@xxsharonxxyo lmao your blaming that on parents who dont spank? you must be one of the most ilogical people i have ever seen! and dont reply i hate arguing with people like you
@CptQuestionMark you can discipline your kids. you can't hit them. hitting children is not discipline, it's punishment. why would you want your kids to be punished. punishment is for grown ass adults that harm society. not small innocent kids.
@puppieeyes223 that made me roll my eyes... its hardly chinese torture, its a small smack on the bum. It most cases it probably doesnt even hurt. It just shocks you and makes you think twice about being naughty. Get over yourselves all of you. Like I said, if more parents started to discipline their kids properly maybe so many of them wouldn't grow up to be criminals with no respect for themselves... less alone other people.
@xxsharonxxyo chinese torture? what? i didn't say anything about chinese torture. if hitting them doesn't do anything then why do it at all. like i said before, got to a prison and do a survey and see how many of them tell you that they been spanked. i promise over 98% of them will tell you they been spanked. the belt or hand does NOT influence kids choices 24 hours a day for the rest of their lives. so keep rolling your eyes, your logic is screwed up. i hope you don't have kids
@puppieeyes223 exacly I was just making a point that its pretty harmless, its not abuse or torture in any way. Its a short sharp shock.... and thats what it does. It shocks you into not doing it again. Kids respect authority more and they dont become the vile scum we see around. For example the kids that are on the streets drinking and getting arrested and taken home where their parents don't do anything... so it happens again and BAM criminal! Very reasonable if you think about it.
@xxsharonxxyo go to any prison and do a survery. i'm pretty sure over 90% of them got spanked as kids. spanking does NOT work. explaining where they went wrong lies the true discipline in kids. not fucking hitting them.
@puppieeyes223 im not talking about full on abuse you moron, I ment a smack on the bum. Surely you cant tell me that is going to leave lasting psychological damage... If I ever did anything really bad thats what happened to me, it just taught me to respect my parents and be good. Go to any school now and do a survey on how many kids respect their parents who "explain" where they went wrong... Just look at all the druggie kids and teen pregnancies and tell me their parents can control them.
It's adverts like these that are turning our children into little bastards. Who are these people to say you can't punish your child? When I was little, I was smacked once. I never, ever did what I did again. Hence, no more smacks. Children these days are using this a way to control their parents. My brother went to smack my nephew after he'd done something wrong and the kid yelled that he'd 'go to the police' if my brother did it.
@LovinTheDharma I agree who the hell are The Council Of Europe to tell parents how to bring up and punish their kids when they do wrong? It's NOT up to them to interfere!
I'll raise my hand at anyone that tells me not to smack my kids... they've grown up to be excellent children! my grandad got smacked in turn smacking my dad and i got smacked when i did anything that i wasnt supposed to do or say... you ask my kids if they are happy with their punishment... seriously... inbox me and ill print it out and take it to the hospital to ask them...
I'm sorry, but my Mom spanked me when I was growing up, and i turned out to be a responsible young adult. on the other hand, I know a guy who, when I was sixteen, never got spanked, and he was a spoiled little asshole who never listened to anything he was told, and now he is in jail... what do you say to that?
Whilst i strongly oppose the state intervening in how a parent chooses to raise their child, I personally think that beating your children up (smacking if you will) is not only primitive but tantamount to physical bullying, b'coz lets face it, when your kids start really going off the rails (in their teens) i bet most of you wont be smacking them then, coz they'll be big enough to hit you back...
i get spanked (im 9) and really it doesn't give you any lesson all it does is hurt and then it's over and you can do whatever the hell you want THEN it happens again and again
I think the pro-spankers just like to brag about their beatings & wear it like a badge of honour coz they think it makes them look hard.....It's beyond me how someone could actually be proud of getting beaten up but we're all different i suppose...
@Galadwin Thank you! I'm not afraid to punish or discipline my son. But I will NOT cause him pain not even a little sting but I can and will teach him to respect people without hitting him
I was in a chat room for parents with ADD / ADHD kids, & I said that I bet none of them smack their kids... and the responce was that smacking a child is wrong & abuse.
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These parents all have children that they cant control, so they feed them drugs to control their emotions, and they think smacking the kid is abuse pff..
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Smacking a child is the best way to teach a child they did the wrong thing, just a smack, not a beating.
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If you try reason with a CHILD, you're just a moron.
@OZcheckm8 You're a moron if you hurt your kid!!! I hope you never are blessed with kids. You don't deserve them! If my son did decide he was Gay I would still love him and stand by him. But I will and have disciplined my son. He does listen to me and he does say thank you and have manners. You DON"T have to HURT your child to teach them you dumb fuck. My mom hit me and I hit her back when I got bigger. I still don't respect her to this day. And she didn't teach me anything but to lie to get out
BTW I was an asshole of a kid, & I was turned into the kid all the parents love.. I know why i was a little dick too, lack of discipline during my folks divorce. But, my mum sorted it out, she would always give me the option for a smack, or being grounded if I caused trouble. The worst thing I got was for being caught stealing, & I got the belt on the ass. I never stole again.
@OZcheckm8 My mom did the whole "I love you and this is why I'm spanking you." thing. She did hug me afterwards but I wouldn't return her hug. I didn't want to be touched but someone who would even cause me a little sting at times. I don't even feel it's right to cause your kid a sting. I have only very very lightly tapped my son's hand but I made sure I didn't make it sting or hurt at all, it was only to get him to focus on me.
And I stole twice. My mom also spanked me with a brush and I
@tnpnc something out of fear of physical pain not really not to do something cause it is morally wrong. And non-physical punishments really do sever the pure trust and bond with parent and child. And I don't give a damn what you pro-spankers say, you only love your parents and they brain washed you into thinking they were right.
At least my mom now sees she was wrong. It is illegal now in the US to spank your child with anything other than a hand more than 5 times. I hope it becomes all illeg
I think you need professional advice - its people like you who end up having crazy assed kids who have no respect for adults or authority, because their own parents are affraid of smacking their ass. Sorry to be so blunt, but i'm sick of out of control kids, and slack assed, politically correct parents.
@OZcheckm8 i do respect adults when they respect me also. And so will my son. My mom beat my ass and where did it get her?? It's stupid violent cold ass uncaring fuckers like u who don't need kids and only think hurting them will teach them anything!
@OZcheckm8 and i know a lot of people who were NEVER hit by their parents not even once in their life and are great people. Never been in trouble with the law, are succesful people in jobs, always respect anyone and do whatever they can for anyone in need. And also never have cussed in their life!
SO don't give me the shit about kids who aren't smacked/spanked will turn into bad people and brats and no respect for authroity. My dad tought me you give respect first to recieve it andtreat othe
Damn, you call your mum a stupid bitch?? My mum would have broken a wooden spoon over my ass if i said that... maybe you eat too much sugar or something, you seem like a little shit...... and I thought you WERE an adult... your kids a little kid who doesn't like being smacked LOL.
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Maybe when you get older, you'll realise your parents did it to help you. Grow up & stop being a little bitch.
@OZcheckm8 You are such a dumbass. I'm a 27 yr old married adult now with a 2 yr old son. And my son we taught to bite his grandmother when she smacked his hand when he tried to touch the stove and he did. And when we told him not to touch the stove with our methods he never did it again.
And my mom did hit me again when I called her a bitch even harder, I just called her a stupid fucking bitch and broke a pic frame. I was 4 years old. My dad gave me a non-physical punishment and I never cus
Damn straight i want to be superior to a child. Thats your problem, you treat a 4 year old like an adult.
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Here's the irony in what you are doing. You just taught a 2y.o its OK to hurt his Grandma if she tries to diciplin him.
NOW, if your kid can assult his own family & get away with it, imagine what he'll be like in the real world when he's older - someone will eventually teach him, & it'll be worse then a smack on the bum, he'll be in jail, or bashed.
@OZcheckm8 rigght and its perfectly ok for grandma to hurt him?? hell no!! That's what im teaching my son! if someone hurts him he has a right to hurt them right back! Yes even if it is his own family. My husband and I are only teaching him it is ok to defend himself. We don't smack him, but we do TEACH him. And he does listen to us
You know I am not sure if either of you (tnpnc and OZcheckm8) are really grown up yet, as for one you are arguing over youtube and also you keep going on about your kids and how you tell them off but really why bother, neither of you will listen to each other cause you both think you are right.
