Its more than taboo its an agenda. Someone doesn't want people to believe in the Paranormal. I have two theories for why they do that. One is religious fanaticism. Jews Christians and Muslims consider the paranormal to be evil and must be suppressed. The other theory is most of the worlds elite are occultists. Masons Nazis Illuminati etc. All these people believe in the occult and want to keep this info for themselves and keep the masses ignorant. Than its easier to enslave them
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"and yet fewer than one percent of mainstream academic institutions have any faculty known for their interest in these frequently reported experiences."
Well, even more people believe in various religions, and they HAVE faculties for studying it. Even with academics institutions studying it, they STILL cannot prove or document anything.
Alien abductions are also "frequently reported experiences". Do you want academic institutions established to study that too? Anecdotal evidence bores me.
I challange you all to try the José Silva Ultramind ESP course and tell me this is NOT a piece of our nature :-) (If in Norway I will give it for free too those whom is not convinced)
PS. Try your kids with cards etc and take notes of results, you will be amazed!
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Thank you for this guy! This should be more than enough to encourage education in this area. There are too many skeptics. With skepticism we will not be able to improve and learn as a race.
@DavidZimbeck If skepticism didn't exist, we would all live in the dark ages believing in non-existent concepts or simply BS
On the contrary to your belief, skepticism is healthy because it helps us keep away from delusions and it also helps us find the truth, if not, close to it. Now the type of skepticism we usually see such as ridicule, prejudices, and distortions is not genuine skepticism, its pseudo-skepticism.
One thing is to critique, rejecting out of hand is a different matter....
@IceAges14Aces Thanks for correcting. I should have said "with skepticism on the level that it is today". I think our society should be more open minded. Perhaps in 100 years society will feel like today was a dark age. I think open discussion is good but too many cooks spoil the soup. Lots of "pseudo-skpeticism" or even worse the media and how they depict others using name-calling etc. Besides, at some juncture I believe people will always have to make some sort of leap of "faith" if you will.
@IceAges14Aces What worries me even more is how information is being more controlled and that we may lose touch with the creativity that inspired this type of development in the first place. People need to think outside the box in order to make the progress beyond this point. Combing science and "spirituality" or whatever word you use for it is definitely an awesome idea. After all, humans are very limited as far as sense of sight, smell, hearing. Certain animals outclass us in sensory ways.
I testify that I have the ability of precognition. I don't always have just a feeling. At times I see future events unfold in my mind like a memory which had already happened to me. It always happens just before some terrible event is to occur. It has saved my life several times and also caused me great distress. Just before the event of 9/11 I got deathly sick, I believe it was around 8:30am. A severe feeling of nausea overcame me. Throwing up didn't give me relief so I went home from work.
I want to start of by saying, I'm a carpenter, I don't have a huge IQ and have to struggle to follow when he talks about this with as long words that he is. but what I can say, is that I have peronally experienced psi and have practived it mainly to keep myself warm, and to close small open wounds which is very handy for my profession. So in my opinion, psi is very real and should be taken more seriously
@MaggogZ ESP is an abbreviation for Extra-Sensory Perception. ESP is slowly becoming accepted and supported in the scientific community. You should look at Michael Persinger's peer-reviewed studies in parapsychology (worth looking at)
Of course psi exists – that’s been known since, and likely, before recorded history. But, alas, nobody’s perfect at it – and it’s limited. I used to think my own experiences were due to unconsciously picking up subliminal hints, so I learned to trust my intuition. But the blind-randomness of the experiments prove there is something weirder going on. The “taboo” exists because of the unreasonably “implied” relationship with the fakers, charlatans, and soft minded who believe anything.
That opening story is so sad. At 32.02 there seems to be a precognitive response in the receiver also. At 1.28 Dean Radin could have used John Cramer's "Transactional Interpretation" of quantum mechanics to explain free-will as a phenomena where sentient beings who posses free-will have access to the future & past through the small non-linearities in QM & perhaps that is the purpose of dreaming also; to access/influence the non-local realm through the potential wave-function of the sleeping body
@ThisOneIsTaken That's a very good question for the micro-telekinetic experiments, but the answer is no (well at least highly unlikely)
What's being measured is the variance of randomly produced 1's and 0's which is sampled from either electronic noise or radioactive decay, so due to this sampling method, it is very difficult to conceive of something (let's say an electromagnetic storm) that could influence both the electronic component and the sampling outcomes....
My deep desire for all those doing work in "Psi" research ... is to focus on where you want to go ... what you want to learn ... what you wish to consciously repliocate ... and ignor the nay sayers. Let them stay where they are at.
You want to talk to some former KGB operatives, they spent years developing stuff that americans tried to copy. It is possible to develop psychic abilities, if you believe you can. Which brings us to the nature of the wider universe whatever you believe the universe will accomodate your beliefs.
I would hand each of the 12 participants an empty marked envelope then give them an remote viewed picture that they themselves selected and put into the envelope. 12 remote viewed targets = 3-5 targets a day that'll only take 3 days to prove it to them.
Yes I agree creativity is needed, oh look "Psi" is higher than genius?!
Yeah I can agree with that, "Psi" knows things I am not even aware of.
Hearing this makes me have less faith in "Science" as even with proven results the scientist seem to want to sabotage these findings and results. 25:28 even with a proven research hit rate of 60 - 70% in telepathy?!
Non local interactions exists in quantum physics even though we do not fully understand them, yet we've use this phenomenal in quantum computing. All this is unthinkable in the past. There're too many close minded academics defending their comfort zone even in this modern era.
@meltingEyeballs Bullshit brah science moves on pushing the envelope those academics really truly did what you say they do, they would be out of a job.
All these precognition tests show are that our consciousness has a time lag in registering physical reality. Although it appears that the computer program is going to show a picture in t seconds, in physical reality the program has been designed to show the image in t minus the consciousness time lag. What these experiments show are that our nervous system registers the stimuli before our consciousness does – that is all.
While the evidence of psychic phenomena from many double-blind, rigorously controlled experiments accumulated with data-collection is overwhelming, there will always be people (including scientists) that will start a knee-jerk reaction when it comes to subjects like these, regardless of the evidence. These people won't ever let the status-quo be challenged and the way they do it is by ridicule and the use of rhetorical arguments. Sadly, Carl Sagan is rolling in his grave because of this bigotry.
This guy is dumb. He is trying to make scientists look dumb. scientists don't look at a radio and think Led Zeppelin is inside it. Science created the radio. and i know it is supposed to be a metaphor, but that is what psi is, not science. psi looks at tings and assumes the insane without looking for a logical, explainable, non stupid answer.
@pyromonkey8 "psi looks at tings and assumes the insane without looking for a logical, explainable, non stupid answer."
It's quite sad how you believe in that ridiculously prejudiced caricature of the truth, "Psi Assumption" when it is a bunch of rhetorical bullshit. If you had any first hand of knowledge of parapsychological experiments, especially the Ganzfeld, you would realize just how profoundly ignorant and bigoted that bullshit psi assumption is.....
@bloodygamer2143 "Bull-fucking shit!!!! There is no evidence of psychic abilities especially telepathy,...."
There's no evidence?????? Jesus Christ just how arrogant & dumbwitted can people like you possibly be???
For your information, there already is strong, independent replicable evidence of psi not from anecdotes nor famous psychics, but under double-blind, rigorously controlled experiments published in peer-reviewed journals.
@pyromonkey8 Scientists are fucken dumb! I will put up a Psi challenge in remote viewing to their best scientist out there, hands down I will clown their Ivy league asses easy.
Yes Scientist are that insane, they will always want to destroy dismantle break it just to examine the inner workings of it in their "mad scientist" sense of "greater good", classic example is Einstein's Brain! Einstein NEVER signed anything but still they chopped his brain up and what did they learn? nothing!
This is silly. his proof that psi exists is by saying " there is proof" , " there are results". But he doesn't go any deeper than that to prove what he is saying. He says there is a Taboo. It isn't a taboo. It just isn't worth looking at because it doesn't exist. OOOOOOOo, one woman had a crazy experience...this was the day that her son died. She probably had a really bad headache, and afterwards, she kept thinking about her son dying and put the two together.
@pyromonkey8 "This is silly. his proof that psi exists is by saying " there is proof"
Quite intellectually lazy and quite frankly imprudent of you for saying such an ignoramus and bigoted thing. Have you even listen to his whole lecture? I'm assuming you haven't.....
"It just isn't worth looking at because it doesn't exist."
Doesn't exist? Have you even bother to look at these studies? I'm assuming you also haven't...
@IceAges14Aces Why do you believe in psychic phenomena? Dean Radin is a fucking idiot! He thinks he scientifically prove psychic phenomena with his studies when his studies are flawed. How the hell did he got 29 million trillion to one with 3,145 sessions with 88 experiments and say its evidence of telepathy? Talk about pseudo-science and ignorance in mathematics...
Psychic phenomena doesn't exist its a bunch of mystical mumbo-jumbo bullcrap....
