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  • Stuff like this is always great for a laugh. I don't expect all to believe in evolution. I'm a good Christian, along with almost all the geologists I work with. There's no problem with God using natural tools to meet His purposes. It's hilarious to try to apply these explanations to strata of varying lithologies or known morphological features. I wonder what these people think of real geologists. I've never been to a meeting where people sat around trying to disprove God. Silly little video.

  • The Coconino Sandstone, the third layer down in the Grand Canyon, is from wind blown, desert sands.

    We know this from the fossils in it. There are 44 Distinct layers of DIFFERENT KINDS OF ROCK exposed in the Grand Canyon.

    Some are slow growing corals like in the Redwall limestone.

    Floods don’t do that.

    Not all sedimentary rock is from water! Like ash layers.

  • I've watched the whole video and have concluded that these videos are geared towards people who don't know any better. Take some geology and move into a course on sedimentology where you do lab work, then comment on whether you think this video is honest or not. I think you will find that its not what its cracked up to be. Please don't be content to just watch this video and then say "See, there is evidence of a young earth."

  • Not only are trees going through the strata but fish, plant and animal fosils do as well.

    Explain that evolutionists!

    Just kidding ;-)

    I know you can't.

    Next subject!

  • this has been known before evolution joke started. just one fraction of the motives for the belief= old earth means justified oil prices ..if people ever once put it together the usa would collapse..young earth means no oil shortage..no earth day korn bloominess ..weve got to continue pushing the evolution godforbid the people actually realized..these type vids or info like this needs to be hushed ..let the idiots continue rationalizing their monkey belief ..its much too late at this point

  • Welcome to I'm right and you're wrong brought to you by the numbers 666 and the letters C, U, N, T. How can these people be so stupid?????

  • theres already one person thrown in prison because of their relentless voice on debunking evolution...most who continue this campaign in favor of creation or "young earth" dont have the luxury of "NOT PAYING TAXES" as K Hovind because he wouldnt be alive today otherwise..best HEED what kinda powers are being challenged - are the same who put a man on a stick till he died & have the power to ..well, just a warning...its obvious enough young earth is a fact & theres a goal which WILL be reached

  • @dubvishun So you think the furthest star visualized is thousand's of light years away? Or you think the stars that are billions of light years away were created to look that way?

  • @JimmyFingerz hmm, lets put sum time n2 U..go to the top right corner of yer page & exit b4 reading the rest im continueing..hurry..stop those eyes-click-alright..a fleshy bloodsack carried around by a couple of legs with a head on top indoctrinated pron to lecture & dleiver studies coined "lightyear" so what kinda people define what they "know" by those deliveries from the same image of another bloodsack.. sh#t , i may be one of'm but my mind refuses that paradigm MYSTERY SCHOOLS RULE ull learn

  • @dubvishun I didn't understand one word of that, thx anyway.

  • @JimmyFingerz1 sure u did, {dont brag if ya didnt} even i can recognize where dialogue will end up so y not rush to conclusion rather carrying out a saga of text under a vid. besides , ur still without excuse. ..also..let this series of posts be a heads up to whomever finds themselves stumblin upon it...make biased comments only-derogatory or in agreeance..leavin me out of it. this way whoever u maybe ."IF" theres a time..u then can be correct. & yes, i hate th33 best. j3suits dictat3

  • @dubvishun I didn't understand one word of that, thx anyway.

  • @JimmyFingerz1 A fact to chew on, not - God is definitely real as kookie as it sounds..salvation is conditional & strict..theres the element of disqualification][reprobate. narrow is the path, the sin has got to STOP lest the worst thing comes upon u..then repentence for that slip up is a must..most everyone "christian" will not make it..not to mention the rest. diggin for truth isnt hard unless one depends on deliveries from another bloodsack, trouble is; heeding found truth. woo000000. indeed.

  • Wow. The Naples sequences are well-known and understood examples of prograding. This is the bedding that occurs at shorelines and in river deltas as water velocities slow.

    Carrying capacity of water is related to the square of the water velocity, heavier sediments precipitate soonest, IE closest to shoreline.

    This is no secret and not relevant to most of the surface of the planet

  • It makes sense... and be careful. Don't confuse the term layer with bank. Rivers are the most erosive force on Earth. A bank of sediment can be quickly deposited by rivers. I recommend the Planet Earth Fresh Water Video.

  • Every layer takes millions of years to form? Strange,I've never heard such an idea in any geology books I have and I've never heard a single geologist say such a thing,ever. I only hear it in videos like this.

