Not one sign of life anywhere but right here on Earth..if Evolution was fact..there would be all kinds of life teaming on every planet..probly looking deffrent than ourse but not by much...so why are all the thousands of planets we study each year found lifeless when they say its possible some could sustain life ? maybe because Gods created have not colonized it yet ? kinda says it all..First life has to be created..otherwise you are tryng to pull life out of thin air.
Even as a Christian i first believed in some kind of Evolution..basically cause that what we are taught in School..But when we have robots that go to mars,and humans to the moon and hundreds of satilite probes that orbit other planets..and Knowing they say everything started with a Bigbang...we we have life all over earth..But we can't even find a living microb on another planet..we shuold have all evolved together..There is water on the Moon,Mars and other planets..but not a sign or microb
@ilovejesus692 "the reason why they beleive in that false evolution is becuase they dont wanna serve God .isnt it obvious?" => wrong, millions of Christians believe in both evolution theory and God. In fact, statistics show near 100% of those who have completed post-secondary biology training accept evolution theory. Do you have post-secondary biology training? I don't think so. Maybe you should go back to college and study more before you criticize evolution.
@vain911 i actually thought they did a pretty good job, although when debating on evolution, yea, Richard Dawkins would totally own their ass. These people in the end simply do not know enough about biology to debate on evolution.
@Casshyr they were okay,I mean you basically know what kind questions there going to ask...I would have an automatic power point ready...its like a football game or any other sport. you have to study your team..there tactics are always the same..if you watched way of master..or Kent hovin..you have there basic theology.
I feel bad... they're getting clowned so bad. Please christians... find someone who has half a brain... oh... it's not about having intelligence or not... it's impossible to defend something that just doesn't make any sense from the very first page of the bible.
@gorilla199uncensored Fairy tale? How old are you, 12? I have no interest to debate an ignorant, uneducated, and self-proclaimed know-it-all like yourself. Listen carefully now, there is no other manuscript on the face of the planet as historically backed and proved as the New Testament of the Bible. There are +20 thousand manuscripts written before antiquity that span 2 thousand years. The next most accurate document is Homer's Illiad with 600 manuscripts.
@gorilla199uncensored Wow, you sure showed me...All you have presented is hearsay and personal opinion. I am not threatened by your argument in any way. Perhaps you could take a debate class.
@gorilla199uncensored Are you speaking in code? How am I to make any sense of what you just wrote? You must be one of those people who talk and talk just to hear their own voice.
@alphaenemy Do I know you? Unless you are a stalker, you have no idea who I am or where I've been. If you are a stalker, know that I have a 12 guage under my bed. You tell me I need school. You, Sir, need to fill up that empty vessel that sits on your shoulders. The only reason you deny the existence of God is because there is nothing in the universe that scares you more than the possibility of a Judge.
@dec4dence I'm not interested in stalking you. PUT THE GUN DOWN...ok...u ok? I'm good...u good? Cheers, ok, so thanks for deciding for me why I "deny the existence of" your silly deity, but you're very misinformed. I simply see reality and then read the writings of the religious and say, "hmm...no lakes of fire, no splitting of seas, no people rising from the dead, no healing, no talking bushes or snakes, just a bunch of weird, silly stories". Seems more likely the words of just dudes.
@alphaenemy Wow, nice one. Yes, I'm actually holding a gun to my computer screen in attempt to threaten you. You have that exactly right... I've got a question for you. What do you do with your guilt? We all have it.
@alphaenemy I'm saying if there is no God, we would have no guilt. We would feel no accountability for our actions. If there is no authority over us, we should be able to do whatever we want right? What if burning down people's houses is part of who I am. Does anyone have a right to challenge me on it if there is no such thing as moral accountability? Guilt is in everyone. Some use religion to justify the actions that cause guilt, but this is not the case of the true believer.
@dec4dence That's a complete argument from ignorance. You're assuming that conscience is a product of your religion, which is fallacious in so many ways. Try harder.
@dec4dence Whether conSCIENCE (please do spell it right next time, there's a big distinction between my word and what yours could possibly mean) is a product of God or religion is meaningless to me if you cannot demonstrate the validity of these supernatural claims.
@dec4dence OH, WAIT! I get it. You're pegging me as an immoral person just because I'm an atheist. Ok. Yeah, you run with that one all day, but you're pretty wrong. I actually have a pretty strong moral code because I care about people. I know the dumb Bible says we're heathens and Sodom and Gomorrah and killing babies and all kinds of stuff, but you're gonna need to find some evidence of that really quick. And good luck on that one. Hint: the Bible's wrong.
@alphaenemy Come again? You are getting very emotional. I'm no more immoral than you are, my friend. What morality you and I have left is the remnant of what God instilled in us. For what are you asking evidence? You may be implying God is unjust in killing the sinner. You and I sin against the Holy God everyday. It's only by his mercy that he doesn't strike us down. A more appropriate question would be, "Why has God withheld his wrath?" He is patient, and giving us the opportunity to return.
@dec4dence I've said nothing of your moral character. You seem interested in mine, though. I want you to show me evidence that my moral fabric is as corrupt as you'd like to believe. You're making claims of which your evidence is only Biblical. I don't believe the Bible is true. If you want me to buy that God is responsible for my morality, you need to demonstrate the validity of the supernatural claims of the Bible.
@alphaenemy Okay. Tell me, why does our entire justice system follow the example set by the Old Testament? Our laws mimic the old law down to it's core. Our morality, in the courts, is founded on the Bible. And, generally speaking, the people agree with the court's authority. So, if the law of the land is congruent with people's personal sense of right and wrong (with the exception of the scandal cases that sometimes come about), then the people's morals are also congruent with God's law.
@dec4dence Thomas Jefferson says common law as we know it today originated from the 5th century Saxons' introduction of it into England, which predated the introduction of Christianity to England by two centuries. Also, where in the Bible is gender and racial equality, anti-slavery, and animal rights issues?
@alphaenemy I don't know what history book Jefferson wrote. The rest of the world understands that English Common Law began in the 800's. I am no historian, but I believe the Book of Doom by Alfred the Great was the first standard. It was a compilation of Germanic, Christian, and Mosaic laws. That's 2/3 influences by the Hebrew God. God is not sexist in any way. "Male and female he created them in the image of God" - Genesis1:27. Unless God is against himself he is not against women. Man is.
@dec4dence Sorry, both you and I know that there are plenty of quotes in the Bible regarding woman's place as second to man, and we're not even getting into the other subjects I brought up. I'm not a fan of the Bible's morality, and you'll likely not make me one. The only real cases I see of our law being parallel to the Bible regard killing, stealing, and lying, and that makes up three of the ten commandments. Adultery can be made a case for, but 30-40% is not such a good track record.
@alphaenemy Sorry, I know of no verses that portray God as a sexist. There are plenty, however, that show men abusing women. God punishes them severely for it. God mistreating a woman would go against what He is, and he wouldn't be God if He were divided. The Ten Commandments can be seen as the root to every moral law we have today. Undoubtedly. One may have to dig for a moment, but it is evident.
@dec4dence No, merely the "golden rule". These laws are based upon not doing harm unto others that you would not want done to yourself, which has been a tenet in nearly every religious and philosophical text, including those predating Christianity. I see no evidence of the Ten Commandments being any special, divine word of morality when most of the things it commands either serve only the Christian religion or are completely trivial ideas.
1 Corinthians 11:3 *-But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman [is] the man; and the head of Christ [is] God.
8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
14:34. Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
@alphaenemy You cannot quote one verse, and accept it as a complete idea. There is history and situational information that you have left out to try and portray these as being sexist. Let me do to your words what you did to God's. "Serve only the Christian religion." See what I mean? You cannot take the part, and expect it to give complete understanding of the whole. Let me break it down for you. Eve came from Adam's side (rib). It could have been his foot, but God portrays them as equals.
@alphaenemy I have to disagree with you. I've read the Bible, and don't see where you are coming from. Do you know why God made men and women both? He did it so they could be married and procreate. If you read Ephesians 5 beginning with verse 22, you will get a good depiction of the purpose of marriage. It's to be an example of the way God loves his followers. The bride is the church (us), and the husband is to love her the way Christ loves us. Yes, it says the woman is supposed to submit, but
@alphaenemy this is assuming this is a Christian marriage, and the man is a Godly man. You see, a woman submitting to a hypocritical man will result in all the negative things you are trying to pin on Christians. There are many bad marriages out there where the woman is abused, and God does not approve. It's not about "male domination" as you may think it is. Marriage exists to bring us closer to God. It shows us how to love as God loves. Read Ecclesiastes 4:12.
9. In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; 10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. 11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
@alphaenemy Are you a female? Why are you offended by this? This idea of women not teaching is specifically in reference to teaching the Gospel. Who did satan tempt first? He tempted the woman. For whatever reason she is more susceptible to misjudgment. If this is a topic that keeps you from coming to God, I beg you not to be deterred. You are looking for an argument that does not exist.
@alphaenemy If evolution is true, the survival of the fittest is the law of the land. Why then, do we incarcerate and sometimes kill murderers? Obviously, the murderer was the fittest since it prevailed over the weaker person. If evolution were true, shouldn't rapists get a pat on the back for every woman they impregnate? They are propagating their seed. It's coarse I know, but true. We should be killing and screwing everything that walks to progress the race. Wheelchairs slow down evolution!
