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  • aren't the files hardened to begin with?

  • @Jcc8t7 Yeah - hence why you need to soften/anneal it at first to start working with it. See the NaturalBushcraft website for a full article on how I made this knife.

  • Looks quality people-can i buy 1 from you lol

  • good work made !

  • very good work guys cheers

  • Is it possible for you to put the process on video? or perhaps more of it?

  • @atomrocketcar man, tempering is the opposite of hardening, only not so advanced, for the knife must not soften back...

  • Oh man, I just love drop point knives...

  • one 10000 note never wanna loose that 1st set

  • possibly gram for gram afterwards

  • ten 1000 notes for business with others set of 1 gram

  • 1unit and 100 units to be more clear

  • 100unit per gram with all 11 can make 1000 unit note

  • make banknote off every gram of these besides gold pure and refined

  • other 9 im sure are in right spot

  • zinc and chrome maybe switched im not sure no field work

  • ‎1 silver 2 aluminum 3 titanium

    4 zinc 5 platinum 6 cobalt 7 nickel 8 copper 9 uranium 10 chromium

     11 gold ^ metal scale of toughness/density dual scale tbh

  • @ zerjesus they did it to harden the steel

  • Brilliant and inspiring !

    Thanks for sharing !

  • This is brilliant. Thank you guys.

  • Hello! Why did you cool that piece of iron in oil? I have used only water, does it make the metal shinier or something like that? Btw, I like your british accent. :)

  • @Zeejeesus It cools the metal slower, so it's not so brittel. It also cools the metal more evenly, and it also deposits a very thin layer of carbon into the metal (used motor oil) making a very a hard layer. It will leave the surface blackend

  • @andrewCNC905 Alrighty then, thank you for answer!

  • i like making knives im gonna do a few vids soon. i saw you harden the steel but did you temper it? heating it back up to 500f to soften the hardened brittle metal? nice to see blacksmithing isnt extinct

  • awesome.

  • You're doing it wrong! without proper annealment, the metal will be very brittle and snap right in half under pressure, you should try using clay to slow heating/cooling process of the metal backing & tang of the blade, wait a few moments before cooling it in oil, You want the metal to be glowing a dull orange before it goes into the oil.

  • @LohTek I did anneal the blade and obviously did a lot of other work off camera (in terms of shaping it) this was only a small part of the process.

  • @NaturalBushcraft What is annealment

  • @dogbone222 Google is your friend, ask him

  • @KingJimCards He told me some bull about an unknown game...

  • @LohTek uh what?? annealing steel is to soften it and is not a heat treatment that you would apply to a blade, unless you have to rework it....

    perhaps you mean temper? but as he used oil for the quench and not water, it should have enough tensile strength for its purpose.. personally i think he did a grand job....

  • HAHA Nice Improvising (Stand And Clap)

  • what did you use for fuel??

  • @Zacistan Lumpwood Charcoal.

  • i have that plug :P

  • I suppose a plough will work too. Very innovative Gentlemen. Your finished product looks good. Well done.

  • ok so do u know where to find a slab of 1095 high carbon steel this .25in thick and 20 inches overall.

  • what are the advantages of using oil (does it make the steel stronger?), can i use water? how do you make the finished blade into a desired shape- can i just file it afterwards, or before? and one more question: what is inside of the pan (not on the wok), do you put coals inside the pan and on top of the wok aswel?

    sorry that i have so many questions. i hope you can answer. i have subscribed :)

  • Do you use just regular engine oil to temper?

  • @ILoveToKickShit Yes I did.

  • @NaturalBushcraft Thanks a bunch.

  • @NaturalBushcraft what does it mean use oil to temper? make it hotter??

  • i wanted to know if i could combine two metals to make one

  • hi there i just wanted to no how the best way to make sore thet im doing the right angle when im using the angle grinder becoz this is my first knife many thanks eli look fowered to hearing from you sorry about the spelling

  • That said it wasn't a bad home made "forge"

  • Part 2 - Oil, (mineral nothing else) is used when extreme hardness is NOT required.

    Then the blade should be cleaned, so you can see the colour change, when tempering, which should be SLOWLY heated to straw colour and quenched again, (by slow immersion not plunging in and DONT swish it around) then left to fully air cool. As I didn't see any annealing or tempering taking place I would expect the blade will break under pressure or impact. Or luck's been on your side!

  • @chas4551 Thanks for your input. The blade was annealed before, there was a lot of this process that I obviously didn't show in this video like shaping and handling. The full process I undertook is documented on my website, the blade is still in one piece, a working functional knife - that's good enough for me.

