im a noob when it comes to the pro melee scene but damn this zelda is awesome.. i main zelda and i'm always trying to improve... i didn't even know you could chain grab with her... then again i'm noob :P
speed and tiers does change the outcome. thats like zelda playing a speedy character like FOX and Zelda the slowest character in the game, hmmm i wonder whos going to win that. this game is way too tier based like MvC2 thats why i hate this game. At least old smash EVERY character is good.
Tiers are existant, but they just reflect tournament results. So if more people play Zelda, zelda will almost certainly rise in the tier list.
The metagame now is overflooded with spaceanimals and marths, partialle explaining their high placement.
My point here is: tiers show which characters are best on paper and have the best tournament results, but that doesnt mean characters low on both these classes cant win.
Lol, no, tiers are based on how good a character is. Zelda is at the bottom because she sucks. She has few good moves, she's slow, her short hop sucks, her fast fall sucks, her recovery is awkward and slow, etc.
And to add to that, of course anyone can win with any character. But no one who uses Zelda or Bowser or Yoshi will ever be the best. Ever notice how pretty much every important tournament has been won by a Fox, Falco, Sheik, Marth, or Peach player?
i appreciate the discussion, but your tone is more aggressive than it needs to be. You are totally right when you make a point about top placements. But you must also take into account that the top-top-top players are way and way better than these players. If you look at how tiers affect the highest level play, they matter everything. But in moderate and tournament play, tiers are less important than the other factors.
Speed and Tiers have nothing to do with why Zelda lost that one. And the spacing was not godly. Zelda didn't get a sweetspot kick until 1min into the match. Too many lunges with the kick put Zelda in Shield grab range to combos. Captain Jacks Zelda still has best spacing and mindgames.
im a noob when it comes to the pro melee scene but damn this zelda is awesome.. i main zelda and i'm always trying to improve... i didn't even know you could chain grab with her... then again i'm noob :P
isaypwnsj00 1 year ago
GOOD MATCH!!! Kawns very good.
masoftekken 4 years ago
ahahaa. lookit dat P! some broken ass smash. lmfao.
tsudyesin 4 years ago
speed and tiers does change the outcome. thats like zelda playing a speedy character like FOX and Zelda the slowest character in the game, hmmm i wonder whos going to win that. this game is way too tier based like MvC2 thats why i hate this game. At least old smash EVERY character is good.
KOFXIKula 4 years ago
I'm sorry, but this Zelda almost beat a top CF.
Tiers are existant, but they just reflect tournament results. So if more people play Zelda, zelda will almost certainly rise in the tier list.
The metagame now is overflooded with spaceanimals and marths, partialle explaining their high placement.
My point here is: tiers show which characters are best on paper and have the best tournament results, but that doesnt mean characters low on both these classes cant win.
MelodicDaath 4 years ago
Lol, no, tiers are based on how good a character is. Zelda is at the bottom because she sucks. She has few good moves, she's slow, her short hop sucks, her fast fall sucks, her recovery is awkward and slow, etc.
PiesCanFly 4 years ago
And to add to that, of course anyone can win with any character. But no one who uses Zelda or Bowser or Yoshi will ever be the best. Ever notice how pretty much every important tournament has been won by a Fox, Falco, Sheik, Marth, or Peach player?
PiesCanFly 4 years ago
i appreciate the discussion, but your tone is more aggressive than it needs to be. You are totally right when you make a point about top placements. But you must also take into account that the top-top-top players are way and way better than these players. If you look at how tiers affect the highest level play, they matter everything. But in moderate and tournament play, tiers are less important than the other factors.
MelodicDaath 4 years ago
Speed and Tiers have nothing to do with why Zelda lost that one. And the spacing was not godly. Zelda didn't get a sweetspot kick until 1min into the match. Too many lunges with the kick put Zelda in Shield grab range to combos. Captain Jacks Zelda still has best spacing and mindgames.
darkmusician 4 years ago
rofl. Other NJ vids feature him giving up at the end XD
GMMesmerize 4 years ago
why is your zelda so good><
And why did you retire zomg
that spacing is godly
Darkatma 5 years ago
Good zelda, tough finish.
MelodicDaath 5 years ago
FUCK I thought she had it. Best Zelda I've seen.
darksyde3000 5 years ago
disappointed at zelda giving up the win
daflameking 5 years ago
Bad qualityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy. Keeps skipping.
PiesCanFly 5 years ago
I hated this video, i had the match one, o well thats what happens when you play low tier against speed, and high tier, or whatever.
smashmaster0 5 years ago
KOF HAHA Pierre damn no practice
Arel0e 5 years ago
Slammed by that forward smash. Tough way to go.
Songy 5 years ago
Damn, Zelda had it too. Hellllla sucks
JCrest87 5 years ago
where was this?
ian033190 5 years ago
very good keep it up
arean 5 years ago