@milkydud you have to know the history of the prophets .. you know what happened to jesus, moses Mohammad and his family Abraham, ram, almost all the prophets had many challenges to accomplish for the mankind. they had to be influential and an inspirational figure to us so that we can follow the foot steps. it seems that you have a super hero in mind when thinking about such people from the history! yes it amazes you but the reality is more likely to be acceptable than the fiction.
I was not looking for a super hero but ONE example of how to conduct my life...
I find it amazing that Muslim fail to note probability the most known fact of the ancient world that is missing from your religious text... Jesus' death by cross at the hand of roman souldiers... I have yet to find 1 real historian, that believes that Jesus existed, that claims history lied in this fact.
@israelifaggot speaking as a non-religious person who has read the qu'ran i can say that from my reading of it i can easily see how it can be used to justify terrorism. it depicts anyone who is not a muslim as worthless pieces of fuel for the fire. if you are a muslim, then you presumably believe that the qu'ran is the word of god through the prophet. if it truly is the word of an all powerful being then could he not have done a better job of making it clear to people what he meant.
@PHOG1 (1/1 )As someone who was a non-muslim it was clearly understandable to me of how someone who would only read the Quran and study nothing else far as the history of what exactly was going on at that time period would think that the Quran expresses hate toward non-muslims. Sometime people can read the Quran only and accept it as truth while others reject it due to already having preconcieved ideas. I read about different aspects of islam and research answers to questions that of why.
@PHOG1 (1/2) Things was the way as stated until i had complete understanding and this was something i done on my own, not having a muslim at my grasp to question about anything. You failed to understand that somethings you found unfit actually had a legitimate reason but you done no farther research into why. The Quran does not express hate toward non-muslims cause it clearly tells you that taking the life of ANYONE for an UNJUST reason is a great sin.
@thalickerM8 (1) it doesn't do a very good job of explaining what is an UNJUST reason though. the people who have read the qu'ran and use it as their reason for commiting murder believe that them killing the kaffir is JUST. i have read it, and i can understand why they believe this to be the case. that is all i am saying, i am not saying islam is entirely bad, or that it has done no good for the world, i understand that at the time the qu'ran was written it was a step FORWARD from what was..
@PHOG1 (reply to 1) Anyone that use the Quran to justify what they want to do is way off track, for one it does not tell to kill people that don't believe in the same thing but it orders you to fight against those who will fight against you because of your faith or to try an oppress you and even with that it's a must that they are clearly the aggressors. Yeah some muslims fall into ignorance of listening to others who leads them the wrong way but they are accountable for what they do on tha day
@thalickerM8 "(reply to 1) Anyone that use the Quran to justify what they want to do is way off track,"
I am sorry for butting in but please listen.
Surah 4:24 In short, Allah, the All Merciful and Compassionate, is saying, "For you 'Muslims', it's a crime to go after married women, but if they happen to be your captives (which obviously all the non-Muslim women were), then feel free to indulge yourself with them at will and without restraint or inhibition such as rape and sexual torture.
@milkydud And thus he is WRONG. I don't understand this view that "Mohamed says rape is ok, thus, rape is ok"...NO. This is why Islam gets a bad rap, because Mohamed, for all his good ways, historically is known to have raped, pillaged and plundered. Despite the wrathful God of the Old Testament, the legacy of Jesus himself is to never have sinned, and not just in a Christian context but in a Universally moral context. I don't hate Islam, but the religion is only contextually "peaceful"
@thalickerM8 (2) ..happening at the time. the place and time when muhammad was alive was even more violent and fucked up than muslim nations are today, and his teaching gave people some rules they had to live by.. but in the 21st century things are different, and islam today is a much LOWER more UNJUST and UNFAIR system than the status quo. take switzerland for example, one of (maybe THE) most non-religious nation on the planet, and it also has some of the lowest crime rates, murder rates
@PHOG1 (reply to 2 ) Let me explain why they are jacked up today. Prophet Muhammad was what a leader should be and he is the reason many of the ills were almost non-existant. In the prophet as promised told the follower that the future muslims will be ruled by unjust rulers & oppressed in some form by outsiders. Look what's going on today, You have the Sudia, Bahrain, Iraq ect... all in the back pocket of western nations playing by their rules & acting like they are muslim rulers. Con't
@PHOG1 (Con't 2 ) and you have the people that lives within those lands missing their knowledge to blame outsiders for their problem when the cause of their problems is right in there face and on top of that they misuse what's in the Quran to vent their dislike of what is going on...These things that goes on is nothing but a test in this life from God and it's up to the people to deal with it the right way and the right way is not to kill innocent people, but invaders can be delt with.