@deadmau5321 "How the hell did he got 29 million trillion to one with 3,145 sessions with 88 experiments and say its evidence of telepathy? Talk about pseudo-science and ignorance in mathematics..."
The irony with this is that you're the one whose actually ignorant in scientific methodology/statistics. The actual probability of getting 1,008 hits from 3,145 ganzfeld sessions in a two-tailed t-test is P<0.000000001, which is extremely strong evidence in conventional, scientific criteria..
@deadmau5321 "Why do you believe in psychic phenomena?"
I don't believe, I only accept things with "empirical evidence" accumulated with data-collection and always open to the possibility of falsification. The Ganzfeld, DMILS, etc. peer-reviewed studies are one of the reasons why I said parapsychological research warrants further research.
"Psychic phenomena doesn't exist its a bunch of mystical mumbo-jumbo bullcrap.... "
Idiot? Really? That's all you have to tell me instead of backing yourself up via evidence? How idiotic of you....
"1,008 hits from 3,145 is not evidence of psychic or telepathy whatsoever"
Are you serious? 1,008 hits from 3,145 ganzfeld is not evidence of telepathy? My god just how stupid can these pseudo-skeptics get? Wrong, it is evidence. Go guess 3,145 times with a 1/4 probability of hit without cheating and I promise you, you'll never get it.....
I once watched a documentary film on a group of Tibetan monks who were able to raise the temperature of their bodies to boil water. Something that is by modern scientific standards is impossible, to raise your body temp. at will to such a temp seems unlikely but for this group was more then possible, but was part of their initiation. They would put ice cold blankets on themselves and were expected to make them dry in 10 minutes.
In regards to there being no conspiracy against the research into psi. Why did u.s military hire Reich to build the Organon then to revitalize the Tucson Desert? Why is there TONS of data and court papers proving that he and many others were assailed, threatened, jailed and defamed due to the progress towards showing the world Orgone energy?
Those who doubt the nature of psi should explore the methods of feeling it first. That would be more scientific. Also, a person who can control psi, while not being able to necessarily perform tk or shoot lightning from their fingertips can still do wild stuff, like manipulate their levels on an eeg, raise and lower their skin conductance level on a dime. Can any of you do this? What about immunity and health? Ive gone 8 years without being sick due to constant work with psi.
@SunnyNinanna It's not that you're stupid, it's possibly because you don't understand the concepts (especially statistics) that are implied in this lecture...
And the unqualified puplic gets told so many stories (by scientists in the media) they they can basically think whatever they want. Although a huge majority of scientist agree upon a subject (Like the climate change). You people just gotta realise that Radin is a controversial figure. You should look up not only why he's right but also why his studies are flawed.
Guys like Radin are a huge Problem nowadays. People like him make the public stupid. And that's because people think that this guy is qualified only because he has some master degree and the don't realise that he talks about stuff that goes beyond his qualifications. It's like in the climate debate. The media shows a single guy on tv and acts like this one person represents the consensus in the scientific community.
@OccasionallyBearded yes, actually i do...i think he bends all facts they way he wants them to be...just like in one of his books "the concsous universe" ...he's right that psi research is some kind of taboo in science, but there are reasons for that...too many frauds and manipulated studies...and of course no evidence so far...especially not in double blind studies
@stauffap I could not disagree more strongly. IME and IMO, many of the alleged "flaws" are based on skeptics themselves doing the twisting (which is NOT to say that there are no flawed studies -- certainly there are, I admit). And there ARE successful blind/double/triple blind blind studies (goign as far back as the SPR investigations with Leonora Piper). You and I have wildly different views on Dean Radin. He admits mistakes and accepts constructive criticisms.
@OccasionallyBearded well, the leonora piper "studies" were before 1950....i serously doubt that they had enough experience with frauds back then(and the tricks people use to make themselves appear supernatural) to make those studies bulletproof. So i can't take that seriously. Show me a more recent study ;)...but even nowadays very few people(also in the scientific world) know how it's possible to fake psi abbilities....i mean they even used to believe uri geller...lol
@stauffap Have you read the original/primary reports on Piper? Some of the investigators were *very* skeptical, had a history of exposing frauds, and went to *absurd* lengths in ruling out fraud. The SPR investigators had uncovered many hundreds of frauds, leading one to say that only 5% of cases were worth looking into. I genuinely intend no offense, but your opinion on the Piper case is worthless if you haven't studied the material. It's a myth that pre-1950 investigators didnt know the tricks
@OccasionallyBearded I've read into it. And can't see that the possibilities of cold reading and other kinds of information gathering(yes, i know about the detectives) was sufficiently ruled out. Hits are always impressive and misses tend to be quickly forgotten. There is no suggestion in the literature available online that this important statistic was calculated or even taken into consideration.
@stauffap Please tell me exactly what you read. Did you read the actual primary/original reports published by the SPR? They published a thousand pages on Piper. Or did you read second-hand accounts? Here's a tidbit: The investigators wanted to know if Piper was faking the trance, so here's what they did: They lit a flame on her skin, they pricked her with needles, they put ammonia under her nostrils, and they stuffed into her mouth spoonfulls of salt, perfume, and laundry detergent.Outofspace :(
@stauffap They read all of her mail. They had private detectives follow her (and when they reported back that Piper had no contacts, a skeptical Hodgson actually *stalked* Piper and stayed by her house in the middle of a terrible winter!). Hodgson once screamed at a sitter for bringing an umbrella inside on a rainy day because he thought it might have hidden info! They had strangers sit in for actual sitters. They often had stenographers write down everything. etc Not enough space for more :(
@OccasionallyBearded I see....you obviously spent a lot of time researching everything that supports your belief, but did you also take the time to research the other side? We can argue here endlessly...it's just a fact that no medium ever passed a serious modern tests. The cold reading skills evolved and are much more subtile than they used to be. So i still can't take a study from before 1950 seriously, since they simply didn't have sufficient knowledge to rule out fraud. Google derren brown
@stauffap Yes, I'm well aware of Darren Brown. Yes, I did study (and continue to study) every perspective. I *am* a skeptic, but I apply skepticism to all perspectives, not just to the paranoral perspective. I can assure you that many of the SPR investigators were experts in fraud. Darren Brown's techniques would have been easily prevented/detected by the SPR investigators. But yes, we should agree to disagree. Peace :)
@stauffap All I can do is encourage you to read as much of the primary literature that you can. The investigators absolutely ruled out cold reading, hot reading, muscle reading, etc. You can find isolated cases where those techniques were *not* ruled out, but there are many cases when they were ruled out. What are your thoughts on the Kakie sittings??
@OccasionallyBearded Cold reading and muscle reading isn't everything you can use. Much more simple is it to talk to the person before such a meeting. Or order someone to gather information for you. That person can then easily deliver that information to you. Maybe mediums exist, who knows? But a 70 year old study won't convince me. Even if that study was true it would be of no significance. What's a medium good for? Give people old, forgotten information. How's that useful?
@stauffap My friend, I Know that cold and muslce readings are not "everything". Hodgson, Lodge, etc. were able to prevent Piper from talking to people before the sittings. And on some occasions, *strangers* would sit in for the actual sitters. Also, they brought Piper to a *different country* to see how she would perform (she did just as well). And as I said, the SPR guys hired private detectives to follow Piper to make sure that she was not getting info from any sources. Plz read the literature
@OccasionallyBearded You certainly know more of the subject than i do. But what about this? phinuit was a french doctor and yet his french vocabulary was limited to "bonjour" and "au revoir" and had little to no knowledge about french medicine. Sounds strange to me, but i'm sure you know more about it ;)
@stauffap Great question! :) Actually, most of the SPR investigators believed that "Phinuit" was a secondary personality created by Piper's subconscious. Piper herself did *not* believe that she was communicating with spirits. She believed that she had a combination of secondary personalities mixed with genuine psi capacities, which together *mimicked* the appearance of postmortem survival. I'm open to that interpretation.
@OccasionallyBearded Well, if i wanted to make someone believe in my abilities, i'd also make up a new explanation for my abilities that doesn't make me look like i'm a fraud ...like not knowing any french while having a french ghost taking over my body in trance
@stauffap Piper obtained very intimate hits under conditions that ruled out fraud, as I've been explaining. Read the Kakie sittings (as 1 example) and then get back to me. And Piper's trance was most likely genuine (recall the lengths to which the investigators went to ensure that). The reason she invoked the secondary personality interpretation is because she was a Christian who believed that "spiritual things are unseen". I'm sorry, but you really don't have an informed opinion on Piper.
@stauffap At this point, I don't feel that I have anything helpful to add. If you have any questions about the Piper work, feel free to ask. Otherwise, I don't think I'll say anything else. Feel free to make any last point. Best wishes to you.
@OccasionallyBearded Nope nothing to add. Maybe i'll read into it more extensively in the future. But for now i have nothing more to say. Nice conversation though.
@OccasionallyBearded Well, uri geller was just an example to show you that they still don't know the tricks the frauds use. Regarding the conscious universe: Go to google and type in "dean radin scepticreport". It's an interesting review of the book.
