@pratagod At least he understands english, his obviously from a different culture, everyone has different accents. You need to learn more punctuation.
@pratagod And also retard isn't a word you can use just like that, be more considerable to people. You wouldn't want others to use words like retard if you or someone close to you was one.
@SteveCrank If you want to talk about accents, well then you should know that everyone from different cultures have different accents. Surely your not stupid.
uh weda it good ya LOL his accent is jokes "so uh and a uh bat-rey .... wats dis ?? ..... uh OK OOOOH nice" 7:03 in the video he finds out its Samsung S8003
blow the monky trumpet when the complicated rhino tail swims off with your fingernail on a wednesday afternoon when the queen says when will the roof slate off you dinosaur lightbulb because the central heating has gone sticky and messy because the phone iss sooooo good
That's a good question, I don't really like Orange, every phone I've had from them they have basically messed with the operating system of the phone and put their own stuff on it which I hate...
Could you tell me if the Samsung JET allows you to choose your own background like the display background? for example say I got an image of my computer or photographed one myself on the phone will it allow me to make it my background?
I'm not expert but I know that a problem of the Omnia hd is the bad audio during video recording due to the absence of AAC, so I'd like to know if this model has the AAC during video recording
it has very clear audio while recording a video and e video recording is also amzing....it has beaten 5mp digital cameras tat are in the market and i think thats good enough already
i really enjoy watchin movie wif this phone i planned on buying an itouch but nw when i have this i dun think im gonna need an itouch already....im gonna enjoy this phone....and long bus rides wont be a boredom for me anymre
this phone has a very good audio quality in earphones and in speakers too...and yeah it does play good quality video on youtube......still trying to get msn on it though will keep u updated
yupz i gt e hp alr its awesome.....and e pouch is damm tight juz lyk u mentioned...it kinda gets in the way when ure having an incoming call or msg..haha....and the incoming ringtone alert is damm loud even when the settings is not full...but my question does anybody knw hw i use the agps thingy
You can use the GPS by clicking on Google in the menu's first page, and then choosing Google Maps. However, do note that you need a data plan for Google to download the maps onto your phone
it has an internal memory of 2gb...and the speakers are awesome damm clear....battery life is damm good too i juz bought the hp yesterday....loving every bit of it
I haven't played with the w995, so I can't say which is better, but when compared with the N97, it depends what you want.
The N97 is a smartphone, so you can install lots of apps on it. It has 32GB of internal memory for music and videos too. It's quite a phyisical keyboard too, so that's good.
The Jet isn't a smartphone, so no 3rd party apps. But it's a lot cheaper, the camera is as good as the N97's, and it's smaller and lighter than the N97.
Quality of sound is pretty decent, though we're not audiophiles, but we're happy with it. On heavy usage, we could get it to last for about one and a half day
Ofcourse there will be better phones, but at the moment, this phone is quite good, isn't it? I mean, it looks good, has a nice display/camera/interface etc. So is it worth buying it? :)
Well, it depends on the hardware and software combination. The HTC Diamond, for example, had good software, but the hardware wasn't powerful enough. When they came up with the Diamond2, they got the right hardware with a better software, and it wasn't as laggy or slow.
Nope, they shouldn't. You're not paying for the web but rather for the mobile service that connects you to the internet using 3G. Therefore when you use WiFi, you're no longer using that mobile service to get you to the internet.
However, there are some WiFi locations that require you to pay to access it, but that is a separate thing from the mobile service.
Considering the speed at which technology is progressing nowadays, I'm sure by next year there will be better phones coming out. The price of this phone should drop too. So my advice is if you can afford to wait, then why not?
The worst case scenario is that the newer phones are not as good or too expensive, then you can go back to buying this one, which will still work then. You don't always need the newest and fanciest phone to get things done on it.
Yes, microSD card. It's a smaller version from the one digital cameras usually use. They should be quite cheap, but I don't know how much they sell outside of Singapore.
Oh, oops. You can go to simlim square, there's a shop on the 5th floor called best bargain. Their memory cards there are really cheap. Shouldn't cost more than S$15
That's the price of memory cards today. They're very cheap. That shop is quite reliable. Kingston memory cards come with a serial number and a website to verify whether the card is genuine, and they passed so far.
man apart fromt he english u speak... evything els is super.... inculding phone = i oqn the samsung omina i900 older version of this phone... its asol cool but sctreenn is not sensistive as the jet but it very good for a windows mobile phone 6.1...
