Making a Noise : Why Natives Should Protest Kiesha Crowther

[SmoothCinnamonX]

While much of what she says feels very true, I'm still undecided on this whole "crystals" issue. That part I am very skeptical about because where do these crystals come from, and is it good to put yet one more thing jammed into mother earth?

[articlescholar]

This video went viral on Libya

[Seelentrommeln]

just listen - to the words - and feel the truth - who cares what.. maybe we were indians in a former life. - now white - so what? dont you indians always tell them whites... we are all one??????????? start spreading news to inspire people worldwide to just change the world.... and go... for this dir. . . . . . how long do indians want to sit and cry over their owning some treats and ceremonies..whatever..she says something ... here in europe indians sell

secrets... and lies for money..

[interstellarwonder]

@Seelentrommeln troll

[MarcfromTreasureNet1]

stop worrying about Keisha and start worrying about all of the sexual abuse and incest on the rez

[interstellarwonder]

@MarcfromTreasureNet1 keep the priest and white family services away from native american children

[MultiAquarius71]

www

[MultiAquarius71]

2012hoax.org/tribe-of-many-col­ors-or-tribe-of-many-dollars

[wiccannicky]

isnt the "This is the Eighth Sign hopi prochecy :- You will see many youth, who wear their hair long like our people, come and join the tribal nations, to learn our ways and wisdom.

Are the Hopi not Native AMerican?

Isnt this not what Keisha is doing?

Or is it a case of natives have suffered persecution at the hands of the white man... and now we do not want a white woman representing our beliefs?

[NopeJPeg]

@wiccannicky

So the purported beliefs of one tribal nation encompasses the hundreds of other Indian nations throughout the whole of the Americas? And then folks wonder why Indians are seen as a monolithic culture rather than a variety of different, and sometimes opposing, belief systems.

[JohnnyStabooney]

Lunalas I admire your opinion.BTW.. Catholics are Christians. They are not two separate religons. Christ said "you will know them by their fruits." in other words, actions speak louder than words. So if one's actions are corrupt then definitely "do not throw your pearls before swine.. "the temple lies within. Pray and meditate and you will have your guidance. True prophets show you how to get answers on your own and don't charge you a dime. God is within all of us. God Bless.

[jminyard504]

You know, whether she's lying or not, her message is beautiful.

Quite frankly it's a shame people are spending their time complaining about her. If people want to buy into her stuff - let them. If she takes advantage of people that offer her their shit - let her. She's not my problem, and she's certainly none of your problems.

People have a choice. And ultimately, for every person that gave her material, they made the choice to do it.

[sativasymbiosis]

sad sad sad. David Swallow Jr all the way!

[orena11]

I grew up reading about Indian traditions and I cherish them. I 'm sorry for everybody learning about Indians with a twist, interpretation given by this woman. It's esceptionally disgusting deception. I also would like to ask Elders to protest.

How America would be different place if Europeans/invaders would have accepted Indian way of living...

[carloscarlos13]

thanks for this--real beauty. I am white and privileged to participate in real sweats nd NAC meetings from time to time, and it's NOT about race it's about what's true and what's bogus. Sad that frauds like Kiesha pull in people who really want to get blessed, as well as those who want their self importance pumped up.

[kageroninja]

so how did the protest go?did you finaly stop this clown once and for all?

[Wakalyapi]

I believe that spirituality comes to every culture. I just don't understand why non-native people think they would not have impact in their own race/culure..instead of always trying to "be adopted" into Native American traditions. I think God meant for us to assimilate in mind, soul and heart...not in skin color. As we are born into our whatever culture to radiate in those practises.

[hinepare]

Thank you. Watching Keisha's first video that I stumbled across on YouTube - something said to me she's a fake. I am going to call my Mother now and let her know what I have discovered as she (Mum) is keen on attending a seminar that this woman is apparently holding here in Australia.

[Awehness]

check out native american elders speak out,, im a whitie and I really loved it. I love the american indian culture,..the teachings alone are priceless. sad to see another deluded white person raping anything that still has a semblance of actual reality and meaningful culture in this seriously upside down mindf..x mayhem we live in. not all white people are bad! we sure do have alot of as..holes though. :) Peace!

