Check out this rarity - Brahms Piano Concerto No 1 with Dimitris Sgouros and the SWF Sinfonieorchester Baden-Baden conducted by Gerd Albrecht (May 14, 1998, Franziskaner Konzerthaus, Villingen) [APE lossless format]:-
@ueblondon The second, sure, is a better piece, but my personal taste goes more for the first. Glad to see people who realize how great Brahms' concerti are!!
When you compare Rubenstein's approach to others here on Youtube...Ashkenazy, Kissin, and others...he is the only one who plays with calm, smooth reverance...there is nothing over-dramatic in his style. He lets the music speak for itself.
Just remember how much individual hard work went into writing every note for every instrument, Whether you like the "tune" or not, these things are works of Geniuses.
" embodies the great turmoil and anguish Brahms endured as his friend and champion Robert Schumann descended into madness, attempting suicide, while his affection for Clara continued to grow..." No. You can't draw a facile connection between the strife in a genius's life and his art. Mozart's last years were wretched, yet he wrote the Clarinet Quintet and Concerto, not to mention the Magic Flute. Similar things could be said of Schubert.
" embodies the great turmoil and anguish Brahms endured as his friend and champion Robert Schumann descended into madness, attempting suicide, while his affection for Clara continued to grow..." No. You can't draw a facile connection between the strife in a genius's life and his art. Mozart's last years were wretched, yet he wrote the Clarinet Quintet and Concerto, not to mention the Magic Flute. Similar things could be said of Schubert.
The opening of the mighty D-minor concerto embodies the great turmoil and anguish Brahms endured as his friend and champion Robert Schumann descended into madness, attempting suicide, while his affection for Clara continued to grow, remaining platonic.
Artur Rubinstein, "The Aristocrat of the Piano," was one of Brahms' greatest exponents; his recording of the D-minor cto with Leinsdorf and the BSO, and of the B-flat cto with Krips and the RCA Victor SO remain classics to this day.
i'm a Blues dude, myself. i wouldn't know Johannes Brahms from Jimmy Buffet! all i know is that this stuff is absolutely beautiful and Rubenstein tears it up! Amazing!
@jmacirish Is that a joke? The RCO was even then one of the world's best orchestras. The recorded sounds isn't good, but the orchestra under Haitink is just fine.
''Stereotypes are standardized and simplified conceptions of groups based on some prior assumptions.''
Of course, there is a stereotype of conductors. But that doesn't mean that, the stereotype most people see conductors as, is the correct way to view their, as you said it, immensely difficult job. ;)
Sonoro fracaso en su estreno.El tiempo, lo recrea como un clasico.Su nivel de expresion y armonia lo hace ahora imprescindible.Atemporal y fuera del mundo.
6:24 It's a bit funny how the conductor is so in awe.I know it's Rubinstein and all and I probably would've curtsied or something,but all this graveness cracked me up a bit I must say (no disrespect to Rubinstein!!).
@nousernamewhatsoever I had the pleasure of meeting Rubinstein in the 50s and I am sure he found it extremely amusing, but he was always outgoing and polite except when he adopted that half-lidded stare when he was playing!
@KeyGordy How fascinating. I heard he was quite the lady's man as well. One of the greats. And his son, John, is fine Broadway/Hollywood actor, of course.
@windstorm1000 you simply MUST read his two autobiographies ("my young years","my many years"),They make for a very fascinating read.I really don't have enough words to describe how amazing those books are, you have to read them yourself.I promise you that there isn't a boring moment in them :)
Thank you for this very good advice. Since I've read it I have looked for this book and I am reading it now. It is very interesting and so entertaining, very well written with so much sense of humour. He is very intelligent and gives interesting historical insights. Thanks.
Thank you for this very good advice. Since I've read it I have looked for this book and I am reading it now. It is very interesting and so entertaining, very well written with so much sense of humour. He is very intelligent and gives interesting historical insights. Thanks.
Did anyone notice how beautiful the concert hall is? I go there at least ten times a year :-) (it's in Amsterdam, right behind the Rijksmuseum and near the Van Gogh Museum)
je me rapelle quand il m'a demande si j'avais experimente avec le mj. have you ever smoked pot? i said no, because i hadn't. even though i was 19 i hadn't. he asked again and again and again. this music was playing. maybe he thought any teen listening to this music, alone in an apt, with candles everywhere...well..
les parents, divorce six ans en avant. je suis venu de finir mon premier semestre a l'universite pendant l'ete apres la matriculation du college. je n'avais pas d'amis, sauf un papillon qui avait du poid, et ses amis corrompu des memes affinites. etais-je triste? pas vraiment. ennui, je crois. je considerais les marines. un homme est venu chez nous. il m'a demande beaucoup de questions
a part d'eux, les enfants: R. la cadette qui allait avant de matriculer le college. L. qui quittait bien apres, en devenant enceinte. moi, qui a de temps a temps dit qui je ne voulais pas vivre au-dela de 35 ans. j'ai 45 maintenant (j'ai donne une date de naissance fausse dans ce profil). et ma petite souer H. qui etait chez nous.
