Alternative Medicine Goes Mainstream

[hajamir]

Please view and like this video on youtube. It is to win a competition

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[Dowmiir]

alternative medicine has no side effects becouse it has no effects at all. Plain and simple bullshit!

[cidpusa700]

This is excellent information, alternative medicine has no side effects and is cheap and natural the web site cidpusa.org is a excellent source of information

[Feneter]

Dr. Dutton should have his medical license revoked. He is a national embarrassment.

[kkowalsky]

Excellent report. I really enjoyed it. What I don't understand is why so-called traditional medicine doesn't work with alternative treatments rather than taking an "either or" approach. I have a webpage about an alternative cancer treatment (biomat.com/alternative-cancer­-treatment/) that we encourage cancer victims to use as an way to augment any chemotherapy they may be using. Many of our patients swear that helps but none of them has ever said that our product causes them to digress.

[sirdynehhmite]

St. John's Wort Commercial: /watch?v=VoD7EAs1rA8

[Buhzie15]

you know what you call alternative medicine that works? Medicine.

[NitroxideHS]

cannabis oil cures cancer.

[ephcollins]

do you seriously think that if so you need to inform yourself better WAKEUP chinese have been using acupuncture for thousands of years and it has been working for thousands of years. come out of that little box you live in and open your mind!!!!

[pyramidheadkitten9]

@ephcollins people used to piss on themselves for warmth for thousands of years, youre saying thats the best way to do it?

[MannySteinerBleeky]

@pyramidheadkitten9 - what animals have you heard of that 'piss on themselves for warmth'? That's right the answer is - NONE. Which is also one reason that we know that no real humans did so either. Without the robot slaves you rely on for everything in your life, you however wouldn't just be peeing yourself, you'd be drinking your piss straight too since you wouldn't know about how to get any food or water.

[MannySteinerBleeky]

@ephcollins 'do you seriously think that if so you need to inform yourself better WAKEUP chinese have been using acupuncture for thousands of years and it has been working for thousands of years. come out of that little box you live in and open your mind!!!!'

They don't have minds, they are literal boxes.

[randomlarpingman]

@randomlarpingman - Oops sorry, right ritual wrong orifice.

[MannySteinerBleeky]

@randomlarpingman - I'm not you peado, and you certainly are not me. I don't clone channels, copy people, and I sure don't do what you do online. Or offline.

No rituals took place, your conspiracy seeded various lies that you made up entirely in your sick minds, that you hold hovering in the backdrop un-admitted to openly, as that is what enables you to think they are going to ever produce any outcomes that stay real. Kill yourself fagjewpaedo.

[MannySteinerBleeky]

@randomlarpingman - sure you aren't over the whole doing impressions of spambots period yet? Not even a bit? So how long do you intend to keep doing that shit, another 10 years?

[randomlarpingman]

@MannySteinerBleeky Oops sorry, right ritual wrong orifice.

[MannySteinerBleeky]

@randomlarpingman - as said, you think a real programmer programs spambots like you? No they do not.

Ritual. Read your posts, what could you possibly have to offer up the universe to help evolution?! Oh let's seed it with the energy of insane stalking and no honesty, mmm great idea for a new age that is. You know your foundations alright.

[MannySteinerBleeky]

@randomlarpingman - you're like a sky-jelly hypno-snake with all that beezar jive yo speak. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if jewpube went ahead and let you have a moving hypno-version of my picture you're using. I suggest a colour-cycler effect.

And the universe probably does matter. If not then, why bother with anything at all, including breathing?

[MannySteinerBleeky]

@randomlarpingman - fag, where did you even get the idea to copy my original channel, and then post with it using mishmashes of lots of my posts? Some even faggier interpretation of cut-ups?

[infinitehumanstupid]

People should be taught healthy scepticism starting with the school system. Energy fields as in the video don't exist and crazy people are scamming the ignorant...

[DracOverLordHaton]

@infinitehumanstupid - yes they fucking do. The aura is real, you cannot get physically ill unless your aura is first thrown out of harmony. This is known of by plenty of people trained as doctors, surgeons, nurses etc.

Most things in todays world fuck up the aura / soul - because they are harming the ecosystem, or in some way are out of balance with nature, which also messes up human energy.

