God exists, that's the accepted claim by the majority of people, you want to challenge that, bring the evidence, the burden of proof is on YOU. Some narrow minded atheist proposed the wrong notion that atheism doesn't require evidence and many gullible atheists had run to foolishly embrace it. Philosophically the burden of proof is in the argument challenging the establishment. What evidence you have that atheism is true? None, zero, nada. Open your eyes, you're being deceived by an evil cult.
I've heard a better version: "Christianity: The belief that a cosmic jewish zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree... yeah, makes perfect sanse"
Our lives can seem difficult. Our minds are a way to escape to or invent a better place such as an after life and down the road happiness. We have struggled for our entire existence. It is engrained into our psyche. Today we live better than kings and queens of old. We have to give thanks to ourselves and science and enjoy life now. There is no hell so that should make you very happy.
Matt beleives it's Christian to think you can do anything you want and still be forgiven because he belonged to a denomination which beleived in Eternal Security. This is a false doctrine.
there is one god/divine/the source try meditation and connect with your inner guides/angels activate your chakras reserch your etheric body! you are the light and we are all ONE & WE ARE THE ONES WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE THE ANGELS YOU ARE THE GODS PEACE LOVE AND LIGHT from rob841
@sallyann11691 Love is a state of mind caused by the chemicals and electric impulses that happend in the brain, which is influenced by the information provided by our senses. Basicaly its not much different (in the way it works) from other situations, like panic, happiness...they can be provoked with proper stimulation at the right places.
And that is not something someone just said, or write. It comes from months and months of studies, of observations, of analysis...thats the way science works.
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Can you imagine two "intellectual" atheist sympathizing with the weak who believe. Than they attack the whole of Christion faith by the hypothetical people they know.You do not know what Christ is in men saved by grace.You have arguments based on ignorant uderstanding and the failures of people I don't know, but you do. Thats not even honest.I could say I once knew a wise atheist but I would have to present him or leave him out of my arguments. God is free. Went! to look for a wise atheist!
You really have no clue, do you ? Matt was a fundamentalist christian for 20 years and was studying to have a ministry when he decided to search for proofs to strenghten his faith that finally leads him to atheism... He surely knows much than you about the bible... Please, call them so that he can destroy your pseudo argument... This book is real because it says so... :/
"A Jewish zombie wants you to eat his flesh and promise to love him forever so he can forgive you so that he can forgive you of made up sins that were a result of a women listening to a talking snake and eating part of a tree!"
Very good point, Matt. Personally, as far as I'm concerned, it should be illegal for anyone under the age of 18 to study religeon, or be taught religeon until that age when they're now fully responsible for their actions and any parent who teaches their children religeon before the age of 18 should be charged with corrupting a minor, as there's no proof that the only way to develope any moral fibre whatsoever can only be done through religeon.
There is no historical, or scientific evidence for Moses, the exodus, the flood or Jesus. There is not a single historian who will cite the bible as a reliable source.
Clearly I must know more about God then you, as I've obviously looked deeper to find that just as every other of the thousands of religions; there is no evidence to support its existence. Not trying to be rude, just frank and honest.
It's not about being arrogant, I would be more than happy to believe in your "God" but the Judeo-Christian god, like any of the thousands of gods through out human history has no basis in fact.
And sorry, your bible is not evidence of any supernatural phenomena.
Let me elaborate on what I said. What I meant was someone more educated than the child. I was going to go with the word "adult" instead and I don't know why I didn't. I never said those who believe in a god are stupid.
Can you prove that Santa Claus doesn't come around every Christmas eve to a child? Well, of course you can......children are more susceptible to actually listening to people who are more educated. Sorry, I thought I had a fair comparison. Nevermind.
There's a difference between the existence of the historical Jesus and the mythical Jesus. There is acceptable evidence for Jesus, the historical figure. However, there is absolutely zero evidence for Jesus, the divine.
Why the fuck would anyone have to provide evidence that he didn't? If YOU make the claim that there was Jesus and that he was God, then YOU provide evidence. We're simply responding to a claim with little to no evidence.
Do you believe in Bigfoot? Aliens visiting Earth? Loch Ness monster?
How about you provide proof that those things don't exist?
They don't have to present evidence that it is false, they are not the ones making the claim.
If I made a claim that the earth's core is made of hot fudge, the burden would be on me to prove that it is, not on disbelievers to prove that it isn't
It's the bible and Christianity that insist that we have no value if god doesn't love us, so if we reject the bible then we reject the idea that we are worthless if we are not the object of a devine plan. Problem solved!
scientist should be willing to search for truth no matter where it may lead. and students of science should always seek truth regardless of religious fervor, intense scrutiny and personal agenda.
i consider myself a Christian scientist. but to the atheist that seek knowledge i say we are going to have to learn to get past elementary criticism and engage in intellectual dialogue if truth is important. because unless you get past elementary mockery, you will only ever be viewed as a scoffer.
scientist should be willing to search for truth no matter where it may lead. and students of science should always seek truth regardless of religious fervor, intense scrutiny and personal agenda.
i consider myself a Christian scientist. but to the atheist that seek knowledge i say we are going to have to learn to get past elementary criticism and engage in intellectual dialogue if truth is important. because unless you get past elementary mockery, you will only ever be viewed as a scoffer.
scientist should be willing to search for truth no matter where it may lead. and students of science should always seek truth regardless of religious fervor, intense scrutiny and personal agenda.
i consider myself a Christian scientist. but to the atheist that seek knowledge i say we are going to have to learn to get past elementary criticism and engage in intellectual dialogue if truth is important. because unless you get past elementary mockery, you will only ever be viewed as a scoffer.
Excuse me? What elementary mockery did I do? I posed an answer... if you are not loved then do something in the world that would receive love.
I think the God of the Bible is immoral. I think anyone looking for God's approval is asking a thug to not beat him up. It all is based upon the evil monster who throws people into lakes of fire if they don't join their club.
I think we need to make THIS WORLD better and not worry about pleasing an immoral monster.
okay. now where getting somewhere. so you say God is immoral. now my response it. what is your point of refrence for morality and evil. what are your standards to what should be moral and not. is your own morality the authority, is the governments morality the authority? or do we make up morality as we see fit?
I am not arrogant to know whether or not there is a higher power. I don't believe that there is, but I find the character of God in the Bible to be a representation of thuggish attitudes of Bronze Age tribes.
Their views on women, slavery, tribalism etc strikes me not as the account of an all knowing God but rather the rationalized justification of conquering tribes. Why would a creator God care what you eat? He'd be too busy with Galaxies and stars
I didn't really answer your question and it is a good one.
My reference point of morality and evil is to avoid doing things that hurt innocent people and make the world a worse place. I dont believe in a divine plan but rather that life is a series of chain reactions one action leads to another and leads to another. Both in science and in behavior. We are happy because of how we react to the events of the day or we are sad because of how we react to other events.
The more positive things we do (helping others, encouraging others, giving tough love) the more positive reactions we send out the world is better and people are happier.
The more negative things we do (hurting others, being prejudiced, causing needless sorrow) the more angry, negativity and hate there is. It has nothing to do with the Government. I want my government to pave roads, keep an army standing, make sure we have decent schools and make sure there isnt pig crap in my food.
well. lets establish that there are conservative and then radical people who push what they believe. you have very conservative Christians and then radical ones. same as atheist. BUT on youtube 90% of the commentary from the athiest according to your standards, cause division, are predudice hurt others and are negative. so why would anyone listen to something like that? i don't see Christians doing that... or am i wrong? are there any athiest videos on here that actually respect opposition?
