Back when? Back where? I referenced multiple times and places in my posts. Have you gone back and actually read everything I posted?If you are talking about the 1890's in the usa or uk, then yes, they did have laws. The laws were just different to todays ones. Do you actually have an argument that takes into consideration the points I made?
@theRealLooney Cat got my tongue? Are you joking? I give you an argument consisting of multiple paragraphs, and all you can do is post a one line response, consisting of an accusation of paedophilia, yet you wanna make out im the one whose tongue has been 'got'? Mahahahaha!
@theRealLooney Cat got my tongue? Are you joking? I give you an argument consisting of multiple paragraphs, and all you can do is post a one line response, consisting of an accusation of paedophilia, yet you wanna make out im the one whose tongue has been 'got'? Mahahahaha!
In later years pressure was brought to raise the age of consent, which it was across the USA... so in this case it was barely over 100 years ago, while again I remind people Muhammed lived 1400yrs ago.. So we have an age of consent in the USA a century ago, that was as low as seven years old.. People need to worry about their ancestors and great grand parents before they worry about Muhammed.. People also need to realise judging ancient history by todays standards is ridiculous..
I would also like to ask, that considering Muhammed was around 1400 years ago, what they make of the following..
1, In the UK in 1875 the age of consent was raised from 12 to 13yrs old.. 2, In the USA during the 1890's most states either had 10 or 12 as ages of consent. A notable exception was Delaware in which the age of consent was set at 7yrs old.. yes, seven. According to a New York Times article, this was still the case by 1895.
There are many other European countries with lower ages of consent than the UK, including but far from limited to.. France, Germany, Italy, Sweden etc
And If they say yes, its fine for Spain to have an age of consent of 13, then by their own logic, they have labelled themselves a paedophile, by many Western legal standards.. moreover they will also show staggering hypocrisy, by accepting the cultural differences with contemporary Spain as legitimate, while refusing to do the same with Arabia, a millenium and a half ago (sigh).
I would like to ask.. whether people think 13 years old is a suitable age for an age of consent? As some people only seem only to the see the world and its history through their own 'contemporary law tinted glasses', then I guess not. In this case, they must then see Spain as a nation of paedophiles, or at best a country that promotes paedophilia through its laws, after all the Spanish age of consent is 13.
Muslims need to stop trying to justify the badly put together 'hadiths' which were written centuries after the Prophet's lifetime, and accept that details of the Messenger's personal life were kept hidden from us.
The Messenger's only duty was to deliver the QURAN to his people. The Quran itself proves that children were not considered mature enough to marry until they were of sound judgement and fully grown. Nowhere is there a hint of child marriages, and the Prophet's wives are women (nisa).
You forgot the best one: Mother Mary married at about 12. And she married a 90 year old man! Check for yourself answering-christianity(dot)com/aisha.htm
If you are Muslim, please stop presenting this lie about Mary as fact.
A Muslim should stand in justice for Allah and bear witness to the Truth, even if it is against himself and his own people. We do not follow our own desire in malice or in retribution.
If I understand this video correctly, it's saying that just because other people in history have done this, it makes it okay for Muhammad to practice pedophilia? Or Pedophilia okay in general?
@BoukephaIus1 And this is because many Muslims do not read the Quran to understand that Muhammad was only the Messenger of Allah's Word.
If you read about the 'hadiths', you will see that just about any wondrous or ugly thing was written about the Prophet long after his death. Islamic scholars claim there is a 'science' to verifying the hadiths when there is actually no historical evidence, and much of it is an attempt to modify the Quran.
@2angeline im actually talking about how the justification of muhammad doing this is because other well known people in history did it. Basically pedophilia is cool just cause other people did.
@BoukephaIus1 I think you missed what he is saying...He is saying if you can call one a pedophile why is not the other called a pedophile. I don't remember his mentioning what is OK and what is not?? And if I am correct Muhammad was prior to all the people he has mentioned so if we evolve as people with time...it's much worse that the same thing was done 1000 years later.
@adamjames43 Actually the others are pedophiles. No one doubted that, but we're pointing out that the prophet is categorized with the other pedos and they support it
@glory2win bro it doesnt even matter, the fact that he had wifes who were above the age of 20, and married some who were even older than him at the time proves he wasnt a pedo anyways.
In different sources Aisha reported her age slightly differently. She kept getting younger with each newer narration. It appears common in old eastern women to make themselves appear much younger than they really are. Here's a list of Aisha's age from her own narrations: a. 36 - Tarikh ibn Asir b. 34 c. 30 d. 26 e. 22 f. 19 - Ibn Abi Shayba g. 16 h. 9 - Bukhari i. 6 - Bilal Philips The oldest historical records give a higher age, and later sources make her younger.
@MoeRocco75 Just because it was "Normal" or common in the past doesn't mean it's ok. Still this is practically admission he was a pedophile. I don't even know why it's called "Was the prophet a pedophile?" when it should probably be called "So what if the prophet was a pedophile?"
@MoeRocco75 Sex with an underagted girl = pedophilia. No way past that. Trying to say it wasn't illegal or something that was common does not justify that action.
So do you think Muhammed should have built a time machine, then visited your time and country, then found out what the age of consent was, and then gone back in time to Arabia, to act on what he had learnt? Because you might not realise it, buts thats what you are saying..
@MoeRocco75 More like he should've been more rational or logical to do that. THen again that's what religion does to you, it takes loic aay. Hey you know they used to sacrifice people right? But it was common back then so that means it's ok right?
You really are messed up. I don't even think that troll was kidding, you have the mentality of a sex offender.
Really? why dont you answer any questions? You can just rant, cant you? A YT ranter is what you are.. Sacrificing people? Whats that got to do with it? The point is those ancient people thought their god wanted them to do this.. so its nothing like sacrificing a person today.. because that belief doesnt exist anymore. And your great grandparents never sacrificed people did they? 100 years ago people were not being sacrificed in the West, were they?
Answer the questions.. like the one about the law in your country, and the one about time machines.. stop ranting and face the argument.. or learn not to respond to peoples arguments, because you aint equipped..
What comments knobhead? You asked a question, a loaded one, but a question nevertheless..you didnt make a statement.. Knobhead to the bottom of the class.. Extra punishment for copying someone elses work.. ;)
@MoeRocco75 If you cannot tell what the statement was in the question you are highly uneducated and probably should go back to the basement child. However, if you ask me what my statement is i'll tell you, with acknowledgement you're too uneducated to know it.
Er.. you aint the sharpest, are you? I already said it was 'a loaded question'.. do you know what that means, yokel boy? If you did you wouldnt have thought your last post worthwhile you twat.. So I'd already covered that base if you were bright enough to see it. Its like asking a stranger, whether they still beat their wife.. Next?
@MoeRocco75 Scuse me sir, but just because there weren't laws back then against pedophilia, it doesn't justify it. There are places in this world where girls 5-10 are used as prostitutes. There aren't laws against it, but does that make it right? No. Not unless you're a sick person which everyone seems to have concluded you are.
@MoeRocco75 Scuse me sir, but just because there weren't laws back then against pedophilia, it doesn't justify it. There are places in this world where girls 5-10 are used as prostitutes. There aren't laws against it, but does that make it right? No. Not unless you're a sick person which everyone seems to have concluded you are.
@MoeRocco75 Scuse me sir, but just because there weren't laws back then against pedophilia, it doesn't justify it. There are places in this world where girls 5-10 are used as prostitutes. There aren't laws against it, but does that make it right? No. Not unless you're a sick person which everyone seems to have concluded you are.
@MoeRocco75 Scuse me sir, but just because there weren't laws back then against pedophilia, it doesn't justify it. There are places in this world where girls 5-10 are used as prostitutes. There aren't laws against it, but does that make it right? No. Not unless you're a sick person which everyone seems to have concluded you are.
There have been detailed research conducted by Islamic scholars regarding this matter. This research is well documented as proof that Aisha was actually married to Prophet Muhammad at the age of 16 and moved in to live together with the Prophet at age 19. If you need the reference, email me at Hazarul_shazly@yahoo.com
In Islam it is forbidden to commit adultery, marry before puberty is reached and marry a woman if she doesn't want to marry you. When a person reaches puberty, he/she wants to have sex so let me ask you which of these is the best
1.become a porn star
2. masturbate
3. get a prostitute
4. Fuck someone and then ditch him/her.(bf/gf)
5. Be in a marital relationship.
Having sex is a need, just like eating, drinking and going to the toilet.
