Marriage

[247Rebel]

Why do christians attack muslims on prophet Muhammad's marriage to Aysha..(though he married her at age of 20..its in the hadith and comfirmed...non-muslims who dont know or just heard it somewhere say that he married her at the age of 6..its all misunderstood (want proof ill get you the links).....while joseph maried mary at age 12 while he was 86

[kenfo0]

Obviously, we can't attest to the biology of several thousand years ago, outside documents. We know there are odd things occurring today, in which girls experience early sexual maturation due to (theorized) hormones/chemicals in food. Who knows what happened back then. Further, necessarily, people were socially more mature. Alexander Hamilton, only about 250yrs ago, was an accountant for a major company at age 14 or so. I am not condoning child marriage today, simply stating a few facts.

[MrJohnnyrace]

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[YESHUAISMERCIFUL]

The biblical age of adulthood is twenty, not 10, there is NO PROOF that anyone in the bible ever got married at 10 years old. go read the bible again and stop lying to people

[MizzArabianQueen]

its not even ppl in the past. where im from you could get married as long as u had ur period. becuz when u get ur period ur concedered a women.

[boliboy2299]

So yanks, what are you waiting to lower your obsolete age of consent? 13 will be good for you

[ansar90]

Numbers 31:18 states to keep the younger virgin girls for yourselves ... and the word used is "taph" meaning child so teh bible condones child marriages

[MirroringTruth]

It isn't that we don't believe you that people would marry young. Problem is were not "following" these people. These guys aren't prophets to us simply because they exist in the Bible. Lots daughters raped their father. It's giving a history narrative of what happened. Not condoning it. We all know how his daughters were punished for their sin. Also it's more likely that the numbers you've added up have been a scribal mistake. No Jewish king would break Jewish law (12 for girls and 16 for boys).

[realzoomy]

The only reason you people are making videos like this is so that you can get paedophilia legalised. It's wicked what you are doing.

[TheHoliday555]

@realzoomy yes! I have been trying to tell people this for a long time! pedophiles are trying to have their legal rights in many countries (even usa). and i don't think that God would send his son to earth to try to teach people and die on a cross for our sins so we can be reborn for us to rape girls/women, mistreat women, force women in to prostitution, primarily and soley associate women as inhuman sexual objects (<-- esp. in USA). i bet he is very sad looking at us :(

[EkaterinaRukovskaya]

Ahaz was a male, a 11 year old male Prince that married a Woman. But Mohammed 54 years old married a 6 year old girl when she was playing with her dolls and had sex with her at age nine. So all muslims can marry 6 year old girls is fine.

[denn034]

Deut. 24:5 and Num. 1:20, KJV, tells us that all Jewish males were exempted from military service for one year upon marrying and that military service was limited to those 20 years of age and older, which can only mean that it was contrary to the will of God for Jewish males to marry below 20 years of age like Ahaz did!

[denn034]

Contrary to the will of God is contrary to the will of God.

[Rata4You]

Joseph was estimated to be 43 yrs old when he impregnated Mary who was

11. Dude, lets be fair. Mary and Joe were on the run. They werent even married when she became pregnant. If your daughter told you a ghost got her pregnant, arent you gonna rage just a little bit? Fuck yeah! People back then werent more backwards than the rednecks we have in small town america. They have some common sense and not utterly without reason.

[nkarimzai]

Mohammad had ONE 9 year old wife WHICH BY ALL MEANS IS NOT OK! BUT LETS ME ADULTS AND REAL ABOUT THIS....Jesus had more than a handfull of child prostitutes to his feet....and lets just say he didnt say no.....lol grow up everyone....welcome to the new century...lets just respect eachother, kill the REAL racists and sick people then we all live in peace....sounds good to me...

[1Christianity]

Whatever, u sound desperate to bring allegations to the bible. but notice the verse dont read that, yet we have proof of quoting from the quran that mohammed was a rapist.

Who cares if u think the bible is corrupt, yea and the same muslim want me to blieve Jesus was talking about the rapist(mohammed) in the book of John.

