The daycare center example really shows how valuable culture is. Once you break it...you can't put it back together again. I feel so sorry for the US
The start made me think entirely of Ubuntu...and then Obama. Seriously, I've seen things go horribly wrong after someone at the front of a room started with 2007 and Kenya. Awesome coverage of why the democratic media will surpass it's controlled predecessor.
well we know how well HAITI is right now. All that money raised and they are still in the same doggone situation but worse now they are dying from water with fecal matter in it? eeeew that is just nasty. seriously. many are migrating to america . seems like if they were serious pay some americans go over there and REBUILD it Quickly heck Asians can build prefabbed setups like in a couple of days. i think they want hait to loose
@katgrl56 i dont think u got the joke. he implies to finding lolcats a wasteful use of time, so im sure hell be shocked at how much time 4chan can waste. that is all.
When will cognitive surplus max out, because technically the more FREE stuff, free this and that, who will get paid. Our economy is already broken some of these were jobs, Web design was a job but now most people any idiot can build a website. No money really there.. Some people are charging fortunes for web design, etc. No need for a lot of things as people can get info fast online... but WHAT makes money. Airlines changed.. he said a bunch and NOThing
Instrinsic motivation to create and share + internet technology and apps = cognitive surplus. Civic value comes from participants creativity being enjoyed by society as a whole.
I say there is clear potential for organisations as well where employee creativity that is shared creates value for the organisation as a whole.
@alteritY9k when i think of society being filled of suits like the guy who gave the talk - i get the 10 sheckles syndrome. I just don't want to make life easier for these suited ann-rand freaks. I didn't build the internet so you could send bitches smiley faces inbetween power-meetings and call yourself cultured.
Go grow your brand and do the safety dance, Clay Shirky you suited 80s yuppie, Die of boneitis.
i'm so inappropriately angry i forget who i was even originally talking to.
I agree with the main point: the internet allows us to contribute content, not just consume, and is largely built on freely contributed content.
The other good point is that we should celebrate and support projects with ‘civic value’. For example, wikipedia, free and open source software, artists and musicians who freely distribute their works, and so forth.
The point of mentioning the daycare experiment is if we think of these things from an economic standpoint we will not see their value.
The daycare center experiment is very interesting. However, it would have been more conclusive if they had tried different fines. They started with 10 Shekels, but what about 20, or 30 Shekels? Where is the threshold at which the financial contract overpowers the social contract?
@JohnColt well for instance like in psychofycics there is no treshold for perceiving sound. Rather when you look at mean scores you'll see that the perception of sound itself comes gradually (continuously), so for instance instead of perceiving from x Db onwards, a person perceives from x-y Db onwards. With the highest chance of perceiving at freq(xMAX) Db. The same goes for this statistic here, hence there is no treshold but a more gradual change.
Ok - logarithms - but what has that to do with the daycare center experiment? I'm just pointing out that a more expensive fine may have resulted in a reduction of lateness. A sufficiently high fine might result in a lower rate of lateness than in the control.
@JohnColt Most likely these researchers realized they would've had to deal with the effect i told you about, and decided to describe the effect rather than try and get a more in-depth look at this phenomena. So the anticipated effects (predictions) determined their research design. To make testable predictions about a treshold, you need change the design itself, because this one does not allow inferences about a treshold (statistically), regardless of adding 2 more rewardconditions.
For reference, 10 shekels is about $2.50. So while I take his point that "social obligations" (i.e. guilt) can be more valuable than money, they didn't exactly try to find the right price, either.
More generally, I think Shirky is just wrong that we couldn't contribute before and we all do now. The scope has changed, and now a few people can accomplish even more. Our entertainment is more efficiently shared and so is our work. But that's always the effect of advancement.
I was very surprised by this talk. I'd been abstaining from watching too many TED Talks, ever since EvolvingTube's ratings had modified yet had vanished from immediate view. But, the lighting, the room, the clean, bald head, the exuded confidence, tone, boom, control; the topic, detail, organization, experiment, etc., all combined to exemplify this beyond much else like it. And, hey, I just looked, and they finally put a representation of their new ratings system up. What a good time.
But my main concern was that I hope to know of any followup experiments regarding that day care center one. It tears a certain aspect of me --- if there is no possible way to get those parents back to normal. ... I fear that it might parallel many situations throughout the world; so, it would be great to know of a proven method to normalize societies once more, out of this financial determinism.
You know the humor value of something has peaked out when its a staple in lectures relating to the internet. Yeah, cat macros made me smile too, but that was several years back.
You never needed monetary incentive to create, share, work on things you like, contribute, innovate... Money is just the thing you require in order to do something you wouldn't otherwise do. Think about that.
@williamn6133 the point is the people have an in native need to share and participate in common objectives. He is presenting a platform, Ushahidi, that allow people to do it. A kind of Facebook where you can create projects where people can collaborate and express their creativity and sharing. Another point is that technologies are revealing that people generous in nature.
civic values. I like it very much. There is hardly anything more exciting then participating in building a better society, better environment, more ethical values and sharing them together. We have the tools, I believe it is possible.
Great topic. Similar to Dan Pink's book, DRiVE. Think maybe they coauthored an recent Wired article on this topic. Anyway, for anyone is interested in reading more, check the June issue of Wired.
