way to fuck it up, let the professionals drill the holes, there are specific measurements the holes are drilled for it to resonate right... you completely wasted your money there.
I've done the same drilling thing to some of my Agops and their sound turns short, softer and china -like (normal shape crashes). The small holes work well in china cymbals because of their more rigid construction. No use to compare with f ex Ozone crash. That's whole different ball game.
haha this guy has A.D.D. haha he starts by showing a china with holes in it. and ends by showing his kit random spiratic torettes- rythem. take yo meds and post a cover haha
Good idea but you Fucked Up... Holes are too small and too many...The theory is to break up standing waves and cancel out nasty low register harmonics.
There is a mathematical equation involved to do with 'Size of hole and its placement... (usually 1/3 from edge of bell, to edge of cymbal) The other part of the equation is dependent on diameter of cymbal.
But at leased you gave it a go... Next time do some research on standing waves.. Hopefully the cymbals you fucked up were crappy anyway.
@aso209 Sure, but shitty-cheap cymbals produce a shitty-cheap sound. ..So all you really achieved was a shitty-cheap cymbal with holes it...Shitty-cheap is shitty-cheap, no matter which way you cut it... Any improvement you think you hear is delusional.
If your in a beginners kit don't worry man, their will come a day where you'll have a really expensive kit and your abilities on playing them will also be the same, that's if your playing isn't in advanced level yet, you might be in an advanced level in playing the drums and you might not know it, that happened to me years ago until i decided to record myself, you'll be amazed of how you play one's you record yourself. just keep drumming, you never know what good or great things might come to u.
@jamy313 I can only speak of the science behind harmonic standing waves, in relation to cymbals, in which I have a ton of experience in... Who knows why Sabian chose even smaller hole in their so called 'Holy China' cymbals... Maybe they're just jumping on a popular trendy notion, that you can improve the sound of any crappy cymbal simply by cutting holes in it (funny name 'Holy China')... In any event, a well made cymbal should have tuneful harmonic overtones, then no band aids are required
@phoenix11994466 Wow... way to get really offended by someone's project? I'm impressed at the fact that he did this at all. By the way, you sound really smart just saying "mathematical equations" and "leased".
@Kelavmeister Well thank you dude, and I'm impressed you took the time to acknowledge my contribution against misinformation. Usually I just shake my head and move on when I see ignorant BS on YouTube. But this time something snapped, and lead me to thinking... "If I don't set this guy straight, others may think drilling holes in cymbals improves their sound". So I pulled out trusty Sword Of Damocles, and did smite that BS from the land of YoTube forever. Hmmm, who's next
@phoenix11994466 I don't think you read my comment.. at all???? haha I said the guy who did this impressed me, NOT you at all. YOUR arrogance doesn't impress me. And I was being sarcastic about you using "big words" because those were obviously just an attempt to sound smart on your part, and not big words at all. Nice try though trying to make me feel stupid, dude.
@phoenix11994466 i think ur right with the hole theory, but dont you dare to call a WUHAN CHINA a crappy cymbal, o yes it can be cheap, but no china can sound like that. they in my opinion a better sound than orientals. Wuhan's are the original chinas! now other brand would have a 27" china because they are afraid of them >=D
@PAnsitoQuemado766 Yes I agree, no one can make a china -cymbal like they make them in China... When I went shopping for a china-cymbal, I checked out all the popular brands. Zildian, Sabian, Paste . They all sounded different, but I wasn't happy with any of them... A friend suggested I check out a local Chinese importer. He had a huge shop selling everything from firecrackers to Chinese herbal medicine and including genuine made in China china-cymbals, so I brought a 24" one, it sounds great
@aso209 ok i was joking and at least i don't waste my money and time on making wuhan ozones dumbass and what i was saying about your shitty set i was talking about your shitty evans drum head i like the remo snare head btw and i wrote the comment a month a go idiot!
mapexroionclassicseries: First of all what kind of drums do you play? If the guy wanted to put holes in his china its his problem not yours, you want to talk shit cause you think you're all that, try to discuss about drums with an all time drummer like me you'll be shitting thru your mouth for talking to much shit, if he has those drums is cause its part of becoming a drummer, how did you started playing drums? i don't think it was in a $4000 dollar kit was it? right cause that's to much for u.
