Does anyone know a good gear site that tells what gear artists use on certain songs.So far I've only found uberaudio,which is ok.The info is very general.
Hi - just wanted to let you all know - this is a pedal using germanium and silicon transistors plus a germanium diode at the back . The silicon raises the gain , the germanium gives it that sweet transparency and the diode smooths the signal . Of course the pedal can be copied at a lower price , but this is indeed the real McCoy and I guarantee you it does not cost less than $100 to produce - rock on - H
You said produce not develop, you didn't say anything about how how much it would have initially cost them to get the tooling made to get their enclosures pressed out. Once they're past that stage, they would have been making these quite cheaply.
I just fail to see in logic in that comment then, any company is going to spend more than $100 when bringing a new product to the market, regadless of what it is. What are you trying to tell everyone.
eggman - for goodness sake I'm not looking for an argument - all I've said is the pedal costs more than $100 to produce - I can guarentee you that this is correct !!!
What you're saying is that you can copy the pedal for less- that's fine too .
The only reason I replied is because you told me i was talking rubbish ! Honestly , I'm not trying to tell everyone anything !!!
For the record , the production cost of this pedal , regardless of development is over $100 - 100% !!
Having manufactured effects pedals for 35 years, I can assure you that these are produced for well under $10 each. There's more mark-up on this rubbish than on most drugs!
$50? You're being ripped off. Even at retail component costs you'd have difficulty in spending more than $20 including a nice diecast box to house it!
don´t know where to find an original Tonebender MkI, very rare realla, but D*A*M* made a clone, called 1966. that should give you that sound. I ordered an JMI Tonebender, should give that sound quite well also, but is more for Led Zeppelin. Or take a look at the Music Ground store in London
Yeah you're right. I'm searching right now for a MK1 (Vox Tone Bender V828) used on Revolver Beatles album. Got a hint where to buy one. I know they are rare.
lol wake up folks, if you're solder iron happy then you can order the parts for somewhere near or below $50. Germanium transistors and stuff. Granted it may not be 'the original' but only you should care about that.
For a good test, you should turn the knobs, and mr jacksoncustomshop, don't talk rubbish, visit the Macaris of London website, and check the components, you don't find these under ¢100, though you could approach the sound, but that's what all these modern pedals do, but they never sound the same, and with every component update they sound worse. THIS IS THE REAL SH*T!!!
Thats an interesting comment. Every electronic circuit in the world is able to be recreated. The circuit on Macaris is not that complex. Its similar to the VOX Tonebender in part count and it can be built. Saying that new pedals sound bad is your personal opinion and may not reflect someone else. Just because you have a limited comprehension of electronics, does not mean you need to tell other that you know something it.
I did not mean they sound bad, but only that with updates the sound removes from the original, like with the Colorsound Wah (I have both the original and re-issue) and the A/DA Flanger as the most famous ones. they seem to sound alike, but the grittyness is gone, and yes, my knowledge of electronic components is limited, but my ears do not fool me, it seems that old components (even though the are in facto maybe worth a few cents) sound different than newer ones.
Personally i think it has to do with the raw materials used in those days. with the times they looked for a way to produce cheaper, and make components smaller, that lead to a deterioration/change in quality/properties (especially in the late '80's), this is called profitmaximaliztion ( i do know economics), there are some places that still produce quality components, but those are a bit more expensive (and are still not the same as the one made 40 years ago)
I have vintage parts and they are still easy to get a hold of. The picture of the tonebender on that website had thin leads on many of the components. If you really want a vintage pedal, its very easy to et vintage parts and build one. But many factor affect the sound of the pedal as well, humidity, guitar, pickups, guitar construction, amp, cables, temperature, current from outlets, etc. Bottom line, this particular pedal is not using any vintage components and is less than $100 in parts.
Also that is called economics, like modern US cars are worth a few bucks in plastic and aluminium, they get sold a fortune up here, but imo the sola sound tone bender sounds way fine compared to a lot of others (as is also with f.i. the Colorsound wah), and for factors that determine sound, i am an audio-engineer, so thats known to me. My bottom line is, it is a damn fine pedal, that seems to be worth the money for a lot of guitar gourmets, even though its partsvalue is lower.
Maybe one day i will place an order at you for a pedal, if i can find out a nice vintage effect, have you got examples on the tube? i am very curious for which sounds you can reproduce.
