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  • He even called up the police on one of his mates that did the calls with him.. there were like 10 ppl doing the prank calls, they were all pretty epic.... but he got what was coming to him, he made alot of threats.... don't believe everything you hear on tv... cos his mum lied like crazy....

    he got caught out because his mum let it out that she heard him do some prank calls sometimes, and even said they were funny...

  • What I dont think people understand is that this guy did do a LOT!!!! of prank calls.... like im not talking about 10 or 20, im talking 100's...... He did what they said he did... there were more then 1 bomb threats....there were quite alot that he didnt get caught for....

  • The Patriot Act is an invasion of rights that can easily be misused. Liberty should almost never be sacrificed for security, especially in the name of 'terrorism'.

    I'm surprised it took something like this to wake a lot of people up.

  • This guy basically says "I used to like the patriot act, back when the president was a republican..... But now that that nigger is in office, whos abusing it a lot less than George Bush.

    Is the country fascist or socialist? this fucktard needs to get off his propaganda

  • you have to add the h t t p and w w w youtube wouldnt let me

  • actaully he did make the calls his mother admitted it check this out it even has the audio of him making the prank calls what a idiot... wired.com/threatlevel/2009/07/­lundeby-indictment/

  • I was for the patriot act at first, but after I thought about it, a few weeks after it passed, I realized it was fascistic.

    I love how Liberals hated Bush and he was a fascist, fascist, fascist when he passed the Patriot Act, but Obama not only extends it, but passes other motions very similar to the Patriot Act he's still wonderful. What a bunch of miserable, idiotic hypocrits.

  • @conservativeco

    I disagree. This had nothing to do with the patriot act to begin with.

    Elaborate. What other motions that were fascist did he pass?

  • @shoopoop21 It had quite a bit to do with the Patriot Act. Look back under the story, the whole justification of her arrest was because of the Patriot Act.

    Bush also passed TARP. Looking at history, that's exactly how Mussolini ran his economy. He controlled the means of production, but not the distribution.

    I wouldn't say that Bush was a fascist, but he certainly wasn't a small government conservative.

  • It was my understanding that they had a warrant for HIS arrest. Was I mistaken?

  • @shoopoop21 What did they use to justify the arrest? The Patriot Act. Did you watch the video?

  • I am quickly coming to the conclusion that you don't know how the patriot act works...

  • @shoopoop21 I am quickly coming to the conclusion that you blindly follow anybody so long as they have an (R) next to their name. And, you still haven't watched the video.

  • stole the ip adress? lol!

  • Wow, how ironic. "PropagandaBuster". Why do I sense you'll be at Glenn Beck's rally next month.

  • Welcome to the club of people who hate the Patriot Act

    Most of us realized it was bad when Bush first implemented it

    It's ok that you were a little slower, it's understandable that a person like you wouldn't mind a policy as long as it was implemented by a Republican, but would be livid if implemented by a democrat. Hypocrisy is every conservative's middle name

    Next time a Republican does something unpatriotic CALL HIM ON IT right away, don't wait on the next administration!

  • That always was strange to me. When Bush enacted Patriot Act, he was golden, even though it was broad enough that it could be "used irresponsibly by [the next administration]", but when Obama supposedly uses it, its outrageous. It sounds more like its only safe, and fair when used by republicans, or to attack specific targets. I also find it strange that they are only now outraged by the acts original purpose, to be able to perform anti-terrorism without warrants.

  • Duuuuuuuuuude.

    You don't even know how computers work. Blatently. Plus, innocent or not, what they did was to be better safe than sorry. It's not like they beat the guy =\

  • @lilmissfoxygirl You don't know shit what he's been through. I personally knew this kid and he went to my school. There is no way in hell I believe the allegations against him and fully believe this is testament to political power abuse at its finest.

    America isn't a free country and it has never been one. Once they deem you a terrorist, your life is over. He has suffered more than you can imagine and I spit on you for joking about this.

  • If you found out he was a terrorist for sure, without a doubt, would you change your mind?

    If he did commit the crime, would his treatment have been fair?