@dec4dence Fittest for the environment, says evolution, and the social environment does not accept those who murder its own kind, so the weaker person succumbed to the murderer, and the murderer succumbed to society. Social environment is very important to all social creatures, and those not fit for the society succumb to it. Human conscience lends social protection for its weaker members, as our evolved intelligence has learned to find potential value in the weak.
@alphaenemy Did you know animals eat their young? My cat kills mice all the time. He tortures them until they die. I watched wolves killing wolves. Why is there no justice with animals? Do apes have governments and court systems? If we are the latest and greatest design, why are the lesser creatures still thriving? How do you explain symbiotic relationships? How can something function with a half developed respiratory system, or walk on legs that are half wings? Where do you go when you die?
@dec4dence Why don't piranha kill each other? And enough with all the ridiculous questions. Read up on it, don't ask ME everything in the universe. Science has good explanations for all of those things except where one "goes" when they die, which nobody can answer definitively. I personally don't think we go anywhere. We were already dead once. We're made up of pre-dead elements, and I think we'll be post-dead elements later.
@alphaenemy Why are they ridiculous questions? Is it because you have no answer for them? You look at the commonalities in living things and see "common one celled ancestor" where I see common method of creation. I was never satisfied with a "good" scientific explanation. To me, they were all very thin, and very badly formed. That's why I sought better answers, and they are in the Bible. I know where we came from. "In the beginning God." And, I know where I am going. Evolution cannot answer.
@alphaenemy If we are animals, and there is no God. Then life is absolutely, and undeniably pointless. I may as well blow my brains out, and take a few people with me. If there is no God, and evolution is true, then Hitler was right. We should be creating a master race. See where I am going with this? Evolution propagates inherent immorality. Without God, there is no moral standard, there is no accountability, and there is no future. We are just animals. Or are we? Why do we seek eternity?
@dec4dence Why do you jump to these extreme and irrational conclusions? Why if it isn't white then it MUST be black? I don't think life is pointless. Life is awesome! And I don't think Hitler was right at all! Evolution doesn't favor a master race of any kind. Evolution doesn't favor anything except for each species to thrive in its environment, and how could human domination over everything be an example of thriving? The STRONGEST don't survive, the FITTEST do.
@alphaenemy They are not extreme conclusions, they are simply the logical ends to the evolution mind set. By definition, the master race is the fittest. I don't know what you are trying to refute. You are right in not wanting to be associated with one such as Hitler, however, Hitler was an evolutionist. Eugenics was spawned by the evolutionary theory. Eugenics was perhaps the most sinister thing ever thought up, and it's all due to evolution. Ultimately, you must come to terms with those things.
@dec4dence They are ABSOLUTELY extreme conclusions and you're furthering your dishonesty by simply implying it again. Nobody I know that you would call an "evolutionist" would ever condone that sort of thing. We call them "skinheads" and "white supremacists", not rational humanists. And though, yes, eugenics is awful, it works because evolution is true, but that does not make Hitler right or the master race the fittest. You see, were it the fittest, Nazi Germany would rule now, wouldn't it?
@alphaenemy Well for one, the master race never came about. Hitler himself wouldn't even have fit into it his own guidelines. That's besides the point. The point is this, evolution is immoral at it's foundation. It promotes elitism, selfishness, and decadence. Have you ever seen a society based on it? One could not exist on those foundations. It has no morally governing elements. I don't appreciate you calling me dishonest. I have presented nothing dishonest in this entire conversation.
@dec4dence Morality has nothing to do with the truth of evolution, which I suspect that you're understanding now. Evolution doesn't expect a society to be built upon it, it's just the explanation of how things came to be, and how things will of course continue to be. You don't WANT it to be true, but it is, and no amount of your hypotheses about what its tenets claim about what it means to society and morality will change what simply is. It doesn't imply immorality, either way.
@alphaenemy I think evolution will be a dead issue within the decade. Science, particularly genetics, is proving it wrong. Atheists rule the public school system, but they are losing power as the credibility of their beliefs is becoming shoddy.
Despite what you may have read on creationist websites, more papers are being published on molecular biology, genetics, developmental biology, evolutionary biology and palaeontology each year. The data from genetics and genomics alone have vastly improved our understanding of evolution. No, evolution will not be a "dead issue", and there is no controversy except in the eyes of a very vocal creationist minority.
@dec4dence Evolution will not be a dead issue. It's science. It works with science. Scientists use it every single day, and 99% of scientists at that. Creationism DOESN'T work with science. Evolution will die when there is a suitable replacement argument that works, but there probably will never be. There are two fields here, one are scientists who are USING evolution, and religious people who keep yelling at them to stop using it because it's not true. It's rather funny, actually.
@alphaenemy Well, I guess that's one way to stratify it. It's a pretty immature, indefensible, and cowardly way to do it, but whatever. I could just as easily say Creationism does work with science, and evolution is an outdated, unproven, illogical, and dead end theory that has nothing to do with science. And anyone who believes evolution is dumber than a bag of hammers. Where did you get 99% of scientists? Are you a scientist researcher? Explain to me how evolution is science, and how ID isnt.
@dec4dence Science is that which is consistent, parsimonious, useful, empirically testable and falsifiable, based on multiple observations, often in the form of controlled, repeated experiments, correctable and dynamic (modified in the light of observations that do not support it), progressive, and provisional or tentative (is open to experimental checking, and does not assert certainty). Evolution is all of these. ID is none.
@alphaenemy Another one bites the hook. Damn bro. Get some perspective. I'll bet you cannot provide even once instance where evolution has been observed. I mean one with REAL empirical data. Why do you let these lies convince you so easily? I pray God reveals himself to you before the end.
@dec4dence Oh, there are lots! While studying the genetics of the evening primrose, Oenothera lamarckiana, de Vries (1905) found an unusual variant among his plants. O. lamarckiana has a chromosome number of 2N = 14. The variant had a chromosome number of 2N = 28. He found that he was unable to breed this variant with O. lamarckiana. He named this new species O. gigas.
@dec4dence Actually, if you go to a website called The Evolution List (I'm sure you've learned how to use a search engine, as this place doesn't allow links), there are many examples! Enjoy :)
@alphaenemy I didn't ask for a website. I asked YOU specifically for a empirical data of evolution being observed. You cannot provide this? Can you not provide one scrap of reviewed and proven data that gives proof of evolution? Don't for get now, it needs to be empirical data. Not a random fossil that some guy built in his garage in 1967, or a little quote from Dawkins about a lizard being moved to an island and developing stomach valves. Something real, and tangible.
@dec4dence I posted one before I posted the website, but I'll just PM it again. Either way, the website has numerous examples of exactly what you're asking, and I can quote them for you, but I'll have to do it in PM because of character limits here. I love how sure you are that you've reached that "gotcha" moment, but no, there are lots of instances of observed speciation. Kent told you there isn't, but he lied. This is really cool stuff! You should look into it. Very interesting data.
@gregrutz Do you expect me to accept bullshit 17 year old data as fact? You need to learn how to present arguments. I don't know what to make of this. Are you trying to paraphrase an experiment? Is it some kind of time line? Whatever this thing was, it obviously was not repeatable since it happened so long ago. Therefore, it is only evidence of a failed experiment. Do me a favor, and keep quiet until an ape gives birth to a human child, or wings sprout from a lizard.
@gregrutz Wow, dude. Just wow. "Apes give birth to humans all the time." The only thing that must be happening all the time is you smoking crack. What lizards have feathers genius? If they do, are they attached to wings? You, whoever you are, are a freaking retard. Do not expect me to respond to anymore of your comments because they aren't even worth reading.
@gregrutz You said, "And they have over 20 lizards with feathers." You named two dinosaurs, smart guy. What a typical darwinist shyster. Who are "they", and where are their 20 feathered lizards? Also, how would a feathered lizard prove evolution in any way? Give me some observable data like a bird hatching from a lizard egg.
@gregrutz Wow again. You are very good at avoiding questions. All it proves is you can't answer them. Do not attempt to insult me with such insanity as the theory of evolution. You debase yourself by upholding such tax payer funded propaganda. Go have sex with an ape. You are convinced you are related to them, so there's no harm in it. See you later crack head.
How very Christian of you. Now instead of pointlessly throwing insults, how about you state exactly the grounds on which you reject something the entire scientific community, supported by 300yrs of empirically gathered evidence, assert as fact? What do you know that has remained undisclosed to every credible biologist on earth, & why haven't you submitted your work for peer review, published your findings, & collected your Nobel Prize?
@playd76 This is your video, correct? I've littered your comment page with answers to your question. If you don't care to read them I'll respond with this. I reject evolution on the basis of the knowledge provided by the Bible, an undefeated champion of Truth. You make a bold and false claim in associating evolution with science and fact. You are unaware that many, many, many scientists believe in the creator, Jesus. God is the only truth, and my faith is in Him. Not in fallible man.
"I reject evolution on the basis of the knowledge provided by the Bible, an undefeated champion of Truth. "
LOL so the world is 6000 years old, doesnt move, sits on pillars, will last forever, as the sun goes around it, where 900 year old noah built his pyhsically impossible boat and yiour god slaughtered babies?