Actually this isn't the Omnia 2. The Omnia 2 is the phone that looks like this and runs Windows Mobile. The Samsung Jet, in fact, isn't even a smart phone...
i am liking the fact they added a micro usb charger and a leather case! thats nice of them! When i get one I will still look out for a screen protector me's thinks! when i got my ipod touch i made the mistake of not geting one and its abit scratched up now! XD
i am also confused between samsung jet, samsung pixon m8800 and nokia 5800.
is samsung jet a good overall performer? how is the camera performance and audio output from the phone?
the pixon is a good camera and audion experience. but the interface is old & boring + it lacks wifi. all this is there in the jet. however jet has a 5 mega cam. i dont mind less pixles if it produces clean sharp images.
I'll check with DK w.r.t the camera quality. The Jet is essentially the new and heavily improved version of the Pixon when it comes to software. So yes, everything the Pixon can do, the Jet can do it better (and it has wifi_. Everything except, as you mentioned, the megapixels of the camera of course.
The Nokia 5800 is a smartphone, but was designed specifically for playing music. It also has the option of having "Comes With Music", nokia's unlimited music store. So e camera is not its strength
what about without contract. i am from india. if i purchase an unlocked version (just the mobile) without contract, how much will it cost in singapore?
It's around S$600 without contract. The usual guideline is add about S$200 to the cost. You can check out mobilesquare (.) com (.) sg, they have prices for the Jet in Singapore there. I usually go there to check for prices.
Do you mean the Omnia or the i8910 OmniaHD? Between the Jet and the 5800 I'd choose Jet, because the software feels better. However, the Jet isn't a smartphone, while the 5800 is, so I can download apps to install on the 5800 but not on the Samsung Jet, which to some people that's not a big deal at all.
lol "LUCKY winners at the LUCKY draw.".. u are a fukn LUCKY bro. i think i shud hitch a ride to samsung conventions more often... if they have any in nz..
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rashamba1000 9 months ago
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rashamba1000 9 months ago
anyone have this? does it scratch easily?
rumvodkaf1 1 year ago
Man... I speak and understand English perfectly... But I can barely understand you xD...
doku66655 2 years ago
is a cheap sim card
pratagod 2 years ago
not a cover is pouch retard
pratagod 2 years ago
ur english power sia learn more english not singish
pratagod 2 years ago
@pratagod At least he understands english, his obviously from a different culture, everyone has different accents. You need to learn more punctuation.
PrincessACR 1 year ago
retard dog talking
pratagod 2 years ago
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PrincessACR 1 year ago
@pratagod And also retard isn't a word you can use just like that, be more considerable to people. You wouldn't want others to use words like retard if you or someone close to you was one.
PrincessACR 1 year ago
whooaaa what an accent fuck me gay fuck me please
SteveCrank 2 years ago
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PrincessACR 1 year ago
@SteveCrank If you want to talk about accents, well then you should know that everyone from different cultures have different accents. Surely your not stupid.
PrincessACR 1 year ago
uh weda it good ya LOL his accent is jokes "so uh and a uh bat-rey .... wats dis ?? ..... uh OK OOOOH nice" 7:03 in the video he finds out its Samsung S8003
He says it like "oooo Samsun sss 00 tree"
LOL!....
SuperVids112 2 years ago
okay... SHUT THE FUCK UP retard.
TRoN1Ck 2 years ago
I dont stand your stop-speaking
TheLinuxMaster 2 years ago
blu-too
kathikinz 2 years ago
blow the monky trumpet when the complicated rhino tail swims off with your fingernail on a wednesday afternoon when the queen says when will the roof slate off you dinosaur lightbulb because the central heating has gone sticky and messy because the phone iss sooooo good
hahahahaha im soo funny, anyone agree
please replyy looooooool
tory770 2 years ago
find tricks
w w w. SamsungJetForum. com
motoroladroid 2 years ago
really? im gettin it for christmas and evry 1its saying its rubbish :(
Ki3x 2 years ago
you won it ???
