The problem with your "two consenting adults" argument is that obviously, if two consenting adults decide to murder someone, there is a third adult who I'm extremely confident isn't consenting. Pick a different example because that is weak.
True as a creationist I agree with you on that one.
I would choose an example like a person committing beastiality because the animal does like it in cases because someone's shown me a video of a cow giving it to a woman. Dirty stuff. So that's consent same as homosexuals consenting.
So it's true consent doesn't really mean it's ok, another example incest or even parent and child going at it (child being grown up)
@100pjp001 First of all you can't compare homosexuality with bestiality. That's incredibly ignorant and though I'm straight I find it extremely offensive. An animal can't consent obviously because it has no capacity to. As far as an adult child with their parent I think it's gross but if they are both adults when it begins then I guess it's their life they can feel free to do as they please. No children come from homosexuality but deformities can result from incest.
"First of all you can't compare homosexuality with bestiality. "
I just did and I know animals can't talk but apart from that they do like it, as I said it was the animal doing the giving. so it was consented pretty much.
It is their life parents and children at adult age doing it but I'm just saying it is wrong and not a good example to set at all! Like you said it's disgusting. So again my original point "consent" doesn't necessarily make it alright really.
"though I'm straight I find it extremely offensive"
Offensive? I'm only making a point of why consent doesn't mean good. Not meant to be offensive and it wasn't just beastiality it's the parent/child thing too. There's no way we can look at those things and say there's nothing wrong with it just because it's consented, it's totally sick.
@100pjp001 But you're confusing consent with ignorance. Bestiality is wrong because it's animal abuse. Parent/child has extremely negative psychological effects because a parent is supposed to protect a child, not be intimate with it. Homosexuality is not sick, it is a basic biological trait.
There is obviously differences between those 3 things but share the 1 thing in common that's commonly used to condone homosexuality. Behaviours that are seen as "gross" now as you just said will be widely accepted in the future. Hope I'm wrong but many things the older generations disapproved of today's world are now not seen as wrong so what will we disapprove of when the future generations arrive I wonder... I hope I'm wrong seriously lol.
What if they don't care about having kids, better yet what if they want kids but can adopt. What if the "consenting" relationship between parent and child blossomed and they decide to have kids they can just adopt too can't they. Problem solved, that's how gay "parents" have kids don't they become 2 mummies or 2 daddies lol.
@100pjp001 your argument holds absolutely no water. Your personal opinion doesn't make something wrong. What makes something wrong is when it causes harm to someone. Incest causes harm, bestiality causes harm, homosexuality does not. They aren't the same. They're like apples and toasters-completely different. What right do you have to say that it's wrong?
@jackbaronguy, something is wrong not because it physically or "psychologically" harms someone. something is wrong because it is not of God and pursuing something not of God is empty and causes self-harm (spiritually).
Not even murder is wrong because it harms others. The wrong is always in you turning from God, not the specific way it plays out.
"No True Scotsman. "So called Christians" are still Christians"
Have you not listened to the video at all? Christians can think or say they're Christians all they like but it's whether they behave like Christians or not that counts. You can't hold Christianity as a religion accountable for disobedience of those who choose to disobey.
Great video! a lot more Christian should have this perspective instead of just hating others for their sins, thanks for the insight, very brave of you to post it on youtube! keep it up
@puccalu19 The "Christians" who say hateful things, are not Christians. The behavior and heart they display is not a Christian one, and certainly nothing Jesus would approve of :)
only thing I disagree with on this video is the consent aspect. "The 2 people that consent to murder someone doesn't mean it's ok because it's consented" The murder victim doesn't consent to it so that ain't right.
The reason why I disagree with homosexuality on is the fact that if most of the world became gay, gay influence is more and more on the rise and it would do some serious damage to the human population.
I never said respecting gay people would make heterosexual people become gay that wasn't my point. Kids are gonna grow up thinking there's nothing wrong with being attracted to the same sex so that will encourage them to be gay guaranteed, not all obviously but it will influence and that won't be a good thing in the long run like a lot of things nowadays. People don't see the big picture of what's going on in today's world.
"You are just another religious hypocrite......You,peoples are so ignorants"
WHAT?? lol, ok look 1 were all ignorant in some way or another, 2 don't call me a hypocrite because were all hypocrites too you see you've accused me of being hateful and a bigot when you've demonstrated yourself to be those things yourself.
Get a mirror and stop pointing at other people, we've all messed up I'm not hating no one nor judging anyone personally, that's not me.
There you go again you demonstrate bigotry, hateful and being a hypocrite which you accused me of so what does that make you?
Religious people = weak minds
hmmm say that to those who are university educated and millions like so who are more intelligent than you and me, again you accuse me of ignorance and you just gave me a big demonstration of it lol. There are many intelligent atheists too I know.
"You really think human will disappear because everyone will turn gay?"
uhhh yea LOL what kind of question is that it takes heterosexuals to breed in the first place, the proper way, the original way of making the world go round. What do you suggest if that does happen everyone turning gay make machines to grow babies in what?
@100pjp001 That's a pretty weak argument. Murder is no where near two consenting adults, who love each other- and wish to spend their lives together. Gays don't make other people gay, if you have no desire for someone of the same sex, emotionally or physically- nobody's going to change your mind into wanting it. I have gay friends, they're awesome people, I see them as people- and we've been friends for about 17 years- and I still have no desire to be with men.
Yea homosexuals are nice/cool people I agree with you there I'm just talking about the sexuality not the person and the fact that it's not something you're born with as I've seen people flip flop between liking men 1 minute then having a change of heart. That's the only point I was making there.
It depends what takes your fancy and what inspires you.
@100pjp001 Yeah this is the tricky part. There are people who are born with it, and people who choose it. When my friend came out to me Dec of 1999- long story short lol, we conducted an experiment, which started in Jan of 00, ended it this past summer. Not only are there people born with it, or choose it; but their behaviors are drastically different. Also did some biblical studying, a lot of people who call themselves Christians get it all wrong as well.
yea there probably are people born with it too. All kinds of sin are passed down genetically. someone who spends most of their life as a professional thief for example there's a chance that their kid might turn out the same way so it maybe the same thing with gay people too.
@100pjp001 The genetic studies of the whole gay thing, have been pretty interesting; even though scientist haven't been able to put their finger on it. It seems to always be on the mother's side however. I know people who have gay parents, and they are not- don't get me wrong I feel the ideal setting is man and woman- being that man and woman are different, and their differences bring something to the table in raising children. But nah kids don't turn gay because a parent was or is.
@100pjp001 Yeah so far scientist believe that the gene is carried within the mother- doesn't matter male or female (gay/lesbian). Its actually been hard for them to even do research about this stuff. They get a lot of opposition from extreme right-wing Christian groups- and surprisingly even some left-wing gay activist. It is interesting though that the ones born with it- respond to scent/pheromones of other men, like a heterosexual female- the ones who choose it, do not.
@100pjp001 As a Christian myself, I know that only god knows the true heart of someone- and we will be judged as individuals, and god would not destroy anyone, nor hates anyone who is gay. Only people who have problems when judgement day comes; are those who reject the father and the son (Antichrist spirit) and wish or do harm upon others, with no remorse in the heart. There are sadly people like that out there- just evil.
@100pjp001 As for the other sins- we are warned against them only because when we fall into it; it only makes our lives or the lives of others more difficult- or destructive. The bible is a book of faith yes, but also a book of history- and a guide on how to live your life the best you can, in the type of world we have- past and present. A guy cheating on his wife with many women, isn't sinning anymore or less than a gay guy doing the same.
@100pjp001 God knows us better than we know ourselves- and understands we are imperfect. The people who call themselves Christians, who shun others- or use Christianity to justify their hate, are not true believers of Christ and the father- and are sinning all the same, but even worse- because they allow hate to make their hearts dark- and they distort Christ and the father, which is also quite blasphemous- which is a soul damaging sin.
Oh yea I agree about "christians" having signs saying "God hates fags" terrible! they obviously haven't studied their Bible properly! No love in these people!
Were all sinners so what right does one sinner have to judge someone else
for being a sinner? no right!
Homosexuality is just another sin along with the sins that everyone else commits.
@100pjp001 Also did studying on how the ancient world viewed it- definitely interesting, and modern day society- including the gay community get it all wrong, basically everyone is wrong about it. It was pretty damn interesting stuff we learned.
But there have been stories of people who have been such a sexuality most of their life then they switch.
A homosexual man for many years of his life found a religion and now married to a woman he came on some debate program on tv a while back. He said that he has no gay feelings whatsoever any more. So how do you know there are those born with it?
