@1977mrcheese fundamentals of a good swing: practice your swing without a ball, high hands at the top of your wind up while maintaining a steady head (no energy used to wind up!), pause, high hands at the finish. everything else in between is a reaction and is very much out of your control. you can't control your car very well at 100+ mph, so why should you think it's any easier to control a golf club at those speeds? you CANNOT automate a swing and still swing fast. it's impossible.
Getting INSANELY PSYCHOTICALLY hostile for NO REASON whatsoever at random comments on YT, is that all you hope for in life? What you just did was insane whether you realize it or not. You need help man. If you listen to Insane Clown Posse and Marilyn Manson on a daily and idolize Charles Manson, you need to stop. Maybe get some new sane rational friends while you're at it. THUMBS UP!
@JAKEHARRIS281 I'm just guessing here, but I think Bridgestone has developed some good product, good enough to get some big names (Freddy, DLIII, Kuchar) into the fold. Friend of mine is a teaching pro and he loves the Bridgestone ball, over the proV1, so he's not surprised there's a few big names on Tour playing them.
E6 is a really good ball for anybody below the level of tour player. Really it is. You'll even see very good players at the state-amateur level and so forth using it.
@emncaity Thats good news man because I bought a dozen. I bought the older box version that looks a bit different than the newer box graphics. I don't know if the ball is any different though? So have you used the e6 and if so what kind of changes did you notice?
@JAKEHARRIS281 doubt it's much different. maybe they changed a dimple position or something. marketing is very strong in the golf world. I had the e6 and they were good. I tend to hit the ball straight any way but yea, they were nice.
You're not suggesting that they--or you, or I--would let an extra hundred thousand, or half-million, determine what clubs we play this year? For shame... ;-)
@JAKEHARRIS281 You are a thumbs up whore, is that all you hope in life? to get thumbs up on random comments on youtube? Go fuck yourself and your father's vag.
@Corncrops Don't let these people get to you. I need to take my own advice I know it's very hard when someone writes a comment really annoying. I gave you a thumbs up don't hate me, lol.
@1977mrcheese fundamentals of a good swing: practice your swing without a ball, high hands at the top of your wind up while maintaining a steady head (no energy used to wind up!), pause, high hands at the finish. everything else in between is a reaction and is very much out of your control. you can't control your car very well at 100+ mph, so why should you think it's any easier to control a golf club at those speeds? you CANNOT automate a swing and still swing fast. it's impossible.
Getting INSANELY PSYCHOTICALLY hostile for NO REASON whatsoever at random comments on YT, is that all you hope for in life? What you just did was insane whether you realize it or not. You need help man. If you listen to Insane Clown Posse and Marilyn Manson on a daily and idolize Charles Manson, you need to stop. Maybe get some new sane rational friends while you're at it. THUMBS UP!
@JAKEHARRIS281 I'm just guessing here, but I think Bridgestone has developed some good product, good enough to get some big names (Freddy, DLIII, Kuchar) into the fold. Friend of mine is a teaching pro and he loves the Bridgestone ball, over the proV1, so he's not surprised there's a few big names on Tour playing them.
E6 is a really good ball for anybody below the level of tour player. Really it is. You'll even see very good players at the state-amateur level and so forth using it.
@emncaity Thats good news man because I bought a dozen. I bought the older box version that looks a bit different than the newer box graphics. I don't know if the ball is any different though? So have you used the e6 and if so what kind of changes did you notice?
@JAKEHARRIS281 doubt it's much different. maybe they changed a dimple position or something. marketing is very strong in the golf world. I had the e6 and they were good. I tend to hit the ball straight any way but yea, they were nice.
You're not suggesting that they--or you, or I--would let an extra hundred thousand, or half-million, determine what clubs we play this year? For shame... ;-)
@JAKEHARRIS281 You are a thumbs up whore, is that all you hope in life? to get thumbs up on random comments on youtube? Go fuck yourself and your father's vag.
@Corncrops Don't let these people get to you. I need to take my own advice I know it's very hard when someone writes a comment really annoying. I gave you a thumbs up don't hate me, lol.
Its interesting, All the teachers try and get you to bend your knees and sit into your right thigh, but Couples shows that the power does not need to come from such a large, uncontrollable muscle.. Its all in his ball striking, rhythm and hips... Also if I was a teacher the first thing I would teach is a lose grip like him.. He makes the club a piece of string.. And holding off the unloading of the wrist hinge. So much more important then some of the stuff I have heard..
pga tour players are a bit overrated , i mean we are surprise about the lenght of his irons , but all of them deloft their irons about 2 or 3 degree , so they 9 iron is like my 7 iron . no wonder when they hit 9 iron from 160, thats not surprising
@sandersuperfollador thats not true. if you dont think their longer than you, look at their carry distances for their driver. i guarantee its farther than yours. and besides their short irons are for accuracy. so that 165 yard 7 iron was an easy swing, i bet he CAN hit it 180 also.last time i checked freddy's average carry with driver is 291. And then it starts rolling down the fairway.
@knockout22 idk man after seeing freddy play this whole year and seeing how much he;s improve with butch i put him 1st of all time, maybe lee trevino second and third ima have to say ben hogan, hogan is just ridiculous when it comes to striking and going through the ball watch some tape
first saw him at colonial in fort worth. his first tee shot looked to me like he was taking something off his swing to make sure the ball was in good fairway position.when i got to his ball it measured 310 yards .he repeated the same syrupy swing all day and never seemed to break a sweat while blowing his ball past the others in his group.
Well, I think we all consciously try to drive our elbows into our sides to establish an inside-out hit, but the plane of his downswing is usually well inside that of his backswing...I damn near break my back trying to mimick that re-routing..
What a true swinging motion--no shoving, levering, pushing, thrusting, etc. (Ooo...sexual...)
Also notice this: You probably know Couples is still really, really long--but he's hitting 7-iron from 164, "a little down the hill." Not a monster 8 or a nuclear-killer-torque-up-on-it-and-hood-the-face 9-iron, but a comfortable 7--from a guy who can still hit it well over 300 from the tee. Not that there's any shortage of speed in that swing--just listen to it...