[MsWaboose]

Is this woman still at it? People who bastardize our Traditional Teachings and then profit from it? Grrrrrrrrr!

[KittyBellas]

white eagle woman should watch this! there is a new video of a performance in hawaii and i couldn't stop laughing it was hilarious

[lotsafeathers]

What does this say about the followers that they have to believe in someone who is so mentally unstable. This is what it looks like when you don't take your meds.......

[MichaelCapelle]

SCALP THIS SQAW! Like the olden days, she has to be stopped... NOW!

[Krystal00Zaraki]

@MichaelCapelle I agreed my friend...she is making a mockery of us Native Americans

[Wakalyapi]

the MORE negative people are toward her - the MORE famous she will become!! Why worry about her - the spirit world - has given her , her minds desire. (this is her "wants"). She has given her mind over to EGO - it has ahold of her mind...lol

Native American spirituality is way way deeper then ritual.

People that buy into her "fraudulence"... are 1 of the millions that believe they can buy their own souls/spiriuality.

The Creator expects us - to seek out our personal growth for ourselves!

[siroma80]

"WE", "WE", "WE"... and who are WE now??

Who do you represent?

In whose name do you use noun first race in the plural?

[ChilledPones]

From the beginning I had a small voice saying...i'm not sure. I loved her gaze, and many of her words but the small voice said...£££££

[tarot4games]

Favorited! and thumbs up!

[fleckx]

Well thanks for putting up vids like this. I was listening to her and I liked her message but I was wondering if she was anything at all that she claimed she was. Too bad there are a lot of people who will take it at face value.

[Krystal00Zaraki]

I think it is kinda good that Kiesha is trying to introduce the white man into our ways but she needs to learn from our elders so as she can teach correctly. It brings a question to my mind...does she even know ANYTHING of our ways? Does she even respect our ways and the grandfather and mother? Part 2

[Wakalyapi]

@Krystal00Zaraki

For one thing she hasn't reached post menopause age - traditional standards for women. Why in the world - would our N American/F Nations elders honor an under-aged woman...a white woman before they would their own daughters...lol If she has greed and materialism - her prayers project her that way.

She is a perfect example of what not to be. Be careful what u pray for!!!! Wants are fulfilled by the devil - needs are blessed to us - by the Creator!

[MsWaboose]

@Wakalyapi That's the first thing I thought-SHE"S NOT A NOKIMIS/GRANDMOTHER YET! I've had grandchildren since my late 3o's, but at ceremonies(NokimisGiziis, Feast for the Dead, etc) and in the Lodge there is no way I can take the position of Grandmother until I stop having my Moon. I hope I don't stop having it for a while because, even though I've been brought up Traditional Medawiin Nishnaube from birth, taking the part of Grandmother carries responsibilitiesI feel I'm not prepared for.

[Krystal00Zaraki]

It makes me mad that someone will go out and disgrace our ways like that...sure I dont know my native tongue but I AM PROUD TO BE NATIVE AMERICAN AND DO NOT LIKE HER DOING THINGS TO PROFIT HER POCKETS OR WALLET!! I wish that I could sit down with a real Native American Elder and listen to the stories and learn the ways of my people... Part 1

[nadz1822]

@TheShamanWay im not sucked in by her.Shes a good person in my opinion,she radiates a lot of positive energy,her vibes are great,all she is doing is spreading love and light to people.My senses tell me she is not a fake.peace

[nadz1822]

she is not fraud,just because she is white.she works for the light and she is a shaman,all of you guys are the negative ones who can not handle her.i suggest you do some good research,so they say "the negative ones will not be able to handle the beings of light" peace.

[Wakalyapi]

@nadz1822 she is a fraud because she's not a grandmother - she has no life experience... she hasn't raised her kids in the traditional ceremonies. She's a fraud because she's not Native American... if her mother is wesicu..then she is wesicu..! Her teachings may be believable..but how she presents her teachings is not honest. Just because one is adopted by N American people does NOT give her a right to put herself above full blooded lineage.