le "sturm und drang" au commencement me semblait un metaphor musicale de mon existence jusque cette pointe-la dans ma vie. nous n'avions jamais la stabilite ma famille, tous les six: pere, qui avait l'habitude de chercher les femme au chagrin de son epouse, ma mere qui a maintenu, a guere, un peu de paix par une foi inebranable dans notre Beni Seigneur.
je ne l'ai pas choisi, parce que c'etaient les discs de ma mere qui les a probablement obtenu par hasard, a un garage sale peut-etre. nous n'avions pas beaucoup d'argent, moi, ma petite souer ( encore a l'ecole), et ma mere qui etait la seule personne d'avoir un job. je ne voulais pas travailler. je ne voulais pas faire rien . je ne voulais qu'ecouter cette belle musique..
j'ecoutais cette piece quand j'avais dix-neuf ans, seul, dans l'apt de ma mere au milieu du mi-ouest: une petite village dans l'etat de ok ou j'allumais des bougies apres avoir d'eteindre toute lumiere, et de fermer les volets. je n'ai pas choisi la piece intentionellement, il n'y avait pas beaucoup d'autres, sauf un registrement ou deux par mozart, des discs pop, pas plus de trois, c'est ca.
R's was a pupil H Barth -friend of Joachim who was a supervisor of R's musical education. Joachim of course was friend and mentor to Brahms himself! So that this interpretation by R has a fair chance of having some authenticity re performance. R was a truly great interpreter of Brahms music. B sure to hear R play the Brahms 2nd -he made three recordings first in 1929 is very interesting however 2nd recording made in 1958 with Krips is special frogmanpiano
U B right !!-see my other comments about R and his background in relation to his performances of Brahms and of course Chopin etc etc. Elsewhere someone has mentioned that they thought R was an underrated pianist ! ?? How can anyone who knows anything about recorded piano music not know of R's reputation and the esteem in which he is held even after his death in December 1982. Val R...frogmanpiano
looks like wingdings? lol ok but I'm glad you like. it's a great piece...brahms actually didn't know how he wanted to write this piece, I know one of the options was a symphony which it basically is ,just with piano
@takamiti8 So unlike most uneducated Americans, I am actually bilingual. Knowing the inconsistancies of doing so I google translated what you said into both of my languages. Both times I got uninterpretalbe nonesense. I take it japanese is your second language?
四柱推命 is a concept in chinese astrology used to determine a person's destiny. The below items are known as 干支:
癸巳 is the 30th stem of 干支 and in the western calendar is 1833 (year Brahms was born) 丁巳 is the 54th stem / western 1857 (he work at Detmold as Court pianist/Court conductor) 己丑 / year 1889 (Brahms appointed Free Man of Hamburg) 大運庚戌 1897 (year of Brahm's death)
In closing: Don't be quick to judge things that are way over your head, my dear Mr. "bilingual"
@the81stviewer 四柱推命 is a concept in chinese astrology used to determine a person's destiny. The below items are known as 干支:
癸巳 is the 30th stem of 干支 and in the western calendar is 1833 (year Brahms was born) 丁巳 is the 54th stem / western 1857 (he work at Detmold as Court pianist/Court conductor) 己丑 / year 1889 (Brahms appointed Free Man of Hamburg) 大運庚戌 1897 (year of Brahm's death)
In closing: Don't be too quick to judge things that are way over your head, my dear Mr. "bilingual"
@manaresi It is sentences to see Brahms' fortune in the fortune-telling of China. I'm sorry ..no English it... ･･･ In the composition of English, it is not good.
good job! that is the reason I looked it up!. the first ten mesures are in D locrian, which has the same notes as Eb Major. Normally locrian is not used, especially not in classical music because the tonic chord is a diminished chord. I wanted to hear it used in classical music, instead of jazz which it is usually used in; almost exclusively.
haha no its not that i have a good ear for music or anything, but i saw this on wiki and thought id look up the song, yes locrian is excellent to improvise in if u have a bass playing rhythm but the chords arent very pleasing to the ear
Its pointless to consider it in terms of D Locrian. Pretty much no composer in the 1800s composed modally. The modes more or less died with the classical era and didn't re-emerge as compositional tools till the 20th century. I'm pretty sure the opening harmony can be classified as an augmented 6/5 chord in preparation for the dominant, which are found extensively in Brahms.
im surpised how well he still plays this. If you watch horowitz play or hear him in some of his recordings he has not nearly aged this well. But both were great pianists in their time
Thanks SO much for giving us such an extended history and background of this seminal piece: it sure would be great if everyone posting world-class music on YouTube did this!!
Mira: I admire your dedication to your Art. your Calling. Often wish I'd that strength at 14. If you miss professionan success the spirtual rewards will be with you always, whatever your faith.