    What do you define as a terrorist?

  • @lilmissfoxygirl PT2 - Ashton has been charged with making many bomb threats. Ashton and even the MOTHER has now admitted that Ashton IS the online personality "Tyrone." Tyrone set up a paypal account and in return for payment from students, he would call schools, universities and even 911 claiming that he had planted bombs in the school/university set to go off at X time. i.e. the point was to close down the schools so kids could have a day off. So this story is bogus

  • Your voice is annoying. But that guy who got arrested is pretty hot x-]

  • @lilmissfoxygirl google "teen ashton lundeby charged as an adult for making bomb threats" you can hear the recording at wired --dot-- com of the actual bomb threats (like 10 of them). They're pretty funny actually but it doesn't change the fact that the guy obviously did it and most important the whole thing had NOTHING to do with the Patriot Act as everyone involved now admits. I'm not a fan of the Patriot Act but pple blow all their credibility when they make up idiotic stories like this

  • It's not abusing the Patriot act... the patriot act is abuse itself. It's an act that is not legal...... Did you vote for bush?

  • You used to support the Patriot Act until you read this, Mr. ProgandaBuster?

    I'm sorry you're such a dumbfuck shit for brains idiot.

  • Wow gone are our rights as citizens

  • wow...this is another overreaction by the government on a large scale

  • I miss Tyrone.

    Fuck them.

    This is ridiculous.

  • Somalia Militants Kill Christian As Attacks Spread

    Monday, May 3, 2010 (10:17 am)

    By BosNewsLife Africa Service with reporting by BosNewsLife's Stefan J. Bos

    Al-shabab militants have killed over a dozen Christians in the past year, several groups say.

    MOGADISHU, SOMALIA (BosNewsLife)-- Fighters of Somalia's feared Islamic militant group al-Shabab have killed another Somali Christian as part of an apparent crackdown on "non-Islamic culture," rights activists said.

  • He wasn't held under the patriot act. Its a law that you cannot make bomb threats, its been like that for 70 years.

  • this is genius! they probably did this on purpose to that "christian, patriotic, conservatives" will finally realize that the patriot act is a piece of shit.

  • Go on... Give revolution a go. If the government can get away with THIS, they dont deserve to be in power frankly.

  • hey hey hey one of the greatest musical numbers of all time gets 2 seconds of air!? tis a lovely hymn :)

  • i'll just sit back and wait for you to come to the realization, good sir. that your precious america has been bought and paid for a long time before you were born, that the left and right political parties in america are like pepsi and coke. they compete for the consumer but they are both bad for you. if you want an example of a real republican. look into ron paul. I thought seeing bush and obama still favouring war would be enough to wake people up but i s'pose my expectations were too high.

  • I don't believe that the government is actively at war with conservative Christians...but regardless of the boy's religion, this is clearly an abuse of power by the federal govt. Almost makes me ashamed of America :(.

  • As a christian conservative (proud)...

    I am upset to see the the party I have supported (GOP) for so many years, now is moving so far to the right that I can no longer support them...

    I may be a little out of touch, but I'm no fool to believe the bullcrap, scare tactics of the right...

    however, the democrats are certainly NO Better...

    I suppose, if Christ was a Socialist, that maybe third party is the best way to VOTE.

  • Finally a real conservative!

  • He was never being held under the patriot act. His mother lied. His mother tried to blame everything on me... which was bullshit.

    tl;dr: the patriot act is still bullshit, but he wasn't arrested under it.

  • So you don't belive in the Patriot act because they arrested a white child, 'oh God what has America come to, lets blame it on the AfroAmerican President.'

    If it was done to protect Our Great Nation than so be it. I bet that will teach that kid not to make prank bomb threats. LOL

    Lets be thankful the kid never shoot up the dam Public Library.

  • /watch?v=i6ipKjGs7bQ

  • So now your againts it because a white christians got arrested

  • lol i remember listening to this guy on ventrillo i knew he was gonna get rickrolled like a btard by over 9000 mudkips

  • Hey guys how long is this kid gonna be in prison because he got 8 fucking bomb threat charges and he is being treated as an adult.

