Liu Bei was actually intending to rescue Guan Yu in this tv series but never got the chance to. Sun Quan and Zhou Yu tried to kill Liu Bei many times in the post-red cliff period but all the attempts were foiled by zhugeliang. And just fyi, Dong Zhuo was killed by Lu Bu who was killed by Cao Cao.
@honsam23 Guan Yu was killed by Lu Meng who was a general serving under Sun Quan. However, Sun Quan was worried that Liu Bei and Cao Cao will join forces to elimate him and decided to send Guan Yu's severed head to Cao Cao as a gift.
@honsam23 Liu Bei was actually intending to rescue Guan Yu in this tv series but never got the chance to. Sun Quan and Zhou Yu tried to kill Liu Bei many times in the post-red cliff period but all the attempts were foiled by zhugeliang. And just fyi, Dong Zhuo was killed by Lu Bu who was killed by Cao Cao.
You know what's great at this version? The realism. Look at this scene, the wind how is raising the dust and how the troops can barely keep the flags.
@arrivederciliebe32 In real History, Yan Liang actually was killed by Guan Yu in the battle of Baima, but not in the same way that was depicted in this video. Wen Chou on the other hand was killed in a proceeding battle, although it was not mentioned who struck the finishing blow. More likely it was Xu Huang or Zhang Liao than Guan Yu.
Throughout the various series and movies like ROTK, Red Cliff 1 and 2, Three Kingdoms Resurrection of the Dragon, Three Kingdoms 2010, and The Lost Bladesman, there have been several selected actors who played the role of Guan Yu. The most notable ones are Lu Shu Ming who played Guan Yu in ROTK, and Yu Ronguang who played Guan Yu in Three Kingdoms 2010. Obviously, the ROTK version stands out the best in terms of emotion and script. But action-wise, I prefer the 2010 version.
@MasamuneAzure You are right, but Shu also had Zhuge Liang and Pa Zheng in Han Zhong. Maybe if Guan Yu had Zhuge Liang or Pa Zheng, he may not lost as many as war he did.
However, I agree with you on Guan Yu not being as complete as the novel suggests.
@MasamuneAzure One thing that needs to happen is that tho, re-evaluation on characters in Cao Wei. So many generals in Cao Wei were underestimated. In the novel, as you know Xu Huang was very underestimated. In the novel, he lost to Yan Liang, and even killed by Meng Da. In history, I might consider him to be as good as Zhang Liao. If you think about it generally everyone except Shu generals were underestimated.
This is the guy that broke siege of Fancheng with his wit and determination.
@kmc10314 I love Xu Huang :P . Xu Huang defeated Guan Yu with only a few thousand recruits, note recruits.
Guan Yu was a competent general, but he was more of a frontline raiding officer. If you need a man to charge and lead the vanguard/calvary, Guan Yu was it. But that was all Guan Yu was. His civil, diplomatic, and overall leadership is just poor.
For Zhang Liao, you are right, but then in that war, Sun Quan did not have a strategist and Sun Quan himself was not even a great warrior / general.
I'm not die hard-Guan Yu fan, but as for Guan Yu's defense, he generally had to fight up with Cao Cao's army the most, which had plenty of smart and great generals.
Other generals in Shu either fight Cao Cao with Pa Zheng, Zhuge Liang, or recorded victory against generally inferior generals like ones in Shu.
@kmc10314 Sun Quan did have advisers and strategists. Doesn't mean he listened to them, nor can they predict a sudden attack by Zhang Liao.
During the Han Zhong campaign, Wei had several capable generals. Cao Xiu was a accomplished adviser, and generals like Zhang He, Guo Huai, Xiahou Yuan, and Cao Hong. Guan Yu lost to Li Tong, Yue Jin, Xu Huang, Wen Pin, and Cao Ren. Shu generlas at Han Zhong had to deal with equal capable officers as Guan Yu.
@MasamuneAzure, btw it's good to see someone not just totally believing ROTK, but also look into history. I honestly thing people in ROTK need to be re-evaluated, unless you accept the novel as it is.
@kmc10314 I just hate die hard novelist, once a guy argued saying Diao chan was real. And all he did was keep yelling it with no sources, even when i did show sources backing me that Diao chan wasn't real, he still went " SHES REAL!" great job Luo Guanzhong..
@MasamuneAzure I really agree tho that Guan Yu is one of the most exaggerated person through the ROTK. In fact, I think in ROTK a lot of Shu generals are exaggerated just because they are Shu generals.
Lots of Wu and Wei generals are really underestimated and underrated.
@MasamuneAzure What you said is true. Zhang Liao was really great general.
I personally think what Zhang Liao better general than Guan Yu. However, usually in all those battles, Wei armies had strategists with them. Cao Ren also had Man Chong when he was battling Guan Yu. It was Man Chong who gave him advices to Cao Ren rather than Cao Ren himself.
@MasamuneAzure Overall when it comes to battles all of Shu general probably recorded less victories than ones in Wei since Wei generals usually had more numbers and more resources than Shu generals
@kmc10314 Wei general Zhang Liao, 800, against Sun Quan's greater army. Wei generals battled against yuan Shao, Shang, Tan, and Xi. They had less men, or equal. Cao Cao's generals against Yuan Shu, and Li Jue. They overcame greater odds. So did win even though they were disadvantaged.
Morale, tactics, and strategies are bigger factors then numbers.
Well sad for Shu right, they should have conquered their enemies and not let Cao Cao become the powerful foe.
@MasamuneAzure I don't think you can just decide one is great general by the number of wins in the history. If you look at that way, overall none of Shu generals really had many victories unless they had Zhuge Liang on the camp. The reason, Guan Yu probably scored less victory compared to other generals in Shu, is probably he stayed in Jing Province instead of going to Shu. Lots of Liu Bei's generals recorded victory when they were facing Cao Cao with Zhuge Liang or attacking weaker armies
@Not victories.. Accomplishmetns, without accomplishments.. how can you base a general on how great he is? That's like going up to a farmer and saying " You have no military deeds, but I think you have talent!" <-- Make Sense? No. It doesn't matter if Guan Yu was in Jing, he had barely any accomplishments thus we CAN'T say he was a better general then those who did more. Plus in Jing, he was defeated several times by Wei generals.