lucky you
RandomDirectors 2 years ago
this guy rules
ler0me133 2 years ago 2
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i heard that the sound is bad is it good or bad please answer im going tobuy a new phone this week !! Thanks
lidde17 2 years ago
im getting this phone on fridayy ahhh i cant waiit :D
spam0211 2 years ago 5
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i got mine yesterday
MrOutkastic 2 years ago
Hi nice video is the sound good and is the camera good please help i dont know if i want ultra tuoch or jet
lidde17 2 years ago
trust mem get the jet the ultra touch is flawed
MrOutkastic 2 years ago
ultra better pictures same video smaller screen worst speed
jet worst pictures but stil good same video recording bigger screen faster much faster
got for jet i am too cause ultra is slow and only has a slightly better camera for pictures.
RandomDirectors 2 years ago
daymnn.. i can't wait to get this phone...from ominia 2, then 1, star and i've decided to get this one.. *Drools* x.x
officersue 2 years ago
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2001integraguy 2 years ago
borats brother whats up
burhanveburhan13 2 years ago 3
lololol ^^
rubbergigs 2 years ago
bcus the back of jet gets alot of fingerprint? my jet got fingerprint everywhere..
amzon3 2 years ago
i have the version with navigation, the packaging is different. it sucks compared to the normal version.
murfad 2 years ago
wah DK... you won N97 and Jet... How lucky you are... XD
renfred89 2 years ago
hey how much is it for ??
GaNeSh0014 2 years ago
oh wow golden tip on headphones !!!
QTheNev 2 years ago
Well i've just received my Samsung Jet today from Vodafone and wow its a sexy bitch of a phone,it was well worth the wait.
This is my first touch phone,went from Samsung slider straight to this and im well impressed. Fuck Orange and go with Vodafone.
lycanvsvampire 2 years ago
I like this review of the Jet.
Thinking of ordering one but unsure whether to get it on Vodafone or Orange ? any suggestions ?
lycanvsvampire 2 years ago
Hey, I've ordered mine on Vodafone, partly cos it's cheaper. I would think they're the same though.
flavaflow4 2 years ago
That's a good question, I don't really like Orange, every phone I've had from them they have basically messed with the operating system of the phone and put their own stuff on it which I hate...
BritishRider 2 years ago
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peter2kok 2 years ago
Thanks, fun to watch while I wait for my own :)
RemcoHitman 2 years ago 3
clearly he is from singapore..
tiochaota 2 years ago 2
lol. orgasm @ 5:07
rubbadubbaducky 2 years ago 2
second time @ 5:30
Ankstek013 2 years ago
When will it come out to the US???
Please Reply!!!
MrDover101 2 years ago
Is the Samsung Jet a Unlocked Phone??
MrDover101 2 years ago
taaaa daaa
lol
utubeme911 2 years ago
you're english is "GOOD"
propboi 2 years ago
damn your english rocks
itskv 2 years ago
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peter2kok 2 years ago
hes funny :P. good review. ur english is verry good.
krislemchelover 2 years ago
Me too! :D I can't wait!
shotchicken 2 years ago
That looks a nice phone. Which is better, this or the omnia i900? Does anyone know?
TWENTIETHCENTURYBABY 2 years ago
can anybody post a video of the omnia 2
yakuza030 2 years ago
We just received our Omnia 2 review unit. We should have a video up in a couple of weeks.
65bits 2 years ago
ok thnx
yakuza030 2 years ago
DK's a Chinese Singaporean.
65bits 2 years ago
samson samson het is een hele ondeugende maar ................ hond
Queridoflow22 2 years ago
Could you tell me if the Samsung JET allows you to choose your own background like the display background? for example say I got an image of my computer or photographed one myself on the phone will it allow me to make it my background?
J4MMY1 2 years ago
it will
HamsterDon 2 years ago
do you know if the audio codec is AAC?
I think it's an important info
deopisi 2 years ago
Do you mean if it supports AAC for music playback?
