The word "day" actually occurs 475 times in the Quran. But by counting only the singular form, it gets 445. For the 30 Plurals and duals - I don't see what's special about that.
So how to we get to 365? Well, totally random, all forms with suffixes go out. Why ever.
With other "miracles", the plurals, suffixes and so on remain.
You'll find similar examples in each long enough random text you'll take. Especially with this way of producing miracles by chosing another way to count for each one.
erm, what is so special about how many times the words are repeated? i mean you can find codes and hidden messages in both moby dick too, and especially in the torah,, what is the meaning of thos numbers? what is their connection? what makes them beyond coinsidence?
If you think its fake and eay to do>> try to write a book talking about hundreds and hundreds of topics qhile mantaing such balance of numbers! Allah Akbar
just think for while...all this mathematics and science (the quran) what this world is witnessing now and will witness in future was recited and introduced by prophet Mohammad(pbuh) who was uneducated....so we have no right to question the Allah's words 'the Quran'...may Allah grant us the taufeeq to understand the quran and research on it correctly...
this is what is Quran...this world what we see with science and technology,about this is given in the Holy Quran and scientists have been using Quran to research science and what science and technology we witness till present is taken mostly from the Quran but have not been exposed. and there are forth many undiscovered things in the Holy Quran which can take mankind to the future.
Scientists have not been using the Q to research science, Makk2. That's a vapid claim. Can you give ONE (1) example of a scientific discovery that we owe to the Q? Only one concrete example??? I'd like to hear it, but I fear it will not be forthcoming.
Statements referring to human reproduction and development are scattered throughout the Qur'an. It is only recently that the scientific meaning of some of these verses has been appreciated fully. The long delay in interpreting these verses correctly resulted mainly from inaccurate translations and commentaries and from a lack of awareness of scientific knowledge.
If you start reinterpreting obscure verses with hindsight, you will definitely find surprising hidden meanings, Gorilla! :) But that amounts to self-delusion. Judged soberly, the Q yields nothing of interest in the scientific field.
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The word wine is repeated 6 times in Quoran-according to the Video Clip; It is also the tender age, in years, of Ayesha when she was subjected to sexual abuse (pedophilia) by MO. What a mathamatical miracle, in the comic Book
No crookedness therein , no falsehood can ever approach it., A standing challenge placed by Allah Himself to men and jinn to produce if they could, a book of similitude in wisdom, a chapter or even a sentence. The Oft Knowing guards and preserved His book as according to His Plan. A profound message meant to all the worlds.
11.Prophet Muhammad was an apostle foretold by Prophets before him in scriptures and prophesies not only by Moses and Jesus but in major religions of the world. Thus he was described in the Al Quran as The Seal of the Prophets with a religion perfected as Mercy to mankind universally. May Allah bestow His Light and Mercy to those He chose. PEACE. BE TO ALL.
1. As I said Gr8, some 'believers' want to read Muhammad INTO the Gospel. It's a telling fact that Christian thinkers from Paul to Tertullian, from Eusebius to Augustine, all those writers, theologians, apologists, mystics between Jesus' death and the time of Muhammad do not spend even ONE SINGLE WORD on the idea of some Arab prophet completing Jesus' mission. They do write an awful lot for AND AGAINST all kinds of ideas. Not ONE SINGLE WORD against an Arab so-called final prophet. Why not?.....
Spot on, Bes! And the same is true of non-Christian thinkers and commentators btw. They didn't devote one line to a foretold Muhammad. For the same reason. Finding M in the Bible is a classic non-starter. The Mother of All Dead-End Streets!
BTW, Bes is the one that mentioned scriptures first, not me. How about you try your own advice on for size and ponder what I mentioned? But of course you won't, you are too busy defending rather than remaining open to truth!
In the gospels Jesus was asked if HE were "that Prophet" that was to come, and he answered "no." And it is only an assumption that the one to be raised up like unto Moses was Jesus. Jesus even said that he was not sent but unto the house of Israel. Jesus never lead any people in a way like unto Moses, but Mohammed did. Anyone is free to believe what they will; like I said, I don't proselytize.
2.......Because the idea didn't exist. It never occurred to them to prove or disprove it. The thought simply never came up. It's only 'believers' who can force and twist verses from the gospels in such a way that they take on a meaning which goes against the entire spirit of both the Jewish and the Christian traditions. Imagine: a so-called Final Prophet after the Messiah! It's one of those pathetic 'prophecies' post factum, Gr8. No one ever found it in the gospels BEFORE the Muhammadan craze!
@Bes..There is no such thing as a "Muhammadan craze" for one thing. He is not to be worshipped. AND, if you looked at the Torah, Gosples, as well as the Qur'an with a mind to find the truth rather than to simply dispove what doesn't fit into your present ideology then you could see it as well. Believe whatsoever you will. I don't proselytize.
"Not to be worshipped"? So how come you get yourself killed if you say anything against M's spurious claims to prophethood openly in a Muhammadan country? Of course the guy is being worshipped. It's idol worship without the label worship. Btw, if you're interested in the truth why don't you ponder Bes's points for just a minute instead of quoting a book that Muhammadans claim is falsified. It's all so desperate.