  • Seems to be some confusion regarding oil and water for hardening so let an engineer tell you. The knife was made from an old file, (made from high carbon steel originally) which would have already been hardened, but not tempered, (which is why the break!). It should have first been normalised, (in order provide future hardening) and then annealed, (to remove stress and soften for shaping). Once shaped, ground, sharpened etc it should be hardened by quenching in soft distilled water.

  • Nice knife love it !

  • BAD ASS!

  • Wear safety glasses, use the shortest pliers you have, and make sure you have bare feet!

  • @handiest1 Glad you've got the idea ;D I tell you what bud, it's making use of what you've got. Don't follow my video for your safety but I can honestly say: I never got hurt and I made a beautiful knife out of materials and tools for free. What have you achieved?... other that trying to belittle people?

  • @NaturalBushcraft well done great idea

  • @handiest1 Thats Exaclty What I Did Today!!! jk

  • What kind of metal is the wok and saucepan made of? Would a regular store bought one work? I don't want to end up breathing any harmful fumes.

  • @Shiiransama Yeah that's right an ordinary shop bought one, if your worried about harmful fumes coming off it, simply build a big fire and through the wok in, it'll burn off any crap.

  • @Shiiransama .. oh and obviously standing away from the fire when it's in :)

  • i LOVE British accents

  • when i go to your website and click on making a bushcraft knife with a homemade forge all the videos say they have been removed?

  • @MrTylerIrvine I will look into this, thanks for letting me know.

  • @MrTylerIrvine I've found the problem! GreenPete moved his videos, I've updated the page thanks to your comment. All the videos now work. All the best,

    Ashley Cawley.

  • @NaturalBushcraft thanks! those are very helpful videos.

  • Good way to BBQ

  • @junhua123 Funny you should say that - I've actually used this small forge for quiet a few small BBQ's :)

  • love your british accent!

  • Why quench in oil and not water? Can you use any kind of oil........say olive oil?

  • That is awesome. and that is a nice looking knife as well.

  • I built a similar one in my apartment and my landlord called the police. Fukign biotch. Now I need to find a quieter way of hammering steel.

  • pretty cool i need to make a forge i made mine from a putty knife

  • funny how eye protection is used but he's not wearing shoes.....LOL

  • @baanjoguy Feet repair so easily they're considered disposable where'as eyes are far more important! ;D

  • @kavdeman yea you can use vegetable oil ive used it on some of mine

  • When you make a bush knife from an old metal file, will it hold up in the winter when you use a baton?

    Here is why i ask, i was out in the woods last night and i used a baton to cut down a small tree(3" diameter) for a walking stick and my knife snapped in half. So, what kind of steel would i need for some heavy winter bush craft?

  • @smknsmpt88 What sort of knife exactly was you using to baton with?

  • @smknsmpt88 did you only heat treat the knife? because it would have been very britle if thats all you did, after your heat up the knife and put it in oil clean it off and put it in a kitchen oven at 400 degrees celcius for 1 or 1 and a half hours.

  • @smknsmpt88 it depends on the heat treatment, if dont wrong it can be insanly britle and will shater.

  • @smknsmpt88 Was it a home made knife? if so did you temper properly? You left quite a bit of info out. How thick was the spine? it must have been a small knife to be using a baton on 3" tree, sometimes it pays to get a larger knife for the job. If your doing a home blade maybe you should think of getting a truck leaf spring. Or just pay the money and get some O1, D2, A2, tool steel flat bar. I personally use A2 and O1.

  • cool im going to try that

  • Sure, don't document it with videos and make the whole process easy to follow! Tell everyone it's on your website with zero instructions on how to find it when you get there!

  • @Turtawz I'm sorry, your obviously incapable of using the search box on the right hand side of my website oh and the menu that has everything on at the top.

    It's under: 'Bushcraft' > 'Kit' > "Making a Bushcraft Knife with a Homemade Forge"

    Cryptic isn't it?

    Funnily enough if you Google the same words as are in the title of this video the top result is my webpage where I document the entire process. Do us all a favour & learn how to use the Internet.

  • i have no idea why you hardened a file, they are already rediculously hard, thats why they are files in the first place, altho i guess it is possible you annealed it alot by not keeping it cool while grinding out its shape

    and some people say they use vegtable oil, i know this has less carbon than say charcoal or non-syn oil, but does it work really??? i really want to know

  • @kavdeman I did anneal the file first, using a Firebasket & letting it cool slowly.

    - Ashley.

  • @NaturalBushcraft nice one, and can you use vegtable oil as a hardening compound???

    iv seen it done by "blademasters" but wasnt really sure, what do you rekon???

  • @NaturalBushcraft cheers pal :D what type of oil are you using?? 10W40?? fully syn??

