I do have to laugh a little bit, first of, double sets of locking crabs for top anchor. WOW.
nothing against overkill, but WOW.
I would not have removed BOTH the top draws atthe same time. the risk of fumbling, and dropping one or both, looked realy high the way you did it. looked aquard.
Also in the event, that the climb is not steep enough to actualy drop the rope down, coil and throw, prevents it from getting tangled, or caught.
I disagree with those who want to simply lower through the chains. That creates extra wear on them compared to rappelling and then pulling the un-weighted rope. This method, although longer and more involved, will help keep the fixed gear from wearing prematurely.
@rannix18 And why is that? According to the material that I've read, and my experience in sport climbing, I call tell you that the opposite is true. You should always test holds and protection; since your life depends on it.
That was the long way to do it, you could of just tied in to anchor the with the daisy chain. then untie your figure of eight from your harness then thread it through the anchor then retie the figure eight back on to your harness then allow your belayer to lower you. It's much safer than repelling
@20ROBERT101 Normally - you're absolutely right. Rapping is more complicated, however due to the fact that I could not hear or see the belayer - rapping was probably the safer route to go here.
@cbuck89 I totally agree with you. Too many accidents have occurred because of not doing that. This was actually the first time I'd ever cleaned up a route. That would have been a great thing to do here especially because I can't see the ground from the anchors. Luckily for me - you live and learn...
new climber, and no prussik tisk tisk
Northernblades 4 weeks ago
I do have to laugh a little bit, first of, double sets of locking crabs for top anchor. WOW.
nothing against overkill, but WOW.
I would not have removed BOTH the top draws atthe same time. the risk of fumbling, and dropping one or both, looked realy high the way you did it. looked aquard.
Also in the event, that the climb is not steep enough to actualy drop the rope down, coil and throw, prevents it from getting tangled, or caught.
Northernblades 4 weeks ago
I disagree with those who want to simply lower through the chains. That creates extra wear on them compared to rappelling and then pulling the un-weighted rope. This method, although longer and more involved, will help keep the fixed gear from wearing prematurely.
Joker53150 1 month ago 3
@Joker53150 +1 Lowering off chains is a douche move.
Northernblades 4 weeks ago
you should never test anchors.
rannix18 1 month ago
@rannix18 And why is that? According to the material that I've read, and my experience in sport climbing, I call tell you that the opposite is true. You should always test holds and protection; since your life depends on it.
intere 1 month ago
That was the long way to do it, you could of just tied in to anchor the with the daisy chain. then untie your figure of eight from your harness then thread it through the anchor then retie the figure eight back on to your harness then allow your belayer to lower you. It's much safer than repelling
20ROBERT101 2 months ago
@20ROBERT101 Normally - you're absolutely right. Rapping is more complicated, however due to the fact that I could not hear or see the belayer - rapping was probably the safer route to go here.
intere 2 months ago
@intere Rapping off anchor rings is a doush thing to do. It causes unnessesary wear and tear, on rings that are not often replaced, (especialy chains)
only a douch uses a belayer to lower him off of chains.
the rings on this climb were more easily replaceable, but ask yourself this, how many have you put up? and how many have you replaced?
It is not your place, rapp off them like you know what your doing, instead of letting everyone else replace the damage you have done.
Northernblades 4 weeks ago
@20ROBERT101 lowering off the chains will wear the rope more, but both methods are fine.
res813 1 month ago
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YouWill87 5 months ago
always good to tie a stopper knot on the section being lowered to the ground... just to be safe
cbuck89 5 months ago
@cbuck89 I totally agree with you. Too many accidents have occurred because of not doing that. This was actually the first time I'd ever cleaned up a route. That would have been a great thing to do here especially because I can't see the ground from the anchors. Luckily for me - you live and learn...
intere 5 months ago
The knot is to prevent you to fall. If you drop rope, knot will keep you save you!
fabiocatalao 4 months ago