    And dried out sediment turns into rock? This video must be satire...

  • only thing i can see is Agore was there and seen a giant global warmed up tornado and tossed the tree in the rocks.. there ya have it  lol

  • tragisch, werkelijk waar. dezelfde oude argumenten maar weer uit den ouden doosch....*zucht*

  • Look at all the responses, lol, stepping on toes a bit.

  • The theory being described is known as neptunism, and has been well and truly debunked by the work of James Hutton and Charles Lyell. NO REAL GEOLOGIST takes the theory of neptunism seriously, because it fails in every situation. The above example is likely innaccurate, though it likely represents a prograding delta deposit.

    For the sediments to be lithified (turned to rock) they would have to be buried deeply for a long time, not just dried out. think about beach sand...

  • For crying out loud, there are Christians who don't take the Biblical flood account literally. I even know ID advocates who agree that the world is more than just a couple thousand years old.

  • These so-called ''polystrate'' tree fossils are the result of faster than usual deposition of sediments due to ocean cycling, peat bogs etc.

    ''It would take millions of years to bury the tree.''

    Please. Scientists don't state that just because there are many layers that they are automatically millions of years old.

    Your polystrate fossils do not now, nor have they ever posed a problem for evolutionary biology or an old Earth.

    I am so sick of your same old outdated arguments.

  • Ridiculous.

  • Please .... Go back to Middle Ages !!!!!

  • Is he suggesting that all sedimentary rocks form this way? Limestone doesn't.

  • loool many more robots still really hating on these vids. Just because these scientist state facts that destroy your weak ideas they all of a sudden become creationists. They are not creationists...so what you have to say...dont come of subject im not intrested in you. stick with the facts.

  • Darpa -This is a commercial creationist video "Drama in the Rocks" it is posted by hanbouman a creationist .

  • Darpa - this video has "real science" clips high jacked and edited in to look respectable .The man in this video narrating is a creationist .

  • Darpa -google Polystrate" Tree Fossils by Andrew MacRae . You should find a different denomination where you dont have to lie to others or yourself! Shame on you !

  • Where there trees buried in Louisiana -Yes ! Was Louisiana flooded more than once (with breakers and barriers storm walls ) .Land can sink below sea level and flood -LOUISIANA!

  • your the one with the crippled mind, muppet. i show my reports to your so called mainstream scientists not creationist scientists as i dont know any, and they are baffed without any resonable explanation. And the trees you mention cross through layers supposed to be millions of years apart. keep flying

  • Darpa no one says the layers are millions of years old .I just explained trees can be covered by more than one flooding -LOUISINA -Hello!

  • Creationists usually can't be argued with because it involves extreme psychology of denial and true believer syndrome .Fossilized trees where explained in 1800's.Google polystrate trees .

  • loool some robots really hating on these vids. great post. 5 stars.

  • I couldn't bring myself to bear the ignorance after hearing "One of the problems are fossilized trees" polystrate trees have been understood for over a century

  • Hurricane Gustave hit new Orleans .The second hurricane to strike  .That's how trees get covered up quickly .

  • There are millions of layers of buried fossil reefs where I live . Sideways deposition cant fake that .See my videos to learn real science!

  • If you want to see a grounded reply on evolution, you can go to:

    evolution-facts (dot) org

    (I have to put it like this, as you can't put websites on YouTube)

    There you can e.g. download the pdf-file The Evolution Cruncher,

    Or take a look online at the 3 Volume Encyclopedia.

    This should help finding out that the evolution theory is invalid.

  • Hanbouman - creationist and ID arguments sound slick and convincing to those not familiar with mainstream science ,Creationists want to believe in special creation with passion!

  • i feel sorry for you...as if the scientists in these vids know less than you...keep flying, muppet.

  • Darpa - creationism has a horrible reputation as being non sense & non science .Creationism is a huge profit industry for those who push it .

  • i have presented these FACTS already to other scientists and they agree, i have carried out my own experiments to do with sediments and they agree....think you should keep flying, muppet.

  • Darpa - I hope you have the courage to study more to overcome the mental poisoning of fundamentalism .You need not be a mind cripple for life let your intelligence save you .

  • Creationism is considered pseudo science by mainstream science .The only scientists that will agree with this are other creationists ,there are no exceptions the faith fever is primary of all Fundy's.

  • Darpa , every aspect of mainstream science is available to you for free to learn and understand .Creationist ministers and authors get very rich lying .

  • Darpa- E mail any geologic dept.on Earth with a link to this video and ask them if they think its valid . If you think this is true stand in mirror- feel sorry for yourself.Creationism is conjob!

