I beleive this was a representation made by Heckler and Koch to show the benefits of their short stroke gas piston system versus the direct impingment system utilized in the colt shown in the video. Never had an issue with direct impingment system, but then again i dont submerse my rifles and shoot them
@bygoran An AK will also blow up, it's a matter of physics nothing else. You shoot an AK that has it's barrel filled with water and there's a good chance it's gonna blow up in your face. Period any gun has this problem weather it's a AK or an AR
Isn't this more of an out of battery failure than a water caused failure? If the pressure is on the upper receiver, then that means the gasses all went behind the chamber rather than forward propelling the bullet out of the barrel. So even in a piston AR this could happen, right?
Although I could see the gas tube being completely filled with water so the second the cartridge goes off the water has enough pressure to unlock the lugs allowing the BCG to move rearwards and the gasses go backwards.
@alexoprel Why Normandy? Why can't we invade Hogwarts or something, I know the military would love to get it's hand on the wand technology, or maybe those beans that taste like someone farted in your mouth.
The problem I have with most western firearms is not accuracy, firepower, or reliability. Its that they look for the perfect weapon and don't consider the cost and ease to.maintain. In WW2 the Germans overall had the better equipment but most of it was expensive and difficult to maintain. The allies (especially Russia and Britain) looked for cheap and easily maintainable equipment for there soldiers. Also a small fact, an M16 costs around $1200 to build while and AK-74 costs $500
@unknownunkownunkown Actually those weapons are only in limited use or are the standard in other countries. In Russia itself the AK-74 is still the standard assault rifle although they are currently looking for a replacement.
@555gangstaman You stupid Call of Duty faggot! This is a REAL GUN, In REAL LIFE, and this is not an M14 Enhanced Battle Rifle, this is an M4 Carbine, dipshit! God I cant stand queers like you. What are you, 8? 9? I bet you have never even shot a real gun before!
@Thelonesniper101 Calm down killer, he may have been joking. He wasn't calling the rifle in the video an M14, he was saying in COD the M14 works under water.
The ar will shoot underwater. I know because I have done it. I am not sure what happened here. All this talk about AK's being better is a bunch of malarkey. The reason an AK can shoot just about anything is because it is put together really sloppy. So it doesn't matter if it is clean or not it will still fire. However the AK will never have the accuracy of an AR. Just as the AR will never have the power of a AK. I have taken down plenty of animals with a .223 at all ranges with just one shot.
@esh325 Yeah, but I have seen plenty of AK's blow up like this while just shooting them. They are stamped out and really aren't made to be reliable. The AR is actually cnc machined and the parts are then fitted to the receiver making it a non disposable weapon. I have shot plenty of AK's and non have had the accuracy of my AR. Maybe I haven't shot the right AK. but to me they seem to be a cheaply made combat rifle. I also do have an AR in .308. Not trying to start an argument.
The funny thing about most of the people commenting on this. This is the "Over the beach test". I am certain that short of other US Marines no one is actually ever going to experience the need to fire their weapon moments after submerging their AR platform weapon. The weapon fails because it is filled with water and a round is fired before the water is allowed to drain from the barrel/ chamber causing an overpressure situation. 8 years in the Corps I never had to...
@speedfreak247 never say never: all forces adapt their drills within the limits of where their equipment can be safely operated by simply avoiding the situations where its likely to fail
@speedfreak247 Yes I do know that this will never never happen in a real combat, but why other weapons can do this things??? I do not want to argue I really want to know what is the diference
@HeretoStay33 Marines, Soldiers and Sailors are trained to deal with this issue at various amphibious schools. (yes Marine Corps, Navy and Army have combatant dive schools)
@HeretoStay33 yes, and it is called the HK 416. Its a cold bore piston operated weapon, sort of a hybrid of a G36 and a M4.
This video is actually half of an over the beach comparison test between and M4 and 416, you can watch the whole thing (with terrible music) here youtube.com/watch?v=vjMH94PuT_I
@speedfreak247 I'm guessing you are just another arm chair want to be You Tube weekend warrior !
If you really had experiance in the millitary you would known the navy seals and some other special units do swim with their M4 and may at a moments need to fire their M4s right out of the water .
So if the M4 blows up with water in it not one special unit of the U.S millitary would be using this weapon !
The over pressure here was done with an over loaded round to blow it up for promotional value.
lol. this mustve been a military issue colt M4 only the worse for our troops. while cops that never will fire they're weapon get automatic jam free rifles.
@DystruktoBoi1 I believe what is going on here has to do with the gun being out of the water(lower pressure environment) and the barrel and chamber being flooded(high pressure). It becomes harder for the gas to escape properly through the barrel causing it to find a different path which is not designed for that type of pressure leading to this failure. The test is rigged because they put it in a circumstance that they know will cause failure.