TED should change the name of this talk to: "Mr Obvious obfuscates obvious things to make them seem more complex and sophisticated than they really are."
wow ...I have a programme so that everyone in the world can read and speak ENglsh ..ESoL, dyslexic or stroke victim ..I live in New Zealand and am alone See me please w w w.r e a ds pe ak . c o .n z
did he just diss LOLcats?.... I KNOW he didn't just diss LOLcats.
THE STUPIDEST ACT? does this man have any idea how many .2 seconds of joy LOLcats have brought to countless people? happiness isn't stupid, your face is stupid, bald tom hanks.
@archipelligo if he hadn't spent those 13 minutes saying that, you wouldn't have remembered that. Besides, you still missed his main point, being that we have the ABILITY to benefit and that the fact that we're able to do this through the media we have now, will benefit society.
@CrrackTheSkye dont presume to know what i will remember, i was just summarising it, thats all. so yeah what he's saying is now the world is connected there are more ways to benefit things and that. i like it, i also like your name, which i may suggest to my singer as a band name, cheers!
Lolcats stupid? You can make a program which throws together random words with cat images and you would never get anything close to a lolcat. A lolcat is a mix of humor using image and caption and is very specific way, specific to the cultural context. They are in the same vein as the single caption punchline editorial cartoons. Though some are timeless and cross all cultural bounds.
Excellent talk. Regarding the day care study, I'd say they just didn't make the fine high enough. If they had made it 10 times as big, late pick ups would have gone down. However, it does show that there is a monetary value that you can put on social pressure, and it's obviously more than 10 shekels in this example.
@ORVX You mean 'don't tax the poor as much as you tax the rich'. Tax isn't about punishment, it's about paying to have an effective government. If running the government was free then that would be great, but it's not. 'who pays?' and 'how much?' are questions that are not simply a liberal versus conservative question. I wish people would stop making it sound so simple.
@kevinscales but with no governments, you would need no taxes. :D An effective government, now thats a good oxymoron, but I suppose the most effective governments are dictatorships.
@marsCubed Corporations are a way for individuals to do whatever they want without being held accountable for actions or for risks.. and they only exist, have this status, because of the government. Your government empowers the corporations and is the number 1 cause of greed and inequality. Get out of la la land.
Loading regulatory committees with de-regulators & corp stooges, tax avoidance scams for the richest, competition & aggression ranted from rooftops, Privatization, inequality, greed as actual mottos.
And you say it wasn't the right wot did it?
self regulation resulted in high risk loans resold as AAA poisoning trade.
In Greece they are calling for deregulators to go on trial for fraud.
@marsCubed WTF are you going on about? I hate conservatism in the US more than liberalism... You are a complete amateur and demonstrate no desire to acquire knowledge or challenge yourself, only to win some fight. Have it with yourself. I'm against all the things you mentioned. Your are a gerbil trying to fix the problem with more of what caused the problem. Go read books.
@newexperiment Both your language and the poverty of your argument show your previous comment is a description of yourself.
Fact is that right 'libertarian' is what Greenspan, head of the Fed called himself, as does the KKK and Sarah Palin, it is the same ideological base as Bush. but much worse..
Ron Paul is backed by a bullion corp,which set up a number of such groups.
It's another con. you got duped by the far right.
watch?v=t4P87p-Arcw
inequality & trashing democracy is what they stand for .
@marsCubed No I did not get "duped". I already knew of all that stuff. And your argument if full of falsehoods and fallacies. Hitler had a mustache so mustaches are bad for humanity. or so you'd have us believe. First off I'm an extremely left anarcho-capitalist. I think Denmark is doing a better job than any right-leaning statist could ever accomplish in the US. And obama is backed by the pharmaceutical companies. Try to step outside of your social conditioning, not everything is left vs right
@newexperiment You really are an extreme dogmatist, and it comes through with your non-sequiters. CORPORATISM is what caused your market crashes (I'm a long ways away from you :) ) Blind greed, anti-democracy, pro inequality, segregation, and diminished civil liberties are the side effect of YOUR approach to solve complex social problems. I know you don't intend for them, but that's reality. Watch (listen) to the 5 part series "free market fantasies by noam chomsky".
@newexperiment You use exactly the same argument as Nazis in the 30s or stormfront today. they say left/right is a sham, only Hitler could protect the German constitution.
Corp rule minus a voice by regular people, no right to know, unfettered profit making and deregulation by property elites.
Mainstream Politics today different sections of the capitalist class.
It is all right or far right.
Greek workers are a left movement though, Chomsky & open democracy is left.
@marsCubed Yes, and mustaches are evil because hitler had one, and clothes are bad because Nazis wore them, and you shouldn't breathe air because that's what Nazis did...
@marsCubed You are incorrigible, basic political fundamentals.. politics is at least 2 dimensional. "left" as you mean in the fail USA means +1 in one dimension (personal liberty: gay, abortion, stem cells, etc) and -1 in another dimension (economic freedom (and not *just* the upper classes)). Where right in USA means the opposite, -1, +1. But there are other philosophies like +1, +1 (me and chomsky, ron paul) or -1, -1 (north korea and china). Watch "are you a libertarian" by shandedk
@marsCubed ok.. You're a moron... I never said any of the things you contradicted.. so.. at best you defeated some straw men... I "hate" corporations too, and you don't know the definition of capitalism. I'm done, get passed econ 101 and politics 101.
@newexperiment It is more than obvious when people become offensive, they lose all credibility.
Your model of reality is like a collection of appologies for the gross neglect and harm of laissez-fair profiteering.
Capitalism is is a historical system, Capitalists hold hegemony.