Islam is a poor pathetic religion which still struggles to get authentication,just like its begining

[jakenbake5]

Numbers 31 (King James Version) 17Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

[Lovernu]

I thought about this. Spirtual laws and societal laws are completely different, in that one set governs the carnal, human nate of man while the other is directed towards living a spiritual life in the Savior. Though different, obedience to the spiritual laws supercede the latter and yet uphold them because it is stated in the spiritual that we are to obey powers that are set in place, and laws as well. Our moral compass isnt governed by GOD, we are able to think and create la...until next time.

[Lovernu]

I think that we often search the bible as if it is the infallible word of GOD, but it is only the fallible nature of MAN. If God is on trial, then you overlook that there is an evil that existed in heaven that was thrusted out of heaven. You see, the bible isnt perfect, its just what its meant to be, a perfect example of mankind. The bible tells that man is under attack from a devil, called satan once named lucifer. If the israealites who walked with god did not obey him...think about it...

[ladycub08]

Aisha (8) vs. Pedo & mass-murderer Muh. (54)

the "excellent example" to follow for all times!

DISGUSTING

[myironlungca]

i think the main point really is that muslims believe the koran to be 100% true and not to be questioned while most Christians take a more analagous approach to the bible. Anyway Mohamed married Aisha at 6 then probably underwent 3 years of thighing and sodomy until she was nine. You decide who was the pig.

[asfar000]

yes i decided you are a pig and also a hypocrite, why cant you call your ancestors pedophile, because it is proven fact that child marriage is common at medieval times

[nkarimzai]

so was being gay, female child/teen slavery for sex or whatever but mainly sex, incest, prostitution was free for all....and more....but all everyone comes up with is Mohammad and the 9 year old wife...Im muslim and NO ONE in my family would ever do that or even know someone that would do that....but i cant go crazy about people have teir oppinions...everyones holy book had some nasty "its ok" laws..but the REAL people of those religions move further not stay in medieval times...polygamy anyone?

[bhrisvfyapn]

i believe keyword here is "1889"

If you refuse to admit that we live in XXI century, stop using internet (it might be Saitan's tool, you know )

;-)

[InFromTheVoid]

wow.

[aesthetictripp]

2 Kings 16 1In the seventeenth year of Pekah the son of Remaliah Ahaz the son of Jotham king of Judah began to reign. 2Twenty years old was Ahaz when he began to reign, and reigned sixteen years in Jerusalem, AND DID NOT THAT WHICH WAS RIGHT in the sight of the LORD his God, like David his father. 3But he walked in the way of the kings of Israel, yea, and made his son to pass through the fire, according to the abominations of the heathen, whom the LORD cast out...

[InFromTheVoid]

Well...I'm glad that it was wrong whew. But our argumant was about the age at which a person according to the bible was appropriate for marriage. ALso...did he do anything else wrong in the sight of the lord that the scripture may be refering too? I'm just curious if it was refering to him having sex so young whether he was married or not.

[aesthetictripp]

He did all kinds of things wrong,and I'm not certain if the bible gives an exact age for marriage,would be nice know.

[ABAisSCIENCE]

A young male king marries a girl who gets pregnant. The Muslims example of condemnation of the Bible is of the loss of rights for a male king. Stupid.

Muhammed takes a 6 yr old to his bed & has sex with her at 9 years old.

Aisha the 9 yr old was supposedly blood-letting as if Muhammed picks just the right 6 yr old who miracle of miracles blood-lets early, but the miracle is in question for Aisha was barren. This being the medical response to early repeated sexual violation.

[ABAisSCIENCE]

Looks like we got a case for an eleven year old getting married due to being a prince. This is the story of a boy. I wonder how old the woman was who got pregnant?

Aisha married at six years old to Muhammed, peace be upon him per Matthew 10:28, and the marriage was consumated at nine years old supposedly because Aisha was blood-letting, but the miracle of early blood-letting is in question for Aisha was barren and that is the medical response of early repeated sexual violation.

[bhrisvfyapn]

1) Noone claims Old Testament is standard guidance for modern civilised society.

2) Neither Jews nor Christians accept sex with nine or ten yo girls TODAY.

Unfortunatelly some muslims (hillariously enough the same guys who use computers, tv, cell phones, modern drugs,cars,aeroplanes etc. etc) still dont understand middle ages are past.