You seem to assume that atheists are totally self-centered. Atheists don't necessarily live totally for themselves. They live for their country, for their families, for their political cause(s), for their humanitarian cause(s), for the pursuit of knowledge for the enrichment of humankind. Life isn't black and white.
Yeah, you got us. Come on guys, the jig is up, Valu777's caught onto us. We all know that God exists, and we're intentionally defying an entity we believe is powerful enough to create the entire Universe, and can punish us forever in horrible ways, in order to have sex with the elderly and mug hot young women. Hang on..is that...no, that is right. Forgot about that fetish of mine. I'll ask a Priest for help. Priests know all about healthy, non-harmful ways of channeling sexual desire...
By enacting the Law of Excluded Middle, I'm going to present my case that if two possibilites exist and that if one is proven plausibly to be approaching false then the other option is more true.
There is either a God or NO God. Both can NOT be True. Agreed?
How does the NO God position deal with Absolute Truths and thus the Laws of Logic?
Another mis-informed Atheist. What an eye opener about his comment that "Life" has no "Intrinsic" value. For this is his foundational problem. Not only did he mis-characterize Christianity by creating a "Straw-man" argument, but he revealed his own bias in the process.
"Not only did he mis-characterize Christianity by creating a "Straw-man" argument.."
Which part of his comment mischaracterized christianity? I was a catholic for 14 years and his description sounds rather accurate. It may not be as impressive as you have been taught, but that is irrelevant. His description is precise despite being very simplistic.
I take it you are no longer a catholic. However, it was a "Straw-man" argument. I've been a Divinity Student for Years. He's not even come close to understanding what Christianity IS and IS NOT. And for the sounds of it Neither have YOU
Christianity is very simple, yet it is far more complex than you can attempt to imagine.
We are "Saved by Grace" as Christ Died for our Sins. Do you still Accept this?
Anytime a person Creates an argument and then self refutes it is characterized as a Strawman Argument. It is a bad debate tactic and it certainly doesn't prove ones own case when used.
Im well aware of the straw-man argument, and I think it would be better defined as one that misrepresents a position in order to make it appear weaker than it actually is, refutes this misrepresentation of the position, and then concludes that the real position has been refuted.
Like I stated earlier the description of Matt Dillahuntys statement may not be as flattering as you would like, it is however an accurate depiction.
Actually I have understood, and that is why I am no longer a christian. There are people out there who will state that you don't really understand as well. Who am I to believe?
"Do you still Accept this?"
I don't think I ever really accepted it. I was a child when I realized that christianity didn't make sense.
so know that you are an Adult, do you still reason as a child?
What part of Christianity convinced you as a child that God did not exist? What part didn't sit well with your early development that you have now carried over as an Adult.
Many people have ingrained "Pre-supositions" and until we examine these in detail we can usually never break out of the Errors that we create for ourselves. And this also goes for Christians. There are at times Bad Doctrines that surface.
No, I have simply built upon that initial understanding and have only strengthened my skepticism.
"What part of Christianity convinced you as a child that God did not exist?"
Actually it was the world religions course I took in my catholic high school that made me realize that no one religion was correct. You are now misquoting me. I never stated that I was convinced that god did not exist at that early age.
"What part didn't sit well with your early development"
There wasn't just one part that didn't sit well with me, but rather a conglomeration of reasons (i.e. the theft of rituals from pagan religions, the false premise of an all loving all powerful god, and the picking and choosing of which books to allow into the bible just to name a few).
I have to my satisfaction, and it will take something along the lines of a global presentation (power point in the sky would suffice) of god to the world to change my mind; something along the line of evidentiary significance.
"we can usually never break out of the Errors that we create for ourselves."
An education helped me in that aspect. Once I realized there were natural explanations for most things in the world, I no longer needed a belief in a supernatural being. It is only a matter of time before god no longer has gaps to hide inside.
I am sorry, but life on the cosmic scale really does have no intrinsic value. The universe does not give two shits about us. There are any number of natural catastrophes that could render us non-existent in mere seconds.
But atheists do not wallow in misery over this notion as Christians seem to when confronted with it. Rather we realize just how much more precious and fragile life is and try to relish every moment.
The Atheists will get their Eternal wish and spend their eternal life "Without God". It will not matter to any Christian's either for the choice an atheist makes. God gave Humans free will.
Since God is far above his creation in ALL things, I choose God. Now finding him and knowing him is that much easier.
I'll bow on my knees and proclaim "O Lord Thy Will be done".
Atheists will see God and proclaim "My will be done" and the Lord's reply will be "So Be it, Be gone from this Place"
Freewill? Believe in me and obey my will or burn for eternity. Nice options.
You live in a fairy tale world, where you get to feel superior to those that haven't discovered the "secret." What a petty human characteristics you have projected onto the universe.
"I take it that EVEN if God showed you His Rules you'd still Rebel given "Free Will" Correct?"
There has never been a single verifiable supernatural event in all of human history. All other possibilities would need to be discredited before I believed God was talking to me. An alien race beaming this vision into my brain is more plausible than God since we know technologically advanced intelligent life arose on at least one planet.
then if you hold that life has no intrinsic value. Then do you hold that "Death" is "Greater" than "Life"? You can be rendered non-existent by taking your own life at any time.
That's just silly. I just finished telling you that my life has meaning to me. It has no meaning to the ebola virus, or small pox, however. I don't want my life to end because that's what it is, the end.
It is you who thinks there is a great reward of an eternal life with a magic sky nanny. Why aren't you running in front of a bus to join Jesus?
That "Magic Sky Nanny" exists in 3 Divine Persons, of which I have experienced the power of the 3rd Person - The Holy Spirit. By him, I know the Second Person, who walked this earth and Died and Rose again. People witnessed this FACT. Through Christ we know the Father.
so yes, life has GREAT Intrinsic Value. More than we both shall ever know.
There are those Christians who call worshiping the trinity blasphemous. When you Christians can actually agree on any one point, maybe the rest of us will pay some attention.
Yes there are many disagreements among Christians. However, you'll find that Christians are United on Critical Doctrines. Yes many will argue over certain lesser doctrines and this does cause an outsider some grief. Christians also have had False and Bad Doctrines that it has taken years to undo. However the seeds of such teachings are sometimes resurfaced from within certain Faith circles.
I witness from a Foundation quite different as you shall see.
I am not 100% sure of anything. However, I would consider myself a strong atheist in that I don't believe a god exists. I am willing to be proven wrong, though. This burden of proof, of course, is quite large.
For the most part, do you accept that Logic is beyond us humans and that it exists in the mind but is independent of our minds and would exist even if we do not?
However, we as humans have the ability to recognize Absolute Truths and as such the Christians have an Answer for such Truths while the Atheist do NOT.
If God exists and Logic is in the "Mind" of God and thus in the "Mind" of "man", would this be a good foundation to move a strong atheist to just slightly towards being a "weaker" one?
If not, How does an Atheist account for Logic since it exists "Outside" the Universe and isn't present in matter, but exists in our minds?
Remember there are only 2 possibilities, a God or NO God... Both can't be true. Does the existence of Logic move the lever towards one possibility or the other?
You have asked too many probing questions for a youtube style conversation, but I will attempt to answer this one. I do not accept on its face that logic exists outside the universe. There may be other universes in which the laws of physics are different from this one, thus yeilding alternate versions of what we would call logic.