If you are talking about fiction, Guan Yu was good general, yet, he still was not the best warrior like you told everyone. In fiction, the greatest warrior was Lu Bu. To beat Lu Bu, Guan Yu, Zhang Fei, and Liu Bei had to come together. In Cao Cao's case, he use 6 general on Lu Bu.
You all understand that he was a tall asian warrior, in a land of well asians lol same with Lu Bu or any other great warrior of that chaotic time. I understand you all fight from the stand point of the game. That is okay but not reality. Both Bu and Guan Yu were great men in their own accord. But Bu was more of a drinker, and ended his life as an alcoholic trapped within depression. That was not the case with Guan Yu. Neither were a brilliant strategist within maps and plots, They were warriors
@WeNeedSomeGolfShoes No actually that's how the insult goes. It's not supposed to be that long. It's less funnier if it spreads like your webbed feet.
@WeNeedSomeGolfShoes I'm on a dependant's stay in SG but i'm sure i got some people confused. Well actually. I stopped "keyboard" Fighting. You started again you got no life. Na Kaleni, suka!
@WeNeedSomeGolfShoes OH MY GOD! HAHAHAH! It gets better! Someone actually asked you "How's life in Amsterdam?" ahahha! you stupid shit! you're English? My nuts! you fucking Wanker. HAHAHA! you really hate you're stupid web-footed culture huh? you can't even spell right! "Mr. I-want-to-be-English" HAHAHAH!!
@WeNeedSomeGolfShoes Fancy a cup 'o' Tea? Fish and Chips perhaps? Eh! me house got blagged! Blimey! the ol' Bill made an arrest on your Mother! Oi! Wanker! Southern Fairy, Northern Monkey? which one are ya?
you're not English.. You can't even type right. You're from Netherlands. Lying Cock. It says on your Channel. Now why lie? Why? you hate you Culture that much? you're pathetic.. There's nothing worse than a guy whom neglects his heritage. *sigh*
@WeNeedSomeGolfShoes You spelled Singapore wrong. And guess. And your. And you. Also, your coming off as an asshole, wihch pormtps me to piont out yuor bad splienlg.
@vonkreger Hey, don't even bother about arguing with asses whom lies about their culture, nationality and race. It's pathetic. He's English and he can't spell, he can't give a proper insult, he know alittle too much about asian culture. What kind of English men does that? It say he's from Netherlands on he's channel, he's just a neanderthal web-footed breed. Don't bother to reply him.
Compared with Greece and Italy, Holland is but a platter-faced, cold-gin-and-water country, after all, and a heavy, barge-built, web-footed race are it's inhabitants.
@WeNeedSomeGolfShoes Whatever. P.S it's my last year. I'm graduating in 5 months. how is it you lot say goodbye? errrr... Sayonara? Had fun fucking about with you.
@WeNeedSomeGolfShoes Ain't you the same you bloody asian. Sit behind the screen and bother replying. Stupid Yellow wanker. You're yellow. you know why Asians are yellow? because you lot have been pissed on so much you eventually turned yellow.
@WeNeedSomeGolfShoes ahhhh~~~ the goldfish tender speaks and read English. However don't for one second think you're not a waste of space because you are still a waste of space. Get this clear I only watched this video because i'm facinated by Asian culture. how they boast of they're Gods and men. Yet they are the weakest and picked on. To this day. Nothing will ever change mate. you lot will always be wankers.
@WeNeedSomeGolfShoes You really have nothing in your life huh? I study law not history, and the term "believed to be" the word believed. It's a very strong and stupid word. A mere human became God because some wanker "believe" it so. I'd say.. You're either dumb or a bloody Jap to be standing up for that historic little yellow gezzer. Bollocks to your believes. If you are a goldfish tender then you lot really deserved that tsunami, quite sadly you lot managed to survive. Really a waste of space
You never heard of apotheosis from the Romans? If you're really went to law school then I guess it's true what they say about where lawyers go in the afterlife.....
me ,grand son of the grannd son of the grandson of the grandson of the grandson of the grandson of the grandson of the grandson of the son of master king Cao Cao like this video !! ,congratulation Guan YU !
IMO, Guan Yu was the strongest, both as a general and warrior, in the whole series. In earlier days, Guan Yu was Liu Bei's top strategist. Also, Yan LIang was kicking everyone's ass before Guan Yu killed him with one attack. In the end, Guan Yu only used forces and resources in his own jurisdiction but he forced Wei and Wu to join forces and they used their top generals(Xiahou Dun, Xu Huang, Pang De, Lu Meng, Lu Xun, etc.,) to do it.
@MasamuneAzure and I'll have to disagree with you on lu bu being better than guan yu. lu bu's ability to lead cavalry was great but many historians say that lu bu's abilities were exagerrated to make the novel more interesting by Luo since Lu Bu created many conflicts.
@MasamuneAzure if you put it that way, cao ren and xiahou dun's accomplishments are nearly non-existent too, but somehow they made it so high in the ranks.
Also, even when Guan Yu surrendered to Cao Cao, he was given a rank as a general higher than ones like Yu Jin, Xu Huang, Yue Jin.
And there is a record that Cao Cao says that Yan Liang was so fierce that he regretted killing Lu Bu, but he thanked the heavens for having Guan Yu.
@PhenomKBR Cao Ren had many accomplishments, Xiahou Dun was a poor general, but was trusted by Cao Cao. Dun was a capable govenor that helped form the foundation of Wei.
Guan Yu was not promoted higher then other wei generals that you said. I don't know where you got that from.
Alright, so your basing Guan Yu's greatness by what the SUPERSTITIOUS chinese said bout the times and not his historical accomplishments?
@MasamuneAzure Just like Cao Ren and Xiahou Dun, Guan Yu played an important role in forming Shu. He's the one who supported them from behind and kept what they had safe until it happened.
And Guan Yu did have higher rank when he surrendered. If you research harder, it's right there although it has a lot of limitation if your only language is english.
@MasamuneAzure There is no way I base my judgement on superstition. I simply pointed out that people of THAT TIME considered Guan Yu to be the greatest, people like Cao Cao, his strategists, etc., I don't base my judgements on superstition. I find it funny that you think you know better than people who actually knew Guan Yu at that time. I think Korean, Chinese, and Japanese ROTK researchers would really love a talk with you since you know so well.
