I wouldn't compare it to walking in a forest, or being alone, or anything of the sort... Nor would I suggest "trying" to get into it. Having played music like this before, it's all about listening to the others and being on the same page musically and mentally. It's not something you compare to a forest or a walk because there's nothing to compare it to. It's just a connection between musicians in it's purest form; what free jazz is all about.
It's funny/not funny how most people don't get it. We need, absolutely NEED ritualized/neutralized violence, to break through to a more civilized world. Homo sapiens is a violent species. But with intelligence enough to create ritual spaces where violence can be expressed safely, and the full, mind-blowing paradoxes of living and dying can be explored and made into poetry. This is life. This is art.
I dont understand how you people can listen to this, i just got a link video from a friend, and i had to tell sun ra is diferent from other music instead of sun ra sucks really hard haha, can someone explain me why people sya is music from other planets? or things lika that?
Art is all about feelings, expretions, etc. If you can't find it in Sun Ra's music, then I strongly suggest you to buy a new Justin Byber's CD... Peace.
They are straight from the Exit Music Valley, man! I'm really speechless how to describe their music, cause I'm listening it for the first time and it's just mindblowing! They are so free to express every thought, movement, feeling they got threw their instruments... Damn, they are GREAT!
They are straight from the Exit Music Valley, man! I'm really speechless how to describe their music, cause I'm listening it for the first time and it's just mindblowing! They are so free to express every thought, movement, feeling they got threw their instruments... Damn, they're GREAT!
@mastalp01 Nobody would be able to explain it to you. You either get it or you don't. I would listen to this and motzart in the same day, and that would make sense. Sadly if you can't understand it, you can't understand it, it can't be explained to you I'm afraid.
@mastalp01 if you really are interested into getting it, just listen to it. It's all about listenning and if you don't understand in 10years, just listen to it again
@mastalp01 (don't listen to it as it were something "outside", let it sound in your head and consider it as sounds, which are part of yourself. Being might help you indeed :p)
@ume108 this is almost certainly the 80s. the clues are in their stage dress, Sun Ra's keyboard and John Gilmore's relative well-being (as his health deteriorated in the late 80s/early 90s).
It sounds like a herd of elephants stampeding over a hundred thousand kittens while the box handlers at UPS tumble thousands of boxes down an endless hill.
All of Sun Ra's greatest music is directed towards the stars, to be intercepted in 40 million years, or else to merge with the infinite. You can partake.
And how cool a juxtaposition is the shout at the end!
This music doesn't seem to need explanation to me. It is a hundred times more self-evident than practically any pop song i can think of. Anyone who has come into contact with infinity understands this music.
may be i'm wrong but i feel like the music has very much to do with the title of the song...may be his trying to express the shadow world of its title...dark,noise,screaming,raw...i mean he has other compositions Distant Stars or when there is no sun f.e. where the mood is very different more quiet,pensative...Sun Ra wants to give an emotion ,a feeling to the audience not just music...and thats good
So if you feel either of these at any point while experiencing these 10 minutes, then I suggest to you that 'good' music is being produced.
Not going to lie, this stuff is pretty f***** though.
To anyone wants to hear more of this kind of stuff: first, Congratulations! you are on the verge of insanity and second, check out some Albert Ayler and some Don Cherry.
Tension-tension-tension-tension-tension-tension....and no release from the tension until the piece is over (although that is certainly debatable). The purpose of this music is to make you squirm in your chair a bit and the reason we do is because we are not used to seeing such raw passion. My defense for this music virginia223 is: 'Good' music can draw from us the strongest emotions and thoughts-hatred and discomfort being two of them.
i dont know how you can say they arent playing together - the know whats going on up there - i think its the idea of hitting a nerve youre (the listener) not comfortable with - i think they are giving the idea of space - i mean everything is perfect - only those who need to be playing are playing. beautiful insane sanity.
Some may say I simply don't get it, and I'm willing accept this is possible. However, I thought this sounded like nobody was playing together at first, and it "evolved" into everybody just making noise with instruments. I'm not hating. It just utterly lacked many things I've come to expect from quality music. I'm interested to hear what some Sun Ra fans have to say.
this is a bridge that all true music lovers feel they must try to cross at times - pure passion without technical precision is? great prowess on an instrument without emotion is? quality music is? what i hear in something today i will not hear tomorrow - and that is wonderful. this performance is what it is, period. im not saying you have closed ears - im saying that im striving to keep mine as wide open as can be, day by day. i just will not worry about crossing that bridge.