I. alas, do not play, thought have studied a bit Yet I listen keenly..Always liked Claudio Arraaur on Brahms-balance between ferocity and fineese. Best. GFT
why does all the amazing pianist and composers lived so early we didn't even saw one still LIVING!! THERE ALL DEAD!!!! all of them!! i'm really wondering there is just a certain number of centuries that great pianist and composers live and then our generation i've never heard of a three yr old child playing the piano like a genius like mozart or composing a long composition like mozart when he was 6 yrs old
There are young, great pianists today eg Lang lang etc but as for great composers I guess that two things come to mind, one is that the state educational system probably stifles any ambition and anyone with any talent probably ends up writing film music eg John Williams), or some of the drivel on Classic FM ie mood music like Einaudi.
just because you don't know about today's great composers doesn't mean there aren't any. people such as ligeti, pierre boulez, messiaen, kurtag, steve reich, john adams, morton feldman, philip glass are only the first ones that jump to mind, there are so many wonderful composers of the second half of the twentieth/ beginning of the twenty first century!
Well I put reich, feldman adams and glass there because they are nevertheless quite famous and have universal appeal, but they are certainly my least favourite out of the list;
I do not think that look has anything to do with the appeal they get, and with the age of the internet this music has a new medium, such as youtube: thousands of people are stunned by some of the extraordinary modern music you can find here- today there is greater medium for this music to travel than there ever has been... I have discovered and listened to so much that i would not have otherwise. And just look at the number of young-composer competitions that bring young talent to light today!
Reich, Adams and Glass are garbage; the others on your list, yes, superb composers. I would add Brian Ferneyhough and Elliot Carter, maybe Eetvos as well.
I definately agree, the list is by no means comprehensive! Though there are one or two pieces by reich that I like... I would also add stockhausen, nono, berio, schnittke, xenakis, though there are plenty more which don't spring to mind now...
Today, popular music is the only thing you hear because it is so easy to play and enjoy, and classical music with real composers is a very very small minority now.
But i love classical music even though i'm just 14 I've been studying piano for 11 years straight and my family always plays a classical cd when i was little that's why i enjoy it. In my age my friends preffer the modern music but those artist and singers won't last for more than a hundred years like schubert,chopin,mozart,beethoven etc. I would rather go to a music conservatory in college in europe because i love classical music especially the piano i practice 3 hrs daily and 8 in the weekends
You should post some vids of you playing. I'd love to see how far you've come at such a young age. I'm 21 and started playing almost 2 years ago. Your very luck you don't have bills and a job! I'd love to practice that often, but it gets harder to find time as you grow older. Embrace it!
I dearly love both piano concertos but there is no question that the first is a work of youth and the second a work of a far more mature composer. When I listen to the first, I am immediately taken back to the springtime of my life - the passions and loves and storms of my youth. When I listen to the second, I am my current age (60) ... looking out my back window at Autumnal woods while thinking of retirement. Each concerto evokes different emotions - one is not better than the other.
When I first heard the first movement of this piece, I was bewildered! What's going on with that crazy tympani part and the ludicrous trills? I have since grown to appreciate the piece -- remember, Brahms was in his early 20's when he began composing this piece!
I suppose. It almost becomes symphonic, which I actually like in concertos now. Brahms wrote a lot of music with symphonic ideas, which is probably why I like his violin and piano concertos.
I read in a Brahms biography that the Leipzig audiences in that era didn't think much of most composers except for Bach and Mendelssohn. They were a very hard audience to impress.
To me Rubinstein is the best Brahms piano interpreter and indisputably so in this piano concerto. Even this performance in very advanced age is a masterpiece of interpretation!
I have had not just the pleasure, but the honor, of seeing both Rubenstien and Haitink in person. Rubenstein at his last concert in L.A. in 1975, when he was already 88, but with wrists like a bull. What makes Haitink such a great conductor in concertos (as if he isn't great otherwise) is that he knows his orchestra is just another instrument. He has always let the soloist outshine him.
great recording and program notes, thanks!
asliuf 5 days ago
just devine!
chuggos 2 weeks ago
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Check out this rarity - Brahms Piano Concerto No 1 with Dimitris Sgouros and the SWF Sinfonieorchester Baden-Baden conducted by Gerd Albrecht (May 14, 1998, Franziskaner Konzerthaus, Villingen) [APE lossless format]:-
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cvxmelody 3 weeks ago
Unfortunate thathe video is behind the audio.
We look at the pipe organ but not his hands. Idiot video director.
robertgift 3 months ago
@robertgift ever played on an organ?
LeoLovesAmi 2 weeks ago
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@LeoLovesAmi "ever played on an organ?"
I am an organist.
Why does the idiot video director allow so little of Rubenstein's hands to be seen?
robertgift 2 weeks ago
That is one serious intro. I always forget it's a piano concerto a while before the soloist plays a single note.
powellpicc1985 4 months ago
Awesome.Up there with the glorious Serkin version.
paulostroff99 6 months ago
You should listen to the gilels/jochum version.Unsurpassed!
jpsa2007 6 months ago
Dramatic opening win.
Vesivian 6 months ago
this is the second greatest piece of music ever. The first one being the piano concerto no. 2
ueblondon 6 months ago
@ueblondon The second, sure, is a better piece, but my personal taste goes more for the first. Glad to see people who realize how great Brahms' concerti are!!
OrangeSodaKing 6 months ago
@OrangeSodaKing
The first one is subversif only! And beautiful!!!!