The military knows that auras are real too, they have training methods to show people how to see them

[infinitehumanstupid]

@DracOverLordHaton You know there is no alternative medicine... it is either scientifically proven or it does not work. Yes I agree that there are plenty of people who are crazy to believe in such mumbo jumbo...

[DracOverLordHaton]

@infinitehumanstupid - it's like the label alt energy, it's not actually alternative at all, it's older and more established, and as usual more holistic therefore more correct, than what it today is claimed to be an alternative to.

Just use logic, it's crazy to think that people knew nothing of health and medicine, until some modern techniques showed up. Sanity builds upon what went before, it doesn't replace it - it worked fine. Same thing they did to farming, removed what worked well.

[DracOverLordHaton]

@infinitehumanstupid - example. Bone-knitting, ancient Chinese technique. Practiced today much, who the fuck even teaches it? Nope, you get a break, you end up in a cast for way longer and in a more un-natural manner than your body actually needs to recover. They knew how to break bones - so they would heal, stronger than they were previously. Using natural means.

Know why? Because their military developments matched their healing developments. You learn to break it, you have to learn to fix it

[DracOverLordHaton]

@infinitehumanstupid - it is very easy to determine how mentally-ill modern society is in general, as it produces and forces in lifestyle changes that overall are extremely harmful to health and ecology, therefore it creates more disease.

We have a lot of advanced surgical techniques that are new, however it's mostly needed because un-natural things lead to horrific accidents, injuries, and debilitating longterm underlying illness.

[infinitehumanstupid]

@DracOverLordHaton Could you tell me when was society not "mentally-ill"? People's life expectancies have gone up due to modern medicine. Yes sure there is lots of criticism on how medicines are implemented and subscribed (Ritalin for example). I looked up Bone Knitting and it is done by using remedies, and an Chinese study suggested that some chemicals might be useful, but some caused imflammation. There are studies into these "alternative medicine", and some have effects.

[DracOverLordHaton]

@infinitehumanstupid - probably tribal / indigenous societies are and were the only not mentally ill ones, they're the only ones that stay 100% grounded in the actual reality of this planet. There's certainly some older cultures that are more of the 'lets build really big shit and have even more heirarchically organised societies' who also are very much on the sane side - but they sadly all either got killed off, or enough of them got corrupt and ruined it all. Maybe some ascended.

[DracOverLordHaton]

@infinitehumanstupid - "some caused inflammation"?! You won't find a pharm, whether street, OTC (over the counter) or prescription, that isn't full of needless toxins.

Why do you think they always add things that are toxic to biology to medicines? Why don't they put in the active ingredients, and the rest is natural and safe?

[DracOverLordHaton]

@infinitehumanstupid - plus anyway, there's so much wrong with this world and too much not explained right, I wouldn't have been able to concentrate properly on anything until I found it all out, so it'd just have turned out as it is now in my life. I know, I'm hitting you with all these responses, but I'm a very intense person and it's why I don't talk to people much offline - I crave reality only, no stupid shit no hidden lies, no cheap talk. Fills my head full of rubbish I then have to excise

[DracOverLordHaton]

@infinitehumanstupid - if you like same stuff as me though then I'm ramble on about that for ever. Movies, music, that kind of thing, fun stuff. Clothes, places I went to, the best inebriants. As long as it's things I like. I'm good at share-buddying - when someone likes some tv show for example, but I never watch it, but if I like hanging out with them I'll watch it. I empathise with others around me. It's why I need to be around good energies 100% of the time, or I languish. This happens.

[infinitehumanstupid]

@DracOverLordHaton Once they undergo scientific studies with large groups they are either accepted as working medicine. You know even oil was produced naturally, as have poisonous mushrooms. Alternative medicine is just a term for untested material, which some has been proven to absolute pseudoscience (like homeopathy), some work only on placebo, and some are downright dangerous causing liver complications in the long run. This does not mean you shouldn't be skeptical of your doctor.

[DracOverLordHaton]

@infinitehumanstupid - homeopathy isn't fake. Neither is the info about how water has a memory. They are connected, the real reason anyone's saying homeopathy is fake is because if they say it's real they then have to admit and accept that even the tiniest bit of pollutant in a river or soil or air or water supply is indeed toxic and has indeed fucked up the whole thing energetically.