Got to see La Sun Ra and meet him and John. Wow, what talented people. This is so impressive, I can't imagine anyone not digging this! Thanks for the post!
Those guys could play "Take the 'A' Train" one minute and then African drum chants the next and then just take off into totally free stuff. I saw them a few times in the '80s and was just amazed. Too bad this cuts off at the "rocket" chant...it was really fun. Could George Clinton have been influenced?
This was a live recording, which is a dichotomy. Fully half of a live musical experience is the energy created between musician and audience, musician and musician, instrument and air. We can't have that energy anymore this band only created it that night. The recording is like a photograph...looks like it but isn't it.
study sun ra. these guys had discipline and structure like you wouldn't beleive. there is a lot more to the arkestra than this song. personally this sounds more like freedom than war to me...but what do i know?
A bunch of you folks seem to be looking for a highly intellectual reading of Ra's work. Hope that doesn't get in the way of your actual enjoyment of it. The metaphor is the thing.
I am currently downloading a Sun Ra show -my first. Dated: JUNE 24, 1982. West Berlin. Hopefully it does not share the same date as this, and hopefully it sounds better.
i understand the controversy here--though the five star rating speaks for it's self. sun ra is not easy to grasp in a ten minute clip--- it would take at least a whole set-- sun ra was capable of playing the entire history of piano, the entire band has a grand aesthetic-musicological sweep...tenor saxophonist john gilmore blows hard post bop at the coltrane giant steps level and beyond...and yes their muse is of and not of this world: subspace, outerspace...innerspace...
I would like to add my own take on this. Sun Ra definitely has an artistic strategy with this song.
The music is in the piano, the rest is intended to be noise. It is up to the listener to pull the music of the piano from the chaos surrounding it.
He tends to be very space philosophy oriented, So this piece could be a statement on communications from other possible civilizations being lost in the scattering of radio waves from space.
That is exactly why I came to this. I've spent all day doing research on him........
Cut a long story short, there are some seriously good tracks by Drexciya missing from YT. A few of them I used to play out. Can you believe that 'Bubble Metropolis' is missing? I used to kick the shit out of that back when it came out. I tell ya, I used to get some looks when I played it, they'd never heard anything like it at the time.
Well this has to be one of the most awe inspiring pieces of music i think ive ever had the pleasure of listening to. from the out set i found myself entering a purely magical tour of sheer musical brilliance...in essence a truely life changing and riveting journey through music that all musicians of any real worth should aspire to..jimi hendrix?? a musician?? james brown?? what the hell did you contribute..take a leaf out of the Sun ra book of genius and maybe one day you will earn my respect.
You're a moron. In fact you're a primitive savage whos mind is not yet capable of grasping 'difficult' music.
Listen to and appreciate the piano sonatas of scriabin and other turn of the century russians, listen to john Coltrane as he goes experimental, Thelonious Monk, listen to world music including african drumming sessions, etc etc etc
Then come back to Sun Ra and see if you can still make these moronic comments.
I'll let my friend who posted in my name know that he's a 'moron'.
For the record, however, I do agree that this sounds quite ghastly. A bunch of drunken idiots bashing instruments would emulate it quite well. In fact, that's what I assumed it was before learning a little more about mr 'outer space' himself.
And I find it quite counter intuitive that I should appreciate past musicians to appreciate this. since when should one NEED to look into the history of music to judge on the sound?
I think I 'grasp' it just fine. They certainly do express themselves at least....
Unfortunately, I find that everything sounds like a horrible cacophony, and it is clearly deliberately so.
Just what is the guitarist trying to achieve by playing his guitar with a chair? If i was to post a video of me trying to construct a melody on a stringed instrument using household furnature, it would be seen as an utter farce, but because it's associated with 'Sun Ra' it is viewed as musical excellence.
Of course you have to look at the entire history of music to understand it. Do you think you could possibly understand the beatles if you had only listened to bach your entire life? of course not, you would think it sounds terrible.
The thing about life however, is that sometimes life is a 'horrible cacophony' as you put it. There is infinitely more truth in this music than anything you will ever hear on the radio. These are the sounds of war, starvation, aggression, and suffering.