All is put in terms corps need to compete.
Rat-race competition, lives ruined, resources squandered, replication, waste, neglect. accompanied by shrill cries of doom if wages are not cut even more to compete.
Absolutely agreed! Our military industrial complex holds a large share of the blame for our low-reward, high taxation. When war makes money, people make war... and that's the sad state of affairs in which we find ourselves. One of the largest contributing factors is our corporatism; we need to prevent large corporations from affecting policy as they do now. Democracy may not be the best solution, but it's a hell of a lot better than fascism.
@kevinscales lol, for sake of argument pretends that his comment about gov EVER being more effective then private was a relvent comment ,as to make fun of the moron.wow, view kevinscales to see moron in action, clearly does not get the principal.
@ORVX When did I say government is more effective than private? I was just pointing out that simplifying things to 'liberals want more tax' (not necessarily true) and 'higher tax causes more harm' (also not necessarily true) is just not good enough.
I dislike videos like these. They speak in absolutes... Their "Studies" dont even take other variables into consideration. Its like me creating a theory based on correlation. I have yet to see cause/effect. If one individual does not fit into this, its incorrect.
His speaking was all rhetoric, thats it. He never gave sound logical meaning in any of his points.
@ACANOFSODA so it wasn't a very good TED talk. Who cares? I think these videos are used more to inspire and inform rather then to solve problems. I'm a programmer and might go take a look at Ushahidi to see if there is any way I can use it and/or make it better. If you didn't like this TEDtalk try this one /watch?v=uVAaZVz9pDs or this one /watch?v=I-jk9ni4XWk
@Hilariousity Haha, I apologize if it seemed like I said it was useless. On the contrary, it achieved its purpose by making me think "Why its bad", so I can gain an understanding of "What might be better". Ima check out that link right now, I appreciate it. Programming is amazing in teaching logic. Haha, I remember my teacher using Plato's theories on the Forms to explain Hierarchies(The parent-type and all that stuff). very enjoyable.
@DynaCatlovesme if you decrypt his concluding comments it goes something like this:
"If you want people to do cool stuff for free on the internet and save the world, making said people feel good/proud about themselves would be a good start.
@newexperiment Hopefully your joking... Thats really stupid. All I see happening is people being "free" within their boundaries set by ignorance. Tell me how it will solve it, because the only way you can explain is through an absolute. I can guarantee you will be proved wrong via deductive reasoning.
@newexperiment The word anarchy carries a negative connotation with it that people will live only for themselves. Tell me where what this guy is talking about fits in with that definition of anarchy. If you have a specific idea of anarchy, you should explain it. Anarchic-communism?
@LudicrousTachyon An-archy means without archons. This can be anything really as long as it doesn't involve royalty, aristocracy or a corporate elite.
Almost everyone is an anarchist if only they knew what it means, so the corporate media paint a grim picture of it.
To hear about Judaism you ask a Jew. You don't ask him about Islam. Likewise the definition of atheism isn't made by Christians.
@gabydewilde Because no one carries a dictionary around with them people have their own ideas of how to define the same things. Not every anarchist will define anarchy the same way. The trick is to figure out the other person's definition in order to better understand them. No one person is correct either as all definitions are arbitrary and change with time.
@LudicrousTachyon sure, my point is that if you start the Tachyon movement and I define it as people who are against dictionaries, it might be funny but it doesn't define what you are trying to do. Next thing people will join your movement because they don't like big words. Here it becomes really necessary to remind them what your original intend was.
Next one could for example wonder what democracy was originally rather than what MAO or Obama says it is.
The daycare center example really shows how valuable culture is. Once you break it...you can't put it back together again. I feel so sorry for the US
crudhousefull 3 days ago
The start made me think entirely of Ubuntu...and then Obama. Seriously, I've seen things go horribly wrong after someone at the front of a room started with 2007 and Kenya. Awesome coverage of why the democratic media will surpass it's controlled predecessor.
akashashen 1 week ago
The end made me think entirely of GNU/Linux and the free software movement.
barbariandude 1 week ago
HHmm.. Good!!. Thanks for Shared.
ngeliatduit 1 month ago
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I'll bookmark your channel, good video
Spasatcom 1 month ago
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If you have knowledge, let others light their candles at it.
andreeaweed 2 months ago in playlist The Best of TEDtalksDirector
internet is like a large country where you can find all kind of information and stuff about anything
andreeaweed 2 months ago in playlist The Best of TEDtalksDirector
@andreeaweed Except that it doesn't have information and stuff about everything.
CorvidaeHerald 2 months ago
very informative talk
careerhuntsville 4 months ago
I'll bookmark your channel…
aseohosting 4 months ago
Surely this guy is incorporating concepts from Hayek's "The Use of Knowledge in Society" into his talk.
Wormtail81 8 months ago
Bald Tom Hanks! LOL
fhatsumura 1 year ago
well we know how well HAITI is right now. All that money raised and they are still in the same doggone situation but worse now they are dying from water with fecal matter in it? eeeew that is just nasty. seriously. many are migrating to america . seems like if they were serious pay some americans go over there and REBUILD it Quickly heck Asians can build prefabbed setups like in a couple of days. i think they want hait to loose
WonderWomanFan4life 1 year ago
if this guy raged at lolcats that much, im scared to think about how hell react to 4chan...
dandil 1 year ago
@dandil he likes lolcats...
katgrl56 10 months ago
@katgrl56 i dont think u got the joke. he implies to finding lolcats a wasteful use of time, so im sure hell be shocked at how much time 4chan can waste. that is all.
dandil 10 months ago
@katgrl56 i think hes remaining kinda neutral
MegaAppless 9 months ago
Catch how he keeps mumbling "right" under his breath? I didn't hear anything. Just kept waiting for the next "right"
RingmoDooleywrong 1 year ago
Looks like a Nazi doctor
RingmoDooleywrong 1 year ago
Let's cut the crap here. He's talking about internet Memes.