Well put. I tell all my students that when they're playing poorly, the best thing to do is take an extra club and keep it smooth. It's amazing the trap some people fall into like "look at me, I can hit an 8 iron 170"
I mean, if you teach, or if you play competitively, have you not seen it absolutely ruin people's games? In all seriousness, I have seen people absolutely destroy their games year after year for this one single reason. It's unbelievable.
The pro mentality is simply to be realistic and refuse to care what the number is on the club. I've had days when I could pull a 7 and blast it from 200 with what feels like little effort, but the only time I do that is when contact dictates it. There are other times when I'm not quite hitting it dead on the sweet spot, don't quite have the great release going, when I might hit it 160, or 143 into the wind, or whatever.
Point is, I just don't care what the number is, and I'm going to let the contact dictate the distance on any given day. I see this on broadcasts, where an announcer says "it's 190, he's hitting 6," then the guy hits it 17 yards short (but on the green), and the announcer acts like it was the right club. I really don't know why this is such a problem for people. If it takes you a 7 to hit it 135 and you hit it 10 feet away, you're better than the guy who hit wedge to 35 feet.
@emncaity maybe the golfer mishit it. 185-190 is an average six iron man. and i call complete bs on your 200 yard 7-iron, unless you're rolling downhill 20-30 yards.
Are you kidding me? Couples didn't mishit it. Your problem is that you listen to what announcers say on the weekends. Think about it for a second: They're covering the guys who are nutting it that week in the first place, or they wouldn't be near the lead. They're also frequently calling it 185 to the flag, then the guy hits the green 40 feet short, and it registers as "right club," even though he hit it a little over 170. I see it every weekend, again and again...
@emncaity never said couples mishit it. i see from the video it's the perfect club with the perfect touch. regarding your club distances...why wouldn't you have your base yardage be a representation of a perfect lie, flat conditions, no wind, zero altitude, etc? that's the whole challenge of playing on a tougher course. these conditions (aside from altitude) are NOT going to be ideal more often than not, and that's what makes club selection a little tougher than just yardage = club.
Thought by "player" you meant Fred--so you were talking about the nameless pro who hit it short? My point with that was, you see it so often that it's obvious these announcers are talking about hitting it fairly close to max distance, instead of a realistic distance for that day. Nicklaus was a genius at this kind of brutal self-honesty and realistic-margin-of-error thinking; if Norman had been in '96, instead of planning for perfection every time, he'd have one more Masters.
Re base yardage, yeah, I guess...except that "normal lie" might be better than "perfect lie." But sure, you have to have some idea of your realistic max, then usually down from there. What I'm saying is that sometimes players, and very often announcers, are thinking "max" every time, and announcers really downplay when a guy doesn't hit it as far as the ooh-and-aah distance that the Tour wants you to believe they hit it every time.
Also: It's no accident that the best player in history was best at being realistic about his contact on any given day. I guarantee you there were days when he hit 6-iron into a breeze from 140, if he just wasn't grooving it that day, while other players were trying to kill an 8 or 9 and falling short. Byron Nelson tells the story of when he was doing commentary at his own tournament...
...and Jack came to a 190-yard downhill par-3 where the other guys had been killing 6-irons and falling short all day. Whoever it was in the booth with Nelson said, "I'll bet Jack hits a 7, because he's so long." Nelson says, "I'll bet he doesn't--he'll hit 4 or 5 and get it back there." He hit 4 and put it stiff. That's the kind of thing I'm talking about. Whatever it takes to get it there. There are guys who would lose a tournament to be able to say they hit 8-iron instead of 6-iron.
@emncaity yea i dealt with that today. was striking my irons like garbage, so i had to club up accordingly all round. luckily i didn't fight it and was able to score well. see, i have it in my head that it's pretty mainstay for good golfers to be swinging with 80-85% effort. the yardage i'm talking about is the yardage you get from the 80-85% swing. that's the "ideal". you figure out on the range how you're hitting it before you go play, then you just go with the flow of the day.
@emncaity dunno if you caught it, but nicklaus did it again in the skins game with watson as his partner. tee shot 138 yards into the wind, pulls a 6 iron and hits it within 10 feet for watson to birdie it and win 250 grand. says he didn't want the ball to spin as much so he went with a 6 instead of a 7. tremendous feel that simply can't be taught.
...although 185 is not totally out of joint for an "average" 6, as long as you're talking about perfect lie, no uphill, no wind against. Also, announcers tend to emphasize distance of irons only when it's exceptionally long; watch how they minimize or fail to mention when the distance is notably short. I can remember guys hitting 9-iron into the final hole at Carlsbad from 115 up the hill and into a slight breeze, at sea level, and announcers glossed over it every time.
As for the 200-yard 7-iron, what do I care if you don't believe it? If you read the post, you'll see I'm saying it's pretty unusual. The point was that iron distances vary greatly with conditions and timing on any given day; on a down day, maybe the average with the 7 is only 165 or something, and on a big day when I'm hitting it dead on the sweet spot and conditions are right, 190 is no problem and 200 is in reach. ...(ct'd)
...so anytime you want to come see it, I'll try to have the good stuff going on that day, and we'll make some kind of wager. Meanwhile, the point was, it doesn't matter what the number is; you have to let contact and conditions on that day tell you what to hit, and get your ego out of it. Whatever the yardage is when you hit it well, that's your distance, no matter what it is, no matter what announcers say the pros hit (which is often exaggeration for effect).
@emncaity i understand the idea of "iron shots for accuracy". i base my club selection off how i'd ideally hit the ball vs my tendencies for the day. i don't give a flying rat's ass if donald trump or you hit a 200 yard 7-iron. i just know that for that to be a possibility means their clubhead speed has to be through the roof, or they have a 44 inch shaft on their irons, and iron play just doesn't dictate that. either that or the ball was just plain skulled and it rolled out...
When I'm talking about distances, I'm talking about carry, or maybe carry plus a short bounce, not a roll-out. And as I said, a 200-yard 7-iron is relatively rare for me unless I'm just striping it and the conditions are right (I'm not counting a big tailwind, by the way)--but the point is, it's relatively rare for pros, too. Also, I have standard lofts and +1/2" on irons (have to--I'm 6'3").