@cjhatesu Hmmm, you could be right yea, but then any gun would fail like that if the water was in the right spots, I'll bet if I filled the gas tube on my AK47 with water and shot it, the result would be very similar. This is a piece of the new HK model versus Colt, I do have to admit the HK is impressive but they shouldn't need to make colt look bad to show off their weapon.
@DystruktoBoi1 The full video is somewhere on here on YT. He soaks the AK and M4 the same amount of time. I agree the AK could explode but have never seen it happen. They are prob the best built guns ever.
@ehill1536 dude there 70 + years old yah the ak is a great gun and compared to a normal m4 its flawless but seriously we have better guns today that make the ak look like childs play, hell will from sons of guns had his team build a m16 m4 whatever i dont remember thats water proof granted thats some 60 + years after the ak but we can make them that good now a days and the competetors are not as good now a days either
Holy crap, look at all these retards in the comment section "The AK47 never jams, ever!" "The M16 is more accurate hurrr." Both weapons are just as accurate mechanically....neither is more reliable than the other if you keep it clean, like you should any gun. It's all about personal preference. The M16A3 and A4, the M4 and M4A1 or M16A2 would be in use today if they were pieces of shit. Same applies to the AKS74-U, AK74M, RPK, SVD and AKM. If any of you had experience with these guns you'd know.
@DeadOnTheGround wrote, "Holy crap, look at all these retards in the comment section "The AK47 never jams, ever!" "The M16 is more accurate hurrr." Both weapons are just as accurate mechanically....neither is more reliable than the other if you keep it clean, like you should any gun."
Lots of us have plenty of experience with both.
That is why we can say that the average AK is more mechanically reliable under harsh conditions, but also less inherently accurate than the M16.
@forthedefence82 I'm not talking about that, I was referring to the people who only know what they've heard on TV or from playing video games and take it as pure fact. I've never had a reason to use a gun in "harsh conditions" so it's pretty negligible to me, as it would be to most others commenting, but feel the need to rag on one weapon system or another when it's just a matter of person preference. The M16 isn't a Chauchat, and the AK Isn't a Liberator, as most make them out to be.
The newest generation of assault rifles, and their semi-automatic civilian counterparts, seem to be going along way toward blending the best of both worlds.
However, all assault rifles (even the new generation) involve trade-offs.
I prefer the Stoner system (lightweight and accurate to EXTREMELY accurate), but it is a maintenance whore.
I like the AK system due to easier maintenance and better reliability, but it's only "acceptably" accurate.
@shahzadnaeem111 Its a piece of overpriced shit. If you want a real weapon, worth the high price, buy German. If you're smart, you can get 2 really good rifles that perform as well with more stopping power so the M4 is a waste of money and a weak piece of shit.
this is why so many design changes have been implemented own the m16 varriants with its sensativity to debris and the hydrolock issue you have just seen they have coppied some things from the ak now a shorter gas tube with an ak like piston to bolt rather than gas to bolt this has been solved KISS wins again
The gun is not shit. When will you be taking a M4 underwater before battle anyways ?. Yes it needs be cleaned more often,and maintenance should be regular,and jams can be happen however it is still a very accurate weapon wich has almost limitless additions to it that can be made. Calling an M4 shit is just retarded it gets the job done.
@Airsoftingfish I know that. I was just speaking about the average person on here making really poor comments about it,and I can say that probably AT LEAST 80 % of all commenters on this vid are not military,and have no need to speak so poorly about the weapon when they will most likely never operate it in water.
Any tool can get a job done, that doesn't mean however that it's the best tool for the job. M-16's are decent weapons, accurate yes, but more problem inducing than a good weapon should be.
"Yes it needs be cleaned more often,and maintenance should be regular,and jams can be happen however"
@barfingjake Same goes for the UK SA-80A2's....Too much cleaning and servicing needed for a good combat weapon. I can't agree with you more about this ;) There needs to be a new cartridge being used because 5.56/.223 cal army rifles have too many problems and 7.62x51mm NATO weapons ammunition is to heavy to carry large amounts of ;)
Ha, a lot of these comments are quite silly, saying that the gun is shit.
This test is like taking a sledge hammer to a cell phone and saying "See? It's broken now, it must be crap". For the average shooter, this will never happen.
Just goes to show, no matter haw crap it is the Americans will buy it as long as it is made in america and more importantly as long as congress owns shares in the company. And by the way, the AK-47 was only as good as you are all making it out to be 30-35 years ago, I'm not knocking it, its just obsolete.
It is an inherent problem with ALL .22 caliber (.223/5.5mm/5.7mm) rifles that water does not easily drain from the barrel, when a round is chambered.
A barrel thus filled with water, might as well be filled with cement. And firing any weapon with a blocked barrel is just plain stupid.
Every soldier is trained to clear water from the barrel of his weapon, by retracting the bolt, and shaking the weapon, while pointing the muzzle downward.
but i just watched a video of some one fully submerged with an ar15 firing it. and he did it with a glock. and nothing like this happened they both performed perfectly, except the bullets only traveled about 2 feet lol.