Additionally, the point is not whether or not PSI phenomena exist or not, it's the incredible lack of funding and interest despite so much evidence. Consciousness, and its effects, are the most poorly understood aspect of reality. And research that goes towards furthering understanding of it is quite beneficial imo.
This all imo falls under the scientific study of consciousness. Consciousness is THE LEAST understood aspect of reality we've ever come across. It may even be its own fundamental Force.
By his desperate attempts to use Quantuum physics to explain the existance of PSI phenomenons, one can just see how much his studies are guided and unconsciously manipulated by his wishful thinking. His entanglement hypothesis are simply not true from a quantuum physics point of view. He's mistunderstanding Quantuum Physics.
How is that eastern stuff supposed to be science? It's just speculation. How did they benefit from their "brain doesn't equal mind" attitude? ....And PSI phenomenon have been studied. Especially during the cold war and obviously nothing usefull has been discovered....Another thing is that this guy interpretates Quantuum physics in a wrong way. He simply doesn't understand Quantuum physics. Quite understandable since it wasn't what he studied. He studied elecrtical engineering.
@ShiroRX ...well, quantuum physics is part of my study path. He has a master's degree in electrical engeneering and educational psychology. And he's not really world renowned, especially not in the field of quantuum physics. It's really not a subject that he's qualified in. That he wrote some books and is the president of the parapsychological association doesn't make him qualified either.
Western 'science' was and still is defined by its rejection of irrationality. That has, somehow, made it another ideology that needs to be torn down and dismantled since it has become a substitution to religious ideology.
Science is a tool not an ideology. People, however, like religious folks do, tend to be stuck up and unwilling to let go of what they believe to be the only way to think or understand reality.
A 'scientific thinking' that is closed minded is the same as religious dogma.
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One can be atheist and non-materialist at the same time. There is a significant body of evidence that suggests the materialist paradigm represents an incomplete understanding of reality. That there is a God or even afterlife is certainly not suggested by the data. Naturally, the 'fundematerialists' who treat materialism like a religious fundamentalist treats his religion, would deny this body of evidence in the same way a creationist denies evidence for evolution.
@GermanOperaSinger "a significant body of evidence that suggests the materialist paradigm represents an incomplete understanding of reality." This would imply the discovery of something that is non-material that exists. Where is amazing this discovery? Just because we do not understand everything does not support the concept of "non-material".
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@morph995 P.S. I think it's reasonable for somebody to infer God's existence on the basis of some NDEs and some cases of mediumship. But Dean Radin didn't get into those areas of research in this video. And IMO, the best NDE cases are nowhere near as impressive as the best medium cases, and the best medium cases are (to a degree) capable of being interpreted as cases of "super-psi" (a term I've grown to hate). Anyway, I repeat, Dean Radin didnot offer anything for an afterlife or God here. Peace
@OccasionallyBearded You make an excellent point, and I think the flak parapsychology often receives from mainstream science is at least somewhat a result of the diminished respect for religion in academia and their incorrect association of grouping everything 'paranormal' into that general category. Also, the fact that 98% of the literature on the paranormal is New Age, pseudoscientific nonsense, makes the small percentage that is rigorously and scientifically studied unjustly lose credibility.
@GermanOperaSinger It is my understanding that many materialist philosophers bluntly dismiss psi research as "nonsense" and "pseudoscience" without looking into the evidence... much as you have done with New Age beliefs.
Be careful of bluntly dismissing anything; the New Age people have been right on many counts. There really is very little pseudoscience out there. Yes, certain things like Zero Point wands are fake (I have researched them), but I never dismiss a claim before looking into it.
@OccasionallyBearded Ian Stevenson's research is quite interesting as well, whilst not conclusive at all, it does point to something interesting going on
@morph995 Respectfully, I must insist that you're wrong on this point. The "a" in atheism means "without". So the word literally means "without theism". But you don't have to believe in God to believe in an afterlife (look at Buddhists for example). Secondly, there is nothing in this video that directly suggests an afterlife. And for the record, Dean Radin has recently said that he is "not yet" convinced that there even is an afterlife.
@morph995 How does this prove god is real and what does atheism have to do with this? Just because psi phenomena: Telepathy, Telekinesis, etc. has been moved from the realm of nonsense to ok it may be real doesn't mean other paranormal or supernatural phenomena may exist. Whether it's ghosts, bigfoot, etc. it's irrelevant.....
@morph995 On the contrary, this is tangible scientific evidence. Atheists love tangible scientific evidence. It is religious idiots who will eventually become enraged by the advancements of this field of science, as it DOES NOT prove God is real AT ALL.
the day we know exactly what consciousness is, how exactly it fits into and operates in our reality will probably be the day everyone stops looking for reasons to discredit what is obviously something that is not yet understood, it's simply "knowledge acquisition in progress" it is just a little disturbing to see people attempt to paint this man into a corner....although it does I'm sure keep him on his toes.
Was considering giving this thumbs down, just to prove his point about the taboo part - but i see a lot of people beat me to it, so i'll give it thumbs up :D
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Radin is a great scientist. I enjoyed this video. I have several videos up (more are coming) of myself testing the psychic abilities within my younger brother. These are on my channel if anyone would like to investigate. I am a hypnotist by hobby and I have used hypnotism to develop mediumship within several clients. Isaac, being so young, yet sincere, was the perfect subject. He made a variety of claims, all of which seem to be validated by my testing. Investigate for yourself. Thank you.
There is no conspiracy against views like this. There is simply an institution that doesnt believe in it. A large number of great discoveries in science have been rejected by the mainstream scientific community at first - even einstein rejected his own discoveries about quantum physics that have been proven true. The scientific community is made up of people, and people are inheritly biased
@scottdjp i think many scientists get scared of the idea of an immaterial reality because they think it makes what they do pointless. Which seems a little foolish imo.
@ShiroRX That's not true...quantuum physics is all about the immaterial...that's what we learn from quantuum physics, that we gotta stop thinking in those kind of patterns...there's no such thing as logic or material...there's just data or information...and the job of the scientist is to find a theory that works for all the data
I was actually going to watch this whole thing, but if you start your argument by saying there is a conspiracy against his view, I just get pissed off. This is the most basic classic defence of people who have views they cannot demonstrate. If the thing you talk off is true, then show the world it is. Publish a study. I reject the supernatural because every single study I have seen has methodology flaws, and have not demonstrated the supernatural. It may exist, but so far it has not been proven
I have looked closely into the experiments, and there is serious flaws in the evidence. The ganzfield experiment is a perfect example. Saying you are blocking auditory signals by playing white noise is silly. The person is still hearing a sound. Also, the pictures may be very vague and the results can be interpreted many ways.
Also, his first example is an anecdote. Means nothing.
And, personal experience is problematic.
The fact mainstream science is dismissive is simply a lack of proof
forgive me for the things i am not willing to belive because I have no explaination... Thats the kind of people he is dealing with during his presentation. We all have precognition instinct but much like quantum physics you can't yield an explaination. Higgs Field, M thoery, Sting Theory. When man can't explain things they become dismissive of what they observe. its a matter of believing the unbelivable, man does it all the time, its called religion.
I know for a fact that mysticism is still practice even in this era. It is deep sin to delve into this art and to apply them is even greater sin... I'm not talking about lucid dreaming or clairvoyance. It is essential to stop people using this psi before things get out of hand.
@EternalRecursion for me sin is when you inflict to someone pain or suffering. Psi allows the possibility to hurt someone without people's knowledge. Learning it is fine but it is still dangerous.
@revolutionaryjake Taking your definition of sin, I must say that it is my observation that humans are a sinful lot. It is also my experience that the exploration and cultivation of psi capabilities is neutral in regards to a person's tendencies to sin. It seems that very few people transcend the ego drive to be dominant, to be important, but I think as many have benevolent intent as have malevolent purpose. Of course, "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions."
@revolutionaryjake How is union with God (mysticism) a sin? The ones who pass beyond the veil are the psychic, the mystic, and the occultist; The rest of the world lives in illusion. Many prophets in the bible practiced things we would today consider occultish, but you have to pay attention to the wording to see it. ECCLESIASTES 12: 6 says to "remember your creator before the silver cord snaps," and the silver cord is what connects your physical and etheric bodies during astral projection.
It's really sad how people, including scientists, tend to criticize and put down anything that contradicts their well-accepted scientific ideas without even bothering to investigate it. Even the well-respected scientists, like Einstein, Newton, Charles Darwin, etc have all been mocked, ridiculed, and strongly criticized all because their theories or research contradicts well-accepted scientific ideas. Now they are putting this crap on Dean Radin? We really do need open minded people, honestly.
@angelsssssssssssss But if someone comes up with an idea the contradicts firmly established science, they need to present a good argument, and have evidence. I have read some of the 'experiments' done and they simply do not demonstrate the paranormal at all.
Science by definition is an open enterprise, but if you want to be heard bring the evidence, that can be verified & can be repeated by some else.
im so bored of hearing the idea there is a conspiracy against paranormal claims.
