Matthew Collings :: This Is Modern Art ep.1 (2/5)

[otrootroyo]

I made modern art when I was five years old. Then I grew up.

[TypoChamp]

Those 2 big towers in the background are "post-modern art" ?

[5inkrat]

....i agree, we need more paintings of nice sunsets and airbrushed renderings of american diners...i mean, what has a dirty bed got to do with reflecting reality? art shouldn't challenge us, or mystify us, anyone knows that. it's just supposed to sit there and look nice......

[bigglikeinit]

artists run out of new ideas long before any of us were born. now its all about the artists who can sell a dirty bed for a million.

[KhagarBalugrak]

So you're saying ugliness is equal to beauty, and create an online shrine where you can be worshipped.

Fuck.  Off.

[Z3R00NE]

nice work! but a little bit "naive" !?

[NotNamedJones]

@MensRifleAssociation which is precisely the meaning of all art-the meaning of it within an individual's mind...

[MensRifleAssociation]

He thinks picasso is in the art... lol

[wiwq]

@MensRifleAssociation picasso indeed is one of the most genius minds of XX century..

his novatory ideas led to what we understand modern art is today..

ofcourse..ur opinion differs on this matter..and this aceptable..

our understanding of what real art is is personal and individual

[MrMikeludo]

@wiwq There simply is no such thing as a 2-dimensional Cubist thing anywhere in 4-dimensional reality. Therefore, by simple deduction, Picasso wasn't a genius, he was an opportunist at best, as he took advantage of the gullibility of some of the weakest minds in the world: the aristocracy, and Gertrude Stein in particular. If it wasn't for Stein's shameless self aggrandizing, and self-promotion, there would have never been a Picasso.

[wiwq]

@MrMikeludo as u say to these weak minded people picasso is still the synonyme of modern art..

u might thinks he was not genius..but u have to admit he was special..because history doesnt remember ordinary simpletons..

personally for me Goya was the true father of modern art..

[MrMikeludo]

@wiwq I don't mean to be argumentative, but Picasso wasn't special either, he was lucky. Unfortunately, his place in history isn't a reflection of any achievement, but a degradation, which has become scientifically verified. It is mankind's ability to process sensory input information, and/or cognize space. And which is a developed capability that can become degraded. It is a capability for the cognitive function of music, and 4-dimensional reality. When the ability becomes degraded, humans...

[MrMikeludo]

@wiwq experience a regression back to point time zero: the point of birth, and can only function as young children. Children cannot understand reality, and can 'know' nothing. Children - and all people, can experience a dopamine biochemical induction every time they 'see' something they have never seen before. For hundreds of years, the aristocracy experienced this regression back to point time zero. So, along came Picasso with his never before seen Cubist things. The aristocray 'saw' them...

[MrMikeludo]

@wiwq for the first time, and experienced a simple dopamine biochemical induction, and blindly believed they were experiencing genius. Because, when they regressed back to point time zero they could actually 'know' absolutely 'nothing': just like a child. There is NO SUCH THING as a 2-dimensional Cubist thing in reality. This same concept also explains all of 'modern, art: show a picture of some never before seen 'thing,' experience a dopamine induction, and attempt to define it as 'genius.'

[OscarBaldwin]

@MrMikeludo I copied those comments to a workd document and saved them, interesting stuff. Where can I learn more about this stuff?

[MrMikeludo]

@OscarBaldwin If you are serious, I have explained it further on a philosophy forum, here:" Philosophy Forum (PCF) Philosophy Chat & Forums for discussion...", and in the philosophy/art forum, under the title: "What is art - Da Vinci The Annunciation." They welcome new members on the forum. If you can't find it, let me know.

[TamaraAndTheDemon]

I like Picasso's blue and rose period, not sure on the rest.

[faunflynn]

Poor old Pollock. Tragedy is such a sell- able cliche.

[paolo4559]

Gut gemacht !! Bravo !!