Orchidoclastie 1 month ago
ccc Haitink reyiz ccc
redingot1 6 months ago
When you compare Rubenstein's approach to others here on Youtube...Ashkenazy, Kissin, and others...he is the only one who plays with calm, smooth reverance...there is nothing over-dramatic in his style. He lets the music speak for itself.
tophatandtails 7 months ago
@tophatandtails Clearly you've never heard Claudio Arrau performing this work .
Ray0X0 6 months ago
haha the conductor is shaking so much the rest of his hair might come out....
hehe.....
missmusiclover388 7 months ago
Awesome playing! TY StravinskijO for posting.
paulostroff99 7 months ago
the hair... The Hair... THE HAIR!!!!!!!
m1ker0dd 8 months ago
Just remember how much individual hard work went into writing every note for every instrument, Whether you like the "tune" or not, these things are works of Geniuses.
sussexpenguin 8 months ago
Haitink is not true man to response this concerto.
bledjanstufi 8 months ago
Up to today Rubinstein still owns this piece
voolare 9 months ago
I dunno why, but just the small passage from 3:56-4:01 gives me goosebumps. everytime. so beautiful...
Alvinacid 10 months ago
Really SUPER FANTASTIC!!!
aurmusic 11 months ago
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" embodies the great turmoil and anguish Brahms endured as his friend and champion Robert Schumann descended into madness, attempting suicide, while his affection for Clara continued to grow..." No. You can't draw a facile connection between the strife in a genius's life and his art. Mozart's last years were wretched, yet he wrote the Clarinet Quintet and Concerto, not to mention the Magic Flute. Similar things could be said of Schubert.
jeffg2020 11 months ago
" embodies the great turmoil and anguish Brahms endured as his friend and champion Robert Schumann descended into madness, attempting suicide, while his affection for Clara continued to grow..." No. You can't draw a facile connection between the strife in a genius's life and his art. Mozart's last years were wretched, yet he wrote the Clarinet Quintet and Concerto, not to mention the Magic Flute. Similar things could be said of Schubert.
jeffg2020 11 months ago
The opening of the mighty D-minor concerto embodies the great turmoil and anguish Brahms endured as his friend and champion Robert Schumann descended into madness, attempting suicide, while his affection for Clara continued to grow, remaining platonic.
Artur Rubinstein, "The Aristocrat of the Piano," was one of Brahms' greatest exponents; his recording of the D-minor cto with Leinsdorf and the BSO, and of the B-flat cto with Krips and the RCA Victor SO remain classics to this day.
AJNorth 11 months ago
i'm a Blues dude, myself. i wouldn't know Johannes Brahms from Jimmy Buffet! all i know is that this stuff is absolutely beautiful and Rubenstein tears it up! Amazing!
jteshuwah 1 year ago
Love Rubinstein, but I wish he could have been with a better orchestra.
jmacirish 1 year ago
@jmacirish Is that a joke? The RCO was even then one of the world's best orchestras. The recorded sounds isn't good, but the orchestra under Haitink is just fine.
jlaurson 1 year ago
@jlaurson It was indeed a joke.
jmacirish 1 year ago
i like brahms audience real educated and sophisticated. keep it up.
upsightdown 1 year ago
here is pianism at its best
dmmm1121 1 year ago
Well, in precedent b&w videos; he didn't played my favorites études de Chopin(op.10 et 25); but i will find them on cds !!
Sylvain894 1 year ago
@Crissaish
''Stereotypes are standardized and simplified conceptions of groups based on some prior assumptions.''
Of course, there is a stereotype of conductors. But that doesn't mean that, the stereotype most people see conductors as, is the correct way to view their, as you said it, immensely difficult job. ;)
Anyway, great performance...
NjallPiano 1 year ago
Sonoro fracaso en su estreno.El tiempo, lo recrea como un clasico.Su nivel de expresion y armonia lo hace ahora imprescindible.Atemporal y fuera del mundo.
paradoxicus 1 year ago
that conductor fits every conductor stereotype out there.... XD
8088samjam 1 year ago
@8088samjam That conductor is Bernard Haitink. On of the great conductors of his time. This was recorded in the Concertgebouw in Amsterdam.
Paters1234 1 year ago
Man,I like this music!!!!!!!!!!
danielbaeg 1 year ago
those with 5 thumbs down, don't have any idea of what music is... really sad
bass100483 1 year ago
Just Perfect!!!!
098musica 1 year ago
Enormous performance of great feeling! TY.
paulostroff99 1 year ago
6:24 It's a bit funny how the conductor is so in awe.I know it's Rubinstein and all and I probably would've curtsied or something,but all this graveness cracked me up a bit I must say (no disrespect to Rubinstein!!).
nousernamewhatsoever 1 year ago
@nousernamewhatsoever I had the pleasure of meeting Rubinstein in the 50s and I am sure he found it extremely amusing, but he was always outgoing and polite except when he adopted that half-lidded stare when he was playing!