@PhenomKBR PEople DID NOT think he was the greatest. His ascension to the title of a GOD and people praising him CAME AFTER HIS DEATH and in the Sui-Tang Dynasties. Show me proof that shows records that says Guan Yu was the greatest from Cao Cao's strategist or whatever. east asian researchers will judge their knowledge and insight on actual accomplishments. Not what other say about them.
@MasamuneAzure i'd give you all the proof but to be honest, i don't think you can read korean nor japanese. And its really stupid to argue about rotk in english because i know how shallow knowledge about it can be in this culture. everyone's entitled to their own opinions and i respect that you can be rotk grandmaster in youtube but i only stated things from credible sources.
@PhenomKBR That doesn't help you. Seems to me your avoiding on giving me sources. I'm not some grandmaster alright? Your making these claims on Guan Yu which I rebuttal. And if these sources are so credible, why are they not in Chinese?? Do the Koreans and Japanese know everything about China and refuse to translate their scripts? I am not a hypocrite and I'll cite my source of knowledge. Sanguozhi, Rafe De Crespigny's Tome, Hanshu, and Zi Zhi Tong Jian. These contain the most info on TK.
@MasamuneAzure guan yu was conceited and lacked political insight and those led him to the loss but authors from both version of ROTK judge guan yu to be the greatest overall as a general and warrior. Historically, guan yu is definitely the strongest warrior. many people of the time judged Guan Yu to be the greatest of the era, including cao cao and his subjects. historically, guan yu was even judged to be a better warrior than lu bu.
@PhenomKBR People of the time, and authors can judge what they want. But I don't believe others just because they say so. I have my own judgement of people, and back it up with sources. Guan Yu killed Yan Liang in a raid. That was the highlight of his career as a warrior. His only other accomplishment was not being flooded during a natural flood which wiped out Yu Jin and Pang De. Those two are his only accomplishments. That does not make even a great general in my book. Good warrior yes.
@MasamuneAzure i based my judgement on what people of that time thought. I think they would know better. Also, if he wasn't so good, why would liu bei even let him defend half of his land, instead of letting someone like zhao yun? Leading a large army is different from being in charge of a small army and a castle.
@PhenomKBR Again, show me proof of people of that time say bout Guan Yu. Ughh because Guan Yu was well trusted by Liu Bei and leaving his only powerbase at the time in Jing to Guan Yu was better than giving it to how NEW list officers that only serve him awhile. Guan Yu's work in Jingzhou was poor anyways. Zhao Yun was sent to aid Liu Bei in Yizhou along Zhang Fei and Zhuge Liang.
@silvermaniamania1 yeah maybe they are really a joke...however u quit acting like a keyboard warrior and internet fag and resolve it on the battlefield with the chinese?
I'm guessing you're a prepubescent little douche whose only knowledge of Spartans comes from the movie 300. Please refrain from further idiocy and go die somewhere.
@JankyToe these tiny tiny monkey chinks aint shit compare to Great Roman regions! these funny looking chinks aint nothing but midget compare to great Spartans!
@mikaelnigel1 no CHINKS are too fuckin small! they cant do shit! XD XD XD XD XD XD small hands, short, big fuckin head with ridiciouls hair!!! XD XD XD XD
@soulslayer55000 yea..like in dynasty warriors...whatever just..hes 1 of the big role in rotk by koei.so if yan liang beat him? why the fuck is xu huang get the special role beyond few hundred characthers?!
@stevechen1991 thats wat make the wu kingdom a bitch to fight against, everytime wu is at a diadvantage somthin gets burned down and Gan Ning shows up :(
@jak1234567898765432 DW is based off from a novel "the romance of the three kingdom" by Luo Guanzhong in the 14th century based on the real history. The novel is 70% true and 30% false--exaggerated. Let's say that dynasty warriors is more exaggerated just bcuz many characters in the game can't fight, but more of strategists/intelligence type or politics type
Che-e-e-sy.... XD... for a good three kingdom movie rent "Red Cliff" and get the 2 disk international version one... good acting, good fighting scenes... top notch movie all around. Too bad it covers only the battle of chi bi
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Liu Bei was actually intending to rescue Guan Yu in this tv series but never got the chance to. Sun Quan and Zhou Yu tried to kill Liu Bei many times in the post-red cliff period but all the attempts were foiled by zhugeliang. And just fyi, Dong Zhuo was killed by Lu Bu who was killed by Cao Cao.
dynastywarriorlord07 3 months ago
was guan yu executed by caocao or sunquan?
honsam23 3 months ago
@honsam23 Guan Yu was killed by Lu Meng who was a general serving under Sun Quan. However, Sun Quan was worried that Liu Bei and Cao Cao will join forces to elimate him and decided to send Guan Yu's severed head to Cao Cao as a gift.
dynastywarriorlord07 3 months ago in playlist Guan yu
@dynastywarriorlord07 why didn't liubei save him from executed?
why didn't they executed liubei as well?
is caocao killed by lubu and dong zhuo?
honsam23 3 months ago
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@honsam23 Liu Bei was actually intending to rescue Guan Yu in this tv series but never got the chance to. Sun Quan and Zhou Yu tried to kill Liu Bei many times in the post-red cliff period but all the attempts were foiled by zhugeliang. And just fyi, Dong Zhuo was killed by Lu Bu who was killed by Cao Cao.
dynastywarriorlord07 3 months ago
@honsam23 cao cao n sunquan formed an alliance in the war, killed Guan Yu, Zhou Zhang, and Guan Yu's son
gillespy589 2 months ago
yan liang was caught off guard, sneaky guan yu!!
Skatolotodo 3 months ago
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Yan liang and wen chou are very skilld Wen chou almost kill Xu Huang,Zhang He and Zhang Liao but they Withdrawn
Asakura1414 4 months ago
Soriya!
Aperson1990 4 months ago
You know what's great at this version? The realism. Look at this scene, the wind how is raising the dust and how the troops can barely keep the flags.
So i am going to download this version!