Anyhow...as I said, I agree with what you're saying here, although I don't think club selection ought to be based on how you "ideally" hit the ball but how you normally hit it, unless there's a reason (and there is, on some days) to think you'll hit it close to your max distance more often than usual. There are also days when everything is off, I can't find the sweet spot with a bloodhound and I have trouble hacking a 7 more than 160. So if I have a 158-yd shot on those days...
Are you kidding me? Couples didn't mishit it. Your problem is that you listen to what announcers say on the weekends. Think about it for a second: They're covering the guys who are nutting it that week in the first place, or they wouldn't be near the lead. They're also frequently calling it 185 to the flag, then the guy hits the green 40 feet short, and it registers as "right club," even though he hit it a little over 170. I see it every weekend, again and again...
@emncaity never said couples mishit it. i see from the video it's the perfect club with the perfect touch. regarding your club distances...why wouldn't you have your base yardage be a representation of a perfect lie, flat conditions, no wind, zero altitude, etc? that's the whole challenge of playing on a tougher course. these conditions (aside from altitude) are NOT going to be ideal more often than not, and that's what makes club selection a little tougher than just yardage = club.
Thought by "player" you meant Fred--so you were talking about the nameless pro who hit it short? My point with that was, you see it so often that it's obvious these announcers are talking about hitting it fairly close to max distance, instead of a realistic distance for that day. Nicklaus was a genius at this kind of brutal self-honesty and realistic-margin-of-error thinking; if Norman had been in '96, instead of planning for perfection every time, he'd have one more Masters.
Re base yardage, yeah, I guess...except that "normal lie" might be better than "perfect lie." But sure, you have to have some idea of your realistic max, then usually down from there. What I'm saying is that sometimes players, and very often announcers, are thinking "max" every time, and announcers really downplay when a guy doesn't hit it as far as the ooh-and-aah distance that the Tour wants you to believe they hit it every time.
Also: It's no accident that the best player in history was best at being realistic about his contact on any given day. I guarantee you there were days when he hit 6-iron into a breeze from 140, if he just wasn't grooving it that day, while other players were trying to kill an 8 or 9 and falling short. Byron Nelson tells the story of when he was doing commentary at his own tournament...
...and Jack came to a 190-yard downhill par-3 where the other guys had been killing 6-irons and falling short all day. Whoever it was in the booth with Nelson said, "I'll bet Jack hits a 7, because he's so long." Nelson says, "I'll bet he doesn't--he'll hit 4 or 5 and get it back there." He hit 4 and put it stiff. That's the kind of thing I'm talking about. Whatever it takes to get it there. There are guys who would lose a tournament to be able to say they hit 8-iron instead of 6-iron.
@emncaity yea i dealt with that today. was striking my irons like garbage, so i had to club up accordingly all round. luckily i didn't fight it and was able to score well. see, i have it in my head that it's pretty mainstay for good golfers to be swinging with 80-85% effort. the yardage i'm talking about is the yardage you get from the 80-85% swing. that's the "ideal". you figure out on the range how you're hitting it before you go play, then you just go with the flow of the day.
@emncaity dunno if you caught it, but nicklaus did it again in the skins game with watson as his partner. tee shot 138 yards into the wind, pulls a 6 iron and hits it within 10 feet for watson to birdie it and win 250 grand. says he didn't want the ball to spin as much so he went with a 6 instead of a 7. tremendous feel that simply can't be taught.
...although 185 is not totally out of joint for an "average" 6, as long as you're talking about perfect lie, no uphill, no wind against. Also, announcers tend to emphasize distance of irons only when it's exceptionally long; watch how they minimize or fail to mention when the distance is notably short. I can remember guys hitting 9-iron into the final hole at Carlsbad from 115 up the hill and into a slight breeze, at sea level, and announcers glossed over it every time.
As for the 200-yard 7-iron, what do I care if you don't believe it? If you read the post, you'll see I'm saying it's pretty unusual. The point was that iron distances vary greatly with conditions and timing on any given day; on a down day, maybe the average with the 7 is only 165 or something, and on a big day when I'm hitting it dead on the sweet spot and conditions are right, 190 is no problem and 200 is in reach. ...(ct'd)
...so anytime you want to come see it, I'll try to have the good stuff going on that day, and we'll make some kind of wager. Meanwhile, the point was, it doesn't matter what the number is; you have to let contact and conditions on that day tell you what to hit, and get your ego out of it. Whatever the yardage is when you hit it well, that's your distance, no matter what it is, no matter what announcers say the pros hit (which is often exaggeration for effect).
@emncaity i understand the idea of "iron shots for accuracy". i base my club selection off how i'd ideally hit the ball vs my tendencies for the day. i don't give a flying rat's ass if donald trump or you hit a 200 yard 7-iron. i just know that for that to be a possibility means their clubhead speed has to be through the roof, or they have a 44 inch shaft on their irons, and iron play just doesn't dictate that. either that or the ball was just plain skulled and it rolled out...
When I'm talking about distances, I'm talking about carry, or maybe carry plus a short bounce, not a roll-out. And as I said, a 200-yard 7-iron is relatively rare for me unless I'm just striping it and the conditions are right (I'm not counting a big tailwind, by the way)--but the point is, it's relatively rare for pros, too. Also, I have standard lofts and +1/2" on irons (have to--I'm 6'3").
Anyhow...as I said, I agree with what you're saying here, although I don't think club selection ought to be based on how you "ideally" hit the ball but how you normally hit it, unless there's a reason (and there is, on some days) to think you'll hit it close to your max distance more often than usual. There are also days when everything is off, I can't find the sweet spot with a bloodhound and I have trouble hacking a 7 more than 160. So if I have a 158-yd shot on those days...
For sure. The period when I was the longest in my life was when I didn't care about length at all; I started that period just trying to hit the ball in the sweet spot and move the clubhead on the right path. Within a few months I was hitting it so long it was actually hurting me competitively at times--sometimes not knowing when I was going to hit an iron 15 yards over the green. I honestly didn't care what the number on the iron was, but it got out of hand.