It totally cracks me up that so many people thing a gun is reliable because it fires straight out of water.... this video was a HK video promoting their HK 416. It may have fired out of water.. but ask the norweigens about them parts on them freezing and cracking in cold conditions.. Just because a gun fires out of water doesn't mean the parts are superior and the integrity of the weapon will hold up under other conditions... I swear... I think sometimes the internet is the scurge of the earth.
you guys are fucking morons the ak's available here blow asshole and are way overpriced .. any decent ak in the us is at least 600 $ for a few hundred more you can get an AR 10 !!! way better options for optics and the 7.62 nato shits on a 7.62x39
@alienman69 I bought my Saiga 7.62x39 for $299 this year, which is made by Izmash in Russia. If you want to restore to original ak it is not much. I love the rifle and enjoy shooting it
@ArmoredZimpa You are incorrect. The Ak-47 began design in the last year of the war, 1945. In 1946 is was presented for trials as the AK46. After adding a fixed stock in 1947, it was release in limited quantities to a few Soviet armies as the AK47. The 47 stands for the year. AK stands for Avtomat Kalashnikova which translate to Automatic Kalashnikov. Kalashnikov being the designer Mikhail Kalashnikov.
@tadracket How accurate is the Ak in comparison to say an AR-15? For it to be the 'worlds' weapon of choice for the most part there has to be something more to it then what I see. Or is it simply a matter of money and they're easy to produce?
@airraverstaz actually, regardless the reliability factors of the M-16 it is considerably more accurate than the AK-47. See the M-16 versus AK wiki. (apparently I cannot post a link to there on here...) see the ammunition section -- about 1-3 moa compared to 3-5. that writer's source for that portion of the graph is a Russian publication about the AK, by the way.
When moving through a water obstacle with a weapon you must always keep the barrel facing down to create an air pocket in the barrel . The water in the barrel will only be minute and drain well before the weapon has reached the firing position
@MrGerardnl yeah, like the war time P38s that'd go full auto as soon as you dropped the safety, or the G36's that melt with sustained fire, or the Glocks that fire when dropped (or go off in their holster, shooting their carrier in the thigh), or the PPKs that cut your hand when you fire them (improved by Americans)
The HK416 is not much more than an M4A1 with a piston upper instead of a direct impingement, and theirs is merely the most well known, not the only one of that style.
uhm i hope my theory is correct. so,when there is water in the gun it takes in a little space. and when teh gun fires there isn't enough space for the energy to get away? am i right?
Hell, you could've killed a guy with the magazine, judging by its speed XD
FSM1138 20 hours ago
That was horrible. It's easily averted though charging handle back drawn water and shoot. But this is serous stuff dont try that at home.
hishinator 1 day ago
@hishinator Look it can be done with every M4 or AR and not one bad this will happen.
This total BS by the Germans to make their gun look better and the M4 look bad.
I've done this with my 2 ARs with not one bad outcome .
I did blow the top off one AR with an over loaded round that the powder can was marked the wrong powder !
I know clearly by watching that M4 blow what happen by my own AR blowing up .
Water pressure sure did not make that magazine blow out, it was gas pressure that blew it out
Hincesti07 19 hours ago
Hey look, Military Daft Punk.
sxcsKiTzYkitty 1 day ago
its isaac from dead space
maziku 2 days ago
I beleive this was a representation made by Heckler and Koch to show the benefits of their short stroke gas piston system versus the direct impingment system utilized in the colt shown in the video. Never had an issue with direct impingment system, but then again i dont submerse my rifles and shoot them
celebrityimposter 2 days ago
this video scares me well at least the guy in it
xxMRGRENADExx 3 days ago
@bygoran An AK will also blow up, it's a matter of physics nothing else. You shoot an AK that has it's barrel filled with water and there's a good chance it's gonna blow up in your face. Period any gun has this problem weather it's a AK or an AR
SSshane6d9 3 days ago 3
that is why you get AK not that garabage
bygoran 3 days ago
Yep, Russian weapon the best.
25IIIr3v4nIII17 3 days ago
говно
ILJALv 5 days ago
Makes you wonder how people can be so friggin' stupid.
flylooper 6 days ago
look at the mag when he shoots it. It goes as fast as the bullet itself :) LOL
daspartandude08 1 week ago
Isn't this more of an out of battery failure than a water caused failure? If the pressure is on the upper receiver, then that means the gasses all went behind the chamber rather than forward propelling the bullet out of the barrel. So even in a piston AR this could happen, right?
Although I could see the gas tube being completely filled with water so the second the cartridge goes off the water has enough pressure to unlock the lugs allowing the BCG to move rearwards and the gasses go backwards.
