Chris Paul and Deron Williams Head-to-Head - Jalen Rose Analyzes

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[Crizby]

1 on 1, williams destroys pretty much every pg with his strength. as far as wreaking havoc on the entire opposing team, i say paul, because his weeving style is so unpredictable and throws off the defensive rotation

[verizonpsp]

NEW JERSEY NETS GOT DWILL BABE

[edgarflores10]

Kobe Bryant and Deron Williams

or

LeBron James and Chris Paul

[icecrandor]

@edgarflores10 LeBron James and Chris Paul duh.

[REDRAGON12345]

@edgarflores10 Kobe Bryant and Deron WIlliam duh

[sg960]

@edgarflores10 I'm ridding with Black Mamba and Deron Williams maby soon to be teammates. Kobe will destroy Lebron James.

[deedooc]

Man Im takin da ILLINI himself JASON KIDD JR D-WILL

[wake0321]

cp3 from my wake forest is better.

[mvpbrodie93]

Paul is a better shooter and passer

[mvpbrodie93]

Chris Paul is a better passer shooter rebounder, court vision

[wackybracky2]

@mvpbrodie93 He is not a better rebounder, he has been called on to rebound more. The Jazz over the last few years have been one of the top rebounding teams in the L. They can afford to leak Deron a little and start the break with a big man outlet pass. The Hornets have not had this luxury. Also, when comparing two point guards of this quality it's completely unquantifiable to say that one is a better passer, with better court vision. In my opinion Deron is better in both areas. Apparently

[wackybracky2]

@mvpbrodie93 in your opinion Paul is better. That's cool. It is not a matter of opinion who is the better shooter though. Any coach or player in the league will take Deron over Chris taking outside/midrange shots. Remember it's not all about fg percentage. If that's correct then Ray Allen isn't that great of a shooter. Deron is creating most of his jump shots, and has probably the third best midrange pull-up game in the L behind Durant and Kobe. Paul honestly doesn't compare in this area.

[binning69]

@wackybracky2 Ur forgetting carmelo anthony bud. but i agree with you. kobe, melo, durant and dwill.

[wackybracky2]

Rodman's block and steal numbers. Hmmm not much there. But somehow they're remembered as two of the very best defenders at their positions in NBA history.

Deron is way more fun to watch. He is feared by the best in the game. He has that "hole-plugging" ability that only the great ones have. Chris Paul is a great player, a franchise player. However, a team with him as its best player cannot win a championship. A team with Deron as its best player can.

[wackybracky2]

The point guard position is ridiculously strong in the NBA, and the rules of the NBA have set these guys free to wreak havoc with less defensive hindrance. Because of this there are no true shut-down PGs, no Gary Paytons, left in the NBA.

What D-Will does understand is the value of defense, unlike Chris Paul, and he simply has more ability and a more cerebral approach to defense. Please stop giving steals stats for Paul and proving your ignorance. Go look up Bruce Bowen's steals. or Dennis

[wackybracky2]

help defense, on-ball defense, and size are ALL superior to Paul's! Watch them both play. Opposing PGs routinely have huge nights against Paul because he simply is not as good a defender as Deron. Deron can shut down the smaller, quick models (see: every time the Hornets play the Jazz, nbd) and slow down the larger, strong models (see: Jason Kidd, Derrick Rose, Westbrook, etc.) Granted, Deron is not a shut-down PG. But I challenge you to name me one who is. Seriously, name one. You can't.

[wackybracky2]

Um Chris Paul is a great player. He's a top 8 player in the league. It's just that Deron Williams is in the top 6:) You wanna talk about stats? Go look up the Jazz's possesions per game average. It's always substantially lower than the Jazz. In fact, Deron's assists per possesion average is HIGHER than CP3's! The Jazz have just historically played at a slower pace.

Defense-Paul is a gambler, and as such averages more steals than Deron. Deron's rotations, close-outs, position defense,

[wake0321]

He was a beast at both my Wake Forest but also my AAU basketball team, where I got to meet him, he is not only the best point guard in the NBA and in college at Wake Forest but he is also a great guy.