What they do in those countries is their cultural business. I don't need to give account for what they do. And no Muslim will tell you that the bible in its entirety is false since they believe that it was initially revealed by God. And for your information, I pondered those points YEARS AGO. So I don't need to revisit that material again, thank you very much. What is it to you, or anyone else if others believe differently? YOUR desperation is showing if you ask me; and it smacks of intolerance.
Ah, boo-oo-oo-ooh! Learn to live with the fact that some people, and educated, moderate and considerate people among them, are less than impressed with the practice and the preaching of the so-called prophet! Intolerance indeed! Have you found an answer "YEARS AGO" that was not dictated by your need to hang on to your cultural and religious identity? (Muhammad MUST be in the Bible!) Did "that material" tell you that all those authors, who discuss Stoicism, Manichaeism and a host of other......
@Ipsa..My cultural and religious identity? Wow! That is quite an assumption, don't you think?
It is neither of my culture, nor my religious identity. I am a person who did some investigations on my own. I chose to think ourside the Christian-American box that I was raised in. How about you?
Out one box, in another! What happened? The air outside a little too heady for you? The Muhammadan "box" is at least as grotesque as the Christian-American one, Gr8.
Jesus, as if it's any of your business why I'm here. All that happened is that someone said things about your holy cows that you didn't like and now you can't leave it alone. No one is forcing you to answer my drivel, nonsense, hate-crusades, spam or trollery. I like to answer yours because I don't suffer fools gladly :)
@Ipsa, It seems to be you who can't leave it alone; and this doesn't happen to be any holy cow of mine. I would just rather look at things with an open mind and leave others to do the same. I don't abide fools easily either. Yet, I respect the rights of others to believe what they will as long as they do not trample those same rights of others. Like I said before, we can just agree to disagree. That is what civilized beings do.
(contd) 'heresies' decided to give Mo the silent treatment? Is that your rational well-considered conclusion, exclusively inspired by your love of Truth? (Don't use that word lightly!) Or have you decided "YEARS AGO" (no need to revisit) that you would continue ensconcing yourself in the Muslim myth of a Muhammadan tradition that was purged from the Bible by dishonest Christians who decided centuries before Muhammad that they would blackball the Arab prophet? It's an absurd position.
@Ipsa, BTW, the fact that you and Bes chose to visit this page shows that you both are on some type of hate-inspired crusade. Otherwise, why would you come to this vid and start your nonsense? Hmm, Others have a right to their beliefs just the same as you do. Now, don't you agree? You can not "own" anyone here Bub! Check yourselves!!!
"Hate-filled crusade"? Lighten up, Gr8! Me and Ipsa are making fun of the rather ridiculous claims of Muhammad at prophethood and his vacuous Qur'an. We do that verbally. Don't suggest we're violent crusaders or jihadists. Btw, we're to the point and accurate. But there are certain things that you find hard to deal with. Notably the shaky status of M's prophetic lineage. We hit a nerve there!
Maybe GrT simply wants us to shut up, Bes :) Some religious people have this thing. They think that they're very liberal in granting other people the right to disbelieve, but in return they DEMAND the right to be "respected", which in their world-view means the non-believers should at the very least shut up instead of asking embarrassing questiions. Still, I think there are more and more Muhammadans in Europe who're beginning to get the idea of free speech, including in the realm of the sacred.
@Bes. LOL, Hit a nerve? NOT! You are MAKING ASSUMPTIONS again. I said exactly what I intended to say. If you read something other than that into it that is YOUR mindset, not mine. My question remains, why would you two come here to voice such drivel? If you don't believe in it then why bother to even be here? If you don't agree then leave others to their own views. It isn't as if you are "trying to help them." You are just a couple of TROLLS!
"Delusional", "drivel", "nonsense", "hate-filled crusade", ïntolerant", "trolls" and we DIDN"T hit a nerve, Gr8? :) You're not very good at containing your irritation. 'Qur'an and numbers!' can be called drivel with some justification. Applying that term to anything I or Bes said is an emotional reaction, not a serious contribution to a discussion. There is no Muhammad in Christian or Jewish scriptures unless you insist on putting him there. As to helping: do you want to be helped, Gr8?
LOL, You are really reaching now aren't you? That's sad. It is YOU who seems irritated. I have no need for any help from you; and you don't have the power to irritate me either. LOL!
However, we CAN just agree to disagree. I really don't relish responding to desperate and mindless posts. I would much rather enjoy my time with other endeavors.
Well do so then! You started the thread by claiming that M was prophesied in the B. If you had chosen not to dignify my point about his obvious absence in both the Christian and Jewish traditions with an answer, we wouldn't have had this acrimony. Btw, prefacing a comment with LOL usually means a respondent is NOT laughing ("desperate and mindless posts"!)
It's a bit childish Grt to call IpsaPaphum desperate after he called you that. You're the one who's hanging on to a cherished belief. YOU are defending a belief, a very tenuous claim, that he's jabbing at. After all is said and done, Muhammad is on his own. Like Baha'ullah, like Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, like Joseph Smith, like countless prophetic would-be's through the ages. Some of those preached to bolster their claims, some wielded the sword. Choose your heroes carefully.