You going to tell me 2 dead doves cure leprosy? LOL
@dec4dence If you don't put faith in fallible man, why do you then put faith in a book written by the hands of fallible men? You are as contradictory as the bible itself.
You are also twisting the truth about scientists. Around 7% believe in a personal God. Look it up, it's fact. Now, this 7% in terms of the number of people will seem high. It's definitely weird that they can still have this belief, yet have a career in science SUPPORTING evolution.
@iz2sicc First, you need to take those cocks out of your ears. They are impacting your hearing. Somehow you've missed the biggest fight against the Bible since it came out, which is over its credibility. Thousands of men wiser and smarter than you or I have attacked and defended it. It still stands as perfect and true. The only way a massive document could be written by a bucket full of authors over thousands of years and still maintain continuity is if God's hand was in it. Evolution fails.
@dec4dence Do you always think about cocks being inside of men's ears? Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against gay people so don't be afraid.
And no... the ONLY reason the bibles maintain continuity is because of religious zealots like yourself. Let's not forget the fact that over hundreds of years, people were being tortured or sentenced to painful deaths like burning at the stake for going against this GOD DAMN BOOK. Keep believing your fairy tales.
@iz2sicc A cock is a plug. Get your head out of the gutter. Your statement about zealots maintaining the Bible is completely subjective, and holds no water. That is a desperate defense. If you are referring the Catholic church's abuse of the Bible I completely agree with you. I don't like Catholic theology. I consider it a religion descending from Babylonian beliefs. Do not forget that most of those they tortured were Christians who challenged the papal authority, and other Catholic nonsense.
@dec4dence Sorry, that would be a pretty common mistake for any American. Also, I get these weird "cock" insults from religious people. They seem to have this fixation on Gays. Why don't you like Catholic theology? They believe in the same God and Jesus as you.
@iz2sicc I haven't said a word about gays, so I don't really know where you're coming from. I have no reason to dislike them personally. However, I don't agree with homosexuality on a moral level. I don't like catholic theology because it is mainly used as a tool to control people and grant power to a few individuals. Having a pope is unbiblical, priestly abstinence may be a personal choice but it's not required in the Bible. Basically, the entire authority structure of the Catholic church cont.
is unfounded. All the robes, alter boys, golden candle stands, and holy water comes from man made tradition. Praying to Mary is wrong. Purgatory doesn't exist, and confession to a priest accounts for nothing. Jesus said, "I am the way the truth and the life. No man comes to the father except through me." John 14:6. That being said, I know many people come to believe Jesus through the Catholic church. However, God does not give them faith because of Catholicism, it's given in spite of it.
If your god was real there simply wouldn't be 30,000 denominations of Christianity let alone any of the other countless faiths. You're simply exchanging one myth with another. If only you demonstrated the same amount of scepticism for your own beliefs.
@playd76 I've never heard of 30k denominations. I've heard of ten perhaps, maybe less. Where did you get such a high number? I really don't see what point you are trying to make, so I am at a loss as to how to respond to it. All I'm seeing from you is emotionally driven jargon. There's no reason, no weighed logic, no tangible argument in it at all.
@dec4dence Endogenous Retroviruses (ERVs) are lingering remnants of failed viral infection, which occurred in an ancestor's sex cell and got propagated in its offspring. The viral insertion site is completely random and finding one in the same location in two individuals indicates they each had that same ancestor. Humans and chimps have 98,000 ERV in the exact same location.
@alphaenemy You know what I think is funny? This has never been an argument to determine which side is more scientific, it's been an argument to remove God from society. Evolutionists and atheists will do anything, and say anything as long as it defaces God. They ultimately do not give a rat's ass about their origins. They simply cannot bear the idea of living under God. This is the result of pride. The thing about pride is it doesn't last. Cancer and a bad back will strip it in a heartbeat.
@dec4dence HUGE straw man. I don't know anyone who is really trying to remove any religion from society. It's an argument to keep religion out of science, where it doesn't work. You're just imagining the reasons and have no way to back up your claim.
@dec4dence More to the point, evolution says some things about human morality, in the way that we've evolved as social creatures, and doing harm to one another is negatively detrimental to humanity. Do piranha kill each other? Not usually. It's better for the species that they don't, and that we don't. It is a morally governing element at its core. The bible doesn't say anything about child abuse or rape, does it? We've decided it's wrong. We've discerned the victims.
@alphaenemy I've never read darwin's book, but I'd be interested to find out what he thought about morality. To me, it seems that a chain of random mutations is completely without structure where morality has complete structure. The two are innately different. Yes, the Bible talks about those things. Luke 17:2 says it would be better for someone to drown themselves with a rock tied around their neck than to cause a child to sin, and rape is prevalent in Genesis and Deuteronomy.
« Why then, do we incarcerate and sometimes kill murderers? »
Because there's no reason for us to sit down and let nature do its thing. If we did that, we'd still be living in caves, hunting and gathering, and not trying to improve on the human condition.
« the murderer was the fittest since it prevailed over the weaker person »
And yet his actions are detrimental to the survival of the group as a whole, and the majority of the individuals within. Individuals that act peacefully towards those they cohabitate their niche with have a larger chance for survival than individuals that do not. It would therefore stand to reason that an individual that violates that paradigm is cast out, in order to better the chances of survival of the rest.
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The Big Bang is the creation of the UNIVERSE, not earth, and not evolution. There wasn't some big explosion and then earth magically apeared with water, oxygen, and other essential components for life on earth along with all the animals.
@Rookerw Uhm, no. Its been shown that the universe did have a beginning and that is have not always existed. The big bang created matter, and the universe.
@gorilla199uncensored No. The universe had a beginning. The universe was not always here. Before the big bang there was nothing. Therefore the big bang created time, matter, and energy.
@repticman123 You just said that there was nothing before the big bang. How can nothing make a bang, and create everything? A child can not be expected to believe such stupidity.
How did these four clowns make it on TV to debate stuff they know nothing about? It was basically, people trying to sell their pathetic views without any foundational knowledge behind it.
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Fundamental Logic 101. A commitment to the truth (the only sane choice), inherently expands to include all possibilities. Arbitrary dismissal of a possibility, breaches that commitment as a fatal logic error, proving themselves fundamentally liars & frauds. When Atheist/Satanists dismiss the possibility of God, they breach their commitment to the truth, resulting in the mindfucked insanity to argue justifying a lie, is rational behavior.
Dr. Simon Greenleaf, Royal Professor of Law Harvard University, was one of the greatest legal minds in history. He wrote, A Treatise on the Law of Evidence, considered one of the greatest legal works ever written. Dr.Greenleaf, was a devout Jewish man who believed the Resurrection of Jesus Christ was a hoax. He was determined, to expose the "myth" of the Resurrection. After thoroughly examining the evidence, Dr.Greenleaf came to the exact opposite conclusion & became Christian.
An Examination of the Testimony of the Four Evangelists by the Rules of Evidence Administered in the Courts of Justice, Dr. Greeleaf emphatically stated:
"it was IMPOSSIBLE that the apostles could have persisted in affirming the truths they had narrated, had not JESUS CHRIST ACTUALLY RISEN FROM THE DEAD, . . ."
(Simon Greenleaf, An Examination of the Testimony of the Four Evangelists by the Rules of Evidence Administered in the Courts of Justice, p.29).
@waketheoblivious Bullshit! Dr. Greenleaf lived in the 19th fucking century! This was before modern science opened the boundaries of knowledge! Furthermore, he was an evangelical, NOT a secularist, which completely gives him a bias and voids his statement.
Do you honestly think this man's opinion is enough "evidence" of God's existence? Grow the fuck up.
His book on Evidenciary Law is still in use today. Next time, rather then post another display of your absolute ignorance, having expressed an opinion on a book you never read, actually read the book. As is, your insanity compels you to post the pathological lies of an egotistical maniac.
@waketheoblivious "Insanity", eh? It doesn't matter if the man was a genius, his views on Christianity are completely lacking evidencial support. You can't seem to grasp this fact. Newton was a theist, but this doesn't take away from nor enhance his theory of gravitation in any way. These men weren't remembered for their unimpressive theological arguments, but for their secular achievments.
Still no word on any REAL evidence for your God. You're just beating round the bush.
Economics is a Social Science, generally taught in the College of Liberal Arts. The Physical Sciences are in that same College. Economics, proved the existence of the "Invisible Hand". Adam Smith's Classical Economic Theory, including the Laws of Supply & Demand are Natural Laws proven true & correct. Clasical, Keynesian, NeoClassical and now drifting to Austrian Theory, will inevitably return to Classical once again. Why, Classical Theory has been proven true, over and over. God exists.
Classical Economic Theory, proved the Laws of Supply and Demand, Principle of Self-Interest and Existence of the "Invisible Hand" aka "God". Morons have been trying now for almost 300 years, to disprove Classical Economics. Evolution has been trying for 100 years to find a legitimate "missing link", to prove an Evil Illusion. In order to prove Evolution correct, would have to disprove Classical Economic Theory. Impossible, but the insane keep trying. Satanic Self-Interest.