[BruteForce003]

ahahahha OMG THIS IS STUPID I'M A CHRISTAIN AN I WILL EXPLAIN!!!..........

[BruteForce003]

ASD

[icefiredarksector748]

I don't care about Muhammad.

And I don't care for those people of the

1800s. I'd prefer the Bronze Age Ancient Israel over them any day

[icefiredarksector748]

That doesn't mean anything. You might want do some research. During 1&2 Kings, Israel had very immoral living standards. It was why God eventually punished them.

It that best you atheists can do? Why don't you try lying and overexaggerating. You people are very good at that.

[sadtranz]

Just shows what a load of crap the bible is, the koran and bible should be chucked in the bin both disgusting books

Now you know why there are so many pedophile's about been reading koran & bible

[Zeorymer300]

You have to start having babies early so that you have many daughters to toss out to get raped by annoying townsfolk when you need to talk to angels in private. Just like what Abraham did to his daughters. he had a few daughters so he had lots of quiet time.

[publicitymaker]

old testament?

[valnikolo]

It is true that today civilisation has changed due to comfort and more life span maybe it Is good because of that that we also change some ways of thinking about marriage in young age. If they are not children in age of 10 what do you thing about boys who are 10 years old getting married with older women?

[valnikolo]

In the Bible also says that Juda hang himself because he betrayed Jesus it doesnt mean you should go and do the same. There is difference in what the Bible gives us as historical information and what are Gods words that we need to follow in our life.

No matter of our religion background having intimate relationship with children is devastating for childish soul and I hope none of you or your children will ever experience that pain.

[mustafagtgt]

These were not children. These people were regarded as mature and responsible enough although they were still young to have children. The national age of consent to marriage was a minimum of 9 and this was adopted even in the Common law which took root from the demise of the Christian State. Intimate relationship was at that age was a normative practise done to proceed the marriage union. Of course today civilisation has changed due to comfort and more life span.

[IDH77]

Oh for goodnes sake have you never heard of a REGENCY?

There was a GAP between his father dying and him becoming King!

[eufalobrasileiro100]

@IDH77 They don't get it, they just wann find evil things in the Bible to cover up the filthy of islam, the sad part some dummies by into it.

[CabukMustafa]

And now, christians, who is the pedophile???:-P

[MirroringTruth]

@CabukMustafa Well lets see..Elah and Muhammad are pedophiles....glad I don't follow either.

[afghan303]

10 is still not bad ,, IN THE BIBLE IT SAYS RAPE 3 YEARS OLD... U CAN WATCH IT BY CLICKING ON ME......

[ubamilitary]

I like this video.

I am displeased at how the christian community...even now alot of jews believe that marriage age is 18.

Thanks for this video. It gave me the motivation to do some more math with other kings and kings sons in the bible.

[eoinroe47]

Ahaz died@36.its not likely that Ahaz at the age of eleven should have had a son. Hezekiah's own son Manasseh ascended the throne 29yrs l8r, at the age of 12. This puts his birth in the 17th yr of his dad's reign, or gives Hezekiah's age as 42, if he was 25 at his ascension. It is more probable that Ahaz was 21 or 25 when Hezekiah was born (and suggesting an error in the text), and that the latter was 32 at the birth of his son and successor, Manasseh.

[0oshi]

i didnt really get ur assumption, why u dont think he was 11.Anyways i dont think it is an error in the text because it is also written in another chapter (chronicles) with the same numbers[ Chr2:28:1 ]-[ Ahaz was twenty years old when he began to reign, and he reigned sixteen years in Jerusalem...]

[ Chr2:29:1 ]-[ Hezekiah began to reign when he was five and twenty years old, and he reigned nine and twenty years in Jerusalem. And his mother's name was Abijah, the daughter of Zechariah.

[eoinroe47]

look at it again. biology has assured me that no man cud fertilise a woman at 11 last century (when people were already digesting chemical preservative). It is definitely a misprint in my opinion. Who knows - if u take into account all the info and facts. mayb it was a miracle!! there are so many thousand of factors - who translated the original bible? wot language from? -- and what language to?take it frm me - its a mistranslation frm original txt --- also - i dont make 'assumptions'!