@bes..I called him that because IT FIT! I also have no need to "hang on" to anything. Neither of you know anything about me. You guys make sweeping assumptions based soley on YOUR need to be right, not accurate. All the others that you have mentioned were on self-appointed missions as far as I am concerned. You guys ARE intollerant, though you have trained your minds to think that word could never apply to your way of thinking, but only to others with whom you disagree. DELUSIONAL.
9.The Prophet duty was to bring the message revealed by stages to the people throughout his ministry. Delivering revelation entirely as it comes to him. The people of his time rehearsed the scriptures as it comes. The Al-Quran is an unadulterated compilation of beautiful message with full of fundamental and allegorical verses which are consistent with itself. It is a Book of Truth that carries its own evidence.
8.The Al-Quran is an Inspired Message from Allah Almighty with description that makes things clear for guidance through the Angel of Revelation (Archangel Gabriel) The Holy Spirit to the last of the continuation of prophets. The Revelation were inspired to the Unlettered Prophet Muhammad by stages in pure living Arabic language.
7. Conspiring menace and destruction in the name of good they do. These are the enemies of Allah.Lessons are to be learned from history as to some civilizations Allah destroyed due to mans ignorance and arrogance. Please be warned as the Unbelievers and Hypocrites are mentioned not only in the Old Testament and the New Testament but also the Final Revelation, Al- Quran. Allah is not unmindful to their lies and will never treat them kindly. He will permit and lend you a term for now.
6. Changing the scriptural contexts with the original teachings as according to their own belief and understanding. Compromised issues with political law of the land in the period when Paganism rules. Leading those who are unaware and those lacking of knowledge towards mystical, falsehood and confusion. Amounting to generations of Unbelievers and Hypocrites. Bred hatred amongst Brothers of True Faith
5.Abraham, Moses, Jesus & Muhammad preached monotheism. The teachings and worth to the worship of Allah, the One True God. People of the Books designed their own destruction through fashioning Gods Word with their mere meager of understanding in the knowledge of the scriptures. Numerous texts are best kept in secrecy and chose specific gospels that suits their needs by abolishing, changing, twisting the Words of God.
4.Messengers were sent even before our great prophets, some are named in the scriptures some are not. They were of the same prophethood lineage in conformity to the Law passed to them.
3.Allah sent Messengers/Apostles/Warners to every single nation of this world as Mercy to mankind & jinn. As reminders of His Favors. Some spoken direct, some through the Holy Spirit (Archangel Gabriel). Step by step, stages by stages in time as according to human understanding. Some books are partially revealed, some are complete, some true teachings are deliberately destroyed, some sparsely survived, some lost in practice but the essence and pattern are the same messages to all, PEACE.
2.Allah revealed His Light in the form of Divine inspiration and revelation as Books of Truth/Guidance/Knowledge/Wisdom/Law to and for his Creations through his Righteous Messengers.
Allah gave guidance with the foundation in the system of life. Of knowledge , article of faith and commandments to general moral teachings, rights and obligations, of crime and punishment, of personal and public law.
1.We are all from the seed of Adam, the first mankind created as a vicegent on earth. Generations multiplied , spread out through earth in various form and colors, vary in cultures, customs, traditions, languages, social behaviors and understanding. Many strayed in pleasure of vices and indulge in sin. Many of the weak were oppressed . Man lead life with superstitious beliefs beyond logic and forget their Creator,Allah. Men are adamantly ignorant and arrogant to their Creator.
I did not come here to disrespect anyone , so with that said I just wanted to say all this proves is that Mohammad's tribes were good at keeping pattern and numbers. Can anyone refer me to any of the prophets miracles? all the Jewish prophets had at least 5 miracles + each. Can you please show me where I can find these in the Quran, and how do we know Mohammad was send by God, other than him saying I saw Gabriel; did anyone see him view or talk to God? Thanks again no offense to any 1.
At least the quran does not say this book has grave errors like the bible preface does.have you ever read the predace of the king james version it states clearly this book has grave errors which mean this book is full of lies and fantasies.they took twelve of johns books out but the bible bashers need them with out the asccension there teaching is vain and who states this fabrication.someone who wrote nearly a hundred years after jesus like me saying I saw elvis in tenesee but some people belive
Ok, first of all i said was "There is no God but the christian God. Jesus was not a messenger of Allah!" and i dont want to argue about all this cuz im not an expert im just saying this is wat i believe. If you want i can just delete my comment cuz i wasnt thinking then by posting it on a muslim thing. And by the way, there is some bible in your quran so your quran has lying in it too then. And if you want to argue about religion go argue to venomfangx he will put up a good arguement
If your copy of the Quran is different, it is likely to be translated with another word, although the content is all the same and not editted. Scholars translate it differentlY. This man counted the terms based on his Quran - and to be more authentic, he READ THE ARABIC QURAN and proved Quran and numbers through the Arabic version.
So you can't really say hes wrong until you have counted the words in his copy of the Quran unbiasedly.
