c) perfectly quiet for the young rider. Perhaps she knows if she moves when not directed, there will be serious consequences? Or perhaps she's learned from your methods that standing quiet has better results than behaving obnoxiously. Hmm. Like I said, I'm on the fence as to how I feel about this method. Thanks for posting this video, though. Definitely brought a new perspective.
There will always be critics.This "nut" clearly snaps the horse back into realty.It also makes her responsible for the discomfort that head throwing causes.She herself is given a choice as to whether or not to throw her head.Thanks.Interesting stuff,
I like you video it will be useful the parts that I heard. Your voice ranged close then far away which made it hard to all what you have said. Thank you!
Its a simple and effective solution, make it difficult for the horse to do the wrong thing and easy to do the right thing. E.g Shake head....not pleasant , not shake head...ah, that feels better.
maybe if people read jamie jacksons books about keeping horses naturally this problems would fix themselves and be prevented. horses are not meant to be kept in cages or as we call them 'stables' they are herd animals they need to be in a herd.
I have seen OTTBs but have never seen this problem. I wonder what sort of emotional stress brought this on?
Did you give her any time to let her emotions down?? Like several months at pasture? Did she stay calm and can you take the hobbles off now? I am not wild about that knot..that looks like an eye injury waiting to happen. Again what a pity to let it come to that.
You will always have critics about your methods. I say if you achieve your goal, with out permanent damage, then bravo. I find your videos quite helpful, and while I may not follow them exactly, I use them as a tool to reform my own methods. Thank you, keep them coming!
10 for persistence Killberg :) We have a choice to not go in elevators then. The horse is captive to it's own deamons when snapped and there are no available options at al. Psychologists have people afraid of snakes, handle them. This brought the horse from hypnosis, empowering it to examine it's own behaviour. Regards
If you have an itch and I whack you every time you try to scratch, how does that help you feel better? It may suppress the behaviour, but your anxiety will come out in other ways. There are lots of ways to help this problem. Eg., I'm not a fan of clicker trainer, but in this case it can change the anxiety, not just the behaviour. BTW, you have a stranger definition of "proof"
with respect, an itch is not a lost and helpless mental condition. There is a vast difference between voluntarily and involuntary. The proof is that the 13 year old first horse child is now having a ball on a relaxed horse and the prior decision to have the doggers truck pick the horse up was cancelled. regards
Ok, if you prefer let's say you are claustrophobic and in an elevator and everytime you get nervous I whack you. Do I cure your worry or just stop you from showing it? I'm not saying you didn't stop the behaviour. But it seems that you chose a method that didn't address the horse's confidence problem and it will show up in other ways at other times. Your method is what best suited people and not the horse.
It is disturbing to me that to fix an emotional problem that you put the horse between a rock and hard place. That is, he either stops weaving or he gets whacked in the head with a swinging bolt. There are better ways that deal with the cause of the problem rather than the symptoms.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt as I notice you on my other video too killberg. So tell me how then? They mostly end at the Doggers. For proof of the benefits, read the letter on my site tonight regarding another of them and this week, we have saved a pregnancy situation with one as well. Regards
Well, that is just amazing Mr. HP! Good thinking to figure out the 'nut' solution. Very bright indeed. A joy to see the young owner with the filly looking relaxed and happy. Good job!
Thanks filly4. Yes, lovely young Kid too. Her Mum represented Australia in the Small Bore Shooting twice and drove her to succeed. It brings joy to my heart :) x
and not only that but he got zapped a couple of times from the fence!!even now if one is being ridden the other will spine in circles and rear up until he comes back. ( both horse do these acts when one or the other is away)and this is all because of Seperation Anxiety.
tossing there heads rearing up tring to get to the other horse...then one of them decided to leap over the fence !!!he got over into his mates paddock but he was at full flight and ran through the next paddocks fence ripping his chest/front legs
The girl who owned them moved them into the property late one afternoon ( there is about 80 half acre paddocks close to each other) it was getting dark so it was hard to see.both the horses were off loaded and were put into 2 paddocks next to each other. This is when thing went bad.....the paddocks are made up of wooden posts and electric wire.both the horses bolted up and down there paddocks
there was a terrible accident with 2 horse where I keep my horse at.Both of them had come off the track and had been together since they were very young.
c) perfectly quiet for the young rider. Perhaps she knows if she moves when not directed, there will be serious consequences? Or perhaps she's learned from your methods that standing quiet has better results than behaving obnoxiously. Hmm. Like I said, I'm on the fence as to how I feel about this method. Thanks for posting this video, though. Definitely brought a new perspective.