  • @kavdeman he softened the steel so he could shape the metal, grind it and then reheated it so it was strong again. then you can fine sharpen it.

  • @evinsteven13 you wouldnt happen to know about my oil question would you??? i tried veg oil. it really didnt work, lol

  • @kavdeman I heard that motor oil was great to use.

  • @TheTrappybeaver oh excellent, iv got tons of that, hahaha. thanks alot pal :D

  • AHahahha Well. I'm on it, Old fire style that is.

  • How did your knife turn out?

  • @broadie96 Google "Homemade Bushcraft Knife" and click on the NaturalBushcraft article, you will find a complete article where I take you through the process of how I built my first knife, complete with photos at the end.

    - Ashley.

  • can i use water instead of oil?

  • @Mightygold3 You can but it has a different effect on the steel, research it on google.

  • @Mightygold3 i used vegetable oil and it turned out pretty good.....water cools it down way to quick and it can crack and break cause its so brittle....th oil from used motor oil or vegetable oil cools it down slowly

  • so i just heat up a bar of steel or iron and pound it into the shape i want?

  • nwice knwife.

  • @NaturalBushcraft what kind of oil? can i use regular cooking oil

  • @NaturalBushcraft realy thanks first i think it special coal but it is so easy

    sorry for bad englisch realy thanks

  • @RockingOrange11 No problem mate.

  • are that coals to BBQ??

  • @RockingOrange11 Yes, they are normal coals that I would use to BBQ - Lumpwood Charcoal. Cheers,

    - Ashley Cawley.

  • Cool forge guys!

  • I used an outstanding Oberg mill file to form a 250mm hacker on the benchgrinder. It takes too long on the grinder, and damages the grinder , using an entire abrasive wheel to get the job done. It is good steel.

  • nice video man good tips---and very nice result

  • wait to do this do u NEED the oil of can u just use water

  • pretty nice

  • Was it a chestnut pan?

  • this was a fun thing to do took me about 20 minutes of video all tools were trash

    I tempered mine after I hardened it

    Great fun

  • I love the way you say bottom also what type of fuel did you use. Coal, Charcoal. or that coke stuff

  • @HemiVA64 Lumpwood charcoal.

  • I love the way you say bottom

  • dude that was awesome

  • Great video! I'm watchin from the U.S.

  • cool i want to try this

  • Now this is my kind of video, Subbed.

  • you two are funny! Nice work, good ideas on the fore, that's ingenuity!! Did you guys use a wooden template to help in shaping, or visualy helping that it is...good job guys!

  • @cj112674 Yes I did use a wooden template, if you google "Making a Bushcraft Knife with a Homemade Forge" you will find an article on our website documenting the whole process.

  • didn't show much in the vid of forge welding the blade.

  • @NaturalBushcraft im very very interested in forging my own knife, and i was wonder if you would private message me some information about how i can get the steel for the blade and tang.

  • @yoohoosk8r Go to my website bud, I made a whole article following my progress through this project; go to the NaturalBushcraft website and choose the following from the menu:

    > Bushcraft > Kit / Reviews > Making a Bushcraft Knife with a Homemade Forge

  • how did you get the red hot file to look so much like that knife?

  • does that forge heat the metal evenly?

  • @nightwalker2830 Yeah it does, it's got more than enough room for your standard bushcraft knife (roughly woodlore length specs)

  • nice forge i made mine by digging a hole and placing one of those big old square drain covers on it and surrounding it with bricks then sending a clay pipe down into the ground and then taking a blow dryer to send air down the pipe

  • @PTE989 Great to hear some variations :)

    - Ash.

  • do u sell them knives?

  • @nightwalker2830 No, I don't sell them. Maybe one day I might try my hand at a bit more knife making, with more research & appropriate tools! :)

    - Ash.

  • "hes actually going to put safety goggles on before he does this",

    person is not wearing shoes....whats going on?

  • @cottenmouthsnake he's actually wearing invisible steel-toe caps.

    Stay safe, use safety gear.

  • @NaturalBushcraft hahahaa nice comment invisible  steal toe capped boots i have some of them !

  • @cottenmouthsnake Feet can burn, or get hurt a bit. But they still work. Eyes, on the other hand are a bit different. You see they are significantly more vulnerable to becoming useless when damaged, and they're very important to see things. They're fragile, feet are far more durable. Hence, the importance for safety glasses and the disregard for shoes.

  • Where would i go about finding some metal and what metals could something like this heat to a shape-able metal

  • Good job on that forge!!!