Even then, the likelyhood will be that some of these=right
Subhan'Allah... This does not surprise me because the whole universe is created in due proportion... Is it any wonder that His book will be any less then that? Excellent video. Jazak'Allah Khair.
Nice video Masha Allah. The Qur'an is surely The Miracle of Miracles! May Allah Gudie people to read it and understand it the way IT REALLY IS. Ameen!
To Islam enemies:
Is this a Coincidence too?
Quran Is Allah's words to us..
I do love Islam.. thanks for Allah That i'm a muslim.
19901367walaa 6 months ago
ما أعظم الإسلام، ما أعظمه.
الحمدلله على نعمتيّ الإسلام و العقل، الحمدلله.
19901367walaa 6 months ago
Keep cryin 4 ur bitch ass freedom, CRYFReeeDOM.....BUT dont Blame it on ISLAM.... I am not a religious person but ISLAM is the one and only one.
Out7Law 7 months ago
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Out7Law 7 months ago
The word "day" actually occurs 475 times in the Quran. But by counting only the singular form, it gets 445. For the 30 Plurals and duals - I don't see what's special about that.
So how to we get to 365? Well, totally random, all forms with suffixes go out. Why ever.
With other "miracles", the plurals, suffixes and so on remain.
You'll find similar examples in each long enough random text you'll take. Especially with this way of producing miracles by chosing another way to count for each one.
mawa89g 8 months ago
erm, what is so special about how many times the words are repeated? i mean you can find codes and hidden messages in both moby dick too, and especially in the torah,, what is the meaning of thos numbers? what is their connection? what makes them beyond coinsidence?
simonz3 1 year ago
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Out7Law 7 months ago
numerology always fools the fuckwits
myironlungca 1 year ago
watch?v=mzrO4yp808c
FERDIfarid 1 year ago
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Salamz,
Has anyone ever COUNTED these claims? I tried, in 3 different translations (including Arabic) and never got the right numbers.
Could it be, these miracles are FAKE?
mrafi094 1 year ago
ALLAH AKBAR
Reda009 1 year ago
ameen
we must make this widespread
the miracles of Qur'an proof it is Divine
WorldCapitalBeats 2 years ago
Number-juggling. A type of obscurantism that is easily exposed.
IpsaPaphum 2 years ago 3
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amitjaitly1001 2 years ago
If you think its fake and eay to do>> try to write a book talking about hundreds and hundreds of topics qhile mantaing such balance of numbers! Allah Akbar
MSA1771 2 years ago 2
The video description has the word "words" repeated three times, exactly as many as the word "number".
Also, the word "repetitions" is repeated twice, just like "mathematical miracles". The word "of" is repeated twice as many times, 4.
The characters "m" and "M" are found 18 times in the description. At the same time, there are as many "d"s and "t"s as "e"s, namely, 42, or 18*7/3.
Actually, 42/18=2,(3), which is within 0,01 of (e-pi*0.12).
Need I continue?
nickolayer 2 years ago 4
Brilliant!!! I would have given 4 exclamation marks but I didn't bother to check your numbers!
BesACB 2 years ago
Ah, I get it, BesABC, you're referring to Nickolayer's comment :)
IpsaPaphum 2 years ago
just think for while...all this mathematics and science (the quran) what this world is witnessing now and will witness in future was recited and introduced by prophet Mohammad(pbuh) who was uneducated....so we have no right to question the Allah's words 'the Quran'...may Allah grant us the taufeeq to understand the quran and research on it correctly...
makk2cool 2 years ago
God has given us a fee thinking brain thus we are free to question..
duhjuce 2 years ago
Number juggling. You can prove anything with that, so you prove nothing.
IpsaPaphum 2 years ago
this is only one miracle from 100s of miracles the quran is a miracle and no body can denay that
11101ahmed 2 years ago
this is what is Quran...this world what we see with science and technology,about this is given in the Holy Quran and scientists have been using Quran to research science and what science and technology we witness till present is taken mostly from the Quran but have not been exposed. and there are forth many undiscovered things in the Holy Quran which can take mankind to the future.
makk2cool 2 years ago
Scientists have not been using the Q to research science, Makk2. That's a vapid claim. Can you give ONE (1) example of a scientific discovery that we owe to the Q? Only one concrete example??? I'd like to hear it, but I fear it will not be forthcoming.
BesACB 2 years ago 2
Statements referring to human reproduction and development are scattered throughout the Qur'an. It is only recently that the scientific meaning of some of these verses has been appreciated fully. The long delay in interpreting these verses correctly resulted mainly from inaccurate translations and commentaries and from a lack of awareness of scientific knowledge.
bosniangorilla 2 years ago
If you start reinterpreting obscure verses with hindsight, you will definitely find surprising hidden meanings, Gorilla! :) But that amounts to self-delusion. Judged soberly, the Q yields nothing of interest in the scientific field.