[kerkymoo]

Hornets Improve bcoz of CP3. Dwill improves because of his team.

[aspenaspen]

@kerkymoo Thats like saying Rondo is a bad player cuz he got 3 good players around him

[kerkymoo]

@aspenaspen this is not about Rondo and especially i didnt mention about being a "BAD PLAYER", you did. Im saying that CP3 is better than D-Will.

Let me share this to you. Do you know why Celtics called "The Big Three? coz Rondo lacks something.

[aspenaspen]

@kerkymoo The big three arent that good anymore. the Star player on the Celtics is Rondo and everyone knows that (and i hate Rondo but KG sucks so ..)

[SwagSoSickRick]

I don't understand why I'm arguing with someone who doesn't know the difference between Al Horford and Al Jefferson

[truerealness]

here's a few stats for all you cp3 lovers..cp3 & DW came Into the league the same year right?? year In the playoffs?? cp3=2..DW=4....times past 1st round?? cp3=1..DW=3....playoff games played?? cp3=17..DW=44

[tonychoitellem]

d-will vs cp3 is like yao vs howard. everyone hops on cp3s and howards nuts and say theyre the best just cuz they have better stats but wen they match up head to head the supposedly underdog wins almost everytime

[H0lyPh3n0m]

I think Chris Paul is better.

Why Deron Williams wins more games is because he has a better team.

Plus, Chris Paul has slightly better stats.

[truerealness]

some of u must not really watch basketball..d-will has won plenty of playoff games..WCF last time I checked..most 20pt 10ast playoff games In the last 3yrs last I checked..more head-to-head wins last I checked..does everything cp3 does but Is bigger & stronger..thats y he can play the SG at times..yall must be krazy!!!!

[animebrawler]

@truerealness Jazz are a better team then the hornets. Chris paul is better in every single statistical category than deron so I have no idea what your talking about. Yes deron has a better physic letting him finish around the basket but chris is better shooter by a long shot. Shot over 50% last year FOR A GUARD. sick

[truerealness]

@animebrawler cp3 only leads DW In these stats by a few numbers..when both the players numbers are at top 3pg In the league u have to look at the play on the court..stats dont matter when Its tied with 2mins left..you have to look at who wins when It matters..DW Is making plays In the clutch to win playoff games..while cp3 Is getting blown out by 50 at home

[animebrawler]

@truerealness Have you seen the hornets line up? There lucky to be even in playoff contention. AND AGAINST the nuggets. Seriously thats just unfair. Iv watched Dwill and I dont see him any different than any other superstar PG just not as good as CP3. CP3 is the better defender by far and then he has a better shot. What else do you want?

[truerealness]

@animebrawler I've seen their line up since he got there..no one complains about the line up when they get 50+ wins..but when then get embarrassed In the playoffs then everyone starts making excuses..same thing with the cavs..now cp3 Is crying for a trade too come on..you can't fault D-Will for being drafted by Utah and convincing the organization to keep pieces around him because they know he's their leader..they traded maynor cuz they knw D-Will can hold It down..NO got a replacement ready

[animebrawler]

@truerealness Lets just see who's team better next year alright? Jazz have the better team to no excuses. Plus now the jazz hav al horford so lets see wat D-will can do with that. Im sorry if CP3 wants to win n leave hornets. That was just a ploy so that the team staff could get him some help.

[SwagSoSickRick]

@animebrawler Al Horford? We have Al Jefferson.. You don't know what you're talking about. And Al Jefferson is better then Boozer did you watch any T-Wolves game at all?

