Although measuring intellect and even a universal understanding of the definition of intellect isn't very clear-cut, I think "humbleness/humble"(?lol) is an essential characteristic to take into account because it encompass the ability of sceptical enquiry which is vital for understanding and justifying propositions of knowledge and truth of the world around us,
In other words I'm calling religious people stupid - by default xD
When I watch Sam Harris debate it makes me wish there were more of him and he had much more mainstream exposure. I hadn't heard of him until a couple of months ago.
I too wish I had Sam Harris' intellect. The thing is, you don't need it to realize that believing invisible beings manipulating our lives from the sky, is absurd.
i agree, i try to watch as many debates on religion as i can, and try to soak up all the good arguments against theism, and then use them when i argue with theists. Analogies can be extremely powerful.
But the problem I face when discussing with theists is that it's usually a trap. There's no sharing opinion with them, only you/me inquiring or giving examples, and them [theists] spouting nonsensical statements, with no regard to viewpoints.
I can see where they come from (Christian upbringing myself,) but they just lack perspective.
So I just give up usually, or don't even try. Lucky for me there aren't many religious nuts here, but what I see on youtube alone scares me.
@fadfskfsk It scares me that all of you guys are doing everything you can to reject Jesus and not to come in to his open arms... I really hope that you guys will meet God and see for yourselves what life really is about! :D I mean... how'd you feel if you created a whole world and then the world doesn't want anything to do with you even though you created it...? Just give Jesus a try before you argue against him ;) I don't know HOW my life'd look like if I hadn't met Jesus... I LOVE HIM! :D:D:D
@JohanLindhe god is supposedly perfect, therefor he doesnt NEED anything. He does not need us to believe in him. And if he wants us to believe in him, why did he create a world that as far as we know doesnt need a god to work to begin with? Why didnt he leave any tracks? And why doesnt he simply come down to earth and show himself, he could convince everyone in the world in two seconds if he wanted us to believe in him.
@SecularSwede He has created each and everyone of us with his endless love and he cares sooo much that no one can even understand it about EVERY SINGLE PERSON in this universe! :) We cannot yet understand God's mysterious ways and how you can be pure good... we will understand that in heaven :) But we can get a glimpse of heaven here on earth if we follow Jesus! :D Also... what do u have to lose if u just try ;)? And... As far as I've heard many ppl believe that a God must exist(einstein exp)..
@ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz No I'm not ;) I've found the real thing! :D Jesus! :D And... what I also like about Christians is that they wouldn't say something like "wow. you are incredibly stupid" to anyone... I mean that's just rude! :)
@ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz Well... if you guys who don't believe would search and find Jesus and belive the whole world would be like heaven! :D Just imagine everyone being nice to everyone all the time! :D Everyone being able to share their deepest problems with anyone they just met at the street since they can share anything with anyone :) The world would be to awesome to understand! :D
@JohanLindhe I was raised christian. so you don't have to tell me to "find jesus". There is no evidence that he performed miracles or was the son of god. With that said, people are perfectly capable of being good without god. Now take your nonsense somewhere else.
@ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz I wouldn't be rude to you then ;) I'd try to make you understand what really matters in life :) but in an as nice way as possible :)
@ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz I just don't get it... why are you so hostile :)? I mean... I see every person I meet as a potentional really good friend, but you just push ppl like me away... instead of making a new friend or something :) Well bye bye then...
last note... at least try to think as if you thought as you think God thinks :P and try to see what's good in everyone ;)
Svara på det här videoklippet... I felt God's prscence many times when I've been to places where I've been with many other Christians and when we have prayed for each other and for everything :) You get a feeling and you're just soo glad that you don't even know what to do :D You just want other people to feel that joy to! :D I really love God... :D and there are many cases when ppl hav been healed and such when prayed for ;) and also! Einstein said that there has to be a God ;)
@ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz Well... it is personal ;) It's about each persons own relation to God ;) and btw... is that Einstein claimed that there has to be a God "Argument from personal experience" ;)? I want you to be able to feel that endless joy! :D If you don't "try" God for me, at least do it for yourself :D
For all the half-assed analogies people try to use in their debating, Sam actually knows how to be 100% relevant to the point he's making. That's not easy to do.