So 93sk8erman and all who are talking shit about this guy give it a rest and put a sock in it and shut up, cause while you talk shit about other drummers, alot of other people are talking shit about you. You want to be a professional leveled drummer? start acting like one and give words of hope, make other drummers feel like their supported by you don't talk shit, just give them the best of your knowledge in your playing abilities and help them grow in their talent.
@orionsaturn777 Oh i love your videos too, Oh wait a sec.. wrong guy, With all due respect, Well i'll put this as lightley as i can, SHUT THE FUCK UP!
@nsudrumshard Aha! But he's not the only one that does it! I've seen many people do it, including myself. Like him, I put one on my ride every so often to decrease the ring of it. Gives it more of a "Dry Ride" effect. Though I guess I could just use my dry ride for that, haha. Point is it's great for jazz, or if you think the resonance is just too crazy long for what you're playing. You can change how much it effects it by how close it is to the edge, too.
@nsudrumshard your effing retarded if you think these chinas suck.they sound great :)no matter if they crack easy or not these are the best,worth every pennie!i had like 5 of these btw.js
@ramonbunny69 theres a reason you have had to buy 5 of them, and if you just totaled the money you wasted on 5 wuhans you could have bought a pro grade cymbal that would last you years.
You are fucking retard, Wuhan Cymbals sounds great, especially for heir fucking price! Guy on this video has fucking set of Meinl HCS, Zildjian ZHT etc... THIS IS what sounds like shit!!! Wuhan was the best cymbal in his set-up, but this moron fucked it up!!
seems like it would sound good if it was miced. the camera sucks.
exitoftheend 1 week ago
Jeez, no holes please. I use an 18" Wuhan China with no homemade holes and it sounds way better.
iheartZildjian 1 week ago
now, go make some holes in your drumheads!
ave0x029a 1 month ago 7
Sounds like Dildos...You could get the exact same sound from a crappy £10 cymbol.
Tewty11 2 months ago
Just don't drill holes in your Zildjian china. Zildjians are the ones that cost heaps!
Jakeequa 2 months ago
at least the toms sound good
BoNursukker 2 months ago
é eu tambem fiz isso em um prato meu e ficou essa bosta que ficou no seu tambem, valeu.
venicioteclados 2 months ago
0:48 I PLAY DRUMS!!! DER!!!!
charles12360 2 months ago
dude,,,,,,,fuck no man...smh-_-
IMIUIRIDIEIR 2 months ago
sounds like monkeyfuck.
LHondrums 3 months ago
way to fuck it up, let the professionals drill the holes, there are specific measurements the holes are drilled for it to resonate right... you completely wasted your money there.
OiHereticX 3 months ago 7
@OiHereticX It sounds ruined!
Jakeequa 2 months ago
@OiHereticX Hey first off, its a Wuhan, they are shit from china and are 20 bucks at a music shop, why the fuck not do that?
fireguy450 2 months ago
@fireguy450 but the those wuhan china cymbals are the best budget chinas ive ever seen to be fair, oh well
Thedeathmetalshit 1 month ago
Meinl HCS's! heeellll yess!
BoxOnWheelsPrdctns 3 months ago
i'd be careful playing so close with that LCD
Battossai3000 3 months ago
drumming amputee???
negao360 3 months ago
lets all drill holes in our cymbals so we can make sweet love to them
abc0918 3 months ago 34
@abc0918 Good idea!
spursfan112 3 months ago
haha atleast it looks kinda cool. derp.
JackSkunk420 4 months ago
that fuck up sounds like china
tappohailstoyou 4 months ago
That China sounds fucked up oO
SleepyFroggy 4 months ago
So this is what cymbals look like in Afganistan...
BTBdrummerBTB 4 months ago
gives a nice tangey kinda ear thorbing soun... infact they just sound like total shit...
GuitarAndDiablo 4 months ago
Sounds great, looks neat. What more could you ask for?
TomMSTie1138 5 months ago
I've done the same drilling thing to some of my Agops and their sound turns short, softer and china -like (normal shape crashes). The small holes work well in china cymbals because of their more rigid construction. No use to compare with f ex Ozone crash. That's whole different ball game.
sonorzepp 5 months ago
are you demented?? the gel pack thing is for the toms and snare. not the fucking ride.
Brok3nCarlos 5 months ago
lol that splash cymbal looks like a slice of cheese!
louis595 6 months ago
Really?!? who put's moon gel on a their ride!??!!!