Kirbynessness 1 year ago
leave LOLCATs alone!!
kerimil 1 year ago
@kerimil he says he likes them...
katgrl56 10 months ago
i love lol cats!! meow
danielloowk 1 year ago
When will cognitive surplus max out, because technically the more FREE stuff, free this and that, who will get paid. Our economy is already broken some of these were jobs, Web design was a job but now most people any idiot can build a website. No money really there.. Some people are charging fortunes for web design, etc. No need for a lot of things as people can get info fast online... but WHAT makes money. Airlines changed.. he said a bunch and NOThing
WonderWomanFan4life 1 year ago
@WonderWomanFan4life welcome to technological unemployment! welcome it!
IntuitiveLeap 1 year ago 3
Basement cat will make you burn in the basement!
rtsownage 1 year ago
Hmmm never thought of that. Thank you!
DurexDurpaneu2 1 year ago
Instrinsic motivation to create and share + internet technology and apps = cognitive surplus. Civic value comes from participants creativity being enjoyed by society as a whole.
I say there is clear potential for organisations as well where employee creativity that is shared creates value for the organisation as a whole.
conem2 1 year ago
What the hell does this guy have against lolcats & erotic novels.
ogrish84 1 year ago
@ogrish84 he doesn't have anything against lolcats. He says he likes them...
katgrl56 10 months ago
holy crap this is an amazing study
DrQuijano 1 year ago
Rawr! Have I participated then?
TheLittleBlackBear 1 year ago
I've seen this guy before. He's good; and reminds me of Tom Hanks.
WOODSYMAN 1 year ago
Lesson of the video: contribute to open source!
Ramshobraja 1 year ago
Interesting implications..thank you
gr8light 1 year ago
LOLCATS ARN'T STUPID
YOU'RE STUPID
roidroid 1 year ago
@roidroid - man, you must really love cats...
ArcaneKarma 1 year ago
@roidroid Stewpit* lol
ZachVMNTX1 1 year ago
I'm betting I know a group of daycare centers that wished they never participated in *that* experiment.
allgood2 1 year ago 2
best
fannivox 1 year ago
@alteritY9k when i think of society being filled of suits like the guy who gave the talk - i get the 10 sheckles syndrome. I just don't want to make life easier for these suited ann-rand freaks. I didn't build the internet so you could send bitches smiley faces inbetween power-meetings and call yourself cultured.
Go grow your brand and do the safety dance, Clay Shirky you suited 80s yuppie, Die of boneitis.
i'm so inappropriately angry i forget who i was even originally talking to.
roidroid 1 year ago
@roidroid If Clay Shirky dies od boneitis, his only regret will be that he had boneitis. Where is the lesson learned?
timredfordmusic 1 year ago
I agree with the main point: the internet allows us to contribute content, not just consume, and is largely built on freely contributed content.
The other good point is that we should celebrate and support projects with ‘civic value’. For example, wikipedia, free and open source software, artists and musicians who freely distribute their works, and so forth.
The point of mentioning the daycare experiment is if we think of these things from an economic standpoint we will not see their value.
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roidroid 1 year ago
Right.
Duppetiduu 1 year ago
The daycare center experiment is very interesting. However, it would have been more conclusive if they had tried different fines. They started with 10 Shekels, but what about 20, or 30 Shekels? Where is the threshold at which the financial contract overpowers the social contract?
JohnColt 1 year ago
@JohnColt I agree. The parents determined that the 10 shekels was a reasonable amount to pay for the extra time they needed, it was not punitive.
robblynn 1 year ago
@JohnColt There is no treshold, mean scores do not compute to one figure. Rather than a treshold change, in this case it involves a continuous one.
Keygeneratormusic 1 year ago
@Keygeneratormusic
er... sorry, I must be thick, but I have no idea what you are talking about.
JohnColt 1 year ago
@JohnColt well for instance like in psychofycics there is no treshold for perceiving sound. Rather when you look at mean scores you'll see that the perception of sound itself comes gradually (continuously), so for instance instead of perceiving from x Db onwards, a person perceives from x-y Db onwards. With the highest chance of perceiving at freq(xMAX) Db. The same goes for this statistic here, hence there is no treshold but a more gradual change.
Keygeneratormusic 1 year ago
@Keygeneratormusic
Ok - logarithms - but what has that to do with the daycare center experiment? I'm just pointing out that a more expensive fine may have resulted in a reduction of lateness. A sufficiently high fine might result in a lower rate of lateness than in the control.
JohnColt 1 year ago
@JohnColt Most likely these researchers realized they would've had to deal with the effect i told you about, and decided to describe the effect rather than try and get a more in-depth look at this phenomena. So the anticipated effects (predictions) determined their research design. To make testable predictions about a treshold, you need change the design itself, because this one does not allow inferences about a treshold (statistically), regardless of adding 2 more rewardconditions.
Keygeneratormusic 1 year ago
For reference, 10 shekels is about $2.50. So while I take his point that "social obligations" (i.e. guilt) can be more valuable than money, they didn't exactly try to find the right price, either.