[QueenKaidrea]

@nadz1822 If the very people she is claiming to work for and with are saying that she has no connections, then that should REALLY tell you something. It is not right to spread love and light while at the same time exploiting a sacred people's traditions and throwing in lies, that is NOT love and light. She is doing this just to make a buck and she isn't even giving back to the very communities that she claims support her, that TOO should tell you something. Open your eyes, she speaks lies.

[QueenKaidrea]

@nadz1822 Another thing, you are making it about race, it's NOT about race, it's about lying and exploiting people. YOU are the one that needs to do some research. Just because she speaks of things that you WANT to hear doesn't make it right, stop supporting BS just because it makes you feel good. As a being of light you should know of a thing called discernment and be able to exercise it. She is hurting MANY people by doing what she is doing, her own family say she lies, the NAs say it too.

[PetadeAztlan]

YES. The truth will set us free. I am of Chiricahua Apache and Sonoran Yaqui bloodline, yet do not really practice native traditions nor pretend to do so. I am a Chicano raised in Sacramento ~the lost tribe of Chicanos.

I am glad that Charlatan Crowther is being exposed. People need to really check such matters out, esp. before they start believing falsehoods.

[JaneEyre1920]

It took Kiesha hurting the people following her to see clearly that she is hurting the indians too. There was a prayer request on her forum where people were requesting prayers for family, themselves or their animals. Kiesha without any kind of regard to the feelings of others shut it down without a notice in 2 hours time. No warning to no one. This is not the first time she shut a forum down quickly. She doesnt care about any one but the money. If no one sees that now they are still blinded.

[quicksilverwade]

i should get my grandmother to kick some fraud butt.

[MissSolidarity1]

I hope everyone understands that this is not Ndn:s positioned against non-Ndns - this is not one culture against another culture. I am European and most of us do NOT want this kind of frauds and exploiters in our countriers. We are sick and tired of cultural genocide and appropriation. It is time that we in Europe put our feet down and say STOP! Natives should not have to fight this themselves - let´s make some European noise, too! :))

[wyomingoutdoorsman]

@MissSolidarity1 Thank you!

[wyomingoutdoorsman]

@SuperSPatrick - Sorry, I accidentily deleted one of your comments, when I was deleting he crazy lady's latest rant. You can repost it if you like.

[SuperSPatrick]

@wyomingoutdoorsman I wish you would consider NOT censoring comments from 'whitebuffaloswmn2012', please, as I truly believe that it might be Keisha herself, or a member of her 'entourage'. She has sent me a hate msg to my inbox as well. Censorship in this instance is only protecting this racist, not the people they are being racist against. It is also not allowing anyone else to see the malice this person is capable of, and sheer rage against those of us her speak out against Keisha's lies.

[JaneEyre1920]

I met Kiesha at the return of ancestors and she told us she isn't in it for money for fame. She says she wants no part of money. I recently visited her home, the one you see on her video and it is very nice. It has all new furnishings and expensive things. She lives well off. One thing bothered me was she did not have a bedroom for her children at all. There was a stuffed owl in her bedroom and said it was the owl who died in her arms. She meditates with that owl and wears the claw on her neck.

[wyomingoutdoorsman]

@JaneEyre1920 That's kind of creepy. Every evangelical fraud I've ever heard of had a message of peace and love. Kiesha is running a cult - look at the YouTube vid: How Cults Work. They tell you that cults are structured like an onion, with the benign, good parts on the outside (peace and love) and the evil creepy stuff on the inside (don't think). Be thankful you got out before she took all your money and messed with your head!

[SuperSPatrick]

@JaneEyre1920 Also...I don't know of any Natives who meditate with dead, stuffed animals. Thats weirdo stuff. She is going to get sick in many ways, besides the most obvious ones she is exhibiting.

[nadz1822]

@SuperSPatrick um yes they do

[SuperSPatrick]

@nadz1822 UM, NO THEY DON'T. I think I know way more about my culture and my people than YOU do Nadz, you deludenoid.

