Afghan Kung Fu Movie - Arrest of a Taliban Suspect (English Version) pt3

[shkbthry]

everything was ok but the indian song is ruin it

[tamgiang]

when did the taliban learn the shaolin moves

[airforceallie]

@tamgiang afghanistan and china are neighbors; anything could happen!

[patrickohooliganpl]

I like the movie but the ideology you hide behind it seems harmful. Before the Mahmud of Ghazni Kabul was a happy Vajrayana country where the people were governed according with the just Buddhist principles expriencing both secular happiness and powerful spiritual means to achieve the Buddha state of mind under the power field of the Gurus. Then the Muslim invaders came into the country, ruined it's famous monasteries and Buddhist universities where also the secular science was taught.

[patrickohooliganpl]

P.S. My intention is to make you a difficult question and dispel the misunderstanding how do you justify your rights to the country which from times of Ashoka and Menander was a craddle of totally different religion than yours and reportedly much more benign one both to the followers and non-followers.

[airforceallie]

thanks for watching the movie, but please keep in mind that islam came to afghanistan in the 7th century, and it didn't become 99% muslim until the end of the 18th century. even though there were horrible religous-based movements of forced conversion, it is totally against the principals of islam. also, the same types of sciences, if not better were going on in other parts of the world such as islamic spain, where jews and christians also took part in moving science forward.

[airforceallie]

also, i sense from your last comment by the use of "secular" science you are hinting that in some way it is better that any type of science where the scientist is religious. keep in mind it was mostly only christians who had/have an issue that science is in constant competition with religion but it was not the case in the dramatic developments in science during the golden islamic and jewish ages of science.

[patrickohooliganpl]

Yes I know, as your Prophet said "seek the knowledge even in China". I know about the presence of Muslims in India, China and Afghanistan before Mahmud of Ghazni, even close to the times of Prophet Muhammad. I know that some of your people were disciples of local scientists as e.g. Jabbeer bin Al-Khayyan was a favourite student of the Buddhist Acarya Nagarjuna, a logician, mathematician and alchemist known e.g. for his supernatural longevity, nitric acid and alcohol distillation.

[patrickohooliganpl]

I also know that the Muslims learned and developed a really impressing amount of Kung-fu in China. But the "honeymoon" ended with the unscrupulous actions by Mahmud of Ghazni about 1000 years ago. The Muslim-Buddhist relations become more than tense to the great both sides' --- but greater the Buddhists' --- disadvantage. The frustration grew so deep and last up to the present days, that some of the lamas who teach me (although not all of them) show strong dislike to Muslims, Islam and Muhammad.

[airforceallie]

i agree with you, because we both conclude that the actions of muslims in later days have nothing to do with islam, even if they say it does.

obviously you have learned quite a lot of stuff. but when you meet someone who automatically hates you because of your look or your faith (such as lamas who meet a muslim, or a chinese who meets a japanese), you can do very little to change their mind except in your actions. thanks for sharing some knowledge with me i appreciate it.

[patrickohooliganpl]

The first 4 caliphs made base for Islamic law but also some of the later caliphs, especially the Abbasids, made much development of Islamic Civilization. As a part of my plan to write the first Wuxia novel in Poland, I'm currenlty studying some history of C&E Asia 1st half of 2nd century AH about the time when the rebellion of Abu Muslim broke out and Abbasids came to power. Now, I'm focusing on finding some historical facts about the Chinese-Arab battle of Talas and general Gao Xiangji.

[patrickohooliganpl]

One of the main episodes of the novel will be actually a chapter when the main male hero who was an aid-de-camp of the Arabic general is fleeing the Caliphate after beheading of his commander to "Hindu-Shahi" governed Kabulistan and finds the main female heroin of the story --- the daughter of the Japanese aid-de-camp of Gao Xiangji (who himself was not a native Chinese but a son of a Korean mercenary) after the Gao's beheading by the Emperor (despite quelling the An-Lushan Rebellion by Gao).

[patrickohooliganpl]

You probably guess the break-out of the intensive and turbulent romance between the hero and a hot warrior girl against whom he fought in the Battle of Talas.

[airforceallie]

that sounds awesome! it sounds like a great setting. you can be sure i'll be out to buy it when it comes out!

[airforceallie]

also, if you are hinting that because Mahmud of Ghazni's era was 300+ years since the arrival of islam, just think of what has happening to other religions and kings associated with them after 300 years; you'll see that nothing was "close" to the original tenets of the faith. leaders do bad things for power whether they are religious or not. except for a one or two, the muslim leaders became corrupt, money, and power-hungry after the 4th caliph.

[afghaan]

haha lol

[Marshadipaolo]

THAT'S MY BABY!!!!

[NassemAir]

lol its very funy