Re: Riot in Tibet: True face of western media

[SimojaJanne]

I doubt the sincerity of this video, many things sound out of the "facts" I've heard so far. What to believe? This one sounds like the Chinese version of the "truth". I am pretty sure that there is gold in Tibet:) And wood, and pastures. All of those are good interests for China. Also the strategic position next to India and other countries is very intriguing, so many interests exist for China. Tibetan want to be free, and it should be granted to them, as it should be granted to every willing 1.

[SimojaJanne]

5000rmb is not true, it is max. 1200 rmb.

[chillichris888]

5000 yuan isnt that much

[xuci111111]

5000 yuan is MUCH in China

Don't always change the currency between Dollars and Yuan, there's a market value! 10 Yuan might be worth just 1 dollar, but for example you can buy a carrot in US for 1 dollar and in China you can buy a carrot for 1 yuan!

People always yell: "Chinese are underwage! They earn 100 dollars in a month!" Have you ever thought in market 1000 yuan is like 1500 dollars, not 100!

[irishswallow]

0.50usd buy a lunch, will you think that is expensive? in china, you could get a standard lunch at this price.

[splittist]

carrying machetes? they were chinese agent provocateurs.

there are just too many holes in your argument for me to bother amending them.

[fouad2good]

It was asserted that Iraq could and would destroy the world using nuclear weapons. The only "debate" among media and opinion leaders is: should Iraq be given more time to destroy the weapons - I, as an Iraqis, believed them.

The media also indicated that Iraq was the one behind 9-11, and I, although a bit confused, believed them.

Now I know they are liars - however, are they going to pay for their victims?

Free Iraq from foreign occupants - boycott 2012 London Olympics - right now.

[emptyna]

why this happen? US is behind the scene, and Dalai want his slave back sinse our leader Mao free the slave from the "god's hand"

[emptyna]

one question.. one simple question..

Tibet is rule by religion.. how you think Dalai feed his monk? those monk do not work, they don't farm their land~~~ there are no government nor anything.. the entire Tibet is rule by religion!!!

Dalai is a slave leader!! go read your history book, and see what really happen!!

[kunga141185]

there are people who go to monastries if you know and few make donations to the monastry.. this is how the monks survive and feed themselves

[emptyna]

this is not how tibet monk live~~

tibet monk own huge land, and before 1945 the monk claim that all people in the low cast are low cast because of their sin. therefor they must donate everything to "god"~~

this is still not true~~ not even today.. they still own a huge land, they still make a huge profit every year..

[anarchycastro]

of course the olympics is a political event, there have been many boycotts before, due to politics, and as far as not raising the plight of suffering (not just tibetian) to the public view because of the 'event' should not be politicised takes away the duty to talk out against such crimes against humanity...every stage is a valid stage to bring attention to suffering, it is everyones duty to know and help

[anarchycastro]

with all this "western media lies" video from china supporters, i get the feeling they are nervous about something...and yes i accept western media isn't the best, but as far as lies goes, how could you trust the unflinching biased chinese propoganda, that is blatant biased reporting.

[nangoyang]

We know what is precise and what is not so precise. Only one thing: did CNN, Reuters, and AFP filtered the Chinese protesting pictures before drafting reports? If so, they are hiding truths.

Don't give other examples; now we are just talking "western media lies".

[anarchycastro]

obvioulsy you have a biased opinion, so there isn't much point in hearing anything from you

[nangoyang]

That is descriptive, while someone like you tend to mix things up.

[GodIsANavySeal]

generalising and saying ALL western media is full of lies is bigotry, it is a gross overstatement, it is a biased opinion, and thus any other views or comments made by that person have to been taken a s potenially biased aswell, so nangoyang, if you do have anything else to say, think first before commenting...

[nangoyang]

OK, thanks for pointing out the logic fault I didn't notice

Not All western media, but CNN, AFP, and Reuters make biased reports, right?

[goodlookingmartian]

i hugely support this video, hope somebody else can support it, he has a beautiful vioce with a beautiful logical line.

[Grenzfall08]

FYI，the price of the train ticket from Beijing to Lhasa is 384 Yuan(approximately 38Euros). I do not know where you quote the data, like 5000 Yuan. Pls next time double check any data when you quote it for public use, Thx!