ScheerCTS 1 week ago
8 years in the corps never had to.........
never hope they'll have to invade normandy beach again.
lots of : uh oh's will come that day ^^ lol
alexoprel 1 week ago
@alexoprel Why Normandy? Why can't we invade Hogwarts or something, I know the military would love to get it's hand on the wand technology, or maybe those beans that taste like someone farted in your mouth.
broadhead6 1 week ago 2
aka47 is the beast
lento755 1 week ago
fuck m4 m16
lento755 1 week ago
meh, ive seen metal shaving from inside the chamber/receiver in the HK416 after 1000 rounds of full auto.
sry but ill still take the M4 instead.
ViralDoDoBird 1 week ago
must suck crap
garrettdicurley 1 week ago
The problem I have with most western firearms is not accuracy, firepower, or reliability. Its that they look for the perfect weapon and don't consider the cost and ease to.maintain. In WW2 the Germans overall had the better equipment but most of it was expensive and difficult to maintain. The allies (especially Russia and Britain) looked for cheap and easily maintainable equipment for there soldiers. Also a small fact, an M16 costs around $1200 to build while and AK-74 costs $500
toughspitfire 1 week ago
@toughspitfire you realise the russians went past 74 and went up to 200 and then even going back to 15 right?
unknownunkownunkown 1 week ago
@unknownunkownunkown Actually those weapons are only in limited use or are the standard in other countries. In Russia itself the AK-74 is still the standard assault rifle although they are currently looking for a replacement.
toughspitfire 1 week ago
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toughspitfire 1 week ago
FAT SNAKE!?
IHugFatKids13 1 week ago 23
@IHugFatKids13 How is he fat? Compared to all those McDonalds bulldozers running around today he is slim as a model...
KnorpelDelux 4 days ago
The main thing is, RoboCop has found a job. After the third film I really thought it was over for him.
MrVicist 1 week ago
HK, what a load of crap.
drbackjack 1 week ago 2
Was it a Bushmaster? lol
H2Prince 1 week ago
in mw3 u get to pull out a m14 EBR from underwater ant it still works :p
555gangstaman 2 weeks ago
@555gangstaman You stupid Call of Duty faggot! This is a REAL GUN, In REAL LIFE, and this is not an M14 Enhanced Battle Rifle, this is an M4 Carbine, dipshit! God I cant stand queers like you. What are you, 8? 9? I bet you have never even shot a real gun before!
Thelonesniper101 1 week ago
@Thelonesniper101 Calm down killer, he may have been joking. He wasn't calling the rifle in the video an M14, he was saying in COD the M14 works under water.
cyberhendrix 1 week ago
@cyberhendrix What the fuck does that have to do with this video though?
Thelonesniper101 1 week ago
@Thelonesniper101 The video is of a gun being filled with water and being shot?
cyberhendrix 1 week ago
@cyberhendrix Yes but it has nothing to deal with video games
Thelonesniper101 1 week ago
@cyberhendrix yes, thank u, u got what i meant
555gangstaman 1 week ago
@Thelonesniper101 i shot real guns bitch
555gangstaman 1 week ago
@555gangstaman Yet you can't spell. I'm concerned...
Thelonesniper101 1 week ago
The ar will shoot underwater. I know because I have done it. I am not sure what happened here. All this talk about AK's being better is a bunch of malarkey. The reason an AK can shoot just about anything is because it is put together really sloppy. So it doesn't matter if it is clean or not it will still fire. However the AK will never have the accuracy of an AR. Just as the AR will never have the power of a AK. I have taken down plenty of animals with a .223 at all ranges with just one shot.
arreshavoc 2 weeks ago
@arreshavoc It's the design. A nicely made AK will have the same reliability. The AR can have the same power as the AK. The 6.8 SPC,6.5 grendel, etc.
esh325 1 week ago
@esh325 Yeah, but I have seen plenty of AK's blow up like this while just shooting them. They are stamped out and really aren't made to be reliable. The AR is actually cnc machined and the parts are then fitted to the receiver making it a non disposable weapon. I have shot plenty of AK's and non have had the accuracy of my AR. Maybe I haven't shot the right AK. but to me they seem to be a cheaply made combat rifle. I also do have an AR in .308. Not trying to start an argument.
arreshavoc 1 week ago
@esh325 I guess I just want to know why it seems most people prefer the AK. I really don't see any upside to carrying one.
arreshavoc 1 week ago
You need everything water-filled or completely free of water. This is what happens when the barrel is partially emptied...
Aenonar 2 weeks ago
Even airsoft M4's don't do this xD
WolffeGaming 2 weeks ago
Proof it.
thwaits27 2 weeks ago
ak47 enough said
juggaloman479 2 weeks ago
The funny thing about most of the people commenting on this. This is the "Over the beach test". I am certain that short of other US Marines no one is actually ever going to experience the need to fire their weapon moments after submerging their AR platform weapon. The weapon fails because it is filled with water and a round is fired before the water is allowed to drain from the barrel/ chamber causing an overpressure situation. 8 years in the Corps I never had to...
speedfreak247 2 weeks ago 30
@speedfreak247 marines probably wont either >.<
Devourer221 1 week ago
@speedfreak247 never say never: all forces adapt their drills within the limits of where their equipment can be safely operated by simply avoiding the situations where its likely to fail
commandro 1 week ago
@speedfreak247 Thank you for your service.