For sure. The period when I was the longest in my life was when I didn't care about length at all; I started that period just trying to hit the ball in the sweet spot and move the clubhead on the right path. Within a few months I was hitting it so long it was actually hurting me competitively at times--sometimes not knowing when I was going to hit an iron 15 yards over the green. I honestly didn't care what the number on the iron was, but it got out of hand.
With a swing like that I wouldn't care what I shot- as long as I looked that good. I can't stand to see him blow it on the greens. What a tournament this was!!
els is better
visitnajr 1 week ago
Beau-ti-ful.
BMFProductions 3 weeks ago
i don't know what happened from the last video to this one but i'm now deaf in my right ear.
cyclone4950 1 month ago
Slow motion... Meh his swing... Well... Regular pase. Brb gotta change my pants.
SaySozz 1 month ago
He's all wobbly at the top.
dburrows26 4 months ago
@dburrows26
Seriously?
emncaity 2 months ago
If this swing is not orthodox then I want an unorthodox swing. Fundamentals are obviously important but fitted into your own style IMO.
1977mrcheese 7 months ago
@1977mrcheese fundamentals of a good swing: practice your swing without a ball, high hands at the top of your wind up while maintaining a steady head (no energy used to wind up!), pause, high hands at the finish. everything else in between is a reaction and is very much out of your control. you can't control your car very well at 100+ mph, so why should you think it's any easier to control a golf club at those speeds? you CANNOT automate a swing and still swing fast. it's impossible.
dschultz6072 3 months ago
if he swingz dick like he swingz club, he'd hit the g spot everytime
DaltzV7 8 months ago
Getting INSANELY PSYCHOTICALLY hostile for NO REASON whatsoever at random comments on YT, is that all you hope for in life? What you just did was insane whether you realize it or not. You need help man. If you listen to Insane Clown Posse and Marilyn Manson on a daily and idolize Charles Manson, you need to stop. Maybe get some new sane rational friends while you're at it. THUMBS UP!
JAKEHARRIS281 8 months ago 4
@JAKEHARRIS281 Now, where's the fun in sane rationality?
remmy100 4 months ago
A unique upright swing. Better not try to imitate it.
inmens 9 months ago
I just love he's rhythm
sunkim59 9 months ago
I just love he's rythme
sunkim59 9 months ago
What are some causes of a HEEL shot?
JAKEHARRIS281 10 months ago
@JAKEHARRIS281
Too big a range of possibilities. Depends on what else is going on in the swing. Do you have one posted?
emncaity 10 months ago
0:07 I just came
twice
j2dahop 11 months ago
Does anyone know why Fred chose to sign with Bridgestone? Anyone know why?
JAKEHARRIS281 11 months ago
@JAKEHARRIS281 I'm just guessing here, but I think Bridgestone has developed some good product, good enough to get some big names (Freddy, DLIII, Kuchar) into the fold. Friend of mine is a teaching pro and he loves the Bridgestone ball, over the proV1, so he's not surprised there's a few big names on Tour playing them.
Madisonrvr 11 months ago
@Madisonrvr Thanks, have you ever tried the e6 ball for straight flight?
JAKEHARRIS281 11 months ago
@JAKEHARRIS281 never did........
Madisonrvr 11 months ago
@JAKEHARRIS281
E6 is a really good ball for anybody below the level of tour player. Really it is. You'll even see very good players at the state-amateur level and so forth using it.
emncaity 10 months ago
@emncaity Thats good news man because I bought a dozen. I bought the older box version that looks a bit different than the newer box graphics. I don't know if the ball is any different though? So have you used the e6 and if so what kind of changes did you notice?
JAKEHARRIS281 10 months ago 2
@JAKEHARRIS281 doubt it's much different. maybe they changed a dimple position or something. marketing is very strong in the golf world. I had the e6 and they were good. I tend to hit the ball straight any way but yea, they were nice.
dschultz6072 10 months ago
@JAKEHARRIS281 its called money money money and lots of money.
golfmaniac007 10 months ago
@golfmaniac007
You're not suggesting that they--or you, or I--would let an extra hundred thousand, or half-million, determine what clubs we play this year? For shame... ;-)
emncaity 10 months ago
FRED COUPLES MOST FLUID SWING.......MAN I WANT TO WATCH A PRACTICE SESSION WITH OLE FRED! THUMBS UP.
JAKEHARRIS281 11 months ago 2
@JAKEHARRIS281 You are a thumbs up whore, is that all you hope in life? to get thumbs up on random comments on youtube? Go fuck yourself and your father's vag.
Corncrops 8 months ago
@Corncrops Don't let these people get to you. I need to take my own advice I know it's very hard when someone writes a comment really annoying. I gave you a thumbs up don't hate me, lol.
bigsleep32 3 months ago
that swing was about 110 mph it looks effortless but its not
drwham204 11 months ago
Now that swing was not even 85 mph was it??? How fast does fred usually swing his 7, 6, or 5 irons?? Don't guess.
JAKEHARRIS281 11 months ago
I hate it how one day I'll have a perfect straight cut shot and the next week its darting off to the right.
JAKEHARRIS281 11 months ago
look how still he keeps his head
champ1992 1 year ago
Butter.
elwayxxxii 1 year ago
els is better
visitnajr 1 week ago
Beau-ti-ful.
BMFProductions 3 weeks ago
i don't know what happened from the last video to this one but i'm now deaf in my right ear.
cyclone4950 1 month ago
Slow motion... Meh his swing... Well... Regular pase. Brb gotta change my pants.
SaySozz 1 month ago
He's all wobbly at the top.
dburrows26 4 months ago
@dburrows26
Seriously?
emncaity 2 months ago
If this swing is not orthodox then I want an unorthodox swing. Fundamentals are obviously important but fitted into your own style IMO.
