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  • I think ye should have a look at all the Big armies. The countries are usually poor or in debt example. The US is in 13 trillion debt

    Russia has a large army but no infrastructre

    China is a 2nd world country the same as Russia and alot of eastern european and African countries. I dont think its logical to have a large Military

  • @jackoconnor24111

    China does not have (if compared to population) very large military.

  • @PolishPatriot we had an army and armoured vehicles in 1922 onwards ye had a few boy scouts on horses with muskets

  • I'd prefer if Ireland had 0 soldiers, and every other country had the same amount. You all know what armies are for, so why are you boasting about how big your countries is? "My country has the power to inflict terrible terrible destruction onto others, I'm so fucking cool aren't I?" Please... grow up you fucking war mongering ignorant faggots. Its because of people like you that war still exists.

  • @DylanBobMr Well in an ideal world there would be no war. But even on our own wee Isle we have active extremist and paramilitary groups and significant organised crime gangs. These groups all have an ability to destabilize a state especially during times of economic stress. Armies in most cases are insurance policies against chaos. In our case it ensures the citizenry have a bigger stick than any potential lunatic fringe.

  • @ado75 Potential lunatic fringes are what we need. All governments are corrupt and need to be challenged. The government can do what they like because they have the armies behind them. Wars are against these citizenries, these are the ones who die and suffer, not protecting them, thats my issue.

  • actualy we have 8,000 troops, and man for man are better than their polish counterpart. Also the brits and americans protect ireland, so please polish patriot (who is probaly living in ireland beacuse poland is dirt poor) shut it!!!

  • @ClassicTossPot dada, go back playing mw2

  • @ClassicTossPot GOOD ON YA MAN

  • Irish army has only around 20 000 soldiers LOL

  • @PolishPatriot2010 why do we need more? were neutral we do peace keeping you dont need 450,000 to keep the peace 

  • @PolishPatriot2010 We actually have 8,000 soldiers, whats your point? The BIG Polish army did a great job keeping out the Nazis and then the Soviets, LOL. Polish army - as much fighting spirit as a wet paper bag.

  • @ado75 we have 25,000 soldiers and 15,000 reserves

  • @12345TheRonan For the record. Army = 8,500 max, Aer Corps = 800, Naval Service = 1200 (approx figures). Even when I was in the FCA 20 years ago there may have been 25,000 on the books but the active reserve was about 12 - 15,000 and it has been considerably streamlined since then. You don't need a freedom of information request for these figures as they are public knowledge.

  • @ado75 sure sure, at least poland wasn't 700 years under britain. irish - as much fighting spirit as wet toilet paper

  • @PolishPatriot2010 Yeah the Irish Army dont get hand me downs from the US... oh but whats size got to do with it. Its the quality and moral of the army not the numbers. Look at the polish army is it a conscript force? Yes I think it is meaning that 80% of the army personal had to be draged in to serve in it.

  • @bountyc at least in ireland were not forced to join the army so fuck off you stupid pole

  • @PolishPatriot2010 Have of Poland lives in Ireland, there's more Polish people on the street than natives.

    Everywhere I go I see drunken Polish, McDonalds is full of Polish women.

  • Mowag Piranha IIIH swiitzerland made?

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  • Just because someone is a civilian does not mean they know less about the miltary than military personnel. Ask anyone that works for Janes Information Group.

  • @TheEamonster i understand that now. i was definitely mis-informed

  • @clarkeyladDF mis-informed my arse... who are you? and how did you get my password!! i havnt used the account in 3 months and i come back and find someone pretending to be me pasting crap all over the internet! i am the real clarkeyladDF and stopped using my account a long time ago!! those comments are not mine! im not a soldier, im not even a reservist! im a 2* in the RDF and that dirt was not written by me!!! >:@

  • look everyone, i made some bad comments here and i know i was wrong on a lot of things i said! i AM sorry! it appears the things i have seen as regards pdf training are not what i thought they were as some pdf members have pointed out.

    once again, im sorry. and also to some people, i have never been informed of the DF's internet policies

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  • @clarkeyladDF

    More numbers is a def. I think that more elite regiment forces are also required. as well as more special forces.

    Having just a small number of irish rangers is not enough and it is not flexible enough.

    We have a navy but no specialist trained navy forces and you have pointed out the air force.

    Having a marine core would be a good idea.

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  • @clarkeyladDF

    Sorry to burst your bubble but Ireland does not have any near to a specialist trained infantry.