@OZcheckm8 stole again just to prove to her spanking wouldn't do shit for me. But then my dad punished me. He DID NOT HIT me at all! He made me go to the store and apologize and have the store owner explain what he could do to me if I was older and stole I'd get arrested. And then I had to go to bed for a week very early and no treats or tv or fun priveledges. I never stole again after that.
So I think non-physical punishments teach better. All physical punishments teach is to not do somethi
Maybe it just comes down to the kid, it worked for me, BUT - its kind of counter productive to do what your mum did, she spanked you then said she loves you and gave you a hug.... thats sending you mixed messages, and it also gives you, the child, some hand.. meaning when you got smacked and she gave you a hug, thats when you thought it was your turn to give her the guilt trip, because your mum didn't carry out the punishment, she just hit you, then hugged you - pointless.
@OZcheckm8 No she did that to let me know she did love me but she had to punish me. She said she punished me the only way she thought was right at the time because it is how her parents raised her. My father chose to break the cycle of violence and that is the best way.
I would have given her the same thing even if she hadn't hugged me. I still would have called her a stupid bitch and told her I hated her. And to this day I've told her I don't forgive her fully. Because spanking is never rig
@OZcheckm8 OH and I'm not afraid of smackin my son's ass, I just don't want to cause causing him pain from me and his father won't get the results we want, only fear and less trustful of us so we use methods to teach him and still keep the bond
@OZcheckm8 I rebelled when I turned a teenager and I did graduate but I skipped school a lot. And so no spanking doesn't always produce GREAT law-abiding respectful citizens.
Maybe you & your mum need to learn the difference between a smack, and assult.
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If my son decided he was gay I'd also stand by him, & he would obviously be old enough to reason with & not smack. Smacking is only useful for real young kids, and before you freak out, I'm talking about a smack that is so soft it would never leave a mark, its shock factor, & its worked for as long as humans have lived.
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Just because you are overly PC it doesn't rewrite basic nature
@simotastic1 I have a kid and never ever would cause him physically pain NO matter what he does! And spanking does hurt! Unless you very very lightly tap the child but then why even touch them in the first place? Just don't hit!
smacking didnt teach me anything when I was younger, I just turned around and did it again! All it taught me was my mother was mean for hurting me and when I got older I could hit back when I got hit. And I did hit her back when I was a teen.
spanking/smacking is NEVER a good discipline tool. Other methods DO work. Lazy parents smack. And when a kid runs into the road and you smack them and tell them they couldve gotten hurt thats hypocrisy. Cause you just hurt them!!! so they did get hurt anyway!! Morons
If you have got children who won't listen to reason despite your best efforts to try and correct the situation by other methods, then when all else has failed a quick smack on the bot brings the bad behaviour to a swift conclusion and shows the kids "enough is enough". It is NOT despite what all of you say ABUSE AT ALL. If the child carries on despite the smack then you ground them for long periods,withdraw their priveleges like going out with friends.
I thought my step-father was joking with me. I said my head hurt, he said, "Well go away from the TV then" To scoot me off the couch (thought he was joking) I said, "no," playfully. He pulled my hair while I had a headache and pushed me to the floor and started yelling at me.
There's no need for such primitive behavior. It's just not ethical.
im 16 and believe me theres nothing wrong with a smack. I got a smack when I did somthing wrong and it made me a better person cus i knew I would never do it again.
That's a very naive view. Children are different in their personalities and that's independent from their parents' behaviour. Especially in families with many children, you'll always see a range of personalities which can be very diverse, even though the kids were brought up under identical conditions. So in order to to do your job as a parent properly, you have to adapt your method to the child. Whenever possible, smacking should be avoided, but there are cases when it's entirely appropriate.
Who is "we"? Some kids are easier to raise others are more difficult.. You have to adapt the method of teaching and disciplining to the personality of the child, obviously. It would be daft beating the shit out of a friendly, placid child as it would be to be really nice and gentle to a nasty little brat.
smacking children is absolutely essential for enforcing boundaries and gives the child important lessons in consequences for wrongful behaviour, something that todays teenages lack due to not being smacked.
this has resulted in the " blameless society " where todays youth are incapable of accepting the consequences for there actions. physically disciplining a child for misconduct is a " natural " response that all animals exhibit towards there young to maintain social order.
A lot of people here aren't bothered about the long-term effects of hitting your child without rational explanation, they just want the right to beat their kids......completely selfish. No wonder ur kid's aren't listening to you....
I got smacked as a kid and I can definitely say i'm a better person for it. I'm now a government interpreter working in the Spanish embassy with a beautiful wife and two kids who i love dearly. If my kids are bad I smack them, if they're good I show encouragement and love. Simple as that. But as always, each to their own I suppose.
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failure to smack a child in its early years is neglectful parenting full stop. when you see a child throwing a tantrum it is a clear sign that the parents have failed to smack there child in its early years so the child knows it can ignore there verbal commands. failure to smack is child abuse.
i want to raise my kid with respect, not fear. I want to know that he knows what is right and what is wrong even when im not around. Temper tantrums? then go beat your kid cause he wetted his bed. Ever get really stressed out or angry? that's a adult temper tantrum. When i was little, i got smacked, hitted with belts, and back then i felt like shit. I was always confused, there was dad, and then there was like this monster. I had nightmares about it all the time, when i was little.
Beating your kid with a belt for wetting the bed is of course stupid and brutal because it's not done out of bad intent. It's an accident. And a belt or other instruments have nothing to do with smacking. Unfortunately, in this whole discussion, no distinction is made between the justified well-considered smack on the backside as a consequence of willful bad behaviour and the unjustified harsh corporal punishment which is not related to the kid's bad intent and which constitutes physical abuse.
I'm delighted that good-hearted government bureaucrats will grant themselves jurisdiction to one day regulate ever last possible exchange of human interaction.
That day cannot arrive soon enough.
We don't deserve our liberty and need to be told what to think, say, and do.
right... so if you found out your child had just been throwing rocks at cars, threw the cat in the pool, pulling siblings hair, drawing on the walls etc etc... you just caress them and say "no bubby, don't do that again"
BS smack them on the ass and say 'goto your room'
Political correctness is bullshit, smacking a child to teach them consequences is different from bashing your kids. wake up to yourselves and try butt out of other peoples lives ffs
firstly, that's a completely hypothetical situation, second of all, if a child is doing all that simultaneously then i would have 2 question it's upbringing.
why are some people unable to reason with their child, at any age? just smacking them & sending them 2 their room is lazy...
Yes you can, but the child will run around you and be the authoritative figure, im sick of the selfish greedy demanding youth of today, sometimes sticking a child in the corner or taking away privileges doesn't work, because they know they are going to get them back. Big difference between discipline and abuse, figure it out , tap on the bum is fine.
Of course you can punish a kid without hitting it. There are lots of unpleasant things that a child would perceive as punishment. Whether that's more humane or effective is the other question.
kids should be discipled i was smack as a kid and ill do it too mine you people should wake up and stop being so touchy touchy on the most stupidest things
Did you give me ANY evidence??? You didn't give me one study or shit you just told me that some children need to be hit...you're so damn dumb. Now leave me the fuck alone. You are a bully if you hit smaller people , wanna hear it or not. There are millions of studies I could fucking show that prove how well behaved non-spanked children can be, how bare ass spankings can cause sexual fetishes...BUT WHY THE FUCK WASTE MY TIME??? Oh and by the way, I'm Jesus so you better believe what I say....LOL
Stop with your profession shit already. Nobody believes you. By the way she was spanked till she turned 10, not as a teen. But I'm done with this discussion, you don't want to see the facts anyways.
OMG JUST BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAVE THAT EFFECT ON THEM DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT DIDN'T HAVE THAT EFFECT ON OTHER PEOPLE!!! People react differently. The fact is that many people developed such kinks because of spanking. And what kind of parent would risk that? You are only looking down on that women because she says things that you don't like to hear...the truth...
It's not about a quick spelling mistake, I don't make fun of people for such a crap. Happens to me too. But you mispelt that word more than once. That's why I don't believe you for shit.
I'm not saying that a light smack is BEATING. But it is HITTING. And honestly, that's not what I criticize so much.That's not what makes me so sick. I wouldn't do it to my children, but what I hate most is things like hitting with belts, over the knee or bare ass and stuff like that. IT IS STILL VERY COMMON IN THE USA!!! AND THAT'S CHILD ABUSE FOR SURE AND IT IS BEATING!!!