[infinitehumanstupid]

@DracOverLordHaton Doctors are human too. Go to a few doctors, and read about the subject yourself as well... but if you had tumor head would you take alternative medicine to save you? You should also read some history... life expectancy before 1800 was around 35 years!

[DracOverLordHaton]

@infinitehumanstupid - you're really stupid. 'go to a doctor', 'doctors are humans too' - duh..

so just cause I know about other real things, I think doctors are all mad? I don't see how you can draw that inference.

I should also read some history? No, you should, cause you have zero clue about anything that has been proven 1000s of years ago, like herbal medicine from around the world. Aryuvedic, Chinese, are well documented. European too, Native American..

[DracOverLordHaton]

@infinitehumanstupid - life expectancy differs widely around the world too. Plus it says nothing about quality of life that people tend to live longer these days. It's known that food preservatives (artificial dangerous ones..) play a big part in the appearance of the longevity.

Before 1800s - what, when they were down mines and inhaling asbestos? Working with burning chemical fumes? Shovelling coal? Living in places that forgot how to deal with their own feces, throwing it in the streets?

[DracOverLordHaton]

@infinitehumanstupid - I'm not sure what I'd do if I had a tumor or anything else of that type. It depends. I'd like to think - if it was a bad thing - I'd take the morphine and the rest I'd just go with nature, not that opium isn't natural. I wouldn't want chemo for example. Everyone dies anyway, it's the only sure thing you know will happen to you. Ok maybe some people go off on a UFO like Enoch and ascend, but that's pretty much the same as dying anyway.

[DracOverLordHaton]

@infinitehumanstupid - you know those medicals that some people go for, when they probe you in places nothing should ever go in that sense? I don't go for those. If I was floating above my mangled body having an OBE, and paramedics were trying to revive me, and if I went back into my body I'd live - I wouldn't go, because it's stupid. This is all stupid. I'd have bits of me missing, it'd be a terrible pointless thing to endure.

[DracOverLordHaton]

@infinitehumanstupid - and if it wasn't major, like for example - I for a while, cause of the Bush Admin timebent soul-abusing, ate some things I shouldn't have*. I got a weird growth on my leg, and I agreed to go get it taken out, on the NHS cause otherwise I'd have had to sell my organs to afford the surgery.

The surgery was fine, but I hate it cause I'm just as scarred, in one of the few places my skin is all smooth and nice. If it was done proper, there'd be no scarring.

[DracOverLordHaton]

@infinitehumanstupid - *shit like what they sell in most places, toxic sweeties, 10p crisps, fizzy pops I'll mention no brand names - you know them, meats - I'd eaten some not even organic or sustainbly caught.

[DracOverLordHaton]

@infinitehumanstupid - I might have gone into medicine if I hadn't been told all my life that university was only for people who were geniuses and got five As for their Highers, it's one of the earliest things I remember wanting to do - doctor / surgeon. We lived near the areas first ever woman doctor, and I was always learning how do bandages etc like at age 8 even; you may have noticed I have a big interest in health.

Being qualified in a thing doesn't mean you agree with all aspects of it!

[jerseygrl5]

Well, if I'm faced with cancer, you can bet I won't be opting for the cut and burn method or the "let's see if we can kill you with chemicals or the cancer first" method. Allopathic medicine is a farce. I'd rather die than have those bastards pretend to try and 'cure' me. And I've seen several relatives die UGLY deaths....not from the cancer but from the chemo.

[nikigurl08]

@jerseygrl5 I agree! The medical world is just terrified of losin big profits!! The medical world treats symptoms not problems. And tho symptoms they treat dont make the problem go away, and they often have side effects, sometimes deadly ones. Thats y there are alway lawyers sueing some drug company for nasty side effects.

[nikigurl08]

@jerseygrl5 I've also heard of a thing called B17 treatment, as an alternative to chemo. Unlike chemo there's something about this treatment that can recognize affected cells, so instead of attackin just rapidly fast growing cells like your hair, its kill only affected cells. And chemo destores your immune system which utlimately kills you. So yea I hear you I wont have chemo done if I ever got cancer.

[jerseygrl5]

@nikigurl08 Yep, B17 is in apricot kernals. I eat them everyday. It's also in seeds of apples and pears.....tastes slightly of bitter almonds. I used to donate to the various cancer societies but now when they called for "the cure" I have one message....,"We already have a cure, it's called what you put in your pie hole."