@markgg1 I strongly agree that if someone comes up with a claim that contradicts firmly established science, that person needs to provide replicable evidence from blind, controlled experiments or otherwise that person won't be taken seriously. On the other hand, rejecting it out of hand just because it defies scientific knowledge is outright misleading. Science, by its nature, is a systematic, tentative process of testing hypotheses facilitated by data collection.
@IceAges14Aces But no one rejects it out of hand,.. no scientific thinking person has ever done that. They say 'interesting idea, can you prove it' - if they can, then it becomes science. Anything that exists within our universe, is natural... all because you can use a word trick and call something 'supernatural' doesn't mean this thing exists. If the paranormal was demonstrated, it would be a part of the natural world as it would have a process, and thus be called 'natural phenomenon'
@markgg1 I don't really believe in "proofs" in science because if you look at the history of science, you can see that many well-accepted scientific concepts, such as Newton's Corpuscular Theory of Light, have been rejected or modified. Another reason why I don't believe is because hypotheses, as well as theories, are tentative and never proven. Of course there are empirical evidence for it, but empirical evidence isn't absolute proof because you would have to test every aspect of it.
@IceAges14Aces Also, homeopathy is another example. It is called Alternative medicine, because it doesnt work. If homeopathy worked, it would just be called 'medicine'. This such basic logic seems to escape people. People love playing with semantics. All because there is a word that means opposite of something, e.e. supernatural, or alternative medicine, it doesnt mean we take it seriously.
It depresses me people believe this magical rubbish when the reality of our existence is so stunning.
@markgg1 I don't know much about homeopathy and I'm not really into it, but I agree that homeopathy is useless. The only way homeopathy would become accepted in the scientific community is if the effect can be replicable under double-blind, controlled experiments from many studies and published in a peer-review journal.
I agree that we shouldn't take supernatural claims seriously, but if there is valid scientific evidence of it, then we should take it seriously.
@IceAges14Aces Hey, sorry when I say proven, I agree with your definition. I would never claim absolutely certainty as new theories could remove old ones, like the examples you gave. I think we think alike by the sounds of things, and frankly think our way of thinking is probably as closest mapped to reality as is possible. Of course, one can claim this is an opinion, but I disagree. I can prove all of my beliefs using science. These supernatural guys cannot. Thats the difference.
@markgg1 Don't worry about it. A lot of people have misconceptions in science. Anyway, as for the conspiracy you have mentioned here, I certainly think there are taboos in academia. Every education from schools, colleges, and universities are all politically-driven. For example, all the biology teachers from my high school teach students about evolution, but they had never teach them anything about the time of apes to human or how we came to life. Why is that? Oh, that's right, it's a taboo.
@IceAges14Aces They don't teach abiogenesis (how life originated) because nobody knows how it started.
Also the details of ape to human is very limited as well, as very few fossils have been found. In high school they wouldn't go into that sort of detail anyway, as they teach general principles of biology. If you studied evolution at University, you could pick modules on human evolution if you wished.
@markgg1 Well, I'm not going to argue with that taboo thingy anymore. Believe what you want.
Anyway, I have looked at your criticism for the Ganzfeld experiments & unfortunately they are not plausible. As for the blocking auditory signals, of course the receiver will hear white noise, but the white noise blanks out exteriorl noises. The white noise & the red light puts the receiver under sensory deprivation. About a few minutes, the receiver would be in a state known as The Ganzfeld Effect.
@markgg1 "and that proves telepathic powers?" I'm not saying and I will never say that the Ganzfeld experiments prove telepathy exist. As I have said before, I don't believe in scientific proofs because it is always possible that an alternative hypothesis or scientific theory can be rejected or modified by tommorow. However, the ganzfeld meta-analysis which combines the results of studies conducted from 1974-2004, clearly shows something interesting is going on. Was it telepathy? Perhaps.
@markgg1 Good question! The probability of finding an observation at least as extreme that occured in which the null-hypothesis is true is measured as the P-Value. The P-Value (Ex: P=0.4598) tells you what is the probability of getting an observation at least in extreme in which the null-hypothesis is true. Anyway, the probability of getting the overall results in the ganzfeld meta-analysis in which the null-hypothesis is true is less than one in a trillion.
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fuzzynostic 1 week ago
PSI does exist! i have 35 of them in my bike, hahahahahahahahaha cock lovers
fuzzynostic 1 week ago
Its more than taboo its an agenda. Someone doesn't want people to believe in the Paranormal. I have two theories for why they do that. One is religious fanaticism. Jews Christians and Muslims consider the paranormal to be evil and must be suppressed. The other theory is most of the worlds elite are occultists. Masons Nazis Illuminati etc. All these people believe in the occult and want to keep this info for themselves and keep the masses ignorant. Than its easier to enslave them
ReturnofPmtmr 1 week ago
three words
"free your mind"
you guys and gals need to exit you box you call science or at least open the door and let some air in
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pinealgland01 1 month ago
"and yet fewer than one percent of mainstream academic institutions have any faculty known for their interest in these frequently reported experiences."
Well, even more people believe in various religions, and they HAVE faculties for studying it. Even with academics institutions studying it, they STILL cannot prove or document anything.
Alien abductions are also "frequently reported experiences". Do you want academic institutions established to study that too? Anecdotal evidence bores me.
weduku 1 month ago
@weduku "Anecdotal evidence bores me." ...luckily there was none in this lecture.
geromino2007 3 weeks ago
Hello Dean Radin,
i am 12 minutes into this video and it has already impacted me....
The graph is amazing, a brilliant visualization. THANK you so much
Jordainio 1 month ago
I challange you all to try the José Silva Ultramind ESP course and tell me this is NOT a piece of our nature :-) (If in Norway I will give it for free too those whom is not convinced)
PS. Try your kids with cards etc and take notes of results, you will be amazed!
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TrumpetCallofGodLT 2 months ago
Thank you for this guy! This should be more than enough to encourage education in this area. There are too many skeptics. With skepticism we will not be able to improve and learn as a race.
DavidZimbeck 2 months ago
@DavidZimbeck If skepticism didn't exist, we would all live in the dark ages believing in non-existent concepts or simply BS
On the contrary to your belief, skepticism is healthy because it helps us keep away from delusions and it also helps us find the truth, if not, close to it. Now the type of skepticism we usually see such as ridicule, prejudices, and distortions is not genuine skepticism, its pseudo-skepticism.
One thing is to critique, rejecting out of hand is a different matter....
IceAges14Aces 2 months ago
@IceAges14Aces Thanks for correcting. I should have said "with skepticism on the level that it is today". I think our society should be more open minded. Perhaps in 100 years society will feel like today was a dark age. I think open discussion is good but too many cooks spoil the soup. Lots of "pseudo-skpeticism" or even worse the media and how they depict others using name-calling etc. Besides, at some juncture I believe people will always have to make some sort of leap of "faith" if you will.
DavidZimbeck 2 months ago
@IceAges14Aces What worries me even more is how information is being more controlled and that we may lose touch with the creativity that inspired this type of development in the first place. People need to think outside the box in order to make the progress beyond this point. Combing science and "spirituality" or whatever word you use for it is definitely an awesome idea. After all, humans are very limited as far as sense of sight, smell, hearing. Certain animals outclass us in sensory ways.
DavidZimbeck 2 months ago
I testify that I have the ability of precognition. I don't always have just a feeling. At times I see future events unfold in my mind like a memory which had already happened to me. It always happens just before some terrible event is to occur. It has saved my life several times and also caused me great distress. Just before the event of 9/11 I got deathly sick, I believe it was around 8:30am. A severe feeling of nausea overcame me. Throwing up didn't give me relief so I went home from work.
GateMessenger 2 months ago in playlist Nonlocal Consciousness
so if this psi shit works, why don't the gifted remote-view what hedge-fund managers are about to trade & make a consistent killing in the markets?
untestableClaims 2 months ago
I want to start of by saying, I'm a carpenter, I don't have a huge IQ and have to struggle to follow when he talks about this with as long words that he is. but what I can say, is that I have peronally experienced psi and have practived it mainly to keep myself warm, and to close small open wounds which is very handy for my profession. So in my opinion, psi is very real and should be taken more seriously
liambuurns 2 months ago
@MaggogZ ESP is an abbreviation for Extra-Sensory Perception. ESP is slowly becoming accepted and supported in the scientific community. You should look at Michael Persinger's peer-reviewed studies in parapsychology (worth looking at)
IceAges14Aces 3 months ago
ok.... what's esp?
MaggogZ 3 months ago
@MaggogZ oh alright, ok. I got a chill when I saw the response from the pictures test. Something interesting is going on.