    To claim that an average Irish soldier is as elite as an average special forces is laughable.

    and then to say that an Irish sailor is equal to a marine that is even more laughable.

    Ireland has a combine total of 8500 defence forces. and only a very small fraction of that has real specialist training.

    100 or so special force is not enough for modern warfare defence.

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  • @clarkeyladDF

    Peace keeping duties do not compare to operations standard special forces.

    For you to claim that a reg navy (irish) that is of a peace lay force is naive at best.

    It is also of irrelevance for me to claim if i am a civ or not as you cannot prove nor can I.

    But back on topic please give more details on why you think that the irish navy is as good as a commando.

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  • @clarkeyladDF you claim to be a soldier, but how can you be so clueless about your own army? I laughed out loud reading your comments once again. Our proud soldiers are actually trained comedians!

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  • @clarkeyladDF

    naval servie personal is not trianed like the infantry corps

    they are trained in the basics that any other army around world would do

    our infantry trains trains like the US rangers due to our own ranger wing but not to the same degree, while our army is better trainsed than others and on par with the big ones

    our infantry corps is not like a special forceor elitle infantry

    our bomb disposal one of the best

    (coming from someone who knows his stuff ;) )

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  • @clarkeyladDF

    I thought you were a soldier and in the infantry? Your in the Reserves.

    Why are you saying your a soldier?.

    Im sorry I thought I was responding to a soldiers comment. You cant verify your comment then, the reserves dont train like regular soldiers so you cant verify your comments on how irish soldiers train.

    Please dont reply to me anymore

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  • @clarkeyladDF

    your reserve

    i know for a fact the training the real army does is nothing compared to what you think it is

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  • @clarkeyladDF

    Sailors are trained like marines? What army are you in?

    They do a BASIC recruit training like anyone else in the IrishDF. So by your calculations that would mean the Equestrian Grooms (Stable Boys) that take care of the Defence Forces horses are some sort of Amazing Super Killing Grooms that would beat the shit out of any ordinary marine.

    For, my friend, a groom does 10 weeks more military training than our Naval Service Sailor/marine.

    Get off the net and read a book sometime

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  • @clarkeyladDF

    Oh my God your a sandbag! You have no right to call anyone a civi!

    Hang your head in shame. What are you? 17? Sitll in school?

    What grounds can you judge recruit training on if you havent even done one!

    I think I should be the one to tell you as I am actually a real soldier. Your not in an army, your not in the infantry and your not a soldier. Its idiots like you that give the FCA a bad name. A-Company, 56th Battalion sure as hell dont train "Marines". My god you are pathetic

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  • @clarkeyladDF

    If you have never done the training your cant comment on it.

    Im not even going to start going into it, 'see landings' are part of DIBUA/FIBUA and its done in Fort Davis.

    When people question your comments you throw out that your in the DF. And that your a soldier. But your a reservist so you cant back up your comments. Join the Army and then go to Fort Davis and do the FIBUA training and see how much of an elite soldier/marine you are.

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  • @clarkeyladDF

    No, we're not.

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  • @clarkeyladDF

    Im a serving PDF member, your full of shit.

  • @clarkeyladDF

    Sir, if you are a member of the Reserve Defence Forces then you should well be aware of the DF policy with reference to media and internet comments.

    I have copied this page and all comments made by you and am forwarding same to the HQ of the 56th Reserve BN.

  • @TheNOMISS im not aware!?

    can you explaine i have never been told about any of this? all i know is we're not aloud upload videos/images of us with weapons

  • @clarkeyladDF

    I am also a serving PDF member and a former member of the RDF, and it is people like you who give the organisation a bad name. You stated you are a soldier and that it was your job, but your not and it isn't.

    The RDF is plagued with Walter Mitty's and dreamers who take up any opportunity to force their opinion on others. However, those opionions are usually wrong and misguided.

    I hope TheNOMISS forwards your comments on to your relevant command.

  • I hate the way people are commenting telling us our army should have tanks and an air force, honestly what do you want us to do about it,?? If I had my way WE'd have harriers and leclercs, but its not so tell it to our government.

  • i have nothing aganist the polish ppl but itz just the are comming onto videos like this and taken the mick outta de pdf and rdf and has anyone noticed its only the poles and the brits??? .......................suspici­ous

  • Mowag Piranha is a good vehicle, but come on! Irish army has no tanks, so it can not be a strong force.

