Hollow Ground Knife making by Jim Moyer

[rc75mhz]

Great display of American craftsmanship.

[BlueDemonGTR]

now that's a piece of art..

[jmoyerknives]

thank you

[tekxpres]

@jmoyerknives

I tried to visit your site but it said your domain name had expired. Are you going to get it back up? I'd love to see more examples of your work.

Thanks!

[thatperson12349]

That is a thing of beauty my good sir

[jmoyerknives]

Thanks vassal1

Best regards,

Jim

[vassal11]

JIm Moyer is my idol!!!!

[jmoyerknives]

Thanks partner.

[blacksmither1]

awesome work,video,and i love brooks and dunn

[Dragonstud]

nice work

[61giles]

nice do you think you make more videos on knife makeing(like all types of knifes an handles?) good jod on this one:)

[jmoyerknives]

@61giles not at this time, however I am considering a short video on how to make a folder without using a pattern knife.

[61giles]

@jmoyerknives o ya that would be asome

[johninloveindaytona]

What griit is that on the belt in the video?

[jmoyerknives]

@johninloveindaytona I generally start with a 60 grit and work up to 120 grit before heat treat.

[wilson77337]

how much does a knife like that cost?

[jmoyerknives]

@wilson77337 

[jmoyerknives]

@wilson77337 they start at 150 and up.

[qldtas]

great vid great song very inspirational hello from tasmania

[jmoyerknives]

@qldtas Hello back from Idaho, home of potato's and the BSU Broncos

[jmoyerknives]

Thank you

[nodnarbian]

clean looking knife

[frankgon4]

Great Video.  Love the music.

[jmoyerknives]

@frankgon4 Thanksa

[Trollskyy]

nice grinding skills Sir. i hope one day i will have same skills. If You want see my knifeworks please visit my Youtube profile.

[jmoyerknives]

@Trollskyy  I took time too visit and like what you are doing Tony.

[jmoyerknives]

@Trollskyy  Happy you enjoyed

[MrThahey]

those are good knives. some of the few stock removal blades that I'v seen with a distal taper. Are the knives differentially tempered?

[jmoyerknives]

@MrThahey Not all of them are differentially tempered. It depends on the steel I use. 52100 and 5160 always ATS-34 no. 01 also no..

[PRSpl4yer]

What kind of belts do you like to use? I'm just getting into knife making, maybe about 6 months but I recently bought a new grinder (Beaumont KMG, it rocks) I'm just unfamiliar with the options for abrasive belts. I do a lot of Titanium grinding, but do a fair amount of steel as well.

[jmoyerknives]

@PRSpl4yer I think if you contact trugritcom and ask them what is best for your needs. They work with knifemakers to match the belts you need for your task.. Thumbs up on the KMG...............

[PRSpl4yer]

@jmoyerknives Thanks a bunch, I'll make sure I give them a ring.  I appreciate you taking the time to give me a push in the right direction :)

[GuyTatt]

hi man, love your work. btw, who sing that back ground song ?

[jmoyerknives]

@GuyTatt thanks, the music is my maria by brooks and dunn

[GuyTatt]

@jmoyerknives thank a lot m8 :)

[GeneralG1810]

Excuse my ignorance but what do you mean by hollow ground

[jmoyerknives]

@GeneralG1810 A convex grind,

[jmoyerknives]

@poopoobutt41 Thank you

[talon115]

Awesome!

[jmoyerknives]

@talon115 thanks

[jmoyerknives]

Hope this inspires you. jim

[gerysc]

Trully Inspired!

[soixe1997]

glove are good, i always burn my fingers when im making knives

[cj112674]

great work absoutely beautiful! I like the forge..lol..rosebud Im guessing. do you use a forge or just torches?

[jmoyerknives]

@cj112674 I use a forge for my hot work and making Damascus. I was using the torch in this video to edge quench this blade.

[harrison0873]

nice work! and nice to see there arent alot of assholes commenting about kitchen knives here like on other videos haha. ps nice music :)

[jmoyerknives]

@harrison0873 I love Brooks and Dunn music.

[EarlRausch]

Not bad for an ole Idaho Spud !

Great website to !

[jmoyerknives]

@EarlRausch

T\hanks earl Lot of energy in an old or young Idaho Spud Thanks again

[Veggieforce]

beautiful blades Jim. true American craftsmanship.

[usframe]

beautiful

[niksechtniks]

Thats nice! nice knives realy good job!

[yoo815]

what i do is i use a industreal round saw blade the make a tracing of the knife cut it out with a jig saw then heat and quench

[bobthedistroyer]

@yoo815 hey i have been thinking of doing this does this work well

[TheCelticknights]

great knifes!!! watch out with them loose gloves on the belt sander!!!