KeyGordy 1 year ago
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@KeyGordy sexy stare :P
but what did he mean by saying that he could play another whole concert on the mistakes?
nousernamewhatsoever 1 year ago
@KeyGordy How fascinating. I heard he was quite the lady's man as well. One of the greats. And his son, John, is fine Broadway/Hollywood actor, of course.
windstorm1000 4 months ago
@windstorm1000 you simply MUST read his two autobiographies ("my young years","my many years"),They make for a very fascinating read.I really don't have enough words to describe how amazing those books are, you have to read them yourself.I promise you that there isn't a boring moment in them :)
nousernamewhatsoever 4 months ago
@nousernamewhatsoever
Thank you for this very good advice. Since I've read it I have looked for this book and I am reading it now. It is very interesting and so entertaining, very well written with so much sense of humour. He is very intelligent and gives interesting historical insights. Thanks.
Josemjkno 2 weeks ago
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Thank you for this very good advice. Since I've read it I have looked for this book and I am reading it now. It is very interesting and so entertaining, very well written with so much sense of humour. He is very intelligent and gives interesting historical insights. Thanks.
Josemjkno il y a 1 seconde
Josemjkno 2 weeks ago
Did anyone notice how beautiful the concert hall is? I go there at least ten times a year :-) (it's in Amsterdam, right behind the Rijksmuseum and near the Van Gogh Museum)
Krifko 1 year ago
magnifico concierto, pero mas que un gran concierto, es una gran sinfonia para piano y orquesta, bravo por el maestro rubintein
julinho006 1 year ago
I honestly think that Rubinstein is the Beethoven or Chopin or for me. The style of this is too "pensive".
SugarTomAppleRoger 1 year ago
Haitink is so young!!
iplongnin 1 year ago
Rubinstein is probably my favorite. He liked to say, "I could play another whole concert on the mistakes! Notice his technique for octave trills.
KeyGordy 1 year ago
@KeyGordy what did he mean by saying that and in what context was it said?
nousernamewhatsoever 1 year ago
@nousernamewhatsoever
I took the quote from his autobiography:Rubinstein, Artur (1973). My Young Years. New York: Knopf. ISBN 0394468902.
He meant he ignored mistakes and concentrated on expressive interpretation of the music. It is an attitude I try to emulate...
KeyGordy 1 year ago
sehr scheonnnnnnnnnnnn.
die Stimme ist ansolut !
yirangock 1 year ago
Listen to the first minute - the timpani player must have arms of steel xD
kpatb 1 year ago
Le meileur musicien avec charm et pianofortisimmo !
ioachimb 1 year ago
le vreiment musique !
ioachimb 1 year ago
toll.... allerdings sind die aufnahmen nicht mit der musik synchron... egal ! =)
CuteLittleJazzBaby 1 year ago
La nuova veste della musica
MrGaity 1 year ago
It is one of the most successful performances ever heard
evagrie2000 1 year ago
Terrific! Might I recommend this 1967 recording by then-26 year old Bruno Leonard Gelber:
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classicvinylbiz 1 year ago
Awesome
paulostroff99 1 year ago
Rubi is so talented.. he gives me chills even though his way of playing is so different from what I read in this concerto. he simply is unique.
karakallatore 1 year ago
Realmente magnífico.
osoondo1 1 year ago
fantastic music world,, infinite space sounds in the earth
cosmolider 1 year ago
grandissimo
frapepsi 1 year ago
Awesome
paulostroff99 1 year ago
King Arthur dans ses oeuvres.... bouleversant.
hedones 1 year ago 2
rubenstein held his upper body very still when he plays....let the fingers do the talking!! awesome...
drccddmm 1 year ago
Every piece written in D minor always move me. At 5:20 it's really heart tearing
abubakr19 1 year ago 4
@abubakr19 Yah, F major for me....
AdamWho 1 month ago
aww... terrible audio, good music =((((
craker3833 1 year ago
je me rapelle quand il m'a demande si j'avais experimente avec le mj. have you ever smoked pot? i said no, because i hadn't. even though i was 19 i hadn't. he asked again and again and again. this music was playing. maybe he thought any teen listening to this music, alone in an apt, with candles everywhere...well..
turquoise770 1 year ago
les parents, divorce six ans en avant. je suis venu de finir mon premier semestre a l'universite pendant l'ete apres la matriculation du college. je n'avais pas d'amis, sauf un papillon qui avait du poid, et ses amis corrompu des memes affinites. etais-je triste? pas vraiment. ennui, je crois. je considerais les marines. un homme est venu chez nous. il m'a demande beaucoup de questions
turquoise770 1 year ago
a part d'eux, les enfants: R. la cadette qui allait avant de matriculer le college. L. qui quittait bien apres, en devenant enceinte. moi, qui a de temps a temps dit qui je ne voulais pas vivre au-dela de 35 ans. j'ai 45 maintenant (j'ai donne une date de naissance fausse dans ce profil). et ma petite souer H. qui etait chez nous.
