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  • @dejesusluisx logical fallacy alert!!!

    Argument ad populum. Just because a lot of people believe it. THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT IS CORRECT.

    you make the claim that there is a god. The burden of proof is ON YOU.

    *sunglasses* deal with it.

  • "I am an atheist because there isn't any demonstrable evidence for the existence of a deity" - Well, if there was demonstrable evidence that god existed, what would be the point of religion?

  • @myassin2009 Exactly. There is NO POINT to religion. You win the gold star!

  • @AtheistinFundyLand You can't read? 

  • Wow, ZebrasFirst must have an enemies list a mile long now...

  • I've got something to say, God tells Adam and Eve not to eat from the tree that bears the fruit of Knowledge of Good and Evil and they failed. What's the punch line? To follow what God said, you've gotta know what's good and evil in first place, and you can't hold someone accountable if you gave them more than you knew they could do. Anyone that does is a bigot and shouldn't be followed in the first place. Plus, this disproves Original Sin and thus, proves everything unimportant after that story

  • In a small rural town a little boy was giving away kittens. He was yelling "Free Christian Kittens, Free Christian Kittens" The local minister walking by had the biggest smile on his face. Well the following week the little boy is in front of the store yelling "Free Atheist Kittens" The minister hearing this questioned the boy as to why the change. Last week christian and this week atheist? Little boy replied "they opened their eyes"

  • God gave us the choice the hate Him or to love Him.

    Babies shouldn't not even been baptized!

    Baptism is a commitment you make with God that you will be his servant and work for Him, by helping people and spreading the gospel just like his son Jesus Christ did and is still doing.

    You find out who God is, you make that choice to follow him.

    Just like you don't marry someone first then get to know them.

    God is running after you even still when your running away. He Loves You<3

  • @juan95815 Congradulations! You're insane.

  • @juan95815 Someone who runs after you when you are running away , is a stocker!!!

  • When i was baptized at maybe 3-4 years old i told the priest "I'm going to kill you!"

  • nice one.

    speaking of "brain washing", i was in a museum with ancient greek artifacts on exhibit, doing a report for a humanities class in college. it was a sunday and in walks a group i could tell just got out of church. a father with daughter in his arms and his elderly dad look at some artifacts next to me. the old man is blown away that civilization was around before jesus. the little girl points to a small statue of isis and goes "jesus?" her dad says, "yes honey, that's jesus".

  • @tomitstube america, fuck yeah!

  • Racist joke alert:

    A Russian, a Pollack and a Mexican where out for a drive. Who drove the car?

    Answer: The police.

  • @baldurus1 its a black guy, native and a mexican u retard

  • Wow, I'm sorry but baptism actually isn't a joke. I've been baptised, and it actually feel's great. God calls us to do it. Jesus even got baptised.

  • @ABeanieBug "I've been baptised, and it actually feel's great."

    Funny thing. I had a bath and it felt great. My friends (more influence on me than a not-in-evidence God) told me to do it. Even my parents (I know more about them and they taught me more about right and wrong than Jesus did) took a bath.

    There weren't a bunch of other people there to say some words or look on approvingly, but I'm sure they appreciated that I was conforming to their social norms.

  • @ABeanieBug LmAo its all in the mind XD its just water dood!! but the water does feel good actually.

  • the doctor said i'm overweight, so i tried the all new religion diet, instead of eating food i'm being fed lies.

  • Sure, maybe we didn't come from a monkey.... I can buy that... It's when you go off and say its the (super natural being of your choice) that made us.... Really.... Here we have a some what tangible theory and the god addicts come out and say.. "No way is that true....... You guys are dumb...." Then they go on to say it was the "super natural being".... cracks me up....

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  • I'm puzzled why instead you believe in a "self-created" god.

    Nor why you refer to evolution with the disparaging term "shape-shifting", when it more aptly describes what you believe in: clay shape-shifting into a man, ribs shape-shifting into women, staffs shape-shifting into snakes, women shape-shiting into pillars of salt, water shape-shifting into wine, and corpses shape-shifting into...god?

  • punnet2, Sigh... Your day just isn't complete without stalking me some more.

    For the billionth time, cause and effect are human comprehensions. We cannot go past that because we think and reason like human beings, God doesn't operate like that. God never had a begiining like us. I know it's beyond difficult for your simian brain to grasp. Try not to think about it so much.

    All the things you mentioned are of the supernatural; and you reject all supernatural occurences, except fish and apes.

  • @ZebrasFirst "Try not to think about it so much" - christianity in a nutshell.

    What your pongid brain seems not to realize is you're changing the rules when you get to god, so you don't have to apply the same question to god that you apply to everything else.

  • punnet2, You wrote,"...you're changing the rules when you get to god, so you don't have to apply the same question to god that you apply to everything else."

    - But, I've already indicated that we are all human beings, therefore, we will think and reason like human beings. Again, cause and effect are human notions.

    Cause and effect do not apply to God because He is supernatural, which is something you reject.

  • @ZebrasFirst "Cause and effect do not apply to God because He is supernatural"

    And there you have it, folks - that's his WHOLE argument.

    His god is the same as the purple fairies from the 14 dimension...supernatural, and without a shred of evidence to validate their existence.

    "Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?" - Douglas Adams

  • Gooberlicious54, You wrote,"And there you have it, folks- that's his WHOLE argument."

    - Yes, God being the reason for all existence is way better than your happenstance nothingness (which is your WHOLE argument).

    As far as your Douglas Adams quote: Yes, it is satisfying enough to see a garden that is beautiful. But, I don't believe it got there by itself or by fairies underneath it. The garden is not an accidental beauty.