I am extremely far from having looked at the entire history of music, yet have managed to like many genres for what they are, including the first music I ever listened to as a good example. Saying this music is simply beyond my understanding is just musical snobbery at its most pretentious.
and yet you are pretentious enough to tell me my tastes are inferior to yours. its not beyond your understanding, you're just way too stubborn to be open to the fact that this has artistic value. And no, you would never be able to make anything that sounds like this.
You're quite entitled to like the sound of something like this. I have not said that your tastes are inferior to mine. And I can see it having artistic value from the perepective of performance, energy and intense sound. Musically, however, I really can't see how these artists are caring what note they are playing. Is he really incorporating a structured passage of music into the song with that chair? I'm fairly sure if I got enough half decent musicians together I could make something similar.
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It's probably best to call it a day with this though. I honestly don't see anything other than an intense performance, however, devoid of any real musical structure. I can sort of understand why someone would like it, as it sounds 'wrong' and as a result, very dark which could appeal to the senses. I actually just 'played' my bass with a chair. It didn't sound very nice, but god dammit I'm trying here!
'More truth'? Get over yourself dude. The only reason it sounds like war, starvation, aggression and suffering is because those things are ghastly as is how this sounds. It is far easier to make something sound terrible than to sound nice (I've tried). I could quite easily 'play' a bass guitar with a chair.
that part where the double guitarist makes a face into the camera is stupid. i wish they wouldnt jump around and act all goofy, it can be distracting. Im all for different sounds and open listening but some of the shit seems like their doing it more for visual reasons as opposed to musical. Most of it is still sick though regardless.John Gilmore is the sick
a lot of sun ra's music and performance had a lot of humor in it. are you telling me you can look at all the outrageous getups with a completely straight face? stop taking everything so seriously.
it's not superficial. it helped a lot of the arkestra members step out of their "normal" lives and adapt into the sun ra philosophy and way of life, thus enhancing their performances.
rollo radford on bass... you can appreciate him too in another aspect of his music genius with the siegel-schwall band alongside with sam lay on drums... or on the super show with muddy waters... long live rollo
I'm in that weird part of youtube again
germzneverdie 1 month ago
Great! It's East Berlin though!
crownpropeller 1 month ago
3:36 Hooligan!
AnnoyingPassionFruit 2 months ago
3:17 here starts the best part
AnnoyingPassionFruit 2 months ago
Thumbs up if this is the most amazing video on YouTube.
mendali 2 months ago
i'm 16, i'm italian and i love sun ra and i have 100 complete sun ra's album!!!
SunRa95 2 months ago
sun ra è uno dei musicisti più importanti di sempre
SunRa95 2 months ago
sun ra è un genio punto e basta. chi lo offende,chi lo sfotte è uno stronzo.
SunRa95 2 months ago
woooooooooooooooooooooooooooow!
georgemarmolejo 2 months ago
おっぱい！おっぱい！
fdsaw 4 months ago
Some of the strangest and most wonderful music ever.
Darrylizer1 4 months ago 3
Thankyou so much for posting this. Sun Ra is my favorite musician/cult leader, ha, of all time. All aspects of Sun Ra are fascinating.
Darrylizer1 4 months ago
Thank you for posting this video. Hope we can all go to Saturn one day,
vacuumtube1954 4 months ago
what a bass line!
Owlute 4 months ago
music for the kids
ThaKunzlermichael 4 months ago
its the jet fuel.
ZoolulooZ 5 months ago
the evolution of pure emotional hard bop!
zencat999 6 months ago
such a JOYFUL noise
bobgreen623 7 months ago
I'll be humming that melody all day today.
lestoil 7 months ago 9
perfect
caxassax 7 months ago
more cowbell?
coosoorlog 7 months ago
BRILLIANT...
tonyfreejazz20 8 months ago
Classic Ra, thanks for posting
fastborzoi 8 months ago
damn i wish i could play overtones / altissimo with such endurance and expression so well on sax
Dilliboy63 8 months ago
i think he will be more famous right now
chelsua 9 months ago
so the second stop is jupiter?
chelsua 9 months ago
History needs this.
Amazing saxophone!
Really unique style and needs to be heard!
Very accessible to jazz beginners!
MrRGanja 9 months ago
I wouldn't compare it to walking in a forest, or being alone, or anything of the sort... Nor would I suggest "trying" to get into it. Having played music like this before, it's all about listening to the others and being on the same page musically and mentally. It's not something you compare to a forest or a walk because there's nothing to compare it to. It's just a connection between musicians in it's purest form; what free jazz is all about.
caesarcify 9 months ago
joy
barelymexican 10 months ago
you really dont see such masses of people convening for something that abstract anymore
niallkeville 10 months ago
you really donnt see such masses of people convening for something that abstract anymore
niallkeville 10 months ago
Real trance
Auntkekebaby 10 months ago
What a fucking toe tapper this thing is!