@100pjp001 Oh yeah you're correct, and its one of the things we saw. The people who've classified themselves as homosexual, and then switched; had nothing to do with their sexuality- just sex. They become addicted to the act, and the parts of the man (or female if its lesbians). It also ALWAYS starts with a curiosity too- the other guys we called em group B lol, none of those things were in place, and they didn't care about sex really at all, just companionship and love- sex was last.
@100pjp001 For guys in group B, it was never a curiosity- it was just something normal to em; and they responded to guys the way a heterosexual female does- even right down to being first attracted to the scent of a guy. Of course not ALL men, because eve women are not attracted to every man that comes their way. For the ones in group A- who make it about just sex, none of those things were in play- they just wanted sex, and cared ONLY about the look of the man, and the size of his... lol
@100pjp001 It was just all so very fascinating the things we were learning, and now I become angrier when people say everyone who is gay chooses that- and the guys who are born that way, which by the way aren't that many; there is no praying it away or anything, and most of them live very lonely lives. They don't like gay clubs, or the gay parades, or running about screwing every guy out there. Not to sound graphic or anything- but they also detest anal sex, and did not do that.
@100pjp001 One of the questions we'd always ask these guys, it wasn't just me alone by the way; because we talked to over thousands of guys- 00-11, (I still can't believe we did this for 11 and a half years) But we'd ask "when was it you learned you were gay". The group B guys, could never place an exact period- just said they didn't know what gay was and just felt it was normal to be into boys. Group A, always around high school/college or a bit later- with curiosity at play.
"Group A guys, if they were in a relationship with another guy; would constantly cheat on their partner- and or be in an "open relationship""
That just goes to show that it's mainly a lustful thing really ain't it. So group b are the committed ones but not very sexually active towards each other so just close buddies they may as well be then really lol. What's the point if they don't make out alot isn't that the point of being an item to begin with along with the commitment?
@100pjp001 [1] Exactly- every guy we kept encountering, who fell right into group A- were all about lust/sex, and nothing else. Many of them were into all sorts of weird fetishes- which got pretty damn scary. Most of the time however they made me very extremely angry, because of the way they treated or viewed guys of group B. Not ALL guys in group A were so nasty though- some of em were as they are, because of some sort of abuse- home, jail, even in military (story from a Russian guy)
@100pjp001 [2] Group B guys, were emotionally, physically/sexually attracted to men much like a heterosexual female is. Though sex was never the main thing, they were far more concerned with personality traits, beliefs, friendship/companionship- and detested any kind of feminization of men, and penetration sex (they did something else, which actually mirrors how men in ancient times viewed male/male relationships- and why)
"Though sex was never the main thing, they were far more concerned with personality traits, beliefs, friendship/companionship- and detested any kind of feminization of men, and penetration sex (they did something else"
That's weird innit lol, you even get some men out there who would want a sex change in order to be a lesbian XD. I'm sorry but that's just 1 of the craziest things I've ever heard. I'll never understand the mind of a homosexual it don't make sense lol.
@100pjp001 Oh the people out there who want a sex change, I do feel bad for them. When their brains are studied- it actually matches a female. Everything matches a female, except the body and such- and other way around for a female who changes her body to look more like a male. Strange stuff indeed, Drag queens are different though lol
@100pjp001 [3] Funny thing about them though, is they felt as if they were weird, because they didn't like, the things most people think an average gay man would like. They received much ridicule from group A, and felt alone too. They themselves had no idea (most of em), that they were following it in all the ways men viewed it in ancient times- and why. When we'd bring it up to them, many of them would become excited feeling they finally understood why they feel as they do.
@100pjp001 Group B guys, were not ashamed of their sexuality- though felt lonely as I mentioned. Other than that, they seemed like average guys. We'd talk for hours about politics, religion, history, video games, day to day stuff, whatever. The ones who were all into martial arts, and MMA- and would watch UFC, I expected to hear loads of comments about the men, like I heard from group A. Nope- and they'd get hyped up about the fight- pissed if their favorite lost.
@100pjp001 [4] Group B, also did not like to pervert/distort any kind of brotherly relationships. If a guy was more like a best friend/brother to them- they kept it as such, and felt very put off at the idea of the guy they viewed as such- making any kind of sexual advances towards them. The ones who had a partner- never referred to him as "boyfriend" or "husband", they just called em "my guy" "my partner"- they were not trying to emulate male/female relationships like group A does.
"The ones who had a partner- never referred to him as "boyfriend" or "husband", they just called em "my guy" "my partner"- they were not trying to emulate male/female relationships like group A does."
Wow very strange and baffling indeed but interesting all the same.
@100pjp001 Yeah they thought calling another guy your "boyfriend" or "husband" not only sounded feminizing, but stupid- that was what I kept getting from group B guys. Yeah the whole thing was definitely extremely interesting stuff; learned a lot, changed my view of homosexuality- I mean I never hated anyone who was gay, it was just interesting to learn how it isn't the way most people think- and it helped my friend a lot, since he was the reason we started the experiment.
"Yeah the whole thing was definitely extremely interesting stuff; learned a lot, changed my view of homosexuality- I mean I never hated anyone who was gay"
I've learned a little bit too now from talking to you. Thanks for the info.
@100pjp001 In group B, there were a lot of Christians- and they weren't fazed by the "god hates fags" crap- they know god doesn't hate them, and knew those people were not true Christians. They also felt that god accepted them, knew they were imperfect like everyone else walking the earth. They faced A LOT of ridicule from (not all, but most) guys of group A, for being Christian, and also not being wacky leftist- but again just being average guys (some above since some were military)
@100pjp001 Group A guys, if they were in a relationship with another guy; would constantly cheat on their partner- and or be in an "open relationship" to have an excuse for promiscuity; even if they got married. Group B guys remained faithful to their partners IF they even had one.
@100pjp001 We actually did form friendships, that still exist with guys of group B- and some of em now want to do things; to change the image the media and modern society views of homosexuals. Group A... Some guys did change, like I'm gathering how this guy did or is talking about. Most of em however stopped talking with us quickly- when they saw sex wasn't going to happen lol.
Not necessarily homophobic I've got no problem with them as people I've worked with a few of them and they're cool. I'm just talking about the sexuality not the person and my opinion on why people are gay etc.
Along with homosexuality I disagree with a lot of things people do including me don't mean I have a phobia of myself and everyone else lol.
My gay christian friend thought getting married would cure him. After 2 years they got an annulment! That's right. For two years neither of them had sex because he could never get an erection with her. Sounds like a choice to me.
There's more than enough evidence of homosexuality being a choice, an old friend of mine's dad was married then his parents split then the dad suddenly started seeing men. There might be cases of being in denial but the thing is there's also many cases of say men who were genuinely into women then because of bad experiences they get put off by women and start getting into men.
My ex girlfriend's friend into men for many years then she was seeing some girl for abit now she's back to men again!
Bisexual hmm that's if you were always attracted to both sexes but I know people that were attracted to the opposite sex for years and never had gay feelings then it just hit them bam and turn totally gay. I've seen and heard of so many cases.
Using the bisexual argument is too convenient really. When living things are horny they'll sex anything it's in our nature. All I'm saying is that the whole natural reason to get horny is to pass the genes on.
@100pjp001 Yeah yeah...people just choose to be gay by fantasy because they really LOVE to be harrass,hate and bash by bigot like you.....It make sense....lolll
" Yeah yeah...people just choose to be gay by fantasy because they really LOVE to be harrass,hate and bash by bigot like you.....It make sense....lolll"
?? You're not making sense now lol. "Bigot" "Hate"? Hmmm do you have a mirror at all? It's ok for you to be a bigot and hateful towards religious people calling them "religious pricks" ain't it.
You see I haven't done any name calling I'm only giving my opinion about the sexuality, am I not allowed to express my opinion?
Born again, and coontinually deny yourself? Say 5 years down the road you stop denying your desires and live back according to them. Do you stop being saved? Did you leave the kingdom?
yes men and women are really opposites but you see it is natural to get horny and when that happens were supposed to find the opposite sex so we can find a partner to reproduce with them that's the whole reason for it to begin with to pass our genes. But people will find substitutes and that's why people get gay.
So that to me is why people are gay in my opinion anyway through being sexually active I believe it is a choice really, inspiration. Refer to my other comment.
The point isn't that people are homosexual by choice, it's whether or not homosexuality is a sin. There are plenty of homosexuals that are christian and still are attracted to the same gender. They want to make it clear to those arrogant and ignorant religious people that homosexuality is not sinful. Even though you tell them it is and they are wrong, because of a book that was written 2000 years ago, by people who would sell their daughters into marriage for livestock.