  • punnet2, You quoted me,"Try not to think about it so much", in which you added,"christianity in a nutshell."

    - I said try not to think about the origin of God so much because I knew it would overheat your primate brain. Apparently, I was right, I can see the smoke from here.

    I'll get the fire extinguisher...

  • @ZebrasFirst Yes...you say try not to think about the origin of god so much, because if you do, you'll see the logical fallacies on which it rests.

    Your present argument amounts to "everything requires a cause...except my god....because he's MAGICAL!!!"

  • punnet2, Your posts to me have gone from extremely intelligent to extremely stupid to extremely pathetic to extremely childish, and to extremely something a chimpanzee smeared on the wall from its rear end. Which extreme are you? I'm going with stupid.

  • @ZebrasFirst Well your posts always met those extremes -- except for intelligent.

  • punnet2, Well, I never!!!

  • @ZebrasFirst

    "Well, I never" I can believe that.

  • punnet2, You wrote,"I can believe that."

    - You'll believe anything: Nothingness creating everything, bullied fish spawning other forms until it reaches apes and humans, real Cabbage Patch people, space aliens, but NOT God. You poor thing.

  • @ZebrasFirst "Nothingness creating everything"

    The Creationist belief exposed - notice how the sackless coward tries to pin HIS weakness on others.

    They believe their god (which Nothing created) created everything - yet accuse atheists of believing this?

    Wny ARE Creationists such gutless, deceitful little fucktards? WHY???

  • Gooberlicious54, You deny you originated as fish (you did), and you deny everything came from nothing (it did).

    It's embarrassing, I'd distance myself from that, too. But, why secretly believe it again? You were saying something about gutless, decitful little (BEEP)?

  • @ZebrasFirst "you deny everything came from nothing"

    I made no such claim, deceitful maggot.

    Can you prove that "nothing" ever existed? Of course you can't!

    "It's embarrassing, I'd distance myself from that, too."

    YOU WOULD?!

    So you are giving up your belief in a god that nothing created?!

    WOW!

    Somehow I think you are, once again, being dishonest. ;)

  • @ZebrasFirst Actually, it's you who accepts the supernatural that will believe anything. Nothing I've mentioned in anyway violates the laws of nature or requires an appeal to the supernatural; whereas your core beliefs -- clay turning directly into an asexual man; rib turning directly into a woman; a geologically impossile global flood; a David Blaine god turning into a zombie--rests entirely on a belief in magic. And (once again) lacks any evidence at all, unlike evolutionary theory.

  • punnet2, You wrote,"Nothing I've mentioned in any way violates the laws of nature or requires an appeal to the supernatural..."

    - Yes, except for the fact you have no account how life began (only guesses), how Nature began, or actual evidences of REAL transititional fossils that this extra special fish was THE ONE to spawn all life. Sounds magical and imaginary to me.

    Of course, you got your ever so loyal best buddy, Self- Creation, to always be there for you.

  • @ZebrasFirst I'm sure you've been told before that abiogenesis is separate from evolution, so I'm unclear as to why you're bringing that up now. I'm sure you've also been told that DNA alone is evidence enough to confirm evolution and common ancestry. Yet above and beyond that we do have ample fossil evidence.

    There is no evidence that humans are descended from a clay golem and his rib (magical by definition) -- yet you believe in this wholeheartedly.

  • punnet2, You wrote,"I'm sure you've been told before that abiogenesis is separate from evolution..."

    - Yes, but when you think about it, Abiogenesis leading up to Evolution is very, very similar: Abio= bacteria spawning microscopic organisms, Evo= fish spawning all life on land.

    You, "There is no evidence that humans are descended from a clay golem/rib..."

    - That's because Adam wasn't a golem or statue. The rib was Adam's gentic make up from which God formed a help mate for Adam.

  • @ZebrasFirst LOL!!

    I've seen ignorant religitards twist the Bible before...

    But RHINOS and UNICORNS???!!!!!

    What a complete buffoon.

  • Gooberlicious54, You wrote,"But RHINOS and UNICORNS???!!!"

    - The Bible wasn't originally written in English, just as your Satanic beliefs tell you you were once a fish.

    Lessee... which would be more alike?

    Unicorn and rhino bodies= close?

    or Fish and human bodies= close?

    Before you answer, Put Down That Banana Peel!!!

  • @ZebrasFirst "you were once a fish"

    Wow - even after being told what the fish comments make him look like, he STILL makes them...what's next, molesting a child on video? Sheesh!

    "unicorn and rhino bodies= close?"

    Um sure, if you consider elephants and horses "close". What an idiot.

    "or Fish"

    And there goes that Creationist critical thinking again! LOL

    "mocking and laughing"

    Exposing your lies and hypocisy isn't mocking them - but yes, I did laugh as I exposed your cowardice.

  • Gooberlicious54, You wrote,"yes, I did laugh as I exposed your cowardice."

    - You didn't expose anything. All I read is the typical cussing, complaining, and dodging.

    Example: You wrote,"unicorn and rhino bodies=close? Um sure, if you consider elephants and horses 'close'. What an idiot."

    - See? No real replies, just nonsense and dodging, with the usual insult.

  • @ZebrasFirst "See? No real replies"

    Um, okay...if you really think elephants and horses look alike, you should have just said so. That way we would know from the start that you are either blind or crazy.

    "YOU are the one who believes humans were once fish"

    You keep repeating this lie. Repeating a lie over and over and over does not ever, EVER make it any less of a lie. You DO know that, right???