@thalickerM8 (3) ..and this is not an isolated case. studies have shown consistently that the more religious a country/area is (particularly the abrahamic faiths) the more violent it is and the lower the standards of morality are.
cutting someones hand off for stealing a loaf of bread may have brought some semblance of order to the world in the days of mohammad, but in todays world it is a ridiculous over punishment for a tiny crime.. and the sharia is clear on the issue of theft is it not?
@PHOG1 (reply to 3 ) It's not a tiny crime, it's a crime that if it's punishment is only to pay a fine or spentd a little time in jail produces people that will continue to do the same thing over again & in the USA that person might end up spending years in jail leaving everybody else stiffed with the bill of feeding and housing such people who are then useless to the population and many times people that go from stealing small things move up the ladder of stealing which many times results CONT
@PHOG1 ( cont 3) in the unintentional killing of an innocent person. Cutting someone hand off is a process, IF that person is of age in understanding and had the money to pay but chose not to then his/her hand should be cut off. If some one is hunger and didn't have money and resorted to stealing because no one would feed h/her then nothing can be done to that person. Also the person you stole from has the right to excuse you of stealing if you had the money to pay. If U want your hand d't steal
The Zionst generals of Algeria created the GIA to finish off FIS. They trained special algerian killer forces with the help of american zionists, to kill their own people, women, babies, entire villages of Muslims. Its american zionists training the killer military special forces! They also brought in mercenaries fom Israel and Guatemala.
These mercenaries carry out bomb attacks and blame it on the 'islamic terrorists' called GIA.
All of this is for the sole purpose of using Algeria's oil
Fuck the Islamists and fuck you by the same token. You're an Egyptian son of a whore and such you'll remain, so stop pretending to know anything about Algeria.
I read lot of the comments below. Do you guys think Turkey is an Ok nation with its secular government but muslim population. Its a nice place to visit and has a decent economy based on its own works and not what pours out of the ground. One thing that will not help you all is your exploding populations in many islamic nations(Also in very christian countries,like latin america) and thus the inability to meet the aspirations of too many people. Just too many people to make happy and prosperous.
It's interesting how you mention population growth. Algeria, and other Muslim countries are experiencing a massive drop in birth rates. Ten years ago, Algeria had a 3.27 fertility rate. Now, they have a 1.79 fertility rate.
Satan is running out of Ideas and now they are lost and they can not escape punishment! They are trapped! Allah warned them with the Koran, the great reminder and they did not listen, they failed all tests! They failed to trust Allah, they never served Allah, they served Satan and pretended they are serving the one God Allah; the end of the world is near!
The chief hypocrites the selfish and greedy know that the gangsters in Algeria are dictators and they support them and yet they claim to be democratic, now they can not hide, their crimes and all they did secretly is coming to the surface! They can not fool people with words, now everyone know the power of words and how they are use to brainwash and confuse but the ones who were doing evil secretly has being listening to Satan!
People worldwide did not see the exchange of communication between the gangsters that form the Algerian government the traitors and the chief hypocrites on earth in the west and of course the west gave the Algerian government its full support to kill and torture Algerians unjustly, their crimes will never be forgotten and they will not escape punishment, they are exposed!
Allah is just and deserves to be feared, loved, followed and supported, it is the wise ones that serve Allah and the fools rebel against him and forget that they will grow old and turn weak and frail and die!
This is what the chief hypocrites on earth did to good Algerians, the crimes that the enemies of Islam committed in Algeria and from a distance will never be forgotten! They persecuted the Muslims of Algeria out of envy, they will not succeed, the time for their fall is near, their rise has being prophesised in the Koran and so is their fall, it is the will of Allah, no one can change what Allah want to happen!
What are we supposed to do,put up with oppression and repression and accept to be enslaved?enough is enough,now we know who are our enemies and all Arab and non Arab Muslims know and that is why you find now the fight now is global and will end with the defeat of the soldiers of Satan, Hitler was a punishment from Allah for them and now a worst fate awaits them and there is nothing they can do to avoid punishment for all the crimes they committed in Algeria,in Iraq, in Afghanistan and worldwide!
People must remember that the Muslims are not free to develop and they are imprisoned unjustly,they are repressed and oppressed and the ones who cause the disorder in Algeria is the murderers from the Algerian government and all their supporters who claimed to be Muslims and went around murdering unjustly,the West and America killed and tortured good Algerians through their instruments,they protect the chosen servants of Satan the Zionists, they are exposed and will fall,the fight is now global!
