@TheKenny4292 Ever read the different versions of the bible that they've been finding in ancient Egyptian garbage dumps (seriously). The different versions are very different indeed. From small details to some pretty big changes.
Such terrorism is as vile as it it is stupid Such threats only make sense from within your box, saying them to someone outside of it is meaningless. It would be like if someone told you that Allah will cast you into Jahannam for rejecting the 5 pillars and that Iblis has blinded you to the truth of Quran.
@TheKenny4292 Your a slave to a mythology mistaken for divine truth. All I can do you wish good luck to see through the shackles of your dogmatic fables. Thor be with you.
@TheKenny4292 You've denied Thor as your lord and savior, but unlike the fascist God you praise, Thor will forgive. DC comics isn't just comics, its truth! Its written down, therefore it must be true right?
@TheKenny4292 What's with those silly guilt trip questions? How about you tell us if would be guilty? Personally I don't care if I meet the commandments standards considering there poorly phrased and formulated. The ten commandments are nothing more than sin list marketing pitch for simple minded people, no offence. Besides, I don't just believe in Thor, I have a relationship with him through DC comics. I hope you find Thor's love before its to late.
1. The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods.
Masquerade your religion as a "personal relationship" as much as you want, my friend. However, please note I could have just as easily used the word "faith" or "Christianity" as a substitute. Don't form an argument on my particular use of idiom.
@TheKenny4292 Yes, when I die, God will undoubtedly judge me... or maybe it will be Allah... or perhaps I'll forced back into the reincarnation cycle... or Yahweh will cast his wrath upon me for following a false prophet... or maybe it'll turn out the Mormons were right... or perhaps the Mesopotamian polytheists had it right all along... Don't worry, I'm not uncomfortable. I simply know that you are far too indoctrinated into religion to look beyond your worldview.
@TheKenny4292 Instead of repeating that "everything came from nothing", at least learn about thermodynamics. Look into what's actually entailed in the Big Bang Theory and you'll realized that the "big bang" wasn't really an explosion that created the universe... We, as a human race, are still looking into the origins of our lives, and the origins of our universe. That's the beautiful thing about science! We keep learning new things, and our perception of the world around us changes, as well!
@TheKenny4292 You've bombarded NightHawkBomber001 and BDNProduction with those same silly questions, so you won't pull me into this ridiculous whirlpool of "guilty/not guilty". My actions undoubtedly have consequences, but I'm accountable for their effects on myself and for others, not for some deity you worship. Only the Bible has prophecies about divine intervention, you say? I suppose you've never read the Koran, or any sacred Hindu texts, or the prophecies of the Bahá'í Faith...
@TheKenny4292 Another problematic situation arises with the question: "IF there is a god, is it YOUR god?" Hypothetically, if the "creation-creator" argument were true, a Christian would have no way of proving that Jesus Christ actually is the one and only god. Likewise, Muslims would have difficulty proving Allah's validity, just as Hindus would have troubles likewise for Krishna or Shiva! For all we know, some far-off African tribal religion might be true in the end... or none at all...
@TheKenny4292 I've heard this argument so many times... unfortunately for you, there are a few flaws. First of all, since everything and everyone needs a creator, who then created the creator? Every painting needs a painter, but every painter needs a set of parents, no? Furthermore, complexity doesn't necessitate a creator - theists and atheists are completely astounded by this universe, but theists believe what they want to believe. They want a god to eexist, so they justify it with the world.
@TheKenny4292 see thats the bullshit thing about this god thing... first they say if we do bad things we burn in hell, if we do good things then we go to heaven, then they say god forgives you anything, as long as you have been baptized. i mean seriously come on?
@TheKenny4292 The story behind my Youtube Account name is long, silly, and... well, irrelevant.
Here are some fun things for you to consider: there's no empirical evidence that supports the existence of your deity! Yay! The Bible is not proof of the Bible's authenticity! Whoopee! Your particular religion is heavily influenced by geography and communal indoctrination! Not surprised there... And, last but not least, believing in something illogical makes it difficult for you to argue logically...
@TheKenny4292 A blind man feels warm, so it must be the sun! Or... or maybe he's standing next to a fire... or a heater... or some OTHER source of heat. Now let's apply that to your situation: You feel a moral and emotional freedom now that you're an ardent follower of this god of yours. It must be divine intervention! It can't be some psychological aspect that affects religious people (of all creeds, including those Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus who are going to hell)! No, no, THAT would be silly.
@TheKenny4292 no it dont concern me. because i dont believe in something some people wrote 2000 years back. and i dont see why anyone else would. for those 2000 years your god hasnt shown himself. and why is that? is he sleeping? watching friends while eating brunch? i hope you know where im going with this...
@TheKenny4292 yea i´ve stolen, been telling lies felt hatred and all that... its called human nature my friend. and by saying those things are wrong, you might as well say beeing human is wrong. and i dont think im sure what you mean, when you say taken the lords name in vain? i dont believe in your great and so so merciful god.
@TheKenny4292 2000 years ago, some idiots thought of a plan to control the population and came up witht he idea of god and the bible. it was an easy way to tell people what was right and what was wrong - and the way they did it is still used today. if i steal something i will go to jail ( hell ) but if i dont steal anything, and obey the law i can keep my freedom ( heaven ) fear based control ladies and gentlemen, and u cant say im wrong because thats how it is.
@TheKenny4292 Well thats one claim. Theres also the claim that 2530(give or take 100 years), a man who became buddha was born and he is the only one to ever reach enlightenment.... And that his path is the only path to Nirvana..
@TheKenny4292 Those who knowingly transgress over Gods law could be punished. Those who do not understand Gods law, why what they are doing is wrong, and are able to make amends when they do understand (in the case of lying, thieving etc cannot be punished at the same standard in a just system
Furthermore the law your talking about has not been confirmed as truth.
@TheKenny4292 I believe that there are buddhists yes. Do I think their religion is the Truth? well I like different aspects of it but I am not a Buddhist.
@TheKenny4292 Have I ever stolen something? Yes, when I was young and Did not understand why it was wrong. Its when You gain knowledge of why its wrong and choose to do it when theres a problem.
@thewayofthemaster... So you guys believe that old gypsies can send you to hell if you piss them off? That we can be cursed through which craft and Go to hell because of that.
@TheKenny4292 Other religions note this to. Heck buddhism says out universe had a beginning, is breaking down and will end. A new one will take its place, break down and have an end, etc. They have no God doing it
@TheKenny4292 "Basic thermodynamics tells us that matter and energy breaks down." Yes but there is evidence to support that it is cyclical in nature and that we will go back into our pre big bang state at some point and then guess what big bang all over again. And sure you have a relationship with your imaginary friend. I am sorry but I live in reality, I do not hear voices in my head that are not my own. Perhaps a psychiatrist could prescribe something to help you with that.
@TheKenny4292 Do you really believe that there is some being that lives outside reality that can merely will things into existence? I mean how is that more probable than there being natural causes for things happening. Which is really all we can base our information off of. And where exactly does it say it is a scientific impossibility that the matter that makes up what we call our universe could not have always existed in some form or another?
@TheKenny4292 The universe as we know it clearly is not eternal, however there is evidence that shows it may be cyclical in nature with expanding and regressing into near nothingness. To instate a god to explain what we do not know is preposterous. And there is far less evidence for any one god that man kind has made up, than there is of even particles popping in and out of existence. See Virtual Particles for more on that.
@TheKenny4292 "Do you believe that everything came from nothing" If this is in reference to the big bang theory, you need to go read it again princess. The theory does not say "everything came from nothing" It says that the universe rapidly expanded from an infinitely dense point. Until this time everything was contained within this point. So everything existed it was just infinitely small, presumably like your creationist brain.
@TheCh1212 Why does it need to come from somewhere? Why can the matter not have always existed in some form or another? And why is it that you assume that a intelligent being can exist outside the rules you apply to everything else? How is this logical? Good point? You assume that this is the best question... Well where did everything come from? Where did your god come from then? Just because we cannot currently explain everything does not mean you instate a "god".
@CtheWolfe It needs to come from somwhere because id be silly to think it came out of nowhere with nothing. And nothing can exist with out something there to create it. And because God is the only LOGICAL reason anything just claims we came from nothing which we proved is IMPOSSIBLE. Everything came from God and nothing created God because God is eternal He has no Beginning nor End. You would know this if you knew what the correct definition of God is.
@TheCh1212 "God is eternal He has no Beginning nor End" So he came from nothing? Or is it that he is exempt from the laws you apply to everything else? How can everything else be applicable to certain laws and criteria without you knowing all there is to know on the subject yet you give something a pass from the laws without any evidence? And if you cant create something out of nothing why can a god do it? Don't you think its silly you give one large exception in this area?
@CtheWolfe Again your using the definition of God wrong. He isnt MATERIAL,He's Spirit thus he does not perish nor was He created to perish. And i cant do it cause im not God (duh)
@TheCh1212 No no, you clearly don't get it. There is nothing to indicate that there is any realm beyond our own. No spiritual realm. This is just made up, its a thought that has nothing to back it up. So you cannot say like you know for sure that he is Spirit and outside our realm. I don't care what other people have claimed. The BBTheory does NOT say everything came from nothing. Clearly you do not understand the theory and are willing to jump on misrepresentations to try to prove a point.
@CtheWolfe If Spirituality isnt backed up by anything,then what separates that viewpoint and saying ANYTHING has not backup because for the big bang theory to be true,the whole cosmos was an accident,the world and its only oxygen life supporting planet was an accident,your and accident,and your beliefs/opinions/and all of your thoughts are accidents.I CAN back up my knowledge of the Spiritual World (Heaven) Because Jesus gave me a new heart a new mind and changed my life and freed me from hell
@TheCh1212 Why do we as humans have to be special? Why does this all have to be for us? That's kinda ego-centric no? I mean had your father not copulated with your mother at that exact moment, had that specific sperm not met with that specific egg and went through the embryonic phases exactly as they did you would not be here? You believe this is some ultimate plan? Random events place us where we are in our live, simple decisions on our part. If we have free will you are a mere chance to exist.