    And people wonder why we rank so low in education! Sheesh!

  • Gooberlicious54, "You keep repeating this lie."

    - Oh, so Tiktaalik is a lie? Again?

    Whether Tiktaalik "evolved" into humans over night or millions of years ago, it's STILL a fish transforming into a human form. If you reject this (again), then, maybe you're not a true evolutionist??

    ???

  • @ZebrasFirst "the usual insult"

    Hey fuckface, why don't you look back through the comments and see who started with the insults.

    Dishonest, hypocritical religitards suck and should all die in a fire. :)

  • Gooberlicious54, You wrote," Hey (BEEP) -more chimpanzee rage- why don't you look back through the comments and see who started with the insults."

    - I have, it was YOU. And whenever I fire back an insult, you go into your chimpanzee rage again. You poor, flea-ridden thing. Maybe I'll let you out of your cage...maybe.

  • @ZebrasFirst "I have, it was YOU"

    Try again, "fish-man" - funny how you cowardly religitards seem to "forget" certain things...like lobbing the first insult.

    And now you try and deny it...what a douchenozzle.

  • Gooberlicious54, That's not true. When I tease about bananas, apes, or you being an ape person, I'm actually holding up a mirror to your face with your preposterous beliefs, and you get offended!

    You're wrong, humans are highly evolved apes branched off from a "common ancestor" that makes you related to chimpanzees, according to evolutionists. You can distance yourself if you wish, but it's what they truly believe.

  • @ZebrasFirst Okay everyone, this debacle has gone on long enough.

    Watch as the Creationist flees like a cur:

    Very well, ZebrasFirst, evolutionary biology is a complete shame, all vaccines are fake, all biological advances in medicine are somehow false, etc...

    Now that we've removed biological evolution from the debate, please produce the verifiable, empirical evidence for Creationism. And no evading by bringing up evolution since we've dismissed it, mmkay?

    (this gets them EVERY time!)

  • @jb46292 Actually, humans are a subset of primate, not ape.

    Yes, the taxonomic family is the "great ape" family, but to simply call humans apes, rather than a subset of primate, is a misnomer.

  • Gooberlicious54, As for my Channel Comment blocking, I am not a weasel hypocrite because you proved my point beautifully.

    I blocked simply because I used to not block, and guess what happpened? Atheistic apes clicked in to post (BEEP),(BEEP), (BEEP), cuss words, filth, profanity, XXX-rated crudeness, more foul language, more and more bad words, which is exactly what you did in your "Aww" message. It's the equivalent of spray painting a nice clean wall. Ugly and tacky, like you.

  • @ZebrasFirst "cuss words, filth, profanity, XXX-rated crudeness"

    Notice that the person who has NO problem worshipping a god that condones slavery, the RAPE and MURDER of CHILDREN, racism, sexiam...among other things...but gets his panties all bunched up over language.

    Do you even know what HYPOCRITE means?

    Look it up.

  • Gooberlicious54, You wrote,"Do you even know what HYPOCRITE means?"

    - Do you even know what IGNORANCE means? Instead of jump-skipping your monkey way thru the Bible, why don't you actually read it, instead of editing it down to just one verse?

  • @ZebrasFirst @ZebrasFirst "God is not "ok" with condemning someone to Hell"

    Then it wouldn't happen. Period. Your god gets to make the rules, he can change them...unless of course he is a perverted monster.

    Funny how you continue the lies, evasion and insults...and STILL won't even TRY to produce the evidence to support your claims.

    What a spineless little twat.

  • Gooberlicious54, You wrote, "Then it wouldn't happen. Period."

    - People going to Hell wouldn't happen if they'd accepted the Lord. (Note the IF)

    You, "Your god gets to make the rules, he can change them..."

    - That's correct, He DOES make the rules, however, doesn't mean people are going to listen. Why should He change the rules? So He can compromise with evil?

  • @ZebrasFirst I love how you admit your god belief is absurd and contradictory, then go on to defend it anyway!

    Not surprising, you're probably used to this sort of evasion and backpeddaling, since you worship a god that condones the rape and murder of children,

    "So He can compromise with evil?"

    He created it in the first place! Your silly holy book even says so!

    Critical thinking just doesn't work with you, does it?

    Silly religitard.

  • Gooberlicious54, You wrote,"...evolutionary biology is a complete shame, all vacines are fake, all biological advances in medicine are somehow false, etc..."

    - I never said such a thing. Again, what does the medical field have to do with a creature (fish) turning into a new creature (human)?

    You,"produce the verifiable, empirical evidence for Creationism."

    - All of physical existence was either made by God, or made by a miraculous chain of events of happenstance.

  • @ZebrasFirst "what does the medical field have to do with [evolutionary biology]?"

    To even ask such a question reveals your ignorance.

    Take a biology class for fuck's sake and LEARN SOMETHING!

    "All of physical existence was either made by God, or made by blahblahblah"

    Back this claim - stop being a fucking pussy and BACK THIS CLAIM.

    Watch as the Creationist weasel waffles and evades some more.

    What a sackless maggot.

  • Gooberlicious54, ME: What does the medical field have to do with a creature turning into another (Goober Gorilla up to its old tricks again)

    YOU: To even ask such a question reveals your ignorance. (Notice the dodge and the usual insult again?)

    ME: All of physical existence was either made by God, or made by (HERE: Goober Gorilla is at it again by placing "blahblahblah" as opposed to quoting me correctly, which he obviously finds extremely embarrassing. The ape man knows shame after all!!