Rogerrumjet 10 months ago
It's funny/not funny how most people don't get it. We need, absolutely NEED ritualized/neutralized violence, to break through to a more civilized world. Homo sapiens is a violent species. But with intelligence enough to create ritual spaces where violence can be expressed safely, and the full, mind-blowing paradoxes of living and dying can be explored and made into poetry. This is life. This is art.
InevitableItWas 11 months ago 2
this is very, very cool.
ben123wright123 11 months ago
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irishlesbian 11 months ago
I dont understand how you people can listen to this, i just got a link video from a friend, and i had to tell sun ra is diferent from other music instead of sun ra sucks really hard haha, can someone explain me why people sya is music from other planets? or things lika that?
wtf is this??+
mastalp01 11 months ago
@mastalp01
Art is all about feelings, expretions, etc. If you can't find it in Sun Ra's music, then I strongly suggest you to buy a new Justin Byber's CD... Peace.
irishlesbian 11 months ago
@irishlesbian no lol, sun ra is 10x better and more interesting than bieber lol.... but seriously maybe with some drugs i would enjoy this music haha
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They are straight from the Exit Music Valley, man! I'm really speechless how to describe their music, cause I'm listening it for the first time and it's just mindblowing! They are so free to express every thought, movement, feeling they got threw their instruments... Damn, they are GREAT!
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@mastalp01
They are straight from the Exit Music Valley, man! I'm really speechless how to describe their music, cause I'm listening it for the first time and it's just mindblowing! They are so free to express every thought, movement, feeling they got threw their instruments... Damn, they're GREAT!
irishlesbian 11 months ago
@mastalp01 in time...you will Hear...MUHAUHAUHAUAHUA
MokshaIS 11 months ago
@mastalp01 Nobody would be able to explain it to you. You either get it or you don't. I would listen to this and motzart in the same day, and that would make sense. Sadly if you can't understand it, you can't understand it, it can't be explained to you I'm afraid.
fuckemandtheirlaw 9 months ago 2
@fuckemandtheirlaw pls try to explain how you enjoy this? what do you feel? do you use any drugs? or just say whatever!! omfg
maybe i was doing music and i didnt notice it :O i try to play the guitar at school and it sounds like this vid..
mastalp01 9 months ago
@mastalp01 I wouldn't worry about it, you don't get it, you don't get it, listen to something that you like and be happy.
fuckemandtheirlaw 9 months ago
@fuckemandtheirlaw ffs i just want to know what you feel and think the moment you listen this shit
mastalp01 9 months ago
@mastalp01 I enjoy it. Its that simple.
fuckemandtheirlaw 9 months ago
@mastalp01 if you really are interested into getting it, just listen to it. It's all about listenning and if you don't understand in 10years, just listen to it again
trojanlol 9 months ago
@mastalp01 close you eyes. Imagine a forest and you walking completely alone.
mugenslayer 9 months ago
@mastalp01 (don't listen to it as it were something "outside", let it sound in your head and consider it as sounds, which are part of yourself. Being might help you indeed :p)
trojanlol 9 months ago
inFUCKINsane - love it!
sex6cult9revolution 1 year ago
organized confusion
Ra
manofhue 1 year ago
@manofhue Yes, yes
Auntkekebaby 10 months ago
immeasurable equations - rhythmic vibrations
i believe the back drop locates this at JazzBuhne Berlin DDR . . . that would be East Berlin - from the 80s? or before?
ume108 1 year ago
@ume108 this is almost certainly the 80s. the clues are in their stage dress, Sun Ra's keyboard and John Gilmore's relative well-being (as his health deteriorated in the late 80s/early 90s).
miggon 1 year ago
you dont need to be stoned to get to space
dantefede 1 year ago 3
dude they are stoned to hell in this video
3333kdawg 1 year ago
peace to all lifeforms
peanutpeanut123 1 year ago 7
destruction is creation. this is art and this IS from another fckng planet
peanutpeanut123 1 year ago
"Philadelphia is death's headquarters."
Sun Ra- 1970
rayjr62 1 year ago
kurt cobain
MattyStevensonBishop 1 year ago
Nice job, keep it up. New music from Brandon Jarod coming soon, great sounds!
