Iaido is not considered kenjutsu even by Wikipedia. I think ur thinking of iaijutsu BTW. I don't think u can understand something as complex as iaido without study ie not Wikipedia, try reading books on Japanese sword play. Than it wont look as bad when u type ur misinformed quotes.
The only thing flawed is ur logic. Niten isn't kenjutsu nor is iaido or iaijutsu. Ur just butt hurt because kendo fencing is not at all an accurate depiction of Japanese swordplay. You even said it yourself look up iaijutsu or iaido
@TheWizardofGore omg why don't u look it up! they're all under kenjutsu as categories, and I could care less about the accuracy of Kendo because i'm not a Kendoka! I'm arguing with u because u made mocked something many people train hard to become good at and that's an asshole thing to do!
@DespairIIIX but their not all under kenjutsu. Also I never mocked anything I simply stated my opinion and you got but hurt than agreed than got but hurt again. Even if u want all styles of Japanese sword play to be kenjutsu their not, even Wikipedia "its editable" says so.
LOL I don't understand this. I'd reminds me of Knight style fighting not Japanese so much. Seeing two people do this with live Japanese blade would be sad. Blade shards allover. U never block with Japanese swords like this, rather evade or parry. I'm not sure if this is even connected with an art. If so what style is it connected to? I've seen a niten style fencer but I can't tell what these dudes do. Kenjutsu?
@DespairIIIX lol this is not an accurate form of any kenjutsu I've ever seen. If this is how they fought battles they better bring five swords along. BTW kendo is not the "sport version of kenjutsu" stupid. Kenjutsu is a style of swordplay kendo is a sport, I've seen niten kendo fencers. LOL Dont comment if u don't even know kendo from real swordplay kid
@TheWizardofGore kenjutsu is not A style of swordplay u retard. kenjutsu is art or technique of the sword. there are hundreds of ryu of kenjutsu, so there is NO specific style when refering to kenjutsu idiot, unless u state the specific style. Kendo IS a sport version of a form of Kenjutsu. SPORT there is a difference! i agree with the bringing 5 swords along but they aren't going to because guess wat, it's a SPORT! i've also seen niten kendokas and they're legit, but don't downgrade a SPORT
@DespairIIIX so u think all Japanese swordplay is kenjutsu. U use it to generally, iai and ken are completely separate arts as is nitojutsu. Kenjutsu is a style of Japanese sword play from hundreds of schools with hundreds of school names that all generally use two handed sword techniques. Musashi didn't call it kenjutsu so its not lol
@TheWizardofGore yes i do think all japanese sword techniques are under kenjutsu as it literally translates to sword techniques aha. As for the arts such iaido i consider under kenjutsu as kenjutsu is a VERY broad term, not stating specific styles eg. kendo, iaido etc. nitojutsu and iaido are specifics to kenjutsu. Styles individually, Kenjutsu as a whole. i also like comparing this to ninjutsu being a broad term, with taijutsu or shinobi-iri only part of the historical curriculum.
@TheWizardofGore and by the way, Musashi's Niten Ichi-ryu style of 2 sword techniques is classified under Kenjutsu, just to prove a point. And nito-ryu style of sword techniques were nothing new, and was used long before Musashi. He is my icon, a hero you could say, but using him to prove a point is flawed
For the couple of years I fell for that false hope. Even though I'm still tempted now I only try it against people worse than me or people with a particularly heavy backfoot.
I've only ever won a handfull of points against people better with me with a tsuki. That wasn't because they were open, it was because I alternated my breathing method to throw them off. Tsuki requires complete dominance over what the other person thinks you're going to do, without that it's just beaten.
I never meant I do go for it, I have never actually attempted a tsuki, I've been doing a kendo for less than a year myself, and as I'm so inexperienced in fencing, I often find it hard to find weaknesses in another's kamae. I have a lot to learn still, as any of us do. I think for now I'm just trying to learn how to put pressure on an opponent mentally. But easier said than done. To them I'm still a total beginner haha.
That's the problem with tsuki, it's hard to learn how seeing as every attempt is pretty dangerous, a few clubs even make it dan grade only. Never thought of trying to cancel their hits out with it, but then again I think very little during a fence except. "I hate dan grades" over, and over in my head, haha.
from that angle it looks good. But from where we were sitting we were like what was that? Also notice that the judge who has the best view is not giving it.
Both of u r queers
volcomxl1080 4 months ago
Iaido is not considered kenjutsu even by Wikipedia. I think ur thinking of iaijutsu BTW. I don't think u can understand something as complex as iaido without study ie not Wikipedia, try reading books on Japanese sword play. Than it wont look as bad when u type ur misinformed quotes.
TheWizardofGore 5 months ago
The only thing flawed is ur logic. Niten isn't kenjutsu nor is iaido or iaijutsu. Ur just butt hurt because kendo fencing is not at all an accurate depiction of Japanese swordplay. You even said it yourself look up iaijutsu or iaido
TheWizardofGore 5 months ago
@TheWizardofGore omg why don't u look it up! they're all under kenjutsu as categories, and I could care less about the accuracy of Kendo because i'm not a Kendoka! I'm arguing with u because u made mocked something many people train hard to become good at and that's an asshole thing to do!