BesACB 2 years ago
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The word wine is repeated 6 times in Quoran-according to the Video Clip; It is also the tender age, in years, of Ayesha when she was subjected to sexual abuse (pedophilia) by MO. What a mathamatical miracle, in the comic Book
ac44na45va46 2 years ago
the words numbers prove christian proves evil
2342041 2 years ago
THE WORDS OF THE ALLAH(god)
The koran is the miracle...
burakkk55 2 years ago 2
WHO IS IN THE AUDIO I WANT TO GET IT
bosniangorilla 2 years ago
salaam! it is Ahmed Bukhatir
LearnTruthFindPeace 2 years ago
salaam brother. thank you very much
bosniangorilla 2 years ago 2
The nasheed is called 'Ketaab Allah'
LearnTruthFindPeace 2 years ago
No crookedness therein , no falsehood can ever approach it., A standing challenge placed by Allah Himself to men and jinn to produce if they could, a book of similitude in wisdom, a chapter or even a sentence. The Oft Knowing guards and preserved His book as according to His Plan. A profound message meant to all the worlds.
786yasin786 2 years ago
11.Prophet Muhammad was an apostle foretold by Prophets before him in scriptures and prophesies not only by Moses and Jesus but in major religions of the world. Thus he was described in the Al Quran as The Seal of the Prophets with a religion perfected as Mercy to mankind universally. May Allah bestow His Light and Mercy to those He chose. PEACE. BE TO ALL.
786yasin786 2 years ago
Muhammad was not foretold, Yasin. He's on his own. All attempts to read him into other scriptures are in vain.
BesACB 2 years ago
Are you going to deny that in the Gospel there was another prophet to come after Jesus? Because it is in there.
Gr8Teaist 2 years ago
1. As I said Gr8, some 'believers' want to read Muhammad INTO the Gospel. It's a telling fact that Christian thinkers from Paul to Tertullian, from Eusebius to Augustine, all those writers, theologians, apologists, mystics between Jesus' death and the time of Muhammad do not spend even ONE SINGLE WORD on the idea of some Arab prophet completing Jesus' mission. They do write an awful lot for AND AGAINST all kinds of ideas. Not ONE SINGLE WORD against an Arab so-called final prophet. Why not?.....
BesACB 2 years ago 3
Spot on, Bes! And the same is true of non-Christian thinkers and commentators btw. They didn't devote one line to a foretold Muhammad. For the same reason. Finding M in the Bible is a classic non-starter. The Mother of All Dead-End Streets!
IpsaPaphum 2 years ago 4
BTW, Bes is the one that mentioned scriptures first, not me. How about you try your own advice on for size and ponder what I mentioned? But of course you won't, you are too busy defending rather than remaining open to truth!
To-may-to
To-ma-to
Po-tay-to
Po-ta-to.
Leave it alone.
Gr8Teaist 2 years ago
In the gospels Jesus was asked if HE were "that Prophet" that was to come, and he answered "no." And it is only an assumption that the one to be raised up like unto Moses was Jesus. Jesus even said that he was not sent but unto the house of Israel. Jesus never lead any people in a way like unto Moses, but Mohammed did. Anyone is free to believe what they will; like I said, I don't proselytize.
Gr8Teaist 2 years ago
2.......Because the idea didn't exist. It never occurred to them to prove or disprove it. The thought simply never came up. It's only 'believers' who can force and twist verses from the gospels in such a way that they take on a meaning which goes against the entire spirit of both the Jewish and the Christian traditions. Imagine: a so-called Final Prophet after the Messiah! It's one of those pathetic 'prophecies' post factum, Gr8. No one ever found it in the gospels BEFORE the Muhammadan craze!
BesACB 2 years ago 4
@Bes..There is no such thing as a "Muhammadan craze" for one thing. He is not to be worshipped. AND, if you looked at the Torah, Gosples, as well as the Qur'an with a mind to find the truth rather than to simply dispove what doesn't fit into your present ideology then you could see it as well. Believe whatsoever you will. I don't proselytize.
Gr8Teaist 2 years ago
"Not to be worshipped"? So how come you get yourself killed if you say anything against M's spurious claims to prophethood openly in a Muhammadan country? Of course the guy is being worshipped. It's idol worship without the label worship. Btw, if you're interested in the truth why don't you ponder Bes's points for just a minute instead of quoting a book that Muhammadans claim is falsified. It's all so desperate.
IpsaPaphum 2 years ago 3
What they do in those countries is their cultural business. I don't need to give account for what they do. And no Muslim will tell you that the bible in its entirety is false since they believe that it was initially revealed by God. And for your information, I pondered those points YEARS AGO. So I don't need to revisit that material again, thank you very much. What is it to you, or anyone else if others believe differently? YOUR desperation is showing if you ask me; and it smacks of intolerance.
Gr8Teaist 2 years ago
Ah, boo-oo-oo-ooh! Learn to live with the fact that some people, and educated, moderate and considerate people among them, are less than impressed with the practice and the preaching of the so-called prophet! Intolerance indeed! Have you found an answer "YEARS AGO" that was not dictated by your need to hang on to your cultural and religious identity? (Muhammad MUST be in the Bible!) Did "that material" tell you that all those authors, who discuss Stoicism, Manichaeism and a host of other......
IpsaPaphum 2 years ago 2
@Ipsa..My cultural and religious identity? Wow! That is quite an assumption, don't you think?
It is neither of my culture, nor my religious identity. I am a person who did some investigations on my own. I chose to think ourside the Christian-American box that I was raised in. How about you?