That's just not true. There are always alternatives to hitting. If a child is so out of control that those alternatives don't work then it needs professional help.
lol those questions have NOTHING to do with the spanking argument. The only thing you need to know is that I was never spanked by my parents and I never was in trouble. I didn|t do drugs, I didn|t have any probs at school, my teachers loved me... and one of my friends, who was spanked, was already drunk at age 14 and did not get a job...And that|s why the arguments of the spankers just don|t make sense!!
anyone wanting to know the proper understanding of christian corporal punishment should watch the video on youtube called christian corporal punishment? and read all my comments and others under the video.
I never said they are SATANIC. They are evil and sadistic people who need psychological help. They also need to get an education.I never said that these people worship Satan. I know that they can be Christians, Jews, Hindus, Muslims, etc...
I never stated the religious views of individuals who hit children- they could be Jewish, Hindu, Christian, Muslim,etc...You obviously are not a psychologist, nor do you have a degree. Just so you know: Atheist-One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods.
I don't believe that a devil exists- there's no evidence for it.
"war are not though by people smacking each other they are though will guns and weopons "- you are right. However, if we shun the notion of hittng people, wouldn't we shun the notion of killing them too. Also, I think that people should be in jail for making guns, but that's another issue I can discuss later.
physical discipline is not Abuse its correction if parents did not do this kids would be running around doing whatever they want and grow up to be spoiled brats im so glad that in my home in Central America parents still discipline there children like there suppose to instead of the child abuse BS that these guys are promoting
What "child abuse BS that these guys are promoting"?- what are you referring to? I'm not promoting child abuse, I'm condemning child abuse, while promoting children's rights. You're promoting child abuse and cruelty.
You will never end the smacking or regimenting of children. There will ALWAYS be an underground of secret smackers. You can do nothing about it. It's hilarious to watch your futile efforts.If you imagine hard enough, you can hear the smacks, and even if you can't imagine it (which is probably the case since YOU have nothing resembling an imagination,) smacks revovle around the world with a deafening force.
"Certain States have tried to distinguish between the correction of children and excessive violence. In reality the dividing line between the two is artificial...
It is very easy to pass from one stage to the other. It is also a question of principle. If it is not permissible to beat an adult, why should it be permissible to do so to a child? One of the contributions of the Convention is to call attention to the contradictions in our attitudes and cultures."
Concluding statement to Committee on the Rights of the Child General Discussion on Children's Rights in the Family, October 1994
ok ive been reading your comments intellectual and you say "violence is violence" and you claim that parents should be arrested for hitting there children but think of this if parents just let there kids run around doing whatever they please disrespecting other people growing up rude and spoiled and then have them run into a school or something packing a nine and point blank people in the face and finally cap one in there own head? is that what you want mister human rights
"if parents just let there kids run around doing whatever they please"- big straw-man. I NEVER said anything like that. Please quote from any of my previous comments that say that children should be allowed to do whatever they like. I'm against VIOLENCE, and I'm equally against ANARCHY as well. There are 1000s of kids who get spanked and do the actions that you have just described.
well that's what happens when there is no physical discipline they grow up to be spoiled law less brats who eventually turn into homicidal phsycopaths who put bullets in random people
Please quote from any of my previous comments that say that children should be allowed to do whatever they like.- You have yet to do so. "when there is no physical discipline they grow up to be spoiled law less brats who eventually turn into homicidal phsycopaths who put bullets in random people"- Not true, and there are many studies that show this. However, if you know of any studies that prove your point, then, please send me a message with a link to it. BTW, anecdotes don't count as studies.
Until you provide me with a study that proves this claim, I will question it, since I've read studies that prove the opposite. Until you send me a message with a link to a study, I will stop responding to your comments.
"run into a school or something packing a nine and point blank people in the face and finally cap one in there own head?"- no, being mr. (even though I'm a girl) human rights, I acknowledge the human rights of all the other students, teachers, and other staff members of schools, as well, which include the right to live.
I wish to live in a world w/ 0 crime and 0 violence and 0 cruelty to humans (and animals). The above mentioned is my dream, and I know that it's VERY different from reality.
Did you read my comment at all? Do you understand what it says? All I'm asking for is evidence of your claim. Please send me a message with a link to studies that prove "when there is no physical discipline they grow up to be spoiled law less brats who eventually turn into homicidal phsycopaths". You assert this without presenting an ounce of evidence. If you can provide evidence (published studies), then, I will have reason to believe your claim.
You just can't find no arguments, can you?? Why don't you just shut up if you actually have nothing to say that makes sense??? I'm so sick of uneducated bullies like you...
bullies so if you just let the brat get away with everything without physical consequence they will consider you to be weak or to passive and will think they can get away with anything making them rebellious and often challenging the authority of there parents who have been raising them and providing food,clothing,housing to them as well as educating them sometimes discipline is necessary this is not about bullying
There are so many educated, polite children or adults who have never been spanked. Why do you not want to see the facts? By the way, it is statistically proven that the more educated people are, the less likely are they going to spank their kids. Coincidence? No, only dumb and uneducated pricks hit their children...
"when you craddle you child in your arms that if your hand touches there behind that they are then child sex abusers who worship the devil? "- Yes, but I can't state what the person's religion is- there are child abusers that follow several different religions.
"small smack on the back of the leg or behind does nothing "- it doesn't hurt YOU, but it hurts the child physically and psychologically- that's the reason it should be banned.
You insulted me for being on anti-depressants, as if that was something that I should be ashamed of, and I'm not. That would be like insulting somebody that is sick and goes to the doctor and takes medicine to treat whatever condition the person may have.
If you were a REAL psychologist (which you claimed to be, but couldn't even spell the word), then you would know about the 100s of studies that show that hitting chidlren can cause psychological damage, the way that it did with you and me. "i have plenty of compastion"- you don't have to prove anything to me.
Do you think I should have killed the baby (gotten an abortion) or had the child and abandoned him (giving him up for "adoption"- which in many cases no one will come and adopt the child)?
"if your on anti depresants and acted like that i wouldnt truat you to raise a child "
Would you prefer for me to actually have depression and not take medicine for it? If you are sick, then you have to go to the doctor and get medication or it- that's exactly what I did. You need help too, that's the reason why I recommended for you to see a therapist.
Did you not read my post?? "My mistakes are also not my mother's fault either,just to clear that up." I KNOW that it's wrong to steal, and yes, I did it and it was WRONG. I'm not blaming my mother, she herself knows that MY mistakes are not HER fault. My argument was that hitting children doesn't PREVENT them from doing stupid things. Do you get it now? If not, then please read what I've written before.
Who did I blame? When did I say that it's your fault or my mother's fault that I did what I did? You are in denial and it did do you harm, you are carrying the psychological scars from being hit, and I'm carrying them too, but I know that I have them and you don't know that you have them.
My mistakes are also not my mother's fault either,just to clear that up.Yes, I have certain problems,but I'm seeking help- the same thing that I recommend for you to do. You are in denial of your hatred of children, you even call me childish and mean it like an insult, as if being a child was a mortal sin. My point in my other post was that spanking didn't prevent me from doing stupid stuff.I learned right from wrong eventually,but not from my mother spanking me, a fact which she also recognizes
you constantly call people retards that disagree with you. I never called you any names and I never used any profacnity in my posts, unlike many of yours.
your language truly shows that spanking does not teach people to be polite or compassionate. You seem to hate children and the mentally disabled. I recommend you see a therapist to work those issues out.
Btw, I told you I accepted her apology...thus I'm not holding a grudge if tha's what you're thinking. My life is NOT perfect...I had a baby when I was too young, I did drugs back in high school, got arrested for stealing five times, and take anti-depressants every day. Spanking didn't prevent me from doing all those things when I was a teenager- in fact I did drugs to spite my mother for hitting me, the same with having sex w/ my ex-boyfriend. Please think about this
"in my opinon i dont think that you have experienced life fully yet to be able to pass judgement on whatis right and wrong yet"- then who does?! Do you have to be 100 to know what's right and wrong? BTW what 's right and what's wrong don't change- only perceptions (public opinion) of right and wrong change.
@intellectual1988 My mom also apologized to me for spanking me. She said she wished she could go back and raised me without it cause it hurt our relationship and made me worse. She is proud of me for not spanking my son. She said she only did it because that was how she was raised.
As an adult do you now lay in bed crying over the time you got into trouble as a child and got a spanking hahaha.