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turquoise770 1 year ago
le "sturm und drang" au commencement me semblait un metaphor musicale de mon existence jusque cette pointe-la dans ma vie. nous n'avions jamais la stabilite ma famille, tous les six: pere, qui avait l'habitude de chercher les femme au chagrin de son epouse, ma mere qui a maintenu, a guere, un peu de paix par une foi inebranable dans notre Beni Seigneur.
turquoise770 1 year ago
je ne l'ai pas choisi, parce que c'etaient les discs de ma mere qui les a probablement obtenu par hasard, a un garage sale peut-etre. nous n'avions pas beaucoup d'argent, moi, ma petite souer ( encore a l'ecole), et ma mere qui etait la seule personne d'avoir un job. je ne voulais pas travailler. je ne voulais pas faire rien . je ne voulais qu'ecouter cette belle musique..
turquoise770 1 year ago
j'ecoutais cette piece quand j'avais dix-neuf ans, seul, dans l'apt de ma mere au milieu du mi-ouest: une petite village dans l'etat de ok ou j'allumais des bougies apres avoir d'eteindre toute lumiere, et de fermer les volets. je n'ai pas choisi la piece intentionellement, il n'y avait pas beaucoup d'autres, sauf un registrement ou deux par mozart, des discs pop, pas plus de trois, c'est ca.
turquoise770 1 year ago
R's was a pupil H Barth -friend of Joachim who was a supervisor of R's musical education. Joachim of course was friend and mentor to Brahms himself! So that this interpretation by R has a fair chance of having some authenticity re performance. R was a truly great interpreter of Brahms music. B sure to hear R play the Brahms 2nd -he made three recordings first in 1929 is very interesting however 2nd recording made in 1958 with Krips is special frogmanpiano
frogmanpiano 1 year ago
@frogmanpiano thank you
ibclappin 1 year ago
One of the greatest pieces of music EVER!
shervman 1 year ago 46
so many ignorant comments
ibclappin 1 year ago 3
U B right !!-see my other comments about R and his background in relation to his performances of Brahms and of course Chopin etc etc. Elsewhere someone has mentioned that they thought R was an underrated pianist ! ?? How can anyone who knows anything about recorded piano music not know of R's reputation and the esteem in which he is held even after his death in December 1982. Val R...frogmanpiano
frogmanpiano 1 year ago
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starcati 2 years ago
Did anyone catch the Virginia Symphony's performance of this this past Saturday Night at Chrysler Hall?
mkl62 2 years ago
@mkl62
Actually yes, and I thought they did fairly well with the piece *is trying not to be biased with a friend in the orchestra*
Sakuragal212 2 years ago
It's makes me think of some old cartoons
TanJianWei92 2 years ago 2
Impresionante, Brahms...
bravoMisirlou 2 years ago
I prefer Curzon on this
rhomp2002 2 years ago
el puro power!
joycedusoleil 2 years ago 3
pretty place
Arya2611 2 years ago
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shut up that's not important
PapermoonCutout 2 years ago
BEAUTIFUL PLACE.
Arya2611 2 years ago
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britangeldetinieblas 2 years ago
ブラームスの四柱推命
癸巳
丁巳
己丑
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亡くなったときの大運庚戌
takamiti8 2 years ago 29
I'll thumbs up this only because i have absolutely no idea what it's saying lol. and it looks like wingdings, so it's all good.
knot4reel91 2 years ago 2
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English is not understood. Japanese, please.
takamiti8 2 years ago
looks like wingdings? lol ok but I'm glad you like. it's a great piece...brahms actually didn't know how he wanted to write this piece, I know one of the options was a symphony which it basically is ,just with piano
vcupiano 2 years ago
@takamiti8 So unlike most uneducated Americans, I am actually bilingual. Knowing the inconsistancies of doing so I google translated what you said into both of my languages. Both times I got uninterpretalbe nonesense. I take it japanese is your second language?
the81stviewer 11 months ago
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@the81stviewer
四柱推命 is a concept in chinese astrology used to determine a person's destiny. The below items are known as 干支:
癸巳 is the 30th stem of 干支 and in the western calendar is 1833 (year Brahms was born) 丁巳 is the 54th stem / western 1857 (he work at Detmold as Court pianist/Court conductor) 己丑 / year 1889 (Brahms appointed Free Man of Hamburg) 大運庚戌 1897 (year of Brahm's death)
In closing: Don't be quick to judge things that are way over your head, my dear Mr. "bilingual"
JT0420 10 months ago
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@the81stviewer 四柱推命 is a concept in chinese astrology used to determine a person's destiny. The below items are known as 干支:
癸巳 is the 30th stem of 干支 and in the western calendar is 1833 (year Brahms was born) 丁巳 is the 54th stem / western 1857 (he work at Detmold as Court pianist/Court conductor) 己丑 / year 1889 (Brahms appointed Free Man of Hamburg) 大運庚戌 1897 (year of Brahm's death)
In closing: Don't be too quick to judge things that are way over your head, my dear Mr. "bilingual"
JT0420 10 months ago
@the81stviewer Ooh, a snob.
wolfen244 10 months ago
@takamiti8 Why there are so many people supporting this comment? You all can read japaness and know what it means?
qinyu8339 10 months ago
@takamiti8 Why there are so many people supporting this comment? You all can read japaness and know what it means?
qinyu8339 10 months ago
@takamiti8 GREATEST COMMENT EVER!
Translate it via Google, you'll be inspired!
manaresi 10 months ago
@manaresi It is sentences to see Brahms' fortune in the fortune-telling of China. I'm sorry ..no English it... ･･･ In the composition of English, it is not good.
takamiti8 10 months ago
@takamiti8
Great response!