Gr8Teaist 2 years ago
Out one box, in another! What happened? The air outside a little too heady for you? The Muhammadan "box" is at least as grotesque as the Christian-American one, Gr8.
IpsaPaphum 2 years ago
@Ipsa, Just like you, and everyone else, I had no control over the conditions into which I was born. Stop reaching - it's obvious.
Why are you here? You never answered that. Quit spamming up the page!
Gr8Teaist 2 years ago
Jesus, as if it's any of your business why I'm here. All that happened is that someone said things about your holy cows that you didn't like and now you can't leave it alone. No one is forcing you to answer my drivel, nonsense, hate-crusades, spam or trollery. I like to answer yours because I don't suffer fools gladly :)
IpsaPaphum 2 years ago 2
@Ipsa, It seems to be you who can't leave it alone; and this doesn't happen to be any holy cow of mine. I would just rather look at things with an open mind and leave others to do the same. I don't abide fools easily either. Yet, I respect the rights of others to believe what they will as long as they do not trample those same rights of others. Like I said before, we can just agree to disagree. That is what civilized beings do.
Gr8Teaist 2 years ago
Second that! This sounds less like wanting to shut us up, Gr.
BesACB 2 years ago
(contd) 'heresies' decided to give Mo the silent treatment? Is that your rational well-considered conclusion, exclusively inspired by your love of Truth? (Don't use that word lightly!) Or have you decided "YEARS AGO" (no need to revisit) that you would continue ensconcing yourself in the Muslim myth of a Muhammadan tradition that was purged from the Bible by dishonest Christians who decided centuries before Muhammad that they would blackball the Arab prophet? It's an absurd position.
IpsaPaphum 2 years ago 4
@Ipsa, BTW, the fact that you and Bes chose to visit this page shows that you both are on some type of hate-inspired crusade. Otherwise, why would you come to this vid and start your nonsense? Hmm, Others have a right to their beliefs just the same as you do. Now, don't you agree? You can not "own" anyone here Bub! Check yourselves!!!
Gr8Teaist 2 years ago
"Hate-filled crusade"? Lighten up, Gr8! Me and Ipsa are making fun of the rather ridiculous claims of Muhammad at prophethood and his vacuous Qur'an. We do that verbally. Don't suggest we're violent crusaders or jihadists. Btw, we're to the point and accurate. But there are certain things that you find hard to deal with. Notably the shaky status of M's prophetic lineage. We hit a nerve there!
BesACB 2 years ago
Maybe GrT simply wants us to shut up, Bes :) Some religious people have this thing. They think that they're very liberal in granting other people the right to disbelieve, but in return they DEMAND the right to be "respected", which in their world-view means the non-believers should at the very least shut up instead of asking embarrassing questiions. Still, I think there are more and more Muhammadans in Europe who're beginning to get the idea of free speech, including in the realm of the sacred.
IpsaPaphum 2 years ago 3
I hope you're right Ipsa.
IpsaPaphum 2 years ago
@Bes. LOL, Hit a nerve? NOT! You are MAKING ASSUMPTIONS again. I said exactly what I intended to say. If you read something other than that into it that is YOUR mindset, not mine. My question remains, why would you two come here to voice such drivel? If you don't believe in it then why bother to even be here? If you don't agree then leave others to their own views. It isn't as if you are "trying to help them." You are just a couple of TROLLS!
Gr8Teaist 2 years ago
"Delusional", "drivel", "nonsense", "hate-filled crusade", ïntolerant", "trolls" and we DIDN"T hit a nerve, Gr8? :) You're not very good at containing your irritation. 'Qur'an and numbers!' can be called drivel with some justification. Applying that term to anything I or Bes said is an emotional reaction, not a serious contribution to a discussion. There is no Muhammad in Christian or Jewish scriptures unless you insist on putting him there. As to helping: do you want to be helped, Gr8?
BesACB 2 years ago
LOL, You are really reaching now aren't you? That's sad. It is YOU who seems irritated. I have no need for any help from you; and you don't have the power to irritate me either. LOL!
However, we CAN just agree to disagree. I really don't relish responding to desperate and mindless posts. I would much rather enjoy my time with other endeavors.
Gr8Teaist 2 years ago
Well do so then! You started the thread by claiming that M was prophesied in the B. If you had chosen not to dignify my point about his obvious absence in both the Christian and Jewish traditions with an answer, we wouldn't have had this acrimony. Btw, prefacing a comment with LOL usually means a respondent is NOT laughing ("desperate and mindless posts"!)
BesACB 2 years ago
It's a bit childish Grt to call IpsaPaphum desperate after he called you that. You're the one who's hanging on to a cherished belief. YOU are defending a belief, a very tenuous claim, that he's jabbing at. After all is said and done, Muhammad is on his own. Like Baha'ullah, like Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, like Joseph Smith, like countless prophetic would-be's through the ages. Some of those preached to bolster their claims, some wielded the sword. Choose your heroes carefully.