  • dude i listin and watched them do the bomb threat you cud pay him 10 bucks on paypal to do it to your school

  • I read that patriot act..I warned you conservative Christians to beware of throwing so much power into the government hands, expecially when it comes to focusing on religious types. If this kid did the exact thing yet he was muslim or someother religion you would have NEVER made this video. Also, quite naive of you to equate christianity with patriotism. I am STILL mad that the dems havent removed it either..seems every side is mad about it until THEY get control of it, then its okay.

  • Holy fuck this nut rambling is an idiot. He did it, we all know it. If you don't know don't take everything you hear on the news as fact.

  • this little punk sold admisions to other punks to "watch" online while he made several bomb threats to governmrnt instutions.he deserves all he is being handed.

    do some research before you stand up for the little punk.

    wired-com/threatlevel/2009/07/ lundeby-indictment/

    he caused dispatches of police and swat teams and cost cities thousands.

  • o-my gosh,can't we all see what things are coming too ? the patriot act is against your rights.the constitution is gone people.

  • i knew this kid he did make bomb threats but they where all empty threats meant to get people to donate to him for prank calls lmao. hes such a idiot

  • i met him on saturday in porter county juvinile detention center and then did a little research and he said he didnt make the threats and that his skype acount got hacked

  • nobody has any rights anyway. They can be stripped from you at the drop of a hat, and don't forget it. Rights are an illusion, that are meant to keep people quiet.

  • I agree with her description of future terrorists. In this case this boy did none of those things.

  • To make it easy for you, anywhere along the Rio Grande.

  • Sorry it has to be Texas. Do not be offended but you are not worth me traveling for.

  • Understandable. When can I expect you to come to Texas? May I suggest September, as it is not that hot then?

  • Still happy, thanks!

  • Your comment made me happy. Thanks!

  • You realize the newest PATRIOT ACT was shoved through by the Bush administration? Obama has nothing to do with this; he has expressed dismay at the patriot act but unfortunately hasn't done much. Also, you flash a hammer and sickle. Communist symbol. And then you talk about socialism. Do you realize the two are completely different? But it seems you've made a collective enemy in your own mind. Would this even be an issue for you if not for: A. DAMN OBAMA and B. Defending homeschooling practices?

  • And you wrote:

    "And then you talk about socialism. Do you realize the two are completely different?"

    My reply is a quote:

    "The goal of socialism is communism."

    ----Vladimir Lenin

  • Conveniently, I suppose that's the only thing you'll take his word on?

  • I take his word on communism, because he as a commie knows his fellw commies.

  • Socialists wouldn't agree with him. You wouldn't normally agree with him; not all communists would agree with him. The two systems are wholly different. You're comparing them because it's convenient.

  • Please do not be upset with my reply that you are wrong about my comparing them and why.

  • I don't know about being upset, but a general lack of knowledge and detest of intellectualism towards a century's worth of political systems would invoke a negative reaction from anyone who actually cares.

  • FREE TYRONE (ASHTON LUNDEBY)

  • Nope he's in court tomorrow.. i think... good luck tyrone...

  • Good night sweet prince.

  • I check the news wires every couple of days and so far no news.

  • LOL TYRONE

  • this kid gotta have norwegian anes, lundeby is a norwegian name^^

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  • Ok also note he was not arrested due to being a church member. Were did you get the quote from Janet P? Whats your source?

    He was arrested for making threats. You offer as poof of his innocence that his computer was not turned on. 2 points

    1 passwords can be stolen, even if he did not make the threats they could have been made from his account. he is responsible for all activity on his account

    2. Web based and can be accessed from any computer. He didnt have to use THAT computer.

  • So you honestly think Janet Reno Napolitano would state he was arrested for being Christian? If you do, can I sell you a bridge in Brooklyn?

    1 -- One is NOT responsible for activity on an account if it can be proven the security has been compromised.

    2 -- So you are saying he used a computer at church during services?