[JaneEyre1920]

I used to support Kiesha but I have changed my mind. I'm sorry that I was fooled. After seeing how she treated all her people on her web forum by closing it within an hour I started to see her for what she is. She has set up a webcast site now where she charges people to watch her talk on camera. You can see 20 min for free after that you pay for it. She looks sickly now and greasy like she has not bathed. I think I see how she has wronged the indians and plan to speak of this to all i know.

[wyomingoutdoorsman]

@JaneEyre1920 The important thing is that you realized she's a fraud. Now, you have to find out what part of you was vulnerable to her lies. What hooked you in in the first place. If you deal with that, your chances of being fooled again will be very low. You can also really help people by speaking out and telling your story. thanks for the comment

[RussiaGurova]

@JaneEyre1920 hm strange :) I've seen some of her videos on this site, but everything was ok with them.

and whether she is right about the situation in the world or not - she does very important work --- positive perception is a powerful thing :)

[corine68]

Great video- compliments to the artists and producers of this youtube

[wyomingoutdoorsman]

@corine68 Thanks, I had a LOT of help.

[firstnationsfirst]

I heard that Kiesha's telling people she got sick because of the Native Americans who were protesting her lies. I guess that proves that OUR medicine is stronger than hers. If she were really all that, she could have just manifested another reality and she wouldn't have gotten sick. She got sick because of her FEAR. Fear of facing up to her lies and deceptions. Just goes to show she doesn't practice what she preaches she's just a weak coward.

[SuperSPatrick]

@WHITEBUFFALOSWMN2012 I have been following your comments on various videos and taking screenshots of all the racism, the fear-mongering, and the lies you have been spewing against our Nations, and I will submit them to the legal authorities for spreading racism, propaganda, and the libel of our people. This is illegal. They can track your IP address you know. You are a liar, and I demand you cease and desist spreading your false claims in an effort to bully us into silence.

[wyomingoutdoorsman]

@SuperSPatrick I deleted her last comments, but I'm keeping screen shots also. When it turns out that this RACIST, WHITE SUPREMACIST woman is CLOSELY associated with Kiesha Crowther, there will more videos documenting the fact. We will wait. We will watch. The truth will come out eventually.

[wyomingoutdoorsman]

@WHITEBUFFALOSWMN2012 You are one crazy racist lady. If you post anymore racist comments on this page, I will report you to Youtube for spamming and to the authorities for hate speech.

[MissSolidarity1]

There is so much talk about violence in here, about beating, attacking, threatening...and all this comes from Kiesha´s followers. I haven´t seen any Ndn:s mentioning violence at all! A peaceful and informative protest was planned and executed. I don´t know why the followers have so much violence on their minds. It is scary and sad :(

[SuperSPatrick]

@MissSolidarity1 This troll who calls herself Whitebuffaloswmn2012 is trying to flood youtube videos which expose this fraudulent New Age liar, with hate-mongering, racist generalizations, and fear-tactics by saying we intend violence, which is a TOTAL LIE. Her comments are hate-fulled and disgusting. This person is very scared that we will expose the truth, and Keisha will go to prison where she belongs. Which makes me wonder if its a fake account by the fraudster herself.

[QueenKaidrea]

@MissSolidarity1 Because her followers follow her because what she says makes them comfortable, and they are very unwilling to go outside their comfort zone, even in the name of truth. It's like taking food from a starving animal. If they speak of violence, then they are not of love and light, they are merely delusioned by this Kiesha woman. It makes me so sad that she is exploiting the Natives, and yet again they have to take abuse. She is messing with many many lives all for money.

[Donndez]

It's amazing to me how calling for an end to a crazy white woman's activities brings forth the fear that Native peoples are going to turn to the European style of violence against a woman -- especially when traditionals know that women are the source of life. One very greedy, confused woman is not about to cause anyone to forget who they are -- it would take someone equally confused or from a non-Native background to do violence. We just want the crazies to leave us alone!