MaggogZ 3 months ago
great video and pure value - Excellent!
joyhuntsman86 3 months ago
Of course psi exists – that’s been known since, and likely, before recorded history. But, alas, nobody’s perfect at it – and it’s limited. I used to think my own experiences were due to unconsciously picking up subliminal hints, so I learned to trust my intuition. But the blind-randomness of the experiments prove there is something weirder going on. The “taboo” exists because of the unreasonably “implied” relationship with the fakers, charlatans, and soft minded who believe anything.
lawshorizon 3 months ago
Dumb questions! Sounds like he's talking to high school students. Radin must have a lot of patience!
tapolna 4 months ago 4
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blockthisuser 4 months ago
That opening story is so sad. At 32.02 there seems to be a precognitive response in the receiver also. At 1.28 Dean Radin could have used John Cramer's "Transactional Interpretation" of quantum mechanics to explain free-will as a phenomena where sentient beings who posses free-will have access to the future & past through the small non-linearities in QM & perhaps that is the purpose of dreaming also; to access/influence the non-local realm through the potential wave-function of the sleeping body
Galv140577 4 months ago
earthbounD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nintenbomb 4 months ago
im psycic!
nintenbomb 4 months ago
BLOW IT UP ALREADY!
Freelancerk1bbles 4 months ago
'i do not want to restart my computer...'
newton2013 4 months ago
Could the effect shown in mario kittenis experiment have been caused by line noise artifact?
ThisOneIsTaken 5 months ago
@ThisOneIsTaken That's a very good question for the micro-telekinetic experiments, but the answer is no (well at least highly unlikely)
What's being measured is the variance of randomly produced 1's and 0's which is sampled from either electronic noise or radioactive decay, so due to this sampling method, it is very difficult to conceive of something (let's say an electromagnetic storm) that could influence both the electronic component and the sampling outcomes....
IceAges14Aces 5 months ago
@IceAges14Aces
Actually, I was referring to the telepathy experiment performed by Mario Kittenis: the EEG could have been influenced by the light, for example.
I don't know much about the subject to be honest.
ThisOneIsTaken 5 months ago
My deep desire for all those doing work in "Psi" research ... is to focus on where you want to go ... what you want to learn ... what you wish to consciously repliocate ... and ignor the nay sayers. Let them stay where they are at.
LawrenceJCarson 5 months ago
You want to talk to some former KGB operatives, they spent years developing stuff that americans tried to copy. It is possible to develop psychic abilities, if you believe you can. Which brings us to the nature of the wider universe whatever you believe the universe will accomodate your beliefs.
TheOcturine 5 months ago
i watch this when i cant fall asleep. after 10 minutes i knock out!
Cartoon2013 5 months ago
I would hand each of the 12 participants an empty marked envelope then give them an remote viewed picture that they themselves selected and put into the envelope. 12 remote viewed targets = 3-5 targets a day that'll only take 3 days to prove it to them.
Wolfsbane909 5 months ago
3% academics is interested in PSI? only 3%?
Yes I agree creativity is needed, oh look "Psi" is higher than genius?!
Yeah I can agree with that, "Psi" knows things I am not even aware of.
Hearing this makes me have less faith in "Science" as even with proven results the scientist seem to want to sabotage these findings and results. 25:28 even with a proven research hit rate of 60 - 70% in telepathy?!
Wolfsbane909 5 months ago
Non local interactions exists in quantum physics even though we do not fully understand them, yet we've use this phenomenal in quantum computing. All this is unthinkable in the past. There're too many close minded academics defending their comfort zone even in this modern era.
meltingEyeballs 5 months ago 22
@meltingEyeballs Bullshit brah science moves on pushing the envelope those academics really truly did what you say they do, they would be out of a job.
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meltingEyeballs 5 months ago
All these precognition tests show are that our consciousness has a time lag in registering physical reality. Although it appears that the computer program is going to show a picture in t seconds, in physical reality the program has been designed to show the image in t minus the consciousness time lag. What these experiments show are that our nervous system registers the stimuli before our consciousness does – that is all.
h13000 6 months ago
@h13000 Those presentiment meta-studies also clearly show that our understanding of the universe especially time is incomplete...
IceAges14Aces 6 months ago
Were is the test on heart attack survivors without aspirin.There has to be a control group. Do you even know anything about science?
pyromonkey8 6 months ago
the guy uses two similar graphs and has psi and religious epiphany in the same area...need I say more
pyromonkey8 6 months ago
While the evidence of psychic phenomena from many double-blind, rigorously controlled experiments accumulated with data-collection is overwhelming, there will always be people (including scientists) that will start a knee-jerk reaction when it comes to subjects like these, regardless of the evidence. These people won't ever let the status-quo be challenged and the way they do it is by ridicule and the use of rhetorical arguments. Sadly, Carl Sagan is rolling in his grave because of this bigotry.
IceAges14Aces 6 months ago
This guy is dumb. He is trying to make scientists look dumb. scientists don't look at a radio and think Led Zeppelin is inside it. Science created the radio. and i know it is supposed to be a metaphor, but that is what psi is, not science. psi looks at tings and assumes the insane without looking for a logical, explainable, non stupid answer.
pyromonkey8 6 months ago
@pyromonkey8 "psi looks at tings and assumes the insane without looking for a logical, explainable, non stupid answer."
It's quite sad how you believe in that ridiculously prejudiced caricature of the truth, "Psi Assumption" when it is a bunch of rhetorical bullshit. If you had any first hand of knowledge of parapsychological experiments, especially the Ganzfeld, you would realize just how profoundly ignorant and bigoted that bullshit psi assumption is.....
IceAges14Aces 6 months ago
@IceAges14Aces Bull-fucking shit!!!!
There is no evidence of psychic abilities especially telepathy, so stop your fucking bullshit!!!!
bloodygamer2143 5 months ago
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@bloodygamer2143 "Bull-fucking shit!!!! There is no evidence of psychic abilities especially telepathy,...."
There's no evidence?????? Jesus Christ just how arrogant & dumbwitted can people like you possibly be???
For your information, there already is strong, independent replicable evidence of psi not from anecdotes nor famous psychics, but under double-blind, rigorously controlled experiments published in peer-reviewed journals.
Please, go piss-off somewhere else.
IceAges14Aces 5 months ago
@pyromonkey8 Scientists are fucken dumb! I will put up a Psi challenge in remote viewing to their best scientist out there, hands down I will clown their Ivy league asses easy.
Yes Scientist are that insane, they will always want to destroy dismantle break it just to examine the inner workings of it in their "mad scientist" sense of "greater good", classic example is Einstein's Brain! Einstein NEVER signed anything but still they chopped his brain up and what did they learn? nothing!
Wolfsbane909 5 months ago
This is silly. his proof that psi exists is by saying " there is proof" , " there are results". But he doesn't go any deeper than that to prove what he is saying. He says there is a Taboo. It isn't a taboo. It just isn't worth looking at because it doesn't exist. OOOOOOOo, one woman had a crazy experience...this was the day that her son died. She probably had a really bad headache, and afterwards, she kept thinking about her son dying and put the two together.
pyromonkey8 6 months ago
@pyromonkey8 "This is silly. his proof that psi exists is by saying " there is proof"
Quite intellectually lazy and quite frankly imprudent of you for saying such an ignoramus and bigoted thing. Have you even listen to his whole lecture? I'm assuming you haven't.....
"It just isn't worth looking at because it doesn't exist."
Doesn't exist? Have you even bother to look at these studies? I'm assuming you also haven't...
IceAges14Aces 6 months ago 15
@IceAges14Aces Why do you believe in psychic phenomena? Dean Radin is a fucking idiot! He thinks he scientifically prove psychic phenomena with his studies when his studies are flawed. How the hell did he got 29 million trillion to one with 3,145 sessions with 88 experiments and say its evidence of telepathy? Talk about pseudo-science and ignorance in mathematics...
Psychic phenomena doesn't exist its a bunch of mystical mumbo-jumbo bullcrap....
deadmau5321 2 months ago
@deadmau5321 "How the hell did he got 29 million trillion to one with 3,145 sessions with 88 experiments and say its evidence of telepathy? Talk about pseudo-science and ignorance in mathematics..."
The irony with this is that you're the one whose actually ignorant in scientific methodology/statistics. The actual probability of getting 1,008 hits from 3,145 ganzfeld sessions in a two-tailed t-test is P<0.000000001, which is extremely strong evidence in conventional, scientific criteria..
IceAges14Aces 2 months ago 3
@deadmau5321 "Why do you believe in psychic phenomena?"
I don't believe, I only accept things with "empirical evidence" accumulated with data-collection and always open to the possibility of falsification. The Ganzfeld, DMILS, etc. peer-reviewed studies are one of the reasons why I said parapsychological research warrants further research.
"Psychic phenomena doesn't exist its a bunch of mystical mumbo-jumbo bullcrap.... "
Pseudo-skepticism and dogmatism at its finest!
IceAges14Aces 2 months ago 3
@IceAges14Aces HAHA! Your a idiot!!!
1,008 hits from 3,145 is not evidence of psychic or telepathy whatsoever.....
Have a good day!
deadmau5321 2 months ago
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@deadmau5321 "HAHA! Your a idiot!!!"
