Ex-SAS man's anger at government 'dishonesty' on Afghanistan

[sthnwatch]

Too true. This leads straight to the fact that our armed services aren't fighting these wars to defend our freedoms but to make the few "elite" people, that have them tricked, just that much more wealthy. That's what they're fighting for! To keep the fat cats high up in their ivory towers well fed. Our troops are not fighting to defend us but they think they are.

"Take heed that no man deceives you..." JESUS CHRIST

[simyan2012]

@sthnwatch i should think most of the special forces guys know exactly why they are there it's referred to as ''protecting British interests abroad''

[sthnwatch]

@simyan2012 and therein lies the deception... Yes they're protecting interests but no necessarily British. Some of it is British but some of it is more unidentified, cloaked in secrecy, hidden in the shadows, undisclosed, and even "occult-ish".

[theoutremerlibrary]

Supporting OUR armed forces means NOT being stupid. They are our sons and daughters being MADE to KILL and be KILLED ! What a 'nation' of bloody cowards with a precious few who have any guts to speak up. Do some REAL homework and see who did 9/11 , 7/7 and the other F/Flag attacks, and weep !

[Eddieee82]

Brain Dead killing machines?

[FrancoHitlini]

@Eddieee82 You would never get into the SAS if you were "brain dead"!

[22grena]

@FrancoHitlini Why, do you think you need a Phd to kill.

[FrancoHitlini]

@22grena ? another retarded comment, something you're good at. Your comments demonstrate a high degree of ignorance and I am not about to entertain a brick by trying to educate it. Goodbye!

[22grena]

@FrancoHitlini Who give a toss if you care or not, Goodbye? Fuck off I say

[gav44]

@Eddieee82 You idiot!

[Eddieee82]

@gav44 sorry if i came across as an idiot but i really think the armed solders would speak up and stand up for whats right ...after all your are ready to put your lifes on the line!! your pride should come from defend your country and not just following oders for money! I've got alot of respect for Ben Griffin EXSAS and i know they are many more like him out there who want Peace and Justice and no more lies

[gav44]

@Eddieee82 I'm sorry if I gave you the wrong impression. I am not in the armed forces. Having said that, I will support them in everything they do. They do a job and they do it brilliantly. They don't make policy, just put their lives on the line so we can be safe.

[Photonzos]

Who cares who wins!

wars started primarily for the interest of the arms industry don't get public support. surprise surprise.

Amounts of tax paying for it that make the bankers fiasco look trivial.

[PICLex]

Their falling into the trap of the yanks, that is, the armed forces have become just a political tool. Time to sort it out, and get rid of the little shits in power. Jack straw is one example.

[TotaIChaos]

@MrAcdcefg what happen in 1981 then. enlighten me

[TotaIChaos]

@MrAcdcefg wow, no it wasn't it was made by sir David Stirling. in 1941 1st of july. you idiot. ever head of 1980 Iranian Embassy. so don't say "accualy" and spell it wrong. you retard lol!

[jakers818833]

2 everyone who as commented on this page,stick to licking balls ya bunch of shit denters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!

[edwardkent]

the wiki leaks reported that the americans thought the british were useless....you gotta be honest, with clowns like this, in the higher eschelons of the british military, they've certainly got a point.........................­..

[vatoencabronado]

@edwardkent Yeah, clowns that can think for themselves, and have a problem with them and their friends being sent to war on false premises, and without the proper support.... those guys suck.

[JayN666]

@edwardkent If the British were useless then would they be fighting in Helmand and Sangin province, where the bulk of the fighting happens?

[edwardkent]

@JayN666 ...grow up jay, and stop believing everything you read in the sun....btw, if you want to know how useless the top brass in the army are,,,,,when i was a soldier the highest ranking officer was and probably still is...prince philip..lol...and don't try and tell me his grandsons are bright, for fucks sake..lol

[TotaIChaos]

@edwardkent say that the British army is useless to someone in the SAS.

[edwardkent]

@TotaIChaos ......you mean say it to myself ? fair enoughy

[TotaIChaos]

@edwardkent call of duty doesnt count. number one you don't say your in the SAS on the internet and if you are in the SAS what happen in 1980. who made the SAS and when was it created

[edwardkent]

@TotaIChaos ..shocker, you really got me chaos, your the man, done me up like a kipper..but,.i'll tell you what did happen in 1980, i joined the british army, my number was 245#####,,whoa steady eddy, not to much info there....the sas wasn't made? btw..it was created,,,by some big wigs in the military after seeing how succesful the german paratroopers were early in ww2....hey, have you ever seen a fanny dance...lol

[TotaIChaos]

@edwardkent SAS was created by one man and his name was David Stirlling. the only one guy who agreed with him was Winston Churchill. there first mission was in Africa and it was formed in 1941 1st of july

[smoochym]

@edwardkent I suppose David Sterling was just another rupert as well was he?