[haha010101]

LOL

how do u know Dalai Lama was spirtual holy man? well, do u know him? or u heard of him... this is a question

[sebyiweiwan]

My comment continues here: (Apparently NOT coz the department of defence, I mean the biggest one in the world, is having war every where possible, and they have but Communist and Terrorists to fight against, not sleeping quite comfortably! ^_^)

[sebyiweiwan]

Well one thing I dont know if I shall point out in the big issue is that most Han nationals around me, even in Australia, have in their mind that the party's quite merciful to have liberated the Slavery state a.k.a. Tibet, this is no better than the Confederation thinking of owning the African migrants. The country's not quite a free place but on the way of getting there gradually I reckon, so please can we all live peacefully?

[flamingmonkeyuk]

Self-determination. If the tibetans want to become independant, even at the cost of their GDP and social benefits, etc then that it their choice. No-one, Chinese or 'Western' (I hate that term), has the right to prevent them from self-governance.

[flamingmonkeyuk]

I meant 'that is their choice'. Damn typing-prohibitive properties of Sambuca!! ;)

[nangoyang]

So do the American Natives, Hawaiians, Quebecois, Scots, and Welshmen.

[flamingmonkeyuk]

Precisely the reason why Scotland hasn't declared independance yet, despite having an independance party in power- they can't afford to.

[cervicalia]

Thank you for the commentary, this is a thoughtful and unbiased perspective on the whole thing. The sad thing is, most of the Westerners will scream: "you got brainwashed by the Chinese government" if you say anything positive about China. Ironic.

[0311ohrah]

Very esducated analysis! Good job, neede to stop the black out, photos! Thank you!

[huangyihua]

everything is basic on people's right, without puting labour and money to rebuild tibet, we can see how is the increase in personal income in these years. all government did is to helping ppl in tibet, so why some ppl would so eager to be independent. government save ppl in tibet from slavery, what is more horrible? the last words are very right, use your comment sense to judge be4 u just follow the wetern reporters' report.

[nn0866]

If you didn't investigate, don't talk. Our government putting 6.7 billion RMBs to Tibet since 2001. We are going to put 2 billion more to build Tibet and helping poor people there.

[takedamasami]

Have you already forgotten about Tiananmen Square massacre? This is what the chinese government is all about. They have total disregard for any basic human rights and it's happening to the Tibetans.

China ordered all foreign journalist out of Tibet!!!! What are you hiding China?

Shame on you China, the whole world is watching and condemning your barbaric ways to torture and murder innocent people, including children.

[nn0866]

Have you already forgotten about the Nanjing Slaughter in China by Japanese? This is what the Japan government about. Everybody has the right to discuss, but I think you Japanese don't have.

[CdtRSM]

completely different situation, Japan pillaging

conquered city is different to china shooting its PEOPLE, with the PEOPLE's liberation army, there's a bit of bit of irony there

[splittist]

བོད༌རང༌བཙན། ༢༠༠༨

Free Tibet 2008

[ginandtonix]

Another part of the Chinese propaganda. "Rich fight the poor in every part of world" -- last I have heard this was when there were communists governing my country. Now these bastards are gone, but in Chine they are still on, that is why you can hear this video (wanted to say see, but the guy is shy to show his face for an obvious reason...).

[izknowzy]

Thank youh. but its unfortunate that this will not get though the chinese Thick brainwashed heads. =( I love some chinese peoples little remarks.. "have you been to china!" "china is rebuilding tibet" "dont try to split our country" "its WEstern media" YOU CANNOT JUSTIFY KILLING AND TORTURING ALL THOSE TIBETANS.. NO LIE WILL GET YOU OUT OF IT. NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU DENY.

[artandwine]

I am happy to see so many Chinese in support free & unbiased press. This is a fundamental human right of freedom & democracy. I look forward to these protesters joining hands with everyone in the free-world to end media censorship in China.

[dhx3000]

China didn't kill Tibetan monks and nuns and just let them get married and be normal men and women and were not slaves of Dalai cliques forever. The fact is that the 1.2 millions monks and nuns are vanished and became normal men and women, got married and produced more tibetans now with 6 milion population and some of them want to fight to china.