@waketheoblivious I'm going to stop now because I just realized how futile it is trying to argue with you people. It would probably hurt your ego anyways, you know, being scientifically educated. Have a nice day.
Laughable ignorance. Royal Professor Dr. Simon Greenleaf, Harvard Law School wrote the book on Evidenciary Law that is still in use today. A Treatise on the Law of Evidence, is considered one of the greatest legal volumes ever written.
@redshark618 You are breathing air, typing on a computer, and sitting on a chair that's resting on a planet spinning at 22k miles per hour. How is that not evidence of God the creator? Open your eyes and weigh the possibilities, man.
@dec4dence Except that we know where oxygen comes from. And we know that the earth revolves because of gravity. And we know that god didn't invent computers. Seems to me, that God the creator wasn't involved in any of those things.
@redshark618 What are you talking about dude? You have the most random comment ever. I know where oxygen comes from too. God made it. What's your explanation for it? It came from nothing right? What a joke. Only a moron would fall for that. You insult yourself for believing in something that is completely fallible. Have some self worth man. Seek out Truth.
Read the fucking chat log before posting your fucking ignorance. Great, another Satanic Nazi Shill camping Evolution Atheist videos promoting their Godforsaken lifestyle as part of a highly orchestrated group, all interlinked with homepage friend's lists swimming in Satanic symbolism. Some participating have admitted being active duty milititary UN forces paid to post these attacks as a crime against humanity.
Whether one chooses to un/consciously worship Satan, the poisonous affect on humanity is the same. Atheists/Satanists, both breech their fundamental commitment to the truth (only sane choice) which inherently expands to include all possibilities. When an Atheist/Satanist arbitrarily chooses to abandon the possibility of God, they breech their fundamental commitment as a fatal logic error. What defines being a Christian? Certainly not a mere claim of being Christian.
@waketheoblivious "Whether one chooses to un/consciously worship Satan"
Fairy tales bore me. Your religion was dull when Magic Man was called Ahura Mazda and the big bad guy was Angra Mainyu. Do you have any evidence your god exists?
Do you even understand how ignorant your question is since it has long been known people can not prove God does not exist, not can they prove God does exist using scientific reasoning and logic. Science uses objective reasoning and logic to avoid the pitfalls of emotional subjective reasoning which leads to arbitrary dismissal of possibilities. For you to even have asked that question is a public display of ignorance. Either you sustained your commitment or you didn't, period.
@waketheoblivious I think that by equating your imaginary friend to other works of human creation, it is obvious that your religion is a work of fiction. Not only is it fiction, it is bad fiction. Science outright disproves the creation myth, noah's flood, the jews slavery in egypt, as well as many aspects of Jesus' myth.
You offer no evidence to support your claims and claims without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
i want to correct kirk because i don't want his bullshit believed by anyone..there is no difference between micro and macro evolution..the only thing that separates them is time..very small changes (micro) over very long time frames, becomes large change. (macro)..this doesn't need to be observed directly. we observe these small changes, and we know the earth is 4.5 billion years old. it's inevitable that the accumulation of these small changes will lead to great biological diversity.
oh man..how is this complicated?..there IS a basis!..the basis is the comfortable and efficient survival of society. yet, there still are people who murder, rape, steal, harm, etc..this isn't because they don't follow god, it's because there are anti-social, self-centered people out there. it's as simple as that..morality has a simple origin, but has developed into a very complex system.
Damn, there are some poor thinkers on both sides of this argument. . . If John Paul II were still alive the perfect debate would be between him and Richard Dawkins
EVOLUTION IS CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sk8terules 15 hours ago
That women is extremely hot.
Radiohead4121 2 weeks ago
Not one sign of life anywhere but right here on Earth..if Evolution was fact..there would be all kinds of life teaming on every planet..probly looking deffrent than ourse but not by much...so why are all the thousands of planets we study each year found lifeless when they say its possible some could sustain life ? maybe because Gods created have not colonized it yet ? kinda says it all..First life has to be created..otherwise you are tryng to pull life out of thin air.
Revivalkingdom 2 weeks ago in playlist bible-tube.com creation evolution debates
@Revivalkingdom - "if Evolution was fact..there would be all kinds of life teaming on every planet"
Nope. That statement is as false as it is an egregious misunderstanding of biology, evolution, astronomy and, well, logic
DJCailler 2 weeks ago
Even as a Christian i first believed in some kind of Evolution..basically cause that what we are taught in School..But when we have robots that go to mars,and humans to the moon and hundreds of satilite probes that orbit other planets..and Knowing they say everything started with a Bigbang...we we have life all over earth..But we can't even find a living microb on another planet..we shuold have all evolved together..There is water on the Moon,Mars and other planets..but not a sign or microb
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Damn...she's pretty hot...annoying voice...but pretty hot
sykregen784 1 month ago
Good controlled comparison, very entertaining and informative to watch.
Triggitius 1 month ago
Good argument, very fun to watch.
Triggitius 1 month ago
the reason why they beleive in that false evolution is becuase they dont wanna serve God .isnt it obvious?
ilovejesus692 2 months ago
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@ilovejesus692 "the reason why they beleive in that false evolution is becuase they dont wanna serve God .isnt it obvious?" => wrong, millions of Christians believe in both evolution theory and God. In fact, statistics show near 100% of those who have completed post-secondary biology training accept evolution theory. Do you have post-secondary biology training? I don't think so. Maybe you should go back to college and study more before you criticize evolution.
Casshyr 1 month ago
I would totally due that chick.
ofSaturday 2 months ago
damn...the rational response sucks....they are not good debaters...
vain911 2 months ago
@vain911 i actually thought they did a pretty good job, although when debating on evolution, yea, Richard Dawkins would totally own their ass. These people in the end simply do not know enough about biology to debate on evolution.
Casshyr 2 months ago
@Casshyr they were okay,I mean you basically know what kind questions there going to ask...I would have an automatic power point ready...its like a football game or any other sport. you have to study your team..there tactics are always the same..if you watched way of master..or Kent hovin..you have there basic theology.
vain911 2 months ago
Whenever I see/watch clips such as this, I oh so want Hitchens to wander on and Hitchslap the believers.
MattSingh1 2 months ago
I feel bad... they're getting clowned so bad. Please christians... find someone who has half a brain... oh... it's not about having intelligence or not... it's impossible to defend something that just doesn't make any sense from the very first page of the bible.
chicarbiomed 3 months ago
@InGodsDefense
Please don't come here touting for channel views & subscriptions, such comments will be removed. If you wish to comment then stick to the topic.
playd76 4 months ago
Did anyone ever tell Crocoduck Boy he does not understand what a transitional fossil is?
gregrutz 4 months ago
@gregrutz Do You?
dec4dence 4 months ago
Thumbs up if you'd hit that.
MysteryoftheGods 4 months ago
Kelly is quite an eyefull. Thats all I have to say.
bdrasin 4 months ago
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Kelly's quite an eyefull. Thats all I have to say.
bdrasin 4 months ago
Kelly's quite an eyefull. Thats all I have to say.
bdrasin 4 months ago
those tits are RIDICULOUS!
santosscribbles 4 months ago
I'd love to see Ray and Kirk in a debate with Dawkins and Hitchens and for them to be Rich and Hitch slapped silly.
Zed1967 5 months ago
Atheists never answered the question about the origin of morality. They have no answer.
dec4dence 5 months ago
@dec4dence
"Atheists never answered the question about the origin of morality."
Morality is decided by the group, thats why the people who wrote the fairy tale of your religious book have morals that you would not agree with.
gorilla199uncensored 5 months ago
@gorilla199uncensored Fairy tale? How old are you, 12? I have no interest to debate an ignorant, uneducated, and self-proclaimed know-it-all like yourself. Listen carefully now, there is no other manuscript on the face of the planet as historically backed and proved as the New Testament of the Bible. There are +20 thousand manuscripts written before antiquity that span 2 thousand years. The next most accurate document is Homer's Illiad with 600 manuscripts.
dec4dence 5 months ago
@dec4dence
"Fairy tale?"
BIBLE
"there is no other manuscript on the face of the planet as historically backed and proved as the New Testament of the Bible. "
LOL why doesnt it surprise me a bible pretender whould say this lie.
Yet it claims so many stupid things!
6000 year old plate/bowl shaped earth, that doesnt move, sits on pillars as the sun "travels" (orig hebrew) around it, it will last forever NO.
Ark and flood fairy tale? NO
Tower of bable fairy tale? NO
etc etc etc
gorilla199uncensored 5 months ago
@gorilla199uncensored Wow, you sure showed me...All you have presented is hearsay and personal opinion. I am not threatened by your argument in any way. Perhaps you could take a debate class.
dec4dence 5 months ago
@dec4dence
"All you have presented is hearsay and personal opinion."
What are you talking about
The disproof of the ark/floood myth?
Are you claiming man was cretaed 6000 years ago or deny what the buybull says.
"Perhaps you could take a debate class."
Interesting coming from the cretarad who says "im right your wrong" you also need to take some science classes.
