell under their conquest and you a'int said shit. It is done people. The only way you can be free is not hope, but to rise, fight, and reclaim your freedom. Historically, that was the ONLY way. Read it if you don't believe. Sorry to burst your dream.

  • Dear Tibetan supporters. You realize in another 60 years, we will all be dead and Tibet will still not be free. If the Chinese can keep it that long before they even modernized, what makes you think you will ever be Independent in the future? Look at the world's history, and how it materialized. Tibet is legitimately recognized by the UN as part of China and NO country would dare to step into that hot water to make you Independent. China lost Outer Mongolia to the same pressure and now you?

  • @arodspecialist Please learn from history. NO EMPIRE LASTS FOREVER # Some of the countries and places who have recognised Tibet as a COUNTRY and when include China (821/823, 1890, 1908, 1914, 1918, 1951) Ladakh (1684, 1842) Kashmir (1852) Nepal (1856) Great Britain (1890, 1904, 1908, 1914) Mongolia (1913) please go to tibetjustice. org/materials/ treaties/index.html (remove 2 spaces) and see the treaties
  • @FalunGongIsAmazing Your timelines of Tibet being recognized as Independent run paprallel to the times when China was very weak. China was in no position to defend what Emperor Kong Xi did during his reign: annexation of Tibet through war. A country can only be what they are if they can defend it. And China during that period could not defend anything. You think the British were in Tibet to free them? Heard of India? Bottom line is you want China out. Bottom line is, impossible.

  • @arodspecialist

    China is still weak my friend. Google "China Melamine" and see the lack of control in China.

  • @FalunGongIsAmazing You know why I say impossible? 1) The world stage is set. Everyone wants peace and no one will risk a major war to free someone else with no gain. Even US involvement in other countries have drew objections. 2) You like history right? Well you know with every Independent nation on Earth, they gained Independence by fighting their oppressors. Haiti against France, US against Britain, Mexico against Spain, etc. You can ONLY do it by yourself. So quit complaining and rebel.

  • @arodspecialist

    Have you heard of Eastern Europe my friend ??

    Things went democratic there without too many problems (apart from countries who copied the US model of capitalism).

  • irrespective of whether another person is a close friend or an enemy, as long as that person wishes for peace and happiness and wishes to overcome suffering, then on that basis we develop a genuine concern for his or her problems. This is genuine compassion. the meaning of compassion which is often misunderstood. Genuine compassion is based not on our own projections and expectations, but rather on the rights of the other:

  • @benza168 Wow, here we go again. Why is it we try to tell everyone in the world what they have to do. We tried to force Iraq to do what we wantedcouldnt stay out of that one. Same in Afgan. . Now we are trying to tell the Chinese what to do. People there no WMD's or terrorists in Tibet. This is their business we need to stay out. We are not the global police or global bullies. We asked the Chinese to leave they said no. No means no people. Hey Richard Gere shout the hell up!!

  • Since then, the exile government under the Dalai Lama set up as many as 12 foreign missions all under the auspices of His Holiness’ name. These missions and other establishments are essential to bring the issue of Tibet to their respective countries and to to assert the just cause of Tibet in international forums.

  • Just get on with life or get a life, maybe another reincarnation? Quite honestly, I don't believe in all this nonsense. Live & let live!

  • But the biggest oppressors the world over are the Americans! Double standards?

  • @bhaihay

    I guess you are really saying the US and CCP are both part of the axis of evil.

  • 309 people are chinesse tyrants.

  • @caonimazazhongtoushu Another thing, 26th Jan is India's republic day, and we are debating if we should let one political party raise the national flag in the unstable state of Kashmir! Had it been China or Pak, your army or hordes of Islamic Paki loonies would have stabbed, shot and massacred to get their way. Seriously, Come to India, we'll be friends, we have Chinese food here (which I LOVE to eat btw) and I will introduce you to my Tibetan friends & read "Tales of the Tao". Zàijiàn

  • @caonimazazhongtoushu Kashmir? Islamic terror is widespread in Asia, even you will agree. Muslim separatists are doing this everywhere, Palestine, Chechnya, Serbia, Egypt Pak etc. Manipur is no secret, Maoists are keen to form a communist regime in this country. I think you know who is supplying them weapons?China+Pak=>India bad. Come to India, we treat guests like royalty, even if they have been backstabbing us for decades. Unlike China,India gives every asshole the right to revolt.