[0oshi]

hmmm well i cant take it from u that it is a mistranslation as long as u dont back up ur statment with evidences from manuscripts for eg.

for me it will remain an "assumption" until i c the evidences!

Thanks

[sailorsillystars]

@angelna0858

Muslims marry prepubescent girls while Christians marry pubescent girls

[PurgingFalsehood]

Following 11 Shia cult's infidels had launched the story of 9 year age of Aisha RA using the name of Hisham bin Arwa. This is 100% Shia's despicable act 1-Sufyan bin seed Al-Thori Al-Kufi 2-Sufyan bin Ainia Al-Kufi 3-Ali bin Mas'har Al-Kufi 4-Abu Mu'a-via Al-Freed Al-Kufi 5- Wa'ke'a bin Bakeer Al-Kufi 6-Younas bin Bakeer Al-Kufi 7- Abu Salama Al-Kufi 8- Hammad bin Zaid Al-Kufi 9-Abdah bin Suleman Al-Kufi 10-Hammad bin Samah Al-Basri (Shia) 11- Jafar bin Suleman Al-Basri (Shia)

[menextxo]

may I know what are these evidences?

i will send you invitation, please accept me

thanks

[IIPaulStinksII]

A pedo is somebody who likes to rape young BOYS and not Girls. Pedophilia is for example erm.. what Priests are doing in the church with little boys. And some BiblSSS allow to rape 3 year old babys.

[sightuponlight]

0oshi bro, thanks for uploading this very informative video of the correct age of marriage according to the bible. Most christians are the biggest hypocrites one can ever come across on God's earth. Theres a famous saying, ''whats good for the goose is good for the gander.''

Once again bro, thanks.

With Dua,

Sight.

[0oshi]

thank u brother for ur kind comment

May Allah bless u

[0oshi]

Rebbeca

there is a link below called " View all 19 comments" plz click on it and u will c all the old comments including urs.. i never deleted them

peace

[0oshi]

oh and i advise u to use a calculator coz he cannot be 13 according to the verses

where did u get this age from??? and u claim that he was 35 when he died and according to he bible his son was 25.. so how cld the age difference be 13??? :D

seems that u r poor in maths

[RebeccaFS1982]

Quit deleting my comments. You can comment on my videos all you want and I wont delete them as long as you don't use any curse words because youtube allows children to access the site.

Peace.

[0oshi]

what??????? i never deleted any of ur comments loool

[outbackcafe]

hi RebeccaFS1982, all my comments have also been deleted, so if i was you i wouldnt waste your time, instead of defending islam these muslims try to create lies from biblical history, our example is jesus, never raped or killed, he was the perfect sinless son of god, even the muslims own books says jesus is holy.

[0oshi]

lool can u read english? if u can then read the last comment i wrote about the old comments.. they were never deleted.. click on the link below" View all 20 comments" and u will find ur old comments :D

[0oshi]

never killed????

who is the god that ordered his ppl to kill the children if not ur god?

[KJV][Ez.9.6][Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.]

[sightuponlight]

outbackcafe said,

''hi RebeccaFS1982, all my comments have also been deleted, so if i was you i wouldnt waste your time.''

Im afraid u dont know Rebecca - when I debate on christian vids she is the first to ask the christian video uploaders to block me becoz she cant defend her faith. I dont believe anyone here is deleting her posts, its just that she cant defend her weak faith, lol. EXCUSES.

Sight.

[Hewdo]

My great question on this issue is how could a person who married a 9 year old girl be my typical leader to enter heaven? Lay men can marry at any age if both party reach age, but my spiritual leader needs to be a model in every aspect of life, like Moral quality, Love and Values for other life. For it is true that a disciple climax is to match with his master. Im Christian; I didnt see any quality in the life of Mohamed and even his Teachings. From the writtings on the Quran.