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Smacking a kid has many benefits, psysical & psychologial. Parents who dont smack their kid often give their kid attitude problems because they feel like they are equal to an adult & can back chat. Karma comes into play, & these smart assed kids usually get bashed at school & they learn their life lessons from others. You are such a pussy parent - your kids will be gay
I didn't solicit the apology. My mother simply told me the other day- "I'm sorry I hit you when you were younger. I was foolish and ignorant. " There's nothing wrong w/ correcting inappropriate behavior, but correction does NOT equal hitting!! You are trying to do the strawman argument: that i think kids should be allowed to run wild... I dont and neither does any sane intelligent person. I'm saying that there are 100s of other ways to teach children right from wrong that don't involve violence.
1-yes,i have a 2 year old son whom I've never hit. 2- i'm in college, majoring in biology, 3- I was hit, but i forgive my mother for putting me through that- but i still think it's wrong and she regrets it and has apologized to me 4- from Mexico, living in US 5- profession: student and part-time babystitter. I have one question for you: how are the questions about my personal life relevant to the discussion on spanking children?
Nothing (nobody and no animals either) deserves corporal punishment. You look @ the 60s w/ rose-colored glasses. They had the same problems back then- violent crime, teenage pregnancy, war, disrespectful/rude people..." Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"- Albert Einstein. You want to keep hitting children and expect progress that has not been made bit hitting children. You didn't respond to my other comment.
I'm not against ALL punishment- I'm against CORPORAL punishment. What you tried to make is a straw-man arguement. If you "never do it again" in order to avoid a beating- that's not morality- that's just sucking up.
Luckily, I was not born with a mental disability, but I can see your contempt for people who were. I did say that people enjoy hitting children- that's true, but many will NOT admit it. Seeing that you call me names sure demonstrates that being hit taught you very good manners.
if i was to spank her and always answer because i said so,im your elder,that will not stop her.FLESH DESIRES are very strong to overcome.without knowledge of this desires one can suffer from them.if u explain to the child the dangers of fullfilling these desires,he or she will change
i mean real prison arrest,juvenile-child prisons.parents are very illogical in disciplining children.for instance,you tell a kid,dont bring in girls in my house,the kid asks,why not?you answer coz i said so.the child will bring the girl even if u refused,bcoz they dont know the consequences of going against your command,like being falsely accused of rape,impregnating the girl,or get killed by the girl's father.u need to explain why and the kid would understand,not just spanking!!
parents usually smack children for stupid things like not picking up toys,they should not spank but arrest the kids,so that they can feel the consequences of breaking the law,spanking only creates people who only know violence as the only way to solve conflicts!!
my cousin used to be spanked as a child because he used to fail to obey orders from elders even if they were immoral?over the years till he grew up,he shared same beliefs that children(CITIZENS) should obey the government(PARENT/ELDER) no matter what.he was a soldier in zimbabwe,he was involved in the genocide gurukhandi,he obeyed mugabe no mater what,he never grew up to know what is right and wrong except that any governing authority is right no matter what,is this what u want for humanity!!
It's easy to look back and say it was necessary for your discipline, but at the time, when you believe your parents are always protecting you, then? It's terrifying. I have the evidence scrawled in my diary in a younger hand.
What if the smack was on the face? And it left a bruise, or cut the lip? Why do we condone unseen domestic violence?
This is teaching to fear. It is an effective method, but like all forms of domestic violence, morally unsound.
Arguing with pro spankers is like arguing with toddlers. You just can't reason with them, plain and simple!
GenX6887 1 week ago
we are afraid of looking bad and thats why we dont spank, and thats why kids do whatever the hell they want now
rayblack2004 3 weeks ago
@xxsharonxxyo lmao your blaming that on parents who dont spank? you must be one of the most ilogical people i have ever seen! and dont reply i hate arguing with people like you
gorillas400 3 weeks ago
My parents smacking me didn't really do anything to me as a person. It was the nuns at catholic school that really fucked me up
MrMeat42 4 months ago
It's a shame that you can't discipline your child in europe.
CptQuestionMark 4 months ago
@CptQuestionMark you can discipline your kids. you can't hit them. hitting children is not discipline, it's punishment. why would you want your kids to be punished. punishment is for grown ass adults that harm society. not small innocent kids.
puppieeyes223 3 months ago in playlist puppieeyes223's favorites
@puppieeyes223 that made me roll my eyes... its hardly chinese torture, its a small smack on the bum. It most cases it probably doesnt even hurt. It just shocks you and makes you think twice about being naughty. Get over yourselves all of you. Like I said, if more parents started to discipline their kids properly maybe so many of them wouldn't grow up to be criminals with no respect for themselves... less alone other people.
xxsharonxxyo 3 months ago
@xxsharonxxyo chinese torture? what? i didn't say anything about chinese torture. if hitting them doesn't do anything then why do it at all. like i said before, got to a prison and do a survey and see how many of them tell you that they been spanked. i promise over 98% of them will tell you they been spanked. the belt or hand does NOT influence kids choices 24 hours a day for the rest of their lives. so keep rolling your eyes, your logic is screwed up. i hope you don't have kids
puppieeyes223 3 months ago
@puppieeyes223 exacly I was just making a point that its pretty harmless, its not abuse or torture in any way. Its a short sharp shock.... and thats what it does. It shocks you into not doing it again. Kids respect authority more and they dont become the vile scum we see around. For example the kids that are on the streets drinking and getting arrested and taken home where their parents don't do anything... so it happens again and BAM criminal! Very reasonable if you think about it.
xxsharonxxyo 3 months ago
@xxsharonxxyo no, its' not. your logic is stupid and unreasonable and i'm not replying to you anymore because you don't make any sense.
puppieeyes223 3 months ago
maybe if more people gave their scummy annoying irritating child a smack on the bum, they wouldnt grow up to be such assholes. Fact.
xxsharonxxyo 6 months ago
@xxsharonxxyo go to any prison and do a survery. i'm pretty sure over 90% of them got spanked as kids. spanking does NOT work. explaining where they went wrong lies the true discipline in kids. not fucking hitting them.
puppieeyes223 3 months ago in playlist puppieeyes223's favorites
@puppieeyes223 im not talking about full on abuse you moron, I ment a smack on the bum. Surely you cant tell me that is going to leave lasting psychological damage... If I ever did anything really bad thats what happened to me, it just taught me to respect my parents and be good. Go to any school now and do a survey on how many kids respect their parents who "explain" where they went wrong... Just look at all the druggie kids and teen pregnancies and tell me their parents can control them.
xxsharonxxyo 3 months ago
Spanking works. my parents spanked me and I have never been arrested or gone to jail or in general been in trouble with the law.
Elwyndor 7 months ago
It's adverts like these that are turning our children into little bastards. Who are these people to say you can't punish your child? When I was little, I was smacked once. I never, ever did what I did again. Hence, no more smacks. Children these days are using this a way to control their parents. My brother went to smack my nephew after he'd done something wrong and the kid yelled that he'd 'go to the police' if my brother did it.
He got two smacks after that. Never did it again.
LovinTheDharma 7 months ago
@LovinTheDharma I agree who the hell are The Council Of Europe to tell parents how to bring up and punish their kids when they do wrong? It's NOT up to them to interfere!
AnthonyUK 4 months ago
I'll raise my hand at anyone that tells me not to smack my kids... they've grown up to be excellent children! my grandad got smacked in turn smacking my dad and i got smacked when i did anything that i wasnt supposed to do or say... you ask my kids if they are happy with their punishment... seriously... inbox me and ill print it out and take it to the hospital to ask them...
lemmingGTP 8 months ago 2
With spanking --> X children don't turn into monsters, Y children turn into monsters
X > Y
Without spanking, Y > X.
Hence, with spanking, the world will be a better place overall. Peace.
ViVi80 9 months ago
13 assholes are child abusers.
puppieeyes223 9 months ago 2
hi
chaoszero47 11 months ago
tnpnc is a fucken asshole
chaoszero47 11 months ago
@chaoszero47 too right he is!