[truerealness]

@animebrawler D-Will Is better than any other PG because he's quicker and smarter than any PG thats close to his size..and he's bigger and stronger than any little fast PG..he's the most versatile and dangerous..cp3 better D?..don't be mislead by the steals stat and the flashiness he plays with..watch how he defends throughout the whole game against D-Will, D-Rose, Billups, Rondo..he's jus too little..no matter how well he plays the first 3qrts..In the 4th he's too little

[SwagSoSickRick]

@animebrawler

Once again. If you think stats determine who's the better shooter you're dumb. Shooting is something that can only be determined by watching players play.

Jason Kidd shot more threes then Ray Allen and on a higher percent is he a better shooter?

Dumb logic

[animebrawler]

@SwagSoSickRick Theres a way bigger difference in your example. Ray shoots quick shots and doesn't have time to think it. Plus its proven he's one of the greatest shooters ever. Chris Paul is better at eveything that deron by a little which when added up is ALOT. On the side of getting his team to the playoffs. He went against a team who couldve won the lakers last year. Fuck it im giving you an UN-BIASED opinion because IM not a fan of either team. Cp3>dwill thats it.

[SwagSoSickRick]

@animebrawler

So because Ray Allen has a quick release it negates that fact that Kidd shoots more 3's and at a higher percent?

How is Chris Paul better at shooting? I already showed you how your shooting at a higher percent logical fails. If you watch Deron and Paul play it's clear who the better shooter if you don't realize that you should watch a Utah game

That's nice I can give you another half of the people in the world to give you an unbiased oppion saying D-Will>Cp3.

[animebrawler]

@SwagSoSickRick that doesnt mean ray cant take a second to think about the shot. Thinking about the shot doesnt affect your release. Chris paul is better in every shooting category even free throws. Micheal jordan once said great free throw shooter are overall great shooters. Chris not only shot better from three and overall field goal percentage but also free throws. Theres only so many excuses you can make.

[SwagSoSickRick]

@animebrawler

Ok let me show you again how your logic fails again.

Larry Bird lower from the foul line. And lower from the three point line. And had a lower fg%

So by your logic Paul is a better shooter then one of the greatest shooters to ever play the game

[SwagSoSickRick]

@animebrawler

And I don't get how Paul is better then D-Will at everything but that's you oppion I guess.

Deron has better Handles

A much better post up game

He's a better shooter

He's better at defending guards who post up

He's a great man to man defender

Ok? Utah went against a Denver team and then Went against the Lakers themselves so what's your point.

If you want to compare Deron vs Denver and Paul vs Denver then you'll see a big difference between being blown out by 58 points and wini

[animebrawler]

@Swagsosickrick

Ball handles dont make you better.Its not to hard to have a post up game for a Point guard considering 90% of point guard dont have post defense. Same goes for defending post. Barely any guards do. Chris is the better shooter as I said. Chris is the best off ball defender and on ball defender between the two.. Basically just look at derons team to Pauls. Who has the better team? Deron. Who's team has better seasons when healthy? cp3s. Derons team had a better bench and 2 all star

[SwagSoSickRick]

@animebrawler

So better Ball handling doesn't make you better? So were ignoring the fact that Deron can post up because guards don't have great post defense? I love that logic.

And you saying Chris is a better shooter once again shows that you don't watch basketball and rely on things like Basketball reference to formulate an oppion for you.

How is Chris a better on ball defender? Chris gets beat more then Deron does.

Deron. What how were the Hornets better? Those Jazz teams had deeper

[SwagSoSickRick]

@animebrawler

Playoff runs also. That's nice I don't get your point so if you're on a better teamyou can't be better then someone? I guess Igoudola is better then Lebron by that logic.

[SwagSoSickRick]

@animebrawler

I love how I already showed you how your logic for saying Paul is a better shooter fails because If we used your logic in another circumstance Kidd is a better shooter then Allen.

And I love how you Ignore Deron's post up game. So Did Jason Kidd's post up game not matter? Did Billupss' Post up game not matter? Did Andre Millers Post up game not matter? Did Magic's post up game not matter?

I don't get your point.