[ecerv]

I also like your video, very Buddhist taking the middle path. I think that people riot when they are extremely unhappy. Enough money to live is not enough to make a person happy, you also need basic freedoms and participation in development. From what I understand the Tibetans were not involved in the recent development of Tibet and do not have basic freedoms (religious freedom for example)

[paulkaikwonglee]

For those viewers who think China's economy is centralized tells me that these people have never been to China. The truth is the economy is as capitalistic as it gets. Far more than most of the Scandinavian countries.

[Monte078]

If tibetans have absolutely nothing they why chinese murderers are so afraid to release it? I'm sure tibetans know better what's good for them than china occupants. I find no logic in these stupid videos. Good thing is that all world now knows about tibetan occupation and no more tourists will flow to that country, so china will no longer be able to exploit tibet and chinese business will make no profit from tourism

[wawdj]

TO monte078

simple logic, a mother will never give up her child no matter how poor they are.

[Kellyuu276]

Naive...Chinese government doesn't get money from tourism in Tibet, instead, they put money there just for maintenance and development.

I don't believe taking so-called "history", "love" etc. as reasons China doesn't want Tibet to be split.

It's simply out of security reason, western countries want to take Tibet as a start to invade China.If Tibet is split, Xinjiang would be next, Qinghai would be next and the western world would have a much weaker competitor for resources!!

[littledustball]

not sure what you're trying to say there since the words are unbarably slow, but when i got to "would you rob a bank?" my mind instantly said "because they would!" LOL.

[andylast0319]

Have you ever been to China?Have you ever seen the changes in China?If you don't ,just shut up!

Actually,you ridiculous so-called "IDEAS" makes me feel sorry for the education you've got.

I lived in China over 20 years and I'm experiencing the changes.Believe me,China is getting better and better.Probably that's why so many negative reports about China,but most of them are lies.

[matt17173]

I agree with you on your most ideas, but Dalai lama is more like a CIA walking dog rather than a holy

[kkndca]

for those who would only believe one-side story, why not take a tour to china, you can find the truth there, not just listen what others said. Believe yourself!

China welcome you.

[jackzhang75]

All bullshit

[onegoodman66]

very well said! some pictures would make the video even better! Good JOB!

[ju5ju6ju7]

Basically, I agree with your ideas

[xiust]

Well said. If I may add another view point, and please tell me if you think I'm wrong (and I hope I am): I'm beginning to think that the Chinese are becoming the new Jews. The world is adopting a anti-Sinoism, like it adopted anti-Semitism centuries ago. China needs to increase defence spending and work with overseas Chinese to establish influence over the Western media. Need half the Chinese population be killed before they know to take pragmatic steps to defend against unjust world hatred?

[AFlyAFly]

T suggest you to study the history of China, including Tibet, first.

[sanpetter1]

holy man?the crusades were assembled by who?

the popes!!were they holy man?

holy is just a halo and camouflage.

dalai lama is a dummy of the refugees.i think.

[pchen442]

It is said in the West "When the people fear the government there is tyranny. When the Government fears the people there is liberty." I want to challenge this statement.

When the people fear the Government there is tyranny (nothing wrong here). When the Government fears the people there is ANARCHY! When the government RESPECTS the people there is liberty. When the people resepcts the Government there is STABILITY and when both the Government and the people respect each other there is HARMONY!

[annzzii]

Thanks for explainning, especially to those who have no knowledge of the Tibet history and have been brainwashed by their media, frankly the Western Media! Tell me is ti better to be rich and live a better life or is it better to starve to death and have 'freedom'? Most of the westerners have never experienced poverty so I don't blame them for not thinking in that direction.

[kencyliu]

Lamanism is a religion originated from Buddhism. But it is a heresy. Buddhism emphasizes mercy and equality.

But in old-time Tibet, people were convinced to contribute all they had to the monasteries

in order to have a better NEXT life. Therefore most Tibetan were poor and lived like slaves.

From the vedio taken by western tourists, we saw many lamas involved in the riot, not peaceful demonstration but chopping innocent people with long knives. This reveals the truth of Lamaism.

[ElGrandinquisitor]

The Soviet Union used to have many different ethnic groups. They were called "Conquered Nations".They were always going to be part of the great "Union". Sound familiar? It should.

[kevindatz]

learn some history about dalai lama, he is the head of tibet slave owner, you moron, do some research first.