AnthonyUK 4 months ago
This ad is common sense.
yaddleskidaddle 1 year ago
smacking is cool ...:-D
CapitanoGUC 1 year ago
I'm sorry, but my Mom spanked me when I was growing up, and i turned out to be a responsible young adult. on the other hand, I know a guy who, when I was sixteen, never got spanked, and he was a spoiled little asshole who never listened to anything he was told, and now he is in jail... what do you say to that?
jdh4932 1 year ago 2
Whilst i strongly oppose the state intervening in how a parent chooses to raise their child, I personally think that beating your children up (smacking if you will) is not only primitive but tantamount to physical bullying, b'coz lets face it, when your kids start really going off the rails (in their teens) i bet most of you wont be smacking them then, coz they'll be big enough to hit you back...
supahdupahguy81 1 year ago
i get spanked (im 9) and really it doesn't give you any lesson all it does is hurt and then it's over and you can do whatever the hell you want THEN it happens again and again
panda3951 1 year ago
Spankings did nothing for me. I was a rebel. I still
...did whatever the hell I wanted to do anyway, and to this day, I dare
someone tell me how to live my life. You don't have to be a parent to
know. You have to be a child. The problem with the pro-spankers is that
they have a blind-loyalty toward their parents and will never admit
that they made any mistakes. So, it's always easier to say, "I deserved
it" then to face reality which is A LOT harder than any kind of ass-whoopin'!
tnpnc 1 year ago 9
@tnpnc
I think the pro-spankers just like to brag about their beatings & wear it like a badge of honour coz they think it makes them look hard.....It's beyond me how someone could actually be proud of getting beaten up but we're all different i suppose...
supahdupahguy81 1 year ago
You don't need to hit, but you don't have to be afraid of correcting or parenting.
See Spoil the Rod and Spare the Child at brianknows com
Galadwin 1 year ago
@Galadwin Thank you! I'm not afraid to punish or discipline my son. But I will NOT cause him pain not even a little sting but I can and will teach him to respect people without hitting him
tnpnc 1 year ago
I was in a chat room for parents with ADD / ADHD kids, & I said that I bet none of them smack their kids... and the responce was that smacking a child is wrong & abuse.
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These parents all have children that they cant control, so they feed them drugs to control their emotions, and they think smacking the kid is abuse pff..
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Smacking a child is the best way to teach a child they did the wrong thing, just a smack, not a beating.
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If you try reason with a CHILD, you're just a moron.
OZcheckm8 1 year ago
@OZcheckm8 You're a moron if you hurt your kid!!! I hope you never are blessed with kids. You don't deserve them! If my son did decide he was Gay I would still love him and stand by him. But I will and have disciplined my son. He does listen to me and he does say thank you and have manners. You DON"T have to HURT your child to teach them you dumb fuck. My mom hit me and I hit her back when I got bigger. I still don't respect her to this day. And she didn't teach me anything but to lie to get out
tnpnc 1 year ago
@tnpnc
BTW I was an asshole of a kid, & I was turned into the kid all the parents love.. I know why i was a little dick too, lack of discipline during my folks divorce. But, my mum sorted it out, she would always give me the option for a smack, or being grounded if I caused trouble. The worst thing I got was for being caught stealing, & I got the belt on the ass. I never stole again.
OZcheckm8 1 year ago
@OZcheckm8 My mom did the whole "I love you and this is why I'm spanking you." thing. She did hug me afterwards but I wouldn't return her hug. I didn't want to be touched but someone who would even cause me a little sting at times. I don't even feel it's right to cause your kid a sting. I have only very very lightly tapped my son's hand but I made sure I didn't make it sting or hurt at all, it was only to get him to focus on me.
And I stole twice. My mom also spanked me with a brush and I
tnpnc 1 year ago
@tnpnc something out of fear of physical pain not really not to do something cause it is morally wrong. And non-physical punishments really do sever the pure trust and bond with parent and child. And I don't give a damn what you pro-spankers say, you only love your parents and they brain washed you into thinking they were right.
At least my mom now sees she was wrong. It is illegal now in the US to spank your child with anything other than a hand more than 5 times. I hope it becomes all illeg
tnpnc 1 year ago
@tnpnc
I think you need professional advice - its people like you who end up having crazy assed kids who have no respect for adults or authority, because their own parents are affraid of smacking their ass. Sorry to be so blunt, but i'm sick of out of control kids, and slack assed, politically correct parents.
OZcheckm8 1 year ago
@OZcheckm8 i do respect adults when they respect me also. And so will my son. My mom beat my ass and where did it get her?? It's stupid violent cold ass uncaring fuckers like u who don't need kids and only think hurting them will teach them anything!
tnpnc 1 year ago
@OZcheckm8 and i know a lot of people who were NEVER hit by their parents not even once in their life and are great people. Never been in trouble with the law, are succesful people in jobs, always respect anyone and do whatever they can for anyone in need. And also never have cussed in their life!
SO don't give me the shit about kids who aren't smacked/spanked will turn into bad people and brats and no respect for authroity. My dad tought me you give respect first to recieve it andtreat othe
tnpnc 1 year ago
@tnpnc
Damn, you call your mum a stupid bitch?? My mum would have broken a wooden spoon over my ass if i said that... maybe you eat too much sugar or something, you seem like a little shit...... and I thought you WERE an adult... your kids a little kid who doesn't like being smacked LOL.
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Maybe when you get older, you'll realise your parents did it to help you. Grow up & stop being a little bitch.
OZcheckm8 1 year ago
@OZcheckm8 You are such a dumbass. I'm a 27 yr old married adult now with a 2 yr old son. And my son we taught to bite his grandmother when she smacked his hand when he tried to touch the stove and he did. And when we told him not to touch the stove with our methods he never did it again.
And my mom did hit me again when I called her a bitch even harder, I just called her a stupid fucking bitch and broke a pic frame. I was 4 years old. My dad gave me a non-physical punishment and I never cus
tnpnc 1 year ago
@OZcheckm8 and thank you. I can be a bitch to ignorant people who loove to hurt kids and think they are soo superior to little children.
tnpnc 1 year ago
@tnpnc
Damn straight i want to be superior to a child. Thats your problem, you treat a 4 year old like an adult.
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Here's the irony in what you are doing. You just taught a 2y.o its OK to hurt his Grandma if she tries to diciplin him.
NOW, if your kid can assult his own family & get away with it, imagine what he'll be like in the real world when he's older - someone will eventually teach him, & it'll be worse then a smack on the bum, he'll be in jail, or bashed.
OZcheckm8 1 year ago
@OZcheckm8 rigght and its perfectly ok for grandma to hurt him?? hell no!! That's what im teaching my son! if someone hurts him he has a right to hurt them right back! Yes even if it is his own family. My husband and I are only teaching him it is ok to defend himself. We don't smack him, but we do TEACH him. And he does listen to us
tnpnc 1 year ago
You know I am not sure if either of you (tnpnc and OZcheckm8) are really grown up yet, as for one you are arguing over youtube and also you keep going on about your kids and how you tell them off but really why bother, neither of you will listen to each other cause you both think you are right.
fearlosswarrior 1 year ago
@OZcheckm8 others how u want to be treated
tnpnc 1 year ago
@OZcheckm8 stole again just to prove to her spanking wouldn't do shit for me. But then my dad punished me. He DID NOT HIT me at all! He made me go to the store and apologize and have the store owner explain what he could do to me if I was older and stole I'd get arrested. And then I had to go to bed for a week very early and no treats or tv or fun priveledges. I never stole again after that.
So I think non-physical punishments teach better. All physical punishments teach is to not do somethi
tnpnc 1 year ago
@tnpnc
Maybe it just comes down to the kid, it worked for me, BUT - its kind of counter productive to do what your mum did, she spanked you then said she loves you and gave you a hug.... thats sending you mixed messages, and it also gives you, the child, some hand.. meaning when you got smacked and she gave you a hug, thats when you thought it was your turn to give her the guilt trip, because your mum didn't carry out the punishment, she just hit you, then hugged you - pointless.
OZcheckm8 1 year ago
@OZcheckm8 No she did that to let me know she did love me but she had to punish me. She said she punished me the only way she thought was right at the time because it is how her parents raised her. My father chose to break the cycle of violence and that is the best way.
I would have given her the same thing even if she hadn't hugged me. I still would have called her a stupid bitch and told her I hated her. And to this day I've told her I don't forgive her fully. Because spanking is never rig
tnpnc 1 year ago
@OZcheckm8 OH and I'm not afraid of smackin my son's ass, I just don't want to cause causing him pain from me and his father won't get the results we want, only fear and less trustful of us so we use methods to teach him and still keep the bond
tnpnc 1 year ago
@OZcheckm8 I rebelled when I turned a teenager and I did graduate but I skipped school a lot. And so no spanking doesn't always produce GREAT law-abiding respectful citizens.
tnpnc 1 year ago
@tnpnc
Maybe you & your mum need to learn the difference between a smack, and assult.
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If my son decided he was gay I'd also stand by him, & he would obviously be old enough to reason with & not smack. Smacking is only useful for real young kids, and before you freak out, I'm talking about a smack that is so soft it would never leave a mark, its shock factor, & its worked for as long as humans have lived.
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Just because you are overly PC it doesn't rewrite basic nature
OZcheckm8 1 year ago
What utter garbage. I wonder how much money went into this propoganda reel?