[jmoyerknives]

@TheCelticknights Thanks for your comments and your safety tip

[TheWoollyMammoth]

Very Cool

[Hollrobb]

Great looking knifes. Thanks for sharing this video. On the farm here we have an old black smith forge and when i was 12 or so i would take old style door hinge pins and heat them on the forge(coal) and flatten them on an anvil and make knifes out of them. the old style door pins i used had the fancy head on them so they made geat looking "daggers". I ran across one in a drawer yesterday ,thats the reason i was looking at this video, thanks again,Rob

[bornfromground]

what kinda steel do you prefer for oil hardening

[jmoyerknives]

@bornfromground 01 5160 52100

[sergeantsailorman]

To: ironmonger1969, I'm not that experienced myself. I certainly don't do the quality work that Mr. Moyer does, but after I finish on the wheel, I finish the knife on the platen with a 1/4 inch thick piece of cork glued to it, which is under the sandpaper belt. It adds a cushion to press the knife against, and keeps it from being damaged by the belt joint area. I don't know if doing that would help you with your problem or not. Hope you figure it out.

[ironmonger1969]

No matter what wheel i use i seem to always achieve getting this VERY AGRAVATING line or ripple in the blade. I use for belts in this order, 60g. 150g. 320g.and finish with a 400g. can you PLEASE help me ! Any info would be greatly appreciated!!! Bob

[jmoyerknives]

It sounds to me that you are taking the blade to the wheel at a small angle since the wheels are (I assume) 2 inches wide with groves on both sides the same.. If so that is a habit that is difficult to break. I have always used the hard wheels and have never tried the serrated. The belts you are using will do the job. I go up to the 800 cork belts.

[ironmonger1969]

Ok i tried the 4" contact wheel with no serations and got decent results but the grind was a bit tricky cause i have used a wheel like that, i kept getting seperate groove lines but eventually worked them all into the same grind, Ive also never used a smooth wheel and it most definataly is a differant grind than im used to. it seems that i serrated wheel cuts much faster and that could be my problem since i am a beginner.

[jmoyerknives]

Sounds like you are on the right track now. Just keep practicing.

[ironmonger1969]

I have a 6" and two 8" wheels one of the 8" is a hogging wheel, The wheels are all serated. The line or ripple that im getting is always 2inches from the racasso area. I never see it until i polish the blade.

[ironmonger1969]

Mr. Moyer. I have a question and was hoping you could help me . I have been knife making now for about 6 months, spent right at 10,000 dollars on eqipment. I am very impressed with my hollow grinds exept for one thing. I always get 1 ripple on my blade on both sides of the blade at the same spot.

[bstjames1611]

nice work...what size wheel do you use for your hollow grind?

[jmoyerknives]

An 8" and a 10 inch wheel. Mostly the 10" wheel. Which ever one you use you will want the thickness of the belts to be the same.

[bstjames1611]

cool thanks...the 10 inch is what ive heard before i just wasnt sure. is the 8 inch just for smaller blades? so you get a shorter grind? and one last thing what kind of machine is that a grizzly?

[jmoyerknives]

The machine is a Burr King. I have 4 wheels for grinding 4,6,8,and 10 inch. Each leaves a different concave look such as a small dagger I may use a 6" and use a 10" for a folder blade. No set guidlines.

[bstjames1611]

thanks man i really appreciate it. im always looking around for knife makers around me but its hard finding any in a little town outside montreal lol

[dudrhkd7]

the knife looks very good

thanks for the video

[circutwolf]

wonder what it would cost to learn this from a master such as yourself

[jmoyerknives]

There are many knifemaker organizations. You can learn a bunch from them. Just google knifemakers in your area and give them a call. They will be happy to help u get started.

[richardferran]

can someone please tell me where to get a belt sander like that for a good price i have one but it is very limited to what i can do

[jmoyerknives]

This is a burr king grinder. Just google and be prepared to spend 3000.00 with all the attachments.

[sithmagician]

very nice work. thanks for the video!

[jmoyerknives]

You are welcome

[amac09100]

its grate to see someone who still knows how to make a functional work of art. ur knives are beautiful

[jmoyerknives]

What can I say but Thank You.

[justmarinus]

it's called hollow ground because the weel grinds a hollow gring in the first bevel

[ArthurReynolds1]

I'm a huge fan of your work; your knives are nothing short of art. I live in Kentucky, but I'm planning on coming out to see you this July.  I'd love it if you would post some more videos, maybe fitting the handles?

It's always a pleasure watching a craftsman at work,

Arthur

[jmoyerknives]

Arthur, thanks for your comments. I will try to get sometning done for handles for the hidden tang knife. Look forward to your visit.

Jim

[fst3v0]

why is it called "hollow" ground...

[jmoyerknives]

Good question. I don't know as it is concave.

[thefreedomwarrior]

Nice job

[deanunit]

do you make tactical knives

[jmoyerknives]

Only if I can work directly with a customer as they have stricter paramiters to work with.

[spindlegrinder]

Very nice knives

[jmoyerknives]

Thanx

[slab698]

nothing short of beatiful work.

[jmoyerknives]

Thank you.

[dakotain91]

Great looking knife sir. I envy your skills. :o)

[jmoyerknives]

Thanks.

[custom24prs]

What sort of belt grinder is that? It looks expensive.

[jmoyerknives]

This is a Burr King grinder and they can run over three grand with the base price of around 1,800

[custom24prs]

Yikes, okay thank you. I am going to get a $230 Kalamazoo 1x42" to start with, and upgrade to a heavy duty one later on. Thanks.