Nohandsdigital 10 months ago
This is the first time I've seen Haitink anywhere besides live at the CSO.
Ltlevim 2 years ago
is this in locrian?
Nikrou 2 years ago 2
good job! that is the reason I looked it up!. the first ten mesures are in D locrian, which has the same notes as Eb Major. Normally locrian is not used, especially not in classical music because the tonic chord is a diminished chord. I wanted to hear it used in classical music, instead of jazz which it is usually used in; almost exclusively.
crankthatprostate 2 years ago 4
haha no its not that i have a good ear for music or anything, but i saw this on wiki and thought id look up the song, yes locrian is excellent to improvise in if u have a bass playing rhythm but the chords arent very pleasing to the ear
Nikrou 2 years ago 3
yeah thats how i found it too, thats the whole point of locrian is the chords sound like crap so the classical composers didn't use it
crankthatprostate 2 years ago 2
yeah but when the bass and the guitar play in locrian without using chords(ie just single notes) it can sound amazing
Nikrou 2 years ago
Its pointless to consider it in terms of D Locrian. Pretty much no composer in the 1800s composed modally. The modes more or less died with the classical era and didn't re-emerge as compositional tools till the 20th century. I'm pretty sure the opening harmony can be classified as an augmented 6/5 chord in preparation for the dominant, which are found extensively in Brahms.
thereisonlyonething 2 years ago
Yes, same as E-flat major scale.
Hybridstigmatist 2 years ago
im surpised how well he still plays this. If you watch horowitz play or hear him in some of his recordings he has not nearly aged this well. But both were great pianists in their time
dxhaloxc 2 years ago
Rubinstein, a Polish genius!:)
FrancisDarthmour 2 years ago 4
Genial music!!!!!!!
Anulicika 2 years ago
how old is rubinstein?
nicolepopova 2 years ago
was
HelveteKeiser 2 years ago
is this a joke? he is dead now.;(
FrancisDarthmour 2 years ago
My question was wrong. How old was he as he recorded this?
nicolepopova 2 years ago
Thanks SO much for giving us such an extended history and background of this seminal piece: it sure would be great if everyone posting world-class music on YouTube did this!!
HolyMotherofGrid 2 years ago 2
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Look at how fucking old he is.
beemochobrahms 2 years ago
Mira: I admire your dedication to your Art. your Calling. Often wish I'd that strength at 14. If you miss professionan success the spirtual rewards will be with you always, whatever your faith.
I. alas, do not play, thought have studied a bit Yet I listen keenly..Always liked Claudio Arraaur on Brahms-balance between ferocity and fineese. Best. GFT
gfterp 2 years ago
this version is quite good - what is considered the best version on youtube.
I haven't found anything on youtube to match Katchen's recorded version of the 2nd
Sim882 2 years ago
very beautiful. thank you for the back story. :) i am about to see this work in june.
microcosom 2 years ago 4
from a music festival?
penguinshin 2 years ago
Superhuman octogenarian! Wow!
vincecharus 2 years ago
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Rubinstein playing was way too slow! Powerless and impotent!! Sorry ..... he's just not a virtuoso to me .......
SamuelConcepcion 2 years ago
We're playing this in my orchestra right now!!
NatsukoBing 2 years ago
why does all the amazing pianist and composers lived so early we didn't even saw one still LIVING!! THERE ALL DEAD!!!! all of them!! i'm really wondering there is just a certain number of centuries that great pianist and composers live and then our generation i've never heard of a three yr old child playing the piano like a genius like mozart or composing a long composition like mozart when he was 6 yrs old
mira4426 2 years ago
There are young, great pianists today eg Lang lang etc but as for great composers I guess that two things come to mind, one is that the state educational system probably stifles any ambition and anyone with any talent probably ends up writing film music eg John Williams), or some of the drivel on Classic FM ie mood music like Einaudi.
confucious100 2 years ago 2
just because you don't know about today's great composers doesn't mean there aren't any. people such as ligeti, pierre boulez, messiaen, kurtag, steve reich, john adams, morton feldman, philip glass are only the first ones that jump to mind, there are so many wonderful composers of the second half of the twentieth/ beginning of the twenty first century!
kusuna7 2 years ago 4
Most of those are minimalist garbage..
The truth is there are hundred of thousands of great composers that nobody hears about because either/and:
1) They don't look good.
2) They never had the opportunity or medium to become famous.
rumpranger65 2 years ago
Well I put reich, feldman adams and glass there because they are nevertheless quite famous and have universal appeal, but they are certainly my least favourite out of the list;
kusuna7 2 years ago
I do not think that look has anything to do with the appeal they get, and with the age of the internet this music has a new medium, such as youtube: thousands of people are stunned by some of the extraordinary modern music you can find here- today there is greater medium for this music to travel than there ever has been... I have discovered and listened to so much that i would not have otherwise. And just look at the number of young-composer competitions that bring young talent to light today!
kusuna7 2 years ago 2
Reich, Adams and Glass are garbage; the others on your list, yes, superb composers. I would add Brian Ferneyhough and Elliot Carter, maybe Eetvos as well.