My parents rarely smacked me, but when it happened in retrospect it made a better person.
This is head-up-arse liberalism at it's worst. Viva la Jeremy Bentham.
rac000n 1 year ago
This video is right on. God, the US is an embarrassment.
kaltaru 1 year ago
My parents smacked me when I was younger. I'm totally fine, I thought it was a just punishment because I was a right little brat.
BaCuurk 1 year ago
what's the name of the song??
vilma20vilma 1 year ago
@simotastic1 I hope your kids beat the shit out of you when they are older. I would if I were near you.
tnpnc 1 year ago
@simotastic1 I have a kid and never ever would cause him physically pain NO matter what he does! And spanking does hurt! Unless you very very lightly tap the child but then why even touch them in the first place? Just don't hit!
tnpnc 1 year ago
@schneke1 we are smarter and really love our kids
tnpnc 1 year ago
smacking didnt teach me anything when I was younger, I just turned around and did it again! All it taught me was my mother was mean for hurting me and when I got older I could hit back when I got hit. And I did hit her back when I was a teen.
tnpnc 1 year ago
spanking/smacking is NEVER a good discipline tool. Other methods DO work. Lazy parents smack. And when a kid runs into the road and you smack them and tell them they couldve gotten hurt thats hypocrisy. Cause you just hurt them!!! so they did get hurt anyway!! Morons
tnpnc 1 year ago
EUROPA, EUROPA, EUROPA, EUROPA e ancora EUROPA! :-)
espritdeparis1 1 year ago
If you have got children who won't listen to reason despite your best efforts to try and correct the situation by other methods, then when all else has failed a quick smack on the bot brings the bad behaviour to a swift conclusion and shows the kids "enough is enough". It is NOT despite what all of you say ABUSE AT ALL. If the child carries on despite the smack then you ground them for long periods,withdraw their priveleges like going out with friends.
AnthonyUK 1 year ago
I'm glad it isn't against the law in the UK.
AnthonyUK 1 year ago
I thought my step-father was joking with me. I said my head hurt, he said, "Well go away from the TV then" To scoot me off the couch (thought he was joking) I said, "no," playfully. He pulled my hair while I had a headache and pushed me to the floor and started yelling at me.
There's no need for such primitive behavior. It's just not ethical.
Dysfunctional126 1 year ago
im 16 and believe me theres nothing wrong with a smack. I got a smack when I did somthing wrong and it made me a better person cus i knew I would never do it again.
SnailyGaGa 2 years ago
That's a very naive view. Children are different in their personalities and that's independent from their parents' behaviour. Especially in families with many children, you'll always see a range of personalities which can be very diverse, even though the kids were brought up under identical conditions. So in order to to do your job as a parent properly, you have to adapt your method to the child. Whenever possible, smacking should be avoided, but there are cases when it's entirely appropriate.
shockingblue55 2 years ago
"We" is a figment of your imagination. No more.
And of course it's noboby's "fault" if a child is a nasty little brat. People are different, that's the way things are. Some are nice, some are not.
shockingblue55 2 years ago
Who is "we"? Some kids are easier to raise others are more difficult.. You have to adapt the method of teaching and disciplining to the personality of the child, obviously. It would be daft beating the shit out of a friendly, placid child as it would be to be really nice and gentle to a nasty little brat.
shockingblue55 2 years ago
smacking children is absolutely essential for enforcing boundaries and gives the child important lessons in consequences for wrongful behaviour, something that todays teenages lack due to not being smacked.
this has resulted in the " blameless society " where todays youth are incapable of accepting the consequences for there actions. physically disciplining a child for misconduct is a " natural " response that all animals exhibit towards there young to maintain social order.
imanglo 2 years ago
@speccwolf. well said, raise a finger against the idiots who have ruined society....smack your child !!
imanglo 2 years ago
we dont need to justify smacking our children. we just smack.
imanglo 2 years ago
yeah you moron
ArtfulDomino 2 years ago
i wish people would stop trying to justify hitting there children... idiots.
Polkastriipe 2 years ago
i agree
ArtfulDomino 2 years ago
A lot of people here aren't bothered about the long-term effects of hitting your child without rational explanation, they just want the right to beat their kids......completely selfish. No wonder ur kid's aren't listening to you....
supahdupahguy81 2 years ago
I got smacked as a kid and I can definitely say i'm a better person for it. I'm now a government interpreter working in the Spanish embassy with a beautiful wife and two kids who i love dearly. If my kids are bad I smack them, if they're good I show encouragement and love. Simple as that. But as always, each to their own I suppose.
toocaran 2 years ago
Then your stupid as sshit.
Lovingboyify 2 years ago
raise your hand against the idiots who are ruining society. smack your child.
imanglo 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
failure to smack a child in its early years is neglectful parenting full stop. when you see a child throwing a tantrum it is a clear sign that the parents have failed to smack there child in its early years so the child knows it can ignore there verbal commands. failure to smack is child abuse.
imanglo 2 years ago
i want to raise my kid with respect, not fear. I want to know that he knows what is right and what is wrong even when im not around. Temper tantrums? then go beat your kid cause he wetted his bed. Ever get really stressed out or angry? that's a adult temper tantrum. When i was little, i got smacked, hitted with belts, and back then i felt like shit. I was always confused, there was dad, and then there was like this monster. I had nightmares about it all the time, when i was little.
Lovingboyify 2 years ago
Beating your kid with a belt for wetting the bed is of course stupid and brutal because it's not done out of bad intent. It's an accident. And a belt or other instruments have nothing to do with smacking. Unfortunately, in this whole discussion, no distinction is made between the justified well-considered smack on the backside as a consequence of willful bad behaviour and the unjustified harsh corporal punishment which is not related to the kid's bad intent and which constitutes physical abuse.
shockingblue55 2 years ago
@imanglo your an moron ass hole
tnpnc 1 year ago
I'm delighted that good-hearted government bureaucrats will grant themselves jurisdiction to one day regulate ever last possible exchange of human interaction.
That day cannot arrive soon enough.
We don't deserve our liberty and need to be told what to think, say, and do.
Please save us from ourselves.
CRAPCANNONS 2 years ago
Google this.......
"Professor Murray Straus+smacking can lower IQ"
supahdupahguy81 2 years ago
the problem with this is that communities should decide not some giant EU or new world order
LLCoolPass 2 years ago 2
right... so if you found out your child had just been throwing rocks at cars, threw the cat in the pool, pulling siblings hair, drawing on the walls etc etc... you just caress them and say "no bubby, don't do that again"
BS smack them on the ass and say 'goto your room'
Political correctness is bullshit, smacking a child to teach them consequences is different from bashing your kids. wake up to yourselves and try butt out of other peoples lives ffs
lemmingGTP 2 years ago
firstly, that's a completely hypothetical situation, second of all, if a child is doing all that simultaneously then i would have 2 question it's upbringing.
why are some people unable to reason with their child, at any age? just smacking them & sending them 2 their room is lazy...
supahdupahguy81 2 years ago
question 4 all the child beaters (smackers) : at what age is the child deemed "too old" to be hit? 12? 13? when they're big enough 2 hit u back?
supahdupahguy81 2 years ago
So when does this leagal ban take effect?
HUSKY57887 2 years ago
how do we punish kids then ?
some people are pathetic...
LafeMan110 2 years ago
try talking to them... maybe you would learn something
Polkastriipe 2 years ago
Hahahaha, lmfao, oh sorry are you serious.
speccwolf 2 years ago
what u cant communicate to a toddler?
ArtfulDomino 2 years ago
Yes you can, but the child will run around you and be the authoritative figure, im sick of the selfish greedy demanding youth of today, sometimes sticking a child in the corner or taking away privileges doesn't work, because they know they are going to get them back. Big difference between discipline and abuse, figure it out , tap on the bum is fine.
speccwolf 2 years ago
your stupid if u cant punish a kid without hitting it.... use your brain dumbass
ArtfulDomino 2 years ago
Of course you can punish a kid without hitting it. There are lots of unpleasant things that a child would perceive as punishment. Whether that's more humane or effective is the other question.
shockingblue55 2 years ago
Thank you. The video cheered me up.
ochenta16 2 years ago
I going to go smack the living hell out of my kid cause this video pisses me off
b08dv89 2 years ago
If it is supposed to be a joke: It's not funny.