[holkn]

you are a NAZI

[sauerkreatur]

this video is stupid...do not watch it

[holkn]

just because you are too ignorant to accept the truth doesnt mean you can stop others from doing so!!!!!!

[USN288]

sanerkreatur hotdog,this videro is not stupid tibetan has too much freedom with western media..is Monkey see monkey do,is only a replay of your American "Nigger Riots" 1960-1965..with gangster Rap..this is great,now china will try to out number the USAin builing more jails,just to house the Chinese-Tibetan welfare freeloader niggers..This is Great,with the American Media,which is very bad on chinese youth, so fucking un-human..

[ylfreak]

this is what i meant! the tibetians should be glad to have those minority privileges. no, my friends don't go and beat up people. i think i do know my mother tongue. thanks for the lesson on pinyin. it's Qing Hai (青海)by the way.

[zh1923]

This is the comment on Tibet riot with most convincing argument and ample evidence support. There are too much positive discrimination toward minorities, with respect to family planning, education and social welfare. To Han Chinese, it's hard to believe such treatment is an opression or , genocide. Han Chinese would rather be such "second class citizen" if they can choose their ethnic group.

[lynecz]

he sounds like Indian but his thoughts like Chinese.

[northroom]

to qskylark: you bacons are so justified from your words.

[gkcngk]

lol, happyyu1978 you are so "funny"

[holkn]

how so?

[mosesconfuser]

Man. You need learn a little bit about what is Lama. They are so different from other Buddhisms. Those monks are very brutal and violent. For example even Islam Extremist don't use human parts as sacrifices to their God. But Lamas use human thigh trump(Kangling), skull bowl and Human skins. So rituals involve sex with woman.

[ylfreak]

Don't tell me anything like this!! i am CHINESE!!! i also belong to a MINORITY group like the tibetians!! so don't tell me how they are feeling like in lhasa. i know countless people who have been to tibet. i even have friends there right now!! what about YOU?? have you ever been to china? have you been ever to tibet??? you can even spell the name of the capital correctly. and you really believe in CIA documents? are they true? as true as there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?

[jimyy1985]

Oh? You have friends in Tibet now? Who? The rioters?

You are minority? Really? Why not tell us how much welfare you got from our government? Why not tell us how many special privileges you got in education?

Oh? You are Chinese? Why won't you recognize the Pinyin of 拉萨 'Lasa'.Or you only know the English? I grow up in China. We study Earthquakes in Tibet and Tsinghai. We stay months here setting seismographs with Tibetans and researchers from U.S.

[ggpeter]

This is so interesting that why this guy is so confident with his beliefs without showing any data, facts, but simply his understandings???? This is common to many people here in U.S.A. I really worry about this. They should collect more facts before believing sth!!

[qskylark]

All I can say are:" YOU ARE A BIG LIAR!"

BTW, TERRIBLE ACCENT!

[jimyy1985]

say sth useful

do not just say the others are liar because you can not show any evidence to against them

[ylfreak]

You need evidence?? there are countless videos on this site that have more evidence than you can imagine!!

[boator2008]

Are you liar? You even can not make a story full! Go back to school to learn what is TIBET!

[kidchang]

really? simply prove it! you'd better read some books about tibet,not just listen to your media like an idiot.

[dababa2000]

it's real, why don't you spare a few minutes to search on internet to see what the truth is

[jimyy1985]

Go back to a school ? A school in In U.S.A?

Read books? Why do not read the documents published by U.S. Government about CIA in Tibet?

Have you ever been in Tibet? Or have u ever been to China?

I wish u were in streets of Lasa when the riot happen

[visitbeijing]

I do believe with you, as my wife and I were in the Lhasa last summer, talked with some people living there and were aware of the truth there have been several times small-scope attacking events from time to time even BOMB event before in Lhasa. I will say for sure there won't be the only place and only time of such riot comes across, each government will do the same thing or even stronger and rapider repression over the world.

[flyfishingstore]

Most of those TV, newspaper, radio who lied are from Germany, they lied all the time like Adolf Hitler did, you know what, Germany is the motherland of Adolf Hitler, Germans are 100% pure Nazi monkeys living in the Nazi/Hitler's land, they only need to do one thing - go to hell to kiss Adolf Hitler's ass.