@clevonamerica I can't understand why it's ok to have sex(adultery) at 12 or 13 in countries. The age of consent in Spain is 13. Even in America girls lose virginity at 13. That is adultery and no one condemns that. While on the other hand if a lady decides to marry at 9 it becomes such a big problem. Science today tells us that the hooter the climate of a region the younger puberty is reached and Saudi Arabia is a desert area. Continued in next comment
In Arab tradition it was normal for women to supervise and play with children outside in the desert and the fields. The hadith says she was supervising and playing with a group of girls when she was called to discuss marriage. Then her father sent the proposal to the Prophet (S.A.W).
Listing other pedophiles doesn't excuse a person of being a pedo. A lot of pedo's today have wives or adult women they have relations with and stil indulge in a young girl. So what if they have an older girlfriend and a wife? The moment you engage in sexual conduct with a younger girl you are a pedo. that's how it is
No ideology should be allowed to teach a group to commit human rights' crimes... Spend you time working towards a better world of human right protection and freedom to choose your faith... NOT PROTECTING CRIMINALS - I find this rather distrusting that you have such little regard to child protection...
Again – naming past paedophiles isn’t going to hide the paedophilia crimes of Muhammad. In the 21st Century, most non Islamic/muslim societies have child protection laws in place, this also includes the minimum age for marriages. Even today there are muslims following the islam faith and marrying girls as young as 9/10 years old, and account of them having sexual intercourse with the child as this is commended by muhammad. Why are you defending paedophilia acts?
@ScienceWinsEndOfGod Don't point the finger at us because there will be 3 pointed at you, go speak to your teenagers who are getting protected and dumped, aborted or they are getting raped every few minutes.
Only three, I'd thought pointing out the ills of islam as a sick and in-humane ideology would get a few more figures than just the 3... looks like I have to try harder...
“your teenagers who protected, dumped, aborted, raped”
My teenagers certainly are protected by living in a civilised society like the UK, they both been dumped – but who doesn’t at school... don’t think they have ever been aborted or rejected, or raped. So your point is?
@FATAL12SKILLZ "thinking" is not what the fact says. Statistics say other wise. So let see where you are going with this confused comment. Well, religion isn’t a process of thinking, and those following it are nothing more than sheep (thinking absent). Also you can’t account muslims numbers as a reliable statistic without recalling the fact that ‘Aapostasy’ by muslims is death – so muslims numbers are artificially inflated due to the threat of death penalty to those who leave the faith.
@ScienceWinsEndOfGod Lets stick to the point and don't change the topic, You are pointing at the Muslims and boasting about "child protection laws" and I am pointing at the corruption of the society that we live in. Religion is very much a process of thinking accompanied with a process of action and faith. The point of "apostasy" its a punishment for one who is trying to spread corruption because one who openly professes his unbelief is doing so because of his hate against Islam.
@ScienceWinsEndOfGod Another thing, Muslim numbers don't mean a thing, We are not a religion of quantity we are a religion of quality you can see that from our legacy unfortunately that is not the case today. May Allah rectify the Muslims.
@FATAL12SKILLZ “We are not a religion of quantity we are a religion of quality”
Hahahaha! That is funny as fuck.... so your quality control is rape, beheadings, child abuse (marrying 9 year girls is child abuse) and mass murdering and genocide by orders of your religious leaders... Interesting... We, the people of civilised parts of the world would call that barbaric acts against humanity – but we all know how islam stands on human rights... IT DOESN'T LIKE IT!!!
@ScienceWinsEndOfGod We don't rape, Beheading actually brings done quicker and less painless to the criminal, child abuse? You have to remember the case and the circumstances, especially since she accepted. People like you don't have any sense of reality, girls like Aisha (May Allah be pleased with her) are much more mature, and she hit puberty. mass murdering? Its your government that has killed millions of Muslims these last 15 years, and has there been any cases of genocide among...
@ScienceWinsEndOfGod the early Muslims? only killings of the army. Europe has had the MOST barbaric acts against humanity. How do you know the Human rights are right? You have no set criterion to make these rights absolute they are all subjective in the realm. I can say it is your right that you should be brutally killed like a dog (I don't believe that of course) how would you prove me wrong? You have no standing. The most barbaric people are you people, and your armies and soldiers are a...
@ScienceWinsEndOfGod testimony to that fact.The world has been worst off with the likes of these scum European and Western leaders who only care about money.I, who has studied history, including the history of the west have seen a low in the morals of the west and the society is not even a society anymore nor a community and to top it all off the likes of the people of the west are the most greedy and ungrateful twits on the planet Earth.There has only been a rise of poverty through this century
@ScienceWinsEndOfGod Get out of our country, don't touch our resources and than we'll get out to. Some of us will stay to call you towards the religion with love and peace.
according to your YT channel, that would be 'Canada' - I didn't know the UK had forces in Canada... well learn something new every day... and what's that to do is Islam?
'Some of us will stay to call you towards'
Not really correct english, try again on what you are trying to say - I'm sure it's hard for you, being a moroccan migrant worker in canada... but learning english could get you a better job than washing up in restaurants.
@FATAL12SKILLZ - just making a point that you are not making your comment clear - if you live in canada then you need to make a reference to the country that has the invasion force... being a moroccan migrant worker in canada means you can use "my country" in regards to canada or morocco... maybe you would like to rephrase your comment...
@FATAL12SKILLZ so what makes you think she was nine? where does it say she was nine straight out?! do tell me in my Qur'2an where it says and not some stuff off the internet.
@anitamata29 some stuff on the internet? its straight from sahih bukhari. The Quran doesn't even speak about most of the prominent sahaba what makes you think it will speak about knowledge that doesn't benefit such as the age of a person.
THE AGE OF AISHA IS ONLY MENTIONED IN THE HADITH. THE HADITH (ORAL TRADITIONS ABOUT PROPHET MUHAMMED) WERE RECORDED 200YRS AFTER THE DEATH OF PROPHET MUHAMMED. THE RECORDERS OF THESE HADITH FOUND A MILLION HADITH IN CIRCULATION AND ONLY 6000 WERE CONSIDERED WORTHY OF RECORDING AS THE REST WERE OUTRIGHT FABRICATIONS. SO WHAT IF THE HADITH WERE WRONG ABOUT AISHA'S AGE? SHALL WE DENIGRATE A MAN WHO SPENT HIS LIFE FIGHTING THE CRIMINAL ELITE OF ARABIA TO SECURE THE RIGHTS OF ALL PEOPLE..
@MrHamza74 Cut your nonsense, we have hadith 100 years after the prophet muhammad peace be upon him, the same age as our earliest Qurans, the difference is that 100 years after the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him there were still companions alive, Learn some history Imam Zuhri the student of the companions and the imam at the time of Umar ibn Abdul Aziz was one of the first hadith collectors than there is Imam Maliks Collection who was the student of Anas ibn Malik May Allah be pleasedwithhim
@MrHamza74 There is no way you can know the history of your messenger without the hadith, because the Seera records and their hadith are weaker than the hadith of bukhari. the million hadith circulation is false and here is a reply to that accusation
@servantforAllah What is your point? Difference between those examples and Muhammed is that M. was supposed to be in direct contact with our supreme creator.. Now the deed of fucking a 9 year old wasn't any less disgusting 1400 years ago.. The world was just less developed.. Which you will see back in a lot of things other the pedo acts.. However, for the one who should have brought us eternal rules from the one perfect being who created us, you can expect that he would have known...
@TTFLS You have to remember, that girls matured faster because of the age expectancy (40-60) and they were much more mature, they did house work. Her being young was also good for the religion because when she was young she would ask the most questions, most hadith narrated are from Aisha the mother of the believers. We respect her with utmost respect and we love her, we consider her our mother of Faith which is stronger than our mothers of blood and she is considered the first women scholar
From a Christian perspective: Joseph married the Virgin mary when he was 90 years old and she was 12 years old .From a scientific perspective : most girls start their Sexual maturity in age 9. and girl who live in hot Countries Sexual maturity faster than the girls who live in cold Countries. From an Islamic perspective : aisha Was engaged to some one else before prophet muhammad that means that she was able to marry that time. and if that was worng the unbelievers of Quraish criticize muhammed
Google: (The Crazy-Quilt of Our Age of Consent Laws)
In the USA last century, the age of consent was 10 years old. California was the first state to change the age of consent to 14, which it did in 1889. After California, other US states joined in and raised the age of consent too.