Could NOT have said it better myself. For a long time, I was wondering, "if it's a choice, then why do they just NOT choose to do it"???? Because, a porn-addict doesn't just get rid of his addiction overnight. Nor does a thief, nor does a liar. There's a process you must go through first. I heard a testimony on the radio of a man who had homosexual desires, but he learned that his desires began to dwindle when he hung with his christian friends. Over time, he left the homosexual lifestyle.
This guy is of excellent character wisdom and grace.His parents did a very good job.All men are slaves to sin powerless to certain propensitys.Right, homsexuality is not a choice.However instincts to some extent can be disciplined.There are homosexuals whom within the way of life become deviant Not unlike some who like women but deviate from the natural sex act.Powerless homosexuality is the correct approach .But how many admit powerlessness for change.? Few accept to fight the passion.
I Praise God when I hear about christians loving there fellow man. Homosexuality is a part of our sin nature just as venomFanx says in this video...but more importantly what God says in scripture. Amen Brother and I am proud to be your brother when you take this view and tell it to the world as you did. Awesome representaion. I haven't watched anything else you did but the title caught my eye. Praise God for christians opening their eyes to the truth of Homosexuality!!!!!!!!! Glory to God alone!
Well done; you've changed my mind to some extent. I think people can choose to practice homosexuality as a result of following a life of sexual promiscuity (I've seen this happen), but I think you make a good point. My experience may be with people who are not actually gay (i.e. born with homosexual tendencies). I have a cousin that is gay who is a Christian. I may share this with him.
@theplaintruth777 You do realize that the guy making this video is totally crazy right? I'd advice you to read some real science on homosexuality on the internet because taking advice from this guy is like driving of a cliff.
@lnmylife I'm not sure if this guy is crazy; I don't know him. But I understand that homosexuality is a sin no different than any other sexually deviant sin. I was once addicted to pornography, but by the grace of God I am free. I view homosexuality no differently. We all have things we struggle with that we must overcome. I guess I must have made it clear that I am a Christian? If you are not, then you will have no idea where I am coming from.
@pilgrimbobbyc31 Whoops, I guess I should make it clear also that I have two screennames, pilgrimbobbyc31 and theplaintruth777. Sorry for the confusion of responding to a post under one name with my other screenname :)
@lnmylife interesting... I love my cousin and respond to him in love. I don't treat him any differently than I do anyone else. I certainly don't call him crazy or any other such nonsense. I'm sorry you are seem to be so full of hate that you think it is necessary to bash me on here. I truly hope you find contentment enough to allow people to have differing points of view without calling them names. If you are comfortable with your point of view, you shouldn't feel threatened by opposing ones.
@xxSuperNoVa103xx Oh yup. Sure. Kinda like you can choose to have a penis and a vagina, cuzz you know...what ur born naturally with u can always choose.
@xxSuperNoVa103xx What?? No you can't. Do you choose to be straight? No. You just feel compelled to like the opposite gender. It's like saying "You choose to be straight".
He is specifically saying that some people are born with. or choice) a different sexuality- In this case, eunuchs- But he mentions those 'born this way'- A reference to Hermaphrodites in biblical times? not likely.... Is he saying that some people are born castrated? Not hardly....This is a reference to any male or female who possesses aspects of the opposite sex- This would be a common theological topic in those days, as traditionally, religious leaders were gay (not so different now)
@PawelKolasa This video is not about pedophilia. What part of "between two consenting ADULTS" confuses you? Don't muddy the waters by bringing in irrelevant topics
You are not right when you say homosexuality is hard-wired. We are a clean slate when we are born. We do not inherit sins and they do not accumulate as the family tree expands. Every person has the opportunity to take responsibility for THEIR own sins and theirs alone. You don't have to pay for the sins of another unless you are Jesus Christ himself.
A) I love the way you went about this, even though you're an extremely devote man and Christianity doesn't embrace the act, which is usually the focus. B) I'm really sorry I'm trying to listen and I did, but you're extremely attractive and I like your voice. And I felt you should know that? o.o
9:16 Two consenting adults having sex does not infringe on another person's right to live. This is a poor comparison. You never explained how homosexuality harms.
10:23 What is natural? We are naturally created with an orientation but the act itself is unnatural? how is that?
10:52 This is subjective. Just because something looks a certain way, it does not necessarily have to serve your perceived purpose.
@MulattoZygote gay men make babies all the time- either the usual way with a female friend, or artificial insemenation with a surrogate. Clever gays.....next, They also adopt adopt children that no availible heterosexual couple is willing to take on, loving, Compassionate gays
you lost me at "I can kill someone without hurting them" You are either absurdly literal, or disingenuous in pretending not to know that 'hurt' in this context means 'harm'. In this context, even lying can hurt others by denying them truth
@ATLMastering "Look how many "Christianity is stupid" videos there are out there on Youtube and then see how many thumbs up you people give it before even watching the video..."
That's twice you have claimed some preternatural ability to know who has watched a video and who hasn't or how many uncritical thumbs up or down a video received.
You should work for YouTube - your talents are wasted in the comments section.
i used to feel bisexual i never touched a girl thank god and i didn't want those bisexual feelings, to me it was a nightmare i don't want to offend people who r gay, i don't hate them either, but i didn't want to be bisexual it is harder when you have those feelings and you don't want them but god helps if you ask.That is right we have the ability to choose our actions by biblical perspective in which is wise. your videos are always intensely deep; you speak well god bless
@hexum7 The Bible does actually support the notion that God can and will change our nature to become more like Him. So the core of Christianity is that we are able to become more than we can possible imagine, in this life and also in the next. :)
Ok, there's a distinction to be made with your concession comparison: sex between two consenting adults only affects those two adults; murder committed by two adults (who have given consent to conspire and commit the murder) is affecting a third party who has not given concession to be murdered...see the difference?
@ATLMastering "Atheists don't watch the videos, they just spam the dislike bar to discredit VenomFangX."
Because we all know with absolute certainty that theists actually watch the science videos before they smother them with already long debunked talking points from Answers In Genesis or bible passages.
One anecdote from an allegedly gay man who is now allegedly straight, allegedly due to the intercession of Jesus. How much of that 22 minutes do I need to watch to detect gross observer bias?
@Terncote I think there's just as much "observer bias" on your side of the fence as well. Look how many "Christianity is stupid" videos there are out there on Youtube and then see how many thumbs up you people give it before even watching the video...
@tnafguy1 Atheists don't watch the videos, they just spam the dislike bar to discredit VenomFangX. The Youtube Atheist comumunity has had a long history of doing this, especially against VenomFangX. It is a form of argumentum ad populum and poisoning the well.
@ATLMastering Ad populum? Fair enough with regard to Youtube, but please consider the preponderance of Christianity and Islam before stating that atheism is "poisoning the well"
@tnafguy1 "wow. talk to any gay person.. they will tell u , if they had a choice, they would not choose to be gay:
That's a myth. most would have chosen to be straight in their less mature days. Some do think that life would be better if they were straight- but many gays, especially those in a loving relationship do not want to be magically made hetero
YES. Thank you so much for this video. I agreed with every single word (I originally saw the title and was preparing for a lot of bias, but could not find anything. : ) ) This is how the church should be preaching about homosexuality. May the Lord bless you sir and when bringing glory to his most holy name. : )
Dude, you've done an incredible 180 since your old videos! I still disagree with you on the young earth stuff....but agreeing with you or disagreeing with you isn't the point. My point is that your entire tone an attitude seems to have changed from ignorant and arrogant to humble and knowledgeable... and I just want to encourage you to keep it up.
It's possible to stand by your convictions and not be an asshole about it...and you're proving it.
I haft to disagree with your analogy because i know firsthand that all sin hurts someone and yes Lying hurts other people because you are concealing the truth from them by planting falsehood into their mind. Jesus gave two commandments the first is love God with your whole being and the second is like unto it love others as you love yourself.
I've always asked that - Why don't gay men and lesbian women get together? I've noted in both unions though they are same gender they tend to gravitate toward specified gender roles anyway (effeminate men and more masculine women). So why not unite masculine women with effeminate men? Personality wise I've noted that's what they are gravitating towards the only difference being better suited genitalia.
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Sin is always a choice, my friend. You are not different from anyone else, because we ALL face temptation daily regardless, of what the temptation is. James 4:7.
God TOLD us to be"fruitful and multiply"How can you obey God by marrying another homosexual? That is a direct disobedience to God.The Christian life is all about obeying God for everything, so your children will have a much better life in this world! What are you teaching our children when you advertise the homosexual lifestyle as God's righteousness? To spread decease so more can die,even innocent ones? That makes you also a murderer right up there with abortionists. You walk with the enemy.