My favorite Sam Harris argument of all time! Making metaphysical claims without evidence (i.e. I believe you were Elvis in your past life) --> Have no way of disproving it, but it is of course nonsense. The idea of a personal god is just as believable as witchcraft!
A nice counter-weight to the more brutal style of both Dawkins and Hitchens.
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lacks the shotgun power of Richard Dawkins. Sam Harris I find is much too kind.
TheJovanist 5 months ago
lacks the shotgun power of Richard Dawkins. Sam Harris I find is much too kind. HAHHAHA
TheJovanist 5 months ago
I watched that whole debate and by far this is the best bit,, im glad someone picked it out, its so perfect!
Roenazarrek 1 year ago
Harris is going to be a powerful voice against religious stupidity in the coming decades.
beradification 1 year ago
Sam Harris makes it virtually impossible not to intently listen. Logic is intoxicating.
AutoBahnForever 1 year ago 4
Religion is poison, and youtube is killing religion. Thanks for posting, this is very important battle against superstition we are having.
bary1234 1 year ago
That opening alone..."Let me give you a sense of what it's like to be me having this conversation...". Sam is hilarious in a very special way.
DogBoots77 1 year ago 5
Humility
djcondra 1 year ago
Although measuring intellect and even a universal understanding of the definition of intellect isn't very clear-cut, I think "humbleness/humble"(?lol) is an essential characteristic to take into account because it encompass the ability of sceptical enquiry which is vital for understanding and justifying propositions of knowledge and truth of the world around us,
In other words I'm calling religious people stupid - by default xD
lanceawatt 1 year ago
it's too quiet. i can't hear it.
macdahet 1 year ago
The onyl thing I hate about Sam's witchcraft analogy is that I didn't come up with it. lol
MrAlexanderMadison 1 year ago
When I watch Sam Harris debate it makes me wish there were more of him and he had much more mainstream exposure. I hadn't heard of him until a couple of months ago.
LAnonHubbard 1 year ago 2
@LAnonHubbard spread the word :)
TearTheRoofOff 1 year ago
I too wish I had Sam Harris' intellect. The thing is, you don't need it to realize that believing invisible beings manipulating our lives from the sky, is absurd.
niltomega 1 year ago
WOW. Amazingly poignant once again.
amusiathread 2 years ago 4
Sam Harris is a master of analogy. I wish I had half of his eloquence, especially when I debate religion.
alphacause 2 years ago 54
i agree, i try to watch as many debates on religion as i can, and try to soak up all the good arguments against theism, and then use them when i argue with theists. Analogies can be extremely powerful.
SecularSwede 2 years ago 18
@ SecularSwede
But the problem I face when discussing with theists is that it's usually a trap. There's no sharing opinion with them, only you/me inquiring or giving examples, and them [theists] spouting nonsensical statements, with no regard to viewpoints.
I can see where they come from (Christian upbringing myself,) but they just lack perspective.
So I just give up usually, or don't even try. Lucky for me there aren't many religious nuts here, but what I see on youtube alone scares me.
fadfskfsk 1 year ago 3
@fadfskfsk It scares me that all of you guys are doing everything you can to reject Jesus and not to come in to his open arms... I really hope that you guys will meet God and see for yourselves what life really is about! :D I mean... how'd you feel if you created a whole world and then the world doesn't want anything to do with you even though you created it...? Just give Jesus a try before you argue against him ;) I don't know HOW my life'd look like if I hadn't met Jesus... I LOVE HIM! :D:D:D
JohanLindhe 1 year ago
@JohanLindhe god is supposedly perfect, therefor he doesnt NEED anything. He does not need us to believe in him. And if he wants us to believe in him, why did he create a world that as far as we know doesnt need a god to work to begin with? Why didnt he leave any tracks? And why doesnt he simply come down to earth and show himself, he could convince everyone in the world in two seconds if he wanted us to believe in him.