Dont want to answer those questions about the buybull, its because you are too smart to try and defend them?
gorilla199uncensored 5 months ago
@gorilla199uncensored Are you speaking in code? How am I to make any sense of what you just wrote? You must be one of those people who talk and talk just to hear their own voice.
dec4dence 5 months ago
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@dec4dence
"How am I to make any sense of what you just wrote? "
I know you are an ignorant uneducated xtian, but you should be able to understand simple english.
But you dont want to answer the questions about your bible, is that because you know irts crap and dont want too look stupid defending it?
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dec4dence 5 months ago
@dec4dence You listen to Christians and nobody else, and you'll come to that conclusion. You need school.
alphaenemy 4 months ago
@alphaenemy Do I know you? Unless you are a stalker, you have no idea who I am or where I've been. If you are a stalker, know that I have a 12 guage under my bed. You tell me I need school. You, Sir, need to fill up that empty vessel that sits on your shoulders. The only reason you deny the existence of God is because there is nothing in the universe that scares you more than the possibility of a Judge.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence I'm not interested in stalking you. PUT THE GUN DOWN...ok...u ok? I'm good...u good? Cheers, ok, so thanks for deciding for me why I "deny the existence of" your silly deity, but you're very misinformed. I simply see reality and then read the writings of the religious and say, "hmm...no lakes of fire, no splitting of seas, no people rising from the dead, no healing, no talking bushes or snakes, just a bunch of weird, silly stories". Seems more likely the words of just dudes.
alphaenemy 4 months ago
@alphaenemy Wow, nice one. Yes, I'm actually holding a gun to my computer screen in attempt to threaten you. You have that exactly right... I've got a question for you. What do you do with your guilt? We all have it.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence Accept it and make concessions where I can. Why? So what if we all have a conscience? You gonna give the credit to God, now?
alphaenemy 4 months ago
@alphaenemy I'm saying if there is no God, we would have no guilt. We would feel no accountability for our actions. If there is no authority over us, we should be able to do whatever we want right? What if burning down people's houses is part of who I am. Does anyone have a right to challenge me on it if there is no such thing as moral accountability? Guilt is in everyone. Some use religion to justify the actions that cause guilt, but this is not the case of the true believer.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence That's a complete argument from ignorance. You're assuming that conscience is a product of your religion, which is fallacious in so many ways. Try harder.
alphaenemy 4 months ago
@alphaenemy Not so. I'm saying conscious is the product of God. An explanation would go a long way with your meaningless accusation.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence Whether conSCIENCE (please do spell it right next time, there's a big distinction between my word and what yours could possibly mean) is a product of God or religion is meaningless to me if you cannot demonstrate the validity of these supernatural claims.
alphaenemy 4 months ago
@dec4dence OH, WAIT! I get it. You're pegging me as an immoral person just because I'm an atheist. Ok. Yeah, you run with that one all day, but you're pretty wrong. I actually have a pretty strong moral code because I care about people. I know the dumb Bible says we're heathens and Sodom and Gomorrah and killing babies and all kinds of stuff, but you're gonna need to find some evidence of that really quick. And good luck on that one. Hint: the Bible's wrong.
alphaenemy 4 months ago
@alphaenemy Come again? You are getting very emotional. I'm no more immoral than you are, my friend. What morality you and I have left is the remnant of what God instilled in us. For what are you asking evidence? You may be implying God is unjust in killing the sinner. You and I sin against the Holy God everyday. It's only by his mercy that he doesn't strike us down. A more appropriate question would be, "Why has God withheld his wrath?" He is patient, and giving us the opportunity to return.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence I've said nothing of your moral character. You seem interested in mine, though. I want you to show me evidence that my moral fabric is as corrupt as you'd like to believe. You're making claims of which your evidence is only Biblical. I don't believe the Bible is true. If you want me to buy that God is responsible for my morality, you need to demonstrate the validity of the supernatural claims of the Bible.
alphaenemy 4 months ago
@alphaenemy Okay. Tell me, why does our entire justice system follow the example set by the Old Testament? Our laws mimic the old law down to it's core. Our morality, in the courts, is founded on the Bible. And, generally speaking, the people agree with the court's authority. So, if the law of the land is congruent with people's personal sense of right and wrong (with the exception of the scandal cases that sometimes come about), then the people's morals are also congruent with God's law.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence Thomas Jefferson says common law as we know it today originated from the 5th century Saxons' introduction of it into England, which predated the introduction of Christianity to England by two centuries. Also, where in the Bible is gender and racial equality, anti-slavery, and animal rights issues?
alphaenemy 4 months ago
@alphaenemy I don't know what history book Jefferson wrote. The rest of the world understands that English Common Law began in the 800's. I am no historian, but I believe the Book of Doom by Alfred the Great was the first standard. It was a compilation of Germanic, Christian, and Mosaic laws. That's 2/3 influences by the Hebrew God. God is not sexist in any way. "Male and female he created them in the image of God" - Genesis1:27. Unless God is against himself he is not against women. Man is.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence Sorry, both you and I know that there are plenty of quotes in the Bible regarding woman's place as second to man, and we're not even getting into the other subjects I brought up. I'm not a fan of the Bible's morality, and you'll likely not make me one. The only real cases I see of our law being parallel to the Bible regard killing, stealing, and lying, and that makes up three of the ten commandments. Adultery can be made a case for, but 30-40% is not such a good track record.
alphaenemy 4 months ago
@alphaenemy Sorry, I know of no verses that portray God as a sexist. There are plenty, however, that show men abusing women. God punishes them severely for it. God mistreating a woman would go against what He is, and he wouldn't be God if He were divided. The Ten Commandments can be seen as the root to every moral law we have today. Undoubtedly. One may have to dig for a moment, but it is evident.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence No, merely the "golden rule". These laws are based upon not doing harm unto others that you would not want done to yourself, which has been a tenet in nearly every religious and philosophical text, including those predating Christianity. I see no evidence of the Ten Commandments being any special, divine word of morality when most of the things it commands either serve only the Christian religion or are completely trivial ideas.
alphaenemy 4 months ago
1 Corinthians 11:3 *-But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman [is] the man; and the head of Christ [is] God.
8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
14:34. Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
I can easily go on.
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dec4dence 4 months ago
@alphaenemy You cannot quote one verse, and accept it as a complete idea. There is history and situational information that you have left out to try and portray these as being sexist. Let me do to your words what you did to God's. "Serve only the Christian religion." See what I mean? You cannot take the part, and expect it to give complete understanding of the whole. Let me break it down for you. Eve came from Adam's side (rib). It could have been his foot, but God portrays them as equals.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence I already told you, there are lots of verses from lots of different chapters. The Bible favors male domination, end of story.
alphaenemy 4 months ago
@alphaenemy I have to disagree with you. I've read the Bible, and don't see where you are coming from. Do you know why God made men and women both? He did it so they could be married and procreate. If you read Ephesians 5 beginning with verse 22, you will get a good depiction of the purpose of marriage. It's to be an example of the way God loves his followers. The bride is the church (us), and the husband is to love her the way Christ loves us. Yes, it says the woman is supposed to submit, but
dec4dence 4 months ago
@alphaenemy this is assuming this is a Christian marriage, and the man is a Godly man. You see, a woman submitting to a hypocritical man will result in all the negative things you are trying to pin on Christians. There are many bad marriages out there where the woman is abused, and God does not approve. It's not about "male domination" as you may think it is. Marriage exists to bring us closer to God. It shows us how to love as God loves. Read Ecclesiastes 4:12.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence 1 Timothy 2:9 - 15
9. In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; 10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. 11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
(couldn't fit the rest)
alphaenemy 4 months ago
@alphaenemy Are you a female? Why are you offended by this? This idea of women not teaching is specifically in reference to teaching the Gospel. Who did satan tempt first? He tempted the woman. For whatever reason she is more susceptible to misjudgment. If this is a topic that keeps you from coming to God, I beg you not to be deterred. You are looking for an argument that does not exist.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@alphaenemy If evolution is true, the survival of the fittest is the law of the land. Why then, do we incarcerate and sometimes kill murderers? Obviously, the murderer was the fittest since it prevailed over the weaker person. If evolution were true, shouldn't rapists get a pat on the back for every woman they impregnate? They are propagating their seed. It's coarse I know, but true. We should be killing and screwing everything that walks to progress the race. Wheelchairs slow down evolution!
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence Fittest for the environment, says evolution, and the social environment does not accept those who murder its own kind, so the weaker person succumbed to the murderer, and the murderer succumbed to society. Social environment is very important to all social creatures, and those not fit for the society succumb to it. Human conscience lends social protection for its weaker members, as our evolved intelligence has learned to find potential value in the weak.
alphaenemy 4 months ago
@alphaenemy Did you know animals eat their young? My cat kills mice all the time. He tortures them until they die. I watched wolves killing wolves. Why is there no justice with animals? Do apes have governments and court systems? If we are the latest and greatest design, why are the lesser creatures still thriving? How do you explain symbiotic relationships? How can something function with a half developed respiratory system, or walk on legs that are half wings? Where do you go when you die?