Do you believe adultery is sin? Do you think these adulterers were born to commit adultery? Same thing my friend, what ever lusts you focus on, will control your flesh, and blinds you from true spiritualness, and a walk with Jesus Christ and His saving grace.
Hmm, I'm not gay, because I choose not to be..just like gays becoming straight because they choose to change their ways..it takes strength not to follow the flesh, God gives you that strength.Don't twist it into an excuse to sin, (read Romans) that everyone that doesn't repent (turn around) from sin, and trust in the Lord and walk in His ways from now on, will go to the place of torment with the author of sin..satan! No ifs and or butts. God doesn't make exceptions..
No it's because they have abandoned God that teens commit suicide. Of all flavors. What VenomFangX says is love, my friend, as I. We are loving you by warning you of what comes in death. Regardless of what you believe you will stand before the judgment of God, and you will have been amply warned.
The irony is you call this love hate, and then say what you say, and that good people say those things. You are a mess, my friend. Just repent and ask God for forgiveness.
@TheWalkingDead000 Your name is not just a little bit ironic, considering your hatred for the things of God has made you callous and dead inside. Spiritual death is where that is getting you in the end. Hell is not a pleasant place. Don't go there. Repent of your sins and you can still have life.
No offense to u though, I respect ur perspective, its biblical!! but it really hurts to hear what u r saying! I will just wait for God to tell me that I messed up!! cuz there r people saying that what was meant in the real bible was sex among men with children. but it turned out to be a wrong translation. Cuz the bible does not mention lesbians, and as u know the bible also makes women second class citizens before God. and if u read the old testament there are so many unfair things.
im not religious at all but i dont understand why atheist are commenting saying that this guy is stupid... venom fang x just sharing his opinion about his beliefs
@bleda555BC If it was my opinion that tree's grow better in the dark due to the light fairies giving them life force, that would be frowned upon and considered stupid.
Having an opinion doesn't protect you from the judgement of your peers, if it's stupid enough.
Sorry, I don't do drugs and i think the war on drug is dumb. You can also check out 'libertarian' philosophy on it. like Ron Paul or Penn Gillette as other example that disprove you whole futile generalization.
I said this elsewhere, and I'll repeat, here: Presenting "Being gay" as the issue really isn't clear. If you are talking about attraction and desires, then no--it's not a choice. But that's not the problem, and never has been--anymore than my desire to look at another man's wife has been the root problem. It's what I DID with that desire that was a choice. And it would be an insult to humanity to say that we MUST give action to all our desires.
The problem with your "two consenting adults" argument is that obviously, if two consenting adults decide to murder someone, there is a third adult who I'm extremely confident isn't consenting. Pick a different example because that is weak.
jackbaronguy 18 hours ago
@jackbaronguy
"Pick a different example because that is weak."
True as a creationist I agree with you on that one.
I would choose an example like a person committing beastiality because the animal does like it in cases because someone's shown me a video of a cow giving it to a woman. Dirty stuff. So that's consent same as homosexuals consenting.
So it's true consent doesn't really mean it's ok, another example incest or even parent and child going at it (child being grown up)
100pjp001 15 hours ago
@100pjp001 First of all you can't compare homosexuality with bestiality. That's incredibly ignorant and though I'm straight I find it extremely offensive. An animal can't consent obviously because it has no capacity to. As far as an adult child with their parent I think it's gross but if they are both adults when it begins then I guess it's their life they can feel free to do as they please. No children come from homosexuality but deformities can result from incest.
jackbaronguy 8 hours ago
@jackbaronguy
"First of all you can't compare homosexuality with bestiality. "
I just did and I know animals can't talk but apart from that they do like it, as I said it was the animal doing the giving. so it was consented pretty much.
It is their life parents and children at adult age doing it but I'm just saying it is wrong and not a good example to set at all! Like you said it's disgusting. So again my original point "consent" doesn't necessarily make it alright really.
100pjp001 8 hours ago
@jackbaronguy
"though I'm straight I find it extremely offensive"
Offensive? I'm only making a point of why consent doesn't mean good. Not meant to be offensive and it wasn't just beastiality it's the parent/child thing too. There's no way we can look at those things and say there's nothing wrong with it just because it's consented, it's totally sick.
100pjp001 8 hours ago
@100pjp001 But you're confusing consent with ignorance. Bestiality is wrong because it's animal abuse. Parent/child has extremely negative psychological effects because a parent is supposed to protect a child, not be intimate with it. Homosexuality is not sick, it is a basic biological trait.
jackbaronguy 8 hours ago
@jackbaronguy
There is obviously differences between those 3 things but share the 1 thing in common that's commonly used to condone homosexuality. Behaviours that are seen as "gross" now as you just said will be widely accepted in the future. Hope I'm wrong but many things the older generations disapproved of today's world are now not seen as wrong so what will we disapprove of when the future generations arrive I wonder... I hope I'm wrong seriously lol.
100pjp001 8 hours ago
@jackbaronguy
"but deformities can result from incest."
What if they don't care about having kids, better yet what if they want kids but can adopt. What if the "consenting" relationship between parent and child blossomed and they decide to have kids they can just adopt too can't they. Problem solved, that's how gay "parents" have kids don't they become 2 mummies or 2 daddies lol.
100pjp001 8 hours ago
@100pjp001 your argument holds absolutely no water. Your personal opinion doesn't make something wrong. What makes something wrong is when it causes harm to someone. Incest causes harm, bestiality causes harm, homosexuality does not. They aren't the same. They're like apples and toasters-completely different. What right do you have to say that it's wrong?
jackbaronguy 8 hours ago
@jackbaronguy, something is wrong not because it physically or "psychologically" harms someone. something is wrong because it is not of God and pursuing something not of God is empty and causes self-harm (spiritually).
Not even murder is wrong because it harms others. The wrong is always in you turning from God, not the specific way it plays out.
Sudhish86 22 minutes ago
No True Scotsman. "So called Christians" are still Christians.
Antisyzygy 1 day ago
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@Antisyzygy
"No True Scotsman. "So called Christians" are still Christians"
Have you not listened to the video at all? Christians can think or say they're Christians all they like but it's whether they behave like Christians or not that counts. You can't hold Christianity as a religion accountable for disobedience of those who choose to disobey.
100pjp001 1 day ago
Great video! a lot more Christian should have this perspective instead of just hating others for their sins, thanks for the insight, very brave of you to post it on youtube! keep it up
puccalu19 2 days ago
@puccalu19 The "Christians" who say hateful things, are not Christians. The behavior and heart they display is not a Christian one, and certainly nothing Jesus would approve of :)
inkmage80 1 day ago
@inkmage80 thanks for the correction, I totally agree
puccalu19 1 day ago
Thank you for 40% of this video. Mostly for putting those "god hates fags" people in their place
Southerly93 2 days ago
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Your Religion is forfeit. Like its predecessors, it will fade from memory just as the Gods of Rome and Greece did 2000 years ago.
Alman556 3 days ago
How long have you been back? i left the whole religious debate area of you tube after death threats in 2009, so i'm a bit behind the news...
RasputinReview 4 days ago
only thing I disagree with on this video is the consent aspect. "The 2 people that consent to murder someone doesn't mean it's ok because it's consented" The murder victim doesn't consent to it so that ain't right.
The reason why I disagree with homosexuality on is the fact that if most of the world became gay, gay influence is more and more on the rise and it would do some serious damage to the human population.
100pjp001 4 days ago
@100pjp001 Respecting gays peoples will not make heterosexuals peoples become gay...
If you ostracise homosexuals,they will not much more fuck and make babies....
The world is overpopulate...so....
You fail in your judgement....
Hihihihihihoho1 4 days ago
@Hihihihihihoho1
I never said respecting gay people would make heterosexual people become gay that wasn't my point. Kids are gonna grow up thinking there's nothing wrong with being attracted to the same sex so that will encourage them to be gay guaranteed, not all obviously but it will influence and that won't be a good thing in the long run like a lot of things nowadays. People don't see the big picture of what's going on in today's world.
100pjp001 4 days ago
@100pjp001 There is nothing wrong with homosexuality.....The number of homosexuals is still the same rate as before....
You are just another religious hypocrite......You,peoples are so ignorants...
Hihihihihihoho1 4 days ago
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@Hihihihihihoho1
" There is nothing wrong with homosexuality.....The number of homosexuals is still the same rate as before...."
How do you know it's the same rate lol? Are you gay btw?