Our God is an AWESOME GOD and HE did give EVERYONE "Free-will"...your choice, His way or Hell's way; hey He's the Creator why shouldn't He call the shots? If it wasn't for Him, you & all your loved ones would not even be alive~
'DO IT MY WAY OR I'LL MAKE YOU WISH YOU WERE NEVER BORN BY SENDING YOU TO HELL!' is not free will. Free will in context of Christianity is a Hobson's choice at best.
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"If it wasn't for Him, you & all your loved ones would not even be alive~"
What about cancer, or small pox, or the plague? He responsible for those too? Let me guess... the fall of Adam, right? Damn that is a lot of suffering for one bite of fruit.
Yes! The have 2 podcasts that are both great. The Atheist Experience, and the Non-Prophets. Get 'em both on your iPod and enjoy your ride to work each morning.
Well look at the mafia, they murder constantly and "magically" wipe their sins away by saying that "Hail Mary" shit and then they return to that life and murder again and again and think they can magically wipe it clean with some stupid phrase.
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ETERNAL LIFE you idiots~you guys are the ones who have no worth..I have never heard two such complete fools ever~I feel sorry for your lost souls...remember this conversation the day you die & see where you wake up on the other side; foolish little boys~ So who Created everything? Darwin? Jesus loves me thank God, and you're right if you don't love him you are going to hell....just wait and see who's ridiculous
Please present evidence that Jesus is anything but dead and a God exists. For that matter, what proof have you that there are things called souls that survive after death?
And apparently you think it's appropriate for a deity to torture people forever because they don't love him. You are as morally deficient as the fictional Bully you choose to worship. Sad.
One more time; SIN & HOLY CANNOT exist together. It's just not possible~ That is why He came to earth as a man and paid the price for our sins so we could exist together. He only requires that you believe. He loves you that much, just believe. No more 10 comandments, only 2, 1.)To love God with all your heart, soul, mind & strength 2.) To love ALL others as you also love yourself because we are created in His image) if you don't get this, you never will.God have mercy on your soul~ He's the Boss
Oh yeah, it's very sad that I don't actively have an imaginary friend named Jesus and choose to subscribe to reality instead. I'm just all broken up about assessing what I believe in by using critical thinking skills instead of utilizing blind hope (faith) to believe in a deity that there's no tangible proof for other then scribblings of ancient men. It's a crying shame that I didn't cling to delusion just so that I could feel as if I had absolute answers, even if they were false.
We don't have to wait long to see who is ridiculous. It is you with statements like "So who created everything, Darwin?"
How do you know any of the things are true you so vehemently assert? What kind of just God chooses to love only some of his children? I have unconditional love for my children and I am only a man. Your god is worse than any devil.
Like it or not, this is GOD'S ball game; HE calls the shots. He created you, your children, and all life~ Who are you or anyone to question God Almighty? If you'd read the Bible you might understand some of the questions you ask. Bottom line, it is IMPOSSIBLE for sin & Holy to exist together~ That is why He came down Himself as a man and showed His love to all the world by dying for you & me & every human to make a way for sin to be cast out so we can exist, FOREVER with HIM ,without sin~
I have read the bible and came out an atheist on the other end. I know the myth of Jesus perfectly well - believe in him or burn for eternity. I asked you evidence of what you believe and you preached at me. Please don't bother to reply if that's all you are going to do again.
Last reply, I promise~ I feel sorry for your lost soul...no more preaching and no need to "prove" anything to "YOU"...God Himself could be standing right in your face & you would still deny HIM~My evidence is within my heart & soul and it is obvious that you are a closed minded, prideful individual,that refuses to live any way except your own; that is breaking your Creator's heart~ "Get out from amoung them", Jesus told us, His followers and that is exactly what I am doing in your case. Goodbye~
You are a terrible christian, 1st Peter 3:15 states you have to be willing to give evidence of your belief with "gentleness and respect" and you've completely ignored that.
Just because you feel something and then decide what to attribute that feeling to God does not make it evidence for a God. Emotion is a terrible way to differentiate fact from fiction because we all know it can easily mislead us. They didn't come up with the saying 'The mind sees what the heart wants' for nothing.
This "truth" you speak of is nothing more than a way for Christians to feel superior to everyone else as demonstrated above.
Christianity: Willful ignorance of the real world combined with stunning arrogance, and yet you call me prideful. How can I live any other way but my own? Some would call that genuine, but not you. You need purpose to come from a made up external authority, and then look down on others who dont follow suit. Can you not see this?
So might equals right and one should never question those whom are more powerful than you. You really sound like you worship authority rather than a deity.
GOD LOVES ALL of HIS children. My God(and yours;like it not) is LOVE~ You people just don't get it; mainly because you choose to worship yourself instead. Sin& Holy CANNOT exist together; it's impossible. There are many things your finte mind could NEVER understand what our infinite God has planned~ He NEVER intended for ANY human to go to hell. Hell was created for satan & his demons. He came down & made a way to wash the sin away that we were all born with so we could be with Him~Your choice~
Wheather that statement, "Sin & Holy can NOT exist together" is "meaningless" to atheists or not does NOT take away from the TRUTH of the statement.That's your problem if you feel that way, but I will NEVER stop speaking the truth just because you don't want to hear it~ Ignore it then~ The truth is no less truthful because you don't like it~ Nope, I will NEVER stop speaking the TRUTH~ One more time: SIN & HOLY COULD NEVER, EVER, NEVER, EVER, EXIST TOGETHER,EVER~
Way to not judge me on my channel page. Real fucking Christian of you... idiot. It's like you couldn't wait to contradict yourself. How many other beliefs of yours do you contradict on a daily basis?
Secondly, what do you even mean? If you translate "sin and holy" into words that actually make sense (like good and evil, etc.) I can show you how they exist together all the time.
I guess it's a good thing that I believe sin was a man made construct used to control the populace then. Oh yeah, I don't think anything is 'holy' ether. It's a word that we constructed to describe something some people believe is sacred. It doesn't however, mean that it actually has any value apart from the sentimental value distributed by those whom actually believe in it.
If your God didn't intend for humans to go to hell then they wouldn't. It really is that simple. Saying otherwise is admitting to the idea that your God is not all powerful and doesn't make the rules. Even if hell wasn't made for mankind, what sort of being would create a place of eternal torment at all? Forcing others to undergo eternal suffering is a cruel and sadistic action. The fact that your god would quite willingly engage in such a vile practice doesn't portray him as good or loving.
Most Americans are sheep & believe what ever anyone of authority tells them... you are raised to believe in your religion regardless of zero proof that it exists. from the time you were born into your family belief system. They cant look at at it objectively because it would tell them that their whole life was wasted in believing something made up.. Most people cant cope with that truth.
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Because I am a Christian, that is I believe that Jesus Christ died for my sins and the Bible tells me that I am no longer to live according to the principles of this world, even though I live here physically I am living to a completely higher and different standard. I understand that as a human being I cannot please God except for my love and belief in him, I am to glorify him with my life.
It's human vanity (and maybe a little fear) that makes people unable to accept that death is the end and that nothing we do has eternal significance. This is why religion will always be with s as long as humans are the way we are.
Right on. It's a mystery to me how religious people can unashamedly demand more than the life their parents gave them. You've conscious for a brief moment in an eternity of non-existence...and you want more?! And in the process often sell out their dignity and make complete asses of themselves, of course!