[firstnationsfirst]

@Donndez Most white people live in constant fear that all the people of color that they've colonized and oppressed will one day have the power to treat them they way they treated us. They don't see that we're better than that. We don't want revenge, we just want what's ours.

[Donndez]

@firstnationsfirst Well stated! Thanks :)

[WHITEBUFFALOSWMN2012]

@siroma80 THEY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR WOMAN. AS YOU KNOW THEY BEAT THEIR WOMEN ON THE RESERVATIONS. THEY TREAT THEIR WOMAN BADLY. ITS ON YOUTUBE THESE VIDEOS ABOUT WOMEN WHO HAVE TO GO IN HIDING FROM THEM AS THEY FEAR THEM. THEY ARE AFTER KIESHA IN THE SAME WAY. THEY ARE ANGRY AND DO NOT LIKE WOMAN. THEY ARE USED TO BEATING A WOMAN DOWN AND DO THE SAME TO KIESHA. NO WONDER SHE WAS SICK AT HER OWN FUNCTION. SHE WAS SCARED THESE INDIAN MEN WOULD HURT HER. SHE DID NO CEREMONEY IN INDIAN WAYS YESTERDAY

[wyomingoutdoorsman]

@WHITEBUFFALOSWMN2012 This comment is racist and innapropriate and reported to YouTube.

[hanksnow82]

Backwards nose picking indians

[wyomingoutdoorsman]

@hanksnow82 Thanks for doing our work for us and exposing Kiesha's supporters as racist pigs.

[QueenKaidrea]

@wyomingoutdoorsman Her supporters are merely confused and scared. She did this to them, they are as much a victim of her lies as the Natives. Kiesha is the one that you need to be mad at. But that doesn't mean violence. Be of Love and Light and spread it to the Natives that are hurt by this, spread it to her followers that are hurt because of this, and spread it to Kiesha herself, for she needs lots of love and light. There is no destruction, merely transmutation, turn the dark into light.

[wyomingoutdoorsman]

@hanksnow82 It takes a lot of courage to make a Youtube account for 1 day just to post that hateful comment. The whole world can see what kind of character Kiesha's followers have. Almost every comment from Kiesha's supporters on this site has been hateful, ugly and blatantly racist. This is who Kiesha is a delusional white fraud with hateful white supremacist followers. The whole world is watching.

[englerrefugee]

@fumanchu2012 That ONLY makes sense to you. There is no need to call the police for a peaceful protest. There was no call to suggest that there would be any violence. That makes you presence here very, very suspicious.

[fumanchu2012]

Uh no. I have nothing to do with Kieshas management. I happened on these videos and left a comment. You do seem like you are stirring up violent acton on her. I'm not afraid of you or anyone although you and the people here seem unhinged even more so than kiesha herself. why not get a lawyer and sue her if she has broken indians laws? The only dog and pony shows i see here are all of these crazy videos. Hope no one gets hurt at these protests. it seems you promote that.

[englerrefugee]

@fumanchu2012 You have nothing to do with logic. It sounds like an attorney advised Kiesha not to say anything and walk right past - take the 5th. You missed that point entirely. You seem awfully devoted to Kiesha to be just a bystander who just happened to open an account yesterday with NO favorites, playlists etc. Smells fishy to me

[4thavefreespirit]

@fumanchu2012 Yeah right, out of millions of YouTube videos you just "happened" on this one? And then you devoted the next 24 hours of your life trying to insinuate that the protest was going to get violent and poor Kiesha might get hurt by the evil militant indians? Are you really stupid enough to think that anyone's going to believe that bullshit?

[SuperSPatrick]

Unbelievable. What a disgusting thing to do. How DARE she misrepresent herself, and prostitute OUR culture.

Am sick of people like this. I am a 100% Native American woman, on both sides of my family. People aren't just asked to be a "Shaman", particularly some white, lying idiot. And even if they were, and I stress here, that they are NOT, they would certainly choose someone like me, or countless other real Native Americans. Our culture is not to be trifled with.