[tonychoitellem]

@animebrawler you are one dumbass motherfucker... thats all i have to say. btw, who is ur favorite basketball player because i see u constantly hate on kobe too

[catonsuckaas]

chris paul has had more team success and is better stat wise nuff said.

[13moneyinthebank13]

@catonsuckaas Really? What team success we are talking about here? Deron led Jazz team went to WCF. I do remember that Hornets got blown out by Nuggs IN NEW ORLEAS by 50 something and have never reached Conf. Finals. Right?

[marchdance]

u remember cp3 own the mavs in the playoffs singlehandedly？

will d-will make it？

[3LP4y017]

@marchdance True Dat XD

[Skittles658]

Sorry Deron is the best. He is ungaurdable.

[morrisgaine1489]

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Chris Paul and Deron Williams Head-to-Head - Jalen Rose Analyzes

[gp38]

dwill is way better than cp3, stats are overrated.

[aznpowerdaniel]

d-will is soooooo underrated

sooo happy he made the allstar game dis yr

[pizzaonurface2000]

deron williams has one playoff games though?

[shockeem3]

paul is way better y.

more points, more assits, more rebounds, more steals and paul win more games deron never win a playoff game chris paul have.

know u know who is better

[pcride3]

You think Deron Williams has never won a playoff game? ...idiot

[CP3DWilll]

no way that dereon is better than chris

chris paul is the best point guard

his game he is so amazing

1.CP3

2.D-Will

[thelblair]

i like cp3 but deron is the man

[Kakarot3000]

Hahaha great 2pac reference by Jalen Rose

[Piotrasdabadman91]

Although Paul has better stats Deron absolutely destroys Paul one-on-one. in 2008 he had 30poins with over 10 assists and Paul had 6pts and 6assists. Mike Krzyszewski also said Deron was the bast on-ball-defender in team USA

[hibachi831]

lmfao like the late great tupac shakur!!! omg

[bluewake27]

I'm a hornets fan but Deron Williams is better

[CP3DWilll]

you aren´t a hornets fan you are a d-will fan

hahahahahahahah

cp3 best pg

[fuGuiCaPoNe]

@bluewake27 you´re not a hornets fan.........IMPOSTOR!

[Warablo1]

Only reason why Pauls stats are better because he has no one on his team, and their offense is so simple. Deron to me is more of a complete player, while running a harder offense.

[dafrezh1]

r u stoopid jerry sloans offense makes d will look gud any gud pg culd strive in his system.. just like stockton did...even wen dwill was hurt his back up pg was doin iight running things...wen cp3 got hurt the hornets were ass

[Warablo1]

Paul wouldn't be able to strive the Jazz, while I think Deron would be just fine on the Hornets. Its much harder for Deron to get assists because of the offense. He is only .3 lower than Paul. If he didn't get injured Deron would of lead the league in assists.

[Ecuadoreanidiot]

really?? ur saying stockton was just the product of a system??

[Lilrook14]

if dwill was better than paul then he would have been in the running for MVP but he wasnt im not saying dwill sucks hes my 2nd fav point guard and besides stop arguing over something like this if you think dwill is better than paul who cares its your opinion

[shreddist14]

not necessarily because i think tony parker was ahead of d-will for mvp votes and tony parker isnt as good as d-will. its cuz deron is in utah, thats why he doesnt get much attention.

[thebeatlesfanatic08]

Dwill just dominated the hornest again.

21 points, 11 assists, 8-10 shooting (80%)

[liandriunreal]

well in a street fight deron would kick the shiiit outta pauls lil bitch azz so how bout that ..hahahaha D-WILL owns paul bitches the intangibles make him better...pual get's more assists because everyone on the utah jazz can pass the ball well

[dwillcougar]

Agreed DWill would kick his little pussy ass! DWill is more clutch and if Deron had a Center like Chandler open for an alley oop all the time he would average more assists.