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God exists, that's the accepted claim by the majority of people, you want to challenge that, bring the evidence, the burden of proof is on YOU. Some narrow minded atheist proposed the wrong notion that atheism doesn't require evidence and many gullible atheists had run to foolishly embrace it. Philosophically the burden of proof is in the argument challenging the establishment. What evidence you have that atheism is true? None, zero, nada. Open your eyes, you're being deceived by an evil cult.
dejesusluisx 4 months ago
I've heard a better version: "Christianity: The belief that a cosmic jewish zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree... yeah, makes perfect sanse"
AntiMatterWave 6 months ago
Our lives can seem difficult. Our minds are a way to escape to or invent a better place such as an after life and down the road happiness. We have struggled for our entire existence. It is engrained into our psyche. Today we live better than kings and queens of old. We have to give thanks to ourselves and science and enjoy life now. There is no hell so that should make you very happy.
baxtar1963 6 months ago
Well Jesus said we would take in on the chin for our beliefs so this is par for the course. Keep watching!
Wildcard120 1 year ago
Matt beleives it's Christian to think you can do anything you want and still be forgiven because he belonged to a denomination which beleived in Eternal Security. This is a false doctrine.
randalflaggsghost 1 year ago
No, that's not Christianity.
randalflaggsghost 1 year ago
the brains of christ, broken for you. nnnnnggggrrrraghhghghghg
CntrBrdr 1 year ago
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there is one god/divine/the source try meditation and connect with your inner guides/angels activate your chakras reserch your etheric body! you are the light and we are all ONE & WE ARE THE ONES WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE THE ANGELS YOU ARE THE GODS PEACE LOVE AND LIGHT from rob841
rob841 1 year ago
do you believe in love?
why do you believe in love?
where is the evidence that love exists?...yet you believe it does?..even still you 'know' it does.
sallyann11691 1 year ago
@sallyann11691 Love is a state of mind caused by the chemicals and electric impulses that happend in the brain, which is influenced by the information provided by our senses. Basicaly its not much different (in the way it works) from other situations, like panic, happiness...they can be provoked with proper stimulation at the right places.
And that is not something someone just said, or write. It comes from months and months of studies, of observations, of analysis...thats the way science works.
bfahren 1 year ago 3
@sallyann11691 Love manifests itself in actions, it is demonstrable, that is how we know it exists.
RichieJohnSauls 1 year ago
@RichieJohnSauls Yes, and God, not so much.
VerboseMinimalist 11 months ago
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Can you imagine two "intellectual" atheist sympathizing with the weak who believe. Than they attack the whole of Christion faith by the hypothetical people they know.You do not know what Christ is in men saved by grace.You have arguments based on ignorant uderstanding and the failures of people I don't know, but you do. Thats not even honest.I could say I once knew a wise atheist but I would have to present him or leave him out of my arguments. God is free. Went! to look for a wise atheist!
polopowers1 2 years ago
why don't you phone in if you think you have apoint to make
artyfarty2 2 years ago 4
wiil do
polopowers1 2 years ago
You really have no clue, do you ? Matt was a fundamentalist christian for 20 years and was studying to have a ministry when he decided to search for proofs to strenghten his faith that finally leads him to atheism... He surely knows much than you about the bible... Please, call them so that he can destroy your pseudo argument... This book is real because it says so... :/
Acrimonator 2 years ago 2
"A Jewish zombie wants you to eat his flesh and promise to love him forever so he can forgive you so that he can forgive you of made up sins that were a result of a women listening to a talking snake and eating part of a tree!"
VarialProductions 2 years ago 32
@VarialProductions
And Snake was Nazi Zombie.
twooffour 10 months ago
History is not science, there's absolutely no **scientific** evidence for our whole history.
OneStonedBastard 2 years ago
i guess you are, bud
junkrocker 2 years ago 3
Sure there is, you can prove that a few ppl existed, you can get thier dental cards and check corpses
AroArgumentum 2 years ago
Very good point, Matt. Personally, as far as I'm concerned, it should be illegal for anyone under the age of 18 to study religeon, or be taught religeon until that age when they're now fully responsible for their actions and any parent who teaches their children religeon before the age of 18 should be charged with corrupting a minor, as there's no proof that the only way to develope any moral fibre whatsoever can only be done through religeon.
berner 2 years ago 5
Not really, a Buddhist or a Taoist would anxiously look forward to being able to focus their mind into absolute nothingness.
Kravis63 2 years ago
There is no historical, or scientific evidence for Moses, the exodus, the flood or Jesus. There is not a single historian who will cite the bible as a reliable source.
johnd94 2 years ago 30
@johnd94 It creates much more problems to historians the no existence of Jesus. He existed, although his divinity, of course, is questionable.
Fangalatic 1 year ago
@johnd94 Well, there ARE biased historians. haah.
pythor2 11 months ago
@pythor2 and there are unbiased historians. neither kind are going to accept the bible as a reliable source
AntiMatterWave 6 months ago
@johnd94 gee... i don't know that i think a historian named flavius Josephus and tactitus have a good reference to Jesus. The flood well, there is.
INYO121277 4 months ago
Clearly I must know more about God then you, as I've obviously looked deeper to find that just as every other of the thousands of religions; there is no evidence to support its existence. Not trying to be rude, just frank and honest.
NHFandHFP 2 years ago 6
So there was a Mohammed but Islam is still not true? Why not?
NHFandHFP 2 years ago
Yeah! Just like the Qur'an! But..... if that's correct then, both are true? Or the more likely option.. Neither are true. Do you see the dilemma?
NHFandHFP 2 years ago
People choose not to believe in God because there's no reason to.
NHFandHFP 2 years ago 2
I never said histrorical documentation is not evidence, unless you're talking about what someone else posted
fenian123 2 years ago
It's not about being arrogant, I would be more than happy to believe in your "God" but the Judeo-Christian god, like any of the thousands of gods through out human history has no basis in fact.
And sorry, your bible is not evidence of any supernatural phenomena.
fenian123 2 years ago
Let me elaborate on what I said. What I meant was someone more educated than the child. I was going to go with the word "adult" instead and I don't know why I didn't. I never said those who believe in a god are stupid.
insanesugarpain 2 years ago
Can you prove that Santa Claus doesn't come around every Christmas eve to a child? Well, of course you can......children are more susceptible to actually listening to people who are more educated. Sorry, I thought I had a fair comparison. Nevermind.
insanesugarpain 2 years ago
And you know that... how?
Odelpex 2 years ago
There's a difference between the existence of the historical Jesus and the mythical Jesus. There is acceptable evidence for Jesus, the historical figure. However, there is absolutely zero evidence for Jesus, the divine.
bronx43 2 years ago 2
Why the fuck would anyone have to provide evidence that he didn't? If YOU make the claim that there was Jesus and that he was God, then YOU provide evidence. We're simply responding to a claim with little to no evidence.
Do you believe in Bigfoot? Aliens visiting Earth? Loch Ness monster?
How about you provide proof that those things don't exist?
bronx43 2 years ago
Evidence for...?
bronx43 2 years ago
They don't have to present evidence that it is false, they are not the ones making the claim.
If I made a claim that the earth's core is made of hot fudge, the burden would be on me to prove that it is, not on disbelievers to prove that it isn't
fenian123 2 years ago
It's the bible and Christianity that insist that we have no value if god doesn't love us, so if we reject the bible then we reject the idea that we are worthless if we are not the object of a devine plan. Problem solved!
AbbeyNormal 2 years ago 2
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scientist should be willing to search for truth no matter where it may lead. and students of science should always seek truth regardless of religious fervor, intense scrutiny and personal agenda.
i consider myself a Christian scientist. but to the atheist that seek knowledge i say we are going to have to learn to get past elementary criticism and engage in intellectual dialogue if truth is important. because unless you get past elementary mockery, you will only ever be viewed as a scoffer.
goldgoku3264 2 years ago
You either live for your fellow man or you live for God. Living for God is the far more selfish option.