65bits 2 years ago
I'm not expert but I know that a problem of the Omnia hd is the bad audio during video recording due to the absence of AAC, so I'd like to know if this model has the AAC during video recording
deopisi 2 years ago
it has very clear audio while recording a video and e video recording is also amzing....it has beaten 5mp digital cameras tat are in the market and i think thats good enough already
yakuza030 2 years ago
i really enjoy watchin movie wif this phone i planned on buying an itouch but nw when i have this i dun think im gonna need an itouch already....im gonna enjoy this phone....and long bus rides wont be a boredom for me anymre
yakuza030 2 years ago
he sounds singaporean-ish. dont get me wrong, im singaporean too..
een110 2 years ago
man this guy is too slow....!
UTSAHCHAUDHARY 2 years ago
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mythicpixels 2 years ago
man this guy has a silly voice...
UTSAHCHAUDHARY 2 years ago
this phone has a very good audio quality in earphones and in speakers too...and yeah it does play good quality video on youtube......still trying to get msn on it though will keep u updated
yakuza030 2 years ago
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mythicpixels 2 years ago
what languages does the phone support? does it support korean?
iklee58 2 years ago
dis phone is bangin .
i just got it and played with it
it was coool . :)
uhmm .. where cxan i download widgets for free ??
ANTIkapusuckz 2 years ago
yupz i gt e hp alr its awesome.....and e pouch is damm tight juz lyk u mentioned...it kinda gets in the way when ure having an incoming call or msg..haha....and the incoming ringtone alert is damm loud even when the settings is not full...but my question does anybody knw hw i use the agps thingy
yakuza030 2 years ago
You can use the GPS by clicking on Google in the menu's first page, and then choosing Google Maps. However, do note that you need a data plan for Google to download the maps onto your phone
65bits 2 years ago
its says 2gb memory ??
i dnt get it . does it have 2gb olready it self or u have to buy?
ANTIkapusuckz 2 years ago
it has an internal memory of 2gb...and the speakers are awesome damm clear....battery life is damm good too i juz bought the hp yesterday....loving every bit of it
yakuza030 2 years ago
yeah im gonna buy the samsung jet tmr......im just wondering if every sales package in singapore include the hp pouch/case???
yakuza030 2 years ago
I believe it should :) Do check the package contents to make sure. The pouch is really tight though, quite difficult to pull the phone out...
65bits 2 years ago
whicon one is better ??
smsung jet n97 or w995??
ANTIkapusuckz 2 years ago
I haven't played with the w995, so I can't say which is better, but when compared with the N97, it depends what you want.
The N97 is a smartphone, so you can install lots of apps on it. It has 32GB of internal memory for music and videos too. It's quite a phyisical keyboard too, so that's good.
The Jet isn't a smartphone, so no 3rd party apps. But it's a lot cheaper, the camera is as good as the N97's, and it's smaller and lighter than the N97.
65bits 2 years ago
uhm ..
is it?
wow . it has huge memory . loolz
uhmmm .
what about the quality of the sound?
and the battery life of it?
ANTIkapusuckz 2 years ago
Quality of sound is pretty decent, though we're not audiophiles, but we're happy with it. On heavy usage, we could get it to last for about one and a half day
65bits 2 years ago
cn i dwnload free games?
yakuza030 2 years ago
Ofcourse there will be better phones, but at the moment, this phone is quite good, isn't it? I mean, it looks good, has a nice display/camera/interface etc. So is it worth buying it? :)
OwnerDutchie 2 years ago
If you don't want/need a smartphone, then sure! It's worth buying! In fact, it's not to expensive neither.
65bits 2 years ago
Thanks man :) And by the way, aren't smartphones like Omnia alsways laggy and slow?
OwnerDutchie 2 years ago
Well, it depends on the hardware and software combination. The HTC Diamond, for example, had good software, but the hardware wasn't powerful enough. When they came up with the Diamond2, they got the right hardware with a better software, and it wasn't as laggy or slow.
So the best way is to go try it for yourself :)
65bits 2 years ago
Thanks again :D
OwnerDutchie 2 years ago
""Sign up today for fun club" Ok ,maybe i sign later!" lmao
Deadcell205 2 years ago
Nope, they shouldn't. You're not paying for the web but rather for the mobile service that connects you to the internet using 3G. Therefore when you use WiFi, you're no longer using that mobile service to get you to the internet.
However, there are some WiFi locations that require you to pay to access it, but that is a separate thing from the mobile service.