MrPocketGroover 6 months ago
haha this guy has A.D.D. haha he starts by showing a china with holes in it. and ends by showing his kit random spiratic torettes- rythem. take yo meds and post a cover haha
beatsrus01 6 months ago
Kinda shitty stuff you got there, and i doubt it made it any better with thos holes of yours.. quit drumming plox
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orionsaturn777 6 months ago
the original holy china
hellohiholaify 6 months ago
ludwig accent cs :D!!? lol
XxLudwiGxX94 6 months ago
I thought you were showing us cymbals, whats with all the random notes on your bad sounding kit buddy...
MADROCKS212 6 months ago
lol Moongel on a ride?..
Nitram916 6 months ago
dude, throw out those Hcs's and get sum Mcs's. ten times better cymbals for the exact same price.
ACompetitiveHalo 6 months ago
damn mice can eat through anything!!!
skate4life9603 6 months ago
I like the splash, but I don't really notice a difference in the china.
torturekillers2006 6 months ago
Oh my God, I want that.... TV.
NerfLad 7 months ago
ARE YOU PARAPLEGIC IM SURE YOU ONLY HAVE ONE ARM XDXD
jeanchristian12345 7 months ago
haha HOMEMADE HOLY CHINA !! :D but the Holy China sounds 87128761287462873658723619287645 times better
FrickedrickedQc 7 months ago
Dude are you high...
663Ryan 7 months ago
is that moongel on ur ride?!
alexwojtowicz96 8 months ago
che cagata..
MauroPWA 8 months ago
q35eyqq333333333333333
TheProckboy 8 months ago
rs6jusr6yuriurt6i.worst china cymbal ever
TheProckboy 8 months ago
rs6jusr6yuriurt6i.worst ever
TheProckboy 8 months ago
rs6jusr6yuriurt6i.
TheProckboy 8 months ago
o my god...y would u do that to your cymbals!?
alexwojtowicz96 8 months ago
Umm do you still have the sticker on your TV telling the size? you can see more of the screen if you take it off you know.
PoliticalDestruction 8 months ago
They sound like shit.
fallingpatrik15 9 months ago
Instead of moongel, buy a decent ride cymbal!
MHunt1000 9 months ago
since sabian manufactures o-zone cymbals every idiot cuts holes in cymbals :D
RATLben 9 months ago
If you are dumb enough to put moon gel on cymbals, put the sticks down and get a new hobby, or play the recorder
steffsweet45 9 months ago
Look at me I'm so clever! I turned a China cymbal into an Ozone china, AND NOW IT SOUNDS LIKE SHIT.
OkayWolf 9 months ago
THATS A HOLY CHINA NO OZONE
OfivetwoekVeeDee 9 months ago
Good idea but you Fucked Up... Holes are too small and too many...The theory is to break up standing waves and cancel out nasty low register harmonics.
There is a mathematical equation involved to do with 'Size of hole and its placement... (usually 1/3 from edge of bell, to edge of cymbal) The other part of the equation is dependent on diameter of cymbal.
But at leased you gave it a go... Next time do some research on standing waves.. Hopefully the cymbals you fucked up were crappy anyway.
phoenix11994466 10 months ago 15
@phoenix11994466 i dont care if i messed up!! shitty cheap cymbal and i got it for free!!..
aso209 10 months ago 7
@aso209 And dont get down on yourself, life is nothing but expirimentation.
RenegadeSquirrels 9 months ago
@aso209 Sure, but shitty-cheap cymbals produce a shitty-cheap sound. ..So all you really achieved was a shitty-cheap cymbal with holes it...Shitty-cheap is shitty-cheap, no matter which way you cut it... Any improvement you think you hear is delusional.
phoenix11994466 8 months ago
@aso209 all your stuff sucks. throw it all away right now. You should jump in that garbage can as well.
benjewboynett 7 months ago
@aso209 should'a given it to someone who needed it, like me... Grade 8 and still on a beginners kit =(
metalmaster126 6 months ago
If your in a beginners kit don't worry man, their will come a day where you'll have a really expensive kit and your abilities on playing them will also be the same, that's if your playing isn't in advanced level yet, you might be in an advanced level in playing the drums and you might not know it, that happened to me years ago until i decided to record myself, you'll be amazed of how you play one's you record yourself. just keep drumming, you never know what good or great things might come to u.
orionsaturn777 6 months ago
@orionsaturn777 This is for @aso209 keep it up, don't quit.
orionsaturn777 6 months ago
@orionsaturn777 I'm getting a Tama Silverstar for Christmas =D
metalmaster126 6 months ago
@aso209
You're totally missing the point of his post. He's trying to help you from messing something up again.