[snofthndr]

How can they justify this?

"Some alternative therapies may help, as long as patients are getting traditional treatment too"

What is the difference between this and a scam?

[ghuegel]

These therapies *are* dangerous. If I was in a hospital and the person in the bed next to me had nurses waving their hands around, chanting, going into paroxysms, invoking crystals, or some other such nonsense... I might have a heart attack.

[D119heavy]

@ghuegel totally right on, if I saw any of that bullshit going on in a hospital I, or anyone I cared about, was receiving care from I'd be out the door in a second; as far as I'm concerned health insurance shouldn't have to pay for placebos.

[nikigurl08]

@ghuegel The wavyin of the hands in the motion she makin is triggering the electromagnetic field in your body. Its like takin two magnets and movin them around each other. Your body has electrical pulses throughout the nervous system and electrical pulses can be absorbed. if you dont believe me touch an electric fence and feel the shock. Movin her hand is movin the electricalmagnetic current or absorbing the current. There is a lot of science in this. And no crystals. 

[todoke]

Auf dieses Video antworten...

Uh, and i thought you could be reasoned with...

You are batshit crazy

[ghuegel]

@nikigurl08 Yes, the nervous system runs on electrical impulses. And electrical current will affect the body. But humans can't *generate* electricity or magnetism to any significant degree (we can conduct it, as with static electricity). Even if we could transmit a current (eg, hook yourself to a generator and pass the current to another person), manipulating the effects of the current on another person is not plausible.

It's all about healing via an intention to heal, ie, quackery.

[nikigurl08]

@ghuegel We do have electric currents and magnetic currents running through our body and those currents will interact with other ppls current at a closer contact. Kinda like when you have two magnet near each other. You dont have to touch the magnet to move them but you do have to have them at a closer distance. And no its not a huge current, but in science small fraction of something can have make the biggest difference.

[DracOverLordHaton]

@ghuegel - look, plenty of people can generate a lot more spark than others. Some people generate enough that it affects electrical appliances near them. What your kind are doing when you lie about these things, is that you are using your EM fields to try to change the spin and settings of other people's EM fields, to stop them knowing the truth and seeing what you are actually up to. That's the real reason you deny these things.

[ghuegel]

@DracOverLordHaton That's a strange position to hold. That people who disagree with you *really* agree with you, but are lying about it for some conspiratorial reason(s).

I honestly do not believe that people can affect each other (or machines) through self-generated EM fields. I've seen no evidence that a person's self-generated EM field can have any influence over the health or thoughts of others.

If such abilities existed, they would be fairly easy to prove. Where is the evidence?

[DracOverLordHaton]

@ghuegel - it is more than obvious from what I wrote that it's not that they agree - they know it is true, and they say it isn't true basically because they *think* 'satan' is going to help them for attacking important true things.

Fact is, it is a conspiracy, and it's been going for ages. It's the same one responsible for all other evils. Which you sound well aware of. There is a crucial aspect to what you are doing that all of you miss.

[DracOverLordHaton]

@ghuegel "I've seen no evidence that a person's self-generated EM field can have any influence over the health or thoughts of others."

Well fucking hell you need to do some studying then. Cause if you can't find info on that that convinces you, then you must not be able to look up sources and then read them and then compare them to one another.

[ghuegel]

@DracOverLordHaton Point me to this evidence, if it's so obvious. I've looked into this stuff enough, and it's all false claims. If you have some good evidence to the contrary, show me. You make a claim, and I say you're wrong... Prove your claim. Make me look like a fool. Go for it.

If you have sources, and I believe you don't (ie, you're full of it), then put up or shut up.

[DracOverLordHaton]

@ghuegel - there's no way you have read even a chapter in a book or tome about anything even as 3D-only as herbal medicine. You don't even appear to know about clinical nutrition. Maybe it was lost admist my other comments, but you don't seem either to be aware that the NHS doesn't officially agree with your, frankly bizarre, views on alt medicine / complementary therapies. Do you know what the NHS is?

[ghuegel]

@DracOverLordHaton NHS?, I'm not in the UK. You seem to be well versed in this bullshit. Point to a study showing that people can affect each others' health or attitude or thoughts or anything at all via self-generated electric or magnetic fields.

Why bring up herbal medicine?, or Satan? Energy medicine is a specific claim, and easy enough to prove it if works. Focus on that for a bit.