  • @ZebrasFirst Your ignorance is pathological. First of all, abiogenesis does not deal with bacteria spawning anything; it's the hypothesis that life can emerge from non-living material. Furthermore, bateria ARE microsopic organisms, so "bacteria spawning microsopic organisms" is redundant.

    And still...there is no evidence we are descended from a clay man - whether or not you want to call him a golemn - and his rib.

    But you believe it anyway

  • punnet2, You wrote,"...it's the hypothesis that life can emerge from non-living material."

    - Hogwash. How can life spark from non-life? At least as a Creationist's perspective, we have the miracles of God; as an evolutionists, you have the miracles of happenstance. Gimme a break, punnet2, and I thought the whole fish-ape thing was outlandish.

  • @ZebrasFirst What do you mean "hogwash"? Abiogenesis is the study of how life can emerge from inanimate material. Whether or not you believe it is possible, that is its definition, not the deplorably erroneous one you gave, of "bacteria spawning microsopic organisms". How are you fit to engage this discussion if you don't understand the basic definitions?

    And you are apparently ignorant (or forgetful) of the Stanley Miller experiment, where amino acids were produced from basic compounds.

  • punnet2, You wrote,"Abiogenesis is the study of how life can emerge from inanimate material."

    - See? I told you you believe in Self-Creation. First, a missing "common ancestor" spawned you and chimps, then, several morphings before that, a fish emerged from the ancient sea, but, befote that, the fish was a lesser life form, and before that, a microscopic form of bacteria, and before that, it was a non-life material. Wow!! From nothingness to a whole lot of something. Aaaamazing.

  • @ZebrasFirst Pardon me. I never said whether I believe in it or not. I was simply correcting your inexcusably incorrect definition of abiogenesis.

    Yet since you chose to bring it up abiogenesis --however ignorant you are of what it actually is-- several experiments like Urey-Miller have been conducted which demonstrate amino acids (the building blocks of life) can in fact emerge from basic, inanimate material -- without any appeal to magic, as you make on behalf of your Bronze Age beliefs.

  • punnet2, HAHA!! You wrote,"Pardon me. I never said whether I believe in it or not."

    - Well, if you're a true evolutionist, you better believe it. HAHA!! It's all right, I can understand you wanting to distance yourself from such silliness. It's very,very embarrassing!! (I'm red in the face for you!!)

  • @ZebrasFirst Not sure what you're laughing about; given first your erroneous definition of abiogenesis, as well as how it is a separate subject from evolution.

    That you should be embarrassed for me, when it is you who has repeatedly shown sheer ignorance of the topic discussed, is...well, embarrassing.

  • punnet2, Whether a fish morphed its body into humans overnight or over a million years; or whether bacteria spawned life or non-life spawned new life, it is not embarrassing to me because I laugh at such obvious nonsense. YOU are the one who believes it (although I caught you trying to distance yourself with your equally hilarious "Pardon me").

  • @ZebrasFirst Well the evidence does not support a fish morphing its body into a human's overnight, nor even over a million years -- just like neither of your parents morphed into your body overnight, nor even over 9 months. The evidence does support that humans are descended from organisms that lived in the sea.

    What is nonsense is that clay was CPR'd into a living man, and his rib was hand-crafted into a woman -- yet you believe this without any evidence at all.

  • punnet2, GASP!! Are you now denying your aquatic ancestor, Tiktaalik?!! Poor Tiktaalik. Wait til he finds out you bypassed him over mysterious "organisms that lived in the sea." The fish that got away...literally!

    Was the sea cucumber part of that "organisms that lived in the sea" since your cousin the cabbage is birthing human-like beings as in the video I sent you?

  • punnet2,"CPR'd"!!! That's a good one, I must admit!!

    Well, it's better than....self-CPR'd? 

  • @ZebrasFirst "From nothingness to a whole lot of something"

    That's Creationism - where Nothing created your god, remember?

    Gawd what a fucking moron.

  • Gooberlicious54, How old are you? I'm guessing about 8? You need a bar of soap crammed into your brain, all you ever write is shameless filth. Then again, you do think you're related to chimpanzees, so, it makes sense, I guess.

  • @ZebrasFirst So, other than the animal insults and the gradeschool put downs, did you have anything to say?

    We realize at this point you have absolutely NO intention of backing any of your claims, and as such you stand revealed as just another lying religitard.

    *yawn* NEXT!

  • Gooberlicious54, You wrote,"So, other than the animal insults and the gradeschool put downs, did you have anything to say?"

    - Animal insults? Well, why on Earth would you be "insulted" by animal insults?! After all, evolutionists claim you ARE an ape, and you ARE an animal.

    Second, the question is, do YOU have anything to say because YOU are the one who addressed ME?

    yawn? - Yes, go ahead and go to sleep, you make better sense when you're unconscious.

  • @ZebrasFirst So, do you even HAVE the evidence for your claims you said you did...or are the silly insults and evasion all you have?

    Let's wait and see...LOL!

  • Gooberlicious54, testing

  • Gooberlicious54, not posting not posting testing testing

    You wrote,"do you HAVE the evidence for your claims you said you did..."

    - Yes, of course, however, I can't take you seriously. You've been vulgar, arrogant, and crude with your nasty language. All I did was mock ape/banana jokes and you got all mad!! I don't know why!! You're the only evolutionist I met here on YouTube that thinks he's NOT an ape.

    That'll be like if you called me a "human", and then, I started cussing you out!!

    ??