TheOrientalEast 5 months ago
For real, he only killed Wen Chou, not Yan Liang! He became arrogant later and I started to hate his guts!
arrivederciliebe32 5 months ago
@arrivederciliebe32 In real History, Yan Liang actually was killed by Guan Yu in the battle of Baima, but not in the same way that was depicted in this video. Wen Chou on the other hand was killed in a proceeding battle, although it was not mentioned who struck the finishing blow. More likely it was Xu Huang or Zhang Liao than Guan Yu.
dynastywarriorlord07 3 months ago
xu huang didnt die in this battle
ilovethreekingdoms 5 months ago
4:35 is the best part.
97432561 5 months ago
wth hell Xu Huang was killed by Yan Liang
leo9078 5 months ago
@leo9078 Well, Xu huang was beaten and fell off the horse and then Zhang Liao rushed out and help him, soooooo not quite :3
Hellion369 5 months ago
Cao Cao uses Guan Yu.
It's super effective!
stevenmtaylor21 6 months ago 2
umbrella, not umbrealla
TheJoon123456789 6 months ago
Song Xian...not Song Xiang
HipHop42297 6 months ago
Guan Yu:Hhhgwwwyyyyyy Uyyyaa!
Guan Yu: Hey! Who did stat!!
Sniper: (Runs like hell away from Guan Yu!) Oh shit!Oh shit!Oh shit!
TMINEHART 6 months ago
Throughout the various series and movies like ROTK, Red Cliff 1 and 2, Three Kingdoms Resurrection of the Dragon, Three Kingdoms 2010, and The Lost Bladesman, there have been several selected actors who played the role of Guan Yu. The most notable ones are Lu Shu Ming who played Guan Yu in ROTK, and Yu Ronguang who played Guan Yu in Three Kingdoms 2010. Obviously, the ROTK version stands out the best in terms of emotion and script. But action-wise, I prefer the 2010 version.
LordCaoCao155 7 months ago
the best man in the novel was guan yu *_^
mu11champione 7 months ago
We are here talking about the novel :) the real story dosen't make sence to us :)
you don't even get alot from it and you don't know the right and wrong from it :)
i respect it ..
but people are more often to the novel :)
mu11champione 7 months ago
BEAT THE DRUMS TO BOOST MORALE! *Guan yu power rises to 100%* *Guan yu uses special swipe* *Yan Liang has taken critical damage* Yan is dead! Victory
Hyper131 7 months ago
YAN LIANG HAS FALLEN TO MY BLADE!
4525Reality 7 months ago
@MasamuneAzure You are right, but Shu also had Zhuge Liang and Pa Zheng in Han Zhong. Maybe if Guan Yu had Zhuge Liang or Pa Zheng, he may not lost as many as war he did.
However, I agree with you on Guan Yu not being as complete as the novel suggests.
kmc10314 7 months ago
@kmc10314 Well Zhuge Liang wasn't that great of a general or strategist. And Fa Zheng's abilities were not known.
MasamuneAzure 7 months ago
@MasamuneAzure One thing that needs to happen is that tho, re-evaluation on characters in Cao Wei. So many generals in Cao Wei were underestimated. In the novel, as you know Xu Huang was very underestimated. In the novel, he lost to Yan Liang, and even killed by Meng Da. In history, I might consider him to be as good as Zhang Liao. If you think about it generally everyone except Shu generals were underestimated.
This is the guy that broke siege of Fancheng with his wit and determination.
kmc10314 7 months ago
@kmc10314 I love Xu Huang :P . Xu Huang defeated Guan Yu with only a few thousand recruits, note recruits.
Guan Yu was a competent general, but he was more of a frontline raiding officer. If you need a man to charge and lead the vanguard/calvary, Guan Yu was it. But that was all Guan Yu was. His civil, diplomatic, and overall leadership is just poor.
MasamuneAzure 7 months ago
@MasamuneAzure
For Zhang Liao, you are right, but then in that war, Sun Quan did not have a strategist and Sun Quan himself was not even a great warrior / general.
I'm not die hard-Guan Yu fan, but as for Guan Yu's defense, he generally had to fight up with Cao Cao's army the most, which had plenty of smart and great generals.
Other generals in Shu either fight Cao Cao with Pa Zheng, Zhuge Liang, or recorded victory against generally inferior generals like ones in Shu.
kmc10314 7 months ago
@kmc10314 Sun Quan did have advisers and strategists. Doesn't mean he listened to them, nor can they predict a sudden attack by Zhang Liao.
During the Han Zhong campaign, Wei had several capable generals. Cao Xiu was a accomplished adviser, and generals like Zhang He, Guo Huai, Xiahou Yuan, and Cao Hong. Guan Yu lost to Li Tong, Yue Jin, Xu Huang, Wen Pin, and Cao Ren. Shu generlas at Han Zhong had to deal with equal capable officers as Guan Yu.
MasamuneAzure 7 months ago
Guan Yu fucked up hard by killing Yan Liang and Wen Chou.
theassortedjellybean 7 months ago
@MasamuneAzure, btw it's good to see someone not just totally believing ROTK, but also look into history. I honestly thing people in ROTK need to be re-evaluated, unless you accept the novel as it is.
kmc10314 8 months ago
@kmc10314 I just hate die hard novelist, once a guy argued saying Diao chan was real. And all he did was keep yelling it with no sources, even when i did show sources backing me that Diao chan wasn't real, he still went " SHES REAL!" great job Luo Guanzhong..
MasamuneAzure 7 months ago
@MasamuneAzure I really agree tho that Guan Yu is one of the most exaggerated person through the ROTK. In fact, I think in ROTK a lot of Shu generals are exaggerated just because they are Shu generals.
Lots of Wu and Wei generals are really underestimated and underrated.
kmc10314 8 months ago
@kmc10314 Novel = Shu is the best kingdom, with powerhouse of warriors and the amazing wizard Kongming. Even thought they lost in the end.
Zhang Fei however was better historically, and Zhao Yun was quite intelligent.
MasamuneAzure 7 months ago
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kmc10314 8 months ago
@MasamuneAzure What you said is true. Zhang Liao was really great general.
I personally think what Zhang Liao better general than Guan Yu. However, usually in all those battles, Wei armies had strategists with them. Cao Ren also had Man Chong when he was battling Guan Yu. It was Man Chong who gave him advices to Cao Ren rather than Cao Ren himself.
kmc10314 8 months ago
@kmc10314 Zhang Liao didn't have a strategist. At Han Zhong, strategist = Cao Xiu at most.