GibsonSGKing 4 months ago
@phoenix11994466 ok then why did sabian do this with even more even smaller holes on there holy china
jamy313 8 months ago
@jamy313 I can only speak of the science behind harmonic standing waves, in relation to cymbals, in which I have a ton of experience in... Who knows why Sabian chose even smaller hole in their so called 'Holy China' cymbals... Maybe they're just jumping on a popular trendy notion, that you can improve the sound of any crappy cymbal simply by cutting holes in it (funny name 'Holy China')... In any event, a well made cymbal should have tuneful harmonic overtones, then no band aids are required
phoenix11994466 8 months ago
@phoenix11994466 Wow... way to get really offended by someone's project? I'm impressed at the fact that he did this at all. By the way, you sound really smart just saying "mathematical equations" and "leased".
Kelavmeister 8 months ago
@Kelavmeister Well thank you dude, and I'm impressed you took the time to acknowledge my contribution against misinformation. Usually I just shake my head and move on when I see ignorant BS on YouTube. But this time something snapped, and lead me to thinking... "If I don't set this guy straight, others may think drilling holes in cymbals improves their sound". So I pulled out trusty Sword Of Damocles, and did smite that BS from the land of YoTube forever. Hmmm, who's next
phoenix11994466 8 months ago
@Kelavmeister Dude you must be really arrogant thinking that I was out to impress you.
By the way, it's not that I'm smart, it's just that you're too dumb to understand big words.
phoenix11994466 5 months ago
@phoenix11994466 I don't think you read my comment.. at all???? haha I said the guy who did this impressed me, NOT you at all. YOUR arrogance doesn't impress me. And I was being sarcastic about you using "big words" because those were obviously just an attempt to sound smart on your part, and not big words at all. Nice try though trying to make me feel stupid, dude.
Kelavmeister 5 months ago
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@Kelavmeister I don't have to make you look stupid, because you are already stupid, DUDE
phoenix11994466 5 months ago
@phoenix11994466 i think ur right with the hole theory, but dont you dare to call a WUHAN CHINA a crappy cymbal, o yes it can be cheap, but no china can sound like that. they in my opinion a better sound than orientals. Wuhan's are the original chinas! now other brand would have a 27" china because they are afraid of them >=D
PAnsitoQuemado766 5 months ago
@PAnsitoQuemado766 Yes I agree, no one can make a china -cymbal like they make them in China... When I went shopping for a china-cymbal, I checked out all the popular brands. Zildian, Sabian, Paste . They all sounded different, but I wasn't happy with any of them... A friend suggested I check out a local Chinese importer. He had a huge shop selling everything from firecrackers to Chinese herbal medicine and including genuine made in China china-cymbals, so I brought a 24" one, it sounds great
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angelacevedo2112 5 months ago
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@phoenix11994466 holy china has holes like that.iam not encourageing to drill out hole in any cymbal but some
cymbals sound good wit holes ...................just not this one
angelacevedo2112 5 months ago
@phoenix11994466 sabians holy china is cut like this and it sounds amazing
DJJPLin 4 months ago
@DJJPLin If thats what you think, then for you that is true... But I know different
phoenix11994466 4 months ago
YEAHHH! 1:22-2:05! DRUM SOLO!
ANeonGenesis 10 months ago
@thecravenator42069 Indeed!
ohboyitsportnoy 10 months ago
Gotta love the holes
gandja8889 11 months ago
wow shitty kit all together
93sk8erman 11 months ago 22
@93sk8erman yeah shtiity you huahahahaa!!
aso209 10 months ago 2
@aso209 ok i was joking and at least i don't waste my money and time on making wuhan ozones dumbass and what i was saying about your shitty set i was talking about your shitty evans drum head i like the remo snare head btw and i wrote the comment a month a go idiot!
93sk8erman 10 months ago
@93sk8erman and your gay ass triggers
93sk8erman 9 months ago
@aso209 fuck you ya shitty as cunt
93sk8erman 9 months ago
@aso209 How Did you do it? And does it take a special kind of drill/bit?