  • @MichalZajac100 the irish army has Scorpion tanks and thats all we need. Do you think Ireland really needs something along the lines of the Challenger, Leopard or Abrams? Not a hope

  • i like your point why spend say 50 million to by a tank to destroy another when we have the javlin which each round costs around 50 thousend euro and can destroy any armor on todays battle field!

  • the jav is a great weapon, along with the 84mm, US Special Forces (or marines) use it and they wont want crap

  • Javlin cannot destroy every armour on the battle feild. Plus, before armour strikes, Fighter aircraft fly in a pound the battle feild with many 1,000lb bombs.

    Hence most of those soilders with Javlins are long gone. Then what? a hand full of troops with Javlins are gonna take out a division of armourd tanks and IFVs? I dont think so.

    Tanks are the teeth and arms of the battle feild. Plus the Irish DF is only in place to give armed resistance untill UK and US troops arive (UK uses javlin)

  • why do you think we need tanks?

  • @thechamprug To store that delicious Guinness?

  • @michalzajac100 the reason the Irish Defence forces have no tanks is because of the countryside itz to hilly

  • The reason the Irish army has no tanks is because they use hit and run tactics.

    The troop selection for the full time army is a night mare.Las year 2300 people applied for the Army Ranger Wing.3 people were deemed fit enough to start training and only 1 passed the training!

    Man for man,these guys are unstopable.

  • one of the main reasons the Irish army dosn't have any tanks or heavy artillery. is because the government wont fund it. plus its a neutral country theses no real reason to have any thing bigger than a mowag.

  • get along people no need to have race wars.

  • as the Irish would say thie is Savage or class................shame you dont have bugger kit though.....nothing better than tanks etc or heavy artillary do you have light artillary?

  • yes we have 105mm howitzers im so sick of people making fun of the irish army becuase we dont have tanks and shit.

  • howitzers are good, we have the same in the British Army.

    the Irish army has a few light scorpian tanks you bought from the british army.

  • yep we do

  • Mowags are good, infact im quite jelous of these.

    British army could do with around 600 of these

    our 800 warriors IFV are extreamly heavy etc as they are to support heavy tank regs in combat

    so when the need arrises for quick reaction they are too heavy for air lift

    the mowag on the other hand is perfect

  • Yes, Irish army doesn't have any main battle tanks or heavy artillery, 105mm is very old and almost useless today. That is why Poland uses 122mm and 152mm howitzers :)

  • then tell me y do the americans and the british still use them if they are useless and tbh they both do the same jobs :)

  • I do not know what the USA or British army use, but I know that Polish officers have chosen to replace the old small caliber artillery with 122mm and 152mm howitzers. 105mm is very crappy when compared to 122mm or 152mm howitzers, Irish army has no serious firepower.

  • The Irish army use Howitzers too but these a light infantry tanks.Our army is based on the strength of our soldier,not our equipment.

    Ireland is a filthy rich country and we could afford all the top of the line vehicles / jets etc But the fact of the matter is that the Irish army is a small elite force.Irish people who dont pass selection generally join the English army.

    It just goes to show that if the English army take soldiers we deem to be useless, who has the better troops?

  • The Brtiish army still has better trained troops. Just because the selection process for the irish army is hard does'nt mean that the traing is better. The whole point of the training is to take civvies who are as you might say "useless" take them apart and then build them up into proper soldiers.

    And ireland migth well be able to afford all of the tip of the line vehicles, but the fact of the matter is they dont do that kind of fighting, and there is no reason naybody would attack them.

  • Emm as a matter of fact they arent.

    A friend of my brothers has joined the British army (hes Irish, you guys are taking in everyone) and he was originally trained with the Irish army but was forced to leave due to the training.

    The British army dont do parachute jumps,deep sea diving,a vehicle combat and sniping for all of your troops eg sniping isnt thought to tank drivers in the British army.

    In the Irish army you have to be fully trained in all areas.We have pilots who are better snipers.

  • Yeah but thats because the irish army is only 9000 strong. Ever heard the old saying "Jack of all trades, master of none".The British army has over 150+ trades, so im sure IDF soldiers are better trained then say chefs, but say the paras or royal marines? the British army is recognised around the world as having the best training. Im not saying that irish troops are shit, but the kind of operations that the british army and irish army undertake are worlds apart and the training represents this.