BesACB 2 years ago 2
@bes..I called him that because IT FIT! I also have no need to "hang on" to anything. Neither of you know anything about me. You guys make sweeping assumptions based soley on YOUR need to be right, not accurate. All the others that you have mentioned were on self-appointed missions as far as I am concerned. You guys ARE intollerant, though you have trained your minds to think that word could never apply to your way of thinking, but only to others with whom you disagree. DELUSIONAL.
Gr8Teaist 2 years ago
9.The Prophet duty was to bring the message revealed by stages to the people throughout his ministry. Delivering revelation entirely as it comes to him. The people of his time rehearsed the scriptures as it comes. The Al-Quran is an unadulterated compilation of beautiful message with full of fundamental and allegorical verses which are consistent with itself. It is a Book of Truth that carries its own evidence.
786yasin786 2 years ago
8.The Al-Quran is an Inspired Message from Allah Almighty with description that makes things clear for guidance through the Angel of Revelation (Archangel Gabriel) The Holy Spirit to the last of the continuation of prophets. The Revelation were inspired to the Unlettered Prophet Muhammad by stages in pure living Arabic language.
786yasin786 2 years ago
7. Conspiring menace and destruction in the name of good they do. These are the enemies of Allah.Lessons are to be learned from history as to some civilizations Allah destroyed due to mans ignorance and arrogance. Please be warned as the Unbelievers and Hypocrites are mentioned not only in the Old Testament and the New Testament but also the Final Revelation, Al- Quran. Allah is not unmindful to their lies and will never treat them kindly. He will permit and lend you a term for now.
786yasin786 2 years ago
6. Changing the scriptural contexts with the original teachings as according to their own belief and understanding. Compromised issues with political law of the land in the period when Paganism rules. Leading those who are unaware and those lacking of knowledge towards mystical, falsehood and confusion. Amounting to generations of Unbelievers and Hypocrites. Bred hatred amongst Brothers of True Faith
786yasin786 2 years ago
5.Abraham, Moses, Jesus & Muhammad preached monotheism. The teachings and worth to the worship of Allah, the One True God. People of the Books designed their own destruction through fashioning Gods Word with their mere meager of understanding in the knowledge of the scriptures. Numerous texts are best kept in secrecy and chose specific gospels that suits their needs by abolishing, changing, twisting the Words of God.
786yasin786 2 years ago
4.Messengers were sent even before our great prophets, some are named in the scriptures some are not. They were of the same prophethood lineage in conformity to the Law passed to them.
786yasin786 2 years ago
3.Allah sent Messengers/Apostles/Warners to every single nation of this world as Mercy to mankind & jinn. As reminders of His Favors. Some spoken direct, some through the Holy Spirit (Archangel Gabriel). Step by step, stages by stages in time as according to human understanding. Some books are partially revealed, some are complete, some true teachings are deliberately destroyed, some sparsely survived, some lost in practice but the essence and pattern are the same messages to all, PEACE.
786yasin786 2 years ago
2.Allah revealed His Light in the form of Divine inspiration and revelation as Books of Truth/Guidance/Knowledge/Wisdom/Law to and for his Creations through his Righteous Messengers.
Allah gave guidance with the foundation in the system of life. Of knowledge , article of faith and commandments to general moral teachings, rights and obligations, of crime and punishment, of personal and public law.
786yasin786 2 years ago
1.We are all from the seed of Adam, the first mankind created as a vicegent on earth. Generations multiplied , spread out through earth in various form and colors, vary in cultures, customs, traditions, languages, social behaviors and understanding. Many strayed in pleasure of vices and indulge in sin. Many of the weak were oppressed . Man lead life with superstitious beliefs beyond logic and forget their Creator,Allah. Men are adamantly ignorant and arrogant to their Creator.
786yasin786 2 years ago
I did not come here to disrespect anyone , so with that said I just wanted to say all this proves is that Mohammad's tribes were good at keeping pattern and numbers. Can anyone refer me to any of the prophets miracles? all the Jewish prophets had at least 5 miracles + each. Can you please show me where I can find these in the Quran, and how do we know Mohammad was send by God, other than him saying I saw Gabriel; did anyone see him view or talk to God? Thanks again no offense to any 1.
Pharaoh714 3 years ago
salam or shalom to you brother.
i can link you to a very nice video on youtube
just write down sheikh shady then go to never ending story,is from adam peace be upon him to the last prophet.peace be upon them all,it's very nice.
peace mate
nassim2828 2 years ago
You can't connect the linage or the Prophets bro, do you know what that means? The prophets each had a message, they all pointed towards Jesus.
Moses the Burning bush which is the symbol of the Virgin birth.
Abraham the sacrifice of Isaac which is a symbol of the sacrifice of Christ.
David said he will be crucified and tortured.
Hosea the Prophet said God will call out his son Out of Egypt ... Ie Jesus.
What did Muhammad prophecy?
Oneness of God was already known for 1000s of years.
Pharaoh714 2 years ago
How did they know it took earth 365 days to complete one revolution around the sun?
momin8888 2 years ago
yes and this was known and discovered in the Egyptian calender before Islam and Christianity.
Pharaoh714 2 years ago
do you want miracles like in their times or miracles as smthg impossible happened at the time of the prophet ?? we have the two .
