Riz Khan - China in Africa - 25 Jun 08 - Part 2

[crumcon]

At least the Chinese trade with African countries.. but the white TOOK WHATEVER WANTS FOR FREE for 100 - 300 years

[afroblack1000]

Don't believe that Africa is still waiting for technology transfer from the outside in this time of enlightenment.

African domestic continental investment on African businesses, technological education, technological esponiage and trading African resources to the outside world via a common African currency is the only way forward. Building African pre-industrial cultures from an industrial foundation is the solution.

[commonman80]

Now I'm questioning this sudden "Global Economic Crisis". It may just be a ploy to exhaust China's Financial Resources to prevent them from investing in Africa.

I think perhaps China needs to STOP LENDING MONEY to western countries. If they fall, LET THEM FALL. I don't think they will pay China back and use it as a stepping stone to go to war with China once the money is gone..

[Tigadee00]

China needs Africa's resources, it's true. BUT China is building into Africa, not just handing out "aid" with a large bunch of NGOs, effectively making Africans dependent on Western money for survival. China's building roads, bridges, homes, etc., to build UP nations, in exchange for Africa's resources paid for fairly. China isn't introducing Communism into Africa, and would certainly want good governance in Africa to protect its investments. No oountry is perfect, so why demonize China?

[iliketacosyburritos]

Why did he only have 1 Black guest and 2 White guests? Why weren't there more black guests or any Chinese guests speaking?

I find it funny how all the people who phoned in were african and defending China - most africans have a good opinion of Chinese. I also find it suspicious that they suddenly got an email from nigeria condemning China.

[lamrof]

The west loves to see these rating they came up with, giving African a bad image for themselves. Good then China doesn't give a shit about this western rating, transparency rating, peace rating, crime rating, BS, The west has effectively managed itself to be scared shit-less of Africa. My point is why worry now that China is in Africa and building relationship with us, they did not die, they were not hanged. The west is in the pits of ignorance, lets keep it that way

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@lamrof

Western only like to talk, talk, talk, like the dog barking everywhere without doing any useful thing to African. Chinese is more pragmactic , they know talk cannot solve the problem. This is the different between west and east.

[PrometheanRunGood]

I've never seen so much Western media cliché coming out of one man. Richard Behar needs to think for himself.

[tybash]

Africans only are the ones who can empower themselves.

Not china, not US and nothing else.

I feel sad but if Africans continue asking for help, I'm afraid that help will never arrive.

First: their Africans leaders are the most corrupt.

[tytoso]

lol...most of the leaders are in power for more than 30 years, and are the same empowered by the west , ex: president of Angola lol... how do you want the countries to change? they have the power , the guns, and the money.. if you try anything you gonna be labeled as a traitor , and you know what happens to traitors..

[tybash]

True but sad.

Hopefully one day, Africans will open their eyes. Education is the key.

Colonialism has a lot to do with the current African-crisis but I'm sadden people think China is there to help.

They are all the same, China, U.S, Europe and other Asian countries. Africa should not lose hoop.

[tytoso]

hope so, there are many educated Africans , but they need to be heard, when one of them rises into power things will change, if they trully love their countries Africa has everything to be a superpower.. i hope so.

[afroblack1000]

@tybash . You 've just made the most sensible comment in this forum. Only Africa can help itself, neither China nor the West can bring genuine development to Africa.

[yunga70]

your western people....so funny....what you doing in africa?...you doing nothing,,,,you give loan in hight interest,,,and somuch conditon, but when china come and give more better tha you, you says china exploiting africa......are you some kind stuppid white ellephan????>>>>>>>>>

[lifestraight]

While we may consider China's role as "better" there still needs to be a forum, similar to the G20 summits, that assess and evaluates the economic change China has created in Africa. There needs to be a formal, publicized account of the developments Africa has made that can be attributed to China's presence on the continent. This should be done annually for as long as China is in Africa.

[russiangymfan]

Chinese suffered West's bullish treatment greatly, so they value "mutual respect", a concept that thearrogant west never understands. In the18th/19th centuries, West wanted China's silk, tea, gold, silver,jade and many other goods, but they couldn't offer things that Chinese needed. The result? They used military power to force Chinese to accept their opium! China's royal garden, a world's treasure was looted and burned to ground by those west bullies! They talk about "fair trade"? Shameless!