  • @caonimazazhongtoushu Yes we will let them stay here, like we have let thousands of poor Tibetians stay here because of your barbaric killings of minorities be it Tibet, N.Korean refugees, Mongols or the ethnic groups. Go on try to oppress and kill all the people you want to become supreme, INDIA IS HERE, RIGHT NEXT TO YOU AND WILL WALK THE PATH OF PEACE TO DEFEAT YOUR EVIL WAYS. SUPERPOWER MY ASS!

  • His Holiness the Dalai Lama Clarifies Statement on Retirement "More than 99 per cent of Tibetans in and outside Tibet trust me, so I have the moral responsibility to serve them. My call for complete retirement does not mean that I will forget the Tibetan struggle. I am a Tibetan and every Tibetan has the moral obligation to carry out our own struggle,"

    He reiterated that efforts to resolve the issue of Tibet would remain one of his three commitments.

    DHARMASALA, 15-12-2010

  • @dorje168

    The 14th Dalai Lama's CIA Rebellions failed numerous times because they did not have the support of the Tibetans. Tibetan-and non-Tibetan Chinese have built Tibetan areas and China without Dalai Lama and will continue to do so. No sane country and people could entrust an international personality in office who betrayed his country and carried out violence against his people for Swiss CIA Hollywood fame and money to administer to their civil liberties, unity, and prosperity.

  • @ ourlegacy

    HHDL has huge international support for his Non-Violent approach to problems.

    In 1963 (4 years after he ESCAPED from Tibet with his life)

    HH the Dalai Lama presented a draft democratic constitution for Tibet.

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    In 2001 the first direct democratic elections were held by the Tibetan people for the post of Kalon Tripa (Senior Minister) in the history of Tibet.

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    As the CCP shows NO sign of going democratic in 2011 you could say that China is more than 48 years behind Tibet.

  • howd the boycott go?

    fuck tibet

  • Free tibet,free china,boycott china,boycott the cCP,boycott slave labour and its products,boycott totalitarian dictatorships!

  • 西藏压制反对

    独裁体制反对

  • China has has gained The No.1 position in many fields: No 1 in Lying?.....China No 1 in Killing?......China No 1 in Torture?....China No 1 in Brutality?.....China No 1 in Pollution?.......China No 1 in Executions?.....China No 1 in Slave Prisons?......China No 1 in Human Rights Abuse?...China No 1 in Killing Endangered Species?...China
  • I was talking to a Chinese national the other day and she actually said that China liberated Tibet from slavery and that the Dalai Lama was the biggest slaveholder in the world before China ousted him. They are totally brainwashed and deluded there.

  • @FarEastBeast That's actually a matter of opinion. Although, honestly, any person of religious significance, like the Dalai Lama or Pope, are some form of slave holder, since they can control every "true" believer in their denomination.

    "Patriots" are often quite brainwashed.

  • @FarEastBeast

    The Tibetan and non-Tibetan Chinese nationals were so brainwashed and deluded and eager for reform that they kept Dalai Lama's elected office for another five to six years hoping for his return after he fled to India in 1959 with CIA's help and renounced the eight-year old Lhasa ratified 17 Point Agreement. I believe American democracy imprisoned and indicted Jefferson Davis, President of the Confederate States of America, without trial with treason but released him on bail.

  • congratulations to freedom loving chinese people for the disident liu Xiaobo's nobel peace prize.One day China and Tibet will be free from the evil of totalitarianism,maybe not in the next 11 months or the next 11 years,but slavery and injustice cannot last forever.

  • So, why are you silent?

    Maybe no substantial proof to prove ur points? UN may be a buraucratic institution, but they sure ain't dumb like the "actors" and "stars" in this clip. Pure rubbish........

  • @weissman2000 whats there to respond? youve shown no evidence and no statements. unlike me my statements are based on independent and respected scholars like Barry Sautman who actually know whats going on, even Patric French dalai lama supporter scholar says that alegations of genocide claimed by dalai lama and the tibetan fanatics is exaggerated. but most scholars say its fabricated.

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  • @obsidianstatue

    Hee dude, don't get me wrong here. I am just surprised of your zeal to convince believers of another religion. I totally agree with ur points, but u have to recognise that u r dealing with religious people who prays to an invisible god (sometimes multiple). So, reason and logic do not inhabit their sphere of mind. I found ridicule and jest are the best cure. At least u get a laugh out of it. It is beautiful....