ShadyLady91 2 years ago
kids should be discipled i was smack as a kid and ill do it too mine you people should wake up and stop being so touchy touchy on the most stupidest things
raoulcastel 2 years ago
o_o
KKTplm 2 years ago
Did you give me ANY evidence??? You didn't give me one study or shit you just told me that some children need to be hit...you're so damn dumb. Now leave me the fuck alone. You are a bully if you hit smaller people , wanna hear it or not. There are millions of studies I could fucking show that prove how well behaved non-spanked children can be, how bare ass spankings can cause sexual fetishes...BUT WHY THE FUCK WASTE MY TIME??? Oh and by the way, I'm Jesus so you better believe what I say....LOL
ShadyLady91 2 years ago 2
Stop with your profession shit already. Nobody believes you. By the way she was spanked till she turned 10, not as a teen. But I'm done with this discussion, you don't want to see the facts anyways.
ShadyLady91 2 years ago
OMG JUST BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAVE THAT EFFECT ON THEM DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT DIDN'T HAVE THAT EFFECT ON OTHER PEOPLE!!! People react differently. The fact is that many people developed such kinks because of spanking. And what kind of parent would risk that? You are only looking down on that women because she says things that you don't like to hear...the truth...
ShadyLady91 2 years ago
I wish i could pimp smack you across the face.
b08dv89 2 years ago
Lol there are just two words I can think of right now: Anger management...
ShadyLady91 2 years ago
I ALREADY SAID IT LIKE A MILLION TIMES: GOOGLE "ANN'S LETTER TO PARENTS" That's your damn proof.
ShadyLady91 2 years ago
It's not about a quick spelling mistake, I don't make fun of people for such a crap. Happens to me too. But you mispelt that word more than once. That's why I don't believe you for shit.
ShadyLady91 2 years ago
I'm not saying that a light smack is BEATING. But it is HITTING. And honestly, that's not what I criticize so much.That's not what makes me so sick. I wouldn't do it to my children, but what I hate most is things like hitting with belts, over the knee or bare ass and stuff like that. IT IS STILL VERY COMMON IN THE USA!!! AND THAT'S CHILD ABUSE FOR SURE AND IT IS BEATING!!!
ShadyLady91 2 years ago
right you're a psychologist and don't even know how to write the word LOL good joke
ShadyLady91 2 years ago
That's just not true. There are always alternatives to hitting. If a child is so out of control that those alternatives don't work then it needs professional help.
ShadyLady91 2 years ago
lol those questions have NOTHING to do with the spanking argument. The only thing you need to know is that I was never spanked by my parents and I never was in trouble. I didn|t do drugs, I didn|t have any probs at school, my teachers loved me... and one of my friends, who was spanked, was already drunk at age 14 and did not get a job...And that|s why the arguments of the spankers just don|t make sense!!
ShadyLady91 2 years ago
you're the retard. Fuck YOU
ShadyLady91 2 years ago
anyone wanting to know the proper understanding of christian corporal punishment should watch the video on youtube called christian corporal punishment? and read all my comments and others under the video.
guidav123 2 years ago
I never said they are SATANIC. They are evil and sadistic people who need psychological help. They also need to get an education.I never said that these people worship Satan. I know that they can be Christians, Jews, Hindus, Muslims, etc...
intellectual1988 2 years ago
I never stated the religious views of individuals who hit children- they could be Jewish, Hindu, Christian, Muslim,etc...You obviously are not a psychologist, nor do you have a degree. Just so you know: Atheist-One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods.
I don't believe that a devil exists- there's no evidence for it.
intellectual1988 2 years ago
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intellectual1988 2 years ago
"war are not though by people smacking each other they are though will guns and weopons "- you are right. However, if we shun the notion of hittng people, wouldn't we shun the notion of killing them too. Also, I think that people should be in jail for making guns, but that's another issue I can discuss later.
intellectual1988 2 years ago
how do you pick your child up ?- I hug him, or carry him on my back.
any real mother reads that comment will think you dont have a child?- didn't I tell you already that I have a son?
BTW, I'm an atheist.
intellectual1988 2 years ago
physical discipline is not Abuse its correction if parents did not do this kids would be running around doing whatever they want and grow up to be spoiled brats im so glad that in my home in Central America parents still discipline there children like there suppose to instead of the child abuse BS that these guys are promoting
CAOrellana777 2 years ago
What "child abuse BS that these guys are promoting"?- what are you referring to? I'm not promoting child abuse, I'm condemning child abuse, while promoting children's rights. You're promoting child abuse and cruelty.
intellectual1988 2 years ago
You will never end the smacking or regimenting of children. There will ALWAYS be an underground of secret smackers. You can do nothing about it. It's hilarious to watch your futile efforts.If you imagine hard enough, you can hear the smacks, and even if you can't imagine it (which is probably the case since YOU have nothing resembling an imagination,) smacks revovle around the world with a deafening force.
conquerlord1 2 years ago
i turn the other cheek and gain the moral high ground
thewhippetlover 2 years ago 4
"Certain States have tried to distinguish between the correction of children and excessive violence. In reality the dividing line between the two is artificial...
so1001 2 years ago 3
It is very easy to pass from one stage to the other. It is also a question of principle. If it is not permissible to beat an adult, why should it be permissible to do so to a child? One of the contributions of the Convention is to call attention to the contradictions in our attitudes and cultures."
Concluding statement to Committee on the Rights of the Child General Discussion on Children's Rights in the Family, October 1994
so1001 2 years ago
Did they teach you to make these rude comments when you were studying to become a psychologist? I haven't insulted you personally.
intellectual1988 2 years ago
ok ive been reading your comments intellectual and you say "violence is violence" and you claim that parents should be arrested for hitting there children but think of this if parents just let there kids run around doing whatever they please disrespecting other people growing up rude and spoiled and then have them run into a school or something packing a nine and point blank people in the face and finally cap one in there own head? is that what you want mister human rights
CAOrellana777 2 years ago
"if parents just let there kids run around doing whatever they please"- big straw-man. I NEVER said anything like that. Please quote from any of my previous comments that say that children should be allowed to do whatever they like. I'm against VIOLENCE, and I'm equally against ANARCHY as well. There are 1000s of kids who get spanked and do the actions that you have just described.
intellectual1988 2 years ago
well that's what happens when there is no physical discipline they grow up to be spoiled law less brats who eventually turn into homicidal phsycopaths who put bullets in random people
CAOrellana777 2 years ago
Please quote from any of my previous comments that say that children should be allowed to do whatever they like.- You have yet to do so. "when there is no physical discipline they grow up to be spoiled law less brats who eventually turn into homicidal phsycopaths who put bullets in random people"- Not true, and there are many studies that show this. However, if you know of any studies that prove your point, then, please send me a message with a link to it. BTW, anecdotes don't count as studies.
intellectual1988 2 years ago
Until you provide me with a study that proves this claim, I will question it, since I've read studies that prove the opposite. Until you send me a message with a link to a study, I will stop responding to your comments.
intellectual1988 2 years ago
"run into a school or something packing a nine and point blank people in the face and finally cap one in there own head?"- no, being mr. (even though I'm a girl) human rights, I acknowledge the human rights of all the other students, teachers, and other staff members of schools, as well, which include the right to live.
I wish to live in a world w/ 0 crime and 0 violence and 0 cruelty to humans (and animals). The above mentioned is my dream, and I know that it's VERY different from reality.
intellectual1988 2 years ago
well the point is no discipline means kids will turn into homicidal maniacs.
CAOrellana777 2 years ago
Did you read my comment at all? Do you understand what it says? All I'm asking for is evidence of your claim. Please send me a message with a link to studies that prove "when there is no physical discipline they grow up to be spoiled law less brats who eventually turn into homicidal phsycopaths". You assert this without presenting an ounce of evidence. If you can provide evidence (published studies), then, I will have reason to believe your claim.
intellectual1988 2 years ago
You just can't find no arguments, can you?? Why don't you just shut up if you actually have nothing to say that makes sense??? I'm so sick of uneducated bullies like you...
ShadyLady91 2 years ago
bullies so if you just let the brat get away with everything without physical consequence they will consider you to be weak or to passive and will think they can get away with anything making them rebellious and often challenging the authority of there parents who have been raising them and providing food,clothing,housing to them as well as educating them sometimes discipline is necessary this is not about bullying
CAOrellana777 2 years ago
There are so many educated, polite children or adults who have never been spanked. Why do you not want to see the facts? By the way, it is statistically proven that the more educated people are, the less likely are they going to spank their kids. Coincidence? No, only dumb and uneducated pricks hit their children...
ShadyLady91 2 years ago
i like your comments. unfortunately, i believe that you are wasting your time on these uneducated spankers.