  • a way you can tell when to quench the blade is when its not magnetic anymore, or when its JUST gotten back a TINY bit of its magnetisim

  • you are quenching WAY too hot in this. it should just barley bed red in sunlight. by quenching so hot the grain is going to grow and mess with your final product by reducing its toughness. i have to say though, damned good knife for a begginer.

  • @capnnewb Thanks for the advice. Just the other day I was re-profiling the bevel on this knife, making it into more of a convex edge now. This summer I plan to build a new forge (a bigger one) and I have a nice treadle thing with a grinding-stone on one side, polishing wheel on the other AND in the middle it turns a fan I presume to possibly power a forge!.. We'll see how it goes, not doubt there will be videos :D Cheers,

    Ashley.

  • Good job!

  • nicely done! very nice..

  • Hey NBC, Sorry to hear it. It was & is a good video...just seemed like the old music "went'' with it...anyway, thanks for the post & the reply. bcb

  • Good vid...what happened to the original with Way of the Warrior background music?

  • That video was on my older personal account, but YouTube broke the video!.. they started re-rendering their videos and it made the video extremely choppy & unwatchable, so I had to re-upload it. Shame as the old video had something silly like 50,000 views and hundreds of comments and it lost all that.

  • was this made out of a file

  • What happened to the original with Way of the Warrior background music?

  • I'm trying this out for a school project and had a few quesitons. What coal did you use? How long did you keep the blade in the coals for?

  • WOW

  • did you belt sand the edge on to your knife

  • Nope, didn't have a belt-sander at the time!

  • did u use an old rasp to make the knife?

  • Yes he did. He said so in the video, and the photos at the end show the same. If you're interested in trying, get GreenPete's free DVD on making a knife from an old file; it's excellent.

  • wow that was really quite good.. thumbs up for both the forge and knife. something i wouldnt mind trying but i fear i never will. i will defo need too check out more of ur vids... keep them comin

  • interesting design.

  • Thank you. Great information in the video, and excellent production. Curious as to which program you used to edit and add effects. I will share this with our instructors as we are just getting in to forges.

  • @primitiveskills Thanks for your comment. I'll send you a private message with some details.

  • thank you for posting this, I am very interested in forging metal (particularly knives and swors) and i was somewhat sceptical of me acrually being able to pull it off. that is, until I saw this!!!

  • Good to hear, I definitely recommend checking out the full article about my knife-making process on the NaturalBushcraft website. Also there's an article on there that helps you download GreenPete's Free knife making DVD. =)

  • thanks!

  • hey Ashley, where do you go camping? if i ever take a tour of the uk i want to do some camping.

  • Great idea on low budget forge, hope you don't mind if I use it!

  • Not at all!.. Thats why I shared it :) There's a whole article on the entire process at the NaturalBushcraft website, check it out.

  • @NaturalBushcraft Very nice little forge....BTW, what type of material are you using in the forge? I've quite a bit of experience making knives but have always sent out my blades for heat treatment. Recently, I've been thinking of having a go at heat treating but am still trying to figure out the basics. If it's not too much trouble, would you mind sending me a list of all the materials you used to make the forge (exact size for pipes, type of wood/coal, etc)? I'd really appreciate it....

  • no need for exact amounts, you just need a place for the coals and knife, and a air inle with a powerfull airsource

  • i really like your forge, great improvisation!!

  • Indeed you can use water instead of oil, but when you use water, you heva a bigger risk thats the steel cracks, because water cool down the steel faster then oil.

  • Great looking mini forge :) But on another youtube video, they said that water works just as well to quench but doesn't flame up at you like the oil. Just a thought :)

  • The decision of what to quench with should be based on the type of steel being used. That's kind of an issue I have with using files. You don't always know what steel you are working with. Worn out files are free, but bar stock is super cheap and you know what you are dealing with. Not a big deal, just my opinion.

  • What is the matrial you use to melt the steel

  • very nice! :D

  • I think i have seen this video like year ago..

  • Thats a really nice job! great idea.Good craftsmanship.

  • Thanks :)

  • how did you get a uniform edge for the blade ?

  • Amazing!!

    5/5

  • Wow so you beat on it and shaped it the way you wanted? pretty cool

  • No, I ground it using a hand angle grinder I picked up for free and a file. I made the forge to bring the steel up to temp for heat-treating etc.

  • Brilliant video, thanks for posting!

  • Great how to video. 5Stars

  • Great vid,I like the new title and pictures!

    5/5

  • Thank you for sending me that super video. i have an old file at home so i will use it for try to make my own knive

  • Nice i am going to make one thank you for the vid. have a good one mate. sean

  • Great job! Like seeing how to type vids showing people how to do things on the cheap. Anyone can do this without a lot of expense. 5/5