@fazryu Every culture, every society on Earth 1400 years ago and earlier practiced young marriages. Remember, we did not have great medical science back then. People did not live for very long. When a female bled, it was a sign that she was turning into an adult, ready to breed. If a female in that time frame was not married before 18, she was usually looked down upon. Girls in the United States were married off at a very young age when America first became a nation.
It depends on who you ask, besides the moral codes today, are different than morals in the past. Why just 100 years ago, America refused to give women the right to vote, 200 years ago in America, women were burned on the stake for so called witch craft, that isn't a long time. Now imagine the morals from 1400 years ago, they would have been completely different than they are today
@FreedomResistance Rape? Like those losers on the street? Do you even know what marriage is? He takes responsibility for her. Now, which culture allow sex before marriage? Murder - means to kill for profit or advantage. Do you have any Idea that the Christians and Jew tried to kill him and they bully Muslims because they pray in front of Kaaba. Self defense is not murder. And wth do you mean by etc etc. You are brainwashed!
1) young brides are common in semitic cultures. According to traditional christian sources, Mary was 12 when she became pregnant.
2) if Muhamemd (SAW) was a paedophile, why did he wait 3 years from his engagement to Aisha to consumation of that marriage when, according to the traditions of his day, such a wait was unnecessary?
3) Aisha was engaged-to-be-married to an older man before she met the Prophet (SAW). that engagement broke when Aisha's father became a muslim.
Also, every country has their own rules and laws. In England, today, the consent age for marriage is 16. However, in Saudi and many other middle eastern countries, it is after puberty. And yes, some girls do reach puberty at 9 years old. Just wanted to add that to this response as well.
Whether you like it or not - Muhammad (S) was the greatest man that ever lived. He married Ayesha at 9 years old. The entire world celebrated their marriage. And the world still loves Muhammad (S). So, BOO YAH!
Salami muh muHOMOmed Habarra, Jabara, zabbara. Dis poser he think he funny. HAHAHAHA he would be pimping his 9 year old daughter outside of mosque if he was comedian cuz he could not survive. Hey clitamerica let me have yor daughter 2 marrry so I can bang her ass to emulate PROFIT muHOMOmed
@101vivalaRaza: Dis balding poser he need more testaserone, yes. He need rogaine or he need to glue me pubic hairs on his head so no more need to wear toupee, okay. Dis poser he ignorent but he good muSlime. He breed his own kid so he can bang his daughter in da ass to emulate PROFIT mu-ham-head. Alahu Porkbar!
iz true muHOMOmed, shit be upon him, wuz first INTERNATIONAL PEDOPHILE. I is muzlim cleric, I Knows more than this impostar. Mo's cawk smelled like 9 year old booty hole.
moHOMOmmed was a pedophile fuker who liked to sodomise deformed moslem lullas...his fabricated stories are bullshit..he is just a war monger ...why don't people worship Great Alexander?he is better
I am ghostsodomy. I live to tear up the arseholes of ghosts and ghost chasers. I have torn up the ghostly arseholes of many people. I have blown my spunk in the ghostly arseholes of dead communists, Nazis, jihadists, famous celebrities, you name it. However, there is a line I do draw. I would have to pass on the chance to pound the ghostly arsehole of a dead girl who is the same age as Aisha when Muhammad screwed her. Boo!
@ghostsodomy2012 : No worry me friend to sodomize little girl. Dis good MUSlime he breed his own kid. He bang his own pre-teen daughter up da ass when he try to emulate da PROFIT muHOMOmed, piss be upon him. His cawk smell like his daughter's preteen booty whole.
I is muzlim cleric. I know kuran. I have daughter preteen daughter also. I give her to anoder cleric friend to phuk in ass. Alahu Porkbar!!
Mohammad (saw)had a wife name ayesha (ra) she was 6 when she got married to Mohammad(saw). he had no consummation of marrage with her until she was 9 years old. many people of that time had young wifes and did not treat them correctly . Mohammad(saw) a prophet of ALLAH(swa)was sent as a final messanger to correct the stupid ignorant people pagans jews
christans etc.... those who understood of him followed him. of all the things he taught those people was this that you are asking of.which is his marrige to ayesha (ra).if you look at history and do some reserch you will come to know that europeans had young wifes and they treated them horribly also chineese history too. the ignorant people of those days cared less and less. now to explain this to you who is so ignorant, when is a woman a woman, the answer is when she has the ability
to reproduce ie have children. when her menstruating cycle starts she is able to concieve. some women have a late cycle other have early clcles. ayesha (ra) her clcle at 9 years of age. people of that time wanted children preferable boys since God had daughters someone had to have boys am i right or wrong?<---(making fun of pagans as they thought God would have daughters and they can have boys.ie better than God).however pagans didnt know of this due to attempt and successes of
murder of their prophets at thier proper time; not just Jesue(as) but other prophets who try to eduicate the ignorant. ;Mohammsd(saw) is the example that the jews and christans are waiting for but over 2000 years no spirt came to them. read matthew 10;23. jesus(as)never come: "but when they persecute you in this city, flee ye unto another, for VERILY I say unto you , ye shall NOT HAVE GONE over the cities of israel till the SON OF MAN(as referring to himsf) BE COME" the disciples
of Jesus(as) fled and they fled and have now perished for 2000 yrs. and no soghn of jesus(as) comming back as a prophet.This was the start one can say for men to have wifes not girlfriends or concubines. Mohammd (saw) set precedents in this.we as muslims are to get married not commit fornication. The definition of a pedophile is an adult who is sexually attracted to children
and molests them with out any marrage contract or legal binding.pedopheliacs are in the bible not in quran.if you read about in bible where god say kill men women children even donkey and cows except those who are virgins females and save some for him like 3200 or some number.in the bible numbers 31;17-18 also verse 35 and 40. In those times people married young girls for a reason not just for pleasures. those people did not have an easy life style. So therefore a man married
for a future use (man would look ahead in life not just for here today ,gone tomorrow attitude as we have now).for example man would work on a farm or go out trading for some days and return tired.there were no massaging chairs, caterers, cars to drive, so the young wife would relax him by massaging his feet, cook for him, and also do some of the work which the man is too tired to do at that time (tan hides, smoke some animals in smoke houses, dry meats etc... . as Mohammad (saw) was a
business man himself(he did not marry her at that time of his life anyways) he too would come home tired. women of those days had to be strong ;and young. unlike today they smoke use drugs wont cook wont even clean her house with appliances and utenciles which make it even more easy for her.they only try to clean them selfs so they can look good but not be truly clean only for show. In that scocity people married young girls because it was a custom and a practice this was not looked down upon.
In todays life we go for only what other want of us. we please others not for our own selfs just for show. So today in the usa in most states you have to be 18 to go to war 18 to smoke but have to be 21 to drink alcohol. Georga law for marrage is 16 in Newyork it its 18 why is that. in italy young childern as old as 11 drinking wine and not in usa. coluld it be difference of socity demographics. For job under the age kids; they work in Mcdonalds, burger king,
etc... at age of 16 and up for all the work they do they get minimum wage. while 18 and up its factory, warehouse, ship, docks etc... make just a bit more money. This is to say that they put them in age groups and not by intelegence or brawn.todays people are turning in to mush. due to apperance and he say she say attitude. The examplery life of our prophet Mohammad(saw) is the only way to have freedom, good moral values, personal hygiene
etc..... for those who dont know look agian and compare you self helath wise, religion, self awarness, modesty, commitment, intelegence, emotionlay etc...
There are plenty of backwardness in the laws of the U.S., England and other western countries. Check them out for your self and compare it with Islam. this information is just scratching the surface.
a funny thing i herd on the news prisoners cant look at female officers or nurses they have to tilt there heads down and not look at them hahahahah muslims do this all the time or as much as posssible because Mohammad (saw) said for us not to. so non muslims know what is right but wont admit to it. another warden lets the prisoners work in a society in a controled atmosphere and pays them just as muslims did when they had prisoners .
ARAB nabi - MOHD(SAW?) if he had sex with 9 year old kid then he is Pedophile. Also dont quote other pedophiles equating to Mohd(SAW?) as MOHD IS the only and last NABI messenger.