Xiahou Yuan defeating Han Sui and Qiang or conquering Liang = maybe zhang he.
Guan Yu did have Ma Liang at one point.
MasamuneAzure 7 months ago
@MasamuneAzure Overall when it comes to battles all of Shu general probably recorded less victories than ones in Wei since Wei generals usually had more numbers and more resources than Shu generals
kmc10314 8 months ago
@kmc10314 Wei general Zhang Liao, 800, against Sun Quan's greater army. Wei generals battled against yuan Shao, Shang, Tan, and Xi. They had less men, or equal. Cao Cao's generals against Yuan Shu, and Li Jue. They overcame greater odds. So did win even though they were disadvantaged.
Morale, tactics, and strategies are bigger factors then numbers.
Well sad for Shu right, they should have conquered their enemies and not let Cao Cao become the powerful foe.
MasamuneAzure 8 months ago
@MasamuneAzure I don't think you can just decide one is great general by the number of wins in the history. If you look at that way, overall none of Shu generals really had many victories unless they had Zhuge Liang on the camp. The reason, Guan Yu probably scored less victory compared to other generals in Shu, is probably he stayed in Jing Province instead of going to Shu. Lots of Liu Bei's generals recorded victory when they were facing Cao Cao with Zhuge Liang or attacking weaker armies
kmc10314 8 months ago
@Not victories.. Accomplishmetns, without accomplishments.. how can you base a general on how great he is? That's like going up to a farmer and saying " You have no military deeds, but I think you have talent!" <-- Make Sense? No. It doesn't matter if Guan Yu was in Jing, he had barely any accomplishments thus we CAN'T say he was a better general then those who did more. Plus in Jing, he was defeated several times by Wei generals.
MasamuneAzure 8 months ago
@kmc10314 It's true Shu was at a disadvantage, but not by a huge one. Also being at disadvantage doesn't mean Shu will win if they were even.
MasamuneAzure 8 months ago
@PhenomKBR
If you are talking about fiction, Guan Yu was good general, yet, he still was not the best warrior like you told everyone. In fiction, the greatest warrior was Lu Bu. To beat Lu Bu, Guan Yu, Zhang Fei, and Liu Bei had to come together. In Cao Cao's case, he use 6 general on Lu Bu.
How can you say Guan Yu is the greatest warrior?
kmc10314 8 months ago
This scene can also be seen in Guan Yun Chang the movie. The Lost Bladesman! =)
PTigris7 8 months ago
You all understand that he was a tall asian warrior, in a land of well asians lol same with Lu Bu or any other great warrior of that chaotic time. I understand you all fight from the stand point of the game. That is okay but not reality. Both Bu and Guan Yu were great men in their own accord. But Bu was more of a drinker, and ended his life as an alcoholic trapped within depression. That was not the case with Guan Yu. Neither were a brilliant strategist within maps and plots, They were warriors
paulrleppla 8 months ago
@WeNeedSomeGolfShoes Eh~ reply what you want. I'm gonna be the mature one yet AGAIN.
bye neanderthal. Don't forget. You lie about your heritage. look into the mirror and embrace your Nationality.
mikaelnigel1 8 months ago
@WeNeedSomeGolfShoes No actually that's how the insult goes. It's not supposed to be that long. It's less funnier if it spreads like your webbed feet.
mikaelnigel1 8 months ago
@WeNeedSomeGolfShoes I'm on a dependant's stay in SG but i'm sure i got some people confused. Well actually. I stopped "keyboard" Fighting. You started again you got no life. Na Kaleni, suka!
mikaelnigel1 8 months ago
and btw the decapitation looks kinda fake
Kamikaze5064 9 months ago
the Wen Chou goes and says for YAN LIANG!!
Kamikaze5064 9 months ago
@WeNeedSomeGolfShoes OH MY GOD! HAHAHAH! It gets better! Someone actually asked you "How's life in Amsterdam?" ahahha! you stupid shit! you're English? My nuts! you fucking Wanker. HAHAHA! you really hate you're stupid web-footed culture huh? you can't even spell right! "Mr. I-want-to-be-English" HAHAHAH!!
Fucking hell. What a stupid idiot.
mikaelnigel1 9 months ago
@WeNeedSomeGolfShoes Fancy a cup 'o' Tea? Fish and Chips perhaps? Eh! me house got blagged! Blimey! the ol' Bill made an arrest on your Mother! Oi! Wanker! Southern Fairy, Northern Monkey? which one are ya?
you're not English.. You can't even type right. You're from Netherlands. Lying Cock. It says on your Channel. Now why lie? Why? you hate you Culture that much? you're pathetic.. There's nothing worse than a guy whom neglects his heritage. *sigh*
YOU LIE ABOUT YOUR HERITAGE.
mikaelnigel1 9 months ago
@mikaelnigel1 It's actually funnier if it's shorter... -.-#
English man would've known that. I'm not gonna take something from a Jack-ass who lies about he's heritage.
Cheerio wannabe.
mikaelnigel1 9 months ago
@WeNeedSomeGolfShoes You spelled Singapore wrong. And guess. And your. And you. Also, your coming off as an asshole, wihch pormtps me to piont out yuor bad splienlg.
vonkreger 9 months ago
@vonkreger Hey, don't even bother about arguing with asses whom lies about their culture, nationality and race. It's pathetic. He's English and he can't spell, he can't give a proper insult, he know alittle too much about asian culture. What kind of English men does that? It say he's from Netherlands on he's channel, he's just a neanderthal web-footed breed. Don't bother to reply him.
mikaelnigel1 9 months ago
@WeNeedSomeGolfShoes really? you want to do this? alright you started it.
Compared with Greece and Italy, Holland is but a platter-faced, cold-gin-and-water country, after all, and a heavy, barge-built, web-footed race are it's inhabitants.
mikaelnigel1 9 months ago
I'm quiet happy there was a translation. It was quiet powerful.
drkahara 9 months ago
What's with CRACKAS infesting youtube these days?
sighsgkj 9 months ago
Wen Chou: FOR YAN LIANNNGGGG!!!
Guan Yu: SOYAH!