1977mrcheese 7 months ago
@1977mrcheese fundamentals of a good swing: practice your swing without a ball, high hands at the top of your wind up while maintaining a steady head (no energy used to wind up!), pause, high hands at the finish. everything else in between is a reaction and is very much out of your control. you can't control your car very well at 100+ mph, so why should you think it's any easier to control a golf club at those speeds? you CANNOT automate a swing and still swing fast. it's impossible.
dschultz6072 3 months ago
if he swingz dick like he swingz club, he'd hit the g spot everytime
DaltzV7 8 months ago
Getting INSANELY PSYCHOTICALLY hostile for NO REASON whatsoever at random comments on YT, is that all you hope for in life? What you just did was insane whether you realize it or not. You need help man. If you listen to Insane Clown Posse and Marilyn Manson on a daily and idolize Charles Manson, you need to stop. Maybe get some new sane rational friends while you're at it. THUMBS UP!
JAKEHARRIS281 8 months ago 4
@JAKEHARRIS281 Now, where's the fun in sane rationality?
remmy100 4 months ago
A unique upright swing. Better not try to imitate it.
inmens 9 months ago
I just love he's rhythm
sunkim59 9 months ago
I just love he's rythme
sunkim59 9 months ago
What are some causes of a HEEL shot?
JAKEHARRIS281 10 months ago
@JAKEHARRIS281
Too big a range of possibilities. Depends on what else is going on in the swing. Do you have one posted?
emncaity 10 months ago
0:07 I just came
twice
j2dahop 11 months ago
Does anyone know why Fred chose to sign with Bridgestone? Anyone know why?
JAKEHARRIS281 11 months ago
@JAKEHARRIS281 I'm just guessing here, but I think Bridgestone has developed some good product, good enough to get some big names (Freddy, DLIII, Kuchar) into the fold. Friend of mine is a teaching pro and he loves the Bridgestone ball, over the proV1, so he's not surprised there's a few big names on Tour playing them.
Madisonrvr 11 months ago
@Madisonrvr Thanks, have you ever tried the e6 ball for straight flight?
JAKEHARRIS281 11 months ago
@JAKEHARRIS281 never did........
Madisonrvr 11 months ago
@JAKEHARRIS281
E6 is a really good ball for anybody below the level of tour player. Really it is. You'll even see very good players at the state-amateur level and so forth using it.
emncaity 10 months ago
@emncaity Thats good news man because I bought a dozen. I bought the older box version that looks a bit different than the newer box graphics. I don't know if the ball is any different though? So have you used the e6 and if so what kind of changes did you notice?
JAKEHARRIS281 10 months ago 2
@JAKEHARRIS281 doubt it's much different. maybe they changed a dimple position or something. marketing is very strong in the golf world. I had the e6 and they were good. I tend to hit the ball straight any way but yea, they were nice.
dschultz6072 10 months ago
@JAKEHARRIS281 its called money money money and lots of money.
golfmaniac007 10 months ago
@golfmaniac007
You're not suggesting that they--or you, or I--would let an extra hundred thousand, or half-million, determine what clubs we play this year? For shame... ;-)
emncaity 10 months ago
FRED COUPLES MOST FLUID SWING.......MAN I WANT TO WATCH A PRACTICE SESSION WITH OLE FRED! THUMBS UP.
JAKEHARRIS281 11 months ago 2
@JAKEHARRIS281 You are a thumbs up whore, is that all you hope in life? to get thumbs up on random comments on youtube? Go fuck yourself and your father's vag.
Corncrops 8 months ago
@Corncrops Don't let these people get to you. I need to take my own advice I know it's very hard when someone writes a comment really annoying. I gave you a thumbs up don't hate me, lol.
bigsleep32 3 months ago
that swing was about 110 mph it looks effortless but its not
drwham204 11 months ago
Now that swing was not even 85 mph was it??? How fast does fred usually swing his 7, 6, or 5 irons?? Don't guess.
JAKEHARRIS281 11 months ago
I hate it how one day I'll have a perfect straight cut shot and the next week its darting off to the right.
JAKEHARRIS281 11 months ago
look how still he keeps his head
champ1992 1 year ago
Butter.
elwayxxxii 1 year ago
Its interesting, All the teachers try and get you to bend your knees and sit into your right thigh, but Couples shows that the power does not need to come from such a large, uncontrollable muscle.. Its all in his ball striking, rhythm and hips... Also if I was a teacher the first thing I would teach is a lose grip like him.. He makes the club a piece of string.. And holding off the unloading of the wrist hinge. So much more important then some of the stuff I have heard..
ollycopter 1 year ago
pga tour players are a bit overrated , i mean we are surprise about the lenght of his irons , but all of them deloft their irons about 2 or 3 degree , so they 9 iron is like my 7 iron . no wonder when they hit 9 iron from 160, thats not surprising
sandersuperfollador 1 year ago
@sandersuperfollador thats not true. if you dont think their longer than you, look at their carry distances for their driver. i guarantee its farther than yours. and besides their short irons are for accuracy. so that 165 yard 7 iron was an easy swing, i bet he CAN hit it 180 also.last time i checked freddy's average carry with driver is 291. And then it starts rolling down the fairway.
ThePhilinator123 1 year ago
beautiful, the sound is awsome
MrPriceless31 1 year ago
your an absolute beauty couples. good job buddy
Dragonspartymac 1 year ago
@knockout22 idk man after seeing freddy play this whole year and seeing how much he;s improve with butch i put him 1st of all time, maybe lee trevino second and third ima have to say ben hogan, hogan is just ridiculous when it comes to striking and going through the ball watch some tape
helenathena 1 year ago
With that result, i'd take Barkleys swing.
Razz9119 1 year ago
Fred may not be the greatest golfer of all time, but in my opinion he possesses the greatest looking golf swing in the history of golf.
danolson68 1 year ago
I think what makes it look so fluid is his head staying relatively calm throughout the swing
sportsman214 1 year ago
top three best ball strikers of all time? i think so
helenathena 1 year ago
@helenathena
who are the others?