11181001 1 year ago
Much praise to the Sun Ra Arkestra.....
a perfect manifestation of art imitating life on earth.
logansGT 1 year ago
they must have spent hours rehearsing
pgille2 1 year ago 2
And then there was Sun Ra! The Cosmic being with ancient cosmogony and celestial sounds that influenced multitudes.
MultiVictorious1 1 year ago
...and now we know, Flavour Flav started his career in the Arkestra!
rikstar23 1 year ago 3
First time i heard/watched this i laughed deep tearful healing laughter, beautiful chaos!
rikstar23 1 year ago
This concert took place in East Berlin,Jazz-Buehne 1986, Friedrichstadt-Palast. Not West-Berlin. I was there. It was GREAT...
They played in West-Berlin also at the time. But the footage shown is taped behind the WALL and it was a very special treat for us...
TheSturmundDrang 1 year ago 3
More Rocket Number Nine.
BennyGaberMusic 1 year ago
en que año fue este festival
getsemani27 1 year ago
Just amazing. Thank you so much for posting.
MarkHuddle 1 year ago
The punk rock of jazz
eatsandsleeps 1 year ago
@eatsandsleeps well said!
econoroller 1 year ago
Bravi!
artistsassist 1 year ago
LOL I think my mind almost exploded.... they really feel the energy and ride the waveform
decmasta 1 year ago
as far as musically i only really liked 7:59 till the end, but the rest was so epic
seerskater 1 year ago
Seriously funny. Five stars.
ottlakerambler 1 year ago
Fuck Shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
kekeri 1 year ago
There's ONLY one Sun Ra !!! With Marshall Allen (now 84-85 yrs old) on alto sax, John Gilmore on tenor sax, and Pat Patrick, on baritone sax .
techxdabruiser 1 year ago
I would put on one of those costumes to play that music any day.
benmillerintx 1 year ago
It sounds like a herd of elephants stampeding over a hundred thousand kittens while the box handlers at UPS tumble thousands of boxes down an endless hill.
hippietim 1 year ago 17
@hippietim LOL!!!!!
Auntkekebaby 10 months ago
@hippietim
That is the most accurate thing I have ever read.
marinturk 3 months ago
Holy S@#$! is right.
benmillerintx 1 year ago
holy shit
alejandrosoul 1 year ago
I love how the drummer uses his cymbal stand as a drumstick! XD
PsytranceMan777 1 year ago 5
All of Sun Ra's greatest music is directed towards the stars, to be intercepted in 40 million years, or else to merge with the infinite. You can partake.
And how cool a juxtaposition is the shout at the end!
ExMachine 1 year ago 13
I will add:
you can hear energy structures travelling towards a destination. It is music with a -direction-. And it pours forth.
Think of sperm towards egg, dieing.
ExMachine 1 year ago
I will add:
you can hear energy structures travelling towards a destination. It is music with a -direction-. And it pours forth.
Think of sperm towards egg, dieing.
ExMachine 1 year ago
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I will add:
you can hear energy structures travelling towards a destination. It is music with a -direction-. And it pours forth.
ExMachine 1 year ago
I will add:
you can hear energy structures travelling towards a destination. It is music with a -direction-. And it pours forth.
ExMachine 1 year ago
This music doesn't seem to need explanation to me. It is a hundred times more self-evident than practically any pop song i can think of. Anyone who has come into contact with infinity understands this music.
ExMachine 1 year ago
may be i'm wrong but i feel like the music has very much to do with the title of the song...may be his trying to express the shadow world of its title...dark,noise,screaming,raw...i mean he has other compositions Distant Stars or when there is no sun f.e. where the mood is very different more quiet,pensative...Sun Ra wants to give an emotion ,a feeling to the audience not just music...and thats good
pablomourelle 1 year ago
is that Pharaoh Sanders?
louderthanlife2 1 year ago
i feel like those musicians right now! :DDDDD
blablablablaaaful 1 year ago
So if you feel either of these at any point while experiencing these 10 minutes, then I suggest to you that 'good' music is being produced.
Not going to lie, this stuff is pretty f***** though.
To anyone wants to hear more of this kind of stuff: first, Congratulations! you are on the verge of insanity and second, check out some Albert Ayler and some Don Cherry.