  • @ZebrasFirst "ues, of course, however, I can't take you seriously"

    And I cannot take someone seriously who makes a claim and then waffles like spineless weasel when pressed to back the claim.

    Sorry religitard, you lose...again.

  • @ZebrasFirst "You've been vulgar, arrogant, and crude with your nasty language."

    So have you.

    But it amazes me that someone who worships a god that condones the rape and murder of children would get their panties in a bunch over vulgar language.

    What an immoral hypocrite.

  • Gooberlicious54, You wrote,"So have you."

    - No, I haven't. It's one thing to tease your ape/banana-filled beliefs, it's another to be vulgar and cussing someone out continuously.

    You wrote,"But it amazes me that someone who worships a god that condones the rape and murder of children would get their panties in a bunch over vulgar language.'

    - Have you researched those Scriptures, or are you just spotlighting and dwelling only on one verse?

  • @ZebrasFirst "Have you researched those Scriptures"

    Sure have, that's why I referenced the entire chapter, so that cowardly Creationists couldn't waffle and try to pull the "out of context" game.

    And yet you still tried to play that deceit - how very revealing!

  • Gooberlicious54, I take it that you're referring to the book of Exodus? Give me the verse you're referring exactly.

  • @ZebrasFirst Aww look! The religious douchebag coward posted another "non response" hoping I would miss it.

    What a spineless little weasel.

    I've spanked you in regards to Scripture...you should really READ it before making yourself look foolish.

    Now, about your evidence...still waiting, Mr. Waffle!

  • Gooberlicious54, Instead of the usual childish insults, wouldn't it have been easier and more honest than to just give me a precise Scripture?

    You know, in the video with the duck in the pool, the guy operating the camera seems like a real cool, polite guy. The one doing these 4 year- old YouTube posts is an arrogant, ignorant, and selfish jerk. Which one are you?

    I ceased with the monkey/banana jokes, why don't you?

  • @ZebrasFirst "the guy operating the camera seems like"

    Now THAT'S an ad homenim attack - funny how you fucktards like to cry wolf on that one!

    "I ceased with the"

    You dished it out, now grow some balls and take what you dish out without whining like a little bitch.

    NOW, ABOUT THE EVIDENCE YOU CLAIMED TO HAVE...

    *yawn*

  • Gooberlicious54, Goofy Goober Gorilla, I thought you were Gone?! I guess not.

    U wrote,"Now THAT's an ad homenim attack, funny how blh,blah,blah..."

    - I guess he's a jerk in front of the camera, too.

    *yawn*" again?! Didn't I already tell you you sound more intelligent when you're unconcious? Go back to bed, you yawning chimp! ...And dream about bananas dancing on the clouds...

  • @ZebrasFirst So I guess that's the key...don't let cowardly weasel Creationists make claims without supporting them. Demand they back the claims they make, the same as everyone else.

    And watch them scatter like cockroaches...

  • Gooberlicious54, U wrote,"So I guess that's the key...don't let cowardly weasel Creationists make claims without supporting them. Demand they backthe clais they make..."

    - HAHAHA!! Aren't you quite the comedic chimp this morning? You don't have no room to talk since I don''t know what devil's ape costume YOU believe. It's easy to declare "victory" when you lie, dodge, deny, and accept your monkey evidence.

    Scatter like cockroaches? Are you sure cockroaches aren't your cousins, either?

  • @ZebrasFirst "it's easy to declare "victory" when you lie, dodge, deny"

    Indeed it is...which is EXACTLY WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING, you spineless little weasel.

    Evidence for your claims or GTFO.

  • Gooberlicious54, Well, in order to get to point Z, we must go from point A to point B. You seem to be comfortable staying on point A. Point A is your island. Point A is your home. You refuse to leave point A, the land of Apes and Arrogance.

    Come with me to point O, the land of the extremely Obvious. Then, and only then will you see God.

    But, you're on A because you want to remain there.

  • @ZebrasFirst "Then, and only then will you see God."

    WHAT?!

    You claimed to have scientific evidnence for a god.

    NOW I have to follow you to "point O"???

    What a cowardly, dishonest, lying sack of shit.

    You've been exposed. Lying Creationist.

    You HAVE no evidence for your claims, despite your claims otherwise.

    If you HAD any evidence you'd have stopped this evasion game long ago and presented it.

  • Gooberlicious54, U wrote,"You claimed to have scientific evidence for a god...NOW I have to follow you to 'point O'???"

    - See, what I mean? That comment demonstrates your unwillingness to leave point A. You're like a chimpanzee who has purposely chained himself to a dead banana tree because you think the tree will produce bananas again.

    I'm trying to lead you to a fruit stand full of hundreds of fresh bananas...but, you can't follow me...you're stuck....you've chained yourself.

  • @ZebrasFirst "you can't follow me"

    You haven't provided any evidence, lying douchebag.

    More ape/banana insults, no evidence.

    The hallmark of the Creationist "debate."

    Go home religitard, you've been exposed (again).

  • @ZebrasFirst "in order to get to point Z, we must go from point A to point B"

    Yes, that's what we must do.

    But YOU are the one denying alelle frequency changes in genetic populations, not me.

    Silly Creationists.

  • Gooberlicious54, U wrote,"But YOU are the one denying alelle frequency changes in genetic populations, not me."

    - Sorry, that would probably be point I or J in the evolutionary timeline, you refuse to leave A, remember?

  • @ZebrasFirst "you refuse to leave A, remember?"

    Gawd what an idiot.

    YOU are the one denying changes in genetic populations.

    YOU not only refuse to leave A - according to your mythology we are all STILL at point A.