[thebeatlesfanatic08]

but your right mrjeckel,it doesnt necessarily mean one player is better than another for having more head to head wins, but 10-2 is pretty damn good for d will, also, anyone who thinks kobe is better than lebron at this point in time is blind or a lakers fan. lebron has more triple doubles this season than kobe has for his whole career it seems like (not an actual statistic, but it seems true) the only thing kobe is better than lebron at is freethrow shooting and 1 on 1 defense, LBJ gets blocks.

[thebeatlesfanatic08]

mrjeckel, the jazz havent had their whole team healthy the entire season until 3 weeks ago, d will missed the first couple of weeks becuz of an ankle injury, what happens when the jazz get healthy? they win 12 straight, including wins over the lakers, celtics, hornets, rockets, and nuggets. and your point about the jazz having more depth is true, which means derons numbers are going to be down becuz he has more help, if d will was in NO he would have better numbers than paul becuz he is better.

[stodtmeister]

did everybody hear that. Dwill wins the battle of the 2 best point guards. Dwill #1

[MrJeckel]

dream on. cp3 may lose to d-will h2h but kills every other pg. d-will has slippage some nights so cp3>>d-will. i would reconsider if d-will were in the east and werent under cp3's shadow but for now, my ruling stands

[stodtmeister]

you cant seriously think that cp3 plays awesome every single night. yeah dwill has "slippage" from time to time but who doesn't. Your right, for reasons unknown dwill doesn't get the respect or recognition that he deserves. He's better than cp3, the league will come to realise that eventually!

[utahgs]

It has everything to do with the market that they both play in.

[MrJeckel]

last year, cp3 outplayed 69 of the 82 guards he faced not including the playoffs. try finding a stat like that for d-will. d-will does slip from time to time cp3 is always consistent.

[stodtmeister]

That is absolutely rediculous to say the cp3 is always consistant. Every single player who has ever played a sport has had bad nights. MJ had bad nights but that doesn't mean he isn't the best player in history. Dwill and Cp3 have almost identical stats. Williams was out for many of the games this season with a sprained ankle. If cp3 "outplayed" 69 guards and dwill outplays cp3, than dwill outplays 69 guards.

[MrJeckel]

lol... lol... what? what kind of stupid shit did you say? cp3 outplayed 69 guards last year, more than ANY other pg in the LEAGUE. jus cuz d-will outplays cp3, doesnt mean he can do it to players like TONY PARKER that CP3 did it to... let me put it this way. utah vs spurs in playoffs=lose in 5, tp severely outplays d-will. hornets vs spurs in playoffs, lose in 7 with cp3 playing just as well and even better sometimes than tony. what else do i have to say? cp3 is 20,11,2.8. d-will is 18-10...

[stodtmeister]

of course thats what it means. If cp3 can outplay tony parker, (I dont even know why you brought him up). Then dwill can and has outplayed him. You cant seriously judge dwill because of one playoff series. And where in the world are you getting these numbers? What is your definition of outplaying?

[MrJeckel]

better numbers vs opposing players... which did happen in 07-08 look it up yourself. the thing is that cp3 has the advantage over more pg's in the league than deron does thats fact. thats why he is better.

[stodtmeister]

Think about it, Dwill has been injured most of this season, he only makes 2 points less than cp3 on average, .5 assists less, and 1 less rebound. That really doesn't mean much. Their stats are nearly identical except for the head to head matchups where deron dominates. if paul had better numbers vs. apposing players than dwill was right behind him. Chris paul hasn't clearly dominated any stat, where as dwill has clearly dominated their matchups! There's nothing cp3 can do than dwill can't.

[MrJeckel]

let me see here... cp3=top 2 in mvp voting, d-will=10th i think. cp3=outplays more guards than d-will does. cp3=better TEAM record than d-will this year AND last year. cp3=took spurs to 7, d-will took spurs to 5. cp3=all star 2 years, d-will=all star NO YEARS. just because one player dominates another in matchups doesnt mean they are better. for instance, lebron has dominated vs kobe h2h i believe his record is 10-4 vs lakers. does that mean lebron is better? no.