100pjp001 4 days ago
@Hihihihihihoho1
"You are just another religious hypocrite......You,peoples are so ignorants"
WHAT?? lol, ok look 1 were all ignorant in some way or another, 2 don't call me a hypocrite because were all hypocrites too you see you've accused me of being hateful and a bigot when you've demonstrated yourself to be those things yourself.
Get a mirror and stop pointing at other people, we've all messed up I'm not hating no one nor judging anyone personally, that's not me.
100pjp001 4 days ago
@100pjp001 Religion is a choice.....
A choice made by weaks minds....
Hihihihihihoho1 4 days ago
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@Hihihihihihoho1
"Religion is a choice.....
A choice made by weaks minds...."
There you go again you demonstrate bigotry, hateful and being a hypocrite which you accused me of so what does that make you?
Religious people = weak minds
hmmm say that to those who are university educated and millions like so who are more intelligent than you and me, again you accuse me of ignorance and you just gave me a big demonstration of it lol. There are many intelligent atheists too I know.
100pjp001 3 days ago
@100pjp001 You really think human will disappear because everyone will turn gay?
lolll
Hihihihihihoho1 4 days ago
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@Hihihihihihoho1
"You really think human will disappear because everyone will turn gay?"
uhhh yea LOL what kind of question is that it takes heterosexuals to breed in the first place, the proper way, the original way of making the world go round. What do you suggest if that does happen everyone turning gay make machines to grow babies in what?
100pjp001 4 days ago
@100pjp001 That's a pretty weak argument. Murder is no where near two consenting adults, who love each other- and wish to spend their lives together. Gays don't make other people gay, if you have no desire for someone of the same sex, emotionally or physically- nobody's going to change your mind into wanting it. I have gay friends, they're awesome people, I see them as people- and we've been friends for about 17 years- and I still have no desire to be with men.
inkmage80 4 days ago
@inkmage80
" That's a pretty weak argument. Murder is no where near two consenting adults, who love each other"
That's exactly why I said I disagree with it?
100pjp001 4 days ago
@100pjp001 Oh no I wasn't disagreeing with you on that, my bad I forgot to type in "yeah" I was agreeing with ya ha.
inkmage80 4 days ago
@inkmage80
cool
100pjp001 3 days ago
@inkmage80
Yea homosexuals are nice/cool people I agree with you there I'm just talking about the sexuality not the person and the fact that it's not something you're born with as I've seen people flip flop between liking men 1 minute then having a change of heart. That's the only point I was making there.
It depends what takes your fancy and what inspires you.
100pjp001 4 days ago
@100pjp001 Yeah this is the tricky part. There are people who are born with it, and people who choose it. When my friend came out to me Dec of 1999- long story short lol, we conducted an experiment, which started in Jan of 00, ended it this past summer. Not only are there people born with it, or choose it; but their behaviors are drastically different. Also did some biblical studying, a lot of people who call themselves Christians get it all wrong as well.
inkmage80 4 days ago
@inkmage80
yea there probably are people born with it too. All kinds of sin are passed down genetically. someone who spends most of their life as a professional thief for example there's a chance that their kid might turn out the same way so it maybe the same thing with gay people too.
100pjp001 3 days ago
@100pjp001 The genetic studies of the whole gay thing, have been pretty interesting; even though scientist haven't been able to put their finger on it. It seems to always be on the mother's side however. I know people who have gay parents, and they are not- don't get me wrong I feel the ideal setting is man and woman- being that man and woman are different, and their differences bring something to the table in raising children. But nah kids don't turn gay because a parent was or is.
inkmage80 3 days ago
@inkmage80
They inherit the gay gene from the mother? I see how about lesbians who do they get being a lesbian from? Do you know?
100pjp001 2 days ago
@100pjp001 Yeah so far scientist believe that the gene is carried within the mother- doesn't matter male or female (gay/lesbian). Its actually been hard for them to even do research about this stuff. They get a lot of opposition from extreme right-wing Christian groups- and surprisingly even some left-wing gay activist. It is interesting though that the ones born with it- respond to scent/pheromones of other men, like a heterosexual female- the ones who choose it, do not.
inkmage80 2 days ago
@100pjp001 As a Christian myself, I know that only god knows the true heart of someone- and we will be judged as individuals, and god would not destroy anyone, nor hates anyone who is gay. Only people who have problems when judgement day comes; are those who reject the father and the son (Antichrist spirit) and wish or do harm upon others, with no remorse in the heart. There are sadly people like that out there- just evil.
inkmage80 3 days ago
@100pjp001 As for the other sins- we are warned against them only because when we fall into it; it only makes our lives or the lives of others more difficult- or destructive. The bible is a book of faith yes, but also a book of history- and a guide on how to live your life the best you can, in the type of world we have- past and present. A guy cheating on his wife with many women, isn't sinning anymore or less than a gay guy doing the same.
inkmage80 3 days ago
@100pjp001 God knows us better than we know ourselves- and understands we are imperfect. The people who call themselves Christians, who shun others- or use Christianity to justify their hate, are not true believers of Christ and the father- and are sinning all the same, but even worse- because they allow hate to make their hearts dark- and they distort Christ and the father, which is also quite blasphemous- which is a soul damaging sin.
inkmage80 3 days ago
@inkmage80
Oh yea I agree about "christians" having signs saying "God hates fags" terrible! they obviously haven't studied their Bible properly! No love in these people!
Were all sinners so what right does one sinner have to judge someone else
for being a sinner? no right!
Homosexuality is just another sin along with the sins that everyone else commits.
100pjp001 2 days ago
@100pjp001 Also did studying on how the ancient world viewed it- definitely interesting, and modern day society- including the gay community get it all wrong, basically everyone is wrong about it. It was pretty damn interesting stuff we learned.
inkmage80 4 days ago
@inkmage80
But there have been stories of people who have been such a sexuality most of their life then they switch.
A homosexual man for many years of his life found a religion and now married to a woman he came on some debate program on tv a while back. He said that he has no gay feelings whatsoever any more. So how do you know there are those born with it?
100pjp001 3 days ago
@100pjp001 Oh yeah you're correct, and its one of the things we saw. The people who've classified themselves as homosexual, and then switched; had nothing to do with their sexuality- just sex. They become addicted to the act, and the parts of the man (or female if its lesbians). It also ALWAYS starts with a curiosity too- the other guys we called em group B lol, none of those things were in place, and they didn't care about sex really at all, just companionship and love- sex was last.
inkmage80 3 days ago
@100pjp001 For guys in group B, it was never a curiosity- it was just something normal to em; and they responded to guys the way a heterosexual female does- even right down to being first attracted to the scent of a guy. Of course not ALL men, because eve women are not attracted to every man that comes their way. For the ones in group A- who make it about just sex, none of those things were in play- they just wanted sex, and cared ONLY about the look of the man, and the size of his... lol
inkmage80 3 days ago
@100pjp001 It was just all so very fascinating the things we were learning, and now I become angrier when people say everyone who is gay chooses that- and the guys who are born that way, which by the way aren't that many; there is no praying it away or anything, and most of them live very lonely lives. They don't like gay clubs, or the gay parades, or running about screwing every guy out there. Not to sound graphic or anything- but they also detest anal sex, and did not do that.
inkmage80 3 days ago
@inkmage80
Interesting the variable reasons why people become gay. Detest anal sex?? gay men?? You mean in both ways if you follow me lol?
They live lonely lives yea? hmm all very interesting stuff. What about now with online dating and so on?
100pjp001 2 days ago
@100pjp001 One of the questions we'd always ask these guys, it wasn't just me alone by the way; because we talked to over thousands of guys- 00-11, (I still can't believe we did this for 11 and a half years) But we'd ask "when was it you learned you were gay". The group B guys, could never place an exact period- just said they didn't know what gay was and just felt it was normal to be into boys. Group A, always around high school/college or a bit later- with curiosity at play.
inkmage80 3 days ago
@inkmage80
"Group A guys, if they were in a relationship with another guy; would constantly cheat on their partner- and or be in an "open relationship""
That just goes to show that it's mainly a lustful thing really ain't it. So group b are the committed ones but not very sexually active towards each other so just close buddies they may as well be then really lol. What's the point if they don't make out alot isn't that the point of being an item to begin with along with the commitment?