Leocadiant 2 months ago
There will always be critics.This "nut" clearly snaps the horse back into realty.It also makes her responsible for the discomfort that head throwing causes.She herself is given a choice as to whether or not to throw her head.Thanks.Interesting stuff,
NewfieSherry 6 months ago
I like you video it will be useful the parts that I heard. Your voice ranged close then far away which made it hard to all what you have said. Thank you!
ilovehorses3270 9 months ago
Its a simple and effective solution, make it difficult for the horse to do the wrong thing and easy to do the right thing. E.g Shake head....not pleasant , not shake head...ah, that feels better.
kaeso100 1 year ago
maybe if people read jamie jacksons books about keeping horses naturally this problems would fix themselves and be prevented. horses are not meant to be kept in cages or as we call them 'stables' they are herd animals they need to be in a herd.
barefootjayne 1 year ago
great work mate.
whatis07 2 years ago
UPDATE
She won both of her Dressage tests last week and the young Lass is successfully eventing her. Regards
horseproblems 2 years ago
I have seen OTTBs but have never seen this problem. I wonder what sort of emotional stress brought this on?
Did you give her any time to let her emotions down?? Like several months at pasture? Did she stay calm and can you take the hobbles off now? I am not wild about that knot..that looks like an eye injury waiting to happen. Again what a pity to let it come to that.
gmwwc 2 years ago
Very interesting stuff. the horse gets to learn that they don't have to be doing all that stuff, and that the horse can relax. I like the ideas.
lazyhorse73 3 years ago 3
You will always have critics about your methods. I say if you achieve your goal, with out permanent damage, then bravo. I find your videos quite helpful, and while I may not follow them exactly, I use them as a tool to reform my own methods. Thank you, keep them coming!
crystal98110 3 years ago 3
Impressive job! It's difficult to hear at some portions of the vid though. Thanks for posting these.
SugarJak 4 years ago 2
10 for persistence Killberg :) We have a choice to not go in elevators then. The horse is captive to it's own deamons when snapped and there are no available options at al. Psychologists have people afraid of snakes, handle them. This brought the horse from hypnosis, empowering it to examine it's own behaviour. Regards
horseproblems 4 years ago
I think its a good idea, it isn't a huge bolt so won't do any but help cure the problem.
alienscot1 4 years ago
If you have an itch and I whack you every time you try to scratch, how does that help you feel better? It may suppress the behaviour, but your anxiety will come out in other ways. There are lots of ways to help this problem. Eg., I'm not a fan of clicker trainer, but in this case it can change the anxiety, not just the behaviour. BTW, you have a stranger definition of "proof"
kilberg16 4 years ago
with respect, an itch is not a lost and helpless mental condition. There is a vast difference between voluntarily and involuntary. The proof is that the 13 year old first horse child is now having a ball on a relaxed horse and the prior decision to have the doggers truck pick the horse up was cancelled. regards
horseproblems 4 years ago 2
Ok, if you prefer let's say you are claustrophobic and in an elevator and everytime you get nervous I whack you. Do I cure your worry or just stop you from showing it? I'm not saying you didn't stop the behaviour. But it seems that you chose a method that didn't address the horse's confidence problem and it will show up in other ways at other times. Your method is what best suited people and not the horse.
kilberg16 4 years ago
It is disturbing to me that to fix an emotional problem that you put the horse between a rock and hard place. That is, he either stops weaving or he gets whacked in the head with a swinging bolt. There are better ways that deal with the cause of the problem rather than the symptoms.
kilberg16 4 years ago
I will give you the benefit of the doubt as I notice you on my other video too killberg. So tell me how then? They mostly end at the Doggers. For proof of the benefits, read the letter on my site tonight regarding another of them and this week, we have saved a pregnancy situation with one as well. Regards
horseproblems 4 years ago
cheers ppp
horseproblems 4 years ago
they both do what this horse is doing.. i should tell the owner about your video... its a great idea!! :)
PurplePaintedPony 4 years ago
Well, that is just amazing Mr. HP! Good thinking to figure out the 'nut' solution. Very bright indeed. A joy to see the young owner with the filly looking relaxed and happy. Good job!
filly4billy2002 4 years ago
Thanks filly4. Yes, lovely young Kid too. Her Mum represented Australia in the Small Bore Shooting twice and drove her to succeed. It brings joy to my heart :) x
horseproblems 4 years ago
need to read from bottom to top :)
PurplePaintedPony 4 years ago
and not only that but he got zapped a couple of times from the fence!!even now if one is being ridden the other will spine in circles and rear up until he comes back. ( both horse do these acts when one or the other is away)and this is all because of Seperation Anxiety.
PurplePaintedPony 4 years ago
tossing there heads rearing up tring to get to the other horse...then one of them decided to leap over the fence !!!he got over into his mates paddock but he was at full flight and ran through the next paddocks fence ripping his chest/front legs
PurplePaintedPony 4 years ago
The girl who owned them moved them into the property late one afternoon ( there is about 80 half acre paddocks close to each other) it was getting dark so it was hard to see.both the horses were off loaded and were put into 2 paddocks next to each other. This is when thing went bad.....the paddocks are made up of wooden posts and electric wire.both the horses bolted up and down there paddocks
PurplePaintedPony 4 years ago
there was a terrible accident with 2 horse where I keep my horse at.Both of them had come off the track and had been together since they were very young.
PurplePaintedPony 4 years ago