PaulTraps 1 year ago
Tension-tension-tension-tension-tension-tension....and no release from the tension until the piece is over (although that is certainly debatable). The purpose of this music is to make you squirm in your chair a bit and the reason we do is because we are not used to seeing such raw passion. My defense for this music virginia223 is: 'Good' music can draw from us the strongest emotions and thoughts-hatred and discomfort being two of them.
PaulTraps 1 year ago
i dont know how you can say they arent playing together - the know whats going on up there - i think its the idea of hitting a nerve youre (the listener) not comfortable with - i think they are giving the idea of space - i mean everything is perfect - only those who need to be playing are playing. beautiful insane sanity.
tonykapel 1 year ago
Some may say I simply don't get it, and I'm willing accept this is possible. However, I thought this sounded like nobody was playing together at first, and it "evolved" into everybody just making noise with instruments. I'm not hating. It just utterly lacked many things I've come to expect from quality music. I'm interested to hear what some Sun Ra fans have to say.
virginiac223 1 year ago
this is a bridge that all true music lovers feel they must try to cross at times - pure passion without technical precision is? great prowess on an instrument without emotion is? quality music is? what i hear in something today i will not hear tomorrow - and that is wonderful. this performance is what it is, period. im not saying you have closed ears - im saying that im striving to keep mine as wide open as can be, day by day. i just will not worry about crossing that bridge.
fiddlerfart 1 year ago 3
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raceout0 2 years ago
first time i see a "jazz" drummer demolish his kit on stage ;)
familytreemusic 2 years ago 5
wow :D
VIttoVendetta 2 years ago
This is the stuff i get up in the morining for!!!!
vandoren59 2 years ago 2
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I don't care if anyone else thumbs me down.
This is shit.
Landmarkmoon 2 years ago
@Landmarkmoon The Shit.
urboyfriend 2 years ago 2
How so, Landmarkmoon?
PsytranceMan777 2 years ago
Got to see La Sun Ra and meet him and John. Wow, what talented people. This is so impressive, I can't imagine anyone not digging this! Thanks for the post!
chuckdee121 2 years ago
this....is....FUCKING INSANE!! I LOVE IT!!
Spankandyank 2 years ago 2
I think im having an orgasm!!!!!!
Vanjanman59 2 years ago
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vandoren59 2 years ago 2
wow!
anyone know who's the drummer?
pospaghemme 2 years ago
I'm only 17, most kids my age would hate this.....My Mind was just blown, this is amazing.....
superdude593 2 years ago 3
me too! I showed it to my friends and now they all think im insane. goodtimes.
ESpeigel 2 years ago 2
you're so unique!
ohhi20 2 years ago
I'm speechless, Sun Ra is my hero.
Rockfidente 2 years ago 24
I feel that way myself sometimes! :)
Bluesjanet 2 years ago
unbelivable good!
reykjavikc 2 years ago 2
totally exciting
PflegerFlav 2 years ago
Those guys could play "Take the 'A' Train" one minute and then African drum chants the next and then just take off into totally free stuff. I saw them a few times in the '80s and was just amazed. Too bad this cuts off at the "rocket" chant...it was really fun. Could George Clinton have been influenced?
billahml 2 years ago 3
Clinton cites Sun Ra as one of his influences. Explicitly.
proctor940 2 years ago 17
Thanks for the update. Makes perfect sense.
billahml 2 years ago
@proctor940
At least he admits the obvious. I love Clinton too. What other influences does he acknowledge?
SubRosaStructure 1 year ago
Sun Ra jazz- Extraterrestre
losmonjas 2 years ago 2
This was a live recording, which is a dichotomy. Fully half of a live musical experience is the energy created between musician and audience, musician and musician, instrument and air. We can't have that energy anymore this band only created it that night. The recording is like a photograph...looks like it but isn't it.
JazzmanJibilla 2 years ago
BUGUKU SMITH IS THE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!
fleetwoodbrawm 2 years ago
8:50 - highest note ive ever heard on an instrument. lol.
Nuxunumo 2 years ago 4
This is probably my favorite Sun Ra clip on YouTube. Is that Marvin Bugalu Smith on drums?
pjustusxi 2 years ago
That is indeed Marvin Bugalu Smith.
upphetsade 2 years ago
study sun ra. these guys had discipline and structure like you wouldn't beleive. there is a lot more to the arkestra than this song. personally this sounds more like freedom than war to me...but what do i know?
bunny21x 2 years ago
ahh no estos qls estan kgaos!!!! hahahahhahahahhahahahhaha
Mitokekeri 2 years ago
He's from Saturn
Informant9 2 years ago
A bunch of you folks seem to be looking for a highly intellectual reading of Ra's work. Hope that doesn't get in the way of your actual enjoyment of it. The metaphor is the thing.