@CtheWolfe We're special because He made us special.No one is EXACTLY the same no?. He created your life,lungs,heart,stomach and a conscience to tell right from wrong. And a World to serve him yet you choose to believe all this was by accident and there is nothing afterward. And sure you can go by YOUR definition of a accident world just by the sperm and the egg yet HOW many sperm are there? Chances are it WASNT an accident that you were born based off of sperm travel.
@TheCh1212 Actually our own individual existence is mere chance. It is the culmination of events and choices factored in with some chance. Like I said had your father not been with your mother at that exact moment you would not be speaking to me. And who's choice was that? Your fathers, god had nothing to do with it. If he did then we have no free will which violates what your bible teaches.
@TheCh1212 Wow you really don't understand this subject do you. Go look up virtual particles. They literally pop into existence apparently from nothing, however the has to be a cause for it, unknown to us at the moment but there must be a cause. A video misrepresenting quotes taking them out of their context is very misleading, if this is where you gather your information you are literally a fool.
@CtheWolfe Im the Fool yet you dont even know whats the cause for these "literally pop"ing into existence virtual particles. Theres the difference i KNOW where we came from,you dont and you wont with your blind thinking. or "at the moment" you dont or wont that is.
@TheCh1212 You do not know where they came from. You claim god dun it. Now lets look at all those that believed god literally created lightning for thousands of years. We know now its basic static electricity. Simple principles. Does god make lightning in your world? Does he dictate when a storm rolls in? Or is it just the factors of the natural world that determine this. I mean we can do these things on our own. Just because we dont know doesnt mean we wont know. So yes you are a fool.
@CtheWolfe You said "I mean we can do these things on our own." Please create a video and post it on Youtube of you created lighting FROM NOTHING and ill give you all the praise in the world. Fact is you CANT,Fact is is that same logic applies to EVERYTHING. Can you create a grain of sand from NOTHING,or a living breathing fully devoped human from NOTHING? of course you cant. Creation proves theres a Creator my friend.
@TheCh1212 "Please create a video and post it on Youtube of you created lighting FROM NOTHING and ill give you all the praise in the world." Merely by rubbing my feet on the ground I can create a tiny lightning bolt from my finger tips using no material what so ever that is not myself. You don't understand this? Are you that dense? You really think god has to create lightning?
@CtheWolfe So skin and friction from that skin is NOTHING. Since your whole body is made of this skin YOUR nothing? Again that makes no sense my friend. Make lighting from ABSOLUTLY NOTHING.
@TheCh1212 You really don't get it do you. The point of the lightning was not that it comes from nothing..... its that people said god had to do it because it "appears" to come from nothing. Yet there is a completely natural explanation for it that does not include god. This is no different than your "Matter exists therefor god created it". There is a natural cause for it. It might be outside our knowledge at the moment (like lightning once was) but that doesn't mean god did it.
@CtheWolfe It seems your not taking my God created everything not very literally did you. I dont know much about lighting other than it comes from molecules/atoms and other microscopic things,yet you think God cant use these things He created to create something else?
@TheCh1212 THE POINT IS PEOPLE ONCE HAD TO IMPOSE GOD TO EXPLAIN LIGHTNING EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS A COMPLETELY NATURAL EXPLANATION. Not that if a god existed they could not create lightning, of course they could. I am using this as an analogy to parallel your example things exist so god did it. Just because we do not know does not mean you instate a god.
@CtheWolfe And leading scientist use to explain the Earth was flat and based that off of NATURAL EXPALNATION. And i dont need to think natural explanations to know a car wasnt made from nothing,it came from metal,just another creation from God.
@TheCh1212 The difference between science and your way of thinking. Science corrects itself when new evidence goes against what was previously thought. Like the Earth being flat. (actually it wasn't science that taught that it was religion) It was also religion that taught that the Earth was the center of the solar system. When Galileo challenged this with Copernicus's Heliocentric theory and was greatly wronged by the church WHO KNEW GOD CREATED THE SUN TO ORBIT AROUND THE EARTH.
@TheCh1212 "Creation proves theres a Creator my friend." Prove that everything was created. Demonstrate it to me? Show me a demonstration of another instance in which a god Created everything? You can't there is absolutely no evidence to prove this was all created for a purpose of any sort.
@CtheWolfe For me to prove that everything was to created i would have to become God and create something from absolutly nothing. Your demonstration is pointless. I can prove theres a creator just by looking at you. Observing your eyes and how they are more complex than any machine or your brain which faster than any computer.Prove is already here.
@CtheWolfe Well you create a LIVING,BREATHING,THINKING,FEELING Human and ill need no further evidence that nothing created something. Fact is,you dont know where we come from, I do. You dont know where we go when we die,I do. If your right i go into the dirt i dont lose anything you cant even tell me i told you so. If im right and we do have a Judgement Day and God Judges us based on his Ten Commandments you still wont get to say i told you so.Il pray for you still because in truth i do love you
@TheCh1212 No one came from nothing. We came from other people are you that ignorant to how life continues? Are you really that ignorant of everything around you? Just because I cannot do it does not mean a GOD had to do it. Really are you that stupid. I mean we are not the pinnacle of everything. How fucking ego-centric can you be to say "Well if I cant do it clearly a god had to do it" Seriously? Go read a book, and not that disgusting bible with all its immorality and hatred.
@CtheWolfe And where did those "other people" come from of course you'd say from "other people again". Fact-you dont KNOW where the first person came from yet you think not only are we here by accident but that we're from a totally different species with no trassional fossils to prove it. And if i thought the Bible was immoral and full of Hatred i probly would be with you cursing at me through a computer,guess that shows how "horrible" the Bible has made me..
@TheCh1212 "but that we're from a totally different species with no trassional fossils to prove it." really? you think there are no transitional fossils? What about Homo georgicus, AL 444-2, the Mrs Ples fossil, KNM ER 1813. KNM ER 1470, Homo erectus, Homo habilis and Australopithecus just to name a few.... But I suppose they don't exist do they. Because according to you there are no translational fossils.
@TheCh1212 Have you read Exodus? Deuteronomy? How about the section in Matthew where Jesus says he comes to bring the sword and turn families against each other? Or Luke where Jesus asks for those who do not wish him to reign over him brought before him and slain? You think this is moral? The few feel good parts DO NOT make up for all the injustice, maliciously vengeful behavior, bigotry, inequality and oppression that book promotes.
@TheCh1212 I love how you are so quick to just jump on the fact that I do not know everything so because I can't explain in intricate detail every molecular step everything happened in for the last few trillion years GOD HAD TO DO IT! Seriously how childish you are for thinking that way. I know enough to know we were not created in our present form, that there are transitional fossils, that there is no need for a god to explain anything yet you think you know without researching anything....
@TheCh1212 The fact is there is such a large amount of transitional fossils for humans alone, it is hard for paleontologists to actually classify them. They are so close to one another some of them that half will classify it in one category and the other in the next. If you are looking for a fossil that is half one animal and half another you are deluded its not how it works. Its a smooth transition between one to the other so slowly you would barely notice it happening.
@TheCh1212 Your complete and utter arrogance stating you know what you cannot just angers me. Fact is I know better where we come from than you do. You just don't bother to look, read or seek the truth to find out, you are lazy and impose a god to explain what you can't bother to figure out. And when we die it will be like before we were born. You remember that? No. Will it bother you? No.
@TheCh1212 I don't know how much I stress that just because something is unknown to us at the moment(we are not at our absolute pinnacle of knowledge, and may never be) does not mean we will never know, or that a god has to be instated to explain it in the absence of the correct answer. People including the church used to teach that the sun moved around the earth. It even says that in the bible. Refer to Ecclesiastes 1:5-6 It says the sun hurries around the earth to the point where it arises.
@CtheWolfe So when you've said that you've seen a Sunrise or Sunset your lying? of COURSE that cant be true because the Sun doesnt set nor rise yet we created a term for it so we could explain it. In the Bible says that they used Burnt Offerings to the Lord and it was a "pleasing" aroma to Him. God has no form yet it was written so that we could understand the meaning behind the words.
@TheCh1212 Yes we have words to describe the sun rising and setting across our sky... your point being? And again look at your burnt offerings.... his prophets believed the smell of burnt animals was actually pleasing to god? Really wtf? I mean you really believe this garbage is true, yet you completely dismiss every other claim of a god?
@TheCh1212 We do not know all the properties of the universe yet you say for certain it needs to come from somewhere? What if there are causes outside what you know for this to naturally happen? As it is in the case of Virtual Particles. God is not a logical reason for anything. Because we do not know does not mean god is a logical reason. We made gods up for lighting because it was so far beyond us 2000 years ago, yet now a school child can tell you what causes it.
@TheCh1212 Do you see how illogical it really is to instate god for what you do not know? No one claims we came from nothing either. I do not know why you are dwelling on this idea. There could be an infinite regress of change and alteration of the conditions that allow for things to naturally happen, this is not nothing. Just as there does not have to be an end to everything either. It might change, degrade, reform and so forth. It might be different but not out of existence.
@CtheWolfe For this response i would like you to please watch this if you would On Youtube its called "Nothing created Everything" the video was made by dikayo and you'll see that ALOT of people have claimed NOTHING CREATED EVERYTHING including some famous people you may know
@TheCh1212 And how do you pinpoint which god created everything and what they really want? I mean there are so many out there, with many followers for a bunch of them. Yet you seem to think you know better than the majority of the world? Its a silly notion. You believe what you believe because your parents told you it was true. Just as you believed in Santa as a child you believe in Jesus. And because many people still do is the only reason you can cling to childish beliefs.