ArchhereticK 2 years ago 4
i don't dissagree that people around you can love you.. but i see them taking a positive and giving their own personal excuse for why it's not need.
the real question is, where will you go when no one loves you?
goldgoku3264 2 years ago
DO something.
Make an effort to make the World better...
Help someone who needs help.
Adopt a child or help clean up a neighbor hood or do something selfless... then people will love you
And if that isn't enough for the Evil jesus Monster, then f--- him.
boyinthedrain 2 years ago
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scientist should be willing to search for truth no matter where it may lead. and students of science should always seek truth regardless of religious fervor, intense scrutiny and personal agenda.
i consider myself a Christian scientist. but to the atheist that seek knowledge i say we are going to have to learn to get past elementary criticism and engage in intellectual dialogue if truth is important. because unless you get past elementary mockery, you will only ever be viewed as a scoffer.
goldgoku3264 2 years ago
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evoloution / atheist is an excuse to run from GOD. To quell the GUILT from SIN
To get a licence to SIN LUST RIPOFF ppl
GREEDY SELFISH ppl love evoloution and are athiests.Praise his mighty name the LORD JESUS CHRIST the saviour of the world
there is 2 ways in life
the way of life
the way of death
A . serve GOD =Die and LIVE (smart)
B. serve SELF =Die and DIE
ARE YOU SAVED? (CHOSE LIFE)
Hell is real all liers take their part in the lake of fire (are you one of those people?)
valu777 2 years ago
We appreciate that you think that by threatening us with eternal fiery torment you are somehow doing the "Right thing".
But I think you'll find that your obnoxious approach serves to drive away any potential recruits to your way of life.
Thus damning those who you may actually have listened to a sane a reasoned argument.
Are you working for Lucifer or something? You and people of your kind are all that is wrong with the world.
manchester26m 2 years ago 7
scientist should be willing to search for truth no matter where it may lead. and students of science should always seek truth regardless of religious fervor, intense scrutiny and personal agenda.
i consider myself a Christian scientist. but to the atheist that seek knowledge i say we are going to have to learn to get past elementary criticism and engage in intellectual dialogue if truth is important. because unless you get past elementary mockery, you will only ever be viewed as a scoffer.
goldgoku3264 2 years ago
Excuse me? What elementary mockery did I do? I posed an answer... if you are not loved then do something in the world that would receive love.
I think the God of the Bible is immoral. I think anyone looking for God's approval is asking a thug to not beat him up. It all is based upon the evil monster who throws people into lakes of fire if they don't join their club.
I think we need to make THIS WORLD better and not worry about pleasing an immoral monster.
boyinthedrain 2 years ago
okay. now where getting somewhere. so you say God is immoral. now my response it. what is your point of refrence for morality and evil. what are your standards to what should be moral and not. is your own morality the authority, is the governments morality the authority? or do we make up morality as we see fit?
goldgoku3264 2 years ago
Keep in mind I am saying "God of the Bible"
I am not arrogant to know whether or not there is a higher power. I don't believe that there is, but I find the character of God in the Bible to be a representation of thuggish attitudes of Bronze Age tribes.
Their views on women, slavery, tribalism etc strikes me not as the account of an all knowing God but rather the rationalized justification of conquering tribes. Why would a creator God care what you eat? He'd be too busy with Galaxies and stars
boyinthedrain 2 years ago
I didn't really answer your question and it is a good one.
My reference point of morality and evil is to avoid doing things that hurt innocent people and make the world a worse place. I dont believe in a divine plan but rather that life is a series of chain reactions one action leads to another and leads to another. Both in science and in behavior. We are happy because of how we react to the events of the day or we are sad because of how we react to other events.
boyinthedrain 2 years ago
The more positive things we do (helping others, encouraging others, giving tough love) the more positive reactions we send out the world is better and people are happier.
The more negative things we do (hurting others, being prejudiced, causing needless sorrow) the more angry, negativity and hate there is. It has nothing to do with the Government. I want my government to pave roads, keep an army standing, make sure we have decent schools and make sure there isnt pig crap in my food.
boyinthedrain 2 years ago
well. lets establish that there are conservative and then radical people who push what they believe. you have very conservative Christians and then radical ones. same as atheist. BUT on youtube 90% of the commentary from the athiest according to your standards, cause division, are predudice hurt others and are negative. so why would anyone listen to something like that? i don't see Christians doing that... or am i wrong? are there any athiest videos on here that actually respect opposition?
goldgoku3264 2 years ago
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woops, i accidently put a thumbs down.
but i see your point. either you live for yourself. or you live for God.
i know how easy it is to live for only the things i want. but at the end you will say, i missed out on something wonderfull God had for me.
goldgoku3264 2 years ago
You seem to assume that atheists are totally self-centered. Atheists don't necessarily live totally for themselves. They live for their country, for their families, for their political cause(s), for their humanitarian cause(s), for the pursuit of knowledge for the enrichment of humankind. Life isn't black and white.
encliticcopula 2 years ago 5
Yeah, you got us. Come on guys, the jig is up, Valu777's caught onto us. We all know that God exists, and we're intentionally defying an entity we believe is powerful enough to create the entire Universe, and can punish us forever in horrible ways, in order to have sex with the elderly and mug hot young women. Hang on..is that...no, that is right. Forgot about that fetish of mine. I'll ask a Priest for help. Priests know all about healthy, non-harmful ways of channeling sexual desire...
MrCommentingisfun 2 years ago 4
(valu77) Your Joking right?
Jahkillian 2 years ago
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the people in the video are Wrong
there Not Stupid
there just Wrong
if my Value is Differnt from them
How about i Rape the Too People would that be Right
libbyandtai 3 years ago
Who said anything about different values? Are you a rapist?
SnurgyBob 3 years ago
Being wrong is essentially being stupid.
Example: "There" in your context and said as "They're". Some, in this case, would consider you stupid.
doctaword 3 years ago
The people in this video are right
THEY'RE not stupid
THEY'RE right.
Maybe if you get an education, you can be too!
simsi1616 2 years ago
Is english your first language?
MrPlaid81 2 years ago
4thththed
YellingSilently 3 years ago
Thirded. Im sure there must be a spot on late night TV somewhere? Its an international hit now.
manchester26m 3 years ago
'Atheist Experience' is a local Austin public access show... airing every Sunday from 4:30 - 6:30 pm.
Yet another example of how Austin is the greatest place to live. :)
IaoGawd 2 years ago
Not much good if you dont get public access! All hail Youtube!
I had the impression that Texas and esp Austin were quite red and fundamentalist?
manchester26m 2 years ago
I second that motion... !!
cheverepana1 3 years ago
This show really needs to be on national television.
BananaHurricane 3 years ago 8
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Putting aside worldly desires = Holiness
The ways of Christ are right.
Here is what you should do: Look up doomsday, planet x, world government, conspiracies, etc.. You will see the beast's system.
Look at the world and people through a creator's eyes.
Look at humans (Fallen Angels) through a frightened animal's eyes. (Pretty Scary.)
Decide whether you would take the mark of the beast.
Take these things to heart. Especially the "viewing it through other eyes."
koryk1 3 years ago
I took your advice and looked at humans (Fallen Angels) through a frightened animal's eyes. I can confirm that it was Pretty Scary.
magicponyrides 3 years ago
god, why dont you christians watch these videos and learn something instead of ignoring them, and preaching to us. fuck off right winger!
str33twarrior22 3 years ago 8
what the hell ever gave you the idea that humans were fallen angels? im not even religious and i know your damn book better then you. cmon, wake up.
abassett22 3 years ago 2
Can two computers "Argue" for the Existence of a "Programmer"? If so, how would they go about it?