  • I never said he said that I am saying you said that in your title. you made that claim I just responded, to your title. You are right if you can PROVE that you account was compromised you MAY be relived of the responsibility however that would need to be proven, this has not been accomplished yet. Keep in mind that accounts can be reached on cell phones as well. I am not say this is what happen it is just a possibility.

  • So what has been going on in this area lately? Still upset that your beloved PATRIOT ACT backfired? If you vote Republican you deserve to be a victim of it.

  • The Patriot Act worked and casued no harm. If it is so bad then how come the Democrats who control the government now have not repealed it?

  • Democrats are also pieces of shit, usually the blue dogs. (not as much as the Republicans though!) Most of them voted on this stupid thing when it was first introduced. I wish we had some real liberals in congress. (sorry conservatives the guys in power now are not liberal quit living in a fantasy world)

  • News flash to Joe402

    True conservatives didn't want the Patriot Act! Conservatives want as small government as possible! No, Bush was not a real conservative.. yes he was a republican.. that is half of the problem. Most of these so-called Republicans are really people like you.. Liberals...

  • lol you got taken over by religious findamentalists

  • ugh I mean fundamentalists death to typos

  • please explain? I shall find this entertaining!

  • Hello we are christian fundamentalists who are mad over the democrats giving blacks civil rights hmm what party can we call home now? Oh I know THE REPUBLICANS! PARTY OF VALUES!!1!!!!

  • shame on you for ever wanting the patriot act. :(

    "give me liberty or give me death!"

    "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely"

    all through history you see when you give up your rights at first the abuse is the exception and then later it ALWAYS becomes the expectation!!!

    fuck the patriot act. fuck the federal reserve. fuck the patriot act fuck the obama zombies who think he's jesus. if you want the real truth listen to alex jones. that's the only guy saying it.

  • I love the way the "normal" looking Americans only wake up when they find out it affects them too. The Uniting and Strengthning America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001 Obama re-signed the PATRIOT ACT the same as McCain would have done. It's better to wake up late then never, you could be the next one they come for. Maybe you should all read the ACT, you'll find it very broad in defining terrorists.
  • The patriot act is good... and anyways, this person isn't being held under the patriot act, annatte lundeby lied, supposedly. I'd read up on the wired article.

  • nobody really cares if it is muslims or hispanics or any other non white group. Now that it is a white christian child as he claims its a problem. Maybe now something will get done about the patriot act. Remember in America its not a crime until it happens to a white person.

  • supadjdnb1: Can you please show me a news article or any reference to where a child who is a citizen of the USA and is Muslim, Hispanic, or any other "non-white" that was arrested under the Patriot Act?

  • Yea we have a great president and I ride the titanic every day. eh comrad

  • The boy admitted to prank calls, however, officials believe he did in fact make bomb threats on behalf of other students who had paid him to do so. He does have due process, a lawyer and will have a trial. When I first heard of this story, I was as outraged as yourself. I always felt the Patriot act ws a mistake. Its good to know this particular case was not what it seemed. That being said. I think you`re attempting to misdirect the anger of your viewers at the current admin. Lets see what comes

  • I have to correct you there, Its not the Obama administration that is abusing the Patriot Act. Its key officials in the Federal District Attorney`s Office. Obama has nothing to do with this case. That being said, the Patriot Act should have never been enacted.

  • Who appoints the Federal District Attornyes?

  • The current FDA was appointed within the previous administration, not the current.

  • Have you ever heard the term, "no action is an action?" A new administration has the right to replace any FDA's and appoint new ones. If they leave previous FDA's in place then they either agree with their execution of the job. Or if not, and still not replaced, then the administration takes all responsibility for their tacit approval of the FDA's work.

  • As it turns out. During this case, at no point was the Patriot Act enacted. The mother made that up for whatever reason. The boy confessed to calling in pranks but not admitting to bomb threats.

  • The dust still has not cleared on this issue. Making prank calls is not the same as the bomb threat he was arrersted for.

  • When I was 11 I got to pick out my carpet for my bedroom. I picked a carpet that was red white and blue stripes like our flag. That is when I first sensed that I might be a domestic terrorist, ha ha.