HeroDedalus 2 years ago 3
Damn right my friend. You just have to feel it, dig it, love it - maybe not for everyone, but better to open your ears to it than over-analyse it
bobgreen623 2 years ago
I am currently downloading a Sun Ra show -my first. Dated: JUNE 24, 1982. West Berlin. Hopefully it does not share the same date as this, and hopefully it sounds better.
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SteadyHaze 2 years ago
i understand the controversy here--though the five star rating speaks for it's self. sun ra is not easy to grasp in a ten minute clip--- it would take at least a whole set-- sun ra was capable of playing the entire history of piano, the entire band has a grand aesthetic-musicological sweep...tenor saxophonist john gilmore blows hard post bop at the coltrane giant steps level and beyond...and yes their muse is of and not of this world: subspace, outerspace...innerspace...
sumnercarter 2 years ago 3
We're on the next flight.
FLOORDROPPA 2 years ago 2
I would like to add my own take on this. Sun Ra definitely has an artistic strategy with this song.
The music is in the piano, the rest is intended to be noise. It is up to the listener to pull the music of the piano from the chaos surrounding it.
He tends to be very space philosophy oriented, So this piece could be a statement on communications from other possible civilizations being lost in the scattering of radio waves from space.
Chainedflesh 2 years ago 6
Utter utter TOSH!!
silverdale247 2 years ago
I take it you dont like this then, its not my cup of tea, Ra was a big influence on Stinson if i recall rightly, he even named a song after him.
Hexogenik 2 years ago
Funny you should mention JS.
That is exactly why I came to this. I've spent all day doing research on him........
Cut a long story short, there are some seriously good tracks by Drexciya missing from YT. A few of them I used to play out. Can you believe that 'Bubble Metropolis' is missing? I used to kick the shit out of that back when it came out. I tell ya, I used to get some looks when I played it, they'd never heard anything like it at the time.
Guess what I'm posting tomorrow?
Got it in one!
silverdale247 2 years ago
Anybody knows where I can find more parts of this concert on youtube?
toztizok 2 years ago
Well this has to be one of the most awe inspiring pieces of music i think ive ever had the pleasure of listening to. from the out set i found myself entering a purely magical tour of sheer musical brilliance...in essence a truely life changing and riveting journey through music that all musicians of any real worth should aspire to..jimi hendrix?? a musician?? james brown?? what the hell did you contribute..take a leaf out of the Sun ra book of genius and maybe one day you will earn my respect.
zippy2320 2 years ago
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this is truly, one of THE worst things, i have EVER heard in my entire life.
It is terrible. they should be ashamed. and so should you for liking this complete pile of utter WANK.
TearTheRoofOff 2 years ago
You're a moron. In fact you're a primitive savage whos mind is not yet capable of grasping 'difficult' music.
Listen to and appreciate the piano sonatas of scriabin and other turn of the century russians, listen to john Coltrane as he goes experimental, Thelonious Monk, listen to world music including african drumming sessions, etc etc etc
Then come back to Sun Ra and see if you can still make these moronic comments.
ExMachine 2 years ago
I'll let my friend who posted in my name know that he's a 'moron'.
For the record, however, I do agree that this sounds quite ghastly. A bunch of drunken idiots bashing instruments would emulate it quite well. In fact, that's what I assumed it was before learning a little more about mr 'outer space' himself.
And I find it quite counter intuitive that I should appreciate past musicians to appreciate this. since when should one NEED to look into the history of music to judge on the sound?
TearTheRoofOff 2 years ago
I think I 'grasp' it just fine. They certainly do express themselves at least....
Unfortunately, I find that everything sounds like a horrible cacophony, and it is clearly deliberately so.
Just what is the guitarist trying to achieve by playing his guitar with a chair? If i was to post a video of me trying to construct a melody on a stringed instrument using household furnature, it would be seen as an utter farce, but because it's associated with 'Sun Ra' it is viewed as musical excellence.
TearTheRoofOff 2 years ago
Of course you have to look at the entire history of music to understand it. Do you think you could possibly understand the beatles if you had only listened to bach your entire life? of course not, you would think it sounds terrible.