More generally, I think Shirky is just wrong that we couldn't contribute before and we all do now. The scope has changed, and now a few people can accomplish even more. Our entertainment is more efficiently shared and so is our work. But that's always the effect of advancement.
notme222 1 year ago
I was very surprised by this talk. I'd been abstaining from watching too many TED Talks, ever since EvolvingTube's ratings had modified yet had vanished from immediate view. But, the lighting, the room, the clean, bald head, the exuded confidence, tone, boom, control; the topic, detail, organization, experiment, etc., all combined to exemplify this beyond much else like it. And, hey, I just looked, and they finally put a representation of their new ratings system up. What a good time.
Audiservant 1 year ago
But my main concern was that I hope to know of any followup experiments regarding that day care center one. It tears a certain aspect of me --- if there is no possible way to get those parents back to normal. ... I fear that it might parallel many situations throughout the world; so, it would be great to know of a proven method to normalize societies once more, out of this financial determinism.
Audiservant 1 year ago
doesn't the haifa daycare center remind someone about confucianist teachings against legalism??
kephas10yf 1 year ago
You know the humor value of something has peaked out when its a staple in lectures relating to the internet. Yeah, cat macros made me smile too, but that was several years back.
Khorien 1 year ago
Once again, lets make money speaking about people's habits of wasting time.
Holy shit! I think I finally saw my reflection in my monitor!
MultiUniv3rsal 1 year ago
He looks like Tom Hanks..
The3irik92 1 year ago
@The3irik92 Holy shit! So he does! Significantly!
normskis69 1 year ago
is he selling tuppaware ?/?
CallMeCondemned 1 year ago
If the fine had been 100 nis, it would have worked - 10 nis is a little more than a loaf of bread.
WeedMIC 1 year ago
what's this dude problem with lolcats and erotic novels?
SenorChuckNorris 1 year ago
If you impose a fine in Singapore, you will get a different respond. I think different culture respond differently.
97pattan 1 year ago
This type of work only functions best in a civilization where information such as this doesn't take advantage of it in negative ways to the public.
XaneCrazy 1 year ago
@XaneCrazy to the personal lifestyle or personal information itself, but it's still a good idea.
XaneCrazy 1 year ago
Where did his tie go? Any magicians around there?
Elephantintheroom01 1 year ago
You never needed monetary incentive to create, share, work on things you like, contribute, innovate... Money is just the thing you require in order to do something you wouldn't otherwise do. Think about that.
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the borg collective or the singularity?
epatton1001 1 year ago
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epatton1001 1 year ago
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epatton1001 1 year ago
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epatton1001 1 year ago
There were some nice ideas in the video but can someone please tell me what his point was?
williamn6133 1 year ago
@williamn6133 the point is the people have an in native need to share and participate in common objectives. He is presenting a platform, Ushahidi, that allow people to do it. A kind of Facebook where you can create projects where people can collaborate and express their creativity and sharing. Another point is that technologies are revealing that people generous in nature.
dec041 1 year ago
@dec041
Thanks for explaining the point of the video! :)
williamn6133 1 year ago
civic values. I like it very much. There is hardly anything more exciting then participating in building a better society, better environment, more ethical values and sharing them together. We have the tools, I believe it is possible.
dec041 1 year ago
Lex Luther
NegativeNick 1 year ago
Yawn
HigherPlanes 1 year ago
#OMG stop saying "right"
McSnookerman 1 year ago
lol catz are SO old.
get with the memes.
NextToNothing123 1 year ago
Great topic. Similar to Dan Pink's book, DRiVE. Think maybe they coauthored an recent Wired article on this topic. Anyway, for anyone is interested in reading more, check the June issue of Wired.
ReverendJuice 1 year ago
LOL - Why do all the TED-Talkers use LoLcats as the "example" in their talks!? ;o)
Vortex42 1 year ago
Interesting stuff.
Shalek 1 year ago
what kind of shit he talks about?
If he was smart he would say it in a Short sentence.
koteban 1 year ago
@koteban Ever read a book?
Zigiwy 1 year ago
I'm waiting for the Chris Cocker video response: Leave LOLCATs alone!
LAnonHubbard 1 year ago 3
This was mind changing! An absolutely wonderful video! Thanks.
MegaYippie 1 year ago
he's mad at superman because he made him bald!
mazdaplz 1 year ago
Some people say "Um" to fill in the blank and he chose "Right".lol
marcuelcajon 1 year ago
Environmental acknowledgement feels wonderful.tee hee
Snowflake70 1 year ago
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He did a lot of talking, without saying very much. Waste of 13:39.
Trigunflame 1 year ago
@Trigunflame That's where you need to hit the little soccer ball button in the bottom right corner... instant LOL.
metallicpumpkin 1 year ago
@Trigunflame He talked about Ushahidi. Guess there's some value in that...maybe publicity...
cboehm24 1 year ago
@Trigunflame
Try using your ears buddy
RealInventions1 1 year ago
Awesome Talk, I'm gonna make some lolcats now =p
ZirconCode 1 year ago 2
I listened until he compared lul cats to junk.
lul cats are much more than junk, they represent the very center of lulz.