KnockOut22 1 year ago
Fuckin Freddie baby! Love this guy!..That load of them wrists' bad-fucking-ass...
sauce2034 1 year ago
first saw him at colonial in fort worth. his first tee shot looked to me like he was taking something off his swing to make sure the ball was in good fairway position.when i got to his ball it measured 310 yards .he repeated the same syrupy swing all day and never seemed to break a sweat while blowing his ball past the others in his group.
jr55ful 1 year ago
I wish I could pinpoint how he gets that shaft re-routed...he does it in such a subtle manner
phantomlord54 2 years ago
driving his right elbow downward into his side
Nightwing690 1 year ago
Well, I think we all consciously try to drive our elbows into our sides to establish an inside-out hit, but the plane of his downswing is usually well inside that of his backswing...I damn near break my back trying to mimick that re-routing..
phantomlord54 1 year ago
damn dat that swing is like meth, so addicting and makes me want to keep clicking the play button like a chimpanzee
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golfswagga23 2 years ago
What a true swinging motion--no shoving, levering, pushing, thrusting, etc. (Ooo...sexual...)
Also notice this: You probably know Couples is still really, really long--but he's hitting 7-iron from 164, "a little down the hill." Not a monster 8 or a nuclear-killer-torque-up-on-it-and-hood-the-face 9-iron, but a comfortable 7--from a guy who can still hit it well over 300 from the tee. Not that there's any shortage of speed in that swing--just listen to it...
emncaity 2 years ago 14
@emncaity
Well put. I tell all my students that when they're playing poorly, the best thing to do is take an extra club and keep it smooth. It's amazing the trap some people fall into like "look at me, I can hit an 8 iron 170"
CarolinasPGApro 1 year ago
@CarolinasPGApro
I mean, if you teach, or if you play competitively, have you not seen it absolutely ruin people's games? In all seriousness, I have seen people absolutely destroy their games year after year for this one single reason. It's unbelievable.
emncaity 1 year ago
@CarolinasPGApro
The pro mentality is simply to be realistic and refuse to care what the number is on the club. I've had days when I could pull a 7 and blast it from 200 with what feels like little effort, but the only time I do that is when contact dictates it. There are other times when I'm not quite hitting it dead on the sweet spot, don't quite have the great release going, when I might hit it 160, or 143 into the wind, or whatever.
emncaity 1 year ago
@CarolinasPGApro
Point is, I just don't care what the number is, and I'm going to let the contact dictate the distance on any given day. I see this on broadcasts, where an announcer says "it's 190, he's hitting 6," then the guy hits it 17 yards short (but on the green), and the announcer acts like it was the right club. I really don't know why this is such a problem for people. If it takes you a 7 to hit it 135 and you hit it 10 feet away, you're better than the guy who hit wedge to 35 feet.
emncaity 1 year ago
@emncaity maybe the golfer mishit it. 185-190 is an average six iron man. and i call complete bs on your 200 yard 7-iron, unless you're rolling downhill 20-30 yards.
dschultz6072 1 year ago
@dschultz6072
Are you kidding me? Couples didn't mishit it. Your problem is that you listen to what announcers say on the weekends. Think about it for a second: They're covering the guys who are nutting it that week in the first place, or they wouldn't be near the lead. They're also frequently calling it 185 to the flag, then the guy hits the green 40 feet short, and it registers as "right club," even though he hit it a little over 170. I see it every weekend, again and again...
emncaity 1 year ago
@emncaity never said couples mishit it. i see from the video it's the perfect club with the perfect touch. regarding your club distances...why wouldn't you have your base yardage be a representation of a perfect lie, flat conditions, no wind, zero altitude, etc? that's the whole challenge of playing on a tougher course. these conditions (aside from altitude) are NOT going to be ideal more often than not, and that's what makes club selection a little tougher than just yardage = club.
dschultz6072 1 year ago
@dschultz6072
Thought by "player" you meant Fred--so you were talking about the nameless pro who hit it short? My point with that was, you see it so often that it's obvious these announcers are talking about hitting it fairly close to max distance, instead of a realistic distance for that day. Nicklaus was a genius at this kind of brutal self-honesty and realistic-margin-of-error thinking; if Norman had been in '96, instead of planning for perfection every time, he'd have one more Masters.
emncaity 1 year ago
@dschultz6072
Re base yardage, yeah, I guess...except that "normal lie" might be better than "perfect lie." But sure, you have to have some idea of your realistic max, then usually down from there. What I'm saying is that sometimes players, and very often announcers, are thinking "max" every time, and announcers really downplay when a guy doesn't hit it as far as the ooh-and-aah distance that the Tour wants you to believe they hit it every time.
emncaity 1 year ago
@dschultz6072
Also: It's no accident that the best player in history was best at being realistic about his contact on any given day. I guarantee you there were days when he hit 6-iron into a breeze from 140, if he just wasn't grooving it that day, while other players were trying to kill an 8 or 9 and falling short. Byron Nelson tells the story of when he was doing commentary at his own tournament...
emncaity 1 year ago
...and Jack came to a 190-yard downhill par-3 where the other guys had been killing 6-irons and falling short all day. Whoever it was in the booth with Nelson said, "I'll bet Jack hits a 7, because he's so long." Nelson says, "I'll bet he doesn't--he'll hit 4 or 5 and get it back there." He hit 4 and put it stiff. That's the kind of thing I'm talking about. Whatever it takes to get it there. There are guys who would lose a tournament to be able to say they hit 8-iron instead of 6-iron.
emncaity 1 year ago
@emncaity yea i dealt with that today. was striking my irons like garbage, so i had to club up accordingly all round. luckily i didn't fight it and was able to score well. see, i have it in my head that it's pretty mainstay for good golfers to be swinging with 80-85% effort. the yardage i'm talking about is the yardage you get from the 80-85% swing. that's the "ideal". you figure out on the range how you're hitting it before you go play, then you just go with the flow of the day.
dschultz6072 1 year ago
@emncaity dunno if you caught it, but nicklaus did it again in the skins game with watson as his partner. tee shot 138 yards into the wind, pulls a 6 iron and hits it within 10 feet for watson to birdie it and win 250 grand. says he didn't want the ball to spin as much so he went with a 6 instead of a 7. tremendous feel that simply can't be taught.