  • Then why is it,that ARW members are highly sought for after their spree at the Ranger wing?

    GIGN,US Rangers,Delta Force,GSG 9,COMSUBIN and SSG....They are all trained by ex ARW and current ARW members.

  • And they arent a jack of all trades master of none.

    They have to be FULLY qualified in all areas.They can do any type of mission needed with little notice because they are so well trained.

  • And do oyu actually have any first hand experiance of traning for either?

  • @Aliasify why are you talking about the IDF (israel defence forces) they have no relevance to the conversation.

  • Im not, im t alking about the IDF the IRish Defence Forces

  • Well the IDF is Israel Defence Forces. Ireland is the PDF (permanent defence forces) or the RDF (reserve defence forces)

  • Well its just noramlly known as the defence forces, and seeing as the discussion was regarding the defence forces of ireland andy one with half a brain would of looked at the context of the discussion and recognised that i was not talking andout the isreal defence forces. IDF also stands for Intel Development forum. In futre prehaps you should pay more attention

  • I know who you were on about, its called sarcasm. (admittedly its hard to put across online) well why didnt you call it the DF then? anyone with half a brain would have looked at the context of the discussion and realised you mean the Defence Forces (to quote you) Its not known as the IDF within the military community, its known as the PDF, RDF, DF, Defence Forces or Irish Army.

  • Paddy, wait up there. I was in both arimes. The Brits have the benefit of equipment and numbers, but the training is not as intensive as the Irish. They can progress to different arms after basic and there they train to specialise. Their Paras and Marines are superb soldiers, but not terribly intellectual. The Irish army has better educated soldiers, and a gretater use of high tech equipment. They all cross train on each others jobs within their Corps. They qualify as expert in all their trades.

  • @Aliasify not really. the irish period of training is longer meaning we can go more in depth in certain areas, areas that are important to the missions we do.

    the two different forces are trained for separate things

  • Yes, the University taught you that well, that you have to come onto Irish Army youtube posts and tell everyone about it.

    And according to you, Polish people, you've had a University longer than Ireland... and ours is still better, that must be shit. At it since the 1300's and you still come to Ballygobackwards 'cos your whole countries shite....Rippin.

  • could be due to we are a small country while ye are a larger country with more people !?

  • I am Irish and see nothing wrong with Poland. Nice country, nice people.

  • yea its old fucking brilliant it still isnt ranked higher than trinity you stupid bastard your a anoying bastard you make up facts and talk pull im not gonna waste my time replying to you fucking retart

  • jagiellonian i have never heard off i know your pulling facts out your arss know saying we have shit universities with no experience trinity is one of the top universities in europe i have never heard of jagiellonian ireland is much more educated than poland you poles do unskilled brain dead work over hear your all retarts

  • bullshit we have one of the best university systems in europe ever hear of trinity college dumbass you polish are so educated that you all work minimum wage unskilled work i know squirrels that are more educated than polish

  • "The problem is that Poland is much more Educated then Ireland" Nice grammar! and you spelled university wrong!!! LOL the irony!

  • every response from you and that other polish guys is what poland did 60 or like yourself 245 years ago my response is ireland is a rich well educated country poland is a inbred shithole p.s poland couldnt stop the german invasion country raped

  • your country didnt exist until after the treaty of versailles these battles are all bullshit stupid pole

  • no i blocked you because of stupid comments like that you never have a good comeback you just want to suck of these paras why dont you comment on some of thier vids

  • you are a fucking retatrd you wer a soviet satelite state from 1945 onwards but you dont know what that means as you are only a child who thinks he knows everything but you dont no shit Wasz dzieckcko (dziecinny) i wasza armia jest wesoła teraz udają się daleko

  • you have been drinkin to much vodka again the polish paras were pussies who aboned thier country in a time of need you polish have been ruled by 2 foreign powers between 1939-1992 didint see your paras stop that oh yea thats cos thier shit

  • ye and ye got slaughterd by the germans in the warsaw rising you fucking dumbass and what are you gay for these fucking pussie paras what actuall fighting have they ever done thier a joke

  • never mind this retard he thinks the ira doesnt exist his completely retarded

  • are you drinking to much vodka the germans pissed on the joke of a polish army ye were raped it took only a month for them to defeat you your polish paras didnt do shit during ww11 so stop getting a hard on talking about them

  • thier a joke you retard

  • the polish armed forces are a joke september 1 1939 polish horse men charging against german tanks and they got slaughterd your only answer to all my questions is to compare militarys as you now your country is a third world shit hole

  • well if poland is so great and irelands so bad why dont you all fuck off home oh yea poland is a shithole while ireland is a more richer forward country

  • You're too stupid to recognise sarcasm. Will you please tell all your friends how shit Ireland is so they'll fuck off back to Poland? Oh and btw you got your asses kicked in WW2 so handgun my hole.