HappyClipsTV 1 week ago
@speedfreak247 mmmmm Ever heard of Murphey's law....??? Ak can pass this with flying colors...
DexMaster881 1 week ago
@speedfreak247 good point, but it could be a desirable feature for servicemen of the special operations community
ResurectxXx 1 week ago
@speedfreak247 Yes I do know that this will never never happen in a real combat, but why other weapons can do this things??? I do not want to argue I really want to know what is the diference
elmaxidelsur 6 days ago
@speedfreak247 im sure the SEALs have had to in recent years but who knows im sure they have already made a solution to that
HeretoStay33 6 days ago
@HeretoStay33 Marines, Soldiers and Sailors are trained to deal with this issue at various amphibious schools. (yes Marine Corps, Navy and Army have combatant dive schools)
speedfreak247 6 days ago
@speedfreak247 yes they do thanks for the correction
HeretoStay33 4 days ago
@HeretoStay33 yes, and it is called the HK 416. Its a cold bore piston operated weapon, sort of a hybrid of a G36 and a M4.
This video is actually half of an over the beach comparison test between and M4 and 416, you can watch the whole thing (with terrible music) here youtube.com/watch?v=vjMH94PuT_I
davidseholm1 4 days ago
@speedfreak247 Commandos however might be in that situation, in rivers of course...
67621995 3 days ago
@speedfreak247 I'm guessing you are just another arm chair want to be You Tube weekend warrior !
If you really had experiance in the millitary you would known the navy seals and some other special units do swim with their M4 and may at a moments need to fire their M4s right out of the water .
So if the M4 blows up with water in it not one special unit of the U.S millitary would be using this weapon !
The over pressure here was done with an over loaded round to blow it up for promotional value.
Hincesti07 20 hours ago
love how he's like 'wtf?"
mike1220115 2 weeks ago
lol. this mustve been a military issue colt M4 only the worse for our troops. while cops that never will fire they're weapon get automatic jam free rifles.
jabolyn 2 weeks ago
haha it blew the mag out
ktmlover90 2 weeks ago
I need one of those helmets.
cjhatesu 2 weeks ago
funny:
watch?v=0MA1IFKwdAQ&feature=related
seems like they rigged this shit to me
DystruktoBoi1 2 weeks ago
@DystruktoBoi1 I believe what is going on here has to do with the gun being out of the water(lower pressure environment) and the barrel and chamber being flooded(high pressure). It becomes harder for the gas to escape properly through the barrel causing it to find a different path which is not designed for that type of pressure leading to this failure. The test is rigged because they put it in a circumstance that they know will cause failure.
cjhatesu 2 weeks ago
@cjhatesu Hmmm, you could be right yea, but then any gun would fail like that if the water was in the right spots, I'll bet if I filled the gas tube on my AK47 with water and shot it, the result would be very similar. This is a piece of the new HK model versus Colt, I do have to admit the HK is impressive but they shouldn't need to make colt look bad to show off their weapon.
DystruktoBoi1 2 weeks ago
@DystruktoBoi1 The full video is somewhere on here on YT. He soaks the AK and M4 the same amount of time. I agree the AK could explode but have never seen it happen. They are prob the best built guns ever.
ehill1536 2 weeks ago
@ehill1536 hence why I got one of them first instead of the AR, but make no mistake I will own an AR one day too. I love my AK so far though.
DystruktoBoi1 2 weeks ago
@ehill1536 dude there 70 + years old yah the ak is a great gun and compared to a normal m4 its flawless but seriously we have better guns today that make the ak look like childs play, hell will from sons of guns had his team build a m16 m4 whatever i dont remember thats water proof granted thats some 60 + years after the ak but we can make them that good now a days and the competetors are not as good now a days either
slinq 2 weeks ago
@ehill1536 They have a video of a terroist shooting an Ak and it explodes LMAO. shit is hilarious. dude looked scared
popper504 2 weeks ago
i think the magazine was faster than the bullet
dirtfreak661 2 weeks ago
creeper m4!!!!
altimax2000 2 weeks ago
if he carried out submersion drills before firing im sure that wouldnt of happened.
copple1985 3 weeks ago
@copple1985 this was rigged to promote the m416
ThermalSh0ck 2 weeks ago
Why when I want to see a great gun video there are a bunch of fuck wads arguing over what is best?
profsat5 3 weeks ago 2
That's why they use gas tubes more now
xXUSMCGRIFFXx 3 weeks ago
Holy crap, look at all these retards in the comment section "The AK47 never jams, ever!" "The M16 is more accurate hurrr." Both weapons are just as accurate mechanically....neither is more reliable than the other if you keep it clean, like you should any gun. It's all about personal preference. The M16A3 and A4, the M4 and M4A1 or M16A2 would be in use today if they were pieces of shit. Same applies to the AKS74-U, AK74M, RPK, SVD and AKM. If any of you had experience with these guns you'd know.