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence Why don't piranha kill each other? And enough with all the ridiculous questions. Read up on it, don't ask ME everything in the universe. Science has good explanations for all of those things except where one "goes" when they die, which nobody can answer definitively. I personally don't think we go anywhere. We were already dead once. We're made up of pre-dead elements, and I think we'll be post-dead elements later.
alphaenemy 4 months ago
@alphaenemy Why are they ridiculous questions? Is it because you have no answer for them? You look at the commonalities in living things and see "common one celled ancestor" where I see common method of creation. I was never satisfied with a "good" scientific explanation. To me, they were all very thin, and very badly formed. That's why I sought better answers, and they are in the Bible. I know where we came from. "In the beginning God." And, I know where I am going. Evolution cannot answer.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@alphaenemy If we are animals, and there is no God. Then life is absolutely, and undeniably pointless. I may as well blow my brains out, and take a few people with me. If there is no God, and evolution is true, then Hitler was right. We should be creating a master race. See where I am going with this? Evolution propagates inherent immorality. Without God, there is no moral standard, there is no accountability, and there is no future. We are just animals. Or are we? Why do we seek eternity?
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence Why do you jump to these extreme and irrational conclusions? Why if it isn't white then it MUST be black? I don't think life is pointless. Life is awesome! And I don't think Hitler was right at all! Evolution doesn't favor a master race of any kind. Evolution doesn't favor anything except for each species to thrive in its environment, and how could human domination over everything be an example of thriving? The STRONGEST don't survive, the FITTEST do.
alphaenemy 4 months ago
@alphaenemy They are not extreme conclusions, they are simply the logical ends to the evolution mind set. By definition, the master race is the fittest. I don't know what you are trying to refute. You are right in not wanting to be associated with one such as Hitler, however, Hitler was an evolutionist. Eugenics was spawned by the evolutionary theory. Eugenics was perhaps the most sinister thing ever thought up, and it's all due to evolution. Ultimately, you must come to terms with those things.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence They are ABSOLUTELY extreme conclusions and you're furthering your dishonesty by simply implying it again. Nobody I know that you would call an "evolutionist" would ever condone that sort of thing. We call them "skinheads" and "white supremacists", not rational humanists. And though, yes, eugenics is awful, it works because evolution is true, but that does not make Hitler right or the master race the fittest. You see, were it the fittest, Nazi Germany would rule now, wouldn't it?
alphaenemy 4 months ago
@alphaenemy Well for one, the master race never came about. Hitler himself wouldn't even have fit into it his own guidelines. That's besides the point. The point is this, evolution is immoral at it's foundation. It promotes elitism, selfishness, and decadence. Have you ever seen a society based on it? One could not exist on those foundations. It has no morally governing elements. I don't appreciate you calling me dishonest. I have presented nothing dishonest in this entire conversation.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence Morality has nothing to do with the truth of evolution, which I suspect that you're understanding now. Evolution doesn't expect a society to be built upon it, it's just the explanation of how things came to be, and how things will of course continue to be. You don't WANT it to be true, but it is, and no amount of your hypotheses about what its tenets claim about what it means to society and morality will change what simply is. It doesn't imply immorality, either way.
alphaenemy 4 months ago
@alphaenemy I think evolution will be a dead issue within the decade. Science, particularly genetics, is proving it wrong. Atheists rule the public school system, but they are losing power as the credibility of their beliefs is becoming shoddy.
dec4dence 4 months ago
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@dec4dence
Despite what you may have read on creationist websites, more papers are being published on molecular biology, genetics, developmental biology, evolutionary biology and palaeontology each year. The data from genetics and genomics alone have vastly improved our understanding of evolution. No, evolution will not be a "dead issue", and there is no controversy except in the eyes of a very vocal creationist minority.
XGralgrathor 4 months ago
@dec4dence Evolution will not be a dead issue. It's science. It works with science. Scientists use it every single day, and 99% of scientists at that. Creationism DOESN'T work with science. Evolution will die when there is a suitable replacement argument that works, but there probably will never be. There are two fields here, one are scientists who are USING evolution, and religious people who keep yelling at them to stop using it because it's not true. It's rather funny, actually.
alphaenemy 4 months ago
@alphaenemy Well, I guess that's one way to stratify it. It's a pretty immature, indefensible, and cowardly way to do it, but whatever. I could just as easily say Creationism does work with science, and evolution is an outdated, unproven, illogical, and dead end theory that has nothing to do with science. And anyone who believes evolution is dumber than a bag of hammers. Where did you get 99% of scientists? Are you a scientist researcher? Explain to me how evolution is science, and how ID isnt.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence Science is that which is consistent, parsimonious, useful, empirically testable and falsifiable, based on multiple observations, often in the form of controlled, repeated experiments, correctable and dynamic (modified in the light of observations that do not support it), progressive, and provisional or tentative (is open to experimental checking, and does not assert certainty). Evolution is all of these. ID is none.
alphaenemy 4 months ago
@alphaenemy Another one bites the hook. Damn bro. Get some perspective. I'll bet you cannot provide even once instance where evolution has been observed. I mean one with REAL empirical data. Why do you let these lies convince you so easily? I pray God reveals himself to you before the end.
dec4dence 4 months ago
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@dec4dence Oh, there are lots! While studying the genetics of the evening primrose, Oenothera lamarckiana, de Vries (1905) found an unusual variant among his plants. O. lamarckiana has a chromosome number of 2N = 14. The variant had a chromosome number of 2N = 28. He found that he was unable to breed this variant with O. lamarckiana. He named this new species O. gigas.
alphaenemy 4 months ago
@dec4dence Actually, if you go to a website called The Evolution List (I'm sure you've learned how to use a search engine, as this place doesn't allow links), there are many examples! Enjoy :)
alphaenemy 4 months ago
@alphaenemy I didn't ask for a website. I asked YOU specifically for a empirical data of evolution being observed. You cannot provide this? Can you not provide one scrap of reviewed and proven data that gives proof of evolution? Don't for get now, it needs to be empirical data. Not a random fossil that some guy built in his garage in 1967, or a little quote from Dawkins about a lizard being moved to an island and developing stomach valves. Something real, and tangible.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence I posted one before I posted the website, but I'll just PM it again. Either way, the website has numerous examples of exactly what you're asking, and I can quote them for you, but I'll have to do it in PM because of character limits here. I love how sure you are that you've reached that "gotcha" moment, but no, there are lots of instances of observed speciation. Kent told you there isn't, but he lied. This is really cool stuff! You should look into it. Very interesting data.
alphaenemy 4 months ago
@dec4dence Actually evolution has been observed in labs and reproduced decades ago.
Emergence of Nylon Oligomer Degradation Enzymes in
Pseudomonas aeruginosa PAO through Experimental Evolution
IRFAN D. PRIJAMBADA, SEIJI NEGORO,* TETSUYA YOMO, AND ITARU URABE
Department of Biotechnology, Faculty of Engineering, Osaka University, 2-1 Yamada-oka, Suita, Osaka 565, Japan
Received 7 November 1994/Accepted 8 February 1995
gregrutz 4 months ago
@gregrutz Do you expect me to accept bullshit 17 year old data as fact? You need to learn how to present arguments. I don't know what to make of this. Are you trying to paraphrase an experiment? Is it some kind of time line? Whatever this thing was, it obviously was not repeatable since it happened so long ago. Therefore, it is only evidence of a failed experiment. Do me a favor, and keep quiet until an ape gives birth to a human child, or wings sprout from a lizard.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence Humans are apes. So Apes give birth to humans all the time, dummy.
And they have over 20 lizards with feathers. The first one proved evolution 140 years ago.
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. ''Are you trying to paraphrase an experiment?'' You don't even know what it says, do you. LOL
gregrutz 4 months ago
@gregrutz Wow, dude. Just wow. "Apes give birth to humans all the time." The only thing that must be happening all the time is you smoking crack. What lizards have feathers genius? If they do, are they attached to wings? You, whoever you are, are a freaking retard. Do not expect me to respond to anymore of your comments because they aren't even worth reading.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence Archaeopteryx Archaeopteryx Archaeopteryx A lizard [dinosaur] with feathers.
The feathers are all over it's body. It was used to prove evolution 140 years ago.
Microraptor is another feathered dinosaur. They have over 20 dinosaurs with feathers and proto feathers.
Try and keep up with science dummy.
gregrutz 4 months ago
@gregrutz You said, "And they have over 20 lizards with feathers." You named two dinosaurs, smart guy. What a typical darwinist shyster. Who are "they", and where are their 20 feathered lizards? Also, how would a feathered lizard prove evolution in any way? Give me some observable data like a bird hatching from a lizard egg.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence how would a feathered lizard prove evolution in any way?
I will type real slow for you.
1. Birds are the only animals with feathers.
2. 70 million years ago dinosaurs lived. They had teeth and long tails. Some with teeth and tails also had Feathers.
Conclusion, this is hard, it is called logic, they were TRANSITIONAL FOSSILS. A Missing Link you creatards allways bitch about.
All birds hatch from dinosaur eggs, all birds are dinosaur. Just like all humans are still Apes.
gregrutz 4 months ago
@gregrutz Wow again. You are very good at avoiding questions. All it proves is you can't answer them. Do not attempt to insult me with such insanity as the theory of evolution. You debase yourself by upholding such tax payer funded propaganda. Go have sex with an ape. You are convinced you are related to them, so there's no harm in it. See you later crack head.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence I have sex with apes all the time, I like the blue eyed blond apes.