    You DO remember your previous claims right?

    It would be a shame to have to own you with your own words.

  • Gooberlicious54, HAHA!! Typical, sneaky little monkey man. You snatched my idea right outta my hands and ran straight up that tree. You get back down here!!

    I'm gonna go get the chainsaw and cut your simian tail down. You thief.

    Fine, stay isolated in tree A.

  • @ZebrasFirst Just keep those ape/monkey evasion insults coming.

    Seriously, are there ANY Creationists that post on youtube that have the balls to back the claims they make? Just ONE even??

    What a spineless bunch of maggots.

  • Gooberlicious54, HAHA!! U monkey paw printed,"Seriously, are there..."

    - You get another banana piece!! Here's your reward (Goofy Goober takes piece).

    Did you just say, "Seriously"? You? HAHA!!

    You get another banana piece!! Great job, monkey boy!!

    NO WAIT!!! Dang...you went up the tree again.

  • Gooberlicious54, U monkey paw printed,"Just keep those ape/monkey evasion insults coming."

    - HAHA!! You definitely recieve another banana piece for that one, too!

    Sadly, they are not ape/monkey insults, they are what evolutionists really believe, except for you, Goofy Goober. You're a rare ape humanoid who denies the monkey in the mirror. You sad, pathetic, confused monkey creature.

  • @ZebrasFirst "You sad, pathetic"

    So you're not even going to try to back any of the claims you've made, are you?

    What a slimy little weasel.

  • @ZebrasFirst Hey there, gutless turd!

    It's been a week - where's your evidence? And no trying to hide behind a Bronze Age book of myths again.

    Evidence or GTFO.

  • @Gooberlicious54 Don't expect evidence from theists, you're just going to waste time.

  • @ZebrasFirst And you accused ME of "disappearing into the greenery"!

    LOL

    What a gutless little turd.

  • @ZebrasFirst

    Be proud of your ape heritage. And I see you never came back and provided any evidence. Typical ^_^

  • sakar181, You go ahead and be proud of your ocean scum, fish, and ape heritage. I'll be proud of my human heritage.

    You atheist/evolutionists do not have evidence. Just nonsense that cheats the Scientific Method. The first step of the SM is to make an Observation. Have you observed a kind turning into another new kind? Or did you just assume it?

  • @ZebrasFirst Visit talkorigins(dot)org. There is evidence of all sorts: DNA, fossil records, geographical, et al. You only haven't seen it because you refuse to. We do not have to have observed it because of the huge evidence for it. We've never observed dinosaurs have we? But we know they existed. Evolution is a VERY slow process; you don't just witness an ape giving birth to a human. You do have human heritage, but you also have ape heritage. It's not insulting, it's fact. Get used to it.

  • @towelie893

    I do find that hilarious. Say that we are descended from apes, and the creatard's brain seems to short circuit and the ape insults start flying. Thats unthinkable! Say that they are a pathetic, disgusting waste of human skin and deserve hell because of what some mythical forerunner supposedly ate....well, thats just fine!

    Fundies baffle and confuse me deeply.

  • sakar181, U told towelie893,"Say that we are descended from apes, and the creatard's brain seems to short circuit and the ape insults start flying."

    - First of all, your demonic teachings claims that humans ARE apes, not descended from them. Second, you mock my beliefs, but then, you go into a chimpanzee tantrum when I monkey mock your silly simian science. There will be no banana pieces left out for you today.

  • @ZebrasFirst

    Actually, we ARE apes that are descended from OTHER apes. I mock your beliefs because they are so very laughable as to only warrant ridicule. I trust in demonstrable reality, not the bible.

  • sakar181, u wrote,"Actually, we ARE apes that are descended from OTHER apes."

    - Too late, you already goofed. There's no sense in trying to cover yourself now with your ridiculous "OTHER" nonsense.

    U, "I trust in demonstrable reality, not the bible."

    - You don't know anyrhing about the Bible, just misconceptions. Your ancient ancestors being bacteria and fish cannot be demonstrated, just told.

  • @ZebrasFirst

    Im done wasting time on you. You have been so severely brainwashed that you wouldnt know truth if it came up and gave you MRSA. Just know this: modern biology makes no sense unless it's in the light of evolution. Call up an accredited university and ask a biologist about this. better yet, find one thats willing to waste time talking to you so that they can put you and your ignorant ideas back in the dust bin. One kook on the internet will NOT overturn 150 years of science.

  • sakar181, U wrote,"I'm done wasting time on you."

    - Yes, it's true. You have wasted your time when you failed to get me to believe my human lineage stems from bacteria and fish. Thanks for your waste of time. Bye.

  • @ZebrasFirst

    Actually, thats anyone who tries to teach you something that goes against your bible. It never ceases to amaze me: people like you and nephie think that reading an article on some creatard website qualifies you to disprove a scientific theory w/ 150 years of research and inquiry behind it, all because you people seem to not be able to handle reality. Sorry, science is a meritocracy. If the ideas you have held ANY weight, they would be considered. They dont. You fail miserably.

  • sakar181, U wrote,"people like you and nephie think that reading an article on some cretard website qualifies you to disprove a scientific theory w/ 150 years of research and inquiry behind it..."

    - First, not all Christian/Creationists believe the same way. Second, 150 years of nonsense has still not convinced me that fish are one of humans' origins. Third, the Creation vs Evolution is still ongoing. Only a person who thinks he's an ape thinks it's settled with silly simian science.