Idiot? Really? That's all you have to tell me instead of backing yourself up via evidence? How idiotic of you....
"1,008 hits from 3,145 is not evidence of psychic or telepathy whatsoever"
Are you serious? 1,008 hits from 3,145 ganzfeld is not evidence of telepathy? My god just how stupid can these pseudo-skeptics get? Wrong, it is evidence. Go guess 3,145 times with a 1/4 probability of hit without cheating and I promise you, you'll never get it.....
IceAges14Aces 2 months ago
@deadmau5321 If all people were like you, we would have not invented even the wheel yet :D
geromino2007 3 weeks ago
@pyromonkey8 Watch the whole video...unless you somehow knew what he was going to say without watching t perhaps?? in which case you were wrong
OtagoMark 6 months ago
@pyromonkey8 So tell me did they find anything USEFUL when they chopped up Einstein's Brain without his consent? -NOPE
Wolfsbane909 5 months ago
Who is the Jessica chick that introduced this talk?? Some day.. I'm gonna marry that gal :)
REALITY2point0 6 months ago
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REALITY2point0 6 months ago
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no, no, no not Jessica Utts, the Google chick 00:30.. my future wife. Does anyone know her name?
REALITY2point0 6 months ago
I once watched a documentary film on a group of Tibetan monks who were able to raise the temperature of their bodies to boil water. Something that is by modern scientific standards is impossible, to raise your body temp. at will to such a temp seems unlikely but for this group was more then possible, but was part of their initiation. They would put ice cold blankets on themselves and were expected to make them dry in 10 minutes.
drakenmass18 6 months ago
@drakenmass18 similar phenomena like you mention are covered in great detail in the book Irreducible mind' it's a really good book
marcusantonio91 6 months ago
In regards to there being no conspiracy against the research into psi. Why did u.s military hire Reich to build the Organon then to revitalize the Tucson Desert? Why is there TONS of data and court papers proving that he and many others were assailed, threatened, jailed and defamed due to the progress towards showing the world Orgone energy?
yetzirahsan 7 months ago
Those who doubt the nature of psi should explore the methods of feeling it first. That would be more scientific. Also, a person who can control psi, while not being able to necessarily perform tk or shoot lightning from their fingertips can still do wild stuff, like manipulate their levels on an eeg, raise and lower their skin conductance level on a dime. Can any of you do this? What about immunity and health? Ive gone 8 years without being sick due to constant work with psi.
yetzirahsan 7 months ago
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@yetzirahsan Can we cut open your brain and see how that works?
Wolfsbane909 5 months ago
When i read the comments and when i watch this video i realized that i don't understand anything.....is this world so complicated or am i stupid???
SunnyNinanna 7 months ago
@SunnyNinanna It's not that you're stupid, it's possibly because you don't understand the concepts (especially statistics) that are implied in this lecture...
IceAges14Aces 7 months ago
And the unqualified puplic gets told so many stories (by scientists in the media) they they can basically think whatever they want. Although a huge majority of scientist agree upon a subject (Like the climate change). You people just gotta realise that Radin is a controversial figure. You should look up not only why he's right but also why his studies are flawed.
stauffap 7 months ago
Guys like Radin are a huge Problem nowadays. People like him make the public stupid. And that's because people think that this guy is qualified only because he has some master degree and the don't realise that he talks about stuff that goes beyond his qualifications. It's like in the climate debate. The media shows a single guy on tv and acts like this one person represents the consensus in the scientific community.
stauffap 7 months ago
@stauffap Aere you saying that Radin is not qualified to comment on psi research?? Please clarify.
OccasionallyBearded 7 months ago
@OccasionallyBearded yes, actually i do...i think he bends all facts they way he wants them to be...just like in one of his books "the concsous universe" ...he's right that psi research is some kind of taboo in science, but there are reasons for that...too many frauds and manipulated studies...and of course no evidence so far...especially not in double blind studies
stauffap 7 months ago
@stauffap I could not disagree more strongly. IME and IMO, many of the alleged "flaws" are based on skeptics themselves doing the twisting (which is NOT to say that there are no flawed studies -- certainly there are, I admit). And there ARE successful blind/double/triple blind blind studies (goign as far back as the SPR investigations with Leonora Piper). You and I have wildly different views on Dean Radin. He admits mistakes and accepts constructive criticisms.
OccasionallyBearded 7 months ago
@OccasionallyBearded well, the leonora piper "studies" were before 1950....i serously doubt that they had enough experience with frauds back then(and the tricks people use to make themselves appear supernatural) to make those studies bulletproof. So i can't take that seriously. Show me a more recent study ;)...but even nowadays very few people(also in the scientific world) know how it's possible to fake psi abbilities....i mean they even used to believe uri geller...lol
stauffap 7 months ago
@stauffap Have you read the original/primary reports on Piper? Some of the investigators were *very* skeptical, had a history of exposing frauds, and went to *absurd* lengths in ruling out fraud. The SPR investigators had uncovered many hundreds of frauds, leading one to say that only 5% of cases were worth looking into. I genuinely intend no offense, but your opinion on the Piper case is worthless if you haven't studied the material. It's a myth that pre-1950 investigators didnt know the tricks
OccasionallyBearded 7 months ago
@OccasionallyBearded I've read into it. And can't see that the possibilities of cold reading and other kinds of information gathering(yes, i know about the detectives) was sufficiently ruled out. Hits are always impressive and misses tend to be quickly forgotten. There is no suggestion in the literature available online that this important statistic was calculated or even taken into consideration.
stauffap 7 months ago
@stauffap Please tell me exactly what you read. Did you read the actual primary/original reports published by the SPR? They published a thousand pages on Piper. Or did you read second-hand accounts? Here's a tidbit: The investigators wanted to know if Piper was faking the trance, so here's what they did: They lit a flame on her skin, they pricked her with needles, they put ammonia under her nostrils, and they stuffed into her mouth spoonfulls of salt, perfume, and laundry detergent.Outofspace :(
OccasionallyBearded 7 months ago
@stauffap They read all of her mail. They had private detectives follow her (and when they reported back that Piper had no contacts, a skeptical Hodgson actually *stalked* Piper and stayed by her house in the middle of a terrible winter!). Hodgson once screamed at a sitter for bringing an umbrella inside on a rainy day because he thought it might have hidden info! They had strangers sit in for actual sitters. They often had stenographers write down everything. etc Not enough space for more :(
OccasionallyBearded 7 months ago
@OccasionallyBearded I see....you obviously spent a lot of time researching everything that supports your belief, but did you also take the time to research the other side? We can argue here endlessly...it's just a fact that no medium ever passed a serious modern tests. The cold reading skills evolved and are much more subtile than they used to be. So i still can't take a study from before 1950 seriously, since they simply didn't have sufficient knowledge to rule out fraud. Google derren brown
stauffap 7 months ago
@stauffap Yes, I'm well aware of Darren Brown. Yes, I did study (and continue to study) every perspective. I *am* a skeptic, but I apply skepticism to all perspectives, not just to the paranoral perspective. I can assure you that many of the SPR investigators were experts in fraud. Darren Brown's techniques would have been easily prevented/detected by the SPR investigators. But yes, we should agree to disagree. Peace :)
OccasionallyBearded 7 months ago
@stauffap All I can do is encourage you to read as much of the primary literature that you can. The investigators absolutely ruled out cold reading, hot reading, muscle reading, etc. You can find isolated cases where those techniques were *not* ruled out, but there are many cases when they were ruled out. What are your thoughts on the Kakie sittings??
OccasionallyBearded 7 months ago
@OccasionallyBearded Cold reading and muscle reading isn't everything you can use. Much more simple is it to talk to the person before such a meeting. Or order someone to gather information for you. That person can then easily deliver that information to you. Maybe mediums exist, who knows? But a 70 year old study won't convince me. Even if that study was true it would be of no significance. What's a medium good for? Give people old, forgotten information. How's that useful?
stauffap 7 months ago
@stauffap My friend, I Know that cold and muslce readings are not "everything". Hodgson, Lodge, etc. were able to prevent Piper from talking to people before the sittings. And on some occasions, *strangers* would sit in for the actual sitters. Also, they brought Piper to a *different country* to see how she would perform (she did just as well). And as I said, the SPR guys hired private detectives to follow Piper to make sure that she was not getting info from any sources. Plz read the literature
OccasionallyBearded 7 months ago
@OccasionallyBearded You certainly know more of the subject than i do. But what about this? phinuit was a french doctor and yet his french vocabulary was limited to "bonjour" and "au revoir" and had little to no knowledge about french medicine. Sounds strange to me, but i'm sure you know more about it ;)
stauffap 7 months ago
@stauffap Great question! :) Actually, most of the SPR investigators believed that "Phinuit" was a secondary personality created by Piper's subconscious. Piper herself did *not* believe that she was communicating with spirits. She believed that she had a combination of secondary personalities mixed with genuine psi capacities, which together *mimicked* the appearance of postmortem survival. I'm open to that interpretation.