DeadOnTheGround 3 weeks ago
@DeadOnTheGround Wouldn't be in use today*
DeadOnTheGround 3 weeks ago
@DeadOnTheGround wrote, "Holy crap, look at all these retards in the comment section "The AK47 never jams, ever!" "The M16 is more accurate hurrr." Both weapons are just as accurate mechanically....neither is more reliable than the other if you keep it clean, like you should any gun."
Lots of us have plenty of experience with both.
That is why we can say that the average AK is more mechanically reliable under harsh conditions, but also less inherently accurate than the M16.
forthedefence82 2 weeks ago
@forthedefence82 I'm not talking about that, I was referring to the people who only know what they've heard on TV or from playing video games and take it as pure fact. I've never had a reason to use a gun in "harsh conditions" so it's pretty negligible to me, as it would be to most others commenting, but feel the need to rag on one weapon system or another when it's just a matter of person preference. The M16 isn't a Chauchat, and the AK Isn't a Liberator, as most make them out to be.
DeadOnTheGround 2 weeks ago
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@DeadOnTheGround
I agree.
The newest generation of assault rifles, and their semi-automatic civilian counterparts, seem to be going along way toward blending the best of both worlds.
However, all assault rifles (even the new generation) involve trade-offs.
I prefer the Stoner system (lightweight and accurate to EXTREMELY accurate), but it is a maintenance whore.
I like the AK system due to easier maintenance and better reliability, but it's only "acceptably" accurate.
forthedefence82 2 weeks ago
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@DeadOnTheGround
Then you still have: what caliber (tradeoffs of weight and number of rounds able to be carried).
Etc., etc., etc.
But we agree about gamers & YouTube experts.
forthedefence82 2 weeks ago
duct tape will fix it
agentkapser 3 weeks ago
Secure that mag soldier!
hellsnightmare 3 weeks ago
FRAGGED!!!!!!!
pickymickey 3 weeks ago
this is bullshit .....M16 is better then ak47 in my country ak47 is 300$ and M16 price is $3500
shahzadnaeem111 3 weeks ago
@shahzadnaeem111 Price means nothing. The M16 is a piece of shit and the M4 isn't much better.
bamboo4tameshigiri 3 weeks ago
@bamboo4tameshigiri actually price means something moron.
USSWISCONSIN64 3 weeks ago
@bamboo4tameshigiri ha price is dignity !
shahzadnaeem111 2 weeks ago
@shahzadnaeem111 More like over priced.
bamboo4tameshigiri 2 weeks ago
@bamboo4tameshigiri whatever but hole world are using M16 NATO,BLACKWATER,SWAT,FBI,SECURITY PROVIDE COMPANIES this is time for M16 not for AK47 :)
shahzadnaeem111 2 weeks ago
@shahzadnaeem111 Its a piece of overpriced shit. If you want a real weapon, worth the high price, buy German. If you're smart, you can get 2 really good rifles that perform as well with more stopping power so the M4 is a waste of money and a weak piece of shit.
bamboo4tameshigiri 2 weeks ago
does anyone know what make that upper receive was?
ericdbates 3 weeks ago
@airraverstarz
Ak74 shoots about 2moa
But you talk about accuracy?
Accuracy means nothing if the gun dont function!!
The ak will always function, full of water, cheap steel ammo, dont clean it, rusted shut, no matter what it'll always work!
Thats an ak and thats what all the hype is about!
bullynhoney 3 weeks ago
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DEAD SPACE GUY now is doing weapon test for job
Marcellone86able 3 weeks ago 18
@Marcellone86able Everybody's gotta work. Especially when you games suck.
Kevin113082 2 weeks ago
H&K wins the day
spystyle 4 weeks ago
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OnoaSnake 4 weeks ago
@OnoaSnake no you didnt...
foxvw 3 weeks ago
this is why so many design changes have been implemented own the m16 varriants with its sensativity to debris and the hydrolock issue you have just seen they have coppied some things from the ak now a shorter gas tube with an ak like piston to bolt rather than gas to bolt this has been solved KISS wins again
biggunzcdb 1 month ago
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That sound track lowered my IQ.
crufflerdoug 1 month ago 9
is he in a kiddie pool?
chowfon166 1 month ago
The gun is not shit. When will you be taking a M4 underwater before battle anyways ?. Yes it needs be cleaned more often,and maintenance should be regular,and jams can be happen however it is still a very accurate weapon wich has almost limitless additions to it that can be made. Calling an M4 shit is just retarded it gets the job done.