  • Fuck freetibet and the dalai lama! No theocracy in the 21st century!

  • @ 66AmericanFreedom

    thousands of Chinese have been Tortured to Death

    thousands of Chinese have been Tortured to Death

    in China since the Persecution of Falun Gong began in 1999

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    FREE Tibet and China

  • @HumanRightsVideosT

    If you're such a humanitarian why are you not speaking out about what's happening right now in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Middle East? Thousands of lives are being sacrified everyday! Fuck off you sheep piece of shit! No theocracy in the 21st century! Fuck Tibetan Lamaism which is nothing more than Hinduism masquerading as Buddhism complete with CASTE SLAVERY!!!

  • @ AmericanFreedom

    The Nazi Party of China is the biggest problem in the World. When its gone the World will be a much better place.

  • Keep crying losers, cause you aint freeing shit haha! Oh and if you wanna throw personal attacks at me, just so you know, i don't reply to barking dogs lmao!

  • Good video, but lost cause. Obviously these stars like 99.9% of people criticizing China on Tibet does not know anything. Should we ask the US to give the Midwest back to the Indians? Or perhaps Texas, Arizona, and California back to the Mexicans? Face it, since 1300s, China through 3 dynasties, one democratic republic and now, we OWNED Tibet. They are definately doing better NOW, but if you insist. Do something about it. China's military gladly awaits you.

  • @arodspecialist these hollywood stars are like the red guards during the culture revolution, they dont know anything, they are just bunch of stupid fanatics whos so called spiritial callings are guilded by their countrie's political perspective.

  • All this shallow celabrities,... Under Dalai Lama rule, cut off hand by not paying tax to the top 200 families, cut off toung and dig out eye ball under Dalai rule

    China pull out the Tebit state million of the desperate, poor by millions, so it enjoyed modern socity today. Tell me that is not human right, ?? multi million's people right over few 1,000's

  • When are you all going to learn and stop arguing with one another?.... It is the powers that be that do not care about us, not each other. Wake up...

  • they shutting up their fucking mouth about palestine bcz if they say anything,they will lose their job.basically they r chicken.richard gere was famous hunk but hes now fucking old so have a rest for ever.

  • Tibet Tibet Tibet!!!! You damn idiots only hear something from the press and voila you are on the right and liberal side, on the side of how the press explained the things to you? i really dont know how you can jugde the whole country of china

    ( i feel addressed cause i am a chinese -> look at the idiot named "superwestworld" .....what a name i am speechless) when you only heard some non-objectiv interviews and speechs of some tibetian?

  • @MrLeonSKennedy1 You Sir are a liar. I have a refugee friend here, and am aware of the 300+ refugees in Austria. The austrian government is very hard at issuing visas, and 300+ tibetans have political asylum here.

    My friend has no idea about his parents anymore, because even writing an email is dangerous for his family. He was smuggled out of the country by nepalese traders, and once out, he's forever gone from there.

    The holocaust is in Tibet. Shame on you for your statements.

  • @fescolfaro go do some academic research in the works of independent academic of Barry Sautman, then you will know all the allegations of so called genocide in tibet is A LIE, and the alleged genocide is fabricated. go do some ACADEMIC research, read articals done by ACADEMICS and respected SCHOLARS, dont just listen to a CIA politcal monk or hollywood brain dead actors(acting and lying is their innate behaviour)

  • @obsidianstatue please don't start this again. You, instead of going after scholars debating human rights, should just look for any tibetan asylee and ask him why he is not home. Better yet, ask any European government why they concede asylum if there is no real genocide there.

    So shut your yapper when telling people you don't know to study if you don't know their background research prior to an opinion. Mine comes from tibetan friends in Austria, all asylees.

  • @fescolfaro i can just easily find the so called "eye witness" and accuse usa of commiting genocide in iraq. those tiny percentage of tibetans ran to india is because they FAILED in China, they had no life their, they cant get educated not because of availability its because they are religious fanatics who see an political monk as god. instead of failed religious fanatics you find in outside China why dont you ask successful happy tibetans in tibet? free teabags believe religious fanatics

  • @fescolfaro how good will it be? running to a developed country and get a free citizenship and all you have todo is to criticize China. I think in some countries those who say they have "suffered" in China also get a weekly benefit to "heal their wounds" of course those benefits are coming from stupid tax payers like you.

