The Transparent Society: Secrecy vs. Privacy, Part 1

[babylonIZfallin]

David is barking up the wrong fish from where I STAND, not entirely, though, SELF RESPONSIBILITY is key firstly and they can, WHO ever they R, watch _ME_ ALL they LIKE as long as they don't expect _ME_2 watch them... .

[babylonIZfallin]

I have no secrets and once you share a secret then could it still be called a secret as such REALLY.

[papacarpenter]

What are your thoughts on the current Wikileaks situation?

[XOmniverse]

Your perspective on privacy is really interesting. It does seem like to desire for privacy is grounded in a desire to evade abuses. We only don't want people to know things about us when we expect that knowledge to lead to verbal or physical abuse. It's specifically a situation in which a small group looks down on us (without us being able to look back) that we demand and insist on privacy.

[raekane]

I must admit that I have not read your book, but i listened to a debate from you and Brad Templeton a few years back, and it made me think about privacy.

I don't know If you bring this up in your book, but you bring up the idea that you can't stop those who choose to see from seeing, that surveillance technology is always improving, get smaller and better. But what about those who refuse to be seen, will technology stop improving from them?

[raekane]

I imagine that there will be a new type of privacy advocate. Not one who preaches about lack of privacy, but one who will just take back anonymity by will.

I imagine they, like hackers today, will use surveillance against itself, mostly because people believe what they see on their monitors as truth. If you can manipulate what people can see, you can manipulate what they can't see. Either people will doubt, or trust the cameras , either way, some people will make privacy on their on terms.

[silona]

Hey David we should talk further about my concept of mutual ownershipship of data - more specifically creating equitable relationships btn those mutual owners.

I want to do a new BANK - OpenBank! we should chat again... I have potential funders and want to do another thinktank for it (like I did for transparent federal budget)

my fav response to people that say "privacy is dead - get over it." I ask "where are your naked pics on the internet" (or if that doesn't phase them you sex tapes

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