@CtheWolfe Because again.Nothing cant create something. And we know from common knowledge that a building or car can create itself without a Builder or Auto Mechanic. And i know that God from the Christian faith is the one true God because He has revealed Himself through creation,morality and His Holy Word.Gave me new disires.There IS such thing as absolute Truth.If one group of people say the Sun is cold and I say its hot SOMEBODY HAS to be wrong.And nobody died for Santa but Jesus died for you
@TheCh1212 "And i know that God from the Christian faith is the one true God because He has revealed Himself through creation,morality and His Holy Word." How is this any different from any other religion? They all claim the exact same thing. What separates yours from theirs? Muslims claim exactly the same thing.
@TheCh1212 And you literally believe god had to impregnate a virgin, to give birth to himself, to be sacrificed, so that he could forgive us, so that he did not have to punish us? Is this correct? Oh and the whole time condoning and promoting slaver, rape, torture, genocide, war, vengeance, fear and much much more... Before you say this isn't true go read the bible son because thats all in there (commanded by god no less) And this is your proof there is a loving god in the sky?
@TheCh1212 People used to instate gods for the unexplainable. Like lightning, weather in general actually. Yet we now know what causes it and its silly to have gods to govern these things. The existence of matter is not any different just slightly more complicated.
@TheCh1212 Rather than seeking the truth you are merely satisfied with filling the gap of knowledge with one of the many deities there are out there to explain this gap you have, without even realising there is more than we currently know about the universe out there and that there are many possible natural explanations for the questions you pose. Do we know them for certain? No. But we will adventually figure them out in time.
wow,really impacting and true. it seems every wicked son and daughter of adam seems to ignore truth until it comes to their own home being burgled, their own daughter being rapes, their own life being considered irrelivant but praise the LORD that He is Saviour.
tell your self that you self that you cant see, hear ,or touch god : tell your self that the bible mentions "mythological" creatures such as giants, unicorns, leviathans...exc
That human beings have wild imaginations, like to perform for each other, and have invented computer graphics does not prove that God exists. Guilt and punishment are persistent memes throughout human culture, most of which predates the pantheon of Yaweh.
That any one person in any given profession is seen engaging in some other activity besides what they do for money does not prove that God exists. Kirk Cameron is an actor, too.
I don't get it so I'm supposed to tell myself there is a devil? CHRISTIANITY CONFUSES THE FUCK OUT OF ME, Why can't they be just straight on, now their the deceivers, fucking with my head and shit, I don't even think they believe their own bullshit, Sarcastic little fucks, the arrogance of Christians is astounding, just keep telling yourselves you got it all figured out right, because a book said so.
Well it's funny how no one wants a stranger to walk into there how and live in it but they expect God to let people who refuse to know him waltz right into heaven with all their mideeds on their shoulders....He's your CREATOR his plan for us was corrupted by sin...if you follow it by trusting in him as your Creator, father, God...you know him, Remember only family and friends are admitted into heaven, strangers can and will join the devil and his vassals.
If there is no way to the father except through Jesus Christ then what criteria do you think He would use to Judge those who have not heard the Gospel?
The Gospels of the new testament were written by a select group of men in a small geographical area. Many millions of people lived at that time in what is now China, India, North America, Western Asia Etc. Since that time many more billions have lived and died without ever hearing anything about Christ or the Bible.
The question that bothers me is this: If God wants everyone to obey His Law and abide by the New Covenant then why have so many lived without it?
Niiiiiiice fear tactic bullshit propaganda. The KEY word here is BULLSHIT people. "Oh my god, we're all going to die and go to this awful place and burn forever if we don't lick some evil tyrannical "god's" ass." If God does exist, and he is like that, then he is OBVIOUSLY NOT good, merciful, or benevolent, but EVIL, CRUEL, AND MALEVOLENT, and he DESERVES NO worship WHATSOEVER! FUCK your EVIL piece of shit "God"!
Christians are WEAK faggoty retards, punks, and bitches. FUCK YOUR GOD DAMNED PUSSY ASS LYING "LORD" YOU GOD DAMNED PIECES OF SHIT! And fuck you too Ray Comfort, you little weasel bitch, YOU CAN'T PROVE THE BIBLE, YOU BITCH ASS PUNK!
As a descendant of the vikings, the animation movie "Hulk vs. Thor" taught me to beware of Loki and his giants, once I make it to Asgaard. And also to beware of the Marvel-character Hulk before I get there. Thumbs up if you also appreciate depictions of religious truth in popular culture :)
If the God of the Bible exists and I meet him on judgement day and he says I'm not worthy of heaven, I will gladly go to hell in protest. I would suffer for all eternity before I worship that prick.
*sigh*, Ok listen closely. Hell doesn't exist. Its a lie that was invented by the catholic church based on a Pagan concept. Hell is based on Hel from Norse theology, it was what the vikings used to explain guysers and volcanos. They believed in a magical forge under the earth that was used by goblins, etc to make magical tools, gifts and weapons. The catholics took this idea and perverted it into a prision and turned the goblins into demons. Its a lie, study some history people!!! Hell is a lie.
@pistache146 Well thats not 100% true. Yes there are mauscripts that were written long before the catholic church but there used to be literally thousands of them. The Catholic Church took only 26 of these thousands, rewrote, editted and messed around with them and produced the very first version of the bible. They then outlawed all other manuscripts and burned all the copies they could get because all real evidence about Jesus contradicts the bible (even the modern one) So the bible was cont;
@billjohn69 cont; wrote by the Catholic church... and is a lie. I mean honestly Jesus wasn't even the guy's real name. Jesus is a roman Pagan name that was forced in by the Catholics as they hated the Jews and their culture. Therefore there was no way they were going to call their new "God" by a Hebrew name (Yehosua (some people spell it differently) was Jesus' real name.). Using this Pagan title instead made conversion in the Roman empire easier and rejected Jesus' true beliefs/heritage. Peace.
You know, I think I'd prefer Hell over Heaven. Seriously, if Carl Sagan, Galileo, Archimedes, and whoever is down there, I want to party with them! Not with a bunch of Christians who really know nothing about science.
I appreciate the parental discretion advised at the beginning . I would appreciate if parents were always advised not to tell their children stories about hell.
@Eric0873 Upon whom was it the authority that GOD needed to "legally dismiss" one´s case?? Hell is real for so many people here on earth. No need to invent an afterlife. We do not need god. God does not need us. We are all one thing. And if he is there, I bet you my soul he is just praying for humanity to be mature enough and emancipate already
@Eric0873 Upon whom was it the authority that GOD needed to "legally dismiss" one´s case?? Hell is real for so many people here on earth. No need to invent an afterlife. We do not need god. God does not need us. We are all one thing. And if he is there, I bet you my soul he is just praying for humanity to be mature enough and emancipate already
@FictiologicalFilms And that's why we need a perfect God to give us His grace, because without Him no one has a reason to live, and no one could make it to heaven.
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entertaining film :) although nowhere near as good in terms of horror as the evil dead trilogy :) i have to say i do not believe in hell or heaven :) i believe my life will pass on to some other form :) hopefully a nice one
I dont think that is hell. Hell is an eternal world. It is very imposible to exist here in our world. The devils will only deceive you by making a fake hell.
This particular video is not merely making a fearful portrayal of hell, but a real one. It is not made to promote any "scare tactics". If you do not see with you own eyes how the Bible refers to Hell and fail to reason with your own mind that God sent His only Son to die so that He could legally dismiss your case contingent upon your repentance from sin and faith in Jesus to save you from Hell; then there is your problem. Hell is real, not because Christians say so, but b/c God does! Mat1028
@Eric0873 Upon whom was it the authority that GOD needed to "legally dismiss" one´s case?? Hell is real for so many people here on earth. No need to invent an afterlife. We do not need god. God does not need us. We are all one thing. And if he is there, I bet you my soul he is just praying for humanity to be mature enough and emancipate already
@janover73 The Bible is very clear regarding an afterlife and what happens to one whoever does and does not repent of sins and place their faith and trust in Christ. Jesus spoke more about Hell than He did of Heaven because He does not wanting anyone going there!! Neither do I.
@Eric0873 Tell me, what happens to the tribes who have been living away from society, even up to recent times? They have probably worshipped their own gods, broken 'God's laws' and they certainly haven't accepted Jesus, because they've never heard of him. Even some people who have heard of Jesus cannot be expected to follow him with the limited understanding they recieve when living in their culture. What happens to them? Do they go to Hell?
@simeon94 Yes, everyone who has a conscience and knows that lying, stealing, adultery, blasphemy, idolatry etc. is wrong may/will end up in Hell. God's laws have been written on our hearts. Those tribes and groups of people who you refer to are the ones that many in the Christian communities are trying to reach. (Mark 16:15) Jesus said that He's the ONLY way the ONLY truth and the ONLY life and that no one gets to the Father but by Him. And God commands all to repent & believe the gospel.
@Eric0873 So the people in those tribes who will never be reached by Christian missionaries and who, by a general, non-christian standard, are 'good people'. what happens to them? If God commands ALL to believe and repent, what happens to those who could never have known of such a requirement?
@simeon94 I used to wonder that one too! The bible makes it clear that His laws are written on our hearts, and even if we don't know all the details of the gospel, our attitudes toward sin and immorality are what will be the most influental when we stand before the Lord. Our consciences, and the presence of the Holy Spirit are with all men, and though some through willful repitition grieve the Spirit, we cannot stand before an all-knowing God and say that we never knew. Good question.
@mrjdoggy Was the Holy Spirit with Islamic suicide bombers, who knew nothing other than stories of Christianity? Was their belief in Allah simply a misinterpretation of the Holy Spirit in themselves? Because the Holy Spirit is then either responsible for their actions, or just really useless.