  • @obsidianstatue the ignorance and fanaticism in your reply speaks enough about yourself as not worthy of any counter argument. You are your own contradiction.

  • @fescolfaro With all respect to your views, the fact is this for this issue. Tibetan culture and history is entwined with China's. It goes back and forth between dynasties to whom ruled each other. We have done it often because your location was needed to secure trade routes. Tibet have done it too with one empire peaking in 700AD. China's dynasties wanted to control Tibet not only to have an ally, but also t osecure trade routes and its borders. SO if you say we are aggressors, we are.CONT

  • @fescolfaro Then again, which culture hasn't been an aggressor to get to the maps we have today? Now fast forward to modern days. China was in turmoil, hundreds of millions dies in the ends of foreign powers through trickery, wars, uprisings (Taiping), and everyone wanted a piece. Britain and Russia wanted Tibet and tried to do it by force in 1840 and 1903. Did you think it was your peaceful Tibetans who repelled them? No, the Qing helped. When Qing crumbled, it was free for all again. Sad times

  • @arodspecialist And sad times now... The point is, whenever there is such a difference in power in the political game you speak of, the end result is widespread and unavoidable oppression. You can reach a subtle, albeit unnerving balance as India and Pakistan have today, or you can have a much larger and stronger country ruling over a foreign population.

    Whenever you fit in the second description, it doesn't matter the background or what you say or do, the strongest will always be wrong.

  • @arodspecialist so when the idiot down there says "they flee because they are not successful in China", it's easy to see why. How would you feel if China was invaded and ruled over by the Japanese, and from that point on, if you wanted to make something of yourself, you had to learn Japanese, come to terms with the invaders, and in the end still never be seen as part of the ruling class while simultaneously always be looked upon as a potential enemy.

  • @arodspecialist lastly, the difference between the former times and the formation of the maps through aggression and now, is exactly the time frame and the general situation we are in as children of the globalization.

    There is enough knowledge today, and enough free-trade agreements and open borders, as in Europe itself, to accommodate political needs without resorting to oppression, without resorting to a complete annulment of a national identity or its representation.

  • @fescolfaro Agreed on all fronts my friend. Agressors are wrong most of the times, but when the stage is set and the dust has finally settled, is it worth while to fight if things are getting better? The US for instance knocked out 4 cultures and oppressed 3 to claim what is theirs today. But they have been an advocate of good and democracy. So if China is slightly opening up their doors, and spending $200+ million yearly on Tibet the last 6 years, is that bad? Tibetans don't pay taxes. Thanks.

  • @arodspecialist Yes, but the "better" is arguable... The only ones that really earned something from the "US against the globe" events were the military, "reconstruction", and oil lobbies...

    So although i understand your more neutral stance on the issue, the people that made this video and others such as R. Gere are the same ones that go to great lengths against the military in America itself, and state clearly that they plainly do not support the use of force, be it America or China. Cheers!

  • @fescolfaro there are mllions of tibetans who arnt fleeing. in 2006 a bunch of scum bag han CHinese fleed to usa seeking assylum they claimed tobe tortured and seen live human organ harvasting in China against fa lun gong and they provided the location. Harry Wu an anti Chinese activist sent his private investegators to China to that location and found NOTHING, the USA embasy went there twice first time under cover, second time an official visit again they found NOTHING.

  • @fescolfaro u see those religious fanatics have NO credibility. dalai lama also have NO credibility, his clique of aristocrates and slave owners cant produce a single piece of evidence other than a bunch of religious fanatics who sees him as god. they flee because they are scum bags in China that cant get a job and cant make a living. if you go to tibet like I have you will see that ordinary tibetans in China is very different from the religious fanatics you find elsewhere.

  • @obsidianstatue

    C'mon man, why spent effort and time convincing ignorant people? History was not a random walk. So the future will also follow a path. As the way it looks today, lies and superstition will disappear from this world. Just sit back and enjoy the show. ;)

  • I AM a chinese! i've lived in China And in europe. I can tell you that a man in for example Beijing has the same political rights like a man in tibet. Why do you want only the freedom for tibet? do you think that the rest of china is shit and only tibet is liberal? Did you forget the tian anmen protest? How would you think when so many poeple want to seperate your country? HOW?! Who has exploitet China and brought HUMILIATION to us? Now you're saying that WE dont respect human rights?