HaCoTiIDie 1 year ago
TED should change the name of this talk to: "Mr Obvious obfuscates obvious things to make them seem more complex and sophisticated than they really are."
supermaucat 1 year ago 3
wow ...I have a programme so that everyone in the world can read and speak ENglsh ..ESoL, dyslexic or stroke victim ..I live in New Zealand and am alone See me please w w w.r e a ds pe ak . c o .n z
fluentread 1 year ago
I tried, but even after this video ended I couldn't help but have only one thought in my mind. DAMN I WANNA RUB HIS HEAD!
ExclusiveManual 1 year ago
5 "rights" per min on average!
LMAO right?
antbots 1 year ago
Thumbs up for the terrible impression of how a Jew talks
k166a 1 year ago
this guy's like Mr Macky from South Park. "right?"
zeppidy 1 year ago
did he just diss LOLcats?.... I KNOW he didn't just diss LOLcats.
THE STUPIDEST ACT? does this man have any idea how many .2 seconds of joy LOLcats have brought to countless people? happiness isn't stupid, your face is stupid, bald tom hanks.
MaBuSt 1 year ago 2
@MaBuSt Bald Tom Hanks. Hahahahahaha
VitriolicAC 1 year ago
@MaBuSt no, he didn't diss lolcats. If you actually finish the video, he says he likes lolcats. He's saying other people regard them as stupid.
katgrl56 10 months ago
hwhere oh hwhere
CrrackTheSkye 1 year ago
am i wrong in thinking what he basically said in 13minutes is, do something that benefits society as a whole with your spare time?
archipelligo 1 year ago
@archipelligo if he hadn't spent those 13 minutes saying that, you wouldn't have remembered that. Besides, you still missed his main point, being that we have the ABILITY to benefit and that the fact that we're able to do this through the media we have now, will benefit society.
CrrackTheSkye 1 year ago
@CrrackTheSkye dont presume to know what i will remember, i was just summarising it, thats all. so yeah what he's saying is now the world is connected there are more ways to benefit things and that. i like it, i also like your name, which i may suggest to my singer as a band name, cheers!
archipelligo 1 year ago
@archipelligo Crack The Skye is an album by the band Mastodon :)
CrrackTheSkye 1 year ago
Lolcats stupid? You can make a program which throws together random words with cat images and you would never get anything close to a lolcat. A lolcat is a mix of humor using image and caption and is very specific way, specific to the cultural context. They are in the same vein as the single caption punchline editorial cartoons. Though some are timeless and cross all cultural bounds.
ddnguyen278 1 year ago 24
so they even had the time and resources (in 72 hours) to design that nice logo, let alone think up the name?
tictocmm 1 year ago
Excellent talk. Regarding the day care study, I'd say they just didn't make the fine high enough. If they had made it 10 times as big, late pick ups would have gone down. However, it does show that there is a monetary value that you can put on social pressure, and it's obviously more than 10 shekels in this example.
BigMKnows 1 year ago
maybe if liberals could understand this, they would understand how much damadge they do with there "tax us more" bullshit.
ORVX 1 year ago
@ORVX You mean 'don't tax the poor as much as you tax the rich'. Tax isn't about punishment, it's about paying to have an effective government. If running the government was free then that would be great, but it's not. 'who pays?' and 'how much?' are questions that are not simply a liberal versus conservative question. I wish people would stop making it sound so simple.
kevinscales 1 year ago
@kevinscales but with no governments, you would need no taxes. :D An effective government, now thats a good oxymoron, but I suppose the most effective governments are dictatorships.
recyard12x 1 year ago
@recyard12x The best Governments are places like Denmark and Norway.
Highest tax on the top 5% has made them the most equal & wealthy populations on Earth, next to no crime, excellent healthcare and education.
Best standard of living, the most free & democratic by all the indicators.
robot engineers and designers. long vacations.
Free-Markets leads to inequality, greed, neglect,
conditioned unemployable broom-pushers ranting for their boss to cut wages and buy a bigger yacht.
pathetic.
marsCubed 1 year ago
@marsCubed You have no idea what free markets lead to, there doesn't exist any.
Free market: a market where all decisions regarding transfer of money, goods (including capital goods), and services are voluntary.
Voluntary: any action not influenced by coercion or fraud perpetrated by any human agency
Coercion: physical force or threat of such against persons or property
State: an organization that taxes and engages in regularized and institutionalized aggressive coercion
newexperiment 1 year ago
@newexperiment blah blah blah..
Your comment is repeating stale old far-right rhetoric.
Greenspan was a personal friend of Rand... it is what just crashed the economy.
Inequality and blind greed.
Anti democracy? pro inequality? for segregated communities? against civil rights?
A chunk of it is KKK with gloss.
The only rights the likes of Paul stand for are for the property elites.
It is nasty authoritarian shit and the nastiest corps.
Move left, turn against the corp lobbies trashing OUR Govts
marsCubed 1 year ago
@marsCubed Corporations are a way for individuals to do whatever they want without being held accountable for actions or for risks.. and they only exist, have this status, because of the government. Your government empowers the corporations and is the number 1 cause of greed and inequality. Get out of la la land.
newexperiment 1 year ago
@newexperiment conservative flag-ship policy!
Loading regulatory committees with de-regulators & corp stooges, tax avoidance scams for the richest, competition & aggression ranted from rooftops, Privatization, inequality, greed as actual mottos.
And you say it wasn't the right wot did it?
self regulation resulted in high risk loans resold as AAA poisoning trade.