[0oshi]

ok plz ask ur typical leader why he chose to make a young 12 year old girl pregnant of him if this is really immoral as u see... oh and ask him why "his mother" got married to a 90 years old man at the age of 12 ..

i also dont find the moral qualities in the life of a man who refused to help a woman just bcoz she was not a jew and he only helped her when she admitted that she is a dog :(

[RebeccaFS1982]

What leader are you talking about? Yeshua never married. Mary was estimated to be about 15 when she conceived Yeshua, not 12. In order to get correct information you shouldn't use a catholic encyclopedia, catholic doctrine isn't biblical so it can't be used in such a debate about the ages of people in the bible. The marriage between Mariyam and Yoseph was set up by Mariyams family. Also Yoseph wasn't 90. LOL! He didn't even live to be 90. Who are you talking about helping a women who was a dog?

[0oshi]

i brought my refrences where are urs????

[sightuponlight]

RebeccaFS1982 said,

''Mary was estimated to be about 15 when she conceived Yeshua.''

Catholic encyclopedia informs us that Mary was 13, Jesus was born when Mary turned 14.

Anyways, can u tell me what happens to a being that impregnates a 15 year old in the country u reside? according to ur standards god would be put on the pedo register! why do u always put ur foot in ur mouth? (((LOL)) Give us a correct age of marriage according to ur bible?

Sight.

[RebeccaFS1982]

Also, I'll inform you all once again. The catholic encyclopedia isn't a reliable source, it isn't biblical, even catholics are aware of this. Same goes with the catechism, it's just an informational book of the catholic religions doctrine, it's not biblical either. Do a little research on catholicism, you'll see that they admit to changing alot of things in the christian religion and their doctrine isn't based on the bible. They have taken out and added in so much stuff, I'll list a few here.

[0oshi]

ok rebecca

but what about the orthodox sources that i told u about????

and why dont u bring us the reliable "more biblical" sources that say the age u r assuming??

i need some evidences plz!

its nice talking to u, but u have to support what u say with some resources

i brought two different resources and waiting from u to do the same plz

Peace.

[sightuponlight]

Rebecca said,

''Do a little research on catholicism, you'll see that they admit to changing alot of things in the christian religion and their doctrine isn't based on the bible. They have taken out and added in so much stuff, I'll list a few here.''

By ur standards, if I was to show u that the KJV has added and deleted verses will u agree that ur bible is no better than the catholics? Please be consistent. ((LOL))

Sight.

[RebeccaFS1982]

The catholic doctrine adding and subtracting. They've taken out all of God's eternal holidays and feast days, such as Passover, Feast of Tabernacle, Purim, the list goes on. They have added in, Dec 25 which is a pagan holiday that was celebrated for over a couple thousand years before the birth of the messiah. It celebrates the re-birth of the sun god Osiris(he has many names though). The real birth of the messiah took place during the Feast of Tabernacle which is in September not December!

[sightuponlight]

Rebecca said,

''It celebrates the re-birth of the sun god Osiris(he has many names though). The real birth of the messiah took place during the Feast of Tabernacle which is in September not December!.''

By ur standards, if I was to show u that there were 16 saviours of mankind before the advent of Jesus then will u agree that u also follow pagan beliefs? Please be consistent.

Sight.

[RebeccaFS1982]

Ishtar(Easter), who was worshipped as the "Mother of God and Queen of Heaven by the pagans long before the birth of the messiah. Doesn't that sound familar? The catholics worship Mary and call her queen of Heaven. They added the holiday easter to their doctrine, I believe so they can worship her more effectivley without being shunned. In the bible it doesn't give a specific age of marriage but it does say that you have to be a woman in order to be married. -continued below.

[RebeccaFS1982]

A female would be considered a woman when she reached the age of menstruation. Now days girls as young as 11 and younger are menstruating younger than they were 20 years ago because of the hormones that are fed to the animals used for meat. About 100 years ago, it's estimated that girls were about 15-16 when they began to menstruate, now they are younger. It makes sense to me. When a female menstruates, she is able to conceive a baby so, physically she's a woman, mentally I'm not sure. LOL

[0oshi]

Rebecca said:

"A female would be considered a woman when she reached the age of menstruation."

i totally agree :)

And thats why Aisha R.A stayed three whole years in her parents' house until she reached puberty and only then they consummated the marriage, so prophet Mohammed PBUH got married to a "woman"

But i thought u wld bring biblical sources concerning the age of Mary coz u argued that the catholic ones r not biblical!