MrChaney38 7 months ago
mapexroionclassicseries: First of all what kind of drums do you play? If the guy wanted to put holes in his china its his problem not yours, you want to talk shit cause you think you're all that, try to discuss about drums with an all time drummer like me you'll be shitting thru your mouth for talking to much shit, if he has those drums is cause its part of becoming a drummer, how did you started playing drums? i don't think it was in a $4000 dollar kit was it? right cause that's to much for u.
orionsaturn777 6 months ago
So 93sk8erman and all who are talking shit about this guy give it a rest and put a sock in it and shut up, cause while you talk shit about other drummers, alot of other people are talking shit about you. You want to be a professional leveled drummer? start acting like one and give words of hope, make other drummers feel like their supported by you don't talk shit, just give them the best of your knowledge in your playing abilities and help them grow in their talent.
orionsaturn777 6 months ago
@orionsaturn777 Oh i love your videos too, Oh wait a sec.. wrong guy, With all due respect, Well i'll put this as lightley as i can, SHUT THE FUCK UP!
93sk8erman 6 months ago
so out of interest how did you make the holes in it? im thinking of doing this but dont wonna bollox it up lol
gluv1 11 months ago
people pay 200 300 dollars for these i want that soo bad but the price tag is big for that
jeffhardy664 11 months ago
@jeffhardy664 for a wuhan? try 50 bucks
platapush 11 months ago
Moon Gel on a cymbal!? xo
DamionChrist 11 months ago
sabian holy china!
clanofhyrule 11 months ago
Woa i cant believe u actually drilled holes in it! Nasty!!
noconflictbanana 1 year ago
Dude that's sick!
1L0v3P1zz4 1 year ago
omg...HCS+moongel=double shit
kikme778 1 year ago 36
can i do this for a crack on the edge of my cymbal, so it would kinda be a little bigger then a half circle?
louiebarletta42 1 year ago
hmm snare sounds like marching band maybe 2 snares be cool
timster47386 1 year ago
wuhans sound like shit before you drill the holes in em, and why do you have moon gels on your cymbals, resonance is the point?
nsudrumshard 1 year ago
@nsudrumshard Aha! But he's not the only one that does it! I've seen many people do it, including myself. Like him, I put one on my ride every so often to decrease the ring of it. Gives it more of a "Dry Ride" effect. Though I guess I could just use my dry ride for that, haha. Point is it's great for jazz, or if you think the resonance is just too crazy long for what you're playing. You can change how much it effects it by how close it is to the edge, too.
NoahIceDrums 1 year ago
@nsudrumshard i want dry sound for my song thats why i put the mOoNgEL!!
aso209 1 year ago
@nsudrumshard Ride cymbals resonate for quite awhile, it's common for people to put a piece of moon gel on them so they don't ring out for forever.
WhenxChristxReturnsx 1 year ago
@nsudrumshard your effing retarded if you think these chinas suck.they sound great :)no matter if they crack easy or not these are the best,worth every pennie!i had like 5 of these btw.js
ramonbunny69 10 months ago
@ramonbunny69 theres a reason you have had to buy 5 of them, and if you just totaled the money you wasted on 5 wuhans you could have bought a pro grade cymbal that would last you years.
nsudrumshard 10 months ago
@nsudrumshard theses are pro chinas ,just not made well.!my favorite is this ..but now im saving for a zildjan china trash.
ramonbunny69 10 months ago
@ramonbunny69 Try the chad smith holy china from sabian, the zild china trash is scared of it.
Seriously listen to that china. It will blow your mind.
ohboyitsportnoy 10 months ago
@nsudrumshard
You are fucking retard, Wuhan Cymbals sounds great, especially for heir fucking price! Guy on this video has fucking set of Meinl HCS, Zildjian ZHT etc... THIS IS what sounds like shit!!! Wuhan was the best cymbal in his set-up, but this moron fucked it up!!
NickDrummerful 4 months ago
wuts the difference between a normal cymbal and a o-zone cymbal? i dont see any diferences on the sound
LuiDeca 1 year ago
@LuiDeca listen more cymbals.
simaojoseph 1 year ago
Hey that sounds sick! what do you use to cut the holes?
Bobbysk815 1 year ago
@Bobbysk815 i used the step drill and you can buy it from harbor freight store.
aso209 1 year ago
dam!
that sounds awesome!
jesse17ful 1 year ago
HOW DID YOU DO IT?
allmetaliswelcome 1 year ago