100pjp001 2 days ago
@100pjp001 [1] Exactly- every guy we kept encountering, who fell right into group A- were all about lust/sex, and nothing else. Many of them were into all sorts of weird fetishes- which got pretty damn scary. Most of the time however they made me very extremely angry, because of the way they treated or viewed guys of group B. Not ALL guys in group A were so nasty though- some of em were as they are, because of some sort of abuse- home, jail, even in military (story from a Russian guy)
inkmage80 2 days ago
@100pjp001 [2] Group B guys, were emotionally, physically/sexually attracted to men much like a heterosexual female is. Though sex was never the main thing, they were far more concerned with personality traits, beliefs, friendship/companionship- and detested any kind of feminization of men, and penetration sex (they did something else, which actually mirrors how men in ancient times viewed male/male relationships- and why)
inkmage80 2 days ago
@inkmage80
"Though sex was never the main thing, they were far more concerned with personality traits, beliefs, friendship/companionship- and detested any kind of feminization of men, and penetration sex (they did something else"
That's weird innit lol, you even get some men out there who would want a sex change in order to be a lesbian XD. I'm sorry but that's just 1 of the craziest things I've ever heard. I'll never understand the mind of a homosexual it don't make sense lol.
100pjp001 1 day ago
@100pjp001 Oh the people out there who want a sex change, I do feel bad for them. When their brains are studied- it actually matches a female. Everything matches a female, except the body and such- and other way around for a female who changes her body to look more like a male. Strange stuff indeed, Drag queens are different though lol
inkmage80 1 day ago
@inkmage80
"Oh the people out there who want a sex change, I do feel bad for them. When their brains are studied- it actually matches a female"
Yea true it's like those who are born with both male and female genitalia, their brain could therefore match either male or female.
It wasn't even drag queens I was talking about, I was talking about men who have a proper sex change into a woman to be a lesbian.
100pjp001 1 day ago
@100pjp001 [3] Funny thing about them though, is they felt as if they were weird, because they didn't like, the things most people think an average gay man would like. They received much ridicule from group A, and felt alone too. They themselves had no idea (most of em), that they were following it in all the ways men viewed it in ancient times- and why. When we'd bring it up to them, many of them would become excited feeling they finally understood why they feel as they do.
inkmage80 2 days ago
@100pjp001 Group B guys, were not ashamed of their sexuality- though felt lonely as I mentioned. Other than that, they seemed like average guys. We'd talk for hours about politics, religion, history, video games, day to day stuff, whatever. The ones who were all into martial arts, and MMA- and would watch UFC, I expected to hear loads of comments about the men, like I heard from group A. Nope- and they'd get hyped up about the fight- pissed if their favorite lost.
inkmage80 2 days ago
@100pjp001 [4] Group B, also did not like to pervert/distort any kind of brotherly relationships. If a guy was more like a best friend/brother to them- they kept it as such, and felt very put off at the idea of the guy they viewed as such- making any kind of sexual advances towards them. The ones who had a partner- never referred to him as "boyfriend" or "husband", they just called em "my guy" "my partner"- they were not trying to emulate male/female relationships like group A does.
inkmage80 2 days ago
@inkmage80
"The ones who had a partner- never referred to him as "boyfriend" or "husband", they just called em "my guy" "my partner"- they were not trying to emulate male/female relationships like group A does."
Wow very strange and baffling indeed but interesting all the same.
100pjp001 1 day ago
@100pjp001 Yeah they thought calling another guy your "boyfriend" or "husband" not only sounded feminizing, but stupid- that was what I kept getting from group B guys. Yeah the whole thing was definitely extremely interesting stuff; learned a lot, changed my view of homosexuality- I mean I never hated anyone who was gay, it was just interesting to learn how it isn't the way most people think- and it helped my friend a lot, since he was the reason we started the experiment.
inkmage80 1 day ago
@inkmage80
"Yeah the whole thing was definitely extremely interesting stuff; learned a lot, changed my view of homosexuality- I mean I never hated anyone who was gay"
I've learned a little bit too now from talking to you. Thanks for the info.
100pjp001 1 day ago
@100pjp001 In group B, there were a lot of Christians- and they weren't fazed by the "god hates fags" crap- they know god doesn't hate them, and knew those people were not true Christians. They also felt that god accepted them, knew they were imperfect like everyone else walking the earth. They faced A LOT of ridicule from (not all, but most) guys of group A, for being Christian, and also not being wacky leftist- but again just being average guys (some above since some were military)
inkmage80 2 days ago
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@inkmage80
"In group B, there were a lot of Christians- and they weren't fazed by the "god hates fags" crap- they know god doesn't hate them"
Good for them! and true indeed God doesn't hate anyone just hates the way "everyone" behaves.
100pjp001 1 day ago
@100pjp001 Group A guys, if they were in a relationship with another guy; would constantly cheat on their partner- and or be in an "open relationship" to have an excuse for promiscuity; even if they got married. Group B guys remained faithful to their partners IF they even had one.
inkmage80 3 days ago
@100pjp001 We actually did form friendships, that still exist with guys of group B- and some of em now want to do things; to change the image the media and modern society views of homosexuals. Group A... Some guys did change, like I'm gathering how this guy did or is talking about. Most of em however stopped talking with us quickly- when they saw sex wasn't going to happen lol.
inkmage80 3 days ago
@100pjp001 Logically, he most likely meant two people as in accomplices. Oh, and if you "disagree" with homosexuality, does it make one homophobic?
SightBlade 4 days ago
@SightBlade
Not necessarily homophobic I've got no problem with them as people I've worked with a few of them and they're cool. I'm just talking about the sexuality not the person and my opinion on why people are gay etc.
Along with homosexuality I disagree with a lot of things people do including me don't mean I have a phobia of myself and everyone else lol.
100pjp001 3 days ago
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My gay christian friend thought getting married would cure him. After 2 years they got an annulment! That's right. For two years neither of them had sex because he could never get an erection with her. Sounds like a choice to me.
ExtantFrodo2 4 days ago
There's more than enough evidence of homosexuality being a choice, an old friend of mine's dad was married then his parents split then the dad suddenly started seeing men. There might be cases of being in denial but the thing is there's also many cases of say men who were genuinely into women then because of bad experiences they get put off by women and start getting into men.
My ex girlfriend's friend into men for many years then she was seeing some girl for abit now she's back to men again!
100pjp001 4 days ago
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@100pjp001 Sorry, but that's just evidence that there are quite a few bisexuals around.
ExtantFrodo2 4 days ago
@100pjp001 Don't you ever heard about bisexual person,stupid?
Hihihihihihoho1 4 days ago
@Hihihihihihoho1
Bisexual hmm that's if you were always attracted to both sexes but I know people that were attracted to the opposite sex for years and never had gay feelings then it just hit them bam and turn totally gay. I've seen and heard of so many cases.
Using the bisexual argument is too convenient really. When living things are horny they'll sex anything it's in our nature. All I'm saying is that the whole natural reason to get horny is to pass the genes on.
100pjp001 4 days ago
@100pjp001 Yeah yeah...people just choose to be gay by fantasy because they really LOVE to be harrass,hate and bash by bigot like you.....It make sense....lolll
Hihihihihihoho1 4 days ago
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@Hihihihihihoho1
" Yeah yeah...people just choose to be gay by fantasy because they really LOVE to be harrass,hate and bash by bigot like you.....It make sense....lolll"
?? You're not making sense now lol. "Bigot" "Hate"? Hmmm do you have a mirror at all? It's ok for you to be a bigot and hateful towards religious people calling them "religious pricks" ain't it.
You see I haven't done any name calling I'm only giving my opinion about the sexuality, am I not allowed to express my opinion?
100pjp001 4 days ago
Born again, and coontinually deny yourself? Say 5 years down the road you stop denying your desires and live back according to them. Do you stop being saved? Did you leave the kingdom?
PresidentChristopher 4 days ago
I'd like to KNOW what sexuality really consists of. Are men and women REALLY opposites, or is sexuality something else?
PresidentChristopher 4 days ago
@PresidentChristopher
yes men and women are really opposites but you see it is natural to get horny and when that happens were supposed to find the opposite sex so we can find a partner to reproduce with them that's the whole reason for it to begin with to pass our genes. But people will find substitutes and that's why people get gay.
So that to me is why people are gay in my opinion anyway through being sexually active I believe it is a choice really, inspiration. Refer to my other comment.
100pjp001 4 days ago
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This guy says exactly what I've been thinking!
PresidentChristopher 4 days ago
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PresidentChristopher 4 days ago
The point isn't that people are homosexual by choice, it's whether or not homosexuality is a sin. There are plenty of homosexuals that are christian and still are attracted to the same gender. They want to make it clear to those arrogant and ignorant religious people that homosexuality is not sinful. Even though you tell them it is and they are wrong, because of a book that was written 2000 years ago, by people who would sell their daughters into marriage for livestock.