Cite something specific on that, then we maybe can move on to all of alt medicine.

[DracOverLordHaton]

@ghuegel - you know you are lying. The rewards they promise you for siding with what you do will not manifest, they just make you think you have gained anything, and your mind stays asleep in the astral as your body here consumes their toxins so they can keep you stupid. Nothing of sense can get through to you until you start using your real eyes and ears.

[ghuegel]

@DracOverLordHaton I'm not lying about anything here, and I have no idea what rewards you're talking about; nobody has suggested any personal gain for my speaking against pseudoscience - that is just crazy conspiracy theory talk.

You fail to offer any evidence that this energy medicine stuff works or even that it can work in theory. Why not?  Please, give a link, suggest a source, where can I learn about this stuff?

[DracOverLordHaton]

@ghuegel - you ask today, 'where can I learn about this stuff' - to me, someone who found out all I needed to know, before there was a world wide web with all the info on it for free, from the same seat your ass is in right now as you read this.

So as is usual with you armchair liar wing of the pedo-cult, you aren't even aware you just revealed that you haven't even begun to research a thing about this topic - yet you post about it like you are an authority.

Shutup Matthew Hopkins.

[ghuegel]

@DracOverLordHaton I've read plenty of internet sources, and no credible source claims that this stuff works. I know a good deal about physics, and no plausible mechanism exists. I state an opinion, and ask you for a single source to the contrary, and you're unable to offer anything. You accuse me of being a liar, satan, part of a pedo-cult (??), and a witch-hunter.

Conclusion: you're a paranoid belligerent narcissist with no understanding of the subject at hand or of the scientific method.

[DracOverLordHaton]

@ghuegel 'Conclusion: you're a paranoid belligerent narcissist with no understanding of the subject at hand or of the scientific method' = you!

As usual, in actual reality, where all sane people from this planet - or any other planet (ie - not cloned fails like you are, made by a total asstard loser with no clue) know that 'energy medicine' of course is fucking real you moron. Just cause your kind either have no souls, or you sold them for short-term material-only crap, doesn't make it faked.

[DracOverLordHaton]

@ghuegel - idiot you are a fucking witch-hunter. They murdered people for knowing how this reality works, and they made lies up saying they were evil and doing bad occult shit - when it's you cunts who are evil and who are doing the bad occult shit.

If all those people hadn't been genocided, there'd be none of the massive ecological and environmental and health etc problems on this planet that currently plague it. No coincidence the main culprit nation/s murdered all their spirituals.

[DracOverLordHaton]

@ghuegel - we observe how the evil you speak for works, its usual divide and conquer method is obvious here without even looking at the esoteric or conspiracy history. Separate the people from their planet - get them destroying it for a living - only possible by removing their physical everyday link to it (urbanisation) and removing their ability to trust their feelings and gut instincts, or even be aware of them, by forcing half-baked interpretations of how things work onto them.

[ghuegel]

@DracOverLordHaton Sorry. Get some help. Please find a psychiatrist who can help you deal with your circumstances. You need some help, please find it.

I've made a serious mistake here. I don't want to argue with mentally ill people, and I apologize. Please, DracOverLordHaton, seek professional help.

Best wishes, and goodbye.

[DracOverLordHaton]

@ghuegel - faggot, your kind are insane. You ignore actual stuff that happens, you come up with dumbass explanations that make no sense cause they don't take the facts into account, then you invoke your Hubbards Nightmare versions of head doctors and believe that sanity is something that is near to being how you view reality.

Why the fuck do you need it explained how energy medicine works dumbass? There's not any science saying it doesn't. Just put one plus one together.

[DracOverLordHaton]

@ghuegel - scum, your kind really do have a conspiracy going that fucks up this planet and anyone normal who is meant to be here. All the Ahrimanic and Luciferian tech etc that you scum rape the Earth to make, causes problems for anything biological and abuses souls too because of the harmful pollutions of all kinds it emits. That isn't some wacky notion, it's a fucking fact, and anyone who ever went along with it does so because they are zombie fucktards with no souls.

[pyramidheadkitten9]

@DracOverLordHaton i dont even have anything to say about how much of a fucking retard you are other than you are just an attention whore who will believe anything they are told if they make it seem like some big movie conspiracy.