65bits 2 years ago
samsung jet and omina plz be on t mobile and also skyfire web plz plz plz
15heartz 2 years ago
samsung jet and omina plz be on t mobile and also skyfire web plz plz plz
15heartz 2 years ago
hey 65bits...
do u know if this phone is for sprint,at&t. etc...
and i might get this phone next year...
do u think this phone is worth a whole year to get?
thanks
PsAiUmL 2 years ago
Considering the speed at which technology is progressing nowadays, I'm sure by next year there will be better phones coming out. The price of this phone should drop too. So my advice is if you can afford to wait, then why not?
The worst case scenario is that the newer phones are not as good or too expensive, then you can go back to buying this one, which will still work then. You don't always need the newest and fanciest phone to get things done on it.
65bits 2 years ago
How much did you pay for this? Or are you using Pay monthly?
Grim8701 2 years ago
The guy in the video, DK, won it in a lucky draw.
65bits 2 years ago
hey 65bits...
i might get this phone next year...
do you know the price and whether it will be with sprint, at&t, etc
PsAiUmL 2 years ago
Haha... Yeah... their ad campaign now is "Smarter than a smartphone" because it's not a smartphone... but it's smarter... :P
65bits 2 years ago
oh. thanks.
RainDropsOfLove 2 years ago
right. does it give the SD card?
thanks for the vid anyway,
phgoh 2 years ago
No, the standard package doesn't.
65bits 2 years ago
oh damn, i just bought it,.
i forgot to check back here,
how much is it selling?
is it the same as the camera one?
coz i saw that it wrote micro SD card
phgoh 2 years ago
Yes, microSD card. It's a smaller version from the one digital cameras usually use. They should be quite cheap, but I don't know how much they sell outside of Singapore.
65bits 2 years ago
eh, im from SG eh.
HAHAs.
just bought it from singtel just now.
phgoh 2 years ago
Oh, oops. You can go to simlim square, there's a shop on the 5th floor called best bargain. Their memory cards there are really cheap. Shouldn't cost more than S$15
65bits 2 years ago
oh okays., but is it good?
as in 15 bucks sound too cheap.
and its at sim lim sq somemore.
not any scamer shop right?
phgoh 2 years ago
That's the price of memory cards today. They're very cheap. That shop is quite reliable. Kingston memory cards come with a serial number and a website to verify whether the card is genuine, and they passed so far.
65bits 2 years ago
It running on Simbian or Windows Mobile?
BogdanSNB 2 years ago
This phone is not a smartphone.
They do have a name for their software though, they call it TouchWiz. But it's not a smartphone.
65bits 2 years ago
isnt simbian a nokia thing?
davidcoady87 2 years ago
Yes and no. Nokia uses symbian, and owned a major portion of symbian too, but it's licensed out to other companies. One of them is Samsung.
65bits 2 years ago
What cellular group is it with?? (ex: AT&T, Sprint, etc..)
chadypatty 2 years ago
I'm sorry, but we're located in Singapore, so we don't know which service provider carries it in the states.
65bits 2 years ago
Ok... No problem :l
chadypatty 2 years ago
What's the middle button for? Back or Menu or something else?
RainDropsOfLove 2 years ago
If you press it once, it goes to the menu. If you press and hold, it goes to a task manager
65bits 2 years ago
are u singaporean?
jirehtzl 2 years ago
Yep, DK and the rest of us at Tech65 are singaporean.
65bits 2 years ago
Yea man, gotta stop sending him to events, and start going for them myself :P - Daniel
65bits 2 years ago
man apart fromt he english u speak... evything els is super.... inculding phone = i oqn the samsung omina i900 older version of this phone... its asol cool but sctreenn is not sensistive as the jet but it very good for a windows mobile phone 6.1...
georgebest7968 2 years ago
Actually this isn't the Omnia 2. The Omnia 2 is the phone that looks like this and runs Windows Mobile. The Samsung Jet, in fact, isn't even a smart phone...
65bits 2 years ago
Thanx for the awesome unboxing :)
I have a question though ..
is the screen resistive or capacitive ?