Yusuf Ali: O ye who believe! When you marry believing women,and then divorce them before you have touch them,then there is no period of IDDAT have you to count in respect of them:so give them a present.And set them free in ahandsome manner
From the verse above it is understood that Iddah (stipulated waiting period) is required if sexual contact has occurred within the marriage. If a woman is not touched by her husband, she should not have to observe any waiting period at all
After the mention of women who have not had their marriage consummated, the Quran goes further - discussing the women who need to observe the 'iddah, and the span of time required. We see in Quran 65.4:
واللائي يئسن من المحيض من نسائكم ان ارتبتم فعدتهن ثلاثة اشهر واللائي لم يحضن واولات الاحمال اجلهن ان يضعن حملهن ومن يتق الله يجعل له من امره يسرا
Transliteration: Waalla-ee ya-isna mina almaheedi min nisa-ikum ini irtabtum faAAiddatuhunna thalathatu ashhurin waalla-ee lam yahidna waolatu al-ahmali ajaluhunna an yadaAAna hamlahunna waman yattaqi Allaha yajAAal lahu min amrihi yusran
Yusuf Ali: Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the prescribed period, if ye have any doubts, is three months, and for those who have no courses (it is the same):
(4) for those who carry (life within their wombs), their period is until they deliver their burdens: and for those who fear Allah, He will make their path easy.
Qur'an 65:4
Here the 'Iddah is prescribed to three categories of women:
First the phrase: “Yaisna min al-maheedhi” which means “those women who are desperate of menses” is an indication to women who reached the stage of menstruation but do not menstruate and of those who reached menopause.
Desperate of menses underlines that it concerns women who though reached the age, fail to menstruate too. Their 'Iddah period is three months.
Next comes, “Wallaee Lam yahidhna” which means “those who have not menstruated yet” This group of females are pre-pubescent girls who have not yet menstruated. Here the 'Iddah prescribed for them is equal to the previous group of women (ie. three months).
Lastly, the women who are pregnant - their prescribed 'iddah is until they have given birth.
Do not say about what your tongues describe falsely, “This is lawful and that is unlawful” so that you may forge the lie upon Allah. Surely, those who forge a lie upon Allah do not prosper.
Quran [6:115]
The Word of your Lord is perfect in truth and justice. None is there to change His words, and He is All-Hearing, All-Knowing.
Oh my...that user Athiestx..something.. his account is suspeneded ? :O oooh... I hope he gets my msgs...
And Joe..I respect you for what you are doing...I see that you have the strength to help eradicate the misunderstandings about Muslims & Islam...If you think you can continue with this, please dont stop.. :)
Oh my...that user Athiestx..something.. his account is suspeneded ? :O oooh... I hope he gets my msgs...
And Joe..I respect you for what you are doing...I see that you have the strength to help eradicate the misunderstandings about Muslims & Islam...If you think you can continue with this, please dont stop.. :)
لا حول ولاقوة إلا بالله
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@Unblacken
Back when? Back where? I referenced multiple times and places in my posts. Have you gone back and actually read everything I posted?If you are talking about the 1890's in the usa or uk, then yes, they did have laws. The laws were just different to todays ones. Do you actually have an argument that takes into consideration the points I made?
MoeRocco75 3 weeks ago
@MoeRocco75 My argument is that pedophilia is wrong. No matter who you are and no matter when you lived. . Stop justifying it kid
UnbIacken 3 weeks ago
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@theRealLooney Cat got my tongue? Are you joking? I give you an argument consisting of multiple paragraphs, and all you can do is post a one line response, consisting of an accusation of paedophilia, yet you wanna make out im the one whose tongue has been 'got'? Mahahahaha!
MoeRocco75 3 weeks ago
@theRealLooney Cat got my tongue? Are you joking? I give you an argument consisting of multiple paragraphs, and all you can do is post a one line response, consisting of an accusation of paedophilia, yet you wanna make out im the one whose tongue has been 'got'? Mahahahaha!
MoeRocco75 3 weeks ago
@MoeRocco75 Just cause you there were no laws back then, that doesn't make it right. You're screwed up to justify this man.
TheReaITooney 3 weeks ago
Does this guy know how much of an idiot he actually looks? What a dick.
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i was looking at his beard .. that s look like its painted not .real one .lol
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You bitches have been slapped down, one after the other.. you should learn from this.. you dickheads..
MoeRocco75 1 month ago
"..you probably own your own toolbelt.." HAHAHAHAHA Classic!
MoeRocco75 1 month ago
Let it be known MoeRocco75 is a registered sex offender.
GrilIedMonkeyFat 1 month ago 14
@GrilIedMonkeyFat
Yeah whatever. If you could refute my points, I would think you were much cleverer..
MoeRocco75 1 month ago
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In later years pressure was brought to raise the age of consent, which it was across the USA... so in this case it was barely over 100 years ago, while again I remind people Muhammed lived 1400yrs ago.. So we have an age of consent in the USA a century ago, that was as low as seven years old.. People need to worry about their ancestors and great grand parents before they worry about Muhammed.. People also need to realise judging ancient history by todays standards is ridiculous..
MoeRocco75 1 month ago
I would also like to ask, that considering Muhammed was around 1400 years ago, what they make of the following..
1, In the UK in 1875 the age of consent was raised from 12 to 13yrs old.. 2, In the USA during the 1890's most states either had 10 or 12 as ages of consent. A notable exception was Delaware in which the age of consent was set at 7yrs old.. yes, seven. According to a New York Times article, this was still the case by 1895.
MoeRocco75 1 month ago
There are many other European countries with lower ages of consent than the UK, including but far from limited to.. France, Germany, Italy, Sweden etc
MoeRocco75 1 month ago
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And If they say yes, its fine for Spain to have an age of consent of 13, then by their own logic, they have labelled themselves a paedophile, by many Western legal standards.. moreover they will also show staggering hypocrisy, by accepting the cultural differences with contemporary Spain as legitimate, while refusing to do the same with Arabia, a millenium and a half ago (sigh).
MoeRocco75 1 month ago
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I would like to ask.. whether people think 13 years old is a suitable age for an age of consent? As some people only seem only to the see the world and its history through their own 'contemporary law tinted glasses', then I guess not. In this case, they must then see Spain as a nation of paedophiles, or at best a country that promotes paedophilia through its laws, after all the Spanish age of consent is 13.
MoeRocco75 1 month ago
Muslims need to stop trying to justify the badly put together 'hadiths' which were written centuries after the Prophet's lifetime, and accept that details of the Messenger's personal life were kept hidden from us.
The Messenger's only duty was to deliver the QURAN to his people. The Quran itself proves that children were not considered mature enough to marry until they were of sound judgement and fully grown. Nowhere is there a hint of child marriages, and the Prophet's wives are women (nisa).
2angeline 1 month ago
You forgot the best one: Mother Mary married at about 12. And she married a 90 year old man! Check for yourself answering-christianity(dot)com/aisha.htm
skiesthelimit9 2 months ago
@skiesthelimit9
If you are Muslim, please stop presenting this lie about Mary as fact.
A Muslim should stand in justice for Allah and bear witness to the Truth, even if it is against himself and his own people. We do not follow our own desire in malice or in retribution.
Peace.
2angeline 1 month ago
hahhahah very true very true
ahok123 2 months ago
very unusuall humor for an american .:) you should have a own comedy show. you would have success.
nice football joke :)
ahok123 2 months ago
I want the background music and outro music
haIashet 2 months ago
If I understand this video correctly, it's saying that just because other people in history have done this, it makes it okay for Muhammad to practice pedophilia? Or Pedophilia okay in general?
BoukephaIus1 2 months ago 12
@BoukephaIus1 And this is because many Muslims do not read the Quran to understand that Muhammad was only the Messenger of Allah's Word.
If you read about the 'hadiths', you will see that just about any wondrous or ugly thing was written about the Prophet long after his death. Islamic scholars claim there is a 'science' to verifying the hadiths when there is actually no historical evidence, and much of it is an attempt to modify the Quran.
2angeline 1 month ago
@2angeline im actually talking about how the justification of muhammad doing this is because other well known people in history did it. Basically pedophilia is cool just cause other people did.
BoukephaIus1 1 month ago
@BoukephaIus1 Yes, I agree with you completely. It's no justification at all.
2angeline 1 month ago
@BoukephaIus1 I think you missed what he is saying...He is saying if you can call one a pedophile why is not the other called a pedophile. I don't remember his mentioning what is OK and what is not?? And if I am correct Muhammad was prior to all the people he has mentioned so if we evolve as people with time...it's much worse that the same thing was done 1000 years later.
adamjames43 2 weeks ago
@adamjames43 Actually the others are pedophiles. No one doubted that, but we're pointing out that the prophet is categorized with the other pedos and they support it
BoukephaIus1 1 week ago
the unibrow is pretty funny
lambchopxoxo 3 months ago
in the Islamic book shes 19, in the radical book shes 9.
but the haters choose to mention the age 9 to try and the prophet a negative image.
90% of muslims know that the prophet married aisha when she was 19.
glory2win 3 months ago
@glory2win bro it doesnt even matter, the fact that he had wifes who were above the age of 20, and married some who were even older than him at the time proves he wasnt a pedo anyways.
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codemastersden 4 months ago 16
@codemastersden the guy who made this video just said she was 9 and said it's ok because other people did it
BoukephaIus1 1 month ago
@BoukephaIus1
No,.. hes saying it was acceptable as normal in the past.. thats why it was common.. hes not saying just because someone else does it its ok..
MoeRocco75 1 month ago
@MoeRocco75 Just because it was "Normal" or common in the past doesn't mean it's ok. Still this is practically admission he was a pedophile. I don't even know why it's called "Was the prophet a pedophile?" when it should probably be called "So what if the prophet was a pedophile?"
BoukephaIus1 1 month ago
@BoukephaIus1
No thats a moronic thing to say because paedophilia, as it exists today didnt exist then..
MoeRocco75 1 month ago
@MoeRocco75 Sex with an underagted girl = pedophilia. No way past that. Trying to say it wasn't illegal or something that was common does not justify that action.
BoukephaIus1 1 month ago
@BoukephaIus1
Thats such a dumb answer Im sorry.. You think you can answer all my points with an equation?
MoeRocco75 1 month ago
@BoukephaIus1
Explain what you mean by an under-age girl? You mean under-aged according to your country's law? Whats the age of consent in your country?
MoeRocco75 1 month ago
@BoukephaIus1
So do you think Muhammed should have built a time machine, then visited your time and country, then found out what the age of consent was, and then gone back in time to Arabia, to act on what he had learnt? Because you might not realise it, buts thats what you are saying..
MoeRocco75 1 month ago
@MoeRocco75 It's not my fault you're a sex offender and had to tell everyone in your neighborhood that.
GrilIedMonkeyFat 1 month ago
@GrilIedMonkeyFat
HAHA perhaps when you grow up, then you might actually come to YT comments with an ACTUAL argument.. Till then, happy trolling..
MoeRocco75 1 month ago
@MoeRocco75 More like he should've been more rational or logical to do that. THen again that's what religion does to you, it takes loic aay. Hey you know they used to sacrifice people right? But it was common back then so that means it's ok right?
You really are messed up. I don't even think that troll was kidding, you have the mentality of a sex offender.
BoukephaIus1 1 month ago
@BoukephaIus1
Really? why dont you answer any questions? You can just rant, cant you? A YT ranter is what you are.. Sacrificing people? Whats that got to do with it? The point is those ancient people thought their god wanted them to do this.. so its nothing like sacrificing a person today.. because that belief doesnt exist anymore. And your great grandparents never sacrificed people did they? 100 years ago people were not being sacrificed in the West, were they?
MoeRocco75 1 month ago
@BoukephaIus1
Answer the questions.. like the one about the law in your country, and the one about time machines.. stop ranting and face the argument.. or learn not to respond to peoples arguments, because you aint equipped..
MoeRocco75 1 month ago
@MoeRocco75 haha you're a sex offender
GrilIedMonkeyFat 1 month ago
@MoeRocco75 Explain why you think pedophilia is okay back then and now
TheReaITooney 1 month ago
@TheReaITooney
You the cavalry? yawn..
MoeRocco75 1 month ago
@TheReaITooney
Another 'toolbag owner' I see..
MoeRocco75 1 month ago
@MoeRocco75 Next time try to refute my comments, otherwise you might seem cleverer.
TheReaITooney 1 month ago
@TheReaITooney
What comments knobhead? You asked a question, a loaded one, but a question nevertheless..you didnt make a statement.. Knobhead to the bottom of the class.. Extra punishment for copying someone elses work.. ;)
MoeRocco75 1 month ago
@MoeRocco75 If you cannot tell what the statement was in the question you are highly uneducated and probably should go back to the basement child. However, if you ask me what my statement is i'll tell you, with acknowledgement you're too uneducated to know it.
TheReaITooney 1 month ago
@TheReaITooney
Er.. you aint the sharpest, are you? I already said it was 'a loaded question'.. do you know what that means, yokel boy? If you did you wouldnt have thought your last post worthwhile you twat.. So I'd already covered that base if you were bright enough to see it. Its like asking a stranger, whether they still beat their wife.. Next?
MoeRocco75 1 month ago
@MoeRocco75 Errr, before you say someone isn't the sharpest tool, use proper punctuation.
It will make you look more credible. No wonder I'm picking on you ;)
TheReaITooney 1 month ago
Youre pissed. I understand.. :)
MoeRocco75 1 month ago
@MoeRocco75 You're so pissed, you can't even use proper punctuation. You mad bro?
TheReaITooney 1 month ago
@MoeRocco75 What's wrong my brain damaged friend?
TheReaITooney 1 month ago
@TheReaITooney
Unresolved emotion have you?
MoeRocco75 1 month ago
@MoeRocco75 Why is it you can't justify your pedophilia?
BoukephaIus1 4 weeks ago
@MoeRocco75 No argument? Cat got your tongue?
TheReaITooney 4 weeks ago
@MoeRocco75 Scuse me sir, but just because there weren't laws back then against pedophilia, it doesn't justify it. There are places in this world where girls 5-10 are used as prostitutes. There aren't laws against it, but does that make it right? No. Not unless you're a sick person which everyone seems to have concluded you are.
UnbIacken 4 weeks ago
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@MoeRocco75 Scuse me sir, but just because there weren't laws back then against pedophilia, it doesn't justify it. There are places in this world where girls 5-10 are used as prostitutes. There aren't laws against it, but does that make it right? No. Not unless you're a sick person which everyone seems to have concluded you are.
UnbIacken 4 weeks ago
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@MoeRocco75 Scuse me sir, but just because there weren't laws back then against pedophilia, it doesn't justify it. There are places in this world where girls 5-10 are used as prostitutes. There aren't laws against it, but does that make it right? No. Not unless you're a sick person which everyone seems to have concluded you are.
UnbIacken 4 weeks ago
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@MoeRocco75 Scuse me sir, but just because there weren't laws back then against pedophilia, it doesn't justify it. There are places in this world where girls 5-10 are used as prostitutes. There aren't laws against it, but does that make it right? No. Not unless you're a sick person which everyone seems to have concluded you are.
UnbIacken 4 weeks ago
@BoukephaIus1
Not other people.. it was normal and acceopted.. its not pointing fingers at individuals.. silly
MoeRocco75 1 month ago
There have been detailed research conducted by Islamic scholars regarding this matter. This research is well documented as proof that Aisha was actually married to Prophet Muhammad at the age of 16 and moved in to live together with the Prophet at age 19. If you need the reference, email me at Hazarul_shazly@yahoo.com
MrHazarulshazly 5 months ago
@clevonamerica Previous comment continued
In Islam it is forbidden to commit adultery, marry before puberty is reached and marry a woman if she doesn't want to marry you. When a person reaches puberty, he/she wants to have sex so let me ask you which of these is the best
1.become a porn star
2. masturbate
3. get a prostitute
4. Fuck someone and then ditch him/her.(bf/gf)
5. Be in a marital relationship.
Having sex is a need, just like eating, drinking and going to the toilet.
lazimammoth 5 months ago
@clevonamerica I can't understand why it's ok to have sex(adultery) at 12 or 13 in countries. The age of consent in Spain is 13. Even in America girls lose virginity at 13. That is adultery and no one condemns that. While on the other hand if a lady decides to marry at 9 it becomes such a big problem. Science today tells us that the hooter the climate of a region the younger puberty is reached and Saudi Arabia is a desert area. Continued in next comment
lazimammoth 5 months ago
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they're pedophile too ,hadiths say that she was playing with here toys when the prophet bang here
idriss0007 5 months ago
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@idriss0007
In Arab tradition it was normal for women to supervise and play with children outside in the desert and the fields. The hadith says she was supervising and playing with a group of girls when she was called to discuss marriage. Then her father sent the proposal to the Prophet (S.A.W).
codemastersden 3 months ago 11
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@codemastersden The HADITH is false my friend, i can prove it to you, please its for your own good. Im not lying to you.
pocketmonsterfreak 2 months ago
Listing other pedophiles doesn't excuse a person of being a pedo. A lot of pedo's today have wives or adult women they have relations with and stil indulge in a young girl. So what if they have an older girlfriend and a wife? The moment you engage in sexual conduct with a younger girl you are a pedo. that's how it is
ktlhewsd 7 months ago
It seems you are defending Muslims, i appreciate that.
FATAL12SKILLZ 7 months ago
...cont...
No ideology should be allowed to teach a group to commit human rights' crimes... Spend you time working towards a better world of human right protection and freedom to choose your faith... NOT PROTECTING CRIMINALS - I find this rather distrusting that you have such little regard to child protection...
ScienceWinsEndOfGod 8 months ago
Again – naming past paedophiles isn’t going to hide the paedophilia crimes of Muhammad. In the 21st Century, most non Islamic/muslim societies have child protection laws in place, this also includes the minimum age for marriages. Even today there are muslims following the islam faith and marrying girls as young as 9/10 years old, and account of them having sexual intercourse with the child as this is commended by muhammad. Why are you defending paedophilia acts?
ScienceWinsEndOfGod 8 months ago
@ScienceWinsEndOfGod Don't point the finger at us because there will be 3 pointed at you, go speak to your teenagers who are getting protected and dumped, aborted or they are getting raped every few minutes.
FATAL12SKILLZ 7 months ago
@FATAL12SKILLZ ‘.. will be 3 pointed at you’
Only three, I'd thought pointing out the ills of islam as a sick and in-humane ideology would get a few more figures than just the 3... looks like I have to try harder...
“your teenagers who protected, dumped, aborted, raped”
My teenagers certainly are protected by living in a civilised society like the UK, they both been dumped – but who doesn’t at school... don’t think they have ever been aborted or rejected, or raped. So your point is?
ScienceWinsEndOfGod 7 months ago
@ScienceWinsEndOfGod "thinking" is not what the fact says. Statistics say other wise.
FATAL12SKILLZ 7 months ago
@FATAL12SKILLZ "thinking" is not what the fact says. Statistics say other wise. So let see where you are going with this confused comment. Well, religion isn’t a process of thinking, and those following it are nothing more than sheep (thinking absent). Also you can’t account muslims numbers as a reliable statistic without recalling the fact that ‘Aapostasy’ by muslims is death – so muslims numbers are artificially inflated due to the threat of death penalty to those who leave the faith.
ScienceWinsEndOfGod 7 months ago
@ScienceWinsEndOfGod Lets stick to the point and don't change the topic, You are pointing at the Muslims and boasting about "child protection laws" and I am pointing at the corruption of the society that we live in. Religion is very much a process of thinking accompanied with a process of action and faith. The point of "apostasy" its a punishment for one who is trying to spread corruption because one who openly professes his unbelief is doing so because of his hate against Islam.
FATAL12SKILLZ 7 months ago
@ScienceWinsEndOfGod Another thing, Muslim numbers don't mean a thing, We are not a religion of quantity we are a religion of quality you can see that from our legacy unfortunately that is not the case today. May Allah rectify the Muslims.
FATAL12SKILLZ 7 months ago
@FATAL12SKILLZ “We are not a religion of quantity we are a religion of quality”
Hahahaha! That is funny as fuck.... so your quality control is rape, beheadings, child abuse (marrying 9 year girls is child abuse) and mass murdering and genocide by orders of your religious leaders... Interesting... We, the people of civilised parts of the world would call that barbaric acts against humanity – but we all know how islam stands on human rights... IT DOESN'T LIKE IT!!!
ScienceWinsEndOfGod 7 months ago
@ScienceWinsEndOfGod We don't rape, Beheading actually brings done quicker and less painless to the criminal, child abuse? You have to remember the case and the circumstances, especially since she accepted. People like you don't have any sense of reality, girls like Aisha (May Allah be pleased with her) are much more mature, and she hit puberty. mass murdering? Its your government that has killed millions of Muslims these last 15 years, and has there been any cases of genocide among...
FATAL12SKILLZ 7 months ago
@ScienceWinsEndOfGod the early Muslims? only killings of the army. Europe has had the MOST barbaric acts against humanity. How do you know the Human rights are right? You have no set criterion to make these rights absolute they are all subjective in the realm. I can say it is your right that you should be brutally killed like a dog (I don't believe that of course) how would you prove me wrong? You have no standing. The most barbaric people are you people, and your armies and soldiers are a...
FATAL12SKILLZ 7 months ago
@ScienceWinsEndOfGod testimony to that fact.The world has been worst off with the likes of these scum European and Western leaders who only care about money.I, who has studied history, including the history of the west have seen a low in the morals of the west and the society is not even a society anymore nor a community and to top it all off the likes of the people of the west are the most greedy and ungrateful twits on the planet Earth.There has only been a rise of poverty through this century
FATAL12SKILLZ 7 months ago
@ScienceWinsEndOfGod Get out of our country, don't touch our resources and than we'll get out to. Some of us will stay to call you towards the religion with love and peace.
FATAL12SKILLZ 7 months ago
@FATAL12SKILLZ "Get out of our country"
according to your YT channel, that would be 'Canada' - I didn't know the UK had forces in Canada... well learn something new every day... and what's that to do is Islam?
'Some of us will stay to call you towards'
Not really correct english, try again on what you are trying to say - I'm sure it's hard for you, being a moroccan migrant worker in canada... but learning english could get you a better job than washing up in restaurants.
ScienceWinsEndOfGod 7 months ago
@ScienceWinsEndOfGod Don't play dumb.
FATAL12SKILLZ 7 months ago
@FATAL12SKILLZ - just making a point that you are not making your comment clear - if you live in canada then you need to make a reference to the country that has the invasion force... being a moroccan migrant worker in canada means you can use "my country" in regards to canada or morocco... maybe you would like to rephrase your comment...
ScienceWinsEndOfGod 7 months ago
O my gosh....she wasn't a kid...she was 17 or 18...its proven...idk why people think she was nine...
anitamata29 8 months ago
@anitamata29 its not proven.
FATAL12SKILLZ 7 months ago
@FATAL12SKILLZ so what makes you think she was nine? where does it say she was nine straight out?! do tell me in my Qur'2an where it says and not some stuff off the internet.
anitamata29 7 months ago
@anitamata29 some stuff on the internet? its straight from sahih bukhari. The Quran doesn't even speak about most of the prominent sahaba what makes you think it will speak about knowledge that doesn't benefit such as the age of a person.
FATAL12SKILLZ 7 months ago
THE AGE OF AISHA IS ONLY MENTIONED IN THE HADITH. THE HADITH (ORAL TRADITIONS ABOUT PROPHET MUHAMMED) WERE RECORDED 200YRS AFTER THE DEATH OF PROPHET MUHAMMED. THE RECORDERS OF THESE HADITH FOUND A MILLION HADITH IN CIRCULATION AND ONLY 6000 WERE CONSIDERED WORTHY OF RECORDING AS THE REST WERE OUTRIGHT FABRICATIONS. SO WHAT IF THE HADITH WERE WRONG ABOUT AISHA'S AGE? SHALL WE DENIGRATE A MAN WHO SPENT HIS LIFE FIGHTING THE CRIMINAL ELITE OF ARABIA TO SECURE THE RIGHTS OF ALL PEOPLE..
MrHamza74 9 months ago
@MrHamza74 Cut your nonsense, we have hadith 100 years after the prophet muhammad peace be upon him, the same age as our earliest Qurans, the difference is that 100 years after the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him there were still companions alive, Learn some history Imam Zuhri the student of the companions and the imam at the time of Umar ibn Abdul Aziz was one of the first hadith collectors than there is Imam Maliks Collection who was the student of Anas ibn Malik May Allah be pleasedwithhim
FATAL12SKILLZ 7 months ago
@MrHamza74 There is no way you can know the history of your messenger without the hadith, because the Seera records and their hadith are weaker than the hadith of bukhari. the million hadith circulation is false and here is a reply to that accusation
islamic-awareness(dot)org/Hadith/bukhari(Dot)html
FATAL12SKILLZ 7 months ago
@MrHamza74 Its funny because that argument has been brought up from Anis Sorrosh, a christian that hates Islam
FATAL12SKILLZ 7 months ago
MORE EXAMPLES:
Beatrice d'Este (age 5) engaged to Ludovico Sforza Duke of Milan (age 28)
Caterina Sforza (age 10) married Girolamo Riario (age 30)
Saint Elizabeth of Portugal (age 12) married Denis of Portugal (age 22)
Theodora Komnene (age 12) married Baldwin III of Jerusalem (age 40)
Bianca Maria Sforza (age 2) married Philibert I, Duke of Savoy, was a widow by age ten.
Lucrezia Borgia (age 13) married Giovanni Sforza (age 27)
Eleanor of Provence (age 10) married Edward I of England (age 26)
servantforAllah 10 months ago
@servantforAllah What is your point? Difference between those examples and Muhammed is that M. was supposed to be in direct contact with our supreme creator.. Now the deed of fucking a 9 year old wasn't any less disgusting 1400 years ago.. The world was just less developed.. Which you will see back in a lot of things other the pedo acts.. However, for the one who should have brought us eternal rules from the one perfect being who created us, you can expect that he would have known...
TTFLS 10 months ago
@TTFLS You have to remember, that girls matured faster because of the age expectancy (40-60) and they were much more mature, they did house work. Her being young was also good for the religion because when she was young she would ask the most questions, most hadith narrated are from Aisha the mother of the believers. We respect her with utmost respect and we love her, we consider her our mother of Faith which is stronger than our mothers of blood and she is considered the first women scholar
FATAL12SKILLZ 7 months ago
@TTFLS And she is the one of the Greatest Islamic scholars. I love my mother
FATAL12SKILLZ 7 months ago
From a Christian perspective: Joseph married the Virgin mary when he was 90 years old and she was 12 years old .From a scientific perspective : most girls start their Sexual maturity in age 9. and girl who live in hot Countries Sexual maturity faster than the girls who live in cold Countries. From an Islamic perspective : aisha Was engaged to some one else before prophet muhammad that means that she was able to marry that time. and if that was worng the unbelievers of Quraish criticize muhammed
TheTeuki 10 months ago 2
@TheTeuki Well said my friend
VKM7md 9 months ago
@VKM7md thank you
TheTeuki 9 months ago
@freethinker077 Assalamoalikum(Peace), I hav no idea abt the issues mentioned in ur previous posts, better ask some religious scholar
HavLuv4AllNBLuved 11 months ago
Assalamoalikum,hmm i hav never saw such a style of propagation,,, u facts were irrefutable,,, funny though
HavLuv4AllNBLuved 11 months ago
this video is awesome :)
read this:
Google: (The Crazy-Quilt of Our Age of Consent Laws)
In the USA last century, the age of consent was 10 years old. California was the first state to change the age of consent to 14, which it did in 1889. After California, other US states joined in and raised the age of consent too.
pamuk7 1 year ago
this video is awesome :)
pamuk7 1 year ago
much respect...
helix4811 1 year ago
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antiwar2 1 year ago
hi
its been quite a while..i cant recall...shall i research it for you?
bret
clevonamerica 1 year ago
I SPIT IN YOUR GAY FACE I SEE YOU IN THE HELL WHEN I SEE YOU IN THE STREET THAN :.............
allahkullu 7 months ago
hi clevon could you please tell me what source you used to get the age of mary tudors marriage at 9 months old.
pathaanxx 1 year ago
Why didn't the prophet (pbuh) adopt aysha instead of marrying her?
fazryu 1 year ago
@fazryu THnk about the time frame. Thing were much different back then. You are talking about over 1400 years ago.
antiwar2 1 year ago
@antiwar2 no offence, but isn't the purpose of marriage to have lawful sex?? I think a 9 year old girl would too young for that =S
fazryu 1 year ago
@fazryu Every culture, every society on Earth 1400 years ago and earlier practiced young marriages. Remember, we did not have great medical science back then. People did not live for very long. When a female bled, it was a sign that she was turning into an adult, ready to breed. If a female in that time frame was not married before 18, she was usually looked down upon. Girls in the United States were married off at a very young age when America first became a nation.
antiwar2 1 year ago
@antiwar2 ok; thank you =)
fazryu 1 year ago
@fazryu You're welcome. :)
antiwar2 1 year ago
@fazryu
It depends on who you ask, besides the moral codes today, are different than morals in the past. Why just 100 years ago, America refused to give women the right to vote, 200 years ago in America, women were burned on the stake for so called witch craft, that isn't a long time. Now imagine the morals from 1400 years ago, they would have been completely different than they are today
helix4811 1 year ago
@helix4811 yeh that makes sense; thank you
fazryu 1 year ago
@fazryu
no prob, i do what i can.
helix4811 1 year ago
Difference is that he is a prophet of God and no prophet of God would ever do those things he did. Rape, murder etc etc.
FreedomResistance 1 year ago
@FreedomResistance Rape? Like those losers on the street? Do you even know what marriage is? He takes responsibility for her. Now, which culture allow sex before marriage? Murder - means to kill for profit or advantage. Do you have any Idea that the Christians and Jew tried to kill him and they bully Muslims because they pray in front of Kaaba. Self defense is not murder. And wth do you mean by etc etc. You are brainwashed!
La19000 1 year ago
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@La19000
You are brainwashed.
FreedomResistance 1 year ago
A few additional points
1) young brides are common in semitic cultures. According to traditional christian sources, Mary was 12 when she became pregnant.
2) if Muhamemd (SAW) was a paedophile, why did he wait 3 years from his engagement to Aisha to consumation of that marriage when, according to the traditions of his day, such a wait was unnecessary?
3) Aisha was engaged-to-be-married to an older man before she met the Prophet (SAW). that engagement broke when Aisha's father became a muslim.
BabaZonge 1 year ago
@BabaZonge the last sentence made my eyes watery :)
MuslimBro91 1 year ago
Also, every country has their own rules and laws. In England, today, the consent age for marriage is 16. However, in Saudi and many other middle eastern countries, it is after puberty. And yes, some girls do reach puberty at 9 years old. Just wanted to add that to this response as well.
Lonedreamer 1 year ago
that arabic accent never gets old.
restnn 1 year ago 4
@restnn
you made me smile
clevonamerica 1 year ago
i love you man
you are awesome
love from Pakistan
zafarafridi 1 year ago
@101vivalaRaza
Whether you like it or not - Muhammad (S) was the greatest man that ever lived. He married Ayesha at 9 years old. The entire world celebrated their marriage. And the world still loves Muhammad (S). So, BOO YAH!
YemeniteOriginals 1 year ago
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your awesome dude!
alphamo289er 1 year ago
Salami muh muHOMOmed Habarra, Jabara, zabbara. Dis poser he think he funny. HAHAHAHA he would be pimping his 9 year old daughter outside of mosque if he was comedian cuz he could not survive. Hey clitamerica let me have yor daughter 2 marrry so I can bang her ass to emulate PROFIT muHOMOmed
AlahFuxPigs 1 year ago
@101vivalaRaza: Dis balding poser he need more testaserone, yes. He need rogaine or he need to glue me pubic hairs on his head so no more need to wear toupee, okay. Dis poser he ignorent but he good muSlime. He breed his own kid so he can bang his daughter in da ass to emulate PROFIT mu-ham-head. Alahu Porkbar!
AlahFuxPigs 1 year ago
iz true muHOMOmed, shit be upon him, wuz first INTERNATIONAL PEDOPHILE. I is muzlim cleric, I Knows more than this impostar. Mo's cawk smelled like 9 year old booty hole.
AlahFuxPigs 1 year ago
moHOMOmmed was a pedophile fuker who liked to sodomise deformed moslem lullas...his fabricated stories are bullshit..he is just a war monger ...why don't people worship Great Alexander?he is better
drhitman29 1 year ago
@101vivalaRaza hey amigo you are mejicun right - why do you oppose pedophilia? Wouldn't you like to be able to rape underage goats too?
crusaderwatch1 1 year ago
Allah's cocK is DEGENERATE - It allowed Mohammed to rape and murder while engaging in Sodomy
crusaderwatch1 1 year ago
I am ghostsodomy. I live to tear up the arseholes of ghosts and ghost chasers. I have torn up the ghostly arseholes of many people. I have blown my spunk in the ghostly arseholes of dead communists, Nazis, jihadists, famous celebrities, you name it. However, there is a line I do draw. I would have to pass on the chance to pound the ghostly arsehole of a dead girl who is the same age as Aisha when Muhammad screwed her. Boo!
ghostsodomy2012 1 year ago 2
@ghostsodomy2012 : No worry me friend to sodomize little girl. Dis good MUSlime he breed his own kid. He bang his own pre-teen daughter up da ass when he try to emulate da PROFIT muHOMOmed, piss be upon him. His cawk smell like his daughter's preteen booty whole.
I is muzlim cleric. I know kuran. I have daughter preteen daughter also. I give her to anoder cleric friend to phuk in ass. Alahu Porkbar!!