You are not smart enough to understand science.
gregrutz 4 months ago
@gregrutz Rather, you are not smart enough to know not to make assumptions about people you've never met in your life. Good day, moron.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence Stay in school, read a science book.
gregrutz 4 months ago
@gregrutz You're a cock. Get a life.
dec4dence 4 months ago
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@dec4dence You are a cunt, fuck off.
gregrutz 4 months ago
@dec4dence
How very Christian of you. Now instead of pointlessly throwing insults, how about you state exactly the grounds on which you reject something the entire scientific community, supported by 300yrs of empirically gathered evidence, assert as fact? What do you know that has remained undisclosed to every credible biologist on earth, & why haven't you submitted your work for peer review, published your findings, & collected your Nobel Prize?
playd76 4 months ago
@playd76 This is your video, correct? I've littered your comment page with answers to your question. If you don't care to read them I'll respond with this. I reject evolution on the basis of the knowledge provided by the Bible, an undefeated champion of Truth. You make a bold and false claim in associating evolution with science and fact. You are unaware that many, many, many scientists believe in the creator, Jesus. God is the only truth, and my faith is in Him. Not in fallible man.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence
"I reject evolution on the basis of the knowledge provided by the Bible, an undefeated champion of Truth. "
LOL so the world is 6000 years old, doesnt move, sits on pillars, will last forever, as the sun goes around it, where 900 year old noah built his pyhsically impossible boat and yiour god slaughtered babies?
You going to tell me 2 dead doves cure leprosy? LOL
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@gorilla199uncensored god and the banana done did it.................lol
FUwogs 1 month ago
@dec4dence If you don't put faith in fallible man, why do you then put faith in a book written by the hands of fallible men? You are as contradictory as the bible itself.
You are also twisting the truth about scientists. Around 7% believe in a personal God. Look it up, it's fact. Now, this 7% in terms of the number of people will seem high. It's definitely weird that they can still have this belief, yet have a career in science SUPPORTING evolution.
iz2sicc 3 months ago in playlist eeeeeeee
@iz2sicc First, you need to take those cocks out of your ears. They are impacting your hearing. Somehow you've missed the biggest fight against the Bible since it came out, which is over its credibility. Thousands of men wiser and smarter than you or I have attacked and defended it. It still stands as perfect and true. The only way a massive document could be written by a bucket full of authors over thousands of years and still maintain continuity is if God's hand was in it. Evolution fails.
dec4dence 3 months ago
@dec4dence Do you always think about cocks being inside of men's ears? Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against gay people so don't be afraid.
And no... the ONLY reason the bibles maintain continuity is because of religious zealots like yourself. Let's not forget the fact that over hundreds of years, people were being tortured or sentenced to painful deaths like burning at the stake for going against this GOD DAMN BOOK. Keep believing your fairy tales.
iz2sicc 3 months ago
@iz2sicc A cock is a plug. Get your head out of the gutter. Your statement about zealots maintaining the Bible is completely subjective, and holds no water. That is a desperate defense. If you are referring the Catholic church's abuse of the Bible I completely agree with you. I don't like Catholic theology. I consider it a religion descending from Babylonian beliefs. Do not forget that most of those they tortured were Christians who challenged the papal authority, and other Catholic nonsense.
dec4dence 3 months ago
@dec4dence Sorry, that would be a pretty common mistake for any American. Also, I get these weird "cock" insults from religious people. They seem to have this fixation on Gays. Why don't you like Catholic theology? They believe in the same God and Jesus as you.
iz2sicc 3 months ago
@iz2sicc I haven't said a word about gays, so I don't really know where you're coming from. I have no reason to dislike them personally. However, I don't agree with homosexuality on a moral level. I don't like catholic theology because it is mainly used as a tool to control people and grant power to a few individuals. Having a pope is unbiblical, priestly abstinence may be a personal choice but it's not required in the Bible. Basically, the entire authority structure of the Catholic church cont.
dec4dence 3 months ago
is unfounded. All the robes, alter boys, golden candle stands, and holy water comes from man made tradition. Praying to Mary is wrong. Purgatory doesn't exist, and confession to a priest accounts for nothing. Jesus said, "I am the way the truth and the life. No man comes to the father except through me." John 14:6. That being said, I know many people come to believe Jesus through the Catholic church. However, God does not give them faith because of Catholicism, it's given in spite of it.
dec4dence 3 months ago
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@dec4dence ''No man comes to the father except through me'' But no man can come to Jesus by going through His mother?
gregrutz 2 months ago
@dec4dence
If your god was real there simply wouldn't be 30,000 denominations of Christianity let alone any of the other countless faiths. You're simply exchanging one myth with another. If only you demonstrated the same amount of scepticism for your own beliefs.
playd76 2 months ago
@playd76 I've never heard of 30k denominations. I've heard of ten perhaps, maybe less. Where did you get such a high number? I really don't see what point you are trying to make, so I am at a loss as to how to respond to it. All I'm seeing from you is emotionally driven jargon. There's no reason, no weighed logic, no tangible argument in it at all.
dec4dence 2 months ago
@playd76 dec4dence is either a complete troll or a complete waste of oxygen.
chicarbiomed 3 months ago
@dec4dence 17 year old data as fact? NO dummy, evolution was observed 17 years ago.
Can't you read?
gregrutz 4 months ago
@dec4dence Endogenous Retroviruses (ERVs) are lingering remnants of failed viral infection, which occurred in an ancestor's sex cell and got propagated in its offspring. The viral insertion site is completely random and finding one in the same location in two individuals indicates they each had that same ancestor. Humans and chimps have 98,000 ERV in the exact same location.
Common ancestor?
gregrutz 4 months ago
@alphaenemy You know what I think is funny? This has never been an argument to determine which side is more scientific, it's been an argument to remove God from society. Evolutionists and atheists will do anything, and say anything as long as it defaces God. They ultimately do not give a rat's ass about their origins. They simply cannot bear the idea of living under God. This is the result of pride. The thing about pride is it doesn't last. Cancer and a bad back will strip it in a heartbeat.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence HUGE straw man. I don't know anyone who is really trying to remove any religion from society. It's an argument to keep religion out of science, where it doesn't work. You're just imagining the reasons and have no way to back up your claim.
alphaenemy 4 months ago
@dec4dence More to the point, evolution says some things about human morality, in the way that we've evolved as social creatures, and doing harm to one another is negatively detrimental to humanity. Do piranha kill each other? Not usually. It's better for the species that they don't, and that we don't. It is a morally governing element at its core. The bible doesn't say anything about child abuse or rape, does it? We've decided it's wrong. We've discerned the victims.
alphaenemy 4 months ago
@alphaenemy I've never read darwin's book, but I'd be interested to find out what he thought about morality. To me, it seems that a chain of random mutations is completely without structure where morality has complete structure. The two are innately different. Yes, the Bible talks about those things. Luke 17:2 says it would be better for someone to drown themselves with a rock tied around their neck than to cause a child to sin, and rape is prevalent in Genesis and Deuteronomy.
dec4dence 4 months ago
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« mutations is completely without structure »
You are ignoring selection. Selection imposes structure on random variation.
XGralgrathor 4 months ago
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« Why then, do we incarcerate and sometimes kill murderers? »
Because there's no reason for us to sit down and let nature do its thing. If we did that, we'd still be living in caves, hunting and gathering, and not trying to improve on the human condition.
XGralgrathor 4 months ago
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« the murderer was the fittest since it prevailed over the weaker person »
And yet his actions are detrimental to the survival of the group as a whole, and the majority of the individuals within. Individuals that act peacefully towards those they cohabitate their niche with have a larger chance for survival than individuals that do not. It would therefore stand to reason that an individual that violates that paradigm is cast out, in order to better the chances of survival of the rest.
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gregrutz 4 months ago
I friggin' love all the people who clapped for the atheists.
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TheServiceWeb 5 months ago
The Big Bang is the creation of the UNIVERSE, not earth, and not evolution. There wasn't some big explosion and then earth magically apeared with water, oxygen, and other essential components for life on earth along with all the animals.
repticman123 6 months ago
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Rookerw 5 months ago
@repticman123 The universe was never created; it always exist. The Big Bang was what exploited all matter known in the universe.
Rookerw 5 months ago
@Rookerw Uhm, no. Its been shown that the universe did have a beginning and that is have not always existed. The big bang created matter, and the universe.
repticman123 5 months ago
@repticman123
"The big bang created matter,"
No the big bang only changed what already existed.
gorilla199uncensored 5 months ago
@gorilla199uncensored No. The universe had a beginning. The universe was not always here. Before the big bang there was nothing. Therefore the big bang created time, matter, and energy.
repticman123 5 months ago
@repticman123 You just said that there was nothing before the big bang. How can nothing make a bang, and create everything? A child can not be expected to believe such stupidity.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence Ok, we don't really KNOW what was before the Big Bang. It could have been another universe for all we know.
repticman123 4 months ago
Oh, Kirk, when will you and all your creationist cronies learn that the Big Bang has absolutley nothing to do with evolution?
repticman123 6 months ago
Kirk and banana boy love those tits.
islamDick 6 months ago
How did these four clowns make it on TV to debate stuff they know nothing about? It was basically, people trying to sell their pathetic views without any foundational knowledge behind it.