Lamb00FGoD 1 month ago
@Lamb00FGoD Navy SEALs DELTA SAS Snipers secondary of Rangers all work in water and need a gun that will do the same.
Airsoftingfish 1 month ago
@Airsoftingfish I know that. I was just speaking about the average person on here making really poor comments about it,and I can say that probably AT LEAST 80 % of all commenters on this vid are not military,and have no need to speak so poorly about the weapon when they will most likely never operate it in water.
Lamb00FGoD 1 month ago
@Lamb00FGoD
Any tool can get a job done, that doesn't mean however that it's the best tool for the job. M-16's are decent weapons, accurate yes, but more problem inducing than a good weapon should be.
"Yes it needs be cleaned more often,and maintenance should be regular,and jams can be happen however"
No "great" battle implement should be this way.
barfingjake 4 weeks ago
@barfingjake Same goes for the UK SA-80A2's....Too much cleaning and servicing needed for a good combat weapon. I can't agree with you more about this ;) There needs to be a new cartridge being used because 5.56/.223 cal army rifles have too many problems and 7.62x51mm NATO weapons ammunition is to heavy to carry large amounts of ;)
jnadreth 3 weeks ago
i will be sure to not take my M4 swimming lol
GARNETarmy1984 1 month ago
thats why you never play with guns in the bath, unless its attached to you :D
CrunchyBrush 1 month ago
holy fuck
CandyHam 1 month ago
the gun is shit
ebaay1 1 month ago
@ebaay1 I see what you did thar...
SavageArms357 1 month ago
@SavageArms357 xd
ebaay1 1 month ago
Ha, a lot of these comments are quite silly, saying that the gun is shit.
This test is like taking a sledge hammer to a cell phone and saying "See? It's broken now, it must be crap". For the average shooter, this will never happen.
SavageArms357 1 month ago
this is why i will never buy anything with a direct impingement action.
TheKitsuneCatcher 1 month ago
Just goes to show, no matter haw crap it is the Americans will buy it as long as it is made in america and more importantly as long as congress owns shares in the company. And by the way, the AK-47 was only as good as you are all making it out to be 30-35 years ago, I'm not knocking it, its just obsolete.
xgoatyxxx 1 month ago
everyone thinks im watching porn. thanks faggot.
holypiss17 1 month ago 2
All he had to do was point the barrel down and pull the charging handle back and he's good to go.
txmetalcobra 1 month ago
He put on a helmet => He knew.
MrZebroid 1 month ago
my question is why didnt he have any sight on this gun
C0DY1921 2 months ago
@C0DY1921 ya don't need sights on a bomb... well you know what i mean...
TheWyatt007 1 month ago
you have to point the barrel down and slightly pull the bolt back before firing an M4 or M16 after being submurged
rambosperm 2 months ago
This doesn't happen with an ACR. Those guys can fight in Atlantis
ActuallyLiam 2 months ago
LMFAO!
PhOeNiXpIoLe 2 months ago
It is an inherent problem with ALL .22 caliber (.223/5.5mm/5.7mm) rifles that water does not easily drain from the barrel, when a round is chambered.
A barrel thus filled with water, might as well be filled with cement. And firing any weapon with a blocked barrel is just plain stupid.
Every soldier is trained to clear water from the barrel of his weapon, by retracting the bolt, and shaking the weapon, while pointing the muzzle downward.
skeilak 3 months ago
Irony is it's Made in the US..
Ampex101 3 months ago
but i just watched a video of some one fully submerged with an ar15 firing it. and he did it with a glock. and nothing like this happened they both performed perfectly, except the bullets only traveled about 2 feet lol.
airmanmatthew 3 months ago
@airmanmatthew chances are, the ar15 had a piston system in it instead of a gas system.
goose1065 2 months ago
he is like ''WTFJUST HAPPENED HERE''
MrAirsoftandstuff 3 months ago
It totally cracks me up that so many people thing a gun is reliable because it fires straight out of water.... this video was a HK video promoting their HK 416. It may have fired out of water.. but ask the norweigens about them parts on them freezing and cracking in cold conditions.. Just because a gun fires out of water doesn't mean the parts are superior and the integrity of the weapon will hold up under other conditions... I swear... I think sometimes the internet is the scurge of the earth.
grapplingtech77 3 months ago
waiting for test b...
susashi 3 months ago
thats y AK rules the earth!