[HDsharp]

Wheres was the outcry when the west was exploiting africa with their mean business practices, the whites always squeeze has much as they can to the very maxium to the extent of exploitation if they know they can get away with it but at the same time they well invest a great deal of time to present an offer they make and package it to appear its much more generaous then it really is, but most people ignore the small print..:)

[sumangurumanga]

This question should never have come up in the first place. But now that it has, we can only answer it by reframing it. Who are more sincere in their dealings with africa? The Chinese or the Westerners?

[Rakkasans2006]

what the fuck is wrong with you people here. African leaders can think for themselves. If they want to trade with China let them trade. All this colonising bullshit is just xenophobia.

[scotplaya]

I pretty sure the influence of communism will give Africans equal treatment.

[kazuuka]

btw this doesn't make China angels they will if possible exploit Africa as much as possible in terms of pricing and negotiating power and there is now global institutions and bodies that were set thanks to the western world YES the western world! That means it's almost impossible for China to colonise Africa on the same level as previous imperialists have done so show a little appreciation for the West and democracy on that part

[sguardian870]

ya they set these rules up for their own good not for africans ansd they evade most of the major one without consequences. I..e closing their boarders.

[kazuuka]

Lay down rules, regulations!!! Africa can't afford to do that accept the investment and learn from the good and bad side of Asian business and craft that trade into your own Africa. The basics needed for development are things such as improved infrastructure and school education open economy world trade is the way to go!

[inanna2007]

The decline of Africa's share of world trade to a paltry 2% is the fault of the western powers farm subsidies and high import taxes that have roundly closed their economies to African goods while demanding Africa must open its economy.

[inanna2007]

China alternatively have signed deals to enable African goods access.The west hypocritically preaches "market forces" crap only when they have the advantage.Banks bailouts,farm subsidies,protectionist policies etc are exactly what they told the world was bad economics!

[dennischan88]

Western countries are worrying that Africa would united and become a strong country, because Africa countries have resources and man power. This would be a strong nation if they could be united. And at the same time, China is getting strong and rich by trading with Africa.

Could the world leave Africa alone! Being black does not mean being inferior !

[MohammedDawued]

Africa should take care from the China's influence. There are a lot of African small businesses which are out of the market due to chinese cheaper but bad products.

Chinese companies import non-standard products in africa. They are crushing African manufacturering industries.

Africa should takecare from chinese Economic influence, it will be worse for the continent.

[nojobnolife]

Wow White people can do business in Africa, China and India need to step aside

Chinese are colonising Africa wow wow where are Chinese armies and teachers?

China are not treating Africans like slaves

China also writes off debts and help African infrastructure

That white guy needs to keep his smelly mouth shut

[rightisleftupisdown]

At lest the Chinese will build up the infrastructure of the countries they do business with unlike the US and the Europeans who will only build roads from the resources they plunder to where they export it out of the countries. Who the hell is this CIA/CFR stodge is trying to fool?

[mikecsj]

wow~!!!the western countries are so great~!!!!what ever they do is for the best of mankind and human right~~~whoa~~~~western people is the best~!!!

[kurchif]

lmao!  ditto.

[inferno0020]

It supposes to be a good thing for Chinese people to invest in Africa because i am tired of seeing white people playing masters all the time.

Seriously, if Chinese people want to invest in Africa, we need to respect them instead of calling Africans people "monkeys" when we ally with them.

[badraLou]

Your father should have worn a rubber!

[gongchang02]

Yeah, so China is using the African resources for producing consumer goods. US and Europe are using African resources and Chinese goods for personal consumption.

Africa gets reduced resources and CHina gets polluted enviroment, while the west gets lots of people to have time to comment on the rest of the world and criticize people living over there.

[barlog20]

How about America and Britain looting of African resources?.America and Britain is mad that many African countries a`rent allowing them to loot them anymore.

[EsotericDesi]

Before blaming China, Africans need to themselves stop acting like Monkeys first and stabalize their own homeland on their own.

[Kalydosos]

Idiot.

[kurchif]

you bloody white stay away from Africa wherever you are!

China and Africa are friend for good

what you gone do? are you gone exterminate Africans.