  • Next there will be a knock at your door also.

  • Pigs will fly when Islam comes out of the dark ages

    I will vote for a democrat the day Islam crawls out of the 7th century. Ill even sing praises to president Osama Obambi and respect him as my commander in chief rather than my retard in cheif who cant be trusted.

  • crusades were in the past

    Notice his moral relativity? Everything compares to everything. Garden slugs are like televisions and dogs are like wheat.

    He isnt educated enough to know that muslim aggression sparked the crusades. Muslims attmpted to invade and dominate many nations throughout western and eastern europe. The warrior Europeans of the past sent them running home to mommy, the retard Europeans of today gave them every square inch and left themselves with nowhere to live.

  • All conservatives jack off to dead Iraqi kids. See I can make things up too!

  • This is very sad situation ,now the blood thirsty attorneys and legal system will physically and mentally bankrupt her. The one thing that really disturbs me is when she does not believing firearms. If more people did, authorities will not be so willingly kick peoples doors in.

  • If more people did, authorities will not be so willingly kick peoples doors in.

    Good point. They dont believe in having the means to fight back, and look where it leaves them.

  • Thank you, someday people will wake up ,I hope

  • nvm im done, you' live on in your world, i'll live on in my world. reality will show us which one is real.

  • "Evangelicals haven't killed anybody who hasn't wanted to convert nor have they had any protests against anything that insulted Christianity. "

    OH PLEASE> PLEASE!!!

    creationist alone should be enough man.. THEY CONSTANTLY play the victim card.

  • creationist alone should be enough man

    Where and when did they riot in the streets, hijack aircraft, or bomb pubs? They went to court and lost, nothing blew up afterwards. You are comparing apples to pick up trucks as part of your standard leftist moral relativity belief system.

  • "Also Northern Ireland is much less violent today than it has been in the past. It's also much more peaceful than any Muslim country."

    and because tomorrow it this will be the past, this matters?

  • "Meanwhile you're stupid enough to claim that the Koran and the Bible are the same thing, when they're not. "

    again you fail to see point. and again. not my problem.

  • "Except I can't name any Christian countries that stone women to death for being raped yet I can name plenty of Muslim countries that stone women to death for being raped."

    again, do i have to spell it out.

    islamic cultural dark dark age, same thing with the large amount of creationists in these countries, they're just gonna have to crawl out of it. the intellectuals there know that.

  • "And that Christians spread lies and ignorance but Islam doesn't?"

    i NEVER said islam doesn't so that.

    "And you have so many freedoms such as hate speech laws or hate crime laws"

    US, BLACKS

    "And you can take the stupid liberals in my country since they hate freedom themselves and want to force me to pay for their lazy asses."

    way to strawman welfare.

  • "So a culture or a religion that stones women to death for being raped is equal to a culture or a religion that doesn't stone women to death for being raped?"

    lol.... read the old testament.

  • "

    You're more than happy to fight off Christianity but not willing to fight off Islam.

    "

    failbot.

    SECULAR

    again, i explained the sharia in britain, it's adopted as a service, not as "the law".

  • "But Eurotrash tend not to like freedom of speech'

    eurotrash like me facepalmed of the islamic world's response at the danish cartoons.

    "Islam is trying to turn the whole world into either Saudi Arabia or Iran, idiot.

    "

    you probably missed the point of that bible and koran comparison too didn't you...

  • "Under the act, the sharia courts are classified as arbitration tribunals. The rulings of arbitration tribunals are binding in law, provided that both parties in the dispute agree to give it the power to rule on their case. "

    so it's not forced on any1. not like the BRITISH law is.

    but no, im not condoling this, but then again, it's not forced, it's just another service for the people who desperately want it. like Islamic banking.

  • yeah they give me a good laugh now and then.

  • "Islam is trying to turn the whole world into either Saudi Arabia or Iran, idiot." yeah right. dude you believe in propaganda.

    "And nobody is spreading fear or hate for criticizing Islam just like people criticizing Christianity or anything else isn't spreading fear or hate."