This is analogous to God (the Programmer) being outside the Universe (the computers). Yet somehow "Inside" the Universe.
How might we go about discovering such "inside" properties in order to determine those "Outside" ones?
jlcopp3915 3 years ago
By enacting the Law of Excluded Middle, I'm going to present my case that if two possibilites exist and that if one is proven plausibly to be approaching false then the other option is more true.
There is either a God or NO God. Both can NOT be True. Agreed?
How does the NO God position deal with Absolute Truths and thus the Laws of Logic?
jlcopp3915 3 years ago
Another mis-informed Atheist. What an eye opener about his comment that "Life" has no "Intrinsic" value. For this is his foundational problem. Not only did he mis-characterize Christianity by creating a "Straw-man" argument, but he revealed his own bias in the process.
jlcopp3915 3 years ago
"Not only did he mis-characterize Christianity by creating a "Straw-man" argument.."
Which part of his comment mischaracterized christianity? I was a catholic for 14 years and his description sounds rather accurate. It may not be as impressive as you have been taught, but that is irrelevant. His description is precise despite being very simplistic.
tribidemp 3 years ago
tribidemp,
I take it you are no longer a catholic. However, it was a "Straw-man" argument. I've been a Divinity Student for Years. He's not even come close to understanding what Christianity IS and IS NOT. And for the sounds of it Neither have YOU
Christianity is very simple, yet it is far more complex than you can attempt to imagine.
We are "Saved by Grace" as Christ Died for our Sins. Do you still Accept this?
jlcopp3915 3 years ago
"tribidemp, I take it you are no longer a catholic."
You have guessed correctly.
"However, it was a "Straw-man" argument."
Not really, if anything it was an over simplification, and perhaps a disrespectful, characterization of the belief.
"I've been a Divinity Student for Years."
Matt studied to be a Baptist minister.
tribidemp 3 years ago
tribidemp,
Anytime a person Creates an argument and then self refutes it is characterized as a Strawman Argument. It is a bad debate tactic and it certainly doesn't prove ones own case when used.
jlcopp3915 3 years ago
Im well aware of the straw-man argument, and I think it would be better defined as one that misrepresents a position in order to make it appear weaker than it actually is, refutes this misrepresentation of the position, and then concludes that the real position has been refuted.
Like I stated earlier the description of Matt Dillahuntys statement may not be as flattering as you would like, it is however an accurate depiction.
tribidemp 3 years ago
"And for the sounds of it Neither have YOU"
Actually I have understood, and that is why I am no longer a christian. There are people out there who will state that you don't really understand as well. Who am I to believe?
"Do you still Accept this?"
I don't think I ever really accepted it. I was a child when I realized that christianity didn't make sense.
tribidemp 3 years ago
Tribidemp,
so know that you are an Adult, do you still reason as a child?
What part of Christianity convinced you as a child that God did not exist? What part didn't sit well with your early development that you have now carried over as an Adult.
Many people have ingrained "Pre-supositions" and until we examine these in detail we can usually never break out of the Errors that we create for ourselves. And this also goes for Christians. There are at times Bad Doctrines that surface.
jlcopp3915 3 years ago
"do you still reason as a child?"
No, I have simply built upon that initial understanding and have only strengthened my skepticism.
"What part of Christianity convinced you as a child that God did not exist?"
Actually it was the world religions course I took in my catholic high school that made me realize that no one religion was correct. You are now misquoting me. I never stated that I was convinced that god did not exist at that early age.
tribidemp 3 years ago
"What part didn't sit well with your early development"
There wasn't just one part that didn't sit well with me, but rather a conglomeration of reasons (i.e. the theft of rituals from pagan religions, the false premise of an all loving all powerful god, and the picking and choosing of which books to allow into the bible just to name a few).
[Many people have ingrained "Pre-supositions"]
I did as well, until I became skeptical.
tribidemp 3 years ago
"and until we examine these in detail"
I have to my satisfaction, and it will take something along the lines of a global presentation (power point in the sky would suffice) of god to the world to change my mind; something along the line of evidentiary significance.
tribidemp 3 years ago
"we can usually never break out of the Errors that we create for ourselves."
An education helped me in that aspect. Once I realized there were natural explanations for most things in the world, I no longer needed a belief in a supernatural being. It is only a matter of time before god no longer has gaps to hide inside.
tribidemp 3 years ago 2
I am sorry, but life on the cosmic scale really does have no intrinsic value. The universe does not give two shits about us. There are any number of natural catastrophes that could render us non-existent in mere seconds.
But atheists do not wallow in misery over this notion as Christians seem to when confronted with it. Rather we realize just how much more precious and fragile life is and try to relish every moment.
raytheist 3 years ago
The Atheists will get their Eternal wish and spend their eternal life "Without God". It will not matter to any Christian's either for the choice an atheist makes. God gave Humans free will.
Since God is far above his creation in ALL things, I choose God. Now finding him and knowing him is that much easier.
I'll bow on my knees and proclaim "O Lord Thy Will be done".
Atheists will see God and proclaim "My will be done" and the Lord's reply will be "So Be it, Be gone from this Place"
jlcopp3915 3 years ago
Freewill? Believe in me and obey my will or burn for eternity. Nice options.
You live in a fairy tale world, where you get to feel superior to those that haven't discovered the "secret." What a petty human characteristics you have projected onto the universe.
raytheist 3 years ago
raytheist,
there is no "secrets" in christianity. Also don't pin the "fairytale" thing.
I take it that EVEN if God showed you His Rules" you'd still Rebel given "Free Will" Correct?
jlcopp3915 3 years ago
"don't pin the "fairytale" thing."
Talking snake in a garden, Jonah and the whale, world wide flood, animals on an ark...
Feel free to stop me anytime.
raytheist 3 years ago
"I take it that EVEN if God showed you His Rules you'd still Rebel given "Free Will" Correct?"
There has never been a single verifiable supernatural event in all of human history. All other possibilities would need to be discredited before I believed God was talking to me. An alien race beaming this vision into my brain is more plausible than God since we know technologically advanced intelligent life arose on at least one planet.
raytheist 3 years ago
"I take it that EVEN if God showed you His Rules" you'd still Rebel given "Free Will" Correct?"
I'd certainly give more credence to his existence, or commit myself for psychological evaluation.
tribidemp 3 years ago
raytheist,
I take it that you'd call Jesus a "Liar" correct? If Jesus claimed he was the "Son of God" and he is NOT then he was a "Liar" correct?
However, the opposite is also plausible and that he was INDEED the "Son of God".
Did Jesus ever Lie?
jlcopp3915 3 years ago
Liar, Lunatic, Lord or Legend. I go with Legend.
raytheist 3 years ago
OK raytheist, I take it you take the Position that Christ was NOT a real Person? correct?
For the sake of your Legend, Did Jesus ever Lie? Were the First Hand accounts of his existence also Legend??
Was the Apostle Paul a Legend as well? He started out as a Top Ranked Anti-Christian and killed many early Christian's.
What might have caused him to change his mind?
He also went to his death believing and was beheaded by the Romans.
Were any of Paul's Miracles mere "Legend" or Lies?
jlcopp3915 3 years ago
Raytheist,
then if you hold that life has no intrinsic value. Then do you hold that "Death" is "Greater" than "Life"? You can be rendered non-existent by taking your own life at any time.
jlcopp3915 3 years ago
That's just silly. I just finished telling you that my life has meaning to me. It has no meaning to the ebola virus, or small pox, however. I don't want my life to end because that's what it is, the end.