ShadyLady91 2 years ago
"when you craddle you child in your arms that if your hand touches there behind that they are then child sex abusers who worship the devil? "- Yes, but I can't state what the person's religion is- there are child abusers that follow several different religions.
intellectual1988 2 years ago
"small smack on the back of the leg or behind does nothing "- it doesn't hurt YOU, but it hurts the child physically and psychologically- that's the reason it should be banned.
intellectual1988 2 years ago
You insulted me for being on anti-depressants, as if that was something that I should be ashamed of, and I'm not. That would be like insulting somebody that is sick and goes to the doctor and takes medicine to treat whatever condition the person may have.
intellectual1988 2 years ago
If you were a REAL psychologist (which you claimed to be, but couldn't even spell the word), then you would know about the 100s of studies that show that hitting chidlren can cause psychological damage, the way that it did with you and me. "i have plenty of compastion"- you don't have to prove anything to me.
intellectual1988 2 years ago
Do you think I should have killed the baby (gotten an abortion) or had the child and abandoned him (giving him up for "adoption"- which in many cases no one will come and adopt the child)?
intellectual1988 2 years ago
That was a very rude comment.
intellectual1988 2 years ago
"if your on anti depresants and acted like that i wouldnt truat you to raise a child "
Would you prefer for me to actually have depression and not take medicine for it? If you are sick, then you have to go to the doctor and get medication or it- that's exactly what I did. You need help too, that's the reason why I recommended for you to see a therapist.
intellectual1988 2 years ago
Did you not read my post?? "My mistakes are also not my mother's fault either,just to clear that up." I KNOW that it's wrong to steal, and yes, I did it and it was WRONG. I'm not blaming my mother, she herself knows that MY mistakes are not HER fault. My argument was that hitting children doesn't PREVENT them from doing stupid things. Do you get it now? If not, then please read what I've written before.
intellectual1988 2 years ago
Who did I blame? When did I say that it's your fault or my mother's fault that I did what I did? You are in denial and it did do you harm, you are carrying the psychological scars from being hit, and I'm carrying them too, but I know that I have them and you don't know that you have them.
intellectual1988 2 years ago
I never said that you'll make the same mistakes I did and I hope you don't and I can't blame you for what I did wrong in the past.
intellectual1988 2 years ago
My mistakes are also not my mother's fault either,just to clear that up.Yes, I have certain problems,but I'm seeking help- the same thing that I recommend for you to do. You are in denial of your hatred of children, you even call me childish and mean it like an insult, as if being a child was a mortal sin. My point in my other post was that spanking didn't prevent me from doing stupid stuff.I learned right from wrong eventually,but not from my mother spanking me, a fact which she also recognizes
intellectual1988 2 years ago
you constantly call people retards that disagree with you. I never called you any names and I never used any profacnity in my posts, unlike many of yours.
intellectual1988 2 years ago
your language truly shows that spanking does not teach people to be polite or compassionate. You seem to hate children and the mentally disabled. I recommend you see a therapist to work those issues out.
intellectual1988 2 years ago
"Smacking never did me any harm."- not true. It DID harm you- it made you support violence against children and deprived you of compassion.
intellectual1988 2 years ago
Btw, I told you I accepted her apology...thus I'm not holding a grudge if tha's what you're thinking. My life is NOT perfect...I had a baby when I was too young, I did drugs back in high school, got arrested for stealing five times, and take anti-depressants every day. Spanking didn't prevent me from doing all those things when I was a teenager- in fact I did drugs to spite my mother for hitting me, the same with having sex w/ my ex-boyfriend. Please think about this
intellectual1988 2 years ago
"in my opinon i dont think that you have experienced life fully yet to be able to pass judgement on whatis right and wrong yet"- then who does?! Do you have to be 100 to know what's right and wrong? BTW what 's right and what's wrong don't change- only perceptions (public opinion) of right and wrong change.
intellectual1988 2 years ago
@intellectual1988 My mom also apologized to me for spanking me. She said she wished she could go back and raised me without it cause it hurt our relationship and made me worse. She is proud of me for not spanking my son. She said she only did it because that was how she was raised.
tnpnc 1 year ago
@tnpnc
As an adult do you now lay in bed crying over the time you got into trouble as a child and got a spanking hahaha.
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Smacking a kid has many benefits, psysical & psychologial. Parents who dont smack their kid often give their kid attitude problems because they feel like they are equal to an adult & can back chat. Karma comes into play, & these smart assed kids usually get bashed at school & they learn their life lessons from others. You are such a pussy parent - your kids will be gay
OZcheckm8 1 year ago
I didn't solicit the apology. My mother simply told me the other day- "I'm sorry I hit you when you were younger. I was foolish and ignorant. " There's nothing wrong w/ correcting inappropriate behavior, but correction does NOT equal hitting!! You are trying to do the strawman argument: that i think kids should be allowed to run wild... I dont and neither does any sane intelligent person. I'm saying that there are 100s of other ways to teach children right from wrong that don't involve violence.
intellectual1988 2 years ago
1-yes,i have a 2 year old son whom I've never hit. 2- i'm in college, majoring in biology, 3- I was hit, but i forgive my mother for putting me through that- but i still think it's wrong and she regrets it and has apologized to me 4- from Mexico, living in US 5- profession: student and part-time babystitter. I have one question for you: how are the questions about my personal life relevant to the discussion on spanking children?
intellectual1988 2 years ago
Here here. No to corporal punishment. Any one who disagrees can come and give me a slap.
thewhippetlover 2 years ago
Nothing (nobody and no animals either) deserves corporal punishment. You look @ the 60s w/ rose-colored glasses. They had the same problems back then- violent crime, teenage pregnancy, war, disrespectful/rude people..." Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"- Albert Einstein. You want to keep hitting children and expect progress that has not been made bit hitting children. You didn't respond to my other comment.
intellectual1988 2 years ago
I'm not against ALL punishment- I'm against CORPORAL punishment. What you tried to make is a straw-man arguement. If you "never do it again" in order to avoid a beating- that's not morality- that's just sucking up.
intellectual1988 2 years ago
finally you admit that spanking children is violence!!!- and violence simply begets violence just like sshapewa suggested.
intellectual1988 2 years ago
Luckily, I was not born with a mental disability, but I can see your contempt for people who were. I did say that people enjoy hitting children- that's true, but many will NOT admit it. Seeing that you call me names sure demonstrates that being hit taught you very good manners.
intellectual1988 2 years ago
if i was to spank her and always answer because i said so,im your elder,that will not stop her.FLESH DESIRES are very strong to overcome.without knowledge of this desires one can suffer from them.if u explain to the child the dangers of fullfilling these desires,he or she will change
sshapewa 2 years ago
i mean real prison arrest,juvenile-child prisons.parents are very illogical in disciplining children.for instance,you tell a kid,dont bring in girls in my house,the kid asks,why not?you answer coz i said so.the child will bring the girl even if u refused,bcoz they dont know the consequences of going against your command,like being falsely accused of rape,impregnating the girl,or get killed by the girl's father.u need to explain why and the kid would understand,not just spanking!!
sshapewa 2 years ago
parents usually smack children for stupid things like not picking up toys,they should not spank but arrest the kids,so that they can feel the consequences of breaking the law,spanking only creates people who only know violence as the only way to solve conflicts!!
sshapewa 2 years ago
fair enough...
marfiuss 2 years ago
my cousin used to be spanked as a child because he used to fail to obey orders from elders even if they were immoral?over the years till he grew up,he shared same beliefs that children(CITIZENS) should obey the government(PARENT/ELDER) no matter what.he was a soldier in zimbabwe,he was involved in the genocide gurukhandi,he obeyed mugabe no mater what,he never grew up to know what is right and wrong except that any governing authority is right no matter what,is this what u want for humanity!!
sshapewa 2 years ago 2
Thank you sshapewa- you made a very intelligent argument
intellectual1988 2 years ago
So suddenly a case of immoral parents wrongly punishing their child becomes the norm of the rest of society? Are you serious?
ilieklolcatz 2 years ago 3
It's easy to look back and say it was necessary for your discipline, but at the time, when you believe your parents are always protecting you, then? It's terrifying. I have the evidence scrawled in my diary in a younger hand.
What if the smack was on the face? And it left a bruise, or cut the lip? Why do we condone unseen domestic violence?
This is teaching to fear. It is an effective method, but like all forms of domestic violence, morally unsound.
so1001 2 years ago 4
thanks for helping me out man! that guy would never leave that case alone!
marineninga 2 years ago