    - no christian fundis spread lies and ignorance.

    We actually have more freedom than you think. I've been to the states a number of times and i have friends who live/lived there. THEY ALL PREFER EUROPE!

  • "fundamentalist Islam and fundamentalist Christianity. "

    if you look at the way they both literally interpret their holy books, no.

    on culturale factors, yes, there's lots of differences.

    but you again seem to NOT GET THE DAM POINT.

  • "Name one Muslim country that has polygamy outlawed." what? because by the definition you're implying , you're gonna exclude secular countries like turkey.

  • "Of course you're going to say that Islam isn't bad b/c you claim that Islam is a victim of Westernization, which you consider to be a bad thing."

    no?!

    because islam is just another religion, and you can;t fuck the many because of the few.

    "Westernization, which you consider to be a bad thing. "

    no?! just the way it's beign forced on these people, in a way the obviously don't like. srly, even a simple cartoon like southpark can make this point clear.

  • yeah right. BULLSHIT!

  • tunisia. has polygamy outlawed.

  • "In other words, you're willing to let Islam rule your continent"

    WHAT?!

    AGAIN, NO FUCKING TREAT.

    no secular country will EVER allow shira law.

  • fundamentalists.

    both fundis from christianity and islam does dmg.

    and that is only a minor minor part of the whole religion that is fundamentalistic.

  • "And it's easy to see why the Muslims are coming to Europe b/c you won't fight back and you have a much more generous welfare system that they can mooch off of."

    when they aren't functioning in society and paying taxes like the rest of us....which isn't really the case with most first and second generations fo muslims. hell, we have more problems with the native youths then the third generation immigrants.

  • difference: not better than western culture.

    No one is above another person for their culture and religion.

  • "So people are paranoid for wanting to protect themselves from Islamic theocracy?"

    even when there is no real threat?

    again. islam isn't trying to turn the west into Iran, or saudi arabia.

    "And should people be jailed for insulting or criticizing Islam? " nope, but they should be criticized for spreading fear and hate.

  • that's not gonna happen.

  • why the hell would we want to fight off people because of their religion?!

    You don't know shit about our system and what i do.

  • "Except you don't see Christians committing violence in the name of Christianity, idiot. " HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....can you be any more ignorant...there are now, and historically PLENTY of examples. why? because religious intolerance is also inspired by your own religion.

  • LOL you don't even have to go outside religion to find that.

    Ireland. catholics VS protestants.

    Oh and there were crusades that was against non believers.

  • "But of course you forget that there are no Christian theocracies that exist."

    not anymore...but christianity still is a powerfull influence in many states.

    "You also have retarded hate speech and hate crime laws. "

    ehm....US, blacks?

    "And countries like yours punish economically successful people and force them to provide for economic losers like you."

    helping out others suddenly because bad because??? and yes, even the rich profit from socialism.

  • "when Islam allows men to marry up to 4 women,"

    oooold testament.

    and cultural factors, just like arranged marriages.

    "women can be stoned to death if they're victims of rape, women and children are beaten by Islamic men."

    and moderate muslims practice that how? just like moderate christian practice the old testament i think.

  • HA, i saw a on fox a news flash about a guy named joey who made beating bat for children in the name of the lord.

  • "Actually a liberal Christian would be fine with fundamentalist Christians being shot, idiot.

    Christians don't have the same ridiculous alignments that Islam has. "

    are you telling me that a liberal christian would be fine with another human being BEING SHOT!!!??

    DUDE

  • my point was that islam isn't all that bad and that i ground that statement in that i know and have met a big number of muslims that didn't have anything against me, but then again i'm not american.

    "By getting down on your knees and opening your mouth wide you arent having a positive effect. You are just being dominated by a stronger being who you cannot change no matter how nice you kiss it."

    - WTF are you trying to say?!

  • no one praised islamic culture, your rephrasing it. The bible also states that you can stone disobedient children.

    "women and children are beaten by Islamic men."

    - yeah that will happen with christians as well.