It is you who thinks there is a great reward of an eternal life with a magic sky nanny. Why aren't you running in front of a bus to join Jesus?
raytheist 3 years ago
That "Magic Sky Nanny" exists in 3 Divine Persons, of which I have experienced the power of the 3rd Person - The Holy Spirit. By him, I know the Second Person, who walked this earth and Died and Rose again. People witnessed this FACT. Through Christ we know the Father.
so yes, life has GREAT Intrinsic Value. More than we both shall ever know.
jlcopp3915 3 years ago
There are those Christians who call worshiping the trinity blasphemous. When you Christians can actually agree on any one point, maybe the rest of us will pay some attention.
raytheist 3 years ago
I'll table the Doctrine of the Trinity. Yes, there are those that do not understand it.
jlcopp3915 3 years ago
Yes there are many disagreements among Christians. However, you'll find that Christians are United on Critical Doctrines. Yes many will argue over certain lesser doctrines and this does cause an outsider some grief. Christians also have had False and Bad Doctrines that it has taken years to undo. However the seeds of such teachings are sometimes resurfaced from within certain Faith circles.
I witness from a Foundation quite different as you shall see.
jlcopp3915 3 years ago
Raytheist,
ARE you 100% sure of your Choice in a belief in NO God? Would you consider yourself a "Strong" atheist or a "Weak" one?
jlcopp3915 3 years ago
I am not 100% sure of anything. However, I would consider myself a strong atheist in that I don't believe a god exists. I am willing to be proven wrong, though. This burden of proof, of course, is quite large.
raytheist 3 years ago
Raytheist,
Do you understand the 3 fundamental laws of Logic? 1) Law of Identity 2) Law of Non-Contradiction 3) Law of Excluded Middle
Does Logic exist outside of Space, Time, and Matter?
Do you think or know that the Universe is Finite? or is it Infinite?
Has Matter always existed?
How are you on Absolute Truths?
jlcopp3915 3 years ago
For God's sake... I only have 500 characters to respond here. How does this relate to Jesus saving my soul?
raytheist 3 years ago
we can table jesus as well. I'm just laying the foundations for your Proof.
jlcopp3915 3 years ago
You can simplify by stating yes or no.
For the most part, do you accept that Logic is beyond us humans and that it exists in the mind but is independent of our minds and would exist even if we do not?
However, we as humans have the ability to recognize Absolute Truths and as such the Christians have an Answer for such Truths while the Atheist do NOT.
jlcopp3915 3 years ago
I agree logic exists outside of us, sure. But you state that the Christians have an Answer for such Truths. I'm sorry. I never heard a question.
raytheist 3 years ago
If God exists and Logic is in the "Mind" of God and thus in the "Mind" of "man", would this be a good foundation to move a strong atheist to just slightly towards being a "weaker" one?
If not, How does an Atheist account for Logic since it exists "Outside" the Universe and isn't present in matter, but exists in our minds?
Remember there are only 2 possibilities, a God or NO God... Both can't be true. Does the existence of Logic move the lever towards one possibility or the other?
jlcopp3915 3 years ago
You have asked too many probing questions for a youtube style conversation, but I will attempt to answer this one. I do not accept on its face that logic exists outside the universe. There may be other universes in which the laws of physics are different from this one, thus yeilding alternate versions of what we would call logic.
raytheist 3 years ago
Raytheist, Do you accept and understand the 3 laws of Logic I've presented? Do YOU hold them to be ABSOLUTE Truths?
This is very critical. You either do or you don't...
There are others, but we need to deal with these first.
jlcopp3915 3 years ago
fight the jewish zombie cult
lothrazar 3 years ago 2
Our God is an AWESOME GOD and HE did give EVERYONE "Free-will"...your choice, His way or Hell's way; hey He's the Creator why shouldn't He call the shots? If it wasn't for Him, you & all your loved ones would not even be alive~
DianaArmstrongGonzal 3 years ago
'DO IT MY WAY OR I'LL MAKE YOU WISH YOU WERE NEVER BORN BY SENDING YOU TO HELL!' is not free will. Free will in context of Christianity is a Hobson's choice at best.
dawn0293 3 years ago 3
A more precise description would be extortion.
From Wiki: "Extortion, outwresting, or exaction is a criminal offense, which occurs, when a person unlawfully obtains either money, property or services from a person, entity, or institution, through coercion. Refraining from doing harm is sometimes euphemistically called protection. Extortion is commonly practiced by organized crime groups. The actual obtainment of money or property is not required to commit the offense.
BobTKaye 3 years ago
Making a threat of violence or a lawsuit which refers to a requirement of a payment of money or property to halt future violence or lawsuit is sufficient to commit the offense."
BobTKaye 3 years ago
"If it wasn't for Him, you & all your loved ones would not even be alive~"
What about cancer, or small pox, or the plague? He responsible for those too? Let me guess... the fall of Adam, right? Damn that is a lot of suffering for one bite of fruit.
raytheist 3 years ago 5
These guys are fucking incredible!
Antichrist4Life 3 years ago
Yes! The have 2 podcasts that are both great. The Atheist Experience, and the Non-Prophets. Get 'em both on your iPod and enjoy your ride to work each morning.
raytheist 3 years ago
Well look at the mafia, they murder constantly and "magically" wipe their sins away by saying that "Hail Mary" shit and then they return to that life and murder again and again and think they can magically wipe it clean with some stupid phrase.
Viktir666 3 years ago
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ETERNAL LIFE you idiots~you guys are the ones who have no worth..I have never heard two such complete fools ever~I feel sorry for your lost souls...remember this conversation the day you die & see where you wake up on the other side; foolish little boys~ So who Created everything? Darwin? Jesus loves me thank God, and you're right if you don't love him you are going to hell....just wait and see who's ridiculous
DianaArmstrongGonzal 3 years ago
Please present evidence that Jesus is anything but dead and a God exists. For that matter, what proof have you that there are things called souls that survive after death?
The burden of proof is on you.
mjhacker 3 years ago 2
And apparently you think it's appropriate for a deity to torture people forever because they don't love him. You are as morally deficient as the fictional Bully you choose to worship. Sad.
dawn0293 3 years ago 2
One more time; SIN & HOLY CANNOT exist together. It's just not possible~ That is why He came to earth as a man and paid the price for our sins so we could exist together. He only requires that you believe. He loves you that much, just believe. No more 10 comandments, only 2, 1.)To love God with all your heart, soul, mind & strength 2.) To love ALL others as you also love yourself because we are created in His image) if you don't get this, you never will.God have mercy on your soul~ He's the Boss
DianaArmstrongGonzal 3 years ago
Ever think this through? Your God decided to label things as sin and decided what the punishment for those infractions would be.
dawn0293 3 years ago 2
SAD? Sad is your way of thinking, very, very, sad~
DianaArmstrongGonzal 3 years ago
Oh yeah, it's very sad that I don't actively have an imaginary friend named Jesus and choose to subscribe to reality instead. I'm just all broken up about assessing what I believe in by using critical thinking skills instead of utilizing blind hope (faith) to believe in a deity that there's no tangible proof for other then scribblings of ancient men. It's a crying shame that I didn't cling to delusion just so that I could feel as if I had absolute answers, even if they were false.
Sad indeed.
dawn0293 3 years ago 3
We don't have to wait long to see who is ridiculous. It is you with statements like "So who created everything, Darwin?"