[nadz1822]

@SuperSPatrick if your a native american why are you speaking so negative,native american people do not talk so negative,they keep positive no matter what the situation is and prey for mother earth,they do not get rapped up in dramas.peace,love and light.

[Lovingspirit2]

@nadz1822 You seem to have no knowledge what so ever about Native Americans, just the new age fantasy and wishful thinking about groups of people who "never talk negative, always keep positive". How much time have you spent on the rezes? I am sorry, nadz1822, but you seem to live in an unrealistic dreamworld. Native Americans are PEOPLE - ordinary people - they are not New Age and Hollywood fantasies and stereotypes. Please respect them for being who they are.

[SuperSPatrick]

@nadz1822 I am 100% Native American, my parents, grandparents, great-grandparents etc, we are all full-blooded Natives on both sides; and I don't appreciate YOU trying to tell me what I am 'supposed to be'. I am not speaking negatively, I am speaking the TRUTH. If you don't like knowing the truth, then ask yourself whats wrong with YOU, not me. YOU can't handle people showing YOU the light of truth. You prefer to hide behind this idiot's lies. Your problem, not mine

[latanyasdance]

@SuperSPatrick

I am sorry for another white person not respecting your traditions. I am shocked and disgusted. And I want to apologize for this woman, because I am also white and our race has given your people so much pain. It's enough!

[piyaitsapeq]

fumanchu2012, cover blown lol.



[wyomingoutdoorsman]

Please ignore the comments of fumanchu2012 - This is one of Kiesha's "managers' who is using Teaparty/Fox News techniques to insinuate that American Indians are savages who can't control their temper. This is a PEACEFUL protest. White charlatans have had ample time to spread their lies. Now, it's OUR time to speak the truth.

[d0n0harm]

@wyomingoutdoorsman As a lesbian, I am ashamed for these two teabag-for-brains hucksters and all the pain they have caused FN ppl. It's bad enough that they engage in this exploitation, but to try to stop a peaceful exercise of first amendment rights, by people who seldom have a voice is unconscionable. I hope the feminist/LGBTQ community will wake up and stop supporting these hurtful frauds like Kiesha Crowther.

[4thavefreespirit]

@d0n0harm Me too! But it's the rich WHITE less-brains that are engaging in this exploitation. True, the whole community needs to stop supporting frauds, but there are lesbians of color and white supporters who are just as pissed off about what the white girls are doing as the Native ppl are. Somebody should send out alerts to all the lez forums and newsgroups on this fraud.

[wyomingoutdoorsman]

@4thavefreespirit Yes, somebody should.

[wyomingoutdoorsman]

@d0n0harm Thanks for your words. We all need to remember that we have allies from all walks of life. Thanks for the support I hope you can reach your community.

[firstnationsfirst]

@d0n0harm Thank you for reminding us that there are good whites out there who want to do the right thing!

[quicksilverwade]

we just need to send some women elders with pots and pans and bang her head till she stops.

[iktomereturns]

@quicksilverwade Of course, you're speaking meaphorically. Remember, Kiesha's supporters aren't smart enough to understand anything that isn't literal.

[englerrefugee]

@iktomereturns Kiesha's supporters aren't smart enough to know that a bleached blond white girl with a mess of big crystals is a big fake. I'm surprised they can even remember to breath! Judging by fumanchu2012's bizarre logic, they've abandoned all functions of the brain entirely.

[4thavefreespirit]

@englerrefugee Seriously! You'd have to be pretty stupid to believe that that woman is a "shaman" No wonder why she only has rich white followers. They're so sheltered, they've never seen a brown person before so any con artist can just tell them any lie and they'll swallow it. They sure are gonna be mad when they found out they've been had. I hope they all get together and take every dime Kiesha ever made from her lies.

[piyaitsapeq]

Fumanchu,

It is a protest against her, its also an educattion to her followers, who are going to turn up to see their " Native Shamon ", then find out she is not native, that native people her against her, her exploitation and bastardization of native spiritually for her own gains. The is not in this game to bring peace, love etc. She is in it to make big bucks, from the gullable who follow her. Do you think she would help anyone out if they needed help. NO, not unless they paid her.