  • Tibet is doomed. Anywhere the chinese got a hand on it, the only way out is to pry it out from chinese's dead cold hand. But it's hard to kill all 1.5 billions chinese to get your freedom. Keep on fighting for Titbet people, do not give it up.

  • Free ETA!!!Free BAsque,Free Native Americans!!!

  • haha

    Dorjeshugden fakers and ccp fakers, united again.

    Go team.

  • Hey, I saw a video just last week that showed the Red Army shooting pilgrims to Tibet with sniper rifles as they walked towards Tibet from China. They lied and said they were attacked so shot them in self defense but anyone that has seen the clip I mention knows the truth. Shame on you China!!!

  • LOL, any logic person watched that " shooting video " would draw conclusion that the video is staged, silly dalailama's propagandists are at it again.

  • free t-beg, what a joke

    dalai lama's world's biggest slave owner when he ruled Tibet,

    I bet that Richard Gere bitch didn't tell ya, did he??

  • enormous appreciation to supporters of human rights and Tibet..Free Tibet from the communist government. not a single human being should be under communist party.. Bhoe Rangzen

  • FUCK FREE TIBET! No theocracy in the 21st century

  • @888legendary

    Fuck PRC. No blood sucking so-called commies in the 21th century.

  • Tibetan intellectuals, lamas, and lawmakers already freed Tibet from taxation w/o representation, and the corruption of plutocracy and theocracy, inequality, the tyranny of cruel and unusual punishment, forced unpaid labor and familial separation, high usuries and inherited debts, and poverty.

  • Heartly thankful for supporting for Tibet cause! Free Tibet and may peace be around the World.

  • i'm neither buddhist nor a devotee of DL. i respect the man enormously for his diplomatic acumen and devotion to his people and their nation.

    i am a devotee of truth, justice and human dignity.

    DL contributes to these; cpc china desecrates them. i support the universal declaration of human rights and international rule of law.

    DL supports them; beijing, washington and tel aviv all desecrate them.

  • please cite your sources for the following:

    1. DL killed DorjeShugden monks

    2. owned slaves

    3. supports the u.s. occupation of iraq

    4. supports the israeli occupation of palestine

    5. supports the torture of detainees at Gitmo

    6. supports the torture of detainees in secret cia prisons

    7. is an accomplice of cia assassins

    8. was ideologically sympathetic to the nazi regime

    and if you can't produce sources, please refrain from making false, malicious aspersions against his character.

  • free clavie05 from the evil cpc serf-lord troll thugs.

  • Axe of evil including your carnivorous DL (kill Dorje shugden monks, owner of slavery, support Iraq occupation, support Palestine occupation, support the torture in Guantanamo, support the tortures in CIA secret prisons, accomplice CIA assassinates, friend with Nazi)

  • free yourself, clavie; you'll sleep better on a clear conscience.

  • Free youself too from fanatic of carnivorous DL !

  • China is an EVIL communist empire ruled by a bunch of thugs and mafiosos. It will fail one day and breakup like the evil USSR, hopefully soon. Real China is behind the Great Wall, the rest (Tibet, East Turkestan, Mongolia and Manchuria) is not China but occupied countries.

  • clavie05 looks like just another brainwashed spammer who supports the evil communist party

    FREE the PRC

    PRC = People's Republic of Communist party DISASTERS

  • Their patriot American supported the kills or the tortures in Iraq but opposed the kill in tibetan. They are very celebraty for Hypocrisy !!!

  • i oppose the axis of evil: washington (iraq, afganistan) - tel-aviv (palestine) - beijing (tibet, east turkestan, mongolia, manchuria, sudan, nepal, north korea, myanmar).

  • More than 1 million Iraqis innocents killed by their government (USA), they dont see that or they dont worry about for that ?

  • What they are saying is just happen In Iraq made by their own government, what kind the Hypocrisy of their peoples !!!?

  • the one holding the power cannot exercise that power without our cooperation. it takes 2 to tango.

  • this isn't "domestic".