IraqFalcon 2 years ago
We the Muslim we have no need to lie!
Just see the Video of "Shabir Ally"
Mathematical Miracle
Note: The Basis for those Number is the arabic Version!!!
almao2006 3 years ago
There is no God but the christian God. Jesus was not a messenger of Allah!
super1sweet2 3 years ago
fine
almao2006 3 years ago
At least the quran does not say this book has grave errors like the bible preface does.have you ever read the predace of the king james version it states clearly this book has grave errors which mean this book is full of lies and fantasies.they took twelve of johns books out but the bible bashers need them with out the asccension there teaching is vain and who states this fabrication.someone who wrote nearly a hundred years after jesus like me saying I saw elvis in tenesee but some people belive
OZMYMAN 2 years ago
Ok, first of all i said was "There is no God but the christian God. Jesus was not a messenger of Allah!" and i dont want to argue about all this cuz im not an expert im just saying this is wat i believe. If you want i can just delete my comment cuz i wasnt thinking then by posting it on a muslim thing. And by the way, there is some bible in your quran so your quran has lying in it too then. And if you want to argue about religion go argue to venomfangx he will put up a good arguement
super1sweet2 2 years ago
If your copy of the Quran is different, it is likely to be translated with another word, although the content is all the same and not editted. Scholars translate it differentlY. This man counted the terms based on his Quran - and to be more authentic, he READ THE ARABIC QURAN and proved Quran and numbers through the Arabic version.
So you can't really say hes wrong until you have counted the words in his copy of the Quran unbiasedly.
Even then, the likelyhood will be that some of these=right
oombuddah 3 years ago
can somebody prove it ... cuz some ppl say these repetition is false ??!!
allah akber
almansoori999 3 years ago
Day=yawm in singular occurs 445 times.
Man/Woman occur 24 times.
Land=barr occurs 12 times, sea=bahr 33 times.
Do you need the verse numbers?
kereng5 3 years ago
yea exactly ... but in the video it says 356 days word repeated ... and 32 bahr
almansoori999 3 years ago
Some numbers in the video are simply wrong and the rest is no miracle too.
24 times rajul=man: 2:282 4:12 6:9 7:63 7:69 7:155 10:2 11:78 17:47 18:37 23:25 23:38 25:8 28:20 33:4 34:7 34:43 36:20 39:29 39:29 39:29 40:28 40:28 43:31
33 times bahr=sea: 2:50 2:164 5:96 6:59 6:63 6:97 7:138 7:163 10:22 10:90 14:32 16:14 17:66 17:67 17:70 18:61 18:63 18:79 18:109 18:109 20:77 22:65 24:40 26:63 27:63 30:41 31:27 31:31 42:32 44:24 45:12 52:6 55:24
kereng5 3 years ago
In that case, open up a Quran and see for yourself brother. Don't listen to others ! Bless you !
Alihisss666 3 years ago
Salam I found in English Quran Word Bird(Singular) is came 4 times Animal(Singular) too came 4 times .. please confirm it from Arabic Quran.
imran1172 3 years ago
Salam I found in English Quran Word Bird(Singular) is came 4 times Animal(Singular) too came 4 times .. please confirm it from Arabic Quran.
imran1172 3 years ago
Heres a comment..
There is no God But Allah
Jesus is a Messenger and prophet of Allah!
muslimconvert1122334 3 years ago
I see no comments from the non-muslim brothers.Come on,we are waiting.....
theNuNe 4 years ago
lol! ALLAH AKBAR!
great comment brother!!
kindera888 4 years ago
As salalm uh alaykum this truly blows my mind. Salawat
Mustafaibnb12 4 years ago
Zazakallah khair sister
jahan360 4 years ago
Subhan'Allah... This does not surprise me because the whole universe is created in due proportion... Is it any wonder that His book will be any less then that? Excellent video. Jazak'Allah Khair.
bb21qq 4 years ago 5
Jazakallah Khair for your love and support.
Z31380 4 years ago
Jezeka Allah Khayran for the video!
newmann83 4 years ago 2
Subhanallah
Quran is haqq and arabic is easy to repeat compare to other languages so we can easily repeat tasbih and quran.amazing!
saalihin 4 years ago
jazak allah khayran, alhamdu lilah we are muslims
intiktube 4 years ago
Lost for words...
Riks118 4 years ago
Awesome
streetbabi 4 years ago
amazing
famisim 4 years ago 2
jazak allah khayr
dhuha1973 4 years ago
Asalaam Mualaikum Gr8 Video I Agree With you
Jazak Allah Khair 4 This Wonderful Video Amiin
witir 4 years ago 3
subhanallah, just makes you think huh
hably 4 years ago 3
Truly Awesome video
Jazal Allah khair.
BeMyBro 4 years ago 3
Nice video Masha Allah. The Qur'an is surely The Miracle of Miracles! May Allah Gudie people to read it and understand it the way IT REALLY IS. Ameen!
Faaz987 4 years ago 3
SalaamAlaikum, JAZAKALLAH KHAIR.
spiritlite 4 years ago
Wa alaikum salam. Mubarakallah!
Z31380 4 years ago