  • "When was the last Christian suicide bombing, idiot?"

    ehm...suicide bombing has more to do with the resources available, its just cheaper and easier.

    so i fail to see your point. plenty of christians are willign to die for their faith too you know.

  • to right m8

  • "Except Muslims are out to kill everybody else who isn't a Muslim"

    except they aren't....

    well they are...in your paranoid delusions..

  • "That's b/c you're willing to surrender to the Islamists due to retarded white man's guilt. "

    lol....you're missed the point...GJ

  • "

    But it seems like today's Europeans (especially people like you) won't fight back against Islam and are more than happy to let Islam conquer Europe b/c you want to look tolerant."

    mmmmmmmmmmmmmm paraniod delusions. or you should look at evangelicals.

  • today's Europeans (especially people like you) won't fight back

    Thats the point I made. He doesnt understand why I call him a refugee. Some of me wants to tell him what submitting to a new majority in ones homeland means, but the rest of me is amused by his teen stupidity.

    look tolerant

    Their new majority isnt going to look too tolerant when they push all of the natives out and leave them to the mercy of the winds. Nobody will welcome weaklings, I dont want them here.

  • capitalist asshole. they don't come to american cuz it sux and they don't get any help at all and everyone hates them. no wonder they come to europe where we take care of them.

    and don't come with the whole "we defended your country"-crap. You didn't.

  • "Their new majority isnt going to look too tolerant when they push all of the natives out and leave them to the mercy of the winds."

    except the fact that lots of them assimilate and even then, we still outnumber them even if they didn't. again islam isn't out to detroy you, any more then christianity is out to convert you....i know you're gonna misinterpret that anyway..so what the hell.

  • "If the many so-called peaceful Muslims are pissed off about the violent Muslims being killed, t"

    ehm..oversimplifying a bit aren't you?

    (just one point)

    would a liberal christian like it if a muslim shot a fundie, just because he was a fundie?

  • the last christian suicide bombing wtf do we not praise people who lay down there lives for there country?

  • lol in another country? wtf man.

  • what kind of point is that so no english or american soldier was heroic in WW2? funny eh....

  • hip hop can go and die. They can't sing, dance, play any instrument nor can they dress themselves good. They have no style.

  • "defending Islam"

    because im not conding the radicals.

    you know...the people you think all muslims are.

    idiot.

  • Not the Muslims i know.

  • you forgot the secular countries...

  • "you're willing to coddle up to the Muslims just b/c they refuse to get out of the dark ages."

    "f your method was tried to bring Christianity out of the dark ages, Christianity never would've reformed. "

    lol christianity actually did that by itself and then in 1500s it was islam who helped them, by bringing them into contact with the classics.

    corduba

    oh and this islamic dark age didn't just start 100 years ago, it's been going on for quite some time.

  • why would you adopt a culture that you do not believe in? that's BS.

  • "telling the truth about Islam is spreading fear."

    lol..failbot.

    saying all christians are out to kill all muslims...is that tellign the truth of christianity?

    GJ at fuckign yourself over with a reverse engineering argument.

  • well it sure beats fundamentalist Christians!

  • "In other words, you hate Western culture and love Islamic culture since you're defending Islam in every way.'

    no, again if you canot see this, not my problem.

    "why aren't they assimilating into Dutch society"

    ehm...because we see the few who don't? all the other assimilated just fine. again TV->exaggeration, few=/= the many.

  • PS: by killing of those few, and pissing of the many, you;re not promoting the many to take care of the few. in fact you're riling the many to stand against you WITH the few. but hell. the entire conflict in the middle east is to complex for such a simplification. i;m not gonan give my self to this sole point

  • in fact you're riling the many to stand against you

    By getting down on your knees and opening your mouth wide you arent having a positive effect. You are just being dominated by a stronger being who you cannot change no matter how nice you kiss it.

    Wilders is the last real man in all of Europe, the only european left who deserves respect. That guy hasnt been on his knees for a second throughout his life, you will spend the rest of your life on yours however.

  • "Your 17 year old hip hop self is born of a cultureless,retarded wonderland ruled by political correctness and invisible child molesters who want you to suck cock."