OccasionallyBearded 7 months ago
@OccasionallyBearded Well, if i wanted to make someone believe in my abilities, i'd also make up a new explanation for my abilities that doesn't make me look like i'm a fraud ...like not knowing any french while having a french ghost taking over my body in trance
stauffap 7 months ago
@stauffap Piper obtained very intimate hits under conditions that ruled out fraud, as I've been explaining. Read the Kakie sittings (as 1 example) and then get back to me. And Piper's trance was most likely genuine (recall the lengths to which the investigators went to ensure that). The reason she invoked the secondary personality interpretation is because she was a Christian who believed that "spiritual things are unseen". I'm sorry, but you really don't have an informed opinion on Piper.
OccasionallyBearded 7 months ago
@stauffap At this point, I don't feel that I have anything helpful to add. If you have any questions about the Piper work, feel free to ask. Otherwise, I don't think I'll say anything else. Feel free to make any last point. Best wishes to you.
OccasionallyBearded 7 months ago
@OccasionallyBearded Nope nothing to add. Maybe i'll read into it more extensively in the future. But for now i have nothing more to say. Nice conversation though.
stauffap 7 months ago
@stauffap P.S. Uri Geller is an idiot. The work on Geller is not analogous to the work on Piper.
OccasionallyBearded 7 months ago
@OccasionallyBearded Well, uri geller was just an example to show you that they still don't know the tricks the frauds use. Regarding the conscious universe: Go to google and type in "dean radin scepticreport". It's an interesting review of the book.
stauffap 7 months ago
Additionally, the point is not whether or not PSI phenomena exist or not, it's the incredible lack of funding and interest despite so much evidence. Consciousness, and its effects, are the most poorly understood aspect of reality. And research that goes towards furthering understanding of it is quite beneficial imo.
ShiroRX 7 months ago
This all imo falls under the scientific study of consciousness. Consciousness is THE LEAST understood aspect of reality we've ever come across. It may even be its own fundamental Force.
ShiroRX 7 months ago
By his desperate attempts to use Quantuum physics to explain the existance of PSI phenomenons, one can just see how much his studies are guided and unconsciously manipulated by his wishful thinking. His entanglement hypothesis are simply not true from a quantuum physics point of view. He's mistunderstanding Quantuum Physics.
stauffap 7 months ago
How is that eastern stuff supposed to be science? It's just speculation. How did they benefit from their "brain doesn't equal mind" attitude? ....And PSI phenomenon have been studied. Especially during the cold war and obviously nothing usefull has been discovered....Another thing is that this guy interpretates Quantuum physics in a wrong way. He simply doesn't understand Quantuum physics. Quite understandable since it wasn't what he studied. He studied elecrtical engineering.
stauffap 7 months ago
@stauffap It's difficult to discredit a world renowned scientist in his field as a youtube commenter.
ShiroRX 7 months ago
@ShiroRX ...well, quantuum physics is part of my study path. He has a master's degree in electrical engeneering and educational psychology. And he's not really world renowned, especially not in the field of quantuum physics. It's really not a subject that he's qualified in. That he wrote some books and is the president of the parapsychological association doesn't make him qualified either.
stauffap 7 months ago
science dies without wild thinkers. rock on, dr. radin. parapsychology will soon outsmart neuroscience. neurons providing consciousness...hah!
ShiroRX 8 months ago
Western 'science' was and still is defined by its rejection of irrationality. That has, somehow, made it another ideology that needs to be torn down and dismantled since it has become a substitution to religious ideology.
Science is a tool not an ideology. People, however, like religious folks do, tend to be stuck up and unwilling to let go of what they believe to be the only way to think or understand reality.
A 'scientific thinking' that is closed minded is the same as religious dogma.
TheJaredtube 8 months ago
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TheJaredtube 8 months ago
I want to punch the guy that's asking the questions at the end.
PancakePlease 8 months ago
Radin is a real joker. No substantial statistics to support most of his conclusions.
Dem212 8 months ago
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@Dem212 "Radin is a real joker. No substantial statistics to support most of his conclusions."
No substantial statistics to support his psi hypotheses? Have you even looked at his whole lecture? It's implied
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BonnieGreenable 8 months ago
“Only puny secrets need protection. Big discoveries are protected by public incredulity.” Marshall McLuhan
WillBradleyRomine 8 months ago
Whoa. I'll need to doublecheck his data but it seems pretty interesting.
ThisOneIsTaken 8 months ago
One can be atheist and non-materialist at the same time. There is a significant body of evidence that suggests the materialist paradigm represents an incomplete understanding of reality. That there is a God or even afterlife is certainly not suggested by the data. Naturally, the 'fundematerialists' who treat materialism like a religious fundamentalist treats his religion, would deny this body of evidence in the same way a creationist denies evidence for evolution.
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theMerrillWally 9 months ago
@morph995 P.S. I think it's reasonable for somebody to infer God's existence on the basis of some NDEs and some cases of mediumship. But Dean Radin didn't get into those areas of research in this video. And IMO, the best NDE cases are nowhere near as impressive as the best medium cases, and the best medium cases are (to a degree) capable of being interpreted as cases of "super-psi" (a term I've grown to hate). Anyway, I repeat, Dean Radin didnot offer anything for an afterlife or God here. Peace
OccasionallyBearded 9 months ago
@OccasionallyBearded You make an excellent point, and I think the flak parapsychology often receives from mainstream science is at least somewhat a result of the diminished respect for religion in academia and their incorrect association of grouping everything 'paranormal' into that general category. Also, the fact that 98% of the literature on the paranormal is New Age, pseudoscientific nonsense, makes the small percentage that is rigorously and scientifically studied unjustly lose credibility.
GermanOperaSinger 8 months ago
@GermanOperaSinger Agreed :)
OccasionallyBearded 8 months ago
@GermanOperaSinger It is my understanding that many materialist philosophers bluntly dismiss psi research as "nonsense" and "pseudoscience" without looking into the evidence... much as you have done with New Age beliefs.
Be careful of bluntly dismissing anything; the New Age people have been right on many counts. There really is very little pseudoscience out there. Yes, certain things like Zero Point wands are fake (I have researched them), but I never dismiss a claim before looking into it.
Janotheknight 8 months ago
@OccasionallyBearded Ian Stevenson's research is quite interesting as well, whilst not conclusive at all, it does point to something interesting going on
marcusantonio91 8 months ago
@morph995 Respectfully, I must insist that you're wrong on this point. The "a" in atheism means "without". So the word literally means "without theism". But you don't have to believe in God to believe in an afterlife (look at Buddhists for example). Secondly, there is nothing in this video that directly suggests an afterlife. And for the record, Dean Radin has recently said that he is "not yet" convinced that there even is an afterlife.
OccasionallyBearded 9 months ago
@morph995 why wouldn't atheists like this video? Some parapsychologists are atheists...
OccasionallyBearded 9 months ago
@morph995 How does this prove god is real and what does atheism have to do with this? Just because psi phenomena: Telepathy, Telekinesis, etc. has been moved from the realm of nonsense to ok it may be real doesn't mean other paranormal or supernatural phenomena may exist. Whether it's ghosts, bigfoot, etc. it's irrelevant.....
IceAges14Aces 9 months ago
@morph995 On the contrary, this is tangible scientific evidence. Atheists love tangible scientific evidence. It is religious idiots who will eventually become enraged by the advancements of this field of science, as it DOES NOT prove God is real AT ALL.
tret32 9 months ago
FASCINATING!!!!
Mathildaonline 9 months ago
the day we know exactly what consciousness is, how exactly it fits into and operates in our reality will probably be the day everyone stops looking for reasons to discredit what is obviously something that is not yet understood, it's simply "knowledge acquisition in progress" it is just a little disturbing to see people attempt to paint this man into a corner....although it does I'm sure keep him on his toes.
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bushka5 9 months ago
Was considering giving this thumbs down, just to prove his point about the taboo part - but i see a lot of people beat me to it, so i'll give it thumbs up :D
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MrCarolynMadrid 10 months ago
Radin is a great scientist. I enjoyed this video. I have several videos up (more are coming) of myself testing the psychic abilities within my younger brother. These are on my channel if anyone would like to investigate. I am a hypnotist by hobby and I have used hypnotism to develop mediumship within several clients. Isaac, being so young, yet sincere, was the perfect subject. He made a variety of claims, all of which seem to be validated by my testing. Investigate for yourself. Thank you.
429Cage 10 months ago
There is no conspiracy against views like this. There is simply an institution that doesnt believe in it. A large number of great discoveries in science have been rejected by the mainstream scientific community at first - even einstein rejected his own discoveries about quantum physics that have been proven true. The scientific community is made up of people, and people are inheritly biased
scottdjp 10 months ago 28
@scottdjp quantum physics have been proven as true?? really??? I think not! They're still theories not laws
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ShiroRX 8 months ago
it's actually the most successfully proven scientific concept of all time.
ShiroRX 8 months ago
@scottdjp i think many scientists get scared of the idea of an immaterial reality because they think it makes what they do pointless. Which seems a little foolish imo.