Reliable, simple mechanism
CHERIKUGAJEVIKUGA 3 months ago
@CHERIKUGAJEVIKUGA
with decent accuracy at best, a fuck ton of shit tier copies (see WASR 10)
and when one does fail, might as well scrap the thing. also shit tier mags and is inferior to the 74, and 101, 103, 107 and 108
tostedcheeseman 2 months ago
you guys are fucking morons the ak's available here blow asshole and are way overpriced .. any decent ak in the us is at least 600 $ for a few hundred more you can get an AR 10 !!! way better options for optics and the 7.62 nato shits on a 7.62x39
alienman69 3 months ago
@alienman69 I bought my Saiga 7.62x39 for $299 this year, which is made by Izmash in Russia. If you want to restore to original ak it is not much. I love the rifle and enjoy shooting it
ford4602 2 months ago
@ford4602 $299?? You're a lucky man. I paid 370$ i think,but I do know it was more than 350. Were did you buy it at for such a low price?
Humberto4790 2 months ago
oh glad i found this video i was going to try that. i learned my lesson
solidenber 3 months ago
Fuk that AK47 much better and cheaper too. Been kicking ass for many countries since 1947.
killacomeback 3 months ago
@killacomeback but its not as accurate and it was mad 1943, the russian army adapted it 1947
ArmoredZimpa 3 months ago
@ArmoredZimpa You are incorrect. The Ak-47 began design in the last year of the war, 1945. In 1946 is was presented for trials as the AK46. After adding a fixed stock in 1947, it was release in limited quantities to a few Soviet armies as the AK47. The 47 stands for the year. AK stands for Avtomat Kalashnikova which translate to Automatic Kalashnikov. Kalashnikov being the designer Mikhail Kalashnikov.
tadracket 3 months ago 45
@tadracket hmm guess you learn something new every day :)
ArmoredZimpa 3 months ago
@tadracket you're very much correct my friend
goose1065 2 months ago
@tadracket The AK rifle was NOT in the army until late 1949. The name AK-47 is wrong and the proper name is just 'AK'.
Yfr28 4 weeks ago
@Yfr28 ummmmmmmm no.
foxvw 3 weeks ago
@tadracket How accurate is the Ak in comparison to say an AR-15? For it to be the 'worlds' weapon of choice for the most part there has to be something more to it then what I see. Or is it simply a matter of money and they're easy to produce?
airraverstaz 3 weeks ago
@airraverstaz actually, regardless the reliability factors of the M-16 it is considerably more accurate than the AK-47. See the M-16 versus AK wiki. (apparently I cannot post a link to there on here...) see the ammunition section -- about 1-3 moa compared to 3-5. that writer's source for that portion of the graph is a Russian publication about the AK, by the way.
ericdbates 3 weeks ago
@ericdbates I'll be sure to take a look at that. Thanks
airraverstaz 3 weeks ago
@tadracket mikhail began making a prototype in 41 and another one in 42. the most important parts where used to make the ak46
agentkapser 3 weeks ago
@tadracket /watch?v=hsdsQf3pMrw
a2redneck 2 weeks ago
When moving through a water obstacle with a weapon you must always keep the barrel facing down to create an air pocket in the barrel . The water in the barrel will only be minute and drain well before the weapon has reached the firing position
nixymagoo 3 months ago 34
@nixymagoo::::::AGwkHktkTxU&feature
AK47Gerilla46 1 month ago
that´s why it´s shit
NicoandLuis 3 months ago
Poor little DPMS :(...... never had a chance
sil3ntsp3ct3r 3 months ago
Check out the whole video. "They" allowed the HK to drain a second longer than the Colt.
fffreddie 3 months ago
M16 is the most durable
MrBudha98 3 months ago
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ChiZRice 2 months ago
thank god the H&K 416 was made, the germans toghter with belgians have always been best in weapons.
MrGerardnl 3 months ago
@MrGerardnl yeah, like the war time P38s that'd go full auto as soon as you dropped the safety, or the G36's that melt with sustained fire, or the Glocks that fire when dropped (or go off in their holster, shooting their carrier in the thigh), or the PPKs that cut your hand when you fire them (improved by Americans)
The HK416 is not much more than an M4A1 with a piston upper instead of a direct impingement, and theirs is merely the most well known, not the only one of that style.
CheeseSteakJim 3 months ago
Зачем сломали винтовку?:0
ACNikolayev 3 months ago
Thats why I Prefer the Ak 47 xD
CSnakeV 3 months ago
To much pressure, when water is in the barrel.
SzafGamingTV 3 months ago
BOOOOOM..... "wtf?"
buddaric987 3 months ago
Китайская.. )))
MaksimovLugansk 3 months ago
uhm i hope my theory is correct. so,when there is water in the gun it takes in a little space. and when teh gun fires there isn't enough space for the energy to get away? am i right?
randomdanc 3 months ago
ok so he knew that was going to happen so why do it
travisakins99 3 months ago
@travisakins99
This is the whole film:
AGwkHktkTxU
bogomir67 3 months ago
thank the USSR for the AK-47
KaDo92 3 months ago
Made in USA bro.
IMFLondon 3 months ago
Guy looks like he from tron
2bestudios 3 months ago
Daft Punk had to get a second job
CANEPA13 3 months ago
made in america,
impressive
gabriel55555555 3 months ago