  • Creationists usually can't be argued with because it involves extreme psychology of denial and true believer syndrome .Rest assured evolution is safe and sound .Break free from your programming with intense reading and curiosity .SCIENCE can SAVE YOU !

  • @hanbouman

    How does this video have anything to do with evolution?

  • @rrconly Because if the rocks are not millions of years old, evolution does not have the timescale to take place.

  • @TEKNINEZ

    Rocks are very old indeed. There is plenty of scientific evidence that supports the age of some rocks to be nearly 4 billion years old. There is plenty of time for evolution to have occured and we continue to observe evolution every day. As for sedimintary rock deposits and the like - they have NOTHING to do with evolution.

  • @rrconly No there isn't.

    There is speculation based on speculation that the rocks are 4 billion years old.

  • @rrconly "Rocks have nothing to do with evolution" If the rock is young, so is the earth. And by young I mean between 6000-12000 yrs old. That clearly isn't enough time to evolve into man from early life forms, I think that was the point he was trying to make. But 12000 years isn't even enough time to evolve lion to house cat or vice versa, which is what YEC's believe took place.

  • @rrconly If the rocks are only 1000s of years old there hasn't been enough time for evolution to take place, simple as that really.

  • @flyingscience..If you had watched the whole video, sideways deposition is discussed.

  • Layers don't form on their sides , if they did they wouldn't match up and be consistant.Horizontal layers prove an old Earth and evolutionary sequence of life.

  • layers dont form side on, gravity abhors a slop. Law of original horizontality - look it up in a principles of stratigraphy text

  • Most creationists have less than a 5th grade level understanding of science.Its easy to emotionally manipulate creationists with things they want to be true.

  • he could be an alien

  • Simply google polystrate trees to learn more .Check out my fossil videos !

  • The whole premise is flawed .Layers dont take millions of years always .The tree was flooded more than once with multiple layers much like New Orleans .

  • are you serious,didn't you listen? the damn tree would have rotted off before it got flooded again.

  • juggernautxtr-you can have multiple floodings and layers in less than 1 years time.This is a known fact today .The wood can be solid for decades even submerged-also a fact.

  • How many seconds did it take you to realise this was a creationist film ?Cheap titles first clue . the first words -"One of the problems" nailed it .Speaker dressed formally not casual.

  • Christian Scientist??? Ohhh my GOD.....

  • And... ?

  • @EmilTri Newton was a christian scientist. Oh ny GOD!!!!!!

  • @EmilTri Newton was a christian scientist, oh my god!!!!!. It doesnt matter what he is, but what he is saying. Try debunking the video with intelligent response's instead of talking shit.

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  • @EmilTri Newton was too, oh my god!!

  • @TEKNINEZ Ok you are right, I made a mistake. But keep the discussion on. We will see who is talking shit.

  • @EmilTri Still talking shit i see.

  • @TEKNINEZ Are you a cientist?

  • @EmilTri Yeah,I love cience, woulden't no the first thing about science though other than what ive learned.

  • @TEKNINEZ I will study more to get back to this discussion with a superior mind....

  • What horrible creationism: the rocks at the bottom are evidently older than the rocks at the top because the bottom strata must be there to physically support the layers above (there are no flying layers). Worse, this video makes the claim that the strata of Walter's observation were of the same age. This is refuted by the principle of original horizontality: sediment is deposited originally in a horizontal fashion.

  • "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." This includes the original rock. Later we got the flood of Noah, through we got the layers. These layers could rest on the original rock of course.

    Did you see the other 3 vid's?

    Principle of

  • Sorry, this is a load of shit... have fun making things up.

  • Back up your side then ass, quit being a condescending shit.

  • Geo, are we a little mad that the experiments shown here destroy and ahnilate the evolutionary teaching of uniformitarianism? :D :D

  • On what imaginary planet?

  • Uh... Earth. You aren't a Christian Scientist are you?

  • Fuck no... that's a complete oxymoron. Religion and science are vastly different things... science seeks to explains the behavior of the universe through observation and interpretation, while religion just makes things up and then claims you will go to a "bad place" if you do not buy into the BS.

  • Your right, religion and science are different fields. I aways find how Athiests and Humanists try very desperately to 'show' how science supports their religion to be interesting. I think you are upset that the experiments used in this video refute evolutionary uniformitarianism. Science is after all largely based on observation from experimentation. Hurts when something you believe strongly gets disproven.

  • You profoundly contradicted yourself in your fist two sentences... sad. I'm not reading the rest.

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