(i am looking now for a A/DA flanger, with the SAD1024 IC, and a original Ibanez FP777 (got one stupid trying to sell me one for €750,- i only pay €250,- max.), for both re-issues sound too clean compared to the original (as with a lot of re-issues.))
I recommend an Analog Delay or a clone based off the Boss Slow Gear effect that sells for $600 or something. It is like a volume swell effect. Another idea is a nice tube-like tremolo. The two pedals you recommend seem to have limited documentation, but certainly can be done, for much less than the prices they are getting on ebay.
You'll get what you deserve, in your case; Mucho Kudos.
I own several vintage pedals, amps, and more, so i only like to speak out of experience, and not by what i'm told to by others.
Off course you can buy the others and most people in the crowd do not even bother about the differences, but i like to choose what i like, and that is the real stuff. (for i CAN hear it) It is a sound issue, and not a brand issue, I also have the Vox Mod with the stack-o dimes, but it gets beaten by the Colorsound.
By that i meant the Wah's. for the Fuzzes i have those built by Roger Mayer, but again i like the Solasound more. (sounds a bit fuller, and has again that raw edge)
Also on Harmony i left some positivity for the Macari shop, and get frequently asked by total strangers about my opinion, or where to buy, so i always reply by "let YOUR ears be the judge, and after that check out the Macari site".
Yes. The fuzz circuit is one of the most easiest circuits to make. If you open it up, there is really only $50 or so in parts. You pay for the hype and name.
Yes. The fuzz circuit is one of the most easiest circuits to make. If you open it up, there is really only $50 or so in parts. You pay for the hype and name.
Just send me a private message saying you want one. I build it for you to your liking, you pay, I ship. Its a lot less for me to build one than for you to drop $200-$300+ on one that will sound the same.
Very nice sounding - has that great pinch. I must say that my MJM Britbender (tonebender clone) sounds alot darker than this but I love it just the same.
Actually, this is not the real thing. The company might be the same but it is just a reissue, not so close to the original. Far more gentle than the original screaming beast.
i crave all fuzz, especially my girlfriends, but not the kind that eats donuts and busts you for smoking weed, seriously where can this be bought?
userboy6 4 months ago
Nope - dont like this one bit.
slugpumper1 5 months ago
@minpinful You mean "Savoy Truffle"?
joejoe3011 1 year ago
Does anyone know a good gear site that tells what gear artists use on certain songs.So far I've only found uberaudio,which is ok.The info is very general.
ureadmymind 1 year ago
Have read comments with interest
having just built my first go-Kart for $35 am going to mail Ferrari telling them their cars are overpriced !
honker2004 1 year ago 8
These are available from Macaris in the UK and musictoyz in the US :]
Trailerpretty 1 year ago
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Trailerpretty 1 year ago
fuzz off....lol....
100roberthenry 2 years ago
That is impressive. Where did you buy that? Did you make it? Do you know where I could find one?
zeitgeistmachine 2 years ago
could you do another demo of this pedal? with tweaking the knobs a bit more?
peacemusic17 2 years ago
I've built a lot of pedals and I'd actually be willing to buy this one. Its got to be my favorite modern built fuzz. Sola sound does a great job.
kac3909 2 years ago
Hi mercedez7000!
Can you show me a demo with fuzz level at "zero" and volume and tone at half?
Thanks...
SP221177 2 years ago
Where can I get my hands on one of these?
Rambo29 2 years ago
Hi - just wanted to let you all know - this is a pedal using germanium and silicon transistors plus a germanium diode at the back . The silicon raises the gain , the germanium gives it that sweet transparency and the diode smooths the signal . Of course the pedal can be copied at a lower price , but this is indeed the real McCoy and I guarantee you it does not cost less than $100 to produce - rock on - H
honker2004 2 years ago
To honker2004
Where do you get that not costing less than $100 to produce rubbish from?
I could make one for less than $50, and i wont be getting the bulk discounts that Sola Sound would have.
eggman6 2 years ago
no - you'd be making a copy - v easy for $50
to produce this pedal from start to finish Colorsound invested $1000s and without that development , you'd have no pedal to copy !
The cost of producing a pedal to a pedal company is much more than the cost of a few components, an off the shelf case and a soldering iron .
please think before you describe my comments as rubbish again
thanks
H
honker2004 2 years ago
You said produce not develop, you didn't say anything about how how much it would have initially cost them to get the tooling made to get their enclosures pressed out. Once they're past that stage, they would have been making these quite cheaply.