[edwardkent]

@smoochym .....sir archibald (david) sterling you mean...who was born a lord and his dad was a brigadier general...sounds like a rupert to me ?...next you'll be wanting me to believe that douglas bader lost his legs when he was working down ta' pit hacking at coal on his knees in south yorkshire and most of his sentences ended with ee by gum....lol

[KhemAndKurami]

@edwardkent Dude go back to playing COD and stop fooling around...

[edwardkent]

@JayN666 ...and the british forces have achieved..exactly what in helmand and sangin smarty pants.....sweet fanny adams/ zilcho/nowt....the british military is 30 years behind the modern world in military terms, due to the useless officers like aldwin wright(i'm sure he went to the right school though)..lol

[lesdoyle2000]

NATO alliance is failing to win over Afghan civilians

75% of Afghans believe foreigners disrespect their religion and traditions;

74% think working for foreign forces is wrong;

68% believe NATO will not protect them

65% think Taliban leader Mullah Muhammad Omar should be part of the government

[TheJago117]

@lesdoyle2000 sounds good..

[lesdoyle2000]

1919 Afghan Independence from Brit

1979 Jul 3 - 1992 CIA operation Cyclone to destabilise the Afghan Government.

1979 Dec - 1988 Afghan-USSR war

1986–1992 CIA trained future Taliban and Al-Qaeda leaders at a CIA camp in Virginia.

British SAS trained them at bomb making

CIA, SAS and ISI supported the rise of the Taliban

1991 CIA looses support of Osama Bin Laden when America puts troops into Saudi Arabia

1996 Taliban take control of Afghanistan

2001 The Talibans biggest benefactor was US

[10footmonkey]

even the man on the street can spot that, yes, i certainly have among many others but people dont seem to care unless its on their doorstep...

or affecting them directly.

yes money is the reason but it still stuns me that our leaders are fussing soo much about monetary gain and just getting more resources for their pointless disposel and they are risking our lives and paying us fuck all! the people are the blood and bones of this country n the leaders are few... yet they still bully us basicly

[dmsnsa6679]

here here

[chezdez102]

@slanker786 Really so you think the SAS isnt the best fighting ground force in the world?

the izzedin al qassam ive never heard of. However the SAS ARE the best S.F force in the world all other forces in the world are based on them from the training and selection to the equipment they use

[a111poker]

@slanker786 They sound like a bunch of terrorists....

[td90uk]

@slanker786 Oh, you mean Hamas' military wing? I think you'll find that the SAS invented Special Forces. They are not over-rated, they are the elite of the elite. izzedin al qassam probably do excellent work, I do not doubt that, but the SAS formed Special Forces and have performed some spectacular missions, some rarely even heard about by the public.

[Spark280]

@td90uk very true!

[RoyMM46]

@slanker786 How about this 1 then......fuck you and your ridiculous comments...they sound like a bunch of towel heads..stick to digging oil camel jockey

[Tockers84]

What's with the fucking Gillete ad.

[itsDOWNIE]

@Tockers84 To put it simple: money.

[wasabimanic]

what you defending the fuckin liebore party twat. that sent troops out there having to buy some of their kit whilst fuckin MPs filled in expense forms get fuckin real. Typical fuckin liebore shit.

[edwardkent]

wake up baldy and stop banging your conservative party drum

[edwardkent]

i'm a soldier and here's a comment.......this is a typical thick rupert....british army officers are like light houses in the desert,,,bright,,,but fucking useless

[CHANNELOMD]

ha ha well said

[epicshootout]

@edwardkent  u R fucking stupid do you know what the SAS and Royal Marines have to go to

1 I bet U R not even a soldier.

2 If you are realy a soldier I bet you are one of those dipshits that frendly fires.

3You clearly dont know anythink but shit thats wye whatever comes out your ass comes out your mouth to aca SHIT.

[edwardkent]

and our troops out in stani land can't beat a bunch of nomads running round in sandals,smoking cigars,,,,don't blame the government,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ou­r boys havn't got the right boots,or gloves .or the right body armour,,or the right tanks or enough helicopters,or enough missiles,or enough jet fighters blowing the fuck out of everything,,,maybe our army is just useless,,,when the other side hasn't got any of these things.......makes you wonder............

[CHANNELOMD]

absolutely spot on,how many do they need six fucking million

[commensence1]

@edwardkent you sir are a tit!!!!!!!!!!

[vietnamjazz]

That's great

[newsfarsi]

same as me