  • @ZebrasFirst

    Actually no. The only people screaching about creation are you morons who have bastardized science. The theory of evolution is the backbone of modern biology, just ask anyone who does it for a living. These people, the one's who know what they are talking about, dismiss creationism as a myth. You cretins think that you have overturned one of the most solidly evidenced ideas in science; you cant. As I said, call a university and ask a biologist.

    Fucking waste of skin.

  • sakar181, I'm going to PM with towelie893. He's going to try and set me straight on The Theory of Evolution. "Morons"? "Bastardized science"? "Myth"? "Cretins"? "F-ing waste of skin"?

    Man, you are angry and hateful. Dude, chill a little.

  • @ZebrasFirst

    Ok, I went a bit overboard. I do apologize. It's just that this is one topic that *really* gets my goat. When I say 'bastardize science', it's not overboard though. Evolution's a field of science that people dont like because i goes against what they *hope* is real. All you have to do to see this is visit conservaperdia to see what a bad thing reality is. I would ask something of you, for your own good: email the bio dept of a few major universities and ask *scientists* about it

  • @ZebrasFirst

    And Im not sure if you have ever seen a shockofgod video or a nephilimfree video, but those guys are most definitely moronic cretins who bludgeon science with the stick of dogmatic belief. Their kinda like hovind. I responded to you with such vitriol because of the other posts Ive read that you posted on this topic. I'll bet you are a good person who loves their family, as am I. Im sure you have skills that i lack, and vice versa. I freely admit my ignorance on many topics. :)

  • @ZebrasFirst - Just for the record, the origin of humanity, apes, and common monkeys have all been traced back to an ancestor that they all shared. Directed towards your ignorant statement, no we are not apes and no one believes that.

    Answer this simple question: Would you believe me if I told you that the Flying Spaghetti Monster created everything in existence and if you didn't believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster, then you would burn in a boiling pot of spaghetti sauce for all eternity?

  • @Critic863

    I am afraid we are all apes (Great ones too)

    Under the current classification system there are two families of hominoids:

    the family Hylobatidae consists of 4 genera and 14 species of gibbon, including the Lar Gibbon and the Siamang, collectively known as the lesser apes.

    the family Hominidae consisting of chimpanzees, gorillas, humans and orangutans[1][2] collectively known as the great apes.

    Wiki:Apes

  • @graingert cool story bro, tell it again.

  • towelie893, U said,"Visit TalkOrigins..."

    - I have.

    U said,"We've never observed dinosaurs have we? But we know they existed."

    - Knowing something existed is different from knowing you evolved from something. Besides, in the Bible, in the book of Job, God talked to Job about a creature he'd never seen. The creature had a tail the size of a cedar tree, had muscles like iron, and could stand in a raging river without being moved. It's a dinosaur! Way before Science unearthed their remains.

  • @ZebrasFirst

    Damn dude, they really fucked you up from birth with the indoctrination. You make fun of me for *knowing* and appreciating human heritage, and I'll make fun of you for actually having surrendered your reason so that you can think we were all created by an eternal fuck-up who cant even keep snakes out of a garden when he supposedly knows all.

    And you dont have to observe everything:humans know the orbital period of Pluto, and we havent known about it for that long. You fail.

  • sakar181, U wrote,"...I'll make fun of you for actually having surrendered your reason so that you can think we were all created by an eternal (BEEP)-up who can't even keep snakes out of a garden when he supposedly knows all."

    - The Bible isn't warped, your understanding is.

    U,"..humans know the orbital period of Pluto...You fail."

    - An orbital period of Pluto is one thing, your ancient grandma being a fish is another.

  • @ZebrasFirst

    I proved you wrong on a point you made about science and you dont even acknowledge it, you merely insult. And you claim to know my understanding of the bible. you are an ignorant, arrogant, myopic little mind. I doubt you would even understand the argument about gods malevolence with him allowing the snake in if I explained it to you. After looking at your other comments, you are a waste of time. You dont wan truth, you want your beliefs confirmed, right or wrong. Pathetic.

  • sakar181, U said,"you are ignorant, arrogant, myopic little mind."

    - Wrong. You are the one who believes there is no God (your ignorance and arrogance) and think you evolved from bacteria and fish (your myopic little mind).

    U finished,"You don't want truth, you want your beliefs confirmed, right or wrong. Pathetic."

    - Nope, they are ALREADY confirmed. What is pathetic is that you think your goofy fish/ape theory is a real challenge to the Bible. Please.

  • Gooberlicious54, HAHA!! Typical, sneaky little monkey man. You snatched my idea right outta my hands and ran straight up that tree. You get back down here!!

    I'm gonna go get the chainsaw and cut your simian tail down. You thief.

    Fine, stay isolated in tree A.

    Here...you get a little treat for being so entertaining, can you guess what it is? That's right!! The usual banana piece!! Good boy!!

  • @ZebrasFirst You know, I was prepared to argue my point again, but after seeing this extremely long thread of comments I'm not going to bother. You clearly have no understanding of science, reasoning, or critical thought. You just cling to your book as true and will attempt to rationalize any contrary evidence to support it. You are supposed to use evidence to craft a theory (like evolution), not come to a conclusion (the Bible) and try to rationalize evidence to support it, you ridiculous fool.

  • towelie893, I've read your second, more friendly comment. Yes, we can have a respectful exchange. However, as much as you want to convince me that Evolution is true; I want to convince you of Creation. We both have a high wall to climb. Let's see what happens. I'll contact you first in a little while. Stay tuned...

  • @ZebrasFirst "all you ever write is shameless filth"

    Wow, just like the authors of your holy book!