[wonderlandangel18]

I cant call modern art art! Its just aload of junk or stuff people have stuck together.

[freeman22223]

pollock arbitrary?! lol

[anjelbella777]

i <3 picasso...i find him to have been a great artist...BUT..the 'modern art' that people do now. And say that it was inspired by picasso...i dont buy it. I find most of it to be garbage, no offense, just my opinion...

[shaymultimedia]

George, "the emperor's new clothes" may be old hat, but it has survived for centuries because it brilliantly articulates how powerful people manipulate a naive public into following and supporting a scam. Have you got a better expression or cliché which fulfills this purpose?

[ShaneyElderberry]

Barking at a knot maybe?

It's interesting that you think of picasso as a cliche. I'm curious to see if you also feel the same about all Wunderkinds and culturally successful people throughout history,

But we all have our opinions so it doesn't make a difference in the long run right? My favorite artists might be something like Botticelli, Massaccio, Durer, or Riemenschneider, but hey I'm sure somebody thinks they're pretty cliche.

[shaymultimedia]

I don't think Picasso is a cliché, but I use a cliché to emphasize my point about about his over-rated legacy. Anyway, take an unknown Picasso drawing from any period, and hang it in some obscure gallery under a fictitious name like "José Rodriguez" and 99% of people will be completely indifferent to it. That's the reality, less than 1% of people are committed to the visual arts, and the the other 99% have to be told what's good, and some even have to be told what they're supposed to like.

[ShaneyElderberry]

It's the reality of all professions, most are non-skeptical.

Most people care very little about any of the humanities. Art historians would cherish a series of paintings by painters like Andrea Mantegna or Giovanni Bellini, two figures very well know to historians, but unknown largely since the big names get all the limelight.

The very categorization of "German, French, Italian, Spanish, Netherlands" artists will get more credit then say something from Poland, Belarus, Sweden, or Ireland.

[shaymultimedia]

Don't forget the young Brit artists too, so much hype about nothing. And being an "Irish" artist myself I can identify with your last paragraph. Most people cannot fathom the notion of the "Irish visual artist," they expect me to be a writer, or a musician. Francis Bacon, despite having spent most of his youth there, was wise to disassociate himself from the Ireland, the country of his birth. Bizarrely the Irish MOMA now exhibit all of the junk from Bacon's old Kensington Studio, such nonsense!

[ShaneyElderberry]

I would have written more nations like the british artists but youtube only allows me to post so much.

XD It sounds like Ireland's MoMA unfortunately gets the left overs from other countries. Interesting that Ireland decided to adopt an English artist's work like their own. Hopefully Ireland will be more active in the visual art world in years to come.

[shaymultimedia]

Some might say that the English adopted an Irish artist's work as their own, because Bacon was born in Ireland, and resided in Ireland up until his late teens. But I want nothing to do with the art scene in Ireland, Dublin in particular. Like everywhere else their gallery scene is aloof and saturated with back-stabbing social climbers.

Ireland is actually very active in the visual arts, but for most foreigners it doesn't fit the stereotype, they want us all to be writers.

[ShaneyElderberry]

^_^ it's official, all of Irish artists must become art historians or art critics because the rest of the world says so XD

[Undech01]

@shaymultimedia They know what is good; classical sculpture and painting. The ones who have to be told what to like would be the patrons of modern/postmodern art. It isn't valuable until the curatoriat and the art critics anoint it as "art". If a piece of art requires the context of a gallery space or a museum to be considered art, its not art.

What you have just displayed is the only real commodity being exchanged in modern art, an artificial sense of intellectual accomplishment.

[jjccccc]

i went to picaso gallery in paris for me it was like a religous experience

[shaymultimedia]

Picasso is so over-rated, the emperor's new clothes.

[stendhalismo]

agreed

[GeorgeCottier]

I hate the expression "emperor's new clothes".

It's old hat.

[chandru1103]

he was important to everything, but i pass him by for the glitz of expressionism...sorry pablo!