@simeon94 According to the Bible they could end up in Hell. Not b/c they never knew about Jesus or repentance and faith. But b/c they have sinned and misrepresented the image and likeness that God created them after. If your burden for the people you've mentioned is weighing upon you, what are you doing about it? God will not have sin in His presence. None. The real question is what about you? How do you respond to the gospel?
@Eric0873 No. When investigating the claims of christianity, ALL people must be considered. You deal with my challenge as if it is all real. Prove it is first.
@Eric0873 Indeed! though i doubt many non-believers would understand this video. I do see how it could teach some Christians to correct there worldview of how Hollywood uses the spiritual realm as a tool of entertainment to downplay its seriousness.
@Eric0873: So God PERSONALLY told you that Hell is real? NO, let me guess, the bible told you right, and you know that that is God's word because the bible says it is, right? Fucking lol. I guess Santa Claus is fucking real too, because, you know, all those children's book say that he is. God damned STUPID assed mentality. So many Christians... not enough lions is all I have to say.
@CelticWarrior1971 That's alot of abusive language! Kinda undermines your argument really. I understand the implications to what Christianity stands for can be scary and hard to process. But you do have a choice; to either receive the gospel message or reject it. But to answer your question: Yes, God has told us [Christians] that Hell is real. All those who have repented and put their trust in Christ know its real. God has revealed these things to us through His infallible word.
@Eric0873: Abusive language undermines my argument? No, not really, as valid arguments will stand whether they are laced with "abusive language" or not. Like if I said the sky on a clear sunny day is fucking god damned blue, my cussing doesn't change the fact that the sky is blue. Christianity is not scary nor is it hard to process, as I used to be one, but when I started thinking for myself using reason, logic, and common sense, I noticed A LOT of things don't add up in the Christian doctrine.
@CelticWarrior1971 You say that you "used to be one". So you knew the Lord? You genuinely repented of your sin and put your entire trust in Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord? No, I don't think you did. You're not a backslider, b/c you never really slid forward in the first place. You're were what the Bible refers to as a false convert. You may have prayed "the prayer", but you never truly gave your life to Christ. If you had, you would not have so much contempt for Christianity.
@Eric0873: Listen up you fucking shit fuck. DON'T YOU FUCKING GOD DAMNED DARE to tell ME what was in MY heart you arrogant son of a bitch. If you'd say that to my face I would knock the god damned hell out of you. I am so SICK AND TIRED of you self righteous dickwads telling others what was in THEIR hearts. FUCK YOU.
@Eric0873: I guess Satan was never good either huh? Moron. He stood in the presence of God, he had KNOWLEDGE of God, yet CHOSE to rebel, and now you are saying that a HUMAN who has ONLY FAITH not KNOWLEDGE cannot do the same? BULLSHIT.
@CelticWarrior1971 Lucifer was given the same amount of free will as was 1/3 of the angels he took with him. God does not want robots to love Him. He wants you to want to love Him. God still loves you CW. You're still breathing and your heart is still pumping. God grants you His grace everyday you live. But you must repent of your sins and put your complete faith and trust in the righteousness of Jesus to save you!! God is not willing anyone to perish, but that all to come to repentance!
@CelticWarrior1971 He has helped them, by dying on the Cross and rising from the dead; paying our fine in His life's blood. Jesus is our propitiatory, atoning sacrifice for sin. But we must approach Him in repentance and faith in order to be rescued by Him. He's done all that needs to be done! Its quite literally up to you now on how you will respond to the good news of the gospel!
@Eric0873: When I was a Christian, I noticed my faith starting to wane, to gradually deplete, I called out to God and begged him not to let this happen, to bolster my faith, and well... we can see how that went now can't we? He let my faith go bankrupt, it was out of my hands and in his, and he let me down, PERIOD. Continued...
@CelticWarrior1971: ...Continued I like how you all will either use the excuse that WE humans have to do something on our own, or you'll use the excuse that we humans CAN'T DO ANYTHING without God, and I've noticed that whichever one is used is just a matter of whichever one is convenient to the situation at hand, in other words, it depends on whether an excuse needs to be made for God's failings, or your own as to which excuse is used. See? Convenient. Lol. Fail.
@Eric0873: So the freewill thing pretty much blows your "no fallen Christians" belief right out of the water, because we don't lose our free will once we become Christians. Yes, NO ONE can snatch you out of God's hand, but those who say this are USUALLY forgetting one thing, and that is... that we are FREE to walk out of his hand if we so choose. Satan cannot steal you, but he can entice you to leave God of your own accord. "Deceive" the elect if possible, remember?
@Eric0873: You are also insinuating that I didn't have a relationship with Christ and that I was just a "bow to the letter of the law yet ignore the heart of the law Christian". Man fuck you, you don't know me, you don't know what was in my heart, and you apparently don't know shit about God as much as you think you do.
@CelticWarrior1971 I don't need to know you...God already does though. And the responses you're giving now are only showing what's truly in your heart....just like the Bible said is within all of us. But the difference here is you choose to live for yourself, while I choose to live for Him. Man, I'm no better than you are. I was saved from God's wrath. You can be too. Just please make sure that you are right. I don't want you or anyone ending up in Hell..neither does God.
@Eric0873: Yeah, what's in my heart NOW. See, NOW is the key word, and what was in my heart THEN and what is in my heart NOW is as different as day and night. That's the problem with you all, is you don't think about stuff like what someone who claims to have been a Christian was like when they were a Christian, you judge them on how they are at present. Besides, you shouldn't judge people anyway, because you don't know what is or was in their hearts, so you shouldn't speak as if you do.
@TheKenny4292 Ever read the different versions of the bible that they've been finding in ancient Egyptian garbage dumps (seriously). The different versions are very different indeed. From small details to some pretty big changes.
ashakydd 5 months ago
Such terrorism is as vile as it it is stupid Such threats only make sense from within your box, saying them to someone outside of it is meaningless. It would be like if someone told you that Allah will cast you into Jahannam for rejecting the 5 pillars and that Iblis has blinded you to the truth of Quran.
redcommander27 5 months ago
That's interesting. Religion through fear. Christianity seems to be the religion of fear.
friedie1jeff 6 months ago
@TheKenny4292 Your a slave to a mythology mistaken for divine truth. All I can do you wish good luck to see through the shackles of your dogmatic fables. Thor be with you.
NerdySabbath 6 months ago
@TheKenny4292 You've denied Thor as your lord and savior, but unlike the fascist God you praise, Thor will forgive. DC comics isn't just comics, its truth! Its written down, therefore it must be true right?
NerdySabbath 6 months ago
@TheKenny4292 What's with those silly guilt trip questions? How about you tell us if would be guilty? Personally I don't care if I meet the commandments standards considering there poorly phrased and formulated. The ten commandments are nothing more than sin list marketing pitch for simple minded people, no offence. Besides, I don't just believe in Thor, I have a relationship with him through DC comics. I hope you find Thor's love before its to late.
NerdySabbath 6 months ago
@TheKenny4292 I'm not into religion neither. I have a personal relationship with Thor through Marvel comics.
NerdySabbath 6 months ago
re·li·gion/riˈlijən/Noun
1. The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods.
Masquerade your religion as a "personal relationship" as much as you want, my friend. However, please note I could have just as easily used the word "faith" or "Christianity" as a substitute. Don't form an argument on my particular use of idiom.
atheistsRheathens 7 months ago
@TheKenny4292 Yes, when I die, God will undoubtedly judge me... or maybe it will be Allah... or perhaps I'll forced back into the reincarnation cycle... or Yahweh will cast his wrath upon me for following a false prophet... or maybe it'll turn out the Mormons were right... or perhaps the Mesopotamian polytheists had it right all along... Don't worry, I'm not uncomfortable. I simply know that you are far too indoctrinated into religion to look beyond your worldview.
atheistsRheathens 7 months ago
@TheKenny4292 Instead of repeating that "everything came from nothing", at least learn about thermodynamics. Look into what's actually entailed in the Big Bang Theory and you'll realized that the "big bang" wasn't really an explosion that created the universe... We, as a human race, are still looking into the origins of our lives, and the origins of our universe. That's the beautiful thing about science! We keep learning new things, and our perception of the world around us changes, as well!
atheistsRheathens 7 months ago
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atheistsRheathens 7 months ago
@TheKenny4292 You've bombarded NightHawkBomber001 and BDNProduction with those same silly questions, so you won't pull me into this ridiculous whirlpool of "guilty/not guilty". My actions undoubtedly have consequences, but I'm accountable for their effects on myself and for others, not for some deity you worship. Only the Bible has prophecies about divine intervention, you say? I suppose you've never read the Koran, or any sacred Hindu texts, or the prophecies of the Bahá'í Faith...
atheistsRheathens 7 months ago
@TheKenny4292 Another problematic situation arises with the question: "IF there is a god, is it YOUR god?" Hypothetically, if the "creation-creator" argument were true, a Christian would have no way of proving that Jesus Christ actually is the one and only god. Likewise, Muslims would have difficulty proving Allah's validity, just as Hindus would have troubles likewise for Krishna or Shiva! For all we know, some far-off African tribal religion might be true in the end... or none at all...
atheistsRheathens 7 months ago
@TheKenny4292 I've heard this argument so many times... unfortunately for you, there are a few flaws. First of all, since everything and everyone needs a creator, who then created the creator? Every painting needs a painter, but every painter needs a set of parents, no? Furthermore, complexity doesn't necessitate a creator - theists and atheists are completely astounded by this universe, but theists believe what they want to believe. They want a god to eexist, so they justify it with the world.
atheistsRheathens 7 months ago
@TheKenny4292 see thats the bullshit thing about this god thing... first they say if we do bad things we burn in hell, if we do good things then we go to heaven, then they say god forgives you anything, as long as you have been baptized. i mean seriously come on?