  • ye thats cos we can just exploit countrys like poland to make it for half the price

  • Oh really??? Wow I thought they made them in Tipperary

  • All the Brits on here are hilarious. Jealous because they dont have any Mowags!!

  • dose Ireland go to war??

  • were neutrail so no we do peace keeping tho thats it

  • No the Irish army prevents war by peace keeping.If some one declared war on Ireland then these people come in to play

  • I'm a Mowag driver and yes this is a Mowag. It's fitted with the new weapon system not the normal 12.7 mm and 7.62mm

  • Ugh you lucky bastard I'd love to drive a Mowag!! Can you drive one as a Comissioned officer?

  • ans to that question is to clean up the shit and destruction that other armys find they cant handle after a few year.

  • what does any country have an army for u dumbass ..... wow ur stupid

  • what u mean by that

  • what a stupid little comment.....

  • Why dont ye all get a life....

  • well done everyone, tell the whole world wat we have why dontcha's.. ( if ya's can't tell i was been sercastic ) fucking dopes.. i dont no if ur comments ar true or not but still.. you dont say it, espeacialy wer d world can c it ya no

  • Definitely a Mowag.

  • No id say a scorpian, the Mowag has no cannon, its primary wepon is 21.1 Heavy machine Gum (HMG).

    while this video is showing a cannon being fired, so it must be your light tank mate.

  • Mowag does have a Cannon. Oto-Melara 30mm Cannon variant. Sounds is poor on video but sounds heavier than a HMG but not heavy enough for a scorpion. IMHO

  • like yur username ;)

  • I dident know there was this type of pattern of mowag in the irish army the only one's if seen in tactic where the medic version and the standard pattern APC!

  • those aren't aml90's coz u can see the headlights on the front and sorta make out the side, it's firing to it's left

  • oh, wait yeah i can see it now, it's two piranha's, one is behind and slightly to the side. if you look closely u can see 3 headlights and 2 turrets. scorpion headlights are lower down and it's way too big to be an AML-90. there both equipped with the oto malara 30mm cannon, the irish army has about 20 or so of these.

  • if u know anything abou the army the aml 90s fire off a round not like the 30mm u sand bang go away and leanr about the army and stop listing 2 snadbags sergants who know fuck all about the army

  • I really don't know what this was other than it was loud and looked dangerous lol

  • calm down ya piece of shit, I don't have to know a jack shit bout irish army coz I simply ain't irish

  • Ha HA you said Snadbags. :D

  • looks more like AML 90s

  • around 50 of um mayb 60

    anyway are u sure dat is a mowag piranha cuz i think its a scorpion (its a mini tank )cz d mowag has no canon

  • stupid gobshite, 50 or 60??????, scorpion????? u really know nothing. i cant remember off the top of my head but i think we have between 3-6 of them, not 50 or 60, and the bloddy scorpion is tiny compared to a mowag and its gun is nowhere near as long as the mowags 30mm canon, there are different types of mowags that can be fitted with different weapon systoms,eg, .5, 30mm, 40mm grenade launcher etc etc, so yes these mowags do have canons.

  • so ur telling me we only have 3-6 mowags :O we have well more than 3n or 6 anyway

  • no im telling you we have 3-6 mowags with 30mm cannons, yes we have around 60 or so mowags altoghter, dont know, might have a few more than that now, most are the standard ones with the .5 turret, others have the .5 remote controled weapon platform system used for close recce, and a few are fitted with 40mm grenade launchers also used for close recce, and then we have the few were talking about which have the 30mm cannons used for medium recce missions,

  • we have 20 with 30mm cannons and 60 standard ones with the 12.7mm HMG turret

    so we have 80 in total.

  • we also have 2 sisu pasi's for training purposes.

  • don't mind hobo9, we have 60 standard piranha's with HMG turrets and 20 with the 30mm

  • The reserves probably only have 3-6 mowags lmao j/k. I've seen these things fitted with a 105mm turret too

  • how many of this do we have??

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