Wen Chou: HOUUUAAAGGHHHH
Sereniama 9 months ago
@WeNeedSomeGolfShoes Whatever. P.S it's my last year. I'm graduating in 5 months. how is it you lot say goodbye? errrr... Sayonara? Had fun fucking about with you.
mikaelnigel1 9 months ago
@WeNeedSomeGolfShoes Ain't you the same you bloody asian. Sit behind the screen and bother replying. Stupid Yellow wanker. You're yellow. you know why Asians are yellow? because you lot have been pissed on so much you eventually turned yellow.
mikaelnigel1 9 months ago
@WeNeedSomeGolfShoes ahhhh~~~ the goldfish tender speaks and read English. However don't for one second think you're not a waste of space because you are still a waste of space. Get this clear I only watched this video because i'm facinated by Asian culture. how they boast of they're Gods and men. Yet they are the weakest and picked on. To this day. Nothing will ever change mate. you lot will always be wankers.
mikaelnigel1 9 months ago
@WeNeedSomeGolfShoes You really have nothing in your life huh? I study law not history, and the term "believed to be" the word believed. It's a very strong and stupid word. A mere human became God because some wanker "believe" it so. I'd say.. You're either dumb or a bloody Jap to be standing up for that historic little yellow gezzer. Bollocks to your believes. If you are a goldfish tender then you lot really deserved that tsunami, quite sadly you lot managed to survive. Really a waste of space
mikaelnigel1 9 months ago
@mikaelnigel1
You never heard of apotheosis from the Romans? If you're really went to law school then I guess it's true what they say about where lawyers go in the afterlife.....
sighsgkj 9 months ago
@sighsgkj Should i really bothered by a 31 years old jack-ass sitting behind the computer doing nothing and worse off is you're in a crap country.
I won't even bother replying after this Haitian. you're 31. Do something.
mikaelnigel1 9 months ago
@WeNeedSomeGolfShoes He's not a God nor has he been claimed by any Japanese as the God Of War.
Plus this video is about Guan. Not Nagao Kagetora.
mikaelnigel1 9 months ago
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@mikaelnigel1
"@WeNeedSomeGolfShoes He's not a God nor has he been claimed by any Japanese as the God Of War.
Plus this video is about Guan. Not Nagao Kagetora."
Japanese eh? Methinks your watching the wrong video my friend.
a7777777122 9 months ago
me ,grand son of the grannd son of the grandson of the grandson of the grandson of the grandson of the grandson of the grandson of the son of master king Cao Cao like this video !! ,congratulation Guan YU !
Radikasadega 9 months ago
I HAVE KILLED YAN LIANG AS THE NEXT VICTICM OF BLUE DRAGON!!!
kyoshiromibu888 9 months ago
to be honest, i donno what the fuck zhangfei did beside the loud voice he made....zhangfei dont have epic fight like guanyu.
gkcnae 9 months ago
Omg I had to replay it cause I blinked and missed the part when he died
PichuGun 9 months ago
More like the god of righteousness and loyalty, things that go well in both business and war.
notmack 10 months ago
Cao Cao has a hard on for Guan Yu.
papalolita 10 months ago
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the casting here are the best so far
jiyefuuu 10 months ago
我观颜良 如插标卖首尔
ranbnzz 10 months ago
What? Xu Huang didn't die there; he was just defeated and forced to retreat.
DarkAdonisVyers 10 months ago
@ApprenticeOfAnubis Still meng da and liu feng refused to sent in reinforcements.
phobos685 10 months ago
yan lian's head so dirty...
999MightyMan 11 months ago
If Yuan Shao would of killed Liu Bei, Guan Yu might of become a rogue general like Lu Bu and took over China.
TheArtofUTube 11 months ago
Yan Liang's head stick on the pole for sale LOL LOL coolest joke ever (><)
NgJackal1990 11 months ago
bwahahaha, guan yu with the OG pose at the end
hollyhoodj 11 months ago
guan yu is my favorite warrior... hope all those wu bastards who betrayed him and liu bei are burning in hell to this day...
ZeroJinKui 11 months ago
@ZeroJinKui Damn you Fu Ci Ren and that other guy who betrayed Guan Yu at Fan Castle!
DamnedUsernameThing 11 months ago
guan yu !!!!
SanguineBullet667 11 months ago
so dynasty warriors was based on this movie?
d0wnfall25 11 months ago
@d0wnfall25 no, its based on a huge ass fucking play about the three kingdoms. romance of the three kingdoms.
KingWilli12495 11 months ago
IMO, Guan Yu was the strongest, both as a general and warrior, in the whole series. In earlier days, Guan Yu was Liu Bei's top strategist. Also, Yan LIang was kicking everyone's ass before Guan Yu killed him with one attack. In the end, Guan Yu only used forces and resources in his own jurisdiction but he forced Wei and Wu to join forces and they used their top generals(Xiahou Dun, Xu Huang, Pang De, Lu Meng, Lu Xun, etc.,) to do it.
PhenomKBR 1 year ago 10
@PhenomKBR Too bad Guan Yu got killed in a ambush
And Zhuge Lian is the strategist
Usedtoseeflagedvid 1 year ago
@PhenomKBR yea
Wei was defeated by guan yu several times
Guan yu captured pang de yu jin cao's chief generals and flooded cao's camps
Wu was jealous of guan yu's victory so they joined forces .. sad
phobos685 11 months ago
@PhenomKBR Historically Guan Yu sucked monkey balls. Joking, but he's not so great
MasamuneAzure 8 months ago
@MasamuneAzure totally agreed... Lu Bu can always kick his hairy ass
Derinfrekans 8 months ago
@Derinfrekans Lu Bu was a better general and warrior then Guan Yu. Smarter? Well they were both pretty dumb strategically.
MasamuneAzure 8 months ago
@MasamuneAzure and I'll have to disagree with you on lu bu being better than guan yu. lu bu's ability to lead cavalry was great but many historians say that lu bu's abilities were exagerrated to make the novel more interesting by Luo since Lu Bu created many conflicts.
PhenomKBR 8 months ago
@PhenomKBR Guan Yu's accomplishments = Killed Yan Liang on a raid, and avoided a natural flood that wiped out yu jin and pang de.
Everything else was fictional.