BDNProduction 7 months ago
@TheKenny4292 The story behind my Youtube Account name is long, silly, and... well, irrelevant.
Here are some fun things for you to consider: there's no empirical evidence that supports the existence of your deity! Yay! The Bible is not proof of the Bible's authenticity! Whoopee! Your particular religion is heavily influenced by geography and communal indoctrination! Not surprised there... And, last but not least, believing in something illogical makes it difficult for you to argue logically...
atheistsRheathens 7 months ago
@TheKenny4292 A blind man feels warm, so it must be the sun! Or... or maybe he's standing next to a fire... or a heater... or some OTHER source of heat. Now let's apply that to your situation: You feel a moral and emotional freedom now that you're an ardent follower of this god of yours. It must be divine intervention! It can't be some psychological aspect that affects religious people (of all creeds, including those Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus who are going to hell)! No, no, THAT would be silly.
atheistsRheathens 7 months ago
@TheKenny4292 you say he revealed himself to you? and i mean god... so you say you saw god?
BDNProduction 7 months ago
@TheKenny4292 no it dont concern me. because i dont believe in something some people wrote 2000 years back. and i dont see why anyone else would. for those 2000 years your god hasnt shown himself. and why is that? is he sleeping? watching friends while eating brunch? i hope you know where im going with this...
BDNProduction 7 months ago
@TheKenny4292 yea i´ve stolen, been telling lies felt hatred and all that... its called human nature my friend. and by saying those things are wrong, you might as well say beeing human is wrong. and i dont think im sure what you mean, when you say taken the lords name in vain? i dont believe in your great and so so merciful god.
BDNProduction 7 months ago
@TheKenny4292 2000 years ago, some idiots thought of a plan to control the population and came up witht he idea of god and the bible. it was an easy way to tell people what was right and what was wrong - and the way they did it is still used today. if i steal something i will go to jail ( hell ) but if i dont steal anything, and obey the law i can keep my freedom ( heaven ) fear based control ladies and gentlemen, and u cant say im wrong because thats how it is.
BDNProduction 7 months ago
If God is real, let him come from the sky and devour me in a literal sense.
TheEllampalli 8 months ago
All our moral choices should stem from a bribe or a threat based on some perverted character from a bronze age book, you poeple are scumbags.
Chinomareno 9 months ago
@TheKenny4292 Well thats one claim. Theres also the claim that 2530(give or take 100 years), a man who became buddha was born and he is the only one to ever reach enlightenment.... And that his path is the only path to Nirvana..
Yours is one claim among many
NightHawkBomber001 9 months ago
@TheKenny4292 Those who knowingly transgress over Gods law could be punished. Those who do not understand Gods law, why what they are doing is wrong, and are able to make amends when they do understand (in the case of lying, thieving etc cannot be punished at the same standard in a just system
Furthermore the law your talking about has not been confirmed as truth.
Judgement is not just
NightHawkBomber001 9 months ago
@TheKenny4292 A child who lies without understanding why its wrong, it not offered the same punishment as a mass murderer. That is not just.
In fact if thats the standard you God judges by he’s not only unjust, but an immoral ass.
NightHawkBomber001 9 months ago
@TheKenny4292 I have done none of those things I don’t see why any of those apply in this situation
NightHawkBomber001 9 months ago
@TheKenny4292 If God is just then I am innocent.
If God is not just, then i will be punished.
But then, if god is not just, why call him god?
NightHawkBomber001 9 months ago
@TheKenny4292 I believe that there are buddhists yes. Do I think their religion is the Truth? well I like different aspects of it but I am not a Buddhist.
NightHawkBomber001 9 months ago
@TheKenny4292 Have I ever stolen something? Yes, when I was young and Did not understand why it was wrong. Its when You gain knowledge of why its wrong and choose to do it when theres a problem.
Stealing is something that I have overcome
NightHawkBomber001 9 months ago
@thewayofthemaster... So you guys believe that old gypsies can send you to hell if you piss them off? That we can be cursed through which craft and Go to hell because of that.
NightHawkBomber001 9 months ago
@TheKenny4292 Other religions note this to. Heck buddhism says out universe had a beginning, is breaking down and will end. A new one will take its place, break down and have an end, etc. They have no God doing it
NightHawkBomber001 9 months ago
@TheKenny4292 Yes, and They can be justified using scripture. Now what?
NightHawkBomber001 9 months ago
@TheKenny4292 "Basic thermodynamics tells us that matter and energy breaks down." Yes but there is evidence to support that it is cyclical in nature and that we will go back into our pre big bang state at some point and then guess what big bang all over again. And sure you have a relationship with your imaginary friend. I am sorry but I live in reality, I do not hear voices in my head that are not my own. Perhaps a psychiatrist could prescribe something to help you with that.
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@TheKenny4292 Do you really believe that there is some being that lives outside reality that can merely will things into existence? I mean how is that more probable than there being natural causes for things happening. Which is really all we can base our information off of. And where exactly does it say it is a scientific impossibility that the matter that makes up what we call our universe could not have always existed in some form or another?
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@TheKenny4292 The universe as we know it clearly is not eternal, however there is evidence that shows it may be cyclical in nature with expanding and regressing into near nothingness. To instate a god to explain what we do not know is preposterous. And there is far less evidence for any one god that man kind has made up, than there is of even particles popping in and out of existence. See Virtual Particles for more on that.
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@TheKenny4292 "Do you believe that everything came from nothing" If this is in reference to the big bang theory, you need to go read it again princess. The theory does not say "everything came from nothing" It says that the universe rapidly expanded from an infinitely dense point. Until this time everything was contained within this point. So everything existed it was just infinitely small, presumably like your creationist brain.
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@CtheWolfe You said "Until this time EVERYTHING was contained within this point" where did EVERYTHING come from? nothing? Yeah good point
TheCh1212 10 months ago
@TheCh1212 Why does it need to come from somewhere? Why can the matter not have always existed in some form or another? And why is it that you assume that a intelligent being can exist outside the rules you apply to everything else? How is this logical? Good point? You assume that this is the best question... Well where did everything come from? Where did your god come from then? Just because we cannot currently explain everything does not mean you instate a "god".
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@CtheWolfe It needs to come from somwhere because id be silly to think it came out of nowhere with nothing. And nothing can exist with out something there to create it. And because God is the only LOGICAL reason anything just claims we came from nothing which we proved is IMPOSSIBLE. Everything came from God and nothing created God because God is eternal He has no Beginning nor End. You would know this if you knew what the correct definition of God is.
TheCh1212 10 months ago
@TheCh1212 "God is eternal He has no Beginning nor End" So he came from nothing? Or is it that he is exempt from the laws you apply to everything else? How can everything else be applicable to certain laws and criteria without you knowing all there is to know on the subject yet you give something a pass from the laws without any evidence? And if you cant create something out of nothing why can a god do it? Don't you think its silly you give one large exception in this area?
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@CtheWolfe Again your using the definition of God wrong. He isnt MATERIAL,He's Spirit thus he does not perish nor was He created to perish. And i cant do it cause im not God (duh)
TheCh1212 10 months ago
@TheCh1212 No no, you clearly don't get it. There is nothing to indicate that there is any realm beyond our own. No spiritual realm. This is just made up, its a thought that has nothing to back it up. So you cannot say like you know for sure that he is Spirit and outside our realm. I don't care what other people have claimed. The BBTheory does NOT say everything came from nothing. Clearly you do not understand the theory and are willing to jump on misrepresentations to try to prove a point.
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@CtheWolfe If Spirituality isnt backed up by anything,then what separates that viewpoint and saying ANYTHING has not backup because for the big bang theory to be true,the whole cosmos was an accident,the world and its only oxygen life supporting planet was an accident,your and accident,and your beliefs/opinions/and all of your thoughts are accidents.I CAN back up my knowledge of the Spiritual World (Heaven) Because Jesus gave me a new heart a new mind and changed my life and freed me from hell
TheCh1212 10 months ago
@TheCh1212 Why do we as humans have to be special? Why does this all have to be for us? That's kinda ego-centric no? I mean had your father not copulated with your mother at that exact moment, had that specific sperm not met with that specific egg and went through the embryonic phases exactly as they did you would not be here? You believe this is some ultimate plan? Random events place us where we are in our live, simple decisions on our part. If we have free will you are a mere chance to exist.
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@CtheWolfe We're special because He made us special.No one is EXACTLY the same no?. He created your life,lungs,heart,stomach and a conscience to tell right from wrong. And a World to serve him yet you choose to believe all this was by accident and there is nothing afterward. And sure you can go by YOUR definition of a accident world just by the sperm and the egg yet HOW many sperm are there? Chances are it WASNT an accident that you were born based off of sperm travel.
TheCh1212 10 months ago
@TheCh1212 Actually our own individual existence is mere chance. It is the culmination of events and choices factored in with some chance. Like I said had your father not been with your mother at that exact moment you would not be speaking to me. And who's choice was that? Your fathers, god had nothing to do with it. If he did then we have no free will which violates what your bible teaches.
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@TheCh1212 Wow you really don't understand this subject do you. Go look up virtual particles. They literally pop into existence apparently from nothing, however the has to be a cause for it, unknown to us at the moment but there must be a cause. A video misrepresenting quotes taking them out of their context is very misleading, if this is where you gather your information you are literally a fool.
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@CtheWolfe Im the Fool yet you dont even know whats the cause for these "literally pop"ing into existence virtual particles. Theres the difference i KNOW where we came from,you dont and you wont with your blind thinking. or "at the moment" you dont or wont that is.
TheCh1212 10 months ago
@TheCh1212 You do not know where they came from. You claim god dun it. Now lets look at all those that believed god literally created lightning for thousands of years. We know now its basic static electricity. Simple principles. Does god make lightning in your world? Does he dictate when a storm rolls in? Or is it just the factors of the natural world that determine this. I mean we can do these things on our own. Just because we dont know doesnt mean we wont know. So yes you are a fool.