Peace

[RebeccaFS1982]

You can't get anymore biblical than the bible itself. I use the hebrew scriptures most of them time because the newer versions of bibles have been changed to better suit peoples religons. As I've said before I'm against organized religion because they aren't even biblical anymore, they are all about rituals that the God of Israel is against. The king james version is pretty reliable. All you need to do is get a concordance for the bible and you can find out what you want. Do you know what it is?

[sightuponlight]

Rebecca said,

''I use the hebrew scriptures most of them time because the newer versions of bibles have been changed to better suit peoples religons.''

I totally agree with you that all the bible version are corrupt. The Quran informed us about that over 1400 years ago. We told ya.

Sight.

[RebeccaFS1982]

No one told me lol, I figured it out myself when someone gave me an NIV version as a gift. I have been reading the hebrew scriptures for a very long time and when someone gives you something that is totally different, you kind of figure it out when you read it. Besides, I wasn't alive 1400 years ago. I don't belong to the catholic church or any other sect of christianity. I'm against organized religion. I was born a conservative jew and no longer belong to that sect. I worship in spirit & truth.

[sightuponlight]

Rebecca said,

''Besides, I wasn't alive 1400 years ago. I don't belong to the catholic church or any other sect of christianity. I'm against organized religion. I was born a conservative jew and no longer belong to that sect. I worship in spirit & truth.''

U are a rebel, they kicked you out of the mainstream, lol! Im not surprised if u go around saying all the bible versions are corrupt!. Im getting a feeling ur on the Islamic side, lol.

Sight.

[sightuponlight]

Rebecca said,

''I worship in spirit & truth.''

Lots of mainstream christians say the same thing. How do u worship in spirit and truth? do u know more than paul, mark, luke, john? dont tell me ur picking and choosing? LOL!

Sight.

[sightuponlight]

Rebecca said,

''No one told me lol, I figured it out myself when someone gave me an NIV version as a gift...I'm against organized religion.''

Wouldn't u be better off trying to convince those 'christians' who take all the versions of bible as the word of god? all u have to do is show them ur hebrew bible? they will soon dump all the versions of the bible. According to the bible Jesus was in an organised religion, what do u have to say about that?

Sight.

[sightuponlight]

Rebecca said,

''I have been reading the hebrew scriptures for a very long time.''

We do not have any of the original manuscripts of the books that have been included in the Bible. That's really bad news for people who have been reading it for a long time! ((LOL))

Sight.

[0oshi]

no i dont know

explain plz

[0oshi]

"Age of Consent throughout history has usually coincided with the age of puberty although at sometimes it has been as early as seven.[...] The Roman tradition served as the base for Christian Europe as well as the Christian Church itself which generally, essentially based upon biological development, set it at 12 or 14 but continued to set the absolute minimum at seven.

Source: Journal of Psychology & Human Sexuality

Volume: 16 Issue: 2/3

ISSN: 0890-7064 Pub Date: 5/3/2005

[RebeccaFS1982]

I think the age of 7 is too young. A 7 year old girl cannot properly take care of a baby, let alone herself. I have nothing agsinst teens getting married, as we know that's how they did it in the old times. But a preteen girl in my opinion is too young. They need to be mature enough to care for a baby like I said. It doesn't bother me that Mohammad married a 9 year old girl it bothers me that people are using that as a reason to rape girls not marry but rape. They aren't clear on the subject.

[sightuponlight]

Rebecca said,

''I think the age of 7 is too young. A 7 year old girl cannot properly take care of a baby, let alone herself.''

Actually Aisha was 6 when she married the Prophet. This is totally acceptable in Islam. When the girl reaches the age of menstruation she has the right to refuse consummation of her marriage. Did u know that? Did u know that the marriage to Aisha was divinely inspired by God through a dream?

Sight.

[RebeccaFS1982]

I was resonding to his message about girls beginging to menstuate at the age of 7, not Aisha. That happened a really, really, long time ago, it doesn't affect me, I don't care. I only care if girls are being harmed in todays society, weather it be by a muslim man or a man of any other religion. You already know I don't have the same beliefs as you. It's not worth arguing over, I can't waste my time arguing. If we're going to be arguing then it's not worth even commenting back and forth.