This is what the chief hypocrites the Zionists and the Christians who are not fit to call themselves Christians, they should call themselves Satanians, it is not Islam to blame it is the corruption of the ones supported by the West and America, now the battle is global and the net is closing on the chief hypocrites on earth, their crimes will never be forgotten, now it has become perfectly legal to murder and persecute the followers of Islam, the traitors will fall!
The crimes committed in Algeria were committed by the Zionists the arrogant, the chief hypocrites on earth from a distance, they will all get the punishment they deserve, Allah will use the oil they are stealing as a fuel to burn them in hell! The war that will end all wars has begun! The criminals asked for it! Now it is clearly the soldiers of Satan against the soldiers of Allah, the net is closing on the murderers! It is Allah's will, Allah is real and the prophesy is being fulfilled!
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Malwina77ful 3 months ago
Every single country that Islam dominates is fucked up. Islam is fucked up.
mambosdapenguin 1 year ago
TO ALL MY MUSLIM FRIENDS, I HAVE ONE SIMPLE QUESTION:
Are Prophets ranked *spiritually* higher than an average person?
OR
Does God/allah bless Prophets more than an average person?
milkydud 1 year ago
@milkydud prophets are allah 's blessings on you and your parents and to our ancestors ...
Shujahyder79 6 months ago
@Shujahyder79 "prophets are Allah's blessing"
Ok, that's understood.
But are prophets more favored by God than regular humans.
If yes, how can we live our life as influenced/imulated by a prophet when we*regular humans* will not be judged Like them*prophets*?
milkydud 6 months ago
@milkydud you have to know the history of the prophets .. you know what happened to jesus, moses Mohammad and his family Abraham, ram, almost all the prophets had many challenges to accomplish for the mankind. they had to be influential and an inspirational figure to us so that we can follow the foot steps. it seems that you have a super hero in mind when thinking about such people from the history! yes it amazes you but the reality is more likely to be acceptable than the fiction.
Shujahyder79 6 months ago
@Shujahyder79
Agreed.
I was not looking for a super hero but ONE example of how to conduct my life...
I find it amazing that Muslim fail to note probability the most known fact of the ancient world that is missing from your religious text... Jesus' death by cross at the hand of roman souldiers... I have yet to find 1 real historian, that believes that Jesus existed, that claims history lied in this fact.
milkydud 6 months ago
its sick whats happening in algeria, terrorism is not Islam, and Islam is not terrorism.
israelifaggot 1 year ago
@israelifaggot speaking as a non-religious person who has read the qu'ran i can say that from my reading of it i can easily see how it can be used to justify terrorism. it depicts anyone who is not a muslim as worthless pieces of fuel for the fire. if you are a muslim, then you presumably believe that the qu'ran is the word of god through the prophet. if it truly is the word of an all powerful being then could he not have done a better job of making it clear to people what he meant.
PHOG1 1 year ago
@PHOG1 (1/1 )As someone who was a non-muslim it was clearly understandable to me of how someone who would only read the Quran and study nothing else far as the history of what exactly was going on at that time period would think that the Quran expresses hate toward non-muslims. Sometime people can read the Quran only and accept it as truth while others reject it due to already having preconcieved ideas. I read about different aspects of islam and research answers to questions that of why.
thalickerM8 1 year ago
@PHOG1 (1/2) Things was the way as stated until i had complete understanding and this was something i done on my own, not having a muslim at my grasp to question about anything. You failed to understand that somethings you found unfit actually had a legitimate reason but you done no farther research into why. The Quran does not express hate toward non-muslims cause it clearly tells you that taking the life of ANYONE for an UNJUST reason is a great sin.
thalickerM8 1 year ago
@thalickerM8 (1) it doesn't do a very good job of explaining what is an UNJUST reason though. the people who have read the qu'ran and use it as their reason for commiting murder believe that them killing the kaffir is JUST. i have read it, and i can understand why they believe this to be the case. that is all i am saying, i am not saying islam is entirely bad, or that it has done no good for the world, i understand that at the time the qu'ran was written it was a step FORWARD from what was..
PHOG1 1 year ago
@PHOG1 (reply to 1) Anyone that use the Quran to justify what they want to do is way off track, for one it does not tell to kill people that don't believe in the same thing but it orders you to fight against those who will fight against you because of your faith or to try an oppress you and even with that it's a must that they are clearly the aggressors. Yeah some muslims fall into ignorance of listening to others who leads them the wrong way but they are accountable for what they do on tha day
thalickerM8 1 year ago
@thalickerM8 "(reply to 1) Anyone that use the Quran to justify what they want to do is way off track,"
I am sorry for butting in but please listen.