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@CtheWolfe You said "I mean we can do these things on our own." Please create a video and post it on Youtube of you created lighting FROM NOTHING and ill give you all the praise in the world. Fact is you CANT,Fact is is that same logic applies to EVERYTHING. Can you create a grain of sand from NOTHING,or a living breathing fully devoped human from NOTHING? of course you cant. Creation proves theres a Creator my friend.
TheCh1212 10 months ago
@TheCh1212 "Please create a video and post it on Youtube of you created lighting FROM NOTHING and ill give you all the praise in the world." Merely by rubbing my feet on the ground I can create a tiny lightning bolt from my finger tips using no material what so ever that is not myself. You don't understand this? Are you that dense? You really think god has to create lightning?
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@CtheWolfe So skin and friction from that skin is NOTHING. Since your whole body is made of this skin YOUR nothing? Again that makes no sense my friend. Make lighting from ABSOLUTLY NOTHING.
TheCh1212 10 months ago
@TheCh1212 You really don't get it do you. The point of the lightning was not that it comes from nothing..... its that people said god had to do it because it "appears" to come from nothing. Yet there is a completely natural explanation for it that does not include god. This is no different than your "Matter exists therefor god created it". There is a natural cause for it. It might be outside our knowledge at the moment (like lightning once was) but that doesn't mean god did it.
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@CtheWolfe It seems your not taking my God created everything not very literally did you. I dont know much about lighting other than it comes from molecules/atoms and other microscopic things,yet you think God cant use these things He created to create something else?
TheCh1212 10 months ago
@TheCh1212 THE POINT IS PEOPLE ONCE HAD TO IMPOSE GOD TO EXPLAIN LIGHTNING EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS A COMPLETELY NATURAL EXPLANATION. Not that if a god existed they could not create lightning, of course they could. I am using this as an analogy to parallel your example things exist so god did it. Just because we do not know does not mean you instate a god.
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@CtheWolfe And leading scientist use to explain the Earth was flat and based that off of NATURAL EXPALNATION. And i dont need to think natural explanations to know a car wasnt made from nothing,it came from metal,just another creation from God.
TheCh1212 10 months ago
@TheCh1212 The difference between science and your way of thinking. Science corrects itself when new evidence goes against what was previously thought. Like the Earth being flat. (actually it wasn't science that taught that it was religion) It was also religion that taught that the Earth was the center of the solar system. When Galileo challenged this with Copernicus's Heliocentric theory and was greatly wronged by the church WHO KNEW GOD CREATED THE SUN TO ORBIT AROUND THE EARTH.
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@TheCh1212 "Creation proves theres a Creator my friend." Prove that everything was created. Demonstrate it to me? Show me a demonstration of another instance in which a god Created everything? You can't there is absolutely no evidence to prove this was all created for a purpose of any sort.
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@CtheWolfe For me to prove that everything was to created i would have to become God and create something from absolutly nothing. Your demonstration is pointless. I can prove theres a creator just by looking at you. Observing your eyes and how they are more complex than any machine or your brain which faster than any computer.Prove is already here.
TheCh1212 10 months ago
@TheCh1212 My existence does not prove god. If it did, I would believe. "You exist so there has to be a god" HAHAHA really that's quite ridiculous.
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@CtheWolfe Well you create a LIVING,BREATHING,THINKING,FEELING Human and ill need no further evidence that nothing created something. Fact is,you dont know where we come from, I do. You dont know where we go when we die,I do. If your right i go into the dirt i dont lose anything you cant even tell me i told you so. If im right and we do have a Judgement Day and God Judges us based on his Ten Commandments you still wont get to say i told you so.Il pray for you still because in truth i do love you
TheCh1212 10 months ago
@TheCh1212 No one came from nothing. We came from other people are you that ignorant to how life continues? Are you really that ignorant of everything around you? Just because I cannot do it does not mean a GOD had to do it. Really are you that stupid. I mean we are not the pinnacle of everything. How fucking ego-centric can you be to say "Well if I cant do it clearly a god had to do it" Seriously? Go read a book, and not that disgusting bible with all its immorality and hatred.
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@CtheWolfe And where did those "other people" come from of course you'd say from "other people again". Fact-you dont KNOW where the first person came from yet you think not only are we here by accident but that we're from a totally different species with no trassional fossils to prove it. And if i thought the Bible was immoral and full of Hatred i probly would be with you cursing at me through a computer,guess that shows how "horrible" the Bible has made me..
TheCh1212 10 months ago
@TheCh1212 "but that we're from a totally different species with no trassional fossils to prove it." really? you think there are no transitional fossils? What about Homo georgicus, AL 444-2, the Mrs Ples fossil, KNM ER 1813. KNM ER 1470, Homo erectus, Homo habilis and Australopithecus just to name a few.... But I suppose they don't exist do they. Because according to you there are no translational fossils.
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@TheCh1212 Have you read Exodus? Deuteronomy? How about the section in Matthew where Jesus says he comes to bring the sword and turn families against each other? Or Luke where Jesus asks for those who do not wish him to reign over him brought before him and slain? You think this is moral? The few feel good parts DO NOT make up for all the injustice, maliciously vengeful behavior, bigotry, inequality and oppression that book promotes.
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@TheCh1212 I love how you are so quick to just jump on the fact that I do not know everything so because I can't explain in intricate detail every molecular step everything happened in for the last few trillion years GOD HAD TO DO IT! Seriously how childish you are for thinking that way. I know enough to know we were not created in our present form, that there are transitional fossils, that there is no need for a god to explain anything yet you think you know without researching anything....
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@TheCh1212 The fact is there is such a large amount of transitional fossils for humans alone, it is hard for paleontologists to actually classify them. They are so close to one another some of them that half will classify it in one category and the other in the next. If you are looking for a fossil that is half one animal and half another you are deluded its not how it works. Its a smooth transition between one to the other so slowly you would barely notice it happening.
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@TheCh1212 Your complete and utter arrogance stating you know what you cannot just angers me. Fact is I know better where we come from than you do. You just don't bother to look, read or seek the truth to find out, you are lazy and impose a god to explain what you can't bother to figure out. And when we die it will be like before we were born. You remember that? No. Will it bother you? No.
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@TheCh1212 I don't know how much I stress that just because something is unknown to us at the moment(we are not at our absolute pinnacle of knowledge, and may never be) does not mean we will never know, or that a god has to be instated to explain it in the absence of the correct answer. People including the church used to teach that the sun moved around the earth. It even says that in the bible. Refer to Ecclesiastes 1:5-6 It says the sun hurries around the earth to the point where it arises.
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@CtheWolfe So when you've said that you've seen a Sunrise or Sunset your lying? of COURSE that cant be true because the Sun doesnt set nor rise yet we created a term for it so we could explain it. In the Bible says that they used Burnt Offerings to the Lord and it was a "pleasing" aroma to Him. God has no form yet it was written so that we could understand the meaning behind the words.
TheCh1212 10 months ago
@TheCh1212 Yes we have words to describe the sun rising and setting across our sky... your point being? And again look at your burnt offerings.... his prophets believed the smell of burnt animals was actually pleasing to god? Really wtf? I mean you really believe this garbage is true, yet you completely dismiss every other claim of a god?
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@TheCh1212 We do not know all the properties of the universe yet you say for certain it needs to come from somewhere? What if there are causes outside what you know for this to naturally happen? As it is in the case of Virtual Particles. God is not a logical reason for anything. Because we do not know does not mean god is a logical reason. We made gods up for lighting because it was so far beyond us 2000 years ago, yet now a school child can tell you what causes it.
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@TheCh1212 Do you see how illogical it really is to instate god for what you do not know? No one claims we came from nothing either. I do not know why you are dwelling on this idea. There could be an infinite regress of change and alteration of the conditions that allow for things to naturally happen, this is not nothing. Just as there does not have to be an end to everything either. It might change, degrade, reform and so forth. It might be different but not out of existence.
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@CtheWolfe For this response i would like you to please watch this if you would On Youtube its called "Nothing created Everything" the video was made by dikayo and you'll see that ALOT of people have claimed NOTHING CREATED EVERYTHING including some famous people you may know
TheCh1212 10 months ago
@TheCh1212 And how do you pinpoint which god created everything and what they really want? I mean there are so many out there, with many followers for a bunch of them. Yet you seem to think you know better than the majority of the world? Its a silly notion. You believe what you believe because your parents told you it was true. Just as you believed in Santa as a child you believe in Jesus. And because many people still do is the only reason you can cling to childish beliefs.
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@CtheWolfe Because again.Nothing cant create something. And we know from common knowledge that a building or car can create itself without a Builder or Auto Mechanic. And i know that God from the Christian faith is the one true God because He has revealed Himself through creation,morality and His Holy Word.Gave me new disires.There IS such thing as absolute Truth.If one group of people say the Sun is cold and I say its hot SOMEBODY HAS to be wrong.And nobody died for Santa but Jesus died for you
TheCh1212 10 months ago
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@TheCh1212 "And i know that God from the Christian faith is the one true God because He has revealed Himself through creation,morality and His Holy Word." How is this any different from any other religion? They all claim the exact same thing. What separates yours from theirs? Muslims claim exactly the same thing.
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@TheCh1212 And you literally believe god had to impregnate a virgin, to give birth to himself, to be sacrificed, so that he could forgive us, so that he did not have to punish us? Is this correct? Oh and the whole time condoning and promoting slaver, rape, torture, genocide, war, vengeance, fear and much much more... Before you say this isn't true go read the bible son because thats all in there (commanded by god no less) And this is your proof there is a loving god in the sky?
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@TheCh1212 People used to instate gods for the unexplainable. Like lightning, weather in general actually. Yet we now know what causes it and its silly to have gods to govern these things. The existence of matter is not any different just slightly more complicated.