[fumanchu2012]

so how do you plan to stop her from speaking? physically wrastle her down to the ground?

[wyomingoutdoorsman]

@fumanchu2012 I've already heard that Kiesha is running scared and is telling her followers that she is "sick". I don't know why anyone would want to give one penny to such a liar. Our intent is to SHUT OFF the funding to this fraud and to get the IRS involved in looking over her records with a fine toothed comb. We don't need to resort to violence. Kiesha has broken several laws, swindled people out of money and deliberately misrepresented herself. This is against your white laws.

[d0n0harm]

@fumanchu2012 I think you mean wrestle - urban dictionary says to wrastle is for two guys to roll around with oil on their bodies. I doubt that any of the protesters would want to touch Kiesha with ten foot pole, but Kiesha's probably into the kinky stuff from what I hear.

[d0n0harm]

@fumanchu2012 I think you mean wrestle - urban dictionary says to wrastle is for two guys to roll around with oil on their bodies. I doubt that any of the protesters would want to touch Kiesha with ten foot pole, but Kiesha's probably into the kinky stuff from what I hear.

[4thavefreespirit]

@fumanchu2012 Where do you get violently stopping this fraud from speaking in lawful fist amendment protected protest? Are you from outer space? Are you some kind of Kiesha moonie? Why are you spending so much time trying to make Natives look violent. The protest has been over for hours and you've been posting constantly for the last 24 hrs when you formed your sock puppet account! Get a life.

[Darryld1]

All those people need is to belong. All they want to do is follow a leader. All they end up doing is disrespecting others through delusional beliefs. Pretty sad really. New Age is to Spirituality what McDonalds is to gourmet food.

[fumanchu2012]

what if she doesn't admit anything? what if she walks past you and continues with her meeting? so much anger can be easily whipped up into more than verbal confrontation. look at all the videos on these channels that are against her. they are creating a frenzy on her and someone is going to lose their temper.

[d0n0harm]

@fumanchu2012 I would not be surprised if she did. I have come to expect only arrogance and disdain for REAL FN ppl from this lying fraud. I totally expect her to continue to make money telling lies. She's too ignorant and untalented to work for a living, just like you.

[iktomereturns]

@fumanchu2012 Is that what Kiesha's ATTORNEY told her to do? Funny that such a spiritual person who doesn't believe in taking any action against any cause needs to spend so much time harassing Native people? Why doesn't Kiesha walk her walk and drop all her frivolous lawsuits against FN ppl exercising their free speech rights?

[iktomereturns]

@fumanchu2012 In terms of videos exposing Kiesha and yourself as liars and frauds - YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHING YET! We're JUST getting started. WE RUN THIS THING NOW!

[piyaitsapeq]

@iktomereturns AYEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[fumanchu2012]

@iktomereturns okay just use some common sense and settle down. you make yourselves look angry and violent. try talking to her? get a lawyer. jeez

[4thavefreespirit]

@fumanchu2012 No, you're trying to make peaceful protesters look angry and violent. And it's not working.

[englerrefugee]

@fumanchu2012 Not admitting anything ey? That's real spiritual too! That sounds like something someone would say who has just consulted a lawyer about their fraudulent activities.

[4thavefreespirit]

@fumanchu2012 "what if she doesn't admit to anything" is a strange sentence for someone who just "happened" on this video. Not admitting anything implies that you KNOW that Kiesha has something to feel guilty about. It sounds like you have a big money stake in this fraud and you are desperate to repair her reputation. Too late. All of Kieshas lies will destroy her fake shaman empire and you'll be left without an easy way to steal money from people. Karma is a biotch!

[firstnationsfirst]

@fumanchu2012 What do you mean, "What if she doesn't admit anything?" If you really just "happened" onto this video, why would you be soooooo concerned about whether someone you don't know admits any crimes she may have committed? That is a really suspicious question. Why did you have to form a whole youtube account YESTERDAY just to comment on this particular video if you just "happened" on it? You must think we're a stupid as Kiesha's sheeple.