Stitchman3875 6 months ago
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Big Bang =/= Abiogenesis =/= Evolution
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waketheoblivious 7 months ago
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Partial list of diabolical "missing link" frauds, presented by Satanists posing as scientists:
1913-53 Piltdown Man HOAX, Manufactured Planted Evidence
Nebraska Man, Discarded Pigs Tooth
Peking Man, Conglomeration of Co-Mingled Fossils
Lucy, Manipulated Fossil Using Plaster
Orce Man, 4 Month Old Donkey Bone
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*Complete morons submit a transitional fossil as the "missing link"
waketheoblivious 7 months ago
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waketheoblivious 7 months ago
Fundamental Logic 101. A commitment to the truth (the only sane choice), inherently expands to include all possibilities. Arbitrary dismissal of a possibility, breaches that commitment as a fatal logic error, proving themselves fundamentally liars & frauds. When Atheist/Satanists dismiss the possibility of God, they breach their commitment to the truth, resulting in the mindfucked insanity to argue justifying a lie, is rational behavior.
Atheist/Satanist = Evil Godforsaken Nazis
waketheoblivious 7 months ago
@waketheoblivious How about you stop playing word games, child, and explain to me why there is NO EVIDENCE IN SUPPORT OF GOD'S EXISTENCE??
wait.. you can't.
redshark618 7 months ago
@red
Dr. Simon Greenleaf, Royal Professor of Law Harvard University, was one of the greatest legal minds in history. He wrote, A Treatise on the Law of Evidence, considered one of the greatest legal works ever written. Dr.Greenleaf, was a devout Jewish man who believed the Resurrection of Jesus Christ was a hoax. He was determined, to expose the "myth" of the Resurrection. After thoroughly examining the evidence, Dr.Greenleaf came to the exact opposite conclusion & became Christian.
waketheoblivious 7 months ago
@redshark618
An Examination of the Testimony of the Four Evangelists by the Rules of Evidence Administered in the Courts of Justice, Dr. Greeleaf emphatically stated:
"it was IMPOSSIBLE that the apostles could have persisted in affirming the truths they had narrated, had not JESUS CHRIST ACTUALLY RISEN FROM THE DEAD, . . ."
(Simon Greenleaf, An Examination of the Testimony of the Four Evangelists by the Rules of Evidence Administered in the Courts of Justice, p.29).
waketheoblivious 7 months ago
@waketheoblivious Bullshit! Dr. Greenleaf lived in the 19th fucking century! This was before modern science opened the boundaries of knowledge! Furthermore, he was an evangelical, NOT a secularist, which completely gives him a bias and voids his statement.
Do you honestly think this man's opinion is enough "evidence" of God's existence? Grow the fuck up.
redshark618 7 months ago
@redshark618
His book on Evidenciary Law is still in use today. Next time, rather then post another display of your absolute ignorance, having expressed an opinion on a book you never read, actually read the book. As is, your insanity compels you to post the pathological lies of an egotistical maniac.
waketheoblivious 7 months ago
@waketheoblivious "Insanity", eh? It doesn't matter if the man was a genius, his views on Christianity are completely lacking evidencial support. You can't seem to grasp this fact. Newton was a theist, but this doesn't take away from nor enhance his theory of gravitation in any way. These men weren't remembered for their unimpressive theological arguments, but for their secular achievments.
Still no word on any REAL evidence for your God. You're just beating round the bush.
redshark618 7 months ago
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Economics is a Social Science, generally taught in the College of Liberal Arts. The Physical Sciences are in that same College. Economics, proved the existence of the "Invisible Hand". Adam Smith's Classical Economic Theory, including the Laws of Supply & Demand are Natural Laws proven true & correct. Clasical, Keynesian, NeoClassical and now drifting to Austrian Theory, will inevitably return to Classical once again. Why, Classical Theory has been proven true, over and over. God exists.
waketheoblivious 7 months ago
@redshark618
Classical Economic Theory, proved the Laws of Supply and Demand, Principle of Self-Interest and Existence of the "Invisible Hand" aka "God". Morons have been trying now for almost 300 years, to disprove Classical Economics. Evolution has been trying for 100 years to find a legitimate "missing link", to prove an Evil Illusion. In order to prove Evolution correct, would have to disprove Classical Economic Theory. Impossible, but the insane keep trying. Satanic Self-Interest.
waketheoblivious 7 months ago
@waketheoblivious I'm going to stop now because I just realized how futile it is trying to argue with you people. It would probably hurt your ego anyways, you know, being scientifically educated. Have a nice day.
redshark618 6 months ago
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completely lacking evidencial support
- redshark618
Laughable ignorance. Royal Professor Dr. Simon Greenleaf, Harvard Law School wrote the book on Evidenciary Law that is still in use today. A Treatise on the Law of Evidence, is considered one of the greatest legal volumes ever written.
waketheoblivious 7 months ago
@redshark618 You are breathing air, typing on a computer, and sitting on a chair that's resting on a planet spinning at 22k miles per hour. How is that not evidence of God the creator? Open your eyes and weigh the possibilities, man.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@dec4dence Except that we know where oxygen comes from. And we know that the earth revolves because of gravity. And we know that god didn't invent computers. Seems to me, that God the creator wasn't involved in any of those things.
redshark618 4 months ago
@redshark618 What are you talking about dude? You have the most random comment ever. I know where oxygen comes from too. God made it. What's your explanation for it? It came from nothing right? What a joke. Only a moron would fall for that. You insult yourself for believing in something that is completely fallible. Have some self worth man. Seek out Truth.
dec4dence 4 months ago
@waketheoblivious "WTC I & II = Controlled Demotions Planted Piltdown Man + No Proof = Controlled Evolution"
What does evolution and 9/11 have to do with each other? You're just batty dude.
Meatbag211 7 months ago
@Meatbag211
Read the fucking chat log before posting your fucking ignorance. Great, another Satanic Nazi Shill camping Evolution Atheist videos promoting their Godforsaken lifestyle as part of a highly orchestrated group, all interlinked with homepage friend's lists swimming in Satanic symbolism. Some participating have admitted being active duty milititary UN forces paid to post these attacks as a crime against humanity.
waketheoblivious 7 months ago
@waketheoblivious You do understand saying atheists are satanists and nazis doesnt make any sense right
Atheists do not believe in a god or gods. Satanists worship satan as a deity, and Nazis were christian.
Meatbag211 7 months ago
@Meatbag211
Whether one chooses to un/consciously worship Satan, the poisonous affect on humanity is the same. Atheists/Satanists, both breech their fundamental commitment to the truth (only sane choice) which inherently expands to include all possibilities. When an Atheist/Satanist arbitrarily chooses to abandon the possibility of God, they breech their fundamental commitment as a fatal logic error. What defines being a Christian? Certainly not a mere claim of being Christian.
waketheoblivious 7 months ago
@waketheoblivious "Whether one chooses to un/consciously worship Satan"
Fairy tales bore me. Your religion was dull when Magic Man was called Ahura Mazda and the big bad guy was Angra Mainyu. Do you have any evidence your god exists?
Meatbag211 7 months ago
@Meatbag211
Do you even understand how ignorant your question is since it has long been known people can not prove God does not exist, not can they prove God does exist using scientific reasoning and logic. Science uses objective reasoning and logic to avoid the pitfalls of emotional subjective reasoning which leads to arbitrary dismissal of possibilities. For you to even have asked that question is a public display of ignorance. Either you sustained your commitment or you didn't, period.
waketheoblivious 7 months ago
@waketheoblivious I think that by equating your imaginary friend to other works of human creation, it is obvious that your religion is a work of fiction. Not only is it fiction, it is bad fiction. Science outright disproves the creation myth, noah's flood, the jews slavery in egypt, as well as many aspects of Jesus' myth.
You offer no evidence to support your claims and claims without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Meatbag211 7 months ago
domestic dogs vary due to selective breeding and not microevolution ...and Darwin's theory of evolution did not include the big bang theory.
bunbuno1 8 months ago
@bunbuno1 The effects of selective breeding is evidence for MACROevolution.
LesPaul2006 7 months ago
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bunbuno1 8 months ago
i want to correct kirk because i don't want his bullshit believed by anyone..there is no difference between micro and macro evolution..the only thing that separates them is time..very small changes (micro) over very long time frames, becomes large change. (macro)..this doesn't need to be observed directly. we observe these small changes, and we know the earth is 4.5 billion years old. it's inevitable that the accumulation of these small changes will lead to great biological diversity.
itzahazylife 8 months ago
oh man..how is this complicated?..there IS a basis!..the basis is the comfortable and efficient survival of society. yet, there still are people who murder, rape, steal, harm, etc..this isn't because they don't follow god, it's because there are anti-social, self-centered people out there. it's as simple as that..morality has a simple origin, but has developed into a very complex system.
itzahazylife 8 months ago
Damn, there are some poor thinkers on both sides of this argument. . . If John Paul II were still alive the perfect debate would be between him and Richard Dawkins
CreedBalboa 9 months ago
I really hate when ignorant folk assume that the big bang is included in the theory of evolution.
rpsmith014 9 months ago 14