The thing about life however, is that sometimes life is a 'horrible cacophony' as you put it. There is infinitely more truth in this music than anything you will ever hear on the radio. These are the sounds of war, starvation, aggression, and suffering.
treefingers68 2 years ago
I am extremely far from having looked at the entire history of music, yet have managed to like many genres for what they are, including the first music I ever listened to as a good example. Saying this music is simply beyond my understanding is just musical snobbery at its most pretentious.
TearTheRoofOff 2 years ago
and yet you are pretentious enough to tell me my tastes are inferior to yours. its not beyond your understanding, you're just way too stubborn to be open to the fact that this has artistic value. And no, you would never be able to make anything that sounds like this.
treefingers68 2 years ago 4
You're quite entitled to like the sound of something like this. I have not said that your tastes are inferior to mine. And I can see it having artistic value from the perepective of performance, energy and intense sound. Musically, however, I really can't see how these artists are caring what note they are playing. Is he really incorporating a structured passage of music into the song with that chair? I'm fairly sure if I got enough half decent musicians together I could make something similar.
TearTheRoofOff 2 years ago
Sorry mate but I would say they are caring about what notes they are playing. The theory in this music is phenomenal.
oOJimmySueOo 2 years ago
With a chair? Really?
TearTheRoofOff 2 years ago
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It's probably best to call it a day with this though. I honestly don't see anything other than an intense performance, however, devoid of any real musical structure. I can sort of understand why someone would like it, as it sounds 'wrong' and as a result, very dark which could appeal to the senses. I actually just 'played' my bass with a chair. It didn't sound very nice, but god dammit I'm trying here!
TearTheRoofOff 2 years ago
'More truth'? Get over yourself dude. The only reason it sounds like war, starvation, aggression and suffering is because those things are ghastly as is how this sounds. It is far easier to make something sound terrible than to sound nice (I've tried). I could quite easily 'play' a bass guitar with a chair.
Only I wouldn't.
Becuase it would sound rubbish.
TearTheRoofOff 2 years ago
@TearTheRoofOff ur comment is very LOL , i hope u will understand the meanin g some day some how
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pjustusxi 2 years ago
Completely accidentally i clicked this video one star-damn! I give it five times five stars!
ExMachine 2 years ago
Its good to see the band playing to such a large receptive audience-
Sun Ra must certainly be one of the greatest and most original band leaders of the 20th century
As for the performance... just listen!
ExMachine 2 years ago 3
they are FUCKING SHIT.
TearTheRoofOff 2 years ago
that part where the double guitarist makes a face into the camera is stupid. i wish they wouldnt jump around and act all goofy, it can be distracting. Im all for different sounds and open listening but some of the shit seems like their doing it more for visual reasons as opposed to musical. Most of it is still sick though regardless.John Gilmore is the sick
edcerc 2 years ago
a lot of sun ra's music and performance had a lot of humor in it. are you telling me you can look at all the outrageous getups with a completely straight face? stop taking everything so seriously.
ohitsmagical 2 years ago 2
i just dont care for superficial aspects of music
edcerc 2 years ago
it's not superficial. it helped a lot of the arkestra members step out of their "normal" lives and adapt into the sun ra philosophy and way of life, thus enhancing their performances.
ohitsmagical 2 years ago 2
they talked about getting in space but they're already. Fascinating Sun Ra. RIP
trojanlol 2 years ago
HEAVY 5***** ;)
supervision2 3 years ago
Marshall Allen on alto, who's still with us.
Thank goodness for this documentation of a remarkable man and his very unique band.
JazzVideoGuy 3 years ago
rollo radford on bass... you can appreciate him too in another aspect of his music genius with the siegel-schwall band alongside with sam lay on drums... or on the super show with muddy waters... long live rollo
gillesaniorte 3 years ago
These guys really channelled something. Beautiful.
kpg51876 3 years ago
best ever...
fekete2008 3 years ago
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What album is this on?
JasonLorelei 3 years ago
Amazing!
quieky 3 years ago
sometimes the arkestra is a little to theatrical for my tastes, but you got to admit they sound great
edcerc 3 years ago
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if this is music, then poker is a sport...
jwtevor 3 years ago
Sun Ra said that those who like what he had to say can listen and those who don't, don't have to. You should take his advice.
LP1378 3 years ago
He also said he was from Saturn...go figure
jwtevor 3 years ago
me thinks you have a brain the size of a peanut....
dronken 3 years ago