[MannySteinerBleeky]

@pyramidheadkitten9 = actual fucking evil retard. The conspirscy against all that is good and true doesn't get any sicker and eviler than you. Your kind are not fit to be in human DNA, you can't even advance to your sacral chakra consciousness, and what you rely on for survival at your root / base chakra - isn't even comprehended by your tiny thick-as-shit idiot minds. You're the most overcompensated-for scum this planet has ever witnessed. You're so over-reliant on technology. Kill yourself.

[pyramidheadkitten9]

@MannySteinerBleeky HAHAHA OH WOW

im sorry, i have a real to not make fun of people mentally retarded. have a nice day :3

[MannySteinerBleeky]

@pyramidheadkitten9 - same as all your other tarded fucking useless-eater comments. Acting like you don't know how right I am about everything to fo with your kind. You know damn well how true what I comment is, you know you're the same child-molester that has channels such as BrokenMaddie, and your channel that uses my real name. You've got plenty of other chanenls too, including ones named with 'kitty' in them and various references to aliens and illuminatis - as if you are illuminated.

[MannySteinerBleeky]

@pyramidheadkitten9 - fag scum I did inform you that we removed your falseness 'out of the equation' - all that crap your kind still think is going to make you look informed - such as posting shit like 'over-priviledged snob comment OMG I can make you seem as small as my sick mind actually is just by pretending in my piggyperson head that I am somehow above you' - it's not going to wash. It never did, but in terms of your dumb-spell over minds, it's been more over than you know for over a decade

[MannySteinerBleeky]

@pyramidheadkitten9 - scum the movie industry is as polluted by your conspiracy of hidden-satanism as is all else. When people like me saw The Matrix when it came out, aside from it being a decent film, we're sitting there like, 'what - the conspiracy thinks that'll actually fuckign work in distorting what it actually going on?!'

All you cunts ever do is copy us, & try to twist things & mix them up - thinking your embedded lies in others heads, in their unconscious, is going to give you an edge

[MannySteinerBleeky]

@pyramidheadkitten9 - scum you're the same child-molester with 1000s of idiot channels here at jewpube. You stole my Operation Koala animation, defaced it and tarnished it with your scumfuck mentality of the worst consciousness imaginable, and uploaded it to this webshite that lets you have any channels.

My original animation was going to be directly about the Montauk Project - then we saw what you thought you could with The Matrix, so you might say we took you out of the equation.

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[pyramidheadkitten9]

@MannySteinerBleeky also stop flooding my inbox with your meaningless noise and go make some tin foil hats you crazy piece of shit.

[MannySteinerBleeky]

@pyramidheadkitten9 - how many times have we reminded you that 'tin foil' does reflect wireless / microwave energies off of it? And you still haven't managed to take in basic science facts like that - you still keep posting the same retarded lies about it, even after being informed of the facts hundreds of times. And you act like you can say anything about intelligence, something you will never have any of.

[2xtream]

Recent visit to the Doctor, True story.... I am over 50 when asked what medications I am currently taking my reply was NONE! ... This seemed very strange for the nurse, then followed up by the Doctor that came in after a short wait. Again asked what medications I was Taking? My reply was None, And Never had to take any meds other than an antibiotic many years ago... The Doctor said that was very unusual being surprized. My response was I'm able to Manage my own Health just fine...

[rhylmart]

"Traditional" medicine also claims that there is no cure for cancer...which is the biggest filthiest lie of all. There are cures in nature...but they can't be patented so are poo poohed by the parma criminals.

[goremand]

How can alternative medcine be mainstream? Isn't "alternative" the "opposite" of "mainstream"?

[rhylmart]

vitamins and herbs..a waste of money?? This vid must be sponsored by codex alimentarius!! Jokers.. p.s. look ionto what "proven" means

[rhylmart]

Pharaceuticals have PROVEN negative side effects

[Robtehman]

Yes but many alternative medicines have side effects to. Side effects include; doing nothing to your illness, A feeling of being ripped off, not being taken seriously, and in serious diseases, death. We're working out the negative side effects. You aren't.

[keymasterninja]

BTW ram, bloodletting is still done as "alternative" medicine in parts of the world, it's all the outdated stuff too...

[deadeaded]

yay! nonsense!