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
@TheCh1212 Rather than seeking the truth you are merely satisfied with filling the gap of knowledge with one of the many deities there are out there to explain this gap you have, without even realising there is more than we currently know about the universe out there and that there are many possible natural explanations for the questions you pose. Do we know them for certain? No. But we will adventually figure them out in time.
CtheWolfe 10 months ago
I WOULDNT MIND HELL SO LONG AS RAY COMFORT WASNT THERE
TheXman300 10 months ago
oh just more Christian scare tactics - moving on now.
SmashTactics 10 months ago
They are lost in there sin, they will be found guilty. That's why Christians can't keep the gospel to themselves. So everyone knows the truth.
turbobrat89 11 months ago
How can things that don't exist drag me to a "place" that doesn't exist?
Centredge 11 months ago
wow,really impacting and true. it seems every wicked son and daughter of adam seems to ignore truth until it comes to their own home being burgled, their own daughter being rapes, their own life being considered irrelivant but praise the LORD that He is Saviour.
lilsoulkid 11 months ago
So what your telling me is that ALL movies are based on actual events? Okay....You people make less sense daily!
pillowbugg 1 year ago
This is hilarious! Can you guys do the same thing with Mean Girls, please!!!
jfrancal2007 1 year ago
tell your self that you self that you cant see, hear ,or touch god : tell your self that the bible mentions "mythological" creatures such as giants, unicorns, leviathans...exc
lerox22 1 year ago
@lerox22
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lilsoulkid 11 months ago
That human beings have wild imaginations, like to perform for each other, and have invented computer graphics does not prove that God exists. Guilt and punishment are persistent memes throughout human culture, most of which predates the pantheon of Yaweh.
That any one person in any given profession is seen engaging in some other activity besides what they do for money does not prove that God exists. Kirk Cameron is an actor, too.
SnarkLicker 1 year ago
I heard that was a really bad movie
5nebula 1 year ago
how stupid do you guys have to be? At thewayofthemaster? Seriously.
TheLiberalSoup 1 year ago
Why are there so many different Religions?
doireallyneed1 1 year ago
I don't get it so I'm supposed to tell myself there is a devil? CHRISTIANITY CONFUSES THE FUCK OUT OF ME, Why can't they be just straight on, now their the deceivers, fucking with my head and shit, I don't even think they believe their own bullshit, Sarcastic little fucks, the arrogance of Christians is astounding, just keep telling yourselves you got it all figured out right, because a book said so.
bringonthewrath 1 year ago
*house (correction)
turbobrat89 1 year ago
Well it's funny how no one wants a stranger to walk into there how and live in it but they expect God to let people who refuse to know him waltz right into heaven with all their mideeds on their shoulders....He's your CREATOR his plan for us was corrupted by sin...if you follow it by trusting in him as your Creator, father, God...you know him, Remember only family and friends are admitted into heaven, strangers can and will join the devil and his vassals.
turbobrat89 1 year ago
@turbobrat89,
What happens to people who have never heard the gospel?
doireallyneed1 1 year ago
@doireallyneed1 well only God can judge them...
2010fys 1 year ago
@2010fys,
If there is no way to the father except through Jesus Christ then what criteria do you think He would use to Judge those who have not heard the Gospel?
doireallyneed1 1 year ago
@doireallyneed1 Im sure God gave enough opportunities though people for people to hear the Gospel!!
the people that really cant read or reach the gospel im sure that will be another story for God...
2010fys 1 year ago
@2010fys,
The Gospels of the new testament were written by a select group of men in a small geographical area. Many millions of people lived at that time in what is now China, India, North America, Western Asia Etc. Since that time many more billions have lived and died without ever hearing anything about Christ or the Bible.
The question that bothers me is this: If God wants everyone to obey His Law and abide by the New Covenant then why have so many lived without it?
doireallyneed1 1 year ago
@doireallyneed1i have no idea but it makes sence what you saying
2010fys 1 year ago
@doireallyneed1
google it
5nebula 1 year ago
I actually LMAO that whole movie.... I guess they were joking.
shaolinmantis77 1 year ago
"tell yourself there's no devil, there's no hell, and no such thing as sin or evil." One of the smartest things WOTM has said for a while.
bigdaddyaen 1 year ago
Seriously? You guys see nothing wrong with this terrible and evil message that your cult is sending?
scooter9023 1 year ago
The bible full of lie
Hollysprt 1 year ago
The bible full of crap
Hollysprt 1 year ago
HAHAHAH HOLY FUCK
that is so messed up...
TheTriangulation 1 year ago
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Niiiiiiice fear tactic bullshit propaganda. The KEY word here is BULLSHIT people. "Oh my god, we're all going to die and go to this awful place and burn forever if we don't lick some evil tyrannical "god's" ass." If God does exist, and he is like that, then he is OBVIOUSLY NOT good, merciful, or benevolent, but EVIL, CRUEL, AND MALEVOLENT, and he DESERVES NO worship WHATSOEVER! FUCK your EVIL piece of shit "God"!
CelticWarrior1971 1 year ago
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CelticWarrior1971 1 year ago
Christians are WEAK faggoty retards, punks, and bitches. FUCK YOUR GOD DAMNED PUSSY ASS LYING "LORD" YOU GOD DAMNED PIECES OF SHIT! And fuck you too Ray Comfort, you little weasel bitch, YOU CAN'T PROVE THE BIBLE, YOU BITCH ASS PUNK!
CelticWarrior1971 1 year ago
The greatest lie the devil ever told was that he didnt exist.
kristineurie44 1 year ago
As a descendant of the vikings, the animation movie "Hulk vs. Thor" taught me to beware of Loki and his giants, once I make it to Asgaard. And also to beware of the Marvel-character Hulk before I get there. Thumbs up if you also appreciate depictions of religious truth in popular culture :)
NorthernRealmJackal 1 year ago
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hahaha do you really believe this?
satibablaze 1 year ago
Heaven is where a guy that sends to be hell to be tortured for all eternity lives. Sounds like a nice place.
To all Christians... better make sure your religion is the right one.
wharfrat78 1 year ago
If the God of the Bible exists and I meet him on judgement day and he says I'm not worthy of heaven, I will gladly go to hell in protest. I would suffer for all eternity before I worship that prick.
nmaylo 1 year ago
Um, this movie was a tongue-in-cheek comedy horror. Not the best example to use, but whatever floats your boat. :|
magenta1000 1 year ago
*sigh*, Ok listen closely. Hell doesn't exist. Its a lie that was invented by the catholic church based on a Pagan concept. Hell is based on Hel from Norse theology, it was what the vikings used to explain guysers and volcanos. They believed in a magical forge under the earth that was used by goblins, etc to make magical tools, gifts and weapons. The catholics took this idea and perverted it into a prision and turned the goblins into demons. Its a lie, study some history people!!! Hell is a lie.
billjohn69 1 year ago
@billjohn69 Bible predates the catholic church. (so do the manuscripts...)
pistache146 1 year ago
@pistache146 Well thats not 100% true. Yes there are mauscripts that were written long before the catholic church but there used to be literally thousands of them. The Catholic Church took only 26 of these thousands, rewrote, editted and messed around with them and produced the very first version of the bible. They then outlawed all other manuscripts and burned all the copies they could get because all real evidence about Jesus contradicts the bible (even the modern one) So the bible was cont;
billjohn69 1 year ago
@billjohn69 cont; wrote by the Catholic church... and is a lie. I mean honestly Jesus wasn't even the guy's real name. Jesus is a roman Pagan name that was forced in by the Catholics as they hated the Jews and their culture. Therefore there was no way they were going to call their new "God" by a Hebrew name (Yehosua (some people spell it differently) was Jesus' real name.). Using this Pagan title instead made conversion in the Roman empire easier and rejected Jesus' true beliefs/heritage. Peace.
billjohn69 1 year ago
You know, I think I'd prefer Hell over Heaven. Seriously, if Carl Sagan, Galileo, Archimedes, and whoever is down there, I want to party with them! Not with a bunch of Christians who really know nothing about science.
FlyingSpahghettiMan 1 year ago
I appreciate the parental discretion advised at the beginning . I would appreciate if parents were always advised not to tell their children stories about hell.
dankuck 1 year ago
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@Eric0873 Upon whom was it the authority that GOD needed to "legally dismiss" one´s case?? Hell is real for so many people here on earth. No need to invent an afterlife. We do not need god. God does not need us. We are all one thing. And if he is there, I bet you my soul he is just praying for humanity to be mature enough and emancipate already
janover73 1 year ago
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@Eric0873 Upon whom was it the authority that GOD needed to "legally dismiss" one´s case?? Hell is real for so many people here on earth. No need to invent an afterlife. We do not need god. God does not need us. We are all one thing. And if he is there, I bet you my soul he is just praying for humanity to be mature enough and emancipate already
janover73 1 year ago
@FictiologicalFilms And that's why we need a perfect God to give us His grace, because without Him no one has a reason to live, and no one could make it to heaven.
TSmity2 1 year ago
@FictiologicalFilms but you would never stand as perfect.
TSmity2 1 year ago
Christfreaks are so phuking annoying!
Pinhead554 1 year ago
That movie sucked, so I hear.
HayleeHalogenX 2 years ago
What a load of fear mongering bull shit.
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smilyfacekilla 2 years ago
It's just a film, quite funny but just a film - chill.
herbiepop 2 years ago
@herbiepop agreed ! I accually saw this twice!
Pinhead554 1 year ago
@Pinhead554 yeah my kids have it on DVD, they think that it's a riot.
herbiepop 1 year ago
Works salvation for the loss!