I just fail to see in logic in that comment then, any company is going to spend more than $100 when bringing a new product to the market, regadless of what it is. What are you trying to tell everyone.
eggman6 2 years ago
eggman - for goodness sake I'm not looking for an argument - all I've said is the pedal costs more than $100 to produce - I can guarentee you that this is correct !!!
What you're saying is that you can copy the pedal for less- that's fine too .
The only reason I replied is because you told me i was talking rubbish ! Honestly , I'm not trying to tell everyone anything !!!
For the record , the production cost of this pedal , regardless of development is over $100 - 100% !!
honker2004 2 years ago
@honker2004
Having manufactured effects pedals for 35 years, I can assure you that these are produced for well under $10 each. There's more mark-up on this rubbish than on most drugs!
mictester 1 year ago
@eggman6
$50? You're being ripped off. Even at retail component costs you'd have difficulty in spending more than $20 including a nice diecast box to house it!
mictester 1 year ago
@mictester
Maybe if you live in the US, i dont.
eggman6 1 year ago
@mictester
The footswitch, pots and knobs that Sola Sound is using will easily sum up to 20$ reatail.
TelegramSam84 1 year ago 2
@TelegramSam84 hey, i am building fuzz tones. check out my vids. thanks
orbitbuilder
orbitbuilder 1 year ago
well I know, but when I once have it I need to play it and in 60 years or so I will also make the double money : )
turnindropout 2 years ago
Isn't the coolest thing to do on these to sustain a note and at the same time bend another? None of the videos I found here show it...
ppetracco 2 years ago
don´t know where to find an original Tonebender MkI, very rare realla, but D*A*M* made a clone, called 1966. that should give you that sound. I ordered an JMI Tonebender, should give that sound quite well also, but is more for Led Zeppelin. Or take a look at the Music Ground store in London
turnindropout 2 years ago
Don't play the JMI...keep it in the box and sell it in a year or two when they're all gone. You'll make double your money back easily.
Priole2000 2 years ago
oh no Jimmy Page used a Tonebender MkII without the tone button, sounds much different
turnindropout 2 years ago
Yeah you're right. I'm searching right now for a MK1 (Vox Tone Bender V828) used on Revolver Beatles album. Got a hint where to buy one. I know they are rare.
sinning1966 2 years ago
lol wake up folks, if you're solder iron happy then you can order the parts for somewhere near or below $50. Germanium transistors and stuff. Granted it may not be 'the original' but only you should care about that.
snowblood82 3 years ago
did jimmy page use this?
mance02 3 years ago
yes!
OhYeah729 3 years ago
oh yes he did ^^
BazzTheBoss 3 years ago
where can I get 1, it sounds good?!
mance02 3 years ago
For a good test, you should turn the knobs, and mr jacksoncustomshop, don't talk rubbish, visit the Macaris of London website, and check the components, you don't find these under ¢100, though you could approach the sound, but that's what all these modern pedals do, but they never sound the same, and with every component update they sound worse. THIS IS THE REAL SH*T!!!
Tonyp68 3 years ago
Thats an interesting comment. Every electronic circuit in the world is able to be recreated. The circuit on Macaris is not that complex. Its similar to the VOX Tonebender in part count and it can be built. Saying that new pedals sound bad is your personal opinion and may not reflect someone else. Just because you have a limited comprehension of electronics, does not mean you need to tell other that you know something it.
jacksoncustomshop 3 years ago
I did not mean they sound bad, but only that with updates the sound removes from the original, like with the Colorsound Wah (I have both the original and re-issue) and the A/DA Flanger as the most famous ones. they seem to sound alike, but the grittyness is gone, and yes, my knowledge of electronic components is limited, but my ears do not fool me, it seems that old components (even though the are in facto maybe worth a few cents) sound different than newer ones.