Lu Bu on the other hand won a duel against Guo Si. Defeated Cao Cao, Liu Bei, and Zhang Yan. And shot a halberd with a bow and arrow.
Lu Bu was historically better, and guan yu was much more exaggerated.
MasamuneAzure 8 months ago
@MasamuneAzure if you put it that way, cao ren and xiahou dun's accomplishments are nearly non-existent too, but somehow they made it so high in the ranks.
Also, even when Guan Yu surrendered to Cao Cao, he was given a rank as a general higher than ones like Yu Jin, Xu Huang, Yue Jin.
And there is a record that Cao Cao says that Yan Liang was so fierce that he regretted killing Lu Bu, but he thanked the heavens for having Guan Yu.
PhenomKBR 8 months ago
@PhenomKBR Cao Ren had many accomplishments, Xiahou Dun was a poor general, but was trusted by Cao Cao. Dun was a capable govenor that helped form the foundation of Wei.
Guan Yu was not promoted higher then other wei generals that you said. I don't know where you got that from.
Alright, so your basing Guan Yu's greatness by what the SUPERSTITIOUS chinese said bout the times and not his historical accomplishments?
Can you pm me your sources or these records?
MasamuneAzure 8 months ago
@MasamuneAzure Just like Cao Ren and Xiahou Dun, Guan Yu played an important role in forming Shu. He's the one who supported them from behind and kept what they had safe until it happened.
And Guan Yu did have higher rank when he surrendered. If you research harder, it's right there although it has a lot of limitation if your only language is english.
PhenomKBR 8 months ago
@PhenomKBR again PM ME your sources. Atleast tell me the title of your source like SGZ, ZZTJ, Hanshu, Rafe's Tomb!?
MasamuneAzure 8 months ago
@MasamuneAzure There is no way I base my judgement on superstition. I simply pointed out that people of THAT TIME considered Guan Yu to be the greatest, people like Cao Cao, his strategists, etc., I don't base my judgements on superstition. I find it funny that you think you know better than people who actually knew Guan Yu at that time. I think Korean, Chinese, and Japanese ROTK researchers would really love a talk with you since you know so well.
PhenomKBR 8 months ago
@PhenomKBR PEople DID NOT think he was the greatest. His ascension to the title of a GOD and people praising him CAME AFTER HIS DEATH and in the Sui-Tang Dynasties. Show me proof that shows records that says Guan Yu was the greatest from Cao Cao's strategist or whatever. east asian researchers will judge their knowledge and insight on actual accomplishments. Not what other say about them.
MasamuneAzure 8 months ago
@MasamuneAzure i'd give you all the proof but to be honest, i don't think you can read korean nor japanese. And its really stupid to argue about rotk in english because i know how shallow knowledge about it can be in this culture. everyone's entitled to their own opinions and i respect that you can be rotk grandmaster in youtube but i only stated things from credible sources.
PhenomKBR 8 months ago
@PhenomKBR That doesn't help you. Seems to me your avoiding on giving me sources. I'm not some grandmaster alright? Your making these claims on Guan Yu which I rebuttal. And if these sources are so credible, why are they not in Chinese?? Do the Koreans and Japanese know everything about China and refuse to translate their scripts? I am not a hypocrite and I'll cite my source of knowledge. Sanguozhi, Rafe De Crespigny's Tome, Hanshu, and Zi Zhi Tong Jian. These contain the most info on TK.
MasamuneAzure 8 months ago
@MasamuneAzure i just tend to be mature enough to drop out of keyboard battle when i see one, that's all. You can think what you want.
PhenomKBR 8 months ago
@PhenomKBR No one's throwing any insults. Excuses i say, excuses. DEBAUCHERY!
MasamuneAzure 8 months ago
@MasamuneAzure guan yu was conceited and lacked political insight and those led him to the loss but authors from both version of ROTK judge guan yu to be the greatest overall as a general and warrior. Historically, guan yu is definitely the strongest warrior. many people of the time judged Guan Yu to be the greatest of the era, including cao cao and his subjects. historically, guan yu was even judged to be a better warrior than lu bu.
PhenomKBR 8 months ago
@PhenomKBR People of the time, and authors can judge what they want. But I don't believe others just because they say so. I have my own judgement of people, and back it up with sources. Guan Yu killed Yan Liang in a raid. That was the highlight of his career as a warrior. His only other accomplishment was not being flooded during a natural flood which wiped out Yu Jin and Pang De. Those two are his only accomplishments. That does not make even a great general in my book. Good warrior yes.
MasamuneAzure 8 months ago
@MasamuneAzure i based my judgement on what people of that time thought. I think they would know better. Also, if he wasn't so good, why would liu bei even let him defend half of his land, instead of letting someone like zhao yun? Leading a large army is different from being in charge of a small army and a castle.
PhenomKBR 8 months ago
@PhenomKBR Again, show me proof of people of that time say bout Guan Yu. Ughh because Guan Yu was well trusted by Liu Bei and leaving his only powerbase at the time in Jing to Guan Yu was better than giving it to how NEW list officers that only serve him awhile. Guan Yu's work in Jingzhou was poor anyways. Zhao Yun was sent to aid Liu Bei in Yizhou along Zhang Fei and Zhuge Liang.
MasamuneAzure 8 months ago
what movie?
Rohalo2 1 year ago
Doesn't this scene remind you of playing DYNASTY WARRIORS? You ride your horse and all of the troops just stares at you.
magma3000 1 year ago
Yan Liang I have come for your head!
TIESTOdude 1 year ago 5
wth is this? i expected a little more... resistance from yan liang.
JRimRim 1 year ago
where can i watch these episodes
milkcookies6 1 year ago
@milkcookies6
U can see at Battle of Guan Du
wearemce2010 1 year ago
@wearemce2010 i meant where can i watch these not what battle
milkcookies6 1 year ago
there's a box set of like 30 video cd's, I got it as a gift but i'm guessing you would have to go to chinatown in Queens to find another
notmack 1 year ago
"Hmmm?"
"Hmmm"
3:14-3:16
Krow83 1 year ago
4:25 to the rest of the video...JIZZ IN MY PANTSS...
anonymous12337 1 year ago
(Mortal Kombat) Flawless Victory ... Fatality
sonpro2108 1 year ago
Guan Yu wins.....