SoldierofChrist87 2 years ago
entertaining film :) although nowhere near as good in terms of horror as the evil dead trilogy :) i have to say i do not believe in hell or heaven :) i believe my life will pass on to some other form :) hopefully a nice one
arrivederci :D
DanDiatomic92 2 years ago
I dont think that is hell. Hell is an eternal world. It is very imposible to exist here in our world. The devils will only deceive you by making a fake hell.
LOL!
makubx 2 years ago
Very true. open your eyes people. Hell is as real as it gets.
1apadilla 2 years ago 7
I really don't get what people get out of this.
monkeyjoe007 2 years ago
This particular video is not merely making a fearful portrayal of hell, but a real one. It is not made to promote any "scare tactics". If you do not see with you own eyes how the Bible refers to Hell and fail to reason with your own mind that God sent His only Son to die so that He could legally dismiss your case contingent upon your repentance from sin and faith in Jesus to save you from Hell; then there is your problem. Hell is real, not because Christians say so, but b/c God does! Mat1028
Eric0873 2 years ago 16
Yeah, but the irony is amazing. People go to see this movie and they say, "well, that is that, it is just a movie." When in fact it is real.
Please accept Jesus today people! If your reading this, your still alive and able to do so! You still have time!
MiladyLey 2 years ago 2
@Eric0873 Upon whom was it the authority that GOD needed to "legally dismiss" one´s case?? Hell is real for so many people here on earth. No need to invent an afterlife. We do not need god. God does not need us. We are all one thing. And if he is there, I bet you my soul he is just praying for humanity to be mature enough and emancipate already
janover73 1 year ago
@janover73 The Bible is very clear regarding an afterlife and what happens to one whoever does and does not repent of sins and place their faith and trust in Christ. Jesus spoke more about Hell than He did of Heaven because He does not wanting anyone going there!! Neither do I.
Eric0873 1 year ago
@Eric0873 Tell me, what happens to the tribes who have been living away from society, even up to recent times? They have probably worshipped their own gods, broken 'God's laws' and they certainly haven't accepted Jesus, because they've never heard of him. Even some people who have heard of Jesus cannot be expected to follow him with the limited understanding they recieve when living in their culture. What happens to them? Do they go to Hell?
simeon94 1 year ago
@simeon94 Yes, everyone who has a conscience and knows that lying, stealing, adultery, blasphemy, idolatry etc. is wrong may/will end up in Hell. God's laws have been written on our hearts. Those tribes and groups of people who you refer to are the ones that many in the Christian communities are trying to reach. (Mark 16:15) Jesus said that He's the ONLY way the ONLY truth and the ONLY life and that no one gets to the Father but by Him. And God commands all to repent & believe the gospel.
Eric0873 1 year ago
@Eric0873 So the people in those tribes who will never be reached by Christian missionaries and who, by a general, non-christian standard, are 'good people'. what happens to them? If God commands ALL to believe and repent, what happens to those who could never have known of such a requirement?
simeon94 1 year ago
@simeon94 I used to wonder that one too! The bible makes it clear that His laws are written on our hearts, and even if we don't know all the details of the gospel, our attitudes toward sin and immorality are what will be the most influental when we stand before the Lord. Our consciences, and the presence of the Holy Spirit are with all men, and though some through willful repitition grieve the Spirit, we cannot stand before an all-knowing God and say that we never knew. Good question.
mrjdoggy 1 year ago
@mrjdoggy Was the Holy Spirit with Islamic suicide bombers, who knew nothing other than stories of Christianity? Was their belief in Allah simply a misinterpretation of the Holy Spirit in themselves? Because the Holy Spirit is then either responsible for their actions, or just really useless.
simeon94 1 year ago
@simeon94 According to the Bible they could end up in Hell. Not b/c they never knew about Jesus or repentance and faith. But b/c they have sinned and misrepresented the image and likeness that God created them after. If your burden for the people you've mentioned is weighing upon you, what are you doing about it? God will not have sin in His presence. None. The real question is what about you? How do you respond to the gospel?
Eric0873 1 year ago
@Eric0873 No. When investigating the claims of christianity, ALL people must be considered. You deal with my challenge as if it is all real. Prove it is first.
simeon94 1 year ago
@Eric0873 Indeed! though i doubt many non-believers would understand this video. I do see how it could teach some Christians to correct there worldview of how Hollywood uses the spiritual realm as a tool of entertainment to downplay its seriousness.
GabrielGroverMan 1 year ago
@Eric0873: So God PERSONALLY told you that Hell is real? NO, let me guess, the bible told you right, and you know that that is God's word because the bible says it is, right? Fucking lol. I guess Santa Claus is fucking real too, because, you know, all those children's book say that he is. God damned STUPID assed mentality. So many Christians... not enough lions is all I have to say.
CelticWarrior1971 1 year ago
@CelticWarrior1971 That's alot of abusive language! Kinda undermines your argument really. I understand the implications to what Christianity stands for can be scary and hard to process. But you do have a choice; to either receive the gospel message or reject it. But to answer your question: Yes, God has told us [Christians] that Hell is real. All those who have repented and put their trust in Christ know its real. God has revealed these things to us through His infallible word.
Eric0873 1 year ago
@Eric0873: Abusive language undermines my argument? No, not really, as valid arguments will stand whether they are laced with "abusive language" or not. Like if I said the sky on a clear sunny day is fucking god damned blue, my cussing doesn't change the fact that the sky is blue. Christianity is not scary nor is it hard to process, as I used to be one, but when I started thinking for myself using reason, logic, and common sense, I noticed A LOT of things don't add up in the Christian doctrine.
CelticWarrior1971 1 year ago
@CelticWarrior1971 You say that you "used to be one". So you knew the Lord? You genuinely repented of your sin and put your entire trust in Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord? No, I don't think you did. You're not a backslider, b/c you never really slid forward in the first place. You're were what the Bible refers to as a false convert. You may have prayed "the prayer", but you never truly gave your life to Christ. If you had, you would not have so much contempt for Christianity.
Eric0873 1 year ago
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@Eric0873: Listen up you fucking shit fuck. DON'T YOU FUCKING GOD DAMNED DARE to tell ME what was in MY heart you arrogant son of a bitch. If you'd say that to my face I would knock the god damned hell out of you. I am so SICK AND TIRED of you self righteous dickwads telling others what was in THEIR hearts. FUCK YOU.
CelticWarrior1971 1 year ago
@Eric0873: I guess Satan was never good either huh? Moron. He stood in the presence of God, he had KNOWLEDGE of God, yet CHOSE to rebel, and now you are saying that a HUMAN who has ONLY FAITH not KNOWLEDGE cannot do the same? BULLSHIT.
CelticWarrior1971 1 year ago
@CelticWarrior1971 Lucifer was given the same amount of free will as was 1/3 of the angels he took with him. God does not want robots to love Him. He wants you to want to love Him. God still loves you CW. You're still breathing and your heart is still pumping. God grants you His grace everyday you live. But you must repent of your sins and put your complete faith and trust in the righteousness of Jesus to save you!! God is not willing anyone to perish, but that all to come to repentance!
Eric0873 1 year ago
@Eric0873: "God is not willing anyone to perish..."
Then maybe GOD should help those who BEGGED for it at his feet, and who only wished to serve him, and who he left to rot.
CelticWarrior1971 1 year ago
@CelticWarrior1971 He has helped them, by dying on the Cross and rising from the dead; paying our fine in His life's blood. Jesus is our propitiatory, atoning sacrifice for sin. But we must approach Him in repentance and faith in order to be rescued by Him. He's done all that needs to be done! Its quite literally up to you now on how you will respond to the good news of the gospel!
Eric0873 1 year ago
@Eric0873: When I was a Christian, I noticed my faith starting to wane, to gradually deplete, I called out to God and begged him not to let this happen, to bolster my faith, and well... we can see how that went now can't we? He let my faith go bankrupt, it was out of my hands and in his, and he let me down, PERIOD. Continued...
CelticWarrior1971 1 year ago
@CelticWarrior1971: ...Continued I like how you all will either use the excuse that WE humans have to do something on our own, or you'll use the excuse that we humans CAN'T DO ANYTHING without God, and I've noticed that whichever one is used is just a matter of whichever one is convenient to the situation at hand, in other words, it depends on whether an excuse needs to be made for God's failings, or your own as to which excuse is used. See? Convenient. Lol. Fail.
CelticWarrior1971 1 year ago
@Eric0873: So the freewill thing pretty much blows your "no fallen Christians" belief right out of the water, because we don't lose our free will once we become Christians. Yes, NO ONE can snatch you out of God's hand, but those who say this are USUALLY forgetting one thing, and that is... that we are FREE to walk out of his hand if we so choose. Satan cannot steal you, but he can entice you to leave God of your own accord. "Deceive" the elect if possible, remember?
CelticWarrior1971 1 year ago
@Eric0873: You are also insinuating that I didn't have a relationship with Christ and that I was just a "bow to the letter of the law yet ignore the heart of the law Christian". Man fuck you, you don't know me, you don't know what was in my heart, and you apparently don't know shit about God as much as you think you do.
CelticWarrior1971 1 year ago
@CelticWarrior1971 I don't need to know you...God already does though. And the responses you're giving now are only showing what's truly in your heart....just like the Bible said is within all of us. But the difference here is you choose to live for yourself, while I choose to live for Him. Man, I'm no better than you are. I was saved from God's wrath. You can be too. Just please make sure that you are right. I don't want you or anyone ending up in Hell..neither does God.
Eric0873 1 year ago
@Eric0873: Yeah, what's in my heart NOW. See, NOW is the key word, and what was in my heart THEN and what is in my heart NOW is as different as day and night. That's the problem with you all, is you don't think about stuff like what someone who claims to have been a Christian was like when they were a Christian, you judge them on how they are at present. Besides, you shouldn't judge people anyway, because you don't know what is or was in their hearts, so you shouldn't speak as if you do.
CelticWarrior1971 1 year ago