I would have to say that Mr. D'Souza doesn't have a clue about the theory of abrogation which claims that if a peaceful verse was revealed earlier, and a violent one was revealed later then the peaceful verse is repealed
The idea of peaceful Islamic rulers tolerating the religious beliefs of those they ruled is a blatant falsehood. The leaders in question were hardly pious Muslims; rather they were secular ones who engaged in such tolerance as a means to secure their own political control. These periods of peace and "tolerance" were always preceded by those of mass slaughter, forced conversion and enslavement at the hands of rampaging Islamic armies. D'Souza got his shit rocked by Spencer big time.
Timur himself recorded the invasions in his memoirs
, and in the course of one hour the heads of 10,000 infidels were cut off. The sword of Islam was washed in the blood of the infidels, and all the goods and effects, the treasure and the grain which for many a long year had been stored in the fort became the spoil of my soldiers. All these infidel Hindus were slain, their women and children,
Dinesh D'Souza came out of this debate looking like a fool. His reasoning was shallow and he doesn't seem to be as knowledgeable in depth about the koran as Robert Spencer. I also read that many Muslim scholars refused to debate Robert Spencer because of fear of debating someone of Robert Spencer's erudition.
Muslims ruled northern India peacefully? Is this guy fuckin kidding me? Islamic rulers forcefully converted millions of innocent people in India. They also killed millions of innocent people for not converting to Islam. D'Souza' ancestors probably converted out of fear of death.
I guess ruling northern India peacefully includes the massacres in which Muslims slaughtered the families and children of Sikhs and sent their mutilated bodies home to the Punjab on a train. The train pulled up and there was blood running out the doors and hacked up body parts everywhere - literally full of mutilated bodies so that when the family members came to meet their loved ones at the train they had to fish through body parts to find their pieces. Oh! Maybe thats hat he meant - PIECEFULL.
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"Blah blah context blah blah look more deeply." He did, he wrote books, he's citing names. You can't just trot out precanned pap like that and expect it to drown out rational statements. D'Souza could have been replaced by a randomised PR flak speak 'n spell: he had no orientation to the discussion.
Yes, we have a distorted image of the west in Arab media, but it's NOT because of the "cultural left", it's because it's in the INTEREST of every Arab repressive ruler. These interest are then exported through Saudi/Egyptian Islamic scholars to the non-Arab Muslims. Stop blaming yourselves for everything and kick some Jihadi butt instead.
I agree with Mr. D'souza that the left in this are exporting disgusting and horrible, horrible values. But his assertions that its their fault is ridiculous. Spencer is right on.
I'm surprised to hear D'Souza spouting such nonsense. Robert Spencer destroyed his arguments with surgical precision.
JekyllBoote 3 years ago 29
correct me if im wrong but isnt the islamic invasion of india one of the biggest holocausts of all times but never mentioned anywhere.
mindbreak76 3 years ago 42
I would have to say that Mr. D'Souza doesn't have a clue about the theory of abrogation which claims that if a peaceful verse was revealed earlier, and a violent one was revealed later then the peaceful verse is repealed
vidhead85 3 years ago 13
The idea of peaceful Islamic rulers tolerating the religious beliefs of those they ruled is a blatant falsehood. The leaders in question were hardly pious Muslims; rather they were secular ones who engaged in such tolerance as a means to secure their own political control. These periods of peace and "tolerance" were always preceded by those of mass slaughter, forced conversion and enslavement at the hands of rampaging Islamic armies. D'Souza got his shit rocked by Spencer big time.
UserUK201 3 years ago 16
Timur himself recorded the invasions in his memoirs
, and in the course of one hour the heads of 10,000 infidels were cut off. The sword of Islam was washed in the blood of the infidels, and all the goods and effects, the treasure and the grain which for many a long year had been stored in the fort became the spoil of my soldiers. All these infidel Hindus were slain, their women and children,
custard928 3 years ago 4
Dinesh D'Souza came out of this debate looking like a fool. His reasoning was shallow and he doesn't seem to be as knowledgeable in depth about the koran as Robert Spencer. I also read that many Muslim scholars refused to debate Robert Spencer because of fear of debating someone of Robert Spencer's erudition.
tacotony24 3 years ago 11
Robert tore this guy apart.
Amanb1001 5 years ago 48
Muslims ruled northern India peacefully? Is this guy fuckin kidding me? Islamic rulers forcefully converted millions of innocent people in India. They also killed millions of innocent people for not converting to Islam. D'Souza' ancestors probably converted out of fear of death.
D'Souza's a fucking liar.
Amanb1001 5 years ago 45
I guess ruling northern India peacefully includes the massacres in which Muslims slaughtered the families and children of Sikhs and sent their mutilated bodies home to the Punjab on a train. The train pulled up and there was blood running out the doors and hacked up body parts everywhere - literally full of mutilated bodies so that when the family members came to meet their loved ones at the train they had to fish through body parts to find their pieces. Oh! Maybe thats hat he meant - PIECEFULL.
carolineislands 3 years ago 6
hey ATLAS everybody including Robert Spencer's EX-wife says that u were fucking him&that u are the reason Robert Spencer's wife got divorced from him,its werll-known in certain circles that u are his fuck slut,we shall put up very interesting videos of u both soon,Robert Spencer's wife has been very cooperative&a lovely person by the way,
peace2peace 5 years ago
"Blah blah context blah blah look more deeply." He did, he wrote books, he's citing names. You can't just trot out precanned pap like that and expect it to drown out rational statements. D'Souza could have been replaced by a randomised PR flak speak 'n spell: he had no orientation to the discussion.
blampow 5 years ago 2
I had no idea Mr D'Souza is so ignorant about Islam.
islamophobic 5 years ago 17
Yeah, you would think someone from India would know first hand the evils of the religion.
My jaws hit the floor when I watched this disgusting display of stupidity from such a beautiful mind.
prophetofdoom 5 years ago
Yes, we have a distorted image of the west in Arab media, but it's NOT because of the "cultural left", it's because it's in the INTEREST of every Arab repressive ruler. These interest are then exported through Saudi/Egyptian Islamic scholars to the non-Arab Muslims. Stop blaming yourselves for everything and kick some Jihadi butt instead.
IbnIllLathinah 5 years ago
I agree with Mr. D'souza that the left in this are exporting disgusting and horrible, horrible values. But his assertions that its their fault is ridiculous. Spencer is right on.
Sonogong42 5 years ago 6
Islamist "values" are worse than any leftist lunacy. So they should be thankful for such a great treasure. lol
VonStierlitz 5 years ago
Spencer really did Knock Out D'Souza!
Craig805 5 years ago 6