In Greece they are calling for deregulators to go on trial for fraud.
myopic profiteering trashes markets and lives.
marsCubed 1 year ago
@marsCubed WTF are you going on about? I hate conservatism in the US more than liberalism... You are a complete amateur and demonstrate no desire to acquire knowledge or challenge yourself, only to win some fight. Have it with yourself. I'm against all the things you mentioned. Your are a gerbil trying to fix the problem with more of what caused the problem. Go read books.
newexperiment 1 year ago
@newexperiment Both your language and the poverty of your argument show your previous comment is a description of yourself.
Fact is that right 'libertarian' is what Greenspan, head of the Fed called himself, as does the KKK and Sarah Palin, it is the same ideological base as Bush. but much worse..
Ron Paul is backed by a bullion corp,which set up a number of such groups.
It's another con. you got duped by the far right.
watch?v=t4P87p-Arcw
inequality & trashing democracy is what they stand for .
marsCubed 1 year ago
@marsCubed No I did not get "duped". I already knew of all that stuff. And your argument if full of falsehoods and fallacies. Hitler had a mustache so mustaches are bad for humanity. or so you'd have us believe. First off I'm an extremely left anarcho-capitalist. I think Denmark is doing a better job than any right-leaning statist could ever accomplish in the US. And obama is backed by the pharmaceutical companies. Try to step outside of your social conditioning, not everything is left vs right
newexperiment 1 year ago
@newexperiment You really are an extreme dogmatist, and it comes through with your non-sequiters. CORPORATISM is what caused your market crashes (I'm a long ways away from you :) ) Blind greed, anti-democracy, pro inequality, segregation, and diminished civil liberties are the side effect of YOUR approach to solve complex social problems. I know you don't intend for them, but that's reality. Watch (listen) to the 5 part series "free market fantasies by noam chomsky".
newexperiment 1 year ago
@newexperiment You use exactly the same argument as Nazis in the 30s or stormfront today. they say left/right is a sham, only Hitler could protect the German constitution.
Corp rule minus a voice by regular people, no right to know, unfettered profit making and deregulation by property elites.
Mainstream Politics today different sections of the capitalist class.
It is all right or far right.
Greek workers are a left movement though, Chomsky & open democracy is left.
corp lobbies are the right.
marsCubed 1 year ago
@marsCubed Yes, and mustaches are evil because hitler had one, and clothes are bad because Nazis wore them, and you shouldn't breathe air because that's what Nazis did...
Nate2203 1 year ago
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newexperiment 1 year ago
@marsCubed You are incorrigible, basic political fundamentals.. politics is at least 2 dimensional. "left" as you mean in the fail USA means +1 in one dimension (personal liberty: gay, abortion, stem cells, etc) and -1 in another dimension (economic freedom (and not *just* the upper classes)). Where right in USA means the opposite, -1, +1. But there are other philosophies like +1, +1 (me and chomsky, ron paul) or -1, -1 (north korea and china). Watch "are you a libertarian" by shandedk
newexperiment 1 year ago
@newexperiment
Your graph has a concrete base & times are changing.
Inequality is growing much worse, the reason many hate corps is not propaganda, it's because they or family work for them.
Capitalism fractures in a myriad of different ways.
Contradictions get resolved. we fix things, people come together, then it becomes normalized.
Blind profiteering saturates markets, it crashes, cutting labour shrinks markets even more.
win becomes fail.
The invisible hand is not connected to a brain,
marsCubed 1 year ago
@marsCubed ok.. You're a moron... I never said any of the things you contradicted.. so.. at best you defeated some straw men... I "hate" corporations too, and you don't know the definition of capitalism. I'm done, get passed econ 101 and politics 101.
newexperiment 1 year ago
@newexperiment It is more than obvious when people become offensive, they lose all credibility.
Your model of reality is like a collection of appologies for the gross neglect and harm of laissez-fair profiteering.
Capitalism is is a historical system, Capitalists hold hegemony.
All is put in terms corps need to compete.
Rat-race competition, lives ruined, resources squandered, replication, waste, neglect. accompanied by shrill cries of doom if wages are not cut even more to compete.
It's moronic
marsCubed 1 year ago
@marsCubed You're right it is.
newexperiment 1 year ago
@marsCubed watch?v=-FBYQblRg2k
newexperiment 1 year ago
@kevinscales The more you pay the more goes to the 50% defense budget which is more than all other countries combined... Time to drop the idealism.
newexperiment 1 year ago
@newexperiment
Absolutely agreed! Our military industrial complex holds a large share of the blame for our low-reward, high taxation. When war makes money, people make war... and that's the sad state of affairs in which we find ourselves. One of the largest contributing factors is our corporatism; we need to prevent large corporations from affecting policy as they do now. Democracy may not be the best solution, but it's a hell of a lot better than fascism.
ultramerton 1 year ago
@kevinscales lol, for sake of argument pretends that his comment about gov EVER being more effective then private was a relvent comment ,as to make fun of the moron.wow, view kevinscales to see moron in action, clearly does not get the principal.
ORVX 1 year ago
@ORVX When did I say government is more effective than private? I was just pointing out that simplifying things to 'liberals want more tax' (not necessarily true) and 'higher tax causes more harm' (also not necessarily true) is just not good enough.
kevinscales 1 year ago
Clay Shirky and Jill Tarter are my favorite Tedsters, thanks for the new one!
dtman83 1 year ago
By the time he said "right" for the 50th time, I stopped watching this video.
ericleb01 1 year ago 3
Seriously can any douche back come up on stage and talk ? Why cant we have a filter for useful vs baseless?
yourboycal 1 year ago
I dislike videos like these. They speak in absolutes... Their "Studies" dont even take other variables into consideration. Its like me creating a theory based on correlation. I have yet to see cause/effect. If one individual does not fit into this, its incorrect.