Btw, German monkeys do have sense of humor - the funniest joke that German made is: they want to be the permanent member of UNSC - what a damn good joke :) go to hell, Hitler's son of biatch!

[yohodyiiiiii]

Your oral english is terrible.

Please speak in Chinese a$sh00le.

[Calmobserver]

Listen to this reporter carefully,he said "believe" for 4 times,what if what he believes is not true and he still uses it as "evidence"?In fact,a normal train ticket from Beijing to Lhasa is 389 Chinese yuan,he said it is about 5000 yuan,which is nearly as 13 times as its real one. This shows his ignorance of China,how could he deduce sth useful?Please bear in Mind that DALA LAMA has been partly funded by media as he said, Use comnon sense to judge which side he is object to, Thank you!

[Calmobserver]

To all people fooler by this this reporter,he even donot know the background the Tibet Isuue just saying "I believe",HOWEVER,what you believe is not the fact!!! 5000 yuan ticket from BEIJING to Tibet,that is for first-class air ticket!Not for train. Shut UP,big stupid liar!

[avafeng]

Totally agree with you! This reporter know nothing about Tibet!

I want to ask the resporter, did you ever been to Tibet? Did you ever been to Taiwan? Or do you know Chinese? You can even not read and speak Chinese, so how can you know the real fact of China, and where did you learn these information? You just tell that what you believe instead of the truth!

[jyetiparis]

thank GOD we have internet, youtube, and someone like you, my friend

good job, we need to know the truth,

and i want to see how these mideas want to say...

[TheQiOne]

No way to convince somebody of welldone Colonialism! Cultures as well as individuals contribute to the One World we all share! P.

[hanarmy]

Good work. You can't draw such objective conclusions without actually being there and see, listen, and feel for yourself, honestly.

I don't believe western media cares much of the truth, when it comes to other nations. They only want to serve their own nations' interest in a way that often "coincides" with their goverments' foreign policy. Ever heard of "politically correct"? Shame on you!

[jel868]

it's good analysis. you view seems pertinent enough thank you.

[RobyLeung]

dalai lama is a terrorist and big liar

[pp535]

a profund analysis in most part especially on the deeper cause of the explosive situation--the widening gap between rich and poor. but i think it is still too early to assert that Dalai has nothing to do with the riot.

[b1sII6]

I can see nothing but a black screen...

[Ez233]

A good vedio!!!

It tells the truth from an independent aspect!!

Examples I want to add are:

The "planned parenthood" is mainly aim at Han people in China not the minorities.

When the minorities students have the college entrance exams they would add 10 points or more just because they are minority!!

[hobbes3210]

there is something called trade (for food). the land would be poor anyway.

[urumqilik]

you can not go to someone-elses home and make the host a slave right?If independence is what Tibetans want than why should u have a say on that?and u r trying to justify it? please all chinese people if you want to be real friends whithout gun and resentment than give back the freedom to the people of Tibet and East-Turkistan.please stop trying to pretend there is no problem in handeling of the minorities in china and please search for the truth!!! luv u all

[qinghua007]

We never say there is no problem in handling of minorities in China, like there are such prob in the UK, France, Italy, Spain, Russia, the USA, etc. But why demanding China give "freedom" when UK is still holding N. Irland, etc. Be fair...

[meilong130]

Why don't say this to the United States? The white people came here and occupy the natives' land, killed a lot of them. But all that's already history. Who's these violent Tibetan? a few of the former slave master's descendent's, a bunch of losers, they are not the majority of the Tibetan people in China.

[ugeemei]

Good work. Some good points.

The Dalai Lama had always allowed himself to be used as a pawn by the West to ensure financial assistance without which his operation at Dharmsala would perish. His association with Hollywood Celebs and world leaders were mostly fund -raising campaigns. Of course, we cannot forget his passion for Gucci shoes. I agree that at his age, he probably won't want to rule Tibet again. He and his followers may jump out of the frying pan and into the fire. As the saying goes.

[boluutube]

looool

[siyeclover]

Why lie?

[junchenh]

DALA will never promote violence?

how do you know?

Where is your evidence?????

[vincentspark]

达赖喇嘛 一向奉行的是 非暴力抗议行为。但他现在已经逐渐失去了对流亡政府的控制，所以­我相信西藏的暴力也不是非他所愿。

[facethesea]

basically an honest comment, although I dont think dala lama is as 'holy'as you said. when religion meets politics, even a spiritual leader will be different.

but agree with the description about Tibet exemists...indeed it happens everywhere.