ShiroRX 7 months ago
@ShiroRX That's not true...quantuum physics is all about the immaterial...that's what we learn from quantuum physics, that we gotta stop thinking in those kind of patterns...there's no such thing as logic or material...there's just data or information...and the job of the scientist is to find a theory that works for all the data
stauffap 7 months ago
"If she ranks the target 1, it's a hit, or otherwise it's a miss."
My bad. If the receiver ranks the correct target 1, it's a hit, or otherwise it's a miss.
IceAges14Aces 10 months ago
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TheNorwegianSkeptic 10 months ago
I was actually going to watch this whole thing, but if you start your argument by saying there is a conspiracy against his view, I just get pissed off. This is the most basic classic defence of people who have views they cannot demonstrate. If the thing you talk off is true, then show the world it is. Publish a study. I reject the supernatural because every single study I have seen has methodology flaws, and have not demonstrated the supernatural. It may exist, but so far it has not been proven
markgg1 10 months ago
I have looked closely into the experiments, and there is serious flaws in the evidence. The ganzfield experiment is a perfect example. Saying you are blocking auditory signals by playing white noise is silly. The person is still hearing a sound. Also, the pictures may be very vague and the results can be interpreted many ways.
Also, his first example is an anecdote. Means nothing.
And, personal experience is problematic.
The fact mainstream science is dismissive is simply a lack of proof
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these people really just wanna be smarter then someone for their own self gratification
shortysmagic 11 months ago
these people really just wanna be smarter then someone for their own self gratification
shortysmagic 11 months ago
Dr Radin has far to much credibility and professionalism to deal with people like Randi
marcusantonio91 11 months ago
forgive me for the things i am not willing to belive because I have no explaination... Thats the kind of people he is dealing with during his presentation. We all have precognition instinct but much like quantum physics you can't yield an explaination. Higgs Field, M thoery, Sting Theory. When man can't explain things they become dismissive of what they observe. its a matter of believing the unbelivable, man does it all the time, its called religion.
MOOKYJONES 11 months ago
I know for a fact that mysticism is still practice even in this era. It is deep sin to delve into this art and to apply them is even greater sin... I'm not talking about lucid dreaming or clairvoyance. It is essential to stop people using this psi before things get out of hand.
revolutionaryjake 11 months ago
@revolutionaryjake Please define "sin" and explain why it is a "sin" to explore psi phenomena.
EternalRecursion 11 months ago
@EternalRecursion for me sin is when you inflict to someone pain or suffering. Psi allows the possibility to hurt someone without people's knowledge. Learning it is fine but it is still dangerous.
revolutionaryjake 11 months ago
@revolutionaryjake Taking your definition of sin, I must say that it is my observation that humans are a sinful lot. It is also my experience that the exploration and cultivation of psi capabilities is neutral in regards to a person's tendencies to sin. It seems that very few people transcend the ego drive to be dominant, to be important, but I think as many have benevolent intent as have malevolent purpose. Of course, "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions."
EternalRecursion 11 months ago
@revolutionaryjake How is union with God (mysticism) a sin? The ones who pass beyond the veil are the psychic, the mystic, and the occultist; The rest of the world lives in illusion. Many prophets in the bible practiced things we would today consider occultish, but you have to pay attention to the wording to see it. ECCLESIASTES 12: 6 says to "remember your creator before the silver cord snaps," and the silver cord is what connects your physical and etheric bodies during astral projection.
MaynardMouse 11 months ago
It's really sad how people, including scientists, tend to criticize and put down anything that contradicts their well-accepted scientific ideas without even bothering to investigate it. Even the well-respected scientists, like Einstein, Newton, Charles Darwin, etc have all been mocked, ridiculed, and strongly criticized all because their theories or research contradicts well-accepted scientific ideas. Now they are putting this crap on Dean Radin? We really do need open minded people, honestly.
angelsssssssssssss 11 months ago 20
@angelsssssssssssss But if someone comes up with an idea the contradicts firmly established science, they need to present a good argument, and have evidence. I have read some of the 'experiments' done and they simply do not demonstrate the paranormal at all.
Science by definition is an open enterprise, but if you want to be heard bring the evidence, that can be verified & can be repeated by some else.
im so bored of hearing the idea there is a conspiracy against paranormal claims.
markgg1 10 months ago
@markgg1 I strongly agree that if someone comes up with a claim that contradicts firmly established science, that person needs to provide replicable evidence from blind, controlled experiments or otherwise that person won't be taken seriously. On the other hand, rejecting it out of hand just because it defies scientific knowledge is outright misleading. Science, by its nature, is a systematic, tentative process of testing hypotheses facilitated by data collection.
IceAges14Aces 10 months ago
@IceAges14Aces But no one rejects it out of hand,.. no scientific thinking person has ever done that. They say 'interesting idea, can you prove it' - if they can, then it becomes science. Anything that exists within our universe, is natural... all because you can use a word trick and call something 'supernatural' doesn't mean this thing exists. If the paranormal was demonstrated, it would be a part of the natural world as it would have a process, and thus be called 'natural phenomenon'
markgg1 10 months ago
@markgg1 I don't really believe in "proofs" in science because if you look at the history of science, you can see that many well-accepted scientific concepts, such as Newton's Corpuscular Theory of Light, have been rejected or modified. Another reason why I don't believe is because hypotheses, as well as theories, are tentative and never proven. Of course there are empirical evidence for it, but empirical evidence isn't absolute proof because you would have to test every aspect of it.
IceAges14Aces 10 months ago
@IceAges14Aces Also, homeopathy is another example. It is called Alternative medicine, because it doesnt work. If homeopathy worked, it would just be called 'medicine'. This such basic logic seems to escape people. People love playing with semantics. All because there is a word that means opposite of something, e.e. supernatural, or alternative medicine, it doesnt mean we take it seriously.
It depresses me people believe this magical rubbish when the reality of our existence is so stunning.
markgg1 10 months ago
@markgg1 I don't know much about homeopathy and I'm not really into it, but I agree that homeopathy is useless. The only way homeopathy would become accepted in the scientific community is if the effect can be replicable under double-blind, controlled experiments from many studies and published in a peer-review journal.
I agree that we shouldn't take supernatural claims seriously, but if there is valid scientific evidence of it, then we should take it seriously.
IceAges14Aces 10 months ago
@IceAges14Aces Hey, sorry when I say proven, I agree with your definition. I would never claim absolutely certainty as new theories could remove old ones, like the examples you gave. I think we think alike by the sounds of things, and frankly think our way of thinking is probably as closest mapped to reality as is possible. Of course, one can claim this is an opinion, but I disagree. I can prove all of my beliefs using science. These supernatural guys cannot. Thats the difference.
markgg1 10 months ago
@markgg1 Don't worry about it. A lot of people have misconceptions in science. Anyway, as for the conspiracy you have mentioned here, I certainly think there are taboos in academia. Every education from schools, colleges, and universities are all politically-driven. For example, all the biology teachers from my high school teach students about evolution, but they had never teach them anything about the time of apes to human or how we came to life. Why is that? Oh, that's right, it's a taboo.
IceAges14Aces 10 months ago
@IceAges14Aces They don't teach abiogenesis (how life originated) because nobody knows how it started.
Also the details of ape to human is very limited as well, as very few fossils have been found. In high school they wouldn't go into that sort of detail anyway, as they teach general principles of biology. If you studied evolution at University, you could pick modules on human evolution if you wished.
There are no taboos.
markgg1 10 months ago
@markgg1 Well, I'm not going to argue with that taboo thingy anymore. Believe what you want.
Anyway, I have looked at your criticism for the Ganzfeld experiments & unfortunately they are not plausible. As for the blocking auditory signals, of course the receiver will hear white noise, but the white noise blanks out exteriorl noises. The white noise & the red light puts the receiver under sensory deprivation. About a few minutes, the receiver would be in a state known as The Ganzfeld Effect.
IceAges14Aces 10 months ago
@IceAges14Aces and that proves telepathic powers?
What is the statistical chance of getting a false positive? You need to at least look into that first, before doing experiments like this.
markgg1 10 months ago
@markgg1 "and that proves telepathic powers?" I'm not saying and I will never say that the Ganzfeld experiments prove telepathy exist. As I have said before, I don't believe in scientific proofs because it is always possible that an alternative hypothesis or scientific theory can be rejected or modified by tommorow. However, the ganzfeld meta-analysis which combines the results of studies conducted from 1974-2004, clearly shows something interesting is going on. Was it telepathy? Perhaps.
IceAges14Aces 10 months ago
@markgg1 Good question! The probability of finding an observation at least as extreme that occured in which the null-hypothesis is true is measured as the P-Value. The P-Value (Ex: P=0.4598) tells you what is the probability of getting an observation at least in extreme in which the null-hypothesis is true. Anyway, the probability of getting the overall results in the ganzfeld meta-analysis in which the null-hypothesis is true is less than one in a trillion.
IceAges14Aces 10 months ago