dschultz6072 1 year ago
@dschultz6072
...although 185 is not totally out of joint for an "average" 6, as long as you're talking about perfect lie, no uphill, no wind against. Also, announcers tend to emphasize distance of irons only when it's exceptionally long; watch how they minimize or fail to mention when the distance is notably short. I can remember guys hitting 9-iron into the final hole at Carlsbad from 115 up the hill and into a slight breeze, at sea level, and announcers glossed over it every time.
emncaity 1 year ago
@dschultz6072
As for the 200-yard 7-iron, what do I care if you don't believe it? If you read the post, you'll see I'm saying it's pretty unusual. The point was that iron distances vary greatly with conditions and timing on any given day; on a down day, maybe the average with the 7 is only 165 or something, and on a big day when I'm hitting it dead on the sweet spot and conditions are right, 190 is no problem and 200 is in reach. ...(ct'd)
emncaity 1 year ago
@dschultz6072
...so anytime you want to come see it, I'll try to have the good stuff going on that day, and we'll make some kind of wager. Meanwhile, the point was, it doesn't matter what the number is; you have to let contact and conditions on that day tell you what to hit, and get your ego out of it. Whatever the yardage is when you hit it well, that's your distance, no matter what it is, no matter what announcers say the pros hit (which is often exaggeration for effect).
emncaity 1 year ago
@emncaity i understand the idea of "iron shots for accuracy". i base my club selection off how i'd ideally hit the ball vs my tendencies for the day. i don't give a flying rat's ass if donald trump or you hit a 200 yard 7-iron. i just know that for that to be a possibility means their clubhead speed has to be through the roof, or they have a 44 inch shaft on their irons, and iron play just doesn't dictate that. either that or the ball was just plain skulled and it rolled out...
dschultz6072 1 year ago
@dschultz6072
When I'm talking about distances, I'm talking about carry, or maybe carry plus a short bounce, not a roll-out. And as I said, a 200-yard 7-iron is relatively rare for me unless I'm just striping it and the conditions are right (I'm not counting a big tailwind, by the way)--but the point is, it's relatively rare for pros, too. Also, I have standard lofts and +1/2" on irons (have to--I'm 6'3").
emncaity 1 year ago
@dschultz6072
Anyhow...as I said, I agree with what you're saying here, although I don't think club selection ought to be based on how you "ideally" hit the ball but how you normally hit it, unless there's a reason (and there is, on some days) to think you'll hit it close to your max distance more often than usual. There are also days when everything is off, I can't find the sweet spot with a bloodhound and I have trouble hacking a 7 more than 160. So if I have a 158-yd shot on those days...
emncaity 1 year ago
@emncaity why dont you choads just call each other for your convos
bicklesby1 1 year ago
@dschultz6072
Are you kidding me? Couples didn't mishit it. Your problem is that you listen to what announcers say on the weekends. Think about it for a second: They're covering the guys who are nutting it that week in the first place, or they wouldn't be near the lead. They're also frequently calling it 185 to the flag, then the guy hits the green 40 feet short, and it registers as "right club," even though he hit it a little over 170. I see it every weekend, again and again...
emncaity 1 year ago
@emncaity never said couples mishit it. i see from the video it's the perfect club with the perfect touch. regarding your club distances...why wouldn't you have your base yardage be a representation of a perfect lie, flat conditions, no wind, zero altitude, etc? that's the whole challenge of playing on a tougher course. these conditions (aside from altitude) are NOT going to be ideal more often than not, and that's what makes club selection a little tougher than just yardage = club.
dschultz6072 1 year ago
@dschultz6072
Thought by "player" you meant Fred--so you were talking about the nameless pro who hit it short? My point with that was, you see it so often that it's obvious these announcers are talking about hitting it fairly close to max distance, instead of a realistic distance for that day. Nicklaus was a genius at this kind of brutal self-honesty and realistic-margin-of-error thinking; if Norman had been in '96, instead of planning for perfection every time, he'd have one more Masters.
emncaity 1 year ago
@dschultz6072
Re base yardage, yeah, I guess...except that "normal lie" might be better than "perfect lie." But sure, you have to have some idea of your realistic max, then usually down from there. What I'm saying is that sometimes players, and very often announcers, are thinking "max" every time, and announcers really downplay when a guy doesn't hit it as far as the ooh-and-aah distance that the Tour wants you to believe they hit it every time.
emncaity 1 year ago
@dschultz6072
Also: It's no accident that the best player in history was best at being realistic about his contact on any given day. I guarantee you there were days when he hit 6-iron into a breeze from 140, if he just wasn't grooving it that day, while other players were trying to kill an 8 or 9 and falling short. Byron Nelson tells the story of when he was doing commentary at his own tournament...
emncaity 1 year ago
...and Jack came to a 190-yard downhill par-3 where the other guys had been killing 6-irons and falling short all day. Whoever it was in the booth with Nelson said, "I'll bet Jack hits a 7, because he's so long." Nelson says, "I'll bet he doesn't--he'll hit 4 or 5 and get it back there." He hit 4 and put it stiff. That's the kind of thing I'm talking about. Whatever it takes to get it there. There are guys who would lose a tournament to be able to say they hit 8-iron instead of 6-iron.
emncaity 1 year ago
@emncaity yea i dealt with that today. was striking my irons like garbage, so i had to club up accordingly all round. luckily i didn't fight it and was able to score well. see, i have it in my head that it's pretty mainstay for good golfers to be swinging with 80-85% effort. the yardage i'm talking about is the yardage you get from the 80-85% swing. that's the "ideal". you figure out on the range how you're hitting it before you go play, then you just go with the flow of the day.
dschultz6072 1 year ago
@emncaity dunno if you caught it, but nicklaus did it again in the skins game with watson as his partner. tee shot 138 yards into the wind, pulls a 6 iron and hits it within 10 feet for watson to birdie it and win 250 grand. says he didn't want the ball to spin as much so he went with a 6 instead of a 7. tremendous feel that simply can't be taught.