[kcstoneguy]

aweseome. what a great video!

[jmoyerknives]

Thanks, I give the credit to my grandson for this video.

[jaidRomanek]

So amazing. I would love to get into knife making. But have no idea how or where to start. Have any tips?

[Shutterguy]

Hey I live in Jackson Hole. Where in Idaho are you? Would like to visit your shop =)

[jmoyerknives]

I am in Idaho City, 49 miles northeast of Boise. If the sign says closed just knock as we are here just about 24/7

[ClayPigeonKilla]

beautiful work sir nice video also..

[jmoyerknives]

thank you

[BlackBird10111]

what hardness does it get?

[jmoyerknives]

I try for a 59 - 60 hardness.

[MADROCKS212]

beautiful work. id like one of those but its a long way to go.

[heiheit]

Very beautiful knives... I wish i had a nice sander like that!

[deckflip]

im only 13, but thats an awesome knife

[jmoyerknives]

Glad you lie it son.

[1984nelly]

Awsome work man! im stuck using a 6 in. grinder and i cant quite get the grind im looking for ...i like the deep hollow grind and with a 6 in. grinder its very hard to do...any idea what i can do?

[jmoyerknives]

Thanks partner.

[xsplosive1975]

all I can say is nice very nice work

[jmoyerknives]

I also do folders, and trying to get a tutorial going.

[moleman1961]

I take my hat off to you Sir! Lovely workmanship.Thanks for sharing.

[jmoyerknives]

If you could give me the specks I may already have it in my inventory.

What handle material, full tang,  type steel, type sheath are all variabales so very difficult to give you a quote Louie.

[LouieG7777]

Man you make some beautiful knives! How much would uh say a 10 inch one cost me if I were to give you some specs?

[jmoyerknives]

I have a store that we sell my knives from. I sell maybey two or three knives on the net each year.

You are entering a tuff field to make a living. This is a "ME TO" business. Everyone says if he can do it than "ME TO"

Best of luck

[1789000]

i'm actually thinking of making knives for a living, starting out though i have no idea how to sell them - do you have stores carry your knives? or sell them online?

[jmoyerknives]

14 day turnaround is pretty standard for me.

[reallifeistoflat]

is 14 days pretty standard for a knife? i'm interested into getting into knife makin but i've yet to go at it 8 hours a day and i'm wondering what i could look at for a turn around per blade

[jmoyerknives]

You are more than welcome.

[bowmasterpigo13]

nice knief i havnt seen one like that before than ks for posting

[jmoyerknives]

Yes I do depending on material etc. Yep Idaho is a candy store for artists and craftsmen alike.

[jedirifleman]

nice video and nice state too....do you make knives to order as in size-shape-materials-etc.??

[jmoyerknives]

The view is difficult to see - the blade is lower than the crotch. But thanks for the tips.

[flupelo]

At 1:01 Safety Problem: If (and when) the belt catches the blade it will fly directly toward your crotch area. Reposition the grind angle or your body.

[sykop8ntballer]

If I could do what you do for a living, I'd be a happy camper.

[jmoyerknives]

I like the 60 grit for profile then 240 for quench. Also I still use the A/O belts. Just do not like the ceramics.

[ssunfish]

At least with not using the ceramics you are not opening yourself to silicosis. You must have your reasons. I hope I can visit you this summer--Joe

[nunnajm]

What grit belt are you using to hollow grind that blade?

[jmoyerknives]

I agree, too many want to go CNC these days.

[jvanis65]

Great video!! We need more true craftsmen like that.

[jmoyerknives]

Thanks partner, I also love the Brooks and Dunn DVD

[ArcherBowArrows]

hello awsome job ur amazing, good sound track love that song.

[jmoyerknives]

Thanks my friend.

[kimboz9]

amazing knives respect man

[jmoyerknives]

You just cannot beat the burr king Joe. Thanks for the interest.

[ssunfish]

This is my favorite Video on YouTube! I would love to come to Idaho City and meet you after your excellent video. I live in Jerome and my name is Joe. I like your Burr King! The Bowie knife you put ih the holder looked flat grond..I like that shape and the other knives I saw at the end were really neat..the one with wood and antler, WOW! Thanks for posting!

[sc00ny]

Hi Jim, just Installed my grinder.

Having fun with the hollow grind :-)

Nice to have this machine at last. Hope all is well & you're still enjoying what you do.

Hope to see another video of you're work sometime.

Best wishes

[jmoyerknives]

Thats good news. You will get many miles out of this machine.

Take care.

[bigbluemsp]

Jim Ive seen some of your knives up close and they are truly works of art.

Keep up the beautiful work my friend.

[jmoyerknives]

Thanks a bunch, I have no inclination to hang it up soon.

[emolinare]

I agree, very nice job. Thanks for this video tutorial. Do you also specialize in folding knives? I'd be really interested to see the whole process.

[jmoyerknives]

Actually that grind was to add more distal taper to the blade before the hollow grind was started. Then working from the plunge towards the tip.

[widgeonslayer]

Was that a partial flat grind you did before the hollow grind? I am just started to play with hollow grinding right now. