In contrast to the explanation about super heroes in cities, the Hulk always worked best out in the open. Maybe because he was as much a force of massive destruction as a super "hero."
No offense but some Europeans like comics others don't, so Neal Adams is being a bit short sighted if he thinks that more Americans than Europeans like comics. Also when people say "They 're very American..." America has the same values and ideals as all western countries and very few Europeans look at super heroes and thinks they represent America. We think they represent the good in all of us, regardless of wether we American or not....
I agree that NY provides the perfect backdrop for American comic book superheroes because of its dynamic, cosmopolitan and urban feel. But I'm sure there are other American cities that can provide a good backdrop as well such as San Francisco or Chicago. I'm yet to see comic book super heroes that are based in these cities.
@flip1sba For the past year or so, the X-Men have been in San Fran. Don't know how well it's going, but that's where they are. The Defenders used to be in L.A. X-Factor used to be in D.C. JLA used to be in Detroit. Hulk used to be in Vegas.
@AzraelKnight speaking of Detroit, I noticed that in the movie Robocop and its sequels, the setting is in Detroit but were shot in Dallas, Houston and then Atlanta and used these cities as the backdrop for Detroit.
The fact all three cities are more vibrant and provide a better skyline.
Chicago. Isn't it the place where The Dark Knight was shot? :) (Yeah, I know what you mean)
Cisco would be great. After watching Dirty Harry or some other great crime movie classics (Bullitt) it seems like that's a city of millions of exciting (crime) stories.
John Romita, John Buscema, Jim Lee, Joe Kubert, Curt Swan, they're all good, but when it comes to Superman, there's only one man who can draw him perfectly, as he was meant to look like.. Alex Ross!
@DemiathDoomhammer John Romita, John Buscema, Jim Lee, Joe Kubert, Curt Swan, they're all good, but when it comes to Superman, there's only one man who can draw him perfectly, as he was meant to look like.. Jack Kirby!
@flip1sba - maybe that's why I prefer Alex Ross and not Jim Lee, even though he is a master in comics.. but there's something very 1950 about Alex Ross, he paints Superman (or any superhero or supervillain) as if they were trapped in some weird 1950 alternate universe, take a closer look and you see what I mean! and it's always bright and light, he rarely uses any dark colours.. I like that! now, give us a Justice League movie in that same style, ALEX ROSS STYLE!
@DemiathDoomhammer Alex Ross is more influenced by The Golden Age of comics particularly Superman. Even Kingdom Come which has a semi-futuristic setting has a golden age feel to it. Jim Lee on the other hand has a style which is more suited for Marvel Comics particularly The X series, like X-Men, X-Force, etc. He has a more modern approach to comic books and is more on pencils and inks. Lee is not a painter unlike Ross.
@deepvoodoo Well most superhero comics back then (late 1930s-early 1940s) took place in an urban setting and a large number of the artists and creators were the children of immigrants who lived in places like N.Y.C.'s Lower East Side,
The Bronx, Brooklyn, I remember some quote that you could always spot tenement buildings in almost any Golden Age comic of that era wheither the story takes place in Metropolis, Gotham City, Central City or wherever.
@deepvoodoo Oh sure, but remember NYC was where most of the comicbook companies were back then from the 1930s to the early 1970s and where most of the editors writers and artists lived who worked in the comics industry and they always used the city as a background in one way or another, it really wasn't until the seventies when they even considered opening branches of Marvel and DC in like California or any other state.
@deepvoodoo One irony IMO these days is that Warner Bros (DC's owner) and Disney (Marvel's owner) are both pressuring both companies to relocate their offices to Hollywood, so someday instead of Spider-Man swinging through the canyons of the skyscrapers of Manhattan or Batman patrolling the dark streets of gotham they both may be patrolling Beverly Hills at some point.
@ededdneddyfan2 Nope, I'm not joking, I wish I was. Warner Bros and Disney have been keen to keep their companies closer to them in la la land for future movies I guess, myself I prefer them keeping some distance from the tinseltown glitz glamour and garishness scene for some reason.
i love the batman trailer there, i think tim burton should do a "remake" with updated effects cause he had a great feel for batman's world being very gothic, not so much for bruce wayne, cause their totally different at least visually
Many don't want him back parents and critics complained he took things to dark that's why dk and bb did so well they were both dark but not to dark and what it lacked it made up for with a delma you left thinking unlike burtons films which made your kids cry and you leave pissed.
? the end battle had cops standing over joker's (jack nichalson's) body as one of his joker teeth laughed, i saw it on starz this week so its really fresh lol
Well, the thing is, how many other heroes in the DC universe have powers that are equal to or more powerful than Superman?
Quite a few, actually. If one was suddenly the ruler of the world, then how quickly would someone else want to usurp their power. He sees the evils of true power and greed when he looks at Lex Luthor.
Power and Greed? I didnt say oppress the people, Im gonna rule in righteousness. Destroy and kill the wicked, feed and clothe the poor. Very simple. Superman is an Uncle Tom. Also Superman has a upside pentagram on his chest, the symbol of Baphomet, also known as Satan. Lex Luther is a bastard too so dont get it twisted.
dude! do you think stan lee did that painting on the wall behind him at 3:00, i think thats what most artists do is just draw on walls, also stan IS mos deffinetly the man! lol
there are THOUSANS of comic book titles publish now outisde the CBCA,even by ''mainstream'' publisher like Marvel and DC(under other names);Image is one of the more sucesfull;the code only stated that to be sold everywhere,you and to comform to certain standard acceptable by scociaty;Silver Surfer apperred in ''swimshorts'' for decades but Nova (the other herald) who appered in the mid-80's,seems featureless!
The reason why the superhero genre is so dominant is because in the history of U.S. comics, other comics genres such as horror, sex, political commentary, new age, and others, have been either censored or deliberately subsumed by those controlling the media status quo. That's not democracy. That's not progressive.
so you don't know about THE COMIC BOOK CODE AUTORITY?these guys censor super-hero comic right from the start!the 3 most popular comic book genre before super-heroes where cow-boy,detective and monster;Batman began in Detective Comic and the Hulk and the Thing from the FF are leftovers of the radio-active monster era of the 50's.the other genre died out or evolve.califying Marvel or DC comics of being the Media is giving far more power to these two little compagny(well,for most of their history)
read authority trust me and read majestic and spawn
no one is censoring them plus their is a lot of political satire and etc in the authority but if you wanna know which has all those things you mentioned read watchmen and sin city
Or, most likely, the distribution system in which comic books have now are shit. Let's not forget that Underground Comix during the mid-sixties and early seventies, Crime comics during the late 40s and early 50s, romance and war comics during the late fifties and early sixties routinely outsold superhero comics by a hefty margin.
i thought that the Black Panther was the african american batman or actually the just African batman... and Wayne Williams is not a good name thats the name of a atlanta murderer
no, not ever. Superman was just the spark that started the enormous craze. He was the first definite superhero. But he wasnt the first ever - quite a few came before him - Phantom, Shadow, Doc Savage, etc...
yeah... thats weird i thought superman was i mean when people ask you to name some superheroes superman always comes to mind.... and one question why is Superman and all other dc characters praised and i never heard of phantom, shadow, doc savage, etc...?
Because they become worldwide icons, while Phantom, Shadow, Doc Savage etc were pulp fiction heroes, rather than comics (pulp fiction is the pre-comics medium for these type of characters). Superman and Batman took a lot of inspiration from these pulp heroes.
The reason Superman always springs to mind first is he's the quintessential superhero. And he kind of lent his name to the genre (super..hero).
As for why you didnt hear of them, I dont know - have you read about the history of comics?
Alright so let me get this straight Doc Savage and etc where the first superheroes but in pulp fiction and Superman and etc where the first superheroes in comic books?... and no i have not read the history of comics i just watched this video to get some insight... and thanks for answering all my questions
Hmm...no. kind of, and kind of not. I'll put it simply: Superman is the first true superhero, but he has precedents.
Mandrake is the first hero with powers, but doesnt have a costume
Phantom is the first costumed hero, but doesnt have powers (like Batman).
Even those had precedents though - you can go far back as the Scarlet Pimpernel, or even earlier, or even mythology (Hercules?) but...well, Superman kind of set the standard. So, to confuse you slightly yeah, he might be the first superhero
Alright then thank you sir for your time I'm kind of sure that Superman set the standard for super heroes because hes basically perfect except that little kryptonite and red suns... but there where other superheroes before him that lead up to Superman's creation and we can go back to Hercules and to the time Ra's Al Ghul was born and then some more to see the first actual hero was right?
@itsdaunit If you don't count myths and legends like Samson and Hercules, then it's generally accepted that Superman was the first superhero. Although Popeye has a strong argument.
@capimarvel I guess I meant SUPER-POWERED heroes, which Phantom is not. I think falls more into the pulp action hero template, like Doc Savage. Still a good call - I'd forgotten him. He does have a costume though, and Batman wasn't super-powered either.
Nearly all of the art they used for the documentary was Alex Ross. I like the guy, but there are plenty of other talented artists they could have used.
i don't care what anyone says to you, they like Super-Heroes, at least, the idea. they might not like ALL super-heroes, but they just like the IDEA of super-powered (and in some cases, not even that) people running around in ridiculus outfits kicking ass.
you don't know jack shit brabon. without stan lee you wouldn't even have watched this because it wouldn't even exist. he played a major part in creating A LOT of heroes and villains. you might as well insult the whole comic book medium, because he's well respected. he's also THE MOST well known person in the medium along with jack kirby, and no one knows who the fuck you are.
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hey, lots of people know me and respect my opinion...and it appears that you know very little about the "marvel way" or how stan lee (who now decries the code) used the code to put ec comics out of biz...when that old fart dies, im gonna steal his toupe' collection to use as toilet paper...btw, if you go to the con this year, and run into stan, ask him how much of the spidey settlement he sent over to ditko
lol. whatever man, i was just making a point. i'm sure your opinion is well respected to people you know, and who am i to say otherwise. you can think what you like dude, and maybe you're even right, but that still doesn't change my opinion of him because i haven't seen anything but good from him. if you have a vid of him clobbering a baby seal than i might look at him differently.
wow I didnt expect see both Stan Lee and John Romita in this documentary... I am an old Spiderman fan and in my eyes , the spiderman storie, these 2 guys made , are classics(the first golden age of spiderman )
I said superboy wasn't limited to corn and wheat fields, he also travel in space and time with the Legion of Super Heroes. On Smallville tv show,scarecrow in a field. He battled a Insect guy in a barn,underground labs, inside a cave, in the artic, & in the Phantom zone. Battles Mr. Mxyptlk from the 5th dimension. JLA headquarters is in outer space. He has teamed up with Aquaman and Lori Lemaris in the ocean. Etc. Of course Superman appears in Metropolis but he isn't limited to it.
Superboy was in Smallville, Kansas flew across corn and wheatfields. Didn't depend on urban environment, he also traveled in outer space and other dimesions.
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stfu, some hero's dont depend on urban, but the likes of spiderman and batman do. plus, how many bad guys was superboy fighting in kansas, fucking shut up
In contrast to the explanation about super heroes in cities, the Hulk always worked best out in the open. Maybe because he was as much a force of massive destruction as a super "hero."
deltabilly1 1 week ago
full movie in megaupload or put the whole movie in a torrent,
thanks for the upload any way!!!!!.
jvcc31 2 months ago
Also thank you Stan Lee!!!
PKrules12 5 months ago
No offense but some Europeans like comics others don't, so Neal Adams is being a bit short sighted if he thinks that more Americans than Europeans like comics. Also when people say "They 're very American..." America has the same values and ideals as all western countries and very few Europeans look at super heroes and thinks they represent America. We think they represent the good in all of us, regardless of wether we American or not....
PKrules12 5 months ago 2
Whait a minute: Who's the pirate sueprheroe?? ò.ò
Cthulhuized 6 months ago
there was a janator in my school and he drew batman for me and gave out comics to some kids
chuckfulpingnorris 6 months ago
Wow... Hearing Siegel speak he sounds like the absolute, quintessential nerd. A "Supernerd", if you will. :-)
termsofusepolice 7 months ago 6
I have to admit, it annoys me they mention nothing about either doc savage or the shadow. They were the real first superheroes!
shadowknowsjo 7 months ago
I agree that NY provides the perfect backdrop for American comic book superheroes because of its dynamic, cosmopolitan and urban feel. But I'm sure there are other American cities that can provide a good backdrop as well such as San Francisco or Chicago. I'm yet to see comic book super heroes that are based in these cities.
flip1sba 8 months ago
@flip1sba For the past year or so, the X-Men have been in San Fran. Don't know how well it's going, but that's where they are. The Defenders used to be in L.A. X-Factor used to be in D.C. JLA used to be in Detroit. Hulk used to be in Vegas.
AzraelKnight 8 months ago
@AzraelKnight speaking of Detroit, I noticed that in the movie Robocop and its sequels, the setting is in Detroit but were shot in Dallas, Houston and then Atlanta and used these cities as the backdrop for Detroit.
The fact all three cities are more vibrant and provide a better skyline.
flip1sba 4 months ago
@flip1sba
Chicago. Isn't it the place where The Dark Knight was shot? :) (Yeah, I know what you mean)
Cisco would be great. After watching Dirty Harry or some other great crime movie classics (Bullitt) it seems like that's a city of millions of exciting (crime) stories.
lassolegenda 6 months ago
Um... I squealed when I saw Stan Lee...
bonez1925 8 months ago
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flip1sba 8 months ago
i want to see batman beat up hillbillies
zepps88 9 months ago
@zepps88
Come and listen to my story 'bout a man named Bruce,
'Used ta dress hisself up like some crazy kind'a goose.......
theshadow1932 9 months ago
anyone know the song at 01:30?
Salvidrummer 11 months ago
John Romita, John Buscema, Jim Lee, Joe Kubert, Curt Swan, they're all good, but when it comes to Superman, there's only one man who can draw him perfectly, as he was meant to look like.. Alex Ross!
DemiathDoomhammer 11 months ago
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@DemiathDoomhammer John Romita, John Buscema, Jim Lee, Joe Kubert, Curt Swan, they're all good, but when it comes to Superman, there's only one man who can draw him perfectly, as he was meant to look like.. Jack Kirby!
feedkillchain 11 months ago
@DemiathDoomhammer I agree on this one. Though he usually paints him as middle age.
flip1sba 8 months ago
@flip1sba - maybe that's why I prefer Alex Ross and not Jim Lee, even though he is a master in comics.. but there's something very 1950 about Alex Ross, he paints Superman (or any superhero or supervillain) as if they were trapped in some weird 1950 alternate universe, take a closer look and you see what I mean! and it's always bright and light, he rarely uses any dark colours.. I like that! now, give us a Justice League movie in that same style, ALEX ROSS STYLE!
DemiathDoomhammer 8 months ago
@DemiathDoomhammer Alex Ross is more influenced by The Golden Age of comics particularly Superman. Even Kingdom Come which has a semi-futuristic setting has a golden age feel to it. Jim Lee on the other hand has a style which is more suited for Marvel Comics particularly The X series, like X-Men, X-Force, etc. He has a more modern approach to comic books and is more on pencils and inks. Lee is not a painter unlike Ross.
flip1sba 8 months ago
@flip1sba - thanks for the info
DemiathDoomhammer 8 months ago
Is this doc.'s full name "SPIDERMAN: Once Upon A Time The Super Heroes"? I looked for it on amazon and that is what I found.
SLAUGHTERFILM 1 year ago
'...completely oblivious to gravity, completely oblivious to walls...' Gawd, that sounds so stupid the way he says it. LOL
Khultan 1 year ago
superman is a rip off of Desperate Dan
natmanprime 1 year ago
noooo batman is better than supes
719AO 1 year ago
There goes stan lee again. taking credit for other peoples work.
novoneiro 1 year ago
@novoneiro he doesn't do that hell he turned down a cameo in blade becuse he didn't work on it.
mayhem9024 1 year ago
@mayhem9024 I would recommend reading about a man named Jack Kirby. The real creator of the marvel universe.
novoneiro 1 year ago
@novoneiro I know jack you asshole bstans never went and said " i did it all by myself" he's mentioned jack a number of times.
mayhem9024 1 year ago
@mayhem9024 Is it possible to respond without sounding like a total shit you stupid fuck. Go fuck yourself .
novoneiro 1 year ago
@novoneiro you basicly talked down to me your fault dickwad
mayhem9024 1 year ago
they talk about the comic what about the histroy
SuperKidslim 1 year ago
wait I like comics and im like 30!!!!! am i a nerd?? is comic reading nerdish???! since when?
gusto1978 1 year ago
@gusto1978 If reading comics makes you happy, and you enjoy it, then there is nothing bad about it. :)
MarvelMovieMaker100 1 year ago
"Truth, justice, and maybe not so much the American way".........tell me a better one, please!
cano21 1 year ago
@cano21 the japanies way
metal9535 1 year ago
@metal9535 Do you mean...."Japanese?"
cano21 1 year ago
the art was so simple back then, yet it still hold up so well against the amazing stuff thats taken place since.
HamerLamer 1 year ago
I'm glad someone put this on here......5 stars
l4597 2 years ago 26
spiderman looked way cooler with narrow eyes! (-- the big eyed spiderman looks totally stupid!
Preliminimal 2 years ago
Coincidentally, Oct 9, 1940 was the day John Lennon was born.
deepvoodoo 2 years ago
It's interesting how much this doc makes a meal out of the urban-aspect.
deepvoodoo 2 years ago
@deepvoodoo Well most superhero comics back then (late 1930s-early 1940s) took place in an urban setting and a large number of the artists and creators were the children of immigrants who lived in places like N.Y.C.'s Lower East Side,
The Bronx, Brooklyn, I remember some quote that you could always spot tenement buildings in almost any Golden Age comic of that era wheither the story takes place in Metropolis, Gotham City, Central City or wherever.
cha5 1 year ago
@cha5 Sure, I'm just saying that they make an awful lot out of it.
deepvoodoo 1 year ago
@deepvoodoo Oh sure, but remember NYC was where most of the comicbook companies were back then from the 1930s to the early 1970s and where most of the editors writers and artists lived who worked in the comics industry and they always used the city as a background in one way or another, it really wasn't until the seventies when they even considered opening branches of Marvel and DC in like California or any other state.
cha5 1 year ago
@deepvoodoo One irony IMO these days is that Warner Bros (DC's owner) and Disney (Marvel's owner) are both pressuring both companies to relocate their offices to Hollywood, so someday instead of Spider-Man swinging through the canyons of the skyscrapers of Manhattan or Batman patrolling the dark streets of gotham they both may be patrolling Beverly Hills at some point.
cha5 1 year ago
@cha5 You have to be joking!!
ededdneddyfan2 10 months ago
@ededdneddyfan2 Nope, I'm not joking, I wish I was. Warner Bros and Disney have been keen to keep their companies closer to them in la la land for future movies I guess, myself I prefer them keeping some distance from the tinseltown glitz glamour and garishness scene for some reason.
cha5 10 months ago
what kind og black paint is he using?
is it that ink that you can refill eddings with?
asnierkishcowboy 2 years ago
@asnierkishcowboy its not paint its ink
chingchong54 2 years ago
@chingchong54
writing ink?
is there a special term for it?
i wonder because the paper dosnt roll.
usually if paper gets wet it starts to roll.
therefore it muste be something special about the ink or the paper.
what paper does he use? :)
asnierkishcowboy 2 years ago
I think it's what is known as "indian ink" that's indian as in taj mahal, not cowboys and....
judgedredd123 2 years ago
to be honest i have no idea i only know that its some type of ink
chingchong54 2 years ago
all these people (comicbook writers as artists) sound like philosophers xD
voske44 2 years ago
@voske44 u cant help it really lol
chatanwarrior 2 years ago
no they don't; they sound like pedophiles
iDraw3G 2 years ago
i love the batman trailer there, i think tim burton should do a "remake" with updated effects cause he had a great feel for batman's world being very gothic, not so much for bruce wayne, cause their totally different at least visually
chatanwarrior 2 years ago
Many don't want him back parents and critics complained he took things to dark that's why dk and bb did so well they were both dark but not to dark and what it lacked it made up for with a delma you left thinking unlike burtons films which made your kids cry and you leave pissed.
bartman30012 2 years ago
@bartman30012 hahahaha , well the only thing i didnt like about the first batman movie was the joker died
chatanwarrior 2 years ago
joker didn't die they never got his body like in true joker fashion he lives to joke another day.
bartman30012 2 years ago
? the end battle had cops standing over joker's (jack nichalson's) body as one of his joker teeth laughed, i saw it on starz this week so its really fresh lol
chatanwarrior 2 years ago
I'm writing two comic's and one of them take's place in Seattle and the other is in Londin England 1878
theAndyChannel28 2 years ago
Batman in a small town in Texas i wanna see that,swinging from barns and hay.find the joker on a farm molesting little kids XD
daemonsknowmyname 2 years ago
So cool to hear Jerry Siegel speak in an interview.
MainCharacterChannel 2 years ago 3
i didn't know Superman didn't like Hillbillies.
XAVIERCUERVO 2 years ago
Batman doesn't like Hillbillies.
Superman was raised by Hillbillies and therefore get's on fairly well with them.
yellowcougar18 2 years ago 7
Farmers not hillbillies because the Kents dont live in hills.
Lol8922 2 years ago
Ah, very true. Heck, I was brought up on a farm, born and raised, albeit in Ireland, not the US.
So I should apologise for the Hillbilly remark, although I was replying to a comment.
yellowcougar18 2 years ago
Redneck Superman =D LOL
You are right, his fosterparents were farmers not trailertrash.
Drittkladden 2 years ago
@yellowcougar18 Which explains why Superman is retarded. Any person that had Superman's power would take over the earth immediately
doubleaamazin 1 year ago
@doubleaamazin
Well, the thing is, how many other heroes in the DC universe have powers that are equal to or more powerful than Superman?
Quite a few, actually. If one was suddenly the ruler of the world, then how quickly would someone else want to usurp their power. He sees the evils of true power and greed when he looks at Lex Luthor.
yellowcougar18 1 year ago
@yellowcougar18
Power and Greed? I didnt say oppress the people, Im gonna rule in righteousness. Destroy and kill the wicked, feed and clothe the poor. Very simple. Superman is an Uncle Tom. Also Superman has a upside pentagram on his chest, the symbol of Baphomet, also known as Satan. Lex Luther is a bastard too so dont get it twisted.
doubleaamazin 1 year ago
STAN THE MAN!!
Excelsior!
A real fan
martinspecialeffects 2 years ago
dude! do you think stan lee did that painting on the wall behind him at 3:00, i think thats what most artists do is just draw on walls, also stan IS mos deffinetly the man! lol
chatanwarrior 2 years ago
no, I am willing to bet he did not paint that, as he has never done art on any of the titles.
deviantbreed 2 years ago
@deviantbreed aww *dreams dashed* he's still the man! lol
chatanwarrior 2 years ago
Quesada is such a douche
harveydents 2 years ago
i had a dream with Stan Lee and he gave me 50 dollars or something.wierd.
daemonsknowmyname 2 years ago
Stan giving money away? It really must have been a dream:)
tucountry 2 years ago
I dont know if you agree, but the heroes are nothing with the villains and adventures
Warqin 2 years ago
Was that Interview with Jerry Siegel a Script?
IHS7 2 years ago
there are THOUSANS of comic book titles publish now outisde the CBCA,even by ''mainstream'' publisher like Marvel and DC(under other names);Image is one of the more sucesfull;the code only stated that to be sold everywhere,you and to comform to certain standard acceptable by scociaty;Silver Surfer apperred in ''swimshorts'' for decades but Nova (the other herald) who appered in the mid-80's,seems featureless!
bernito2 2 years ago
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stan lee the money hog
kneesan 3 years ago
The reason why the superhero genre is so dominant is because in the history of U.S. comics, other comics genres such as horror, sex, political commentary, new age, and others, have been either censored or deliberately subsumed by those controlling the media status quo. That's not democracy. That's not progressive.
intrepidlikes 3 years ago
so you don't know about THE COMIC BOOK CODE AUTORITY?these guys censor super-hero comic right from the start!the 3 most popular comic book genre before super-heroes where cow-boy,detective and monster;Batman began in Detective Comic and the Hulk and the Thing from the FF are leftovers of the radio-active monster era of the 50's.the other genre died out or evolve.califying Marvel or DC comics of being the Media is giving far more power to these two little compagny(well,for most of their history)
bernito2 3 years ago 3
The Comic Code Authority means nothing today. We aren't living in the '50s.
FlamingoKicker 2 years ago
too true. perfect example - Wanted (the graphic novel)
kuriosity89 2 years ago
cbca was gone ages ago. no one cares about it anymore.
JiMMyJaM08061991 2 years ago
read authority trust me and read majestic and spawn
no one is censoring them plus their is a lot of political satire and etc in the authority but if you wanna know which has all those things you mentioned read watchmen and sin city
reggie135 3 years ago
Or, most likely, the distribution system in which comic books have now are shit. Let's not forget that Underground Comix during the mid-sixties and early seventies, Crime comics during the late 40s and early 50s, romance and war comics during the late fifties and early sixties routinely outsold superhero comics by a hefty margin.
benelgermosen 3 years ago
Batman is the man
RobHorrible 3 years ago 4
i truly think that batman was meant to be black
AllAmerican120 3 years ago
you mean dress in black or as in westley snipes black or obama half white half black black?
OBAMA
is
our
new
President
itsdaunit 3 years ago
no i mean african american there is a rumor that stan lee is about to make a black batman(Wayne Williams)
AllAmerican120 3 years ago
i thought that the Black Panther was the african american batman or actually the just African batman... and Wayne Williams is not a good name thats the name of a atlanta murderer
itsdaunit 3 years ago
Bruce Wayans
HarryPartridge 3 years ago
where did they get those realistic pics..?
elcusi007 3 years ago
there from Alex Ross. is done Marvels (marvel) and Justice (DC) to name a few. is a great artist.
gix0 3 years ago 3
so superman was the 1st superhero ever?
itsdaunit 3 years ago 15
Actually, the first Superhero was Jesus...
angelV1 3 years ago
I think "super" understates jesus
NIMPAK1 3 years ago
no, not ever. Superman was just the spark that started the enormous craze. He was the first definite superhero. But he wasnt the first ever - quite a few came before him - Phantom, Shadow, Doc Savage, etc...
9InchWarrior 3 years ago
yeah... thats weird i thought superman was i mean when people ask you to name some superheroes superman always comes to mind.... and one question why is Superman and all other dc characters praised and i never heard of phantom, shadow, doc savage, etc...?
itsdaunit 3 years ago
Because they become worldwide icons, while Phantom, Shadow, Doc Savage etc were pulp fiction heroes, rather than comics (pulp fiction is the pre-comics medium for these type of characters). Superman and Batman took a lot of inspiration from these pulp heroes.
The reason Superman always springs to mind first is he's the quintessential superhero. And he kind of lent his name to the genre (super..hero).
As for why you didnt hear of them, I dont know - have you read about the history of comics?
9InchWarrior 3 years ago
Alright so let me get this straight Doc Savage and etc where the first superheroes but in pulp fiction and Superman and etc where the first superheroes in comic books?... and no i have not read the history of comics i just watched this video to get some insight... and thanks for answering all my questions
itsdaunit 3 years ago
Hmm...no. kind of, and kind of not. I'll put it simply: Superman is the first true superhero, but he has precedents.
Mandrake is the first hero with powers, but doesnt have a costume
Phantom is the first costumed hero, but doesnt have powers (like Batman).
Even those had precedents though - you can go far back as the Scarlet Pimpernel, or even earlier, or even mythology (Hercules?) but...well, Superman kind of set the standard. So, to confuse you slightly yeah, he might be the first superhero
9InchWarrior 3 years ago
Alright then thank you sir for your time I'm kind of sure that Superman set the standard for super heroes because hes basically perfect except that little kryptonite and red suns... but there where other superheroes before him that lead up to Superman's creation and we can go back to Hercules and to the time Ra's Al Ghul was born and then some more to see the first actual hero was right?
itsdaunit 3 years ago
i cant believe i got some thumbs up
itsdaunit 3 years ago
@itsdaunit in the modern sense yes
redcoltken 1 year ago
@itsdaunit If you don't count myths and legends like Samson and Hercules, then it's generally accepted that Superman was the first superhero. Although Popeye has a strong argument.
feedkillchain 11 months ago
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what about The Phantom?
capimarvel 11 months ago
@capimarvel I guess I meant SUPER-POWERED heroes, which Phantom is not. I think falls more into the pulp action hero template, like Doc Savage. Still a good call - I'd forgotten him. He does have a costume though, and Batman wasn't super-powered either.
feedkillchain 11 months ago
@feedkillchain Also Popeye was 1929 and the Phantom was 1936. Cool character though.
feedkillchain 11 months ago
@feedkillchain also Flash Gordon.
flip1sba 8 months ago
Nearly all of the art they used for the documentary was Alex Ross. I like the guy, but there are plenty of other talented artists they could have used.
ptrlapp 3 years ago
i don't care what anyone says to you, they like Super-Heroes, at least, the idea. they might not like ALL super-heroes, but they just like the IDEA of super-powered (and in some cases, not even that) people running around in ridiculus outfits kicking ass.