Surah 4:24 In short, Allah, the All Merciful and Compassionate, is saying, "For you 'Muslims', it's a crime to go after married women, but if they happen to be your captives (which obviously all the non-Muslim women were), then feel free to indulge yourself with them at will and without restraint or inhibition such as rape and sexual torture.
milkydud 1 year ago
@milkydud And thus he is WRONG. I don't understand this view that "Mohamed says rape is ok, thus, rape is ok"...NO. This is why Islam gets a bad rap, because Mohamed, for all his good ways, historically is known to have raped, pillaged and plundered. Despite the wrathful God of the Old Testament, the legacy of Jesus himself is to never have sinned, and not just in a Christian context but in a Universally moral context. I don't hate Islam, but the religion is only contextually "peaceful"
HealeyIRA5 11 months ago
@thalickerM8 (2) ..happening at the time. the place and time when muhammad was alive was even more violent and fucked up than muslim nations are today, and his teaching gave people some rules they had to live by.. but in the 21st century things are different, and islam today is a much LOWER more UNJUST and UNFAIR system than the status quo. take switzerland for example, one of (maybe THE) most non-religious nation on the planet, and it also has some of the lowest crime rates, murder rates
PHOG1 1 year ago
@PHOG1 (reply to 2 ) Let me explain why they are jacked up today. Prophet Muhammad was what a leader should be and he is the reason many of the ills were almost non-existant. In the prophet as promised told the follower that the future muslims will be ruled by unjust rulers & oppressed in some form by outsiders. Look what's going on today, You have the Sudia, Bahrain, Iraq ect... all in the back pocket of western nations playing by their rules & acting like they are muslim rulers. Con't
thalickerM8 1 year ago
@PHOG1 (Con't 2 ) and you have the people that lives within those lands missing their knowledge to blame outsiders for their problem when the cause of their problems is right in there face and on top of that they misuse what's in the Quran to vent their dislike of what is going on...These things that goes on is nothing but a test in this life from God and it's up to the people to deal with it the right way and the right way is not to kill innocent people, but invaders can be delt with.
thalickerM8 1 year ago
@thalickerM8 (3) ..and this is not an isolated case. studies have shown consistently that the more religious a country/area is (particularly the abrahamic faiths) the more violent it is and the lower the standards of morality are.
cutting someones hand off for stealing a loaf of bread may have brought some semblance of order to the world in the days of mohammad, but in todays world it is a ridiculous over punishment for a tiny crime.. and the sharia is clear on the issue of theft is it not?
PHOG1 1 year ago
@PHOG1 (reply to 3 ) It's not a tiny crime, it's a crime that if it's punishment is only to pay a fine or spentd a little time in jail produces people that will continue to do the same thing over again & in the USA that person might end up spending years in jail leaving everybody else stiffed with the bill of feeding and housing such people who are then useless to the population and many times people that go from stealing small things move up the ladder of stealing which many times results CONT
thalickerM8 1 year ago
@PHOG1 ( cont 3) in the unintentional killing of an innocent person. Cutting someone hand off is a process, IF that person is of age in understanding and had the money to pay but chose not to then his/her hand should be cut off. If some one is hunger and didn't have money and resorted to stealing because no one would feed h/her then nothing can be done to that person. Also the person you stole from has the right to excuse you of stealing if you had the money to pay. If U want your hand d't steal
thalickerM8 1 year ago
The Zionst generals of Algeria created the GIA to finish off FIS. They trained special algerian killer forces with the help of american zionists, to kill their own people, women, babies, entire villages of Muslims. Its american zionists training the killer military special forces! They also brought in mercenaries fom Israel and Guatemala.
These mercenaries carry out bomb attacks and blame it on the 'islamic terrorists' called GIA.
All of this is for the sole purpose of using Algeria's oil
musa78692 1 year ago
@musa78692
Fuck the Islamists and fuck you by the same token. You're an Egyptian son of a whore and such you'll remain, so stop pretending to know anything about Algeria.
Nik soua taa mok ya lmasri!!
algeroisify 1 year ago
@musa78692 What's happening as islamic terrorism in the world including your country, Egypt, is it by the Zionist generals of Algeria? moron.
catzohra 1 year ago
all killings are by the govt. The zionist govt og algeria does every killing and bombing and blames it on 'islamic terrotists'.
musa78692 1 year ago
@musa78692
What the fuck does a cunt like you know about Algeria?