[ramcity]

If you look at traditional medicine 100 years ago and look at where it is today then think about where it will be in another 100 years from now. Todays medicine will seem as primitive as bloodletting. Whereas "alternative" treatments like acupuncture and chi-gung healing have been the same for thousands of years. So before you discount the idea of invisible energy fields think about what we are all made of. Cells, molecules, atoms. We are all walking energy fields.

[keymasterninja]

@ramcity : "alternative" medicine have been around for thousands of years yes, that is exactly why you should stop thinking they work, when first looking into medicine, all we had was the alternative. What we tested and proven to work became "traditional" medicine. All you're paying for with Alternative medicine is a persuasive man/woman convincing you it'll work and the placebo effect. It's literally all in your head

[ramcity]

Sure Keymaster. Whatever you say.

[jns124able]

@ramcity but lets not confuse the energy fields of atoms etc with energy fields that modalities such as Reiki claim to manipulate.

[Olsi89]

what a bunch of shit

[openbookguy]

I agree with 2xtream. This is not about cures. We have not cured any major disease since polio. Lets face it. Anything that is not patented gets poop pooped by the Doctors which are trained by the AMA. Which I might add are on also on the board of directors for the pharmaceutical companies... Hummm.. No wonder those cheap cures like vitamin C, ozone Autohemotherapy and H202 are called infective. They work!!

[keymasterninja]

@openbookguy

Medicines are tested on a double blind basis, the doctors don't know who is getting what either. The tests are then done again, done by scientists who have no ties to the medical community and so on, it takes around six years.

If they are called ineffective after six years testing... it's because they're ineffective. Stop with all your conspiracy theory BS please and think logically about it.

[openbookguy]

Keymaster-- have you traveled all around the world looking at treatments that work and been sick enough to try anything? I have and I have seen simple vitamins and minerals cure almost anything. I'm not saying pharmaceuticals don't work they do. They suppress symptoms and don't get at the real cause! If you look at it long enough its pretty simple... Unless the cure is a deficiency in a patentable pharmaceutical, your not going to get cured! What was the last thing they cured? TB in 1944??

[jns124able]

@keymasterninja as a canadian trained senior med student...thankyou for that. =)

[jns124able]

@openbookguy um...you seem to insinuate that all physicians (or at least most) have some hidden agenda. Thats not the case. In addition, things get :poo poo'ed" as i think you mean to call it by doctors not because they arent patented, but because they are not proven. Medicine is an evidence based practice...this isnt the case with alternative modalities. It may just happen (by no accident) that the unproven treatments are also not patented but the lack of a patent isnt the reason.

[daimyophoenix]

Flirmy,

How are they "snake-oil salesmen" if it's FREE? Much of modern medicine including chemotherapy is just as effective as "snake-oil". Research the facts.

[FuzzyDuck]

From the very first image of this clip, I said to myself, "Oh, fuck." This is really alarming.

[BinkieMcFartnuggets]

They said those Kinoki foot pads would get rid of my scalp boils!

[lrmis11111]

OK she can walk around my bed doing the reiki thing but I am afraid it only works if she is below thirty and cute and naked. Only then will I relax.

[2xtream]

It does not pay to cure cancer or any disease. It pays much better to manage the disease for years rather then cure it. Why waist Billions of dollars in curing a sickness when you can milk billions from the sheep. Cancer along with most all disease including AIDs has had a cure for many years. All it takes is a little study but many people don't have time to study because there to busy on their Xbox.

[jns124able]

@2xtream and where exactly do you get this information?

[2xtream]

@jns124able: Published Medical Reviews... Its no wonder people need Doctors. They believe they can live the life they want without any regard and to rely on Doctors for there folly... Wake up kids!!! If you eat out of the microwave oven your whole life only to find you have cancers to mention just one sickness that prays on the Lazy... You will get the Doctoring they have waiting... Then they will MANAGE YOUR HEALTH CARE FOR LIFE !!!!

[jns124able]

@2xtream "Published Medical Reviews" is a little less specific than I was hoping for. Which reviews exactly are you citing? Im VERY curious as to which medical review provides evidence that we have a cure for AIDS or Cancer that is deliberately being withheld for profit. As a physician Im sure I would have been alerted to this conspiracy by now. ;)

[PerfectionObsessive]

A cheap form of placebo

[totodyal]

root doctors FTW!