    As the Canadian Legation, Chungking, China advised Ottawa in 1944: there is no doubt that official China is determined to swallow Sinkiang, Tibet, Outer Mongolia, Kansu and Sikang, no matter what the people living in those regions may feel about the matter. The Legation added: The Chinese do not see that the attempt to compel the Tibetans to allow themselves and their country to be incorporated as an integral part of China is most definitely an act of aggression.

  • Freedom is in the mind, religious people imprison themselves through their irrational beliefs!

  • You are a typical CCP Cultist, Uneducated and Racist, spewing your vulgarities and hatred at your fellow human beings! As the whole world knows, China is governed by liars. Its people are fed on lies and as a result the Chinese have no credibility whatsoever.

  • Dalai Lama essentially has been engaging in religion-purging, defaming other sectors one by one, trying to make him the only one god in Tibetan regilions. By himself the only god like status in religion, he can pick and reincarnate any Lamas as he wish.

  • free  Tibet !!!

  • @elelgiok

    Not bloody likely............;)

  • To learn about Tibet listen to what Tibetans have to say. Please watch

    "Dispatches Undercover in Tibet" (48 minutes)

    tinyu rl. com/gubaUT (remove spaces)

    from 2008. FREE Tibet and China

  • Those western's actor ou singer must say : freedom for Iraq and Gunatanamo and fuck the countries occupied Iraq and torture in prison secret !!!

  • Thousands of Chinese have been TORTURED to DEATH in China since 1999.

    The World needs to know about the evil communist party. FREE Tibet and China

  • America is stupidest country in the world. Our Chinese will free California someday and all the entire west coast.

  • fuck you, arogant idiotic pathedic excuse for a human, 1. america is the capital of freedom and was founded by fighting england for their independance much like tibet 2. you live in america if it wernt for the DOI you wouldnt be on youtube posting propaganda bullshit 3. youtube was founded in the U.S. so i suggest you educate yourself before you make an idiot of yourself again.

  • The worlds support for Tibet gets stronger -- CCP days are numbered -- Tibet will resist -- We support them even with their peaceful stratagy - unfortunatley the ccp are fear inducing evil tactics crew -- Tell every Chinese [person even your friends that the Tibetan occupation is unjust and NOT FORGOTTEN !!! CCP OUT __ CCP FALL __ CCP should be made a terrorist organization !! murderers and land grabbing BANDITS Dr Pork

  • Who cares if it is unjust. If China occupies it and no one can take it back, it is just.

  • Innocent Chinese who confess to crimes when they get bored with being TORTURED get executed. That is unjust.

    Do you support that ???

  • The Chinese torture innocent people and execute them when they get bored of beign tortured? That does not make sense and I did not understand that. Might want to ask again, clearly.

  • Innocent Chinese who confess to crimes when they cant take being TORTURED any longer get executed.

    Do you support the use of TORTURE to gain confessions ???

  • Besides Falun Gong, prove to me innocent Chinese who confess to crimes when they cannot stand any torture get executed.

    And no, I do not support the use of torture to gain confessions. How does all this relate to any of the comment I've made?

    But seriously, torturing to gain confessions have happened in a lot of countries, what makes China a special case?

  • 1 month ago you said

    "Who cares if it is unjust"

    You seemed to support injustice when you said that so I was just pointing out what you support if you don't support justice.

    Apparently China has the highest execution rate in the World.

    FREE China

  • How does my comment have anything to do with justice and torture??? Does calling "occupier owns the land" have anything to do with torture and injustice? Nope... Justice, torture, and occupation aren't synonymous words...

    Like I said, prove to me that China has the highest execution rate, gimmie a source.

    Free China? Alright if that is what you want. No one is stopping you, but staying at home typing on a PC won't free shit.

  • when you say

    "Who cares if it is unjust"

    you are really saying you don't care about anything and you haven't got a moral conscience.

  • by extrapolating on blloodrayyven's logic, i guess we can assume that s/he also thinks a woman's rape is "just" because it happened and no one stopped it.

  • Nope, I do not think rape is just. All I am saying is that China occupies Tibet so Tibet belongs to China. Don't try to mashup legal issues with China-Tibetan issue or the alike.

    I forgot what exactly I said, I cannot find my comment in here.

  • but the invasion and occupation of tibet is very much a legal issue, in violation of international rule of law

  • War is never legal. China got Tibet before joining UN. China did not violate international rule of law as Tibet is a demostic affair. Violating human rights, China isn't alone in that.

    My point is,