Nahrak hatchoum yamak ya noksh!!
algeroisify 1 year ago
I read lot of the comments below. Do you guys think Turkey is an Ok nation with its secular government but muslim population. Its a nice place to visit and has a decent economy based on its own works and not what pours out of the ground. One thing that will not help you all is your exploding populations in many islamic nations(Also in very christian countries,like latin america) and thus the inability to meet the aspirations of too many people. Just too many people to make happy and prosperous.
TOMHBOMB1963 3 years ago
It's interesting how you mention population growth. Algeria, and other Muslim countries are experiencing a massive drop in birth rates. Ten years ago, Algeria had a 3.27 fertility rate. Now, they have a 1.79 fertility rate.
EndlessChris 2 years ago
Victory is for the real Muslims who are being victimised unjustly and has been victimised throughout the centuries! The past will never be forgotten!
Algerian1978 3 years ago
The only victory that Islam affords is mutually assured destruction of each other once all infidels are either dead or living in servitude.
AnsaralZindiqi 2 years ago
Victory is for the real Muslims who are being victims unjustly and has been victimised throughout the centuries! The past will never be forgotten!
Algerian1978 3 years ago 2
Satan is running out of Ideas and now they are lost and they can not escape punishment! They are trapped! Allah warned them with the Koran, the great reminder and they did not listen, they failed all tests! They failed to trust Allah, they never served Allah, they served Satan and pretended they are serving the one God Allah; the end of the world is near!
Algerian1978 3 years ago
I Dont think u should trust God, lol.
He seems pretty much dead and gone):
besmb2105 2 years ago
The chief hypocrites the selfish and greedy know that the gangsters in Algeria are dictators and they support them and yet they claim to be democratic, now they can not hide, their crimes and all they did secretly is coming to the surface! They can not fool people with words, now everyone know the power of words and how they are use to brainwash and confuse but the ones who were doing evil secretly has being listening to Satan!
Algerian1978 3 years ago 2
People worldwide did not see the exchange of communication between the gangsters that form the Algerian government the traitors and the chief hypocrites on earth in the west and of course the west gave the Algerian government its full support to kill and torture Algerians unjustly, their crimes will never be forgotten and they will not escape punishment, they are exposed!
Algerian1978 3 years ago
Allah is just and deserves to be feared, loved, followed and supported, it is the wise ones that serve Allah and the fools rebel against him and forget that they will grow old and turn weak and frail and die!
Algerian1978 3 years ago
This is what the chief hypocrites on earth did to good Algerians, the crimes that the enemies of Islam committed in Algeria and from a distance will never be forgotten! They persecuted the Muslims of Algeria out of envy, they will not succeed, the time for their fall is near, their rise has being prophesised in the Koran and so is their fall, it is the will of Allah, no one can change what Allah want to happen!
Algerian1978 3 years ago 2
What are we supposed to do,put up with oppression and repression and accept to be enslaved?enough is enough,now we know who are our enemies and all Arab and non Arab Muslims know and that is why you find now the fight now is global and will end with the defeat of the soldiers of Satan, Hitler was a punishment from Allah for them and now a worst fate awaits them and there is nothing they can do to avoid punishment for all the crimes they committed in Algeria,in Iraq, in Afghanistan and worldwide!
Algerian1978 3 years ago
People must remember that the Muslims are not free to develop and they are imprisoned unjustly,they are repressed and oppressed and the ones who cause the disorder in Algeria is the murderers from the Algerian government and all their supporters who claimed to be Muslims and went around murdering unjustly,the West and America killed and tortured good Algerians through their instruments,they protect the chosen servants of Satan the Zionists, they are exposed and will fall,the fight is now global!
Algerian1978 3 years ago
This is what the chief hypocrites the Zionists and the Christians who are not fit to call themselves Christians, they should call themselves Satanians, it is not Islam to blame it is the corruption of the ones supported by the West and America, now the battle is global and the net is closing on the chief hypocrites on earth, their crimes will never be forgotten, now it has become perfectly legal to murder and persecute the followers of Islam, the traitors will fall!
Algerian1978 3 years ago
The crimes committed in Algeria were committed by the Zionists the arrogant, the chief hypocrites on earth from a distance, they will all get the punishment they deserve, Allah will use the oil they are stealing as a fuel to burn them in hell! The war that will end all wars has begun! The criminals asked for it! Now it is clearly the soldiers of Satan against the soldiers of Allah, the net is closing on the murderers! It is Allah's will, Allah is real and the prophesy is being fulfilled!
Algerian1978 3 years ago