[piyaitsapeq]

no one is stirring violence

[wyomingoutdoorsman]

@piyaitsapeq This is a common fraud tactic. In order to stifle our free speech rights, they go to the police and try to stir things up, lie about us, paint us as violent so they can use the racist institution of WHITE POWER to suppress our right to peacefully expose this fraud. White Ego woman did it in New England and Kiesha's sick manager is taking a page from her play book.

[piyaitsapeq]

Plenty of anger yes, over 500 years, of people trying to rip us off. All she has to do is admit she has done nothing but lie to people to get the money. She has nothing to do with any Ndn nation, but she tells everyone she is their shaman

[fumanchu2012]

what is your group planning to do? are you going to hurt little grandmother? seems you are stirring violence on her. i worry for her safety as I see violecne and anger being stirred on her. 

[wyomingoutdoorsman]

@fumanchu2012 Rick Walker just got into trouble for trying the same fascist right wing tactics that you are trying. Don't you white wannabes ever learn anything from history?

[wyomingoutdoorsman]

@wyomingoutdoorsman I meant Scot Walker - confused him with Rick Santorum, can't imagine why

[wyomingoutdoorsman]

@fumanchu2012 You are a big a LIAR as Kiesha is. You're not worried about her safety, you're worried about her ability to swindle people out of money this weekend. You're AFRAID that when people see who she really is, your meal ticket will disappear. Get a real job, Jen. This dog and pony show is CANCELED due to lack of interest.

[d0n0harm]

@fumanchu2012 You are just showing everyone how sleazy Kiesha's handlers are. It clearly says at (1:58) in the music, "I don’t want your blood on my hands, I only want what belongs to me." No reasonable person would think that this protest is anything other than an exercise in free speech. It's disgusting that people who claim to love mother earth so much would resort to such dishonest and underhanded tactics to continue their fraud.

[iktomereturns]

@fumanchu2012 Seems like you are deliberately spreading rumors in order to get the police on your side to suppress the protesters - real spiritual.

[englerrefugee]

@fumanchu2012 You are the only one who mentioned violence. Your tactics are transparent and your little ruse didnt' work. Violence has a specific meaning and you can't use it to describe people who are winning an argument. There is justifiable, righteous anger at a woman who has committed several unlawful acts of fraud her. You are suggesting that protesters will become violence to take the attention away from Kiesha's many lies and misrepresentations. Right wing sleazeball tactic FAIL.

[englerrefugee]

@fumanchu2012 You are the only one who mentioned violence. Your tactics are transparent and your little ruse didnt' work. Violence has a specific meaning and you can't use it to describe people who are winning an argument. There is justifiable, righteous anger at a woman who has committed several unlawful acts of fraud here. You are suggesting that protesters will become violence to take the attention away from Kiesha's many lies and misrepresentations. Right wing sleazeball tactic FAIL.

[4thavefreespirit]

@fumanchu2012 You're just acting an racist stereotypes that Native people are violent savages. Maybe you should get off of YouTube and check your own whiteness and your own racism instead of trying to build up Kiesha by putting down Native Americans. Your behavior here shows that Kiesha's teachings don't do anything to improve the character of her followers -- or are you just in this for your share of the pot? How much did Kiesha steal from the gullible this weekend?

[Bonsay3]

it is ok

[fabrice1701]

it is possible to report his videos because they offend the First Nations.

[fabrice1701]

Hello, I'm french and totally agree with you. She has no right to do what she does. She is not First Nations. It's theft of Aboriginal traditions. Too many people do not respect your customs to make money. It's a shame.

[quicksilverwade]

@fabrice1701 you need to speak to valerie roig. she charges 300 euros to europeans to do plains dance traditions.

[wyomingoutdoorsman]

@quicksilverwade Thanks for the tip. If you have contact info message me.

[wyomingoutdoorsman]

Thanks. Everyone is welcome to mirror it. Let's get the word out on this FRAUD!

[iktomereturns]

Awesome vid bro! Ok if I mirror it?

[rezjrprod]

WTF!!! delusional!!!