[sightuponlight]

Rebecca said,

''It doesn't bother me that Mohammad married a 9 year old girl it bothers me that people are using that as a reason to rape girls not marry but rape. They aren't clear on the subject.''

Ur a dummy. Have u seen the paedophilia behaviours of westerners? are they following Islam? Priests are sexually molesting boys and girls everytime they get the chance. Are the priests following Islam? Raping of kids is in the bible: Numbers 31:7-18.

Sight.

[sightuponlight]

Rebecca said,

''A female would be considered a woman when she reached the age of menstruation.''

I dont think u have understood my question. According to the law of ur country would the impregnating of Mary at the age of 15 make one a pedo? In my country of england, yes. Although I agree a menstruating female is ready by nature to reproduce. I have no probs with u on that.

Sight.

[RebeccaFS1982]

Sight, you're missing the whole point. You are accusing the Holy Sprirt of having sexual intercourse with Mary, that didn't take place. If you're asking what would happen to a male who has sex with a 15 y/o girl, weather he imprgnates her or not, in the US then my answer, pretty much nothing. 15 y/o's have sex and get pregnant all the time. My best friend was 15 when she got married, she didn't get pregnanyt until 6 years later but her husband was 20 and nothing happened to him.

[sightuponlight]

Rebecca said,

''If you're asking what would happen to a male who has sex with a 15 y/o girl, weather he imprgnates her or not, in the US then my answer, pretty much nothing.''

So u would be ok if a 50 year old man talked ur 15 year old daughter into sexual activity?

Sight.

[sightuponlight]

Rebecca said,

''You are accusing the Holy Sprirt of having sexual intercourse with Mary, that didn't take place.''

Why would the HG need to overshadow Mary? Just to make Jesus the ''begotten son'' of god. ((LOL))

God could have just said ''BE'' from where ever he was without the need of the famous act of overshadowing Mary.

Sight.

[RebeccaFS1982]

Sight, you and I will never agree with eachother on certain topics and beliefs. We should just agree to disagree. It's a waste of time for both of us to argue about the same thing over and over again, really. I honestly don't have the time to argue about something I know we disagree with. You know I work and go to school and don't have time for this nonsense, so we should just call a truce and talk about other topics, the weather for instance lol.

[RebeccaFS1982]

Actually, he was 35 when he died and also he was 12 almost 13 when he had his son. I don't think people are too concerned with Mohammad's wife being 9, they are concerned that the quran allows a man to marry a girl as young as 1 week old. And although you cannot have intercourse with her, the quran allows a man to have then baby suck on his penis and allows him to masterbate using the baby's thighs. It reads that you can put your penis between her legs and masterbate if you want.

Peace.

[RebeccaFS1982]

I also find it odd that you use Ahaz as an example and compare him to Mohammad. Even if Ahaz was 3 when he married it still wouldn't have anything to do with G-d or jews and christians. Why, you may ask, well Ahaz was a very wicked and evil man. G-d was always displeased with him, that's why he died at 35, cus he was so evil. G-d never gave him permission or permitted him to marry, but you're using him as an example of christianity? In the quran Allah permits certain things, same as the bible.

[RebeccaFS1982]

G-d allowed certain things in the bible and allah allowed certain things in the quran. You can't take your prophet

Mohammad and compare him to an evil wicked man like Ahaz trying to justify pediophillia. It just doesn't work that way. The only people who are going to fall for that are morons or fellow muslims.

Peace.

[0oshi]

oooh

u seem to have read another Quran than mine :D

i'm waiting from u to get me one single verse fromt he Quran that proves the crap u just said here

[RebeccaFS1982]

I don't remember the Sura's, but i have certain things highlighted with a marker. My Quran is being borrowed by a friend right now. I will glady give you the Sura's when I get it back. Judging by your grammar, english isn't your first language. I only speak hebrew and english, not arabic. I would assume that mine is a mistranslation however, one of my friends who is a muslims confirmed it to me when I asked. He said that the Sura is correct. He's muslim so he has no reason to lie.