H21Assassin19 2 years ago
Surprisingly, it's a resistive screen
65bits 2 years ago
nice review... thanks!
i am liking the fact they added a micro usb charger and a leather case! thats nice of them! When i get one I will still look out for a screen protector me's thinks! when i got my ipod touch i made the mistake of not geting one and its abit scratched up now! XD
ps i might sign up for the fun club too! ;-D
89x237 2 years ago
i am also confused between samsung jet, samsung pixon m8800 and nokia 5800.
is samsung jet a good overall performer? how is the camera performance and audio output from the phone?
the pixon is a good camera and audion experience. but the interface is old & boring + it lacks wifi. all this is there in the jet. however jet has a 5 mega cam. i dont mind less pixles if it produces clean sharp images.
please put some light on these factors.
sahityasahay 2 years ago
I'll check with DK w.r.t the camera quality. The Jet is essentially the new and heavily improved version of the Pixon when it comes to software. So yes, everything the Pixon can do, the Jet can do it better (and it has wifi_. Everything except, as you mentioned, the megapixels of the camera of course.
The Nokia 5800 is a smartphone, but was designed specifically for playing music. It also has the option of having "Comes With Music", nokia's unlimited music store. So e camera is not its strength
65bits 2 years ago
how much does this phone cost in singapore or dubai?
sahityasahay 2 years ago
In Singapore it's currently S$398 with a 2 year contract. We don't have info for outside of Singapore.
65bits 2 years ago
what about without contract. i am from india. if i purchase an unlocked version (just the mobile) without contract, how much will it cost in singapore?
thanks for the reply
sahityasahay 2 years ago
It's around S$600 without contract. The usual guideline is add about S$200 to the cost. You can check out mobilesquare (.) com (.) sg, they have prices for the Jet in Singapore there. I usually go there to check for prices.
65bits 2 years ago
thank you very much.
cheers
sahityasahay 2 years ago
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coolfx350 2 years ago
samsung jet, samsung omnia i900 or nokia 5800 please? which do you think is better
lydd57 2 years ago
Do you mean the Omnia or the i8910 OmniaHD? Between the Jet and the 5800 I'd choose Jet, because the software feels better. However, the Jet isn't a smartphone, while the 5800 is, so I can download apps to install on the 5800 but not on the Samsung Jet, which to some people that's not a big deal at all.
65bits 2 years ago
lol "LUCKY winners at the LUCKY draw.".. u are a fukn LUCKY bro. i think i shud hitch a ride to samsung conventions more often... if they have any in nz..
Swiperluck 2 years ago
Hey,Where did u buy this cell from?
gpaneva 2 years ago
That lucky bugger won it at the launch event's lucky draw...
65bits 2 years ago
WoW u r lucky
gpaneva 2 years ago
Only 2 GB internal? I'm disappointed. =(
Konve 2 years ago
it will come in 8GB AND 16GB i think.
Swiperluck 2 years ago
no. it comes in 2gb and 8gb
vepino13 2 years ago
oh my bad.. okay thats ok tho. thanx for correction.
Swiperluck 2 years ago
nice unboxing video! thx. it helps me to decide what phone to buy =) cheers
dgreatmojojojo 2 years ago
hey ....uploader or whoever , i need help.
How many colours are there for this phone?
the one in this video looks cool with the tinted red back.
BUT there is a full black one also right?
murukurox 2 years ago
As far as I know, only one colour is available now.
dk99 2 years ago
hmm im thinking of getting this fone soon
djzilchdotcom 2 years ago
Nice Phone.
I think I will buy it ....
I am wondering how much is it?
anson33319 2 years ago
you should unbox a phone too but talk in french language! i expect that you talk perfect!
Internetkiddy 2 years ago
dude you are a frustrated bitch. dont you know he is from singapore his english is weak. its good that he is trying. fuck is your problem.
seauryakumar 2 years ago 2
maybe the guy got a thing for touch phones....sensual
hellblazersharif 2 years ago 2
is it available there in SG.
how much for unlocked version
seauryakumar 2 years ago
think 400-500£
kjekkenerkiaksjon 2 years ago
when trying to open the battery cover he moans quite hard lol xD
telsell 2 years ago
You were lucky . I was there.
What time did you record this. So DARK!.
check out some of my videos at ocworkbench.
ocworkbench 2 years ago
is this video filmed in singapore ??
nathanfiorano1 2 years ago
yes, this video is recorded in Sg. :)
juzzywuzzy 2 years ago