C00terMcShooter 5 days ago
Could NOT have said it better myself. For a long time, I was wondering, "if it's a choice, then why do they just NOT choose to do it"???? Because, a porn-addict doesn't just get rid of his addiction overnight. Nor does a thief, nor does a liar. There's a process you must go through first. I heard a testimony on the radio of a man who had homosexual desires, but he learned that his desires began to dwindle when he hung with his christian friends. Over time, he left the homosexual lifestyle.
XGreenBayPackerfanX 5 days ago
This guy is of excellent character wisdom and grace.His parents did a very good job.All men are slaves to sin powerless to certain propensitys.Right, homsexuality is not a choice.However instincts to some extent can be disciplined.There are homosexuals whom within the way of life become deviant Not unlike some who like women but deviate from the natural sex act.Powerless homosexuality is the correct approach .But how many admit powerlessness for change.? Few accept to fight the passion.
polopowers1 6 days ago
@polopowers1 Hey stupid.Who a homosexual fuck is really not your fucking business...
Back off,nasty religious prick...
Hihihihihihoho1 4 days ago
I Praise God when I hear about christians loving there fellow man. Homosexuality is a part of our sin nature just as venomFanx says in this video...but more importantly what God says in scripture. Amen Brother and I am proud to be your brother when you take this view and tell it to the world as you did. Awesome representaion. I haven't watched anything else you did but the title caught my eye. Praise God for christians opening their eyes to the truth of Homosexuality!!!!!!!!! Glory to God alone!
DKBaha1 6 days ago
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VFX are you trying say that you are gay? Did you ever look what your imaginary friend is telling about gay in the old testament?
KriticusPospolitus 1 week ago
I don't agree with you but it is nice to see you have become more accepting. Baby steps :)
PersonallyOptimistic 1 week ago
Is this the real venomfangx?
Yewon2001 1 week ago
Well done; you've changed my mind to some extent. I think people can choose to practice homosexuality as a result of following a life of sexual promiscuity (I've seen this happen), but I think you make a good point. My experience may be with people who are not actually gay (i.e. born with homosexual tendencies). I have a cousin that is gay who is a Christian. I may share this with him.
theplaintruth777 1 week ago
@theplaintruth777 You do realize that the guy making this video is totally crazy right? I'd advice you to read some real science on homosexuality on the internet because taking advice from this guy is like driving of a cliff.
lnmylife 1 week ago
@lnmylife I'm not sure if this guy is crazy; I don't know him. But I understand that homosexuality is a sin no different than any other sexually deviant sin. I was once addicted to pornography, but by the grace of God I am free. I view homosexuality no differently. We all have things we struggle with that we must overcome. I guess I must have made it clear that I am a Christian? If you are not, then you will have no idea where I am coming from.
pilgrimbobbyc31 1 week ago
@pilgrimbobbyc31 Whoops, I guess I should make it clear also that I have two screennames, pilgrimbobbyc31 and theplaintruth777. Sorry for the confusion of responding to a post under one name with my other screenname :)
pilgrimbobbyc31 1 week ago
@pilgrimbobbyc31 I've got a very good idea where you are coming from, both of you are crazy. I feel sad for that cousin of yours.
lnmylife 1 week ago
@lnmylife interesting... I love my cousin and respond to him in love. I don't treat him any differently than I do anyone else. I certainly don't call him crazy or any other such nonsense. I'm sorry you are seem to be so full of hate that you think it is necessary to bash me on here. I truly hope you find contentment enough to allow people to have differing points of view without calling them names. If you are comfortable with your point of view, you shouldn't feel threatened by opposing ones.
pilgrimbobbyc31 1 week ago
@pilgrimbobbyc31 >Implying I'm feeling threatened >Implying I call your brother crazy >Implying that I'm full of hate >Implying you aren't crazy
lnmylife 1 week ago
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What the fuck... ?
jackliquidwilso 1 week ago
I've been looking for a good pro-christian video on youtube. This is the first one that makes sense.
MrZoltontheFirst 1 week ago
I'm athiest, but i respect you more than any christian i know. respect.
andriaaam 1 week ago
Thank you for sharing God's Word
BonjourBit 1 week ago
Being Black or White on the other hand, is not a choice, u are born with that because its a physical attribute. something you cant choose
xxSuperNoVa103xx 1 week ago
its a choice, you can choose not to be gay, or you can choose to be
xxSuperNoVa103xx 1 week ago
@xxSuperNoVa103xx Oh yup. Sure. Kinda like you can choose to have a penis and a vagina, cuzz you know...what ur born naturally with u can always choose.
Integrity0095 1 week ago
@xxSuperNoVa103xx What?? No you can't. Do you choose to be straight? No. You just feel compelled to like the opposite gender. It's like saying "You choose to be straight".
Zeddersk 1 week ago 2
@xxSuperNoVa103xx sexual orientation is in the brain, a biological thing.
PointlessSteel 6 days ago
mmmm
HunkyPoliceOfficer 1 week ago
He is specifically saying that some people are born with. or choice) a different sexuality- In this case, eunuchs- But he mentions those 'born this way'- A reference to Hermaphrodites in biblical times? not likely.... Is he saying that some people are born castrated? Not hardly....This is a reference to any male or female who possesses aspects of the opposite sex- This would be a common theological topic in those days, as traditionally, religious leaders were gay (not so different now)
hexum7 1 week ago
@Reformation2000
PEDOPHILES ALSO INSIST THEY WERE BORN THIS WAY AND THEY "LOVE" LITTLE BOYS! HOW ABOUT NAMBLA?
Homosexuality CAN'T be hard wired BECAUSE... Penis wasn't created to stuff it into shit!
PawelKolasa 2 weeks ago
@PawelKolasa This video is not about pedophilia. What part of "between two consenting ADULTS" confuses you? Don't muddy the waters by bringing in irrelevant topics
hexum7 1 week ago
You are not right when you say homosexuality is hard-wired. We are a clean slate when we are born. We do not inherit sins and they do not accumulate as the family tree expands. Every person has the opportunity to take responsibility for THEIR own sins and theirs alone. You don't have to pay for the sins of another unless you are Jesus Christ himself.
arccotangent 2 weeks ago
A) I love the way you went about this, even though you're an extremely devote man and Christianity doesn't embrace the act, which is usually the focus. B) I'm really sorry I'm trying to listen and I did, but you're extremely attractive and I like your voice. And I felt you should know that? o.o
Pentagramy 2 weeks ago
AMEN BROTHER!! <3
rvillalobos849 2 weeks ago
9:16 Two consenting adults having sex does not infringe on another person's right to live. This is a poor comparison. You never explained how homosexuality harms.
10:23 What is natural? We are naturally created with an orientation but the act itself is unnatural? how is that?
10:52 This is subjective. Just because something looks a certain way, it does not necessarily have to serve your perceived purpose.
DarkArktic 2 weeks ago 2
God isn't real, it's only an illusion, quit being a mindless puppet and experience life for what it really is. Quit living in fear of going to "hell"
xbradx11 2 weeks ago
Another hypocrite Christian!
xusmcguy 2 weeks ago
@MulattoZygote gay men make babies all the time- either the usual way with a female friend, or artificial insemenation with a surrogate. Clever gays.....next, They also adopt adopt children that no availible heterosexual couple is willing to take on, loving, Compassionate gays
hexum7 2 weeks ago
you lost me at "I can kill someone without hurting them" You are either absurdly literal, or disingenuous in pretending not to know that 'hurt' in this context means 'harm'. In this context, even lying can hurt others by denying them truth
hexum7 2 weeks ago
@ATLMastering "Look how many "Christianity is stupid" videos there are out there on Youtube and then see how many thumbs up you people give it before even watching the video..."
That's twice you have claimed some preternatural ability to know who has watched a video and who hasn't or how many uncritical thumbs up or down a video received.
You should work for YouTube - your talents are wasted in the comments section.
Terncote 2 weeks ago
i used to feel bisexual i never touched a girl thank god and i didn't want those bisexual feelings, to me it was a nightmare i don't want to offend people who r gay, i don't hate them either, but i didn't want to be bisexual it is harder when you have those feelings and you don't want them but god helps if you ask.That is right we have the ability to choose our actions by biblical perspective in which is wise. your videos are always intensely deep; you speak well god bless
VelvetyThornz 2 weeks ago
@VelvetyThornz Why don't you want to be bisexual?
JohanAtheist 2 weeks ago
@VelvetyThornz God chose you to be bisexual. You can't pray away your own nature
hexum7 2 weeks ago
@hexum7 The Bible does actually support the notion that God can and will change our nature to become more like Him. So the core of Christianity is that we are able to become more than we can possible imagine, in this life and also in the next. :)
Mekelsior 2 weeks ago
How did i end up in this white room?