Tibet ought to be a peacefull and beautiful land, may all these riots pass soon!

[kkkeeekkkddssaa]

listen man. you tried to be in balance between two sides, but it makes you no standpoint.

ok, if what you said is really convinced, then we may say your point of view is great. but, at the very first begining.. when you define Dalai Lama.. you made a very big mistake, which shows you know little history about Dalai, and you know nothing abt what he has done.. maybe you should see more from the other language, coz there is very litmited report against Dalai in ENG

[shane2406]

lol the funnest video ever

[tallman1027]

what a f***ing Video! I see nothing!

[hanfranz]

Dalai Lama Orchestrates Terrorism Activities in Chengdu

watch?v=y4lJNHfZXEw&feature=re­lated

[attergauerbowhunter]

God bless Dalai Lama - God bless Tibet!

[merkosun]

boycott the olympics you dumb shit lolol did u write out this shit and edit it 1000 times and then read it out loud while making this video? u hav no idea whats really going on, but keep up the research lol

[S1587915G]

At least here you have some cool-headed reasoning, not mindless jingoism and mutual spitting. It remains a fact that the CCP is a highly repressive regime with no respect for basic values of human decency, though.

A couple corrections:

1. Islam is NOT a religion of peace. The verses of the Koran are full of injunctions to KILL non-Muslims. Check out faithfreedom(dot)org.

2. Sport today has EVERYTHING to do with politics. Why do we bother about which COUNTRY gets how many medals?

[CarolynWang]

You speak some viewpoints of Han people. And part of the truth. I am in strong support of this kind of arguments, but I don't agree with your own views.

[emma060905]

dalai lama is just a shameless terrorist with a coat of religion. he started and directed this riot remotely, then he pretends to know nothing about it. shame on dalai, he killed hundreds of innocent people, he should be sentenced to death because of his crime.

[cheng0302]

agree, we need to see the whole view to find the truth, but western media only report 1 side.

[lustdog]

tibetan pigs

[zhuzhupuppy]

99% Tibetan and the Han Chinese are brothers. the rest 1% is dalai lama's followers who are formerly slaveholders and they want their power back.

[pboidi]

I liked your video, some stuff I really did not know. Interesting.

I did not like your conclusion. First of all, where do you get your evidence that it does not have natural resources? It seems like it is quite the opposite from information I have found. But besides this even if it did not have them...we are talking about 2.6 mln people living in a huge territory rich of potential for tourism! BUT nothing will ever change as long as the economy stays centralised and 100%controlled by the govt

[budefu]

okay, all the development in Tibet is funded BY the government. Prior to the Chinese takeover, Tibet was a backwards nation of herders and slaveowners.

And where did you get the idea the China's economy is "centralized"?

[flning]

do you know when did China take over Tibet?It was almost 1000 years ago!Man.

So you should know where the idea"centralized" come from.

[LeImpressionAligator]

The questions still is, why now, what is the cause of the riots, what or who provoked it...

[swkmail1357]

it is obvious you are a liar!!!

[nordastelo]

A few corrections:

- Dalai Lama does NOT advocate an independent Tibet, bur a larger autonomy for it

- The violent protesters burnt everything from the stores they damaged, they didn't loot them

- The main reason for the riot is not only the gap between the rich and poor, but the large number of migrants of han etnicithy that changed lately the ethnic balance in the area and threatened their traditional religion and culture.

[CarolynWang]

This is more reasonable.

[S1587915G]

nordastelo wrote:

***- Dalai Lama does NOT advocate an independent Tibet, bur a larger autonomy for it***

True. Trouble is, he requested autonomy for a number of other Chinese provinces as well which happened to have large numbers of Tibetans in them, not just Tibet. And this was a no-no for the CCP. Had he been satisfied with Tibet only, things might have been different.

[kencyliu]

All neidhbouring areas around China are inevitably affected by Chinese culture, Japan and Korea are good examples.

Same thing happened in America, are the natives still dressing in feather and living in tepee?

[nordastelo]

Good video! Congratulations. You are very close to the truth, which, obviously, is somewhere in the middle, between the Western and official Chinese opinion! Good work!