[Flirmy]

snake-oil salesmen preying on gullible people

[AlexanderPimm]

yeh western medicine claims that the natural methods and old ways are not proven, however the western minded practitioners of medicine have never tested them, and they refuse to test them because they want ot keep making drugs they can charge enormous amounts of money for that might actually kill you. Acupuncture was rejecting simply because it would defy the western medicine notion of how the nervous system works. no one wanted to challenge it they just arbitrarily decided it was no good

[todoke]

Acupuncture has been studied

And the funny thing is, it does not matter where you put the needles in. The effects are the same.

In other words. It helps in many cases, but those "special acupunture spots" are bullshit.

Its probably mostly a placebo effect anyway

[nikigurl08]

@todoke If what your sayin is true than there is no such thing as pressure points. Which I assure you there are as if I press down on certain areas on your leg or arm you will twitch or scream and it wont feel good. the reason being is thats where major arteries are located in close promixity to the skin. Rubbing or striking these points feels different than striking or rubbing a non pressure point, just try a massage therapist or material arts if you dont belief me.

[todoke]

@nikigurl08

acupuncture points are not pressure points.

The fact remains. Studies have shown that it doesn't matter where you put the needles in. Its mostly placebo and maybe a on-specific needling effects that makes you feel better afterwards. Its certainly not the "special" acupuncture spots

[nikigurl08]

@todoke believe what ya want but the acupuncture points go hand and hand with the nervous system. Besides have you ever had it done or r u just reading a study off the internet. Experience it for yourself, and stop believin everything the internet tellin ya. Beside the mainstream media is gonna hate on alternative medicine because the medical field could lose a lot of doe!! So their gonna make alternative medicine look bad.

[todoke]

@nikigurl08

So i shouldn't believe several medical studies, instead i should believe anecdotal evidence...

btw "mainstream media" isn't "hating" on acupuncture. They are reporting what actual research has in this field has shown. It doesn't matter where you put the needles in, the result is the same. It mostly placebo.

[DracOverLordHaton]

@todoke - no studies showed that, same way no studies shows that AGW isn't true either. It's the same fucktarded evil conspiracy behind all those fake claims - all they do is look at real studies that prove what common-sense tells you anyway, and they fund some liars to claim to opposite. So people like you can pretend the few liar studies somehow counter the truthful actually-scientific ones that were already published before the fakes thought they could over-write the truth again.

[DracOverLordHaton]

@todoke - that is total garbage and disinfo lies at best. There are meridians of energy flow in your body. There are points that link directly to other points, that they are not adjacent to. It's initially because of how your body develops from the egg cell to the multicellular fetus. It starts at one point / one cell, as the cells divide the points 'stretch' away from each other, the original cells then becoming points further from one another, that divide too.

[DracOverLordHaton]

@todoke - also, those 'special acupuncture points' also relate to those martial arts that employ the same knowledge. You can't knock someone unconscious just gripping them anywhere - you have to do it on a specific point that has that effect. That is why those points can be used instead of other anaesthetics.

[3star2nr]

if they did that shit around me id fucking pistol whip them

[moviedude22]

BEWARE! 00:26 Nurse Hachet in the pink PJ's??? By far has got to be the most HOMELIEST lookin' broad this side of the ER. My GAWD!!!!

[shenmueryu]

Kathy Allen Shut the FUCK UP! whichever pharma company has you under their thumb rest assured the side effects are much worse than what this tradiational treatment does. Cunt

[moviedude22]

very nicely said!!! except for the cunt part, of course. lol.

[moviedude22]

107 yrs old and yet still not grown up, huh...

[abarzilai664]

More research should be done, though one can see the emotional benefits of alt. medcine. Wonder how the Atheist Mutawa will think of this :)

[mattwion]

Extremely interesting. Ever since research on the Placebo effect started being seriously studied, we have known how potent the mind, in particular our belief in the healer, is in helping cure the body.

These alterative methods can certainly help ... if the people believe it can!

But I have to agree that we cannot use this as a "replacement" for conventional treatment ... might make a very fine "supplement" though!

[jns124able]

@mattwion I guess my question is: is it ethical to allow people to believe these sham treatments are actually making physiological difference when it is not? Particularly if it is costing them money? The moment the public thinks the medical profession is being dishonest or not completely up front...the profession loses public trust and the patient-doctor relationship breaks down. This is why most competent and conscienscious physicians will not do this.