AlahFuxPigs 1 year ago
Nice wig btw :)
NomadSpirit555 1 year ago
made simple just read below one paragraph after the other.
javidakbar 1 year ago
Mohammad (saw)had a wife name ayesha (ra) she was 6 when she got married to Mohammad(saw). he had no consummation of marrage with her until she was 9 years old. many people of that time had young wifes and did not treat them correctly . Mohammad(saw) a prophet of ALLAH(swa)was sent as a final messanger to correct the stupid ignorant people pagans jews
javidakbar 1 year ago
christans etc.... those who understood of him followed him. of all the things he taught those people was this that you are asking of.which is his marrige to ayesha (ra).if you look at history and do some reserch you will come to know that europeans had young wifes and they treated them horribly also chineese history too. the ignorant people of those days cared less and less. now to explain this to you who is so ignorant, when is a woman a woman, the answer is when she has the ability
javidakbar 1 year ago
to reproduce ie have children. when her menstruating cycle starts she is able to concieve. some women have a late cycle other have early clcles. ayesha (ra) her clcle at 9 years of age. people of that time wanted children preferable boys since God had daughters someone had to have boys am i right or wrong?<---(making fun of pagans as they thought God would have daughters and they can have boys.ie better than God).however pagans didnt know of this due to attempt and successes of
javidakbar 1 year ago
murder of their prophets at thier proper time; not just Jesue(as) but other prophets who try to eduicate the ignorant. ;Mohammsd(saw) is the example that the jews and christans are waiting for but over 2000 years no spirt came to them. read matthew 10;23. jesus(as)never come: "but when they persecute you in this city, flee ye unto another, for VERILY I say unto you , ye shall NOT HAVE GONE over the cities of israel till the SON OF MAN(as referring to himsf) BE COME" the disciples
javidakbar 1 year ago
of Jesus(as) fled and they fled and have now perished for 2000 yrs. and no soghn of jesus(as) comming back as a prophet.This was the start one can say for men to have wifes not girlfriends or concubines. Mohammd (saw) set precedents in this.we as muslims are to get married not commit fornication. The definition of a pedophile is an adult who is sexually attracted to children
javidakbar 1 year ago
and molests them with out any marrage contract or legal binding.pedopheliacs are in the bible not in quran.if you read about in bible where god say kill men women children even donkey and cows except those who are virgins females and save some for him like 3200 or some number.in the bible numbers 31;17-18 also verse 35 and 40. In those times people married young girls for a reason not just for pleasures. those people did not have an easy life style. So therefore a man married
javidakbar 1 year ago
for a future use (man would look ahead in life not just for here today ,gone tomorrow attitude as we have now).for example man would work on a farm or go out trading for some days and return tired.there were no massaging chairs, caterers, cars to drive, so the young wife would relax him by massaging his feet, cook for him, and also do some of the work which the man is too tired to do at that time (tan hides, smoke some animals in smoke houses, dry meats etc... . as Mohammad (saw) was a
javidakbar 1 year ago
business man himself(he did not marry her at that time of his life anyways) he too would come home tired. women of those days had to be strong ;and young. unlike today they smoke use drugs wont cook wont even clean her house with appliances and utenciles which make it even more easy for her.they only try to clean them selfs so they can look good but not be truly clean only for show. In that scocity people married young girls because it was a custom and a practice this was not looked down upon.
javidakbar 1 year ago
In todays life we go for only what other want of us. we please others not for our own selfs just for show. So today in the usa in most states you have to be 18 to go to war 18 to smoke but have to be 21 to drink alcohol. Georga law for marrage is 16 in Newyork it its 18 why is that. in italy young childern as old as 11 drinking wine and not in usa. coluld it be difference of socity demographics. For job under the age kids; they work in Mcdonalds, burger king,
javidakbar 1 year ago
etc... at age of 16 and up for all the work they do they get minimum wage. while 18 and up its factory, warehouse, ship, docks etc... make just a bit more money. This is to say that they put them in age groups and not by intelegence or brawn.todays people are turning in to mush. due to apperance and he say she say attitude. The examplery life of our prophet Mohammad(saw) is the only way to have freedom, good moral values, personal hygiene
javidakbar 1 year ago
etc..... for those who dont know look agian and compare you self helath wise, religion, self awarness, modesty, commitment, intelegence, emotionlay etc...
There are plenty of backwardness in the laws of the U.S., England and other western countries. Check them out for your self and compare it with Islam. this information is just scratching the surface.
javidakbar 1 year ago
a funny thing i herd on the news prisoners cant look at female officers or nurses they have to tilt there heads down and not look at them hahahahah muslims do this all the time or as much as posssible because Mohammad (saw) said for us not to. so non muslims know what is right but wont admit to it. another warden lets the prisoners work in a society in a controled atmosphere and pays them just as muslims did when they had prisoners .
javidakbar 1 year ago
ARAB nabi - MOHD(SAW?) if he had sex with 9 year old kid then he is Pedophile. Also dont quote other pedophiles equating to Mohd(SAW?) as MOHD IS the only and last NABI messenger.
mishrik 1 year ago
hahahha, very funny
raju53 1 year ago
(1)
Yusuf Ali: O ye who believe! When you marry believing women,and then divorce them before you have touch them,then there is no period of IDDAT have you to count in respect of them:so give them a present.And set them free in ahandsome manner
Qur'an 33:49
From the verse above it is understood that Iddah (stipulated waiting period) is required if sexual contact has occurred within the marriage. If a woman is not touched by her husband, she should not have to observe any waiting period at all
AmdanAbla99 1 year ago
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(2)
After the mention of women who have not had their marriage consummated, the Quran goes further - discussing the women who need to observe the 'iddah, and the span of time required. We see in Quran 65.4:
واللائي يئسن من المحيض من نسائكم ان ارتبتم فعدتهن ثلاثة اشهر واللائي لم يحضن واولات الاحمال اجلهن ان يضعن حملهن ومن يتق الله يجعل له من امره يسرا
AmdanAbla99 1 year ago
(3)
Transliteration: Waalla-ee ya-isna mina almaheedi min nisa-ikum ini irtabtum faAAiddatuhunna thalathatu ashhurin waalla-ee lam yahidna waolatu al-ahmali ajaluhunna an yadaAAna hamlahunna waman yattaqi Allaha yajAAal lahu min amrihi yusran
Yusuf Ali: Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the prescribed period, if ye have any doubts, is three months, and for those who have no courses (it is the same):
AmdanAbla99 1 year ago
(4) for those who carry (life within their wombs), their period is until they deliver their burdens: and for those who fear Allah, He will make their path easy.
Qur'an 65:4
Here the 'Iddah is prescribed to three categories of women:
First the phrase: “Yaisna min al-maheedhi” which means “those women who are desperate of menses” is an indication to women who reached the stage of menstruation but do not menstruate and of those who reached menopause.
AmdanAbla99 1 year ago
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(5)
Desperate of menses underlines that it concerns women who though reached the age, fail to menstruate too. Their 'Iddah period is three months.
Next comes, “Wallaee Lam yahidhna” which means “those who have not menstruated yet” This group of females are pre-pubescent girls who have not yet menstruated. Here the 'Iddah prescribed for them is equal to the previous group of women (ie. three months).
Lastly, the women who are pregnant - their prescribed 'iddah is until they have given birth.
AmdanAbla99 1 year ago
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Quran [16:116]
Do not say about what your tongues describe falsely, “This is lawful and that is unlawful” so that you may forge the lie upon Allah. Surely, those who forge a lie upon Allah do not prosper.
Quran [6:115]
The Word of your Lord is perfect in truth and justice. None is there to change His words, and He is All-Hearing, All-Knowing.
AmdanAbla99 1 year ago
/watch?v=VMS0YexWBTk
AmdanAbla99 1 year ago
Loveeeeeeeeeeeeee ur accent man, u r so ausome.
superAlover1 1 year ago
@superAlover1
you are so kind
clevonamerica 1 year ago
@clevonamerica, what is that supose to do with being kid? I realy enjoy this vid
THX 4 ur point of view
superAlover1 1 year ago
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@clevonamerica Are you a muslim?
redfoxarts 8 months ago
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Oh my...that user Athiestx..something.. his account is suspeneded ? :O oooh... I hope he gets my msgs...
And Joe..I respect you for what you are doing...I see that you have the strength to help eradicate the misunderstandings about Muslims & Islam...If you think you can continue with this, please dont stop.. :)
Peace on you brother...
Z1425 1 year ago
Oh my...that user Athiestx..something.. his account is suspeneded ? :O oooh... I hope he gets my msgs...
And Joe..I respect you for what you are doing...I see that you have the strength to help eradicate the misunderstandings about Muslims & Islam...If you think you can continue with this, please dont stop.. :)
Peace on y