    Was this an insult or a compliment? :)

  • Gooberlicious54, You wrote,"Was that an insult or a compliment? :)"

    - Neither, it was the truth. 

  • @ZebrasFirst You are either completely ignorant of cosmology, abiogenesis, and biology...or you are purposefully mixing them up in order to try to make a case for Creationism.

    Dishonesty or willfull ignorance...I'm not sure which is worse...or more immoral.

  • Gooberlicious54, You typed,"...cosmology, abiogenesis, and biology...or you are purposefully mixing them up..."

    - No,no,no. I would never confuse genuine Science (Cosmology, Biology) with Science Fiction (Evolution Theory), that's your trickery.

  • @ZebrasFirst "extra special fish"

    You and your fish fetish - see a therapist.

    "Sounds magical and imaginary to me."

    But the one in the Bible that can swallow a person (and keep them alive and healthy in their stomach for THREE DAYS) is completely real and valid...

    LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

  • Gooberlicious54, I'm going to skip the other two comments because you're basically complaining and griping. You poor baby. There,there. I'll see about getting you a bottle with banana juice. Aww..there,there.

    You wrote,"You and your fish fetish- see a therapist."

    - Tiktaalik: Goober's greatest fact... and Goober's greatest denial.

    PSST...(whispering), hey,goober. i know the fish thing is embarrassing. but, you can't back out now and give up being a monkey man because it's "proven".

  • @ZebrasFirst "I know the fish thing is embarrassing"

    You do? Then why do you keep embarrassing yourself by using it? By doing so you are either being willfully ignorant or dishonest - which is it?

    "genuine science"

    Evolutionary biology IS science - and I bet, despite your superstitious rantings, that when you get seriouslly ill your religious BS goes out the door and you go to the doctor - ever get a vaccine? Developed with evolutionary biology.

    But you probably already knew that.

  • Gooberlicious54, You wrote,"You do? Then why do you keep embarrassing yourself by using it?"

    - I'm not embarrassed because YOU are the one who believes humans were once fish (although, you deny and defend).

    You, "Evolutionary biology IS science..."

    - Yes, I know it is, but, a fish "evolving" into humans is NOT evolutionary biology.

  • @ZebrasFirst "Yes, I know it is"

    Aha! You DO know, which makes the following comment:

    "a fish 'evolving into humans"

    Not just ignorance, but a lie - and on purpose.

    Thanks for exposing yourself.

  • @ZebrasFirst "I'm going to skip the other two comments because"

    Make all the silly excuses you want - your god and purple fairies are equally valid. The fact that you cannot even defend against this simple fact speaks HUGE volumes about your superstitious beliefs.

    Thanks for proving it.

  • Gooberlicious54, You wrote,"The fact that you cannot even defend against this simple fact speaks HUGE volumes about your superstitious beliefs. Thanks for proving it."

    - Again, all this written by a guy who thinks he's an ape, and humans "evolved" from fish (while denying it, then, going back to defend it, then returning to denying it!)

    You see, kids? This is why you can't believe everything you read. Or you'll turn out like Goober Gorilla here.

  • @ZebrasFirst "Again, all this written by a guy who thinks he's an ape"

    Not ape, primate...as in homo sapiens.

    So you're not homo sapien? Then what species are you? Fish? LOL

    "defend it, then deny it"

    Only you have done that, with your god that Nothing created...and still you squirm and evade like a little worm.

    Thank you for exposing Creationism as a complete and dishonest fraud.

  • Gooberlicious54, HAHAHA!! Oh, Goober Gorilla, you're so hilarious!!

    You wrote,"Not ape, primate...as in homo sapiens."

    According to all the other evolutionists I've exchanged with, humans ARE apes. Denying, AGAIN??

  • @ZebrasFirst "humans ARE apes.

    No, apes are apes...humans are humans.

    Boy are YOU confused (but we already knew that)!

    "Denying, AGAIN??"

    It sure looks like it...you and your god that Nothing created.

    LOL

  • punnet2, You wrote,"Well your posts always met those extremes- except for intelligent."

    - In addition to I NEVER!!!, I want to add:

    "Except for intelligent"?!! Then, I guess that would explain *you stalking me to every video I commented on, and exchanging with me for several months?

    *I think I put a stop to it. You're very entertaining, but it kinda gets annoying after a while. Sorry.

  • lmao...more please...

  • HOLY SHIT THIS WAS IN AUSTIN!!! I FUCKING LIVE THERE I SHOULD OF CALLED!! FUCK!

  • only retards believe everything without question. the samething goes with creationism also. The only reason there was no one there to see the fish evolve is because the fish had not yet evolved into a human yet which would take even longer

  • "Religion is like a penis, It's fine to have one and it's fine to be proud of it, but please don't flail it around in public and please don't shove it down my child's throat"

  • I've got a joke too, Religion.

  • lol i cant believe were still debating whether theres a god or not.

    wtf people. this isn't 2000 BC. smarten up. research.

    we arent fucking cavemen.

    you have to understand that humans created a concept of a god a long long time ago because they did not understand the world around them... they didn't know where everything came from. kings used this stupid "god" concept to control people.

    so... just research. fucking retards.

  • I had to burst out in laughter, excellent. :D

  • ProjectDecade, Evolution works at a very, very slow pace before changes or variations take shape. At least, that's what evolutionists keep telling me.

    There's this bird (forgot what kind) here on Youtube instantly making sounds that it hears. Instantly. It's actually mimicing the sounds it hears. It even duplicated the sound of the camera that took its picture! Cool bird.