SecularSwede 1 year ago
@SecularSwede He has created each and everyone of us with his endless love and he cares sooo much that no one can even understand it about EVERY SINGLE PERSON in this universe! :) We cannot yet understand God's mysterious ways and how you can be pure good... we will understand that in heaven :) But we can get a glimpse of heaven here on earth if we follow Jesus! :D Also... what do u have to lose if u just try ;)? And... As far as I've heard many ppl believe that a God must exist(einstein exp)..
JohanLindhe 1 year ago
@JohanLindhe wow. you are incredibly stupid.
ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz 1 year ago
@ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz No I'm not ;) I've found the real thing! :D Jesus! :D And... what I also like about Christians is that they wouldn't say something like "wow. you are incredibly stupid" to anyone... I mean that's just rude! :)
JohanLindhe 1 year ago
@JohanLindhe Good for you. Why comment here, though? Most viewers here are atheists. And we tend be rude to idiots like yourself. :D
ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz 1 year ago
@ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz Well... if you guys who don't believe would search and find Jesus and belive the whole world would be like heaven! :D Just imagine everyone being nice to everyone all the time! :D Everyone being able to share their deepest problems with anyone they just met at the street since they can share anything with anyone :) The world would be to awesome to understand! :D
JohanLindhe 1 year ago
@JohanLindhe I was raised christian. so you don't have to tell me to "find jesus". There is no evidence that he performed miracles or was the son of god. With that said, people are perfectly capable of being good without god. Now take your nonsense somewhere else.
ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz 1 year ago 2
@ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz Well why are you rude then ;)
JohanLindhe 1 year ago
@JohanLindhe Because your preaching your faith on an atheist video. That's the equivalent of me posting atheistic comments on a jesus vid.
ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz 1 year ago
@ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz I wouldn't be rude to you then ;) I'd try to make you understand what really matters in life :) but in an as nice way as possible :)
JohanLindhe 1 year ago
@JohanLindhe Great. now go away.
ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz 1 year ago
@ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz I just don't get it... why are you so hostile :)? I mean... I see every person I meet as a potentional really good friend, but you just push ppl like me away... instead of making a new friend or something :) Well bye bye then...
last note... at least try to think as if you thought as you think God thinks :P and try to see what's good in everyone ;)
JohanLindhe 1 year ago
@JohanLindhe Tell ya what. When you prove your god exists, then I'll believe he exists. mmmkay? :D
ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz 1 year ago
@ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz You gotta find that out for yourself ;) and he's your God too...
JohanLindhe 1 year ago
@JohanLindhe Code for: I don't have any. I'd rather have blind faith. :D
ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz 1 year ago
@ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz Just try to listen...
JohanLindhe 1 year ago
Svara på det här videoklippet... I felt God's prscence many times when I've been to places where I've been with many other Christians and when we have prayed for each other and for everything :) You get a feeling and you're just soo glad that you don't even know what to do :D You just want other people to feel that joy to! :D I really love God... :D and there are many cases when ppl hav been healed and such when prayed for ;) and also! Einstein said that there has to be a God ;)
JohanLindhe 1 year ago
@JohanLindhe Argument from personal experience is a logical fallacy. try again.
ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz 1 year ago 3
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@ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz Well... it is personal ;) It's about each persons own relation to God ;) and btw... is that Einstein claimed that there has to be a God "Argument from personal experience" ;)? I want you to be able to feel that endless joy! :D If you don't "try" God for me, at least do it for yourself :D
JohanLindhe 1 year ago
@JohanLindhe you're fucking retarded
Drgamedood 11 months ago
For all the half-assed analogies people try to use in their debating, Sam actually knows how to be 100% relevant to the point he's making. That's not easy to do.
NORW00D 1 year ago
My favorite Sam Harris argument of all time! Making metaphysical claims without evidence (i.e. I believe you were Elvis in your past life) --> Have no way of disproving it, but it is of course nonsense. The idea of a personal god is just as believable as witchcraft!
Whooptie22 2 years ago 30
I watched this whole debate, and the other guy was a total douche
MrQuasar22 2 years ago 11
@MrQuasar22 Agreed. So was the "moderator".
Forkboy28 1 year ago