How do you know any of the things are true you so vehemently assert? What kind of just God chooses to love only some of his children? I have unconditional love for my children and I am only a man. Your god is worse than any devil.
raytheist 3 years ago
Like it or not, this is GOD'S ball game; HE calls the shots. He created you, your children, and all life~ Who are you or anyone to question God Almighty? If you'd read the Bible you might understand some of the questions you ask. Bottom line, it is IMPOSSIBLE for sin & Holy to exist together~ That is why He came down Himself as a man and showed His love to all the world by dying for you & me & every human to make a way for sin to be cast out so we can exist, FOREVER with HIM ,without sin~
DianaArmstrongGonzal 3 years ago
I have read the bible and came out an atheist on the other end. I know the myth of Jesus perfectly well - believe in him or burn for eternity. I asked you evidence of what you believe and you preached at me. Please don't bother to reply if that's all you are going to do again.
raytheist 3 years ago
Last reply, I promise~ I feel sorry for your lost soul...no more preaching and no need to "prove" anything to "YOU"...God Himself could be standing right in your face & you would still deny HIM~My evidence is within my heart & soul and it is obvious that you are a closed minded, prideful individual,that refuses to live any way except your own; that is breaking your Creator's heart~ "Get out from amoung them", Jesus told us, His followers and that is exactly what I am doing in your case. Goodbye~
DianaArmstrongGonzal 3 years ago
You are a terrible christian, 1st Peter 3:15 states you have to be willing to give evidence of your belief with "gentleness and respect" and you've completely ignored that.
Shame on you as a christian.
markbullimore 3 years ago 2
Just because you feel something and then decide what to attribute that feeling to God does not make it evidence for a God. Emotion is a terrible way to differentiate fact from fiction because we all know it can easily mislead us. They didn't come up with the saying 'The mind sees what the heart wants' for nothing.
dawn0293 3 years ago 2
"I feel sorry for your lost soul."
This "truth" you speak of is nothing more than a way for Christians to feel superior to everyone else as demonstrated above.
Christianity: Willful ignorance of the real world combined with stunning arrogance, and yet you call me prideful. How can I live any other way but my own? Some would call that genuine, but not you. You need purpose to come from a made up external authority, and then look down on others who dont follow suit. Can you not see this?
raytheist 3 years ago 3
So might equals right and one should never question those whom are more powerful than you. You really sound like you worship authority rather than a deity.
dawn0293 3 years ago
GOD LOVES ALL of HIS children. My God(and yours;like it not) is LOVE~ You people just don't get it; mainly because you choose to worship yourself instead. Sin& Holy CANNOT exist together; it's impossible. There are many things your finte mind could NEVER understand what our infinite God has planned~ He NEVER intended for ANY human to go to hell. Hell was created for satan & his demons. He came down & made a way to wash the sin away that we were all born with so we could be with Him~Your choice~
DianaArmstrongGonzal 3 years ago
"Sin& Holy CANNOT exist together"
You do realize this is a MEANINGLESS statement to an atheist, don't you? But that doesn't stop you from saying it over and over... nope.
jussts 3 years ago 2
Wheather that statement, "Sin & Holy can NOT exist together" is "meaningless" to atheists or not does NOT take away from the TRUTH of the statement.That's your problem if you feel that way, but I will NEVER stop speaking the truth just because you don't want to hear it~ Ignore it then~ The truth is no less truthful because you don't like it~ Nope, I will NEVER stop speaking the TRUTH~ One more time: SIN & HOLY COULD NEVER, EVER, NEVER, EVER, EXIST TOGETHER,EVER~
DianaArmstrongGonzal 3 years ago
First off...
"I believe that we should NOT judge others..."
--First sentence in your channel info.
Way to not judge me on my channel page. Real fucking Christian of you... idiot. It's like you couldn't wait to contradict yourself. How many other beliefs of yours do you contradict on a daily basis?
Secondly, what do you even mean? If you translate "sin and holy" into words that actually make sense (like good and evil, etc.) I can show you how they exist together all the time.
jussts 3 years ago
PS: The comments you made on my page shall remain there to demonstrate what a silly person you are.
jussts 3 years ago
I guess it's a good thing that I believe sin was a man made construct used to control the populace then. Oh yeah, I don't think anything is 'holy' ether. It's a word that we constructed to describe something some people believe is sacred. It doesn't however, mean that it actually has any value apart from the sentimental value distributed by those whom actually believe in it.
dawn0293 3 years ago
Oh so close! If you had only put one more capitalized "NEVER" in there you would have converted all of us heathens.
raytheist 3 years ago 2
Oh and don't forget throwing in a few more extra tildes too. You can never have enough of those...
dawn0293 3 years ago 3
If your God didn't intend for humans to go to hell then they wouldn't. It really is that simple. Saying otherwise is admitting to the idea that your God is not all powerful and doesn't make the rules. Even if hell wasn't made for mankind, what sort of being would create a place of eternal torment at all? Forcing others to undergo eternal suffering is a cruel and sadistic action. The fact that your god would quite willingly engage in such a vile practice doesn't portray him as good or loving.
dawn0293 3 years ago
3:30 to 4:00....
EXACTLY.
Very few people understand that this is exactly true.
DeadlyChinchilla 3 years ago
MORE! i need to see more its hillarious, where do the christian people come up whit this stuff, and whats this bible thingy?
FusionNinjin 3 years ago
Most Americans are sheep & believe what ever anyone of authority tells them... you are raised to believe in your religion regardless of zero proof that it exists. from the time you were born into your family belief system. They cant look at at it objectively because it would tell them that their whole life was wasted in believing something made up.. Most people cant cope with that truth.
MasterMark123 3 years ago 4
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Because I am a Christian, that is I believe that Jesus Christ died for my sins and the Bible tells me that I am no longer to live according to the principles of this world, even though I live here physically I am living to a completely higher and different standard. I understand that as a human being I cannot please God except for my love and belief in him, I am to glorify him with my life.
peanutplays 3 years ago
To me, that just sounds really crazy and cultish.
d5gdf56gdfg 3 years ago 2
That's very degrading to yourself.
mjhacker 3 years ago 2
Way to phone it in here on Earth where you get to live the one life we KNOW is real.
raytheist 3 years ago
WHAT? are you smoking dude; your comment makes NO SENSE dahhhhhhhh
DianaArmstrongGonzal 3 years ago
My comment is fine if you know what "phone it in" means. It is an expression that means to do a half-assed job.
I find it sad when someone squanders this life for the fairy tale of the next which is what peanutplays is doing.
raytheist 3 years ago
these guys are awesome, now i only have to decided whether to watch the stream later today or listen to the podcast whilst im out and about
wanderingsociologist 3 years ago
Matt needs to be nationally syndicated.
cidvisions 3 years ago 8
I agree with the sentiment. It would be great to spread the information to a wider audience.
However, national syndication has a tendency to introduce a vast amount of suck into originally good shows.
Balefulmoon 3 years ago
I've got a picture with the Jewish zombie analogy on my computer :P
Kev888 3 years ago 2
It's human vanity (and maybe a little fear) that makes people unable to accept that death is the end and that nothing we do has eternal significance. This is why religion will always be with s as long as humans are the way we are.
destronia123 3 years ago 4
Right on. It's a mystery to me how religious people can unashamedly demand more than the life their parents gave them. You've conscious for a brief moment in an eternity of non-existence...and you want more?! And in the process often sell out their dignity and make complete asses of themselves, of course!
middlebit 3 years ago
"It's a mystery to me how religious people can unashamedly demand more than the life their parents gave them."
Beautifully put!
raytheist