Centuria13 3 years ago
holy shit he said lubbock texas i live here sweet
garoutte5 3 years ago 2
the dark knight was great guys you should watch it
JAREDNINEJ9 3 years ago 3
Goddamn, this is how it went.
Stan told Ditko what he wanted and Ditko would draw it.
Later on Stan would only say a what bad guy he wanted and what problems spiderman would have, the fights and eveything else was up to Steve.
Then Stan would just say "Do whatever you want"
Then Steve would make art work give it to Stan and Stan would come up with the story.
Stan mostly came up with Spidey, Ditko came up with the costume.
Ditko had more to do with Dr. Stange.
HarryPotter1992x 3 years ago 2
man i love john romitas art there both great
Rahl005 3 years ago 2
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stan lee needs to stfu...he didnt draw any of the comics, what the hell is he talking about "i used new york as the background" the man is delusional
brabon 3 years ago
He never said he drew them, he used NY as the setting of the stories.
510Toro 3 years ago 11
lee means that when he use to write he used newyork as a back drop you faggot!!!!!! so shut up brabon.
azuzaj1 3 years ago 6
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as the artists already drew ny backgrounds, guess that wasnt too hard
lee is a hack
brabon 3 years ago
you don't know jack shit brabon. without stan lee you wouldn't even have watched this because it wouldn't even exist. he played a major part in creating A LOT of heroes and villains. you might as well insult the whole comic book medium, because he's well respected. he's also THE MOST well known person in the medium along with jack kirby, and no one knows who the fuck you are.
NorseRonin 3 years ago 5
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hey, lots of people know me and respect my opinion...and it appears that you know very little about the "marvel way" or how stan lee (who now decries the code) used the code to put ec comics out of biz...when that old fart dies, im gonna steal his toupe' collection to use as toilet paper...btw, if you go to the con this year, and run into stan, ask him how much of the spidey settlement he sent over to ditko
brabon 3 years ago
lol. whatever man, i was just making a point. i'm sure your opinion is well respected to people you know, and who am i to say otherwise. you can think what you like dude, and maybe you're even right, but that still doesn't change my opinion of him because i haven't seen anything but good from him. if you have a vid of him clobbering a baby seal than i might look at him differently.
NorseRonin 3 years ago 3
you do know that the artist is not always the writer
Gahlaxy 3 years ago
wow I didnt expect see both Stan Lee and John Romita in this documentary... I am an old Spiderman fan and in my eyes , the spiderman storie, these 2 guys made , are classics(the first golden age of spiderman )
madsdahlc 4 years ago
Its too bad Ditko wasn't around for this, he kept to himslef, and rarley did any shows. I love how his art exploded off the pages.
wallcrawler50 3 years ago
I said superboy wasn't limited to corn and wheat fields, he also travel in space and time with the Legion of Super Heroes. On Smallville tv show,scarecrow in a field. He battled a Insect guy in a barn,underground labs, inside a cave, in the artic, & in the Phantom zone. Battles Mr. Mxyptlk from the 5th dimension. JLA headquarters is in outer space. He has teamed up with Aquaman and Lori Lemaris in the ocean. Etc. Of course Superman appears in Metropolis but he isn't limited to it.
hydrolito 4 years ago
Superboy was in Smallville, Kansas flew across corn and wheatfields. Didn't depend on urban environment, he also traveled in outer space and other dimesions.
hydrolito 4 years ago
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stfu, some hero's dont depend on urban, but the likes of spiderman and batman do. plus, how many bad guys was superboy fighting in kansas, fucking shut up
killleer3789 4 years ago
spider-man dont depend on urban environments hes been to the savage land to another planet and other places that i cant remember right now
BradLad56 3 years ago
Wow! Siegal sounded like a real nerd. But we nerds rule the world anyway!
Xanziber 4 years ago 16
I defenitley agree! :)
spidermanwebslinge 4 years ago 3
AWESOME!!! THANKS AGAIN!!!
Rubaka 4 years ago