Corrado7mari 2 years ago
I definately agree, the list is by no means comprehensive! Though there are one or two pieces by reich that I like... I would also add stockhausen, nono, berio, schnittke, xenakis, though there are plenty more which don't spring to mind now...
kusuna7 2 years ago
I would add Arvo Part to that.
thereisonlyonething 2 years ago
Today, popular music is the only thing you hear because it is so easy to play and enjoy, and classical music with real composers is a very very small minority now.
rumpranger65 2 years ago 2
But i love classical music even though i'm just 14 I've been studying piano for 11 years straight and my family always plays a classical cd when i was little that's why i enjoy it. In my age my friends preffer the modern music but those artist and singers won't last for more than a hundred years like schubert,chopin,mozart,beethoven etc. I would rather go to a music conservatory in college in europe because i love classical music especially the piano i practice 3 hrs daily and 8 in the weekends
mira4426 2 years ago 5
I am 15 and have been playing for two years and I practice all the time as well. I feel the same way. But most people don't think like us my friend!
rumpranger65 2 years ago 3
You should post some vids of you playing. I'd love to see how far you've come at such a young age. I'm 21 and started playing almost 2 years ago. Your very luck you don't have bills and a job! I'd love to practice that often, but it gets harder to find time as you grow older. Embrace it!
Hybridstigmatist 2 years ago 2
Unbelievable!!!
tato4527 2 years ago
Incredible Rubinstein! He must have been 85 when he recorded this! Unbelievable...
chacoteris 2 years ago 2
I wonder if someone is going to make a tutorial for this Concerto.
Zantking70 2 years ago
I dearly love both piano concertos but there is no question that the first is a work of youth and the second a work of a far more mature composer. When I listen to the first, I am immediately taken back to the springtime of my life - the passions and loves and storms of my youth. When I listen to the second, I am my current age (60) ... looking out my back window at Autumnal woods while thinking of retirement. Each concerto evokes different emotions - one is not better than the other.
wbcred 2 years ago
A great piece and a legendary soloist. Perfect!
(Ja video lienee suomalaista alkuperää...)
WEbamil 3 years ago
Incredible. At such an age- if I live to BE that age- I hope to be playing the piano half as well as he is!
beemochobrahms 3 years ago
How anyone can say this is not a beautiful piece of music is beyond me.
Shipskeel 3 years ago
freire and the gewandhouser orchester's performance is the best. by far!
P0L0K0P 3 years ago
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ARGH! This concerto is perfectly unorthodox, banal and horrid!!
GusMagnusO 3 years ago
When I first heard the first movement of this piece, I was bewildered! What's going on with that crazy tympani part and the ludicrous trills? I have since grown to appreciate the piece -- remember, Brahms was in his early 20's when he began composing this piece!
yamahabro 3 years ago 3
Haha, yes. It's a kind of "sturm und drang" work.
taviona 3 years ago
i really can't imagine how Brahms worked out such a wonderful piece at a young Age
nokia1242000 3 years ago
I suppose. It almost becomes symphonic, which I actually like in concertos now. Brahms wrote a lot of music with symphonic ideas, which is probably why I like his violin and piano concertos.
Sinfoniette 3 years ago
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You don't know what you are talking about. Idiot.
marklavar 3 years ago
It's kind of sad that people don't realise that you're making a joke from the description.
CheapDisco 3 years ago
Three cheers for the unorthodox!!!!
Shipskeel 3 years ago
I do agree it is different... But Banal and horrid?
beryllium2 3 years ago
I read in a Brahms biography that the Leipzig audiences in that era didn't think much of most composers except for Bach and Mendelssohn. They were a very hard audience to impress.
horatiodreamt 2 years ago
This is such a huge romantisism master piece. Full of love and passion.
domkim1986 3 years ago 2
Les compositeurs racontent des aventures merveilleuses en musique, comme les écrivains les racontent avec des mots.
Rbennaim 3 years ago
this concert can be play only rubinstein, the best. i love this concert of brahms
martyfergie91 3 years ago
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l have never seen so many bad hair styles in one place...there can be no beauty in this music whilst the players look like "kiddie fiddlers"..
eddietwang 3 years ago
Gay dumbass.
MarshalGZhukov 3 years ago
who cares about the hair, just listen to the music.
99centstore 3 years ago 3
There's no doubt it's the right tempo!
kreutzo1 3 years ago
I am amazed! Fantastic!
attnzl 3 years ago
To me Rubinstein is the best Brahms piano interpreter and indisputably so in this piano concerto. Even this performance in very advanced age is a masterpiece of interpretation!
voolare 3 years ago 3
Yup. And don't forget the Chopin.
grabit1 3 years ago
I have had not just the pleasure, but the honor, of seeing both Rubenstien and Haitink in person. Rubenstein at his last concert in L.A. in 1975, when he was already 88, but with wrists like a bull. What makes Haitink such a great conductor in concertos (as if he isn't great otherwise) is that he knows his orchestra is just another instrument. He has always let the soloist outshine him.
grabit1 3 years ago 2
Do bulls have strong wrists?
JulesJapan 3 years ago