Tonyp68 3 years ago
Personally i think it has to do with the raw materials used in those days. with the times they looked for a way to produce cheaper, and make components smaller, that lead to a deterioration/change in quality/properties (especially in the late '80's), this is called profitmaximaliztion ( i do know economics), there are some places that still produce quality components, but those are a bit more expensive (and are still not the same as the one made 40 years ago)
Tonyp68 3 years ago
I have vintage parts and they are still easy to get a hold of. The picture of the tonebender on that website had thin leads on many of the components. If you really want a vintage pedal, its very easy to et vintage parts and build one. But many factor affect the sound of the pedal as well, humidity, guitar, pickups, guitar construction, amp, cables, temperature, current from outlets, etc. Bottom line, this particular pedal is not using any vintage components and is less than $100 in parts.
jacksoncustomshop 3 years ago
Also that is called economics, like modern US cars are worth a few bucks in plastic and aluminium, they get sold a fortune up here, but imo the sola sound tone bender sounds way fine compared to a lot of others (as is also with f.i. the Colorsound wah), and for factors that determine sound, i am an audio-engineer, so thats known to me. My bottom line is, it is a damn fine pedal, that seems to be worth the money for a lot of guitar gourmets, even though its partsvalue is lower.
Tonyp68 3 years ago
Maybe one day i will place an order at you for a pedal, if i can find out a nice vintage effect, have you got examples on the tube? i am very curious for which sounds you can reproduce.
(i am looking now for a A/DA flanger, with the SAD1024 IC, and a original Ibanez FP777 (got one stupid trying to sell me one for €750,- i only pay €250,- max.), for both re-issues sound too clean compared to the original (as with a lot of re-issues.))
Tonyp68 3 years ago
I recommend an Analog Delay or a clone based off the Boss Slow Gear effect that sells for $600 or something. It is like a volume swell effect. Another idea is a nice tube-like tremolo. The two pedals you recommend seem to have limited documentation, but certainly can be done, for much less than the prices they are getting on ebay.
jacksoncustomshop 3 years ago
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honker2004 2 years ago
You'll get what you deserve, in your case; Mucho Kudos.
I own several vintage pedals, amps, and more, so i only like to speak out of experience, and not by what i'm told to by others.
Off course you can buy the others and most people in the crowd do not even bother about the differences, but i like to choose what i like, and that is the real stuff. (for i CAN hear it) It is a sound issue, and not a brand issue, I also have the Vox Mod with the stack-o dimes, but it gets beaten by the Colorsound.
Tonyp68 2 years ago
By that i meant the Wah's. for the Fuzzes i have those built by Roger Mayer, but again i like the Solasound more. (sounds a bit fuller, and has again that raw edge)
Also on Harmony i left some positivity for the Macari shop, and get frequently asked by total strangers about my opinion, or where to buy, so i always reply by "let YOUR ears be the judge, and after that check out the Macari site".
Tonyp68 2 years ago
I could build one for under $100!
jacksoncustomshop 3 years ago
with exactly the same sound as this yellow sola tonebender ?
shivarii 3 years ago
Yes. The fuzz circuit is one of the most easiest circuits to make. If you open it up, there is really only $50 or so in parts. You pay for the hype and name.
jacksoncustomshop 3 years ago
Yes. The fuzz circuit is one of the most easiest circuits to make. If you open it up, there is really only $50 or so in parts. You pay for the hype and name.
jacksoncustomshop 3 years ago
more like $30
forcedfirepedals 3 years ago
Depends on the exact circuit, transistors, and all.
jacksoncustomshop 3 years ago
ok - tell me how to order at yours this kind of pedal for 100$
doveinfly 3 years ago
Just send me a private message saying you want one. I build it for you to your liking, you pay, I ship. Its a lot less for me to build one than for you to drop $200-$300+ on one that will sound the same.
jacksoncustomshop 3 years ago
how to proceed to get one at yours at this price
shivarii 3 years ago
I'm interested by one under 100$-how to proceed ?
shivarii 3 years ago
Sounds a bit like an octavia, but less musical.
hafstrat 3 years ago
Man, I wish I could afford that. Its 300 bucks, right.
LemonInYourEye 3 years ago
Great Sound ...........!!!!!!!
eflat70 4 years ago
Very nice sounding - has that great pinch. I must say that my MJM Britbender (tonebender clone) sounds alot darker than this but I love it just the same.
akrem3 4 years ago
great, but where can i buy one?!?
PageandPlant4Life 4 years ago
Macari's Music, Charing Cross Road, London! But they're £199. :o(
delbhoye 3 years ago
sounds great, but one question. what happens when rolling down the fuzz control?
ilichinfiction 4 years ago
Best fuzz sound Ive heard.
shackleton1 4 years ago
Very similar to my Fulltone Soul-Bender. I am glad I have heard the real thing. Thanks
stratojetb47 4 years ago
Actually, this is not the real thing. The company might be the same but it is just a reissue, not so close to the original. Far more gentle than the original screaming beast.
bloodySunday77 4 years ago