DespairIIIX 5 months ago
@DespairIIIX but their not all under kenjutsu. Also I never mocked anything I simply stated my opinion and you got but hurt than agreed than got but hurt again. Even if u want all styles of Japanese sword play to be kenjutsu their not, even Wikipedia "its editable" says so.
TheWizardofGore 5 months ago
Can't u read?
TheWizardofGore 5 months ago
LOL I don't understand this. I'd reminds me of Knight style fighting not Japanese so much. Seeing two people do this with live Japanese blade would be sad. Blade shards allover. U never block with Japanese swords like this, rather evade or parry. I'm not sure if this is even connected with an art. If so what style is it connected to? I've seen a niten style fencer but I can't tell what these dudes do. Kenjutsu?
TheWizardofGore 5 months ago
@TheWizardofGore obviously......it's kendo......sport version of actual kenjutsu......don't comment when your so ignorant.
DespairIIIX 5 months ago
@DespairIIIX lol this is not an accurate form of any kenjutsu I've ever seen. If this is how they fought battles they better bring five swords along. BTW kendo is not the "sport version of kenjutsu" stupid. Kenjutsu is a style of swordplay kendo is a sport, I've seen niten kendo fencers. LOL Dont comment if u don't even know kendo from real swordplay kid
TheWizardofGore 5 months ago
@TheWizardofGore kenjutsu is not A style of swordplay u retard. kenjutsu is art or technique of the sword. there are hundreds of ryu of kenjutsu, so there is NO specific style when refering to kenjutsu idiot, unless u state the specific style. Kendo IS a sport version of a form of Kenjutsu. SPORT there is a difference! i agree with the bringing 5 swords along but they aren't going to because guess wat, it's a SPORT! i've also seen niten kendokas and they're legit, but don't downgrade a SPORT
DespairIIIX 5 months ago
@DespairIIIX so u think all Japanese swordplay is kenjutsu. U use it to generally, iai and ken are completely separate arts as is nitojutsu. Kenjutsu is a style of Japanese sword play from hundreds of schools with hundreds of school names that all generally use two handed sword techniques. Musashi didn't call it kenjutsu so its not lol
TheWizardofGore 5 months ago
@TheWizardofGore yes i do think all japanese sword techniques are under kenjutsu as it literally translates to sword techniques aha. As for the arts such iaido i consider under kenjutsu as kenjutsu is a VERY broad term, not stating specific styles eg. kendo, iaido etc. nitojutsu and iaido are specifics to kenjutsu. Styles individually, Kenjutsu as a whole. i also like comparing this to ninjutsu being a broad term, with taijutsu or shinobi-iri only part of the historical curriculum.
DespairIIIX 5 months ago
@TheWizardofGore and by the way, Musashi's Niten Ichi-ryu style of 2 sword techniques is classified under Kenjutsu, just to prove a point. And nito-ryu style of sword techniques were nothing new, and was used long before Musashi. He is my icon, a hero you could say, but using him to prove a point is flawed
DespairIIIX 5 months ago
@DespairIIIX look it up turd
TheWizardofGore 5 months ago
That's a amazing tsuki, it's very hard to make it like that. it was fast and acurate
zenaku85 1 year ago
that crazy LOL very nice one
zenaku85 1 year ago
2:14 is a men
1:40 is a tsuki
Kendokid101 1 year ago 11
Men or tsuki?
natcaasi 1 year ago
this guy is not notmal...
eslee 2 years ago
I would say the men was more impressive, didn't like that tsuki much.
ihaterobbie123 2 years ago 5
I agree. Don't you find when you fence, and your opponent leaves no openings, you just want to go for a tsuki for an easy point?
Beckettlol 2 years ago
@Beckettlol
For the couple of years I fell for that false hope. Even though I'm still tempted now I only try it against people worse than me or people with a particularly heavy backfoot.
I've only ever won a handfull of points against people better with me with a tsuki. That wasn't because they were open, it was because I alternated my breathing method to throw them off. Tsuki requires complete dominance over what the other person thinks you're going to do, without that it's just beaten.
ihaterobbie123 2 years ago
@ihaterobbie123
I never meant I do go for it, I have never actually attempted a tsuki, I've been doing a kendo for less than a year myself, and as I'm so inexperienced in fencing, I often find it hard to find weaknesses in another's kamae. I have a lot to learn still, as any of us do. I think for now I'm just trying to learn how to put pressure on an opponent mentally. But easier said than done. To them I'm still a total beginner haha.
Beckettlol 2 years ago
@Beckettlol
If you suck at tsuki and make quite a few dangerous attempts, the refs can call a hansoku on you
I personally just do mune tsuki when I'm tired and want to cancel their hits (although some refs still let your opponents have the point)
An1mePhreak 2 years ago
That's the problem with tsuki, it's hard to learn how seeing as every attempt is pretty dangerous, a few clubs even make it dan grade only. Never thought of trying to cancel their hits out with it, but then again I think very little during a fence except. "I hate dan grades" over, and over in my head, haha.
Beckettlol 2 years ago
it hit and it didnt miss the other judge prolly thought there wasn't enough "fighting spirit" in the strike
HeroOfXanadus 4 years ago
from that angle it looks good. But from where we were sitting we were like what was that? Also notice that the judge who has the best view is not giving it.
kotachan112 4 years ago
Look like a hit to me =\
Hyaeon 4 years ago
that tsuki was missed actually.
kotachan112 4 years ago