    OMFG i can not believe how much bullshit that is.

  • "And excuse Western society for killing off the violent Muslims and if you have to take a stand as to whether or not you support Western culture or Islamic culture."

    lol way to yet again restate the with or against" argument. no that that is valid or anything.

  • "you're just an excuse maker for the Muslim violence in the world."

    no

    if you fail to understand why not, that's you;'re problem.

    "And I haven't seen any Christian theocracies nor have I seen any violent Christian movements NOW, idiot."

    look deeper.

    "In other words, you're a defender of Islam and a hater of Christianity. " eeeehm no.

  • "how come they're not the ones who are kicking out the violent ones? "

    because it's not that simple.

    but one of the reasons is because we are interfering, and driving the moderates up against us aswell. we're actually SLOWING the process.

    oh and way to phrase the "you're with us, or against us" argument with you're accusation of communism ("right to bare arms, right to private property, states rights, and capitalism.")

  • "The inquisition was in the past, idiot."

    never overlook history man,

    WWII was in the past, and yet still it's sentiments live on in israel and palastine

    "Islam has always been violent and continues to be violent NOW."

    and Christianity isn't? you might want to look deeper into the christian influences of our society, they aren't all good.

    "You're against freedom of speech, freedom of religion,"

    no i'm not. i'm just up against people labeling the many what only a few are.

  • "So the Muslims trying to conquer the Netherlands aren't hateful and ignorant "

    lol...muslims where never trying to conquer NL, the part of that from fitna was quote mined. most muslims like NL, they like what NL offers them, and they aren't orthadox. they however hate the anit-islam standpoint most of the west takes, just because of a minority they don't approve of either.

    "who want to preserve the superior Western culture,"

    -_- srly, im not gonna argue this, it's unarguable for you.

  • "But of course you're retarded enough to say and believe that all cultures are equal. "

    ehm..are all people equal? you might want to have a look at human rights.

    ofc people can act out of ignorance, but hell, you'll need to educate them on that. but simply saying "our culture is the best!" ISNT A FUCKING SMART WAY TO EDUCATE THEM.

    women rights need spreading in the middle east, how are you gonna do that? start a war? no. you stimulate foreign idea's into their society through trade,and educate

  • "So it's ok for Muslims to spread hate against non-Muslims but it's not ok for "

    NO! FFS i DON'T condone their behavior. it's wrong. BUT SO IS TAKING THESE PEOPLE AND THEN CLAIMING ALL MUSLIMS ARE LIKE THAT!

    and acting EXACTLY the same way as them, isn't goign to solve the issue.

    "non-Muslims to stand up to the Muslims trying to take over their country?"

    srly....you're referrign to the shaira aren't you? i agree on that. no Islamic laws in a secular country, and not 2 judicial systems.

  • Sorry to burst your paranoid bubble, but the kid's mother has admitted that Ashton regularly phoned in fake bomb threats to schools - in exchange for online payments from people who wanted to miss a day of school.

  • Well we'll have to wait and see what happens.

  • The quote by Jefferson by Buster is right on but he shows his superficial and ultimately ingenuine attachment to such Ideals when he critiques Greek and European rioters. They were exactly on point in what they did! The government should fear US! We need to be more like them.

  • "its the patriot act itself"

    The patriot act was intended to allow law enforcement better information sharing. The new red administration is using it to arrest whole classes of people liberals dont like.

    "target other groups"

    Violent factions calling for revolution were targeted during the Bush admin, now its anyone in disagreement with YOU.

    "stay away from christian conservatives"

    Other than offending you what violent terrorist acts are they commiting?

  • ""target other groups"

    Violent factions calling for revolution were targeted during the Bush admin, now its anyone in disagreement with YOU."

    like..any arabic person who steps on a flight.....do you have any idea of the discrimination this thin allows? again...its the bloody patriot act what'ss to blame. NOT Obama.

    oh and have you any idea of the "religious right" who are trying to turn the US into a theocracy? you know..the people who'll start with teaching creationism as science...