Fatality....Flawless victory....
sega616 1 year ago
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keep press on 4:32 ahhhh hey!
QQ20034 1 year ago
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QQ20034 1 year ago
@silvermaniamania1 yeah maybe they are really a joke...however u quit acting like a keyboard warrior and internet fag and resolve it on the battlefield with the chinese?
bokboktuktuk 1 year ago 8
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what a fuckin joke!! these fuckin chinks would be nothing compare to great spartans!! XD
silvermaniamania1 1 year ago
@silvermaniamania1
I'm guessing you're a prepubescent little douche whose only knowledge of Spartans comes from the movie 300. Please refrain from further idiocy and go die somewhere.
JankyToe 1 year ago 2
@JankyToe these tiny tiny monkey chinks aint shit compare to Great Roman regions! these funny looking chinks aint nothing but midget compare to great Spartans!
silvermaniamania1 1 year ago
@silvermaniamania1 Spartans were certainly strong..but the Chinese were masters of strategy. No need to act like a racist redneck.
DeadSleepers 1 year ago
@silvermaniamania1
Haha.... You watch too much 300 or something?
Let's put all 750 Spartans against Gan Xing Ba..... Gan is sure to come out on top ;)
Krow83 1 year ago
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@silvermaniamania1
Id laugh if you were a funny looking guy yourself
Exilninja 1 year ago
@silvermaniamania1 You fuckin' Prick.
I bet an Asian is bullying you in school huh?
Spartans were strong, yes. you obviously know that as they were protrayed in the movies.
Wanker.
mikaelnigel1 9 months ago
@mikaelnigel1 no CHINKS are too fuckin small! they cant do shit! XD XD XD XD XD XD small hands, short, big fuckin head with ridiciouls hair!!! XD XD XD XD
silvermaniamania1 9 months ago
@silvermaniamania1 Oh no... Not only are you being bullied by a Asian... He Banged your mum.
I understand.. If that's not the case then... He banged your Sister? Wow... you are sad.
mikaelnigel1 9 months ago
@mikaelnigel1 stop telling me that you got little tiny dick! XD XD I already know that... XD XD XD
silvermaniamania1 9 months ago
@silvermaniamania1
Shut the fuck up, pussy face faggot. Why do you love talking about penis and dicks so much? This video is about General Guan.
No faggotry, gayness, nerds, or keyboard warrior allowed here.
If you are tired of life, just put a bullet through your face.
I will be gladly to help you if you don't know how. Get the fuck outta this video you little insignificant irrelevant worthless piece of nothing.
Got it?
Shaolinkungfucat 9 months ago
@silvermaniamania1 Not what your mum said. she loved it. i got it on with her allllll night long.
mikaelnigel1 9 months ago
Yan Liang, I have come fo your heeead. - Guan Yu
Cyrussaidwha 1 year ago
@soulslayer55000 yea..like in dynasty warriors...whatever just..hes 1 of the big role in rotk by koei.so if yan liang beat him? why the fuck is xu huang get the special role beyond few hundred characthers?!
cjandgunner35 1 year ago
@soulslayer55000
At this time, he was still inexperienced, especially when compared to Song Xian and Yan Liang.
SonnyAMan 1 year ago
Guan Yu doesnt give a fuck whos he fighting he knows hes gonna win,no one can beat him at that time.he only died cuz he got tricked
stevechen1991 1 year ago
@stevechen1991 thats wat make the wu kingdom a bitch to fight against, everytime wu is at a diadvantage somthin gets burned down and Gan Ning shows up :(
RandoManiac19 1 year ago
@stevechen1991 ERRKKKKSS!!
MasamuneAzure 1 year ago
关羽太帅了 霸气
jingyun1 1 year ago
怪了~徐晃怎ㄇ也輸@@"
a00110204 1 year ago
@soulslayer55000 um Xu Huang serves under Cao Cao. Guan Yu is there because he wants to pay back Cao Cao
9SoulFire9 1 year ago
lol xu huang died like that? wtf?
cjandgunner35 1 year ago
@cjandgunner35
No, Xu Huang was knocked off his horse, so he lost the duel and had to withdraw.
SonnyAMan 1 year ago
"Yan Liang has fallen to my blade" epic
Lilscheppy1995 1 year ago
how does xu huang die anyway
17365284 1 year ago
im confused why is xu huang here isnt he a wei officer
17365284 1 year ago
@17365284
cos this is the Cao Cao vs Yuan Shao in Guan Du.
halloffamer02 1 year ago
@17365284 hmm..why you think xu huang is not in Wei? hes fighting in the side of cao cao.
cjandgunner35 1 year ago
@cjandgunner35 wait a minute is this where guan yu stays with cao cao for a while
17365284 1 year ago
@17365284 lol yes..
cjandgunner35 1 year ago
*waits for 4mins..* omg here it comes! O.O *guan yu runs through and slashes yan liang head* what..? ive been waiting for this crap? D:< 5/5
mexiconian 1 year ago
lolo u can tell the blood is fake
wudude13 1 year ago
Pure Ownage
prankovalero 1 year ago
4:34 OUCH!!!
stuffismehname 1 year ago
was dynasty warriors a true story please please reply
jak1234567898765432 1 year ago
@jak1234567898765432 DW is based off from a novel "the romance of the three kingdom" by Luo Guanzhong in the 14th century based on the real history. The novel is 70% true and 30% false--exaggerated. Let's say that dynasty warriors is more exaggerated just bcuz many characters in the game can't fight, but more of strategists/intelligence type or politics type
kwanhui1990 1 year ago
@kwanhui1990 sooo do u believe its true?
jak1234567898765432 1 year ago
@jak1234567898765432 I already answered you. if you want to know more, google it
kwanhui1990 1 year ago
@kwanhui1990 f u cunt
jak1234567898765432 1 year ago
@kwanhui1990 Kinda like some of the female characters..Zhen Ji for instance..she never fought. But Guan Yu was extremely respected and very arrogant.
Nightshade323 1 year ago
Che-e-e-sy.... XD... for a good three kingdom movie rent "Red Cliff" and get the 2 disk international version one... good acting, good fighting scenes... top notch movie all around. Too bad it covers only the battle of chi bi
Capjae10 1 year ago