His speaking was all rhetoric, thats it. He never gave sound logical meaning in any of his points.
ACANOFSODA 1 year ago
@ACANOFSODA so it wasn't a very good TED talk. Who cares? I think these videos are used more to inspire and inform rather then to solve problems. I'm a programmer and might go take a look at Ushahidi to see if there is any way I can use it and/or make it better. If you didn't like this TEDtalk try this one /watch?v=uVAaZVz9pDs or this one /watch?v=I-jk9ni4XWk
Hilariousity 1 year ago
@Hilariousity Haha, I apologize if it seemed like I said it was useless. On the contrary, it achieved its purpose by making me think "Why its bad", so I can gain an understanding of "What might be better". Ima check out that link right now, I appreciate it. Programming is amazing in teaching logic. Haha, I remember my teacher using Plato's theories on the Forms to explain Hierarchies(The parent-type and all that stuff). very enjoyable.
ACANOFSODA 1 year ago
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rabbitwho 1 year ago
Talks like this are interesting, not that other pretentious crap.
yousefamar 1 year ago
click on the little soccer ball and it sounds like he is giving his presentation in South Africa
KaylinJH 1 year ago
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1schwererziehbar1 1 year ago
He showed what doesn't work and (probably) why, but he never actually came up with any valid proposal for what would work.
DynaCatlovesme 1 year ago
@DynaCatlovesme if you decrypt his concluding comments it goes something like this:
"If you want people to do cool stuff for free on the internet and save the world, making said people feel good/proud about themselves would be a good start.
Paulginz 1 year ago
Looks and sounds a little like Tom Hanks
zimdooga 1 year ago
I love TED, I don't think I'll have over really come across these sort of ideas and talks with out it and I'm glad I can.
Edward306 1 year ago
This is exactly why anarchy is the ultimate way to solve complex social problems like wealth, the environment, justice, and equality.
newexperiment 1 year ago
@newexperiment I think you should read "Leviathan" by Thomas Hobbes. You might change your mind.
yousefamar 1 year ago
@newexperiment Hopefully your joking... Thats really stupid. All I see happening is people being "free" within their boundaries set by ignorance. Tell me how it will solve it, because the only way you can explain is through an absolute. I can guarantee you will be proved wrong via deductive reasoning.
ACANOFSODA 1 year ago
@ACANOFSODA Well your "way to solve it" hasn't worked for 5000 years. That's pretty deductive if you ask me.
newexperiment 1 year ago
@newexperiment The word anarchy carries a negative connotation with it that people will live only for themselves. Tell me where what this guy is talking about fits in with that definition of anarchy. If you have a specific idea of anarchy, you should explain it. Anarchic-communism?
LudicrousTachyon 1 year ago
@LudicrousTachyon An-archy means without archons. This can be anything really as long as it doesn't involve royalty, aristocracy or a corporate elite.
Almost everyone is an anarchist if only they knew what it means, so the corporate media paint a grim picture of it.
To hear about Judaism you ask a Jew. You don't ask him about Islam. Likewise the definition of atheism isn't made by Christians.
Can have opinions of course but not definitions.
gabydewilde 1 year ago
@gabydewilde Because no one carries a dictionary around with them people have their own ideas of how to define the same things. Not every anarchist will define anarchy the same way. The trick is to figure out the other person's definition in order to better understand them. No one person is correct either as all definitions are arbitrary and change with time.
LudicrousTachyon 1 year ago
@LudicrousTachyon sure, my point is that if you start the Tachyon movement and I define it as people who are against dictionaries, it might be funny but it doesn't define what you are trying to do. Next thing people will join your movement because they don't like big words. Here it becomes really necessary to remind them what your original intend was.
Next one could for example wonder what democracy was originally rather than what MAO or Obama says it is.
It is truly fascinating
gabydewilde 1 year ago
@LudicrousTachyon Thanks for the good comment. This video shows that people would not only live for themselves even if given that freedom.
newexperiment 1 year ago
what did tom hanks do with his hair ?
14skillz 1 year ago 67
@14skillz AIDS.
Aspartame69 1 year ago
@Aspartame69 what?
unknotmiguel 1 year ago
@unknotmiguel You never seen Philadelphia?
Aspartame69 1 year ago
@Aspartame69 i think not. but i heard its the gay city?
unknotmiguel 1 year ago
@unknotmiguel Its the film where tom hanks gets aids and loses his hair durr!
Aspartame69 1 year ago
@14skillz . I really thought that was Tom Hanks. Whoa, talk about having a double.
limpnail 1 year ago
@14skillz haha yeah i thought he looked familiar.
Mtihc 1 year ago
@14skillz
Even sounds exactly like him...
CharBroiled04 1 year ago
@14skillz I wasn't going to agree until I heard him say "here's the thing" at 5:14. That was dead-on Tom Hanks.
Dayvit78 1 year ago
@14skillz funny cuz i never even realized that's hanks until you mentioned it.
TechnoLife120 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Pointless video... more pointless comments. Can I have my 13 minutes back, please?
BlackFlagParty 1 year ago
@BlackFlagParty nope, but you could have saved 22.4seconds not writing that comment ^^
GronTheMighty 1 year ago 28
@GronTheMighty Awesome comment. High five!
dinogrower 1 year ago