[stodtmeister]

History doesn't remeber a person for being second in the MVP race. Utah has won 1 more and lost 1 more than the hornets. BOTH are 11 games off the lead. Plus the jazz have not been healthy as a team until about a week ago. Who cares about the spurs? A loss is a a loss. It's not dwills fault that he isn't an "all star" his game speaks for itself. Its just too bad the nba doesn't realise that. And yes, I do think that James is better than Kobe, but thats a different issue all together.

[MrJeckel]

considering the talent d-will has, it even reinforces the point that cp3 is better. d-will has memo(former all star), boozer(all star) AK47(very versatile) brewer(great defender), and on the bench they have millsap)(14-10 i believe) of course d-will is gonna avg 10+ asst. look who cp3 has.ya he has d-west(2 time all star) but he has chandler(only offense is from alley oops), butler(pretty good shooter, thats about it), mo pete(doesnt play), melvin ely(enough said), pose(playoff player)

[stodtmeister]

hahahah, oh please. Now your going to downplay the hornets just to try and get your point across. The hornets are a very good team no matter what you say, I'n not buying it.

[MrJeckel]

sean marks, hilton armstrong, melvin ely, denham brown.... compare that to the bench of utah that has korver, millsap, harpring and i think ak(or brewer i dun really know)... what bench is better? compare chandler to memo whos better?

[MrJeckel]

d-will clearly has better talent around him from 1-12 yet cp3's team has a better record not only this year but even last year. why? because cp3 is more valuable to his team than d-will is to the jazz. you may think im crazy but consider this. when d-will was injured the jazz went what 7-1?8-1? when cp3 was injured the hornets i believe lost 4 straight games. so you tell me who the better player is... you tell me who the more valuable player is to his team... i say cp3.

[stodtmeister]

In February 2008, Deron Williams did something that only two other guys have been able to do in the history of the league(one of them being Magic Johnson and the other Kevin Johnson), it was scoring 1500 points, 212+ assists, and shooting 50 percent plus for the entire month. I dont recall seeing cp3 in that list. The league can say he's not an "all star" all thy want, deron will continue to play amazing basketball and eventually he will get the respect he deserves.

[MrJeckel]

chris paul did something last year that only a select few have done... avg 20-10-3... he had an efficiency rating only comparable to JORDAN. at year 22, he had better efficiency than magic in his prime, kobe in his prime and isaiah in his prime. was d'will on that list? NO.

[SkyzinhaZ]

LMFAO. 1500 points in a month?

Nice 'facts'.

[tbutters321]

o man you could not be more wrong look at utah now that deron is now healthy without him utah would be out of the playoffs

[MrJeckel]

we all know that without cp3, the hornets become the team everyone laughed at, the team that wins 16 games a year and the team that has no relevance. remember, cp3 improved that team by 20 games his rook season without cp3 they would still be winning 18 games a year.

[FOOZ3R]

I agree, i think the only reason cp3 has better stats is his team isn't as deep as the jazz. If dwill was in cp3 spot he would be getting higher numbers. As for mvp votes i think its a popularity contest. people are biased towards the jazz.

[TWheels10]

they both resulted in losing the series so it makes no difference

[MrJeckel]

d-will is great but at this point, cp3 is better. better scorer, assist man, playmaker... what else do i have to say?

[stodtmeister]

Well your wrong of course, you could say that.

[PolymorphProductions]

Lmao, jalen how you gonna use a 2pac reference, hahahaha... you wild.... but you spoke the truth on this.

[memoismoney]

nice analysis Jalen, go jazz!

[ccchrv]

Deron destroys chris paul

[utahgs]

Deron>CP3

Deron has beaten Paul 10 of 12 times.

That's a blow out

[MrJeckel]

deron may have beaten paul 10 of 12 times but paul beats every other pg in the league a lot of times in H2H... overall, d-will has a better jumpshot but cp3 is basically invincible out there 20-11-2.8 cant beat that