SLHAndDHI 2 weeks ago
Ok, there's a distinction to be made with your concession comparison: sex between two consenting adults only affects those two adults; murder committed by two adults (who have given consent to conspire and commit the murder) is affecting a third party who has not given concession to be murdered...see the difference?
hustla96 2 weeks ago
The analogy of homosexuality to murder is horribly flawed.
andyfromsheldon 2 weeks ago
@ATLMastering "Atheists don't watch the videos, they just spam the dislike bar to discredit VenomFangX."
Because we all know with absolute certainty that theists actually watch the science videos before they smother them with already long debunked talking points from Answers In Genesis or bible passages.
One anecdote from an allegedly gay man who is now allegedly straight, allegedly due to the intercession of Jesus. How much of that 22 minutes do I need to watch to detect gross observer bias?
Terncote 2 weeks ago
@Terncote I think there's just as much "observer bias" on your side of the fence as well. Look how many "Christianity is stupid" videos there are out there on Youtube and then see how many thumbs up you people give it before even watching the video...
ATLMastering 2 weeks ago
I am not religious but AMEN TO YOU !!!
Robabob1994 2 weeks ago
@D3PyroGS And what does that have to do with THIS video? Ad hominem much?
ATLMastering 2 weeks ago
how can this get more dislikes... wow. talk to any gay person.. they will tell u , if they had a choice, they would not choose to be gay
tnafguy1 3 weeks ago
@tnafguy1 Atheists don't watch the videos, they just spam the dislike bar to discredit VenomFangX. The Youtube Atheist comumunity has had a long history of doing this, especially against VenomFangX. It is a form of argumentum ad populum and poisoning the well.
ATLMastering 3 weeks ago
@ATLMastering yep, spam trolls=atheists
tnafguy1 3 weeks ago
@ATLMastering Ad populum? Fair enough with regard to Youtube, but please consider the preponderance of Christianity and Islam before stating that atheism is "poisoning the well"
hustla96 2 weeks ago
@tnafguy1 "wow. talk to any gay person.. they will tell u , if they had a choice, they would not choose to be gay:
That's a myth. most would have chosen to be straight in their less mature days. Some do think that life would be better if they were straight- but many gays, especially those in a loving relationship do not want to be magically made hetero
hexum7 2 weeks ago
YES. Thank you so much for this video. I agreed with every single word (I originally saw the title and was preparing for a lot of bias, but could not find anything. : ) ) This is how the church should be preaching about homosexuality. May the Lord bless you sir and when bringing glory to his most holy name. : )
taylord109 3 weeks ago
Pornography didnt exist when the bible was writen
Ahern22198 3 weeks ago
@Ahern22198 yes it did.
MrB1ggles 2 weeks ago
@MrB1ggles prove it
Ahern22198 2 weeks ago
Leviticus 20:13 condemns homosexuality. Btw i'm agnostic and have nothing against homosexuality...
Trevman1801 3 weeks ago
@evanlion64 How about not using the bible for a moral base and get your own morals. My morals come from the bettering of human kind.
marybob321 3 weeks ago
Such an amazing video as I've said before. Good revelation.
Bedeborah 3 weeks ago
Dude, you've done an incredible 180 since your old videos! I still disagree with you on the young earth stuff....but agreeing with you or disagreeing with you isn't the point. My point is that your entire tone an attitude seems to have changed from ignorant and arrogant to humble and knowledgeable... and I just want to encourage you to keep it up.
It's possible to stand by your convictions and not be an asshole about it...and you're proving it.
VforVideo 3 weeks ago
God doesnt Hate them...he dislikes there sin...anyways...;) God bless you~
hanasawako 4 weeks ago
I do however agree with you stance on homosexuality
AmazingFutureTrunks 4 weeks ago
I haft to disagree with your analogy because i know firsthand that all sin hurts someone and yes Lying hurts other people because you are concealing the truth from them by planting falsehood into their mind. Jesus gave two commandments the first is love God with your whole being and the second is like unto it love others as you love yourself.
AmazingFutureTrunks 4 weeks ago
Good job. Thanks.
lvgolden 1 month ago
Excellent video my friend!!
I've always asked that - Why don't gay men and lesbian women get together? I've noted in both unions though they are same gender they tend to gravitate toward specified gender roles anyway (effeminate men and more masculine women). So why not unite masculine women with effeminate men? Personality wise I've noted that's what they are gravitating towards the only difference being better suited genitalia.
It's too bad there isn't room for more than 500 characters here
0lCerebratel0 1 month ago
Sin is always a choice, my friend. You are not different from anyone else, because we ALL face temptation daily regardless, of what the temptation is. James 4:7.
Hesaid2Watch 1 month ago
God TOLD us to be"fruitful and multiply"How can you obey God by marrying another homosexual? That is a direct disobedience to God.The Christian life is all about obeying God for everything, so your children will have a much better life in this world! What are you teaching our children when you advertise the homosexual lifestyle as God's righteousness? To spread decease so more can die,even innocent ones? That makes you also a murderer right up there with abortionists. You walk with the enemy.
356Cathy 1 month ago
@356Cathy Ok, so he gave us free will then orders us to act according to his wish... Logical...
AkasEnigm 1 month ago
Do you believe adultery is sin? Do you think these adulterers were born to commit adultery? Same thing my friend, what ever lusts you focus on, will control your flesh, and blinds you from true spiritualness, and a walk with Jesus Christ and His saving grace.
356Cathy 1 month ago
God says that unrepented sin holds us in bondage...you are in bondage.
356Cathy 1 month ago
Hmm, I'm not gay, because I choose not to be..just like gays becoming straight because they choose to change their ways..it takes strength not to follow the flesh, God gives you that strength.Don't twist it into an excuse to sin, (read Romans) that everyone that doesn't repent (turn around) from sin, and trust in the Lord and walk in His ways from now on, will go to the place of torment with the author of sin..satan! No ifs and or butts. God doesn't make exceptions..
356Cathy 1 month ago
No it's because they have abandoned God that teens commit suicide. Of all flavors. What VenomFangX says is love, my friend, as I. We are loving you by warning you of what comes in death. Regardless of what you believe you will stand before the judgment of God, and you will have been amply warned.
The irony is you call this love hate, and then say what you say, and that good people say those things. You are a mess, my friend. Just repent and ask God for forgiveness.
ricaleigh007 1 month ago
@TheWalkingDead000 Your name is not just a little bit ironic, considering your hatred for the things of God has made you callous and dead inside. Spiritual death is where that is getting you in the end. Hell is not a pleasant place. Don't go there. Repent of your sins and you can still have life.
ricaleigh007 1 month ago
@hastyvictories i agree completely.
lizzym55 1 month ago
Romans 13:10- "Love does no wrong to others, therefore love fulfills the requirements of God's law." Love is holy.
lizzym55 1 month ago
Gave u one thumbs up! cuz even though don't want to agree with u, I acknowledge that u might eventually be right!!
aldie2011 1 month ago
No offense to u though, I respect ur perspective, its biblical!! but it really hurts to hear what u r saying! I will just wait for God to tell me that I messed up!! cuz there r people saying that what was meant in the real bible was sex among men with children. but it turned out to be a wrong translation. Cuz the bible does not mention lesbians, and as u know the bible also makes women second class citizens before God. and if u read the old testament there are so many unfair things.
aldie2011 1 month ago
I dont think its only the marijuana smokers who want to justify their behavior, if that was true 53% of the population is gay!
aldie2011 1 month ago
im not religious at all but i dont understand why atheist are commenting saying that this guy is stupid... venom fang x just sharing his opinion about his beliefs
bleda555BC 1 month ago
@bleda555BC If it was my opinion that tree's grow better in the dark due to the light fairies giving them life force, that would be frowned upon and considered stupid.
Having an opinion doesn't protect you from the judgement of your peers, if it's stupid enough.
Sarkosity 1 month ago
Sorry, I don't do drugs and i think the war on drug is dumb. You can also check out 'libertarian' philosophy on it. like Ron Paul or Penn Gillette as other example that disprove you whole futile generalization.
moestietabarnak 1 month ago
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I said this elsewhere, and I'll repeat, here: Presenting "Being gay" as the issue really isn't clear. If you are talking about attraction and desires, then no--it's not a choice. But that's not the problem, and never has been--anymore than my desire to look at another man's wife has been the root problem. It's what I DID with that desire that was a choice. And it would be an insult to humanity to say that we MUST give action to all our desires.
MyOttoLink 1 month ago
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I just want to see if he still requires comments to be approved.