[RebeccaFS1982]

Like I said though, it could be that my quran is mistranslated and when I get it back I will give you the Sura numbers and you can share with me what your quran says in place of mine. I would be veryu thankful if you did so.

Peace.

[0oshi]

again... i challenge u to bring evidence from the Quran for ur claims ... if ur Quran is borrowed to a friend u can find ur self one on the net :)

im waiting ...

[0oshi]

i just hate it when ppl talk about islam and Quran without refrences and evidences

even a mistranslation wldnt say all the lies u just said abt the Quran simply coz there are no verses that say what u said, so how can they be "mistranslated"????

concerning ur deleted comments, i swear i didnt intend to delete any of ur comments.. i only delete comments that contain curses to my God or my prophet.. anyways u can write them again if u want

[outbackcafe]

2kings 16:2 says, Ahaz was twenty years old when he became king,and he reigned in jerusalam sixteen years. unlike david his father,HE DID NOT DO WHAT WAS RIGHT in the eyes of the lord his god. verse 3 goes on to say this evil king even sacrificed his son to a pagan god. the bible simply writes facts whether negative or positive because thats how truth should work. how fortunate for christians to have a perfect example to follow, he never killed or raped. in fact he said to love your enemies etc

[babyshaq34]

well said...

[RebeccaFS1982]

Christians don't go by the old testiment they go by the new testiment, and everything that Yeshua/Jesus taught. That's why they are so giving and loving and stuff like that. I am a messianic jew so I go by the whole thing, Torah, Tanach and Brit Chadasha.

Next time say "jews", don't say christians, you make yourself look ignorant when you do that.

[0oshi]

ignorant??? lool dont christians believe that ALL the scripture is the word of god including the old testament... i think u r the one who needs ti know more abt christianity!

if they dont believe in the old testament why wld they inclide it in their book ???

they suppose that jesus is god and so he is the one speaking in the old testament as well

otherwise they wld have two different gods

nice try

[RebeccaFS1982]

The old testament of the bible is called the Torah and the Tanach. The Torah (first 5 books)is the law. The Tanach is stories of the prophets, prophecies of the messiah and stories of the different kings and different psalms. The new testament is about the messiah and what is going to happen at his returning. The Tanach doesn't have any laws or ways of life we are to adhere by only the Torah. The Tanach has alot of stories about evil kings and people and we aren't supposed to live by that.

[RebeccaFS1982]

Do you understand now what I meant? The new testament, called Brit Chadasha, included the teaching and ways of the messiah. Thats what christians and messianics go by. The 10 commandements is in the Brit Chadasha. The Torah has 613 laws, if the people could have kept those laws they wouldn't have needed a messiah. G-d doesn't change, people change. Also I'd like to add that you used a catholic enyclopedia. Nothing catholics use is biblical. Not a good source, that's why you got his age wrong.

[0oshi]

the age is not only in the catholic sources i also read it in orthodox sources and if u have other sources that are more "biblical" then bring them

[0oshi]

the strabge thing is that the bible mentions the evil things this man did and not in a single verse said that among these things is that he married at a young age !!!

never what?? who ordered his ppl to kill the children then if not jesus ??? isnt he the same god of the old testament???

[RebeccaFS1982]

True. I don't understand why he is using Ahaz as an example to compare Mohammad to. If they honor Mohammad so much, why compare him to someone who was considered a scumbag? He got the age wrong too, Ahaz was almost 13 when his son was born. He's trying to justify Mohammad having sexual relations with a child by using an evil despicable unholy man getting married. All i can say is, atleast Ahaz had a child out of having sex at a young age, he didn't just do it for sexual pleasure.

[0oshi]

im not comparing Ahaz to my prophet but im just wondering why ur god never condemned that kind of marriage??????

and if u have read the description well u wld hae known that im proving that ppl used to marry at young age in the past and it was a normal thing at that time

its not a comparison at all!

[ABAisSCIENCE]

My great grandfather left the house at twelve to seek his fortune so I guess times were different then.

[irenalb]

well done ! and funny too at the end....

[RebeccaFS1982]

He got the age wrong though. Also some music would have been nice in the background, even if it were islamic.

[cahid24]

good job

[cakalamed]

biutifull and super 5*****