dschultz6072 1 year ago
@dschultz6072
...although 185 is not totally out of joint for an "average" 6, as long as you're talking about perfect lie, no uphill, no wind against. Also, announcers tend to emphasize distance of irons only when it's exceptionally long; watch how they minimize or fail to mention when the distance is notably short. I can remember guys hitting 9-iron into the final hole at Carlsbad from 115 up the hill and into a slight breeze, at sea level, and announcers glossed over it every time.
emncaity 1 year ago
@dschultz6072
As for the 200-yard 7-iron, what do I care if you don't believe it? If you read the post, you'll see I'm saying it's pretty unusual. The point was that iron distances vary greatly with conditions and timing on any given day; on a down day, maybe the average with the 7 is only 165 or something, and on a big day when I'm hitting it dead on the sweet spot and conditions are right, 190 is no problem and 200 is in reach. ...(ct'd)
emncaity 1 year ago
@dschultz6072
...so anytime you want to come see it, I'll try to have the good stuff going on that day, and we'll make some kind of wager. Meanwhile, the point was, it doesn't matter what the number is; you have to let contact and conditions on that day tell you what to hit, and get your ego out of it. Whatever the yardage is when you hit it well, that's your distance, no matter what it is, no matter what announcers say the pros hit (which is often exaggeration for effect).
emncaity 1 year ago
@emncaity i understand the idea of "iron shots for accuracy". i base my club selection off how i'd ideally hit the ball vs my tendencies for the day. i don't give a flying rat's ass if donald trump or you hit a 200 yard 7-iron. i just know that for that to be a possibility means their clubhead speed has to be through the roof, or they have a 44 inch shaft on their irons, and iron play just doesn't dictate that. either that or the ball was just plain skulled and it rolled out...
dschultz6072 1 year ago
@dschultz6072
When I'm talking about distances, I'm talking about carry, or maybe carry plus a short bounce, not a roll-out. And as I said, a 200-yard 7-iron is relatively rare for me unless I'm just striping it and the conditions are right (I'm not counting a big tailwind, by the way)--but the point is, it's relatively rare for pros, too. Also, I have standard lofts and +1/2" on irons (have to--I'm 6'3").
emncaity 1 year ago
@dschultz6072
Anyhow...as I said, I agree with what you're saying here, although I don't think club selection ought to be based on how you "ideally" hit the ball but how you normally hit it, unless there's a reason (and there is, on some days) to think you'll hit it close to your max distance more often than usual. There are also days when everything is off, I can't find the sweet spot with a bloodhound and I have trouble hacking a 7 more than 160. So if I have a 158-yd shot on those days...
emncaity 1 year ago
@emncaity why dont you choads just call each other for your convos
bicklesby1 1 year ago
@CarolinasPGApro
For sure. The period when I was the longest in my life was when I didn't care about length at all; I started that period just trying to hit the ball in the sweet spot and move the clubhead on the right path. Within a few months I was hitting it so long it was actually hurting me competitively at times--sometimes not knowing when I was going to hit an iron 15 yards over the green. I honestly didn't care what the number on the iron was, but it got out of hand.
emncaity 1 year ago
@CarolinasPGApro
For sure. The period when I was the longest in my life was when I didn't care about length at all; I started that period just trying to hit the ball in the sweet spot and move the clubhead on the right path. Within a few months I was hitting it so long it was actually hurting me competitively at times--sometimes not knowing when I was going to hit an iron 15 yards over the green. I honestly didn't care what the number on the iron was, but it got out of hand.
emncaity 1 year ago
ITS SO BEAUTIFUL...
cobra42595 2 years ago
man that guy's backswing isn't only smooth and fluid but he brings it back at that speed is incredible.
freespadersuggs 2 years ago
He has great rythmn, but dont try to emulate it.
Try and find your own rythmn which best suits you and this will improve your game!
Gyropatrick 2 years ago
Just replay that sound over and over.
emncaity 2 years ago
Straight cheese, make it rain Freddy.
boomboom960 2 years ago
Straight cheese indeed, Couples for President!
lnLehmansTERMS 2 years ago
If you want to emulate someone's rythmn, Freddy Couples is one of the best examples out there!!
pat52007 2 years ago
Doink.
emncaity 2 years ago
hes just chilln!!
jdhthec 2 years ago
can anybody make a swing path of fred on video?
whammydoom 2 years ago
I need my left nut for my swing. It really ties my swing together.
bunkerputt 2 years ago 2
I've give my left nut to have a swing like that.
danolson68 2 years ago 2
who wouldnt
zeldaman1636 2 years ago
I'd eat my left nut for a swing like that :D
MicrowavedHamster 2 years ago 3
I would eat your left nut to have a swing like that
MJkate 2 years ago 3
Too much nut-eating enthusiasm around here.
On the other hand, it's only a few seconds, for a lifetime with that swing, so...
emncaity 2 years ago
Eating someone else's nut is peanuts. pea-Nuts, geddit?!
MicrowavedHamster 2 years ago
Homemade swings are always sweeter than carbon copy computer assisted swings.
foamjack 2 years ago
What a golf swing so perfect
tkidd22 2 years ago
hes got really soft hands huh
Gamble1011 2 years ago
he has really soft hands doesnt he
Gamble1011 2 years ago
his swing is JUST LIKE butter
u2beoscar 2 years ago
his swing is just too smooooooth! best swing and best finish
sunshinealley 2 years ago
I was there behind the greens just seeing everyone going crazy on this shot! Everyone's there thinking that he had a chance to lead that day.
haoyunlu 2 years ago
With a swing like that I wouldn't care what I shot- as long as I looked that good. I can't stand to see him blow it on the greens. What a tournament this was!!
chrisstaple 2 years ago
It's too bad his short putts have the worst rhythm I've ever seen.
MauriceFameboy 2 years ago 13
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great rythm... crappy swing
GorillaJesus69 2 years ago
this swing looks much more forceful from his younger days. he stills owns the prettiest swing in all of golf.
golfmaniac007 2 years ago
he still drops bombs averaged 299 off the tee thats top 20
Jhawk1127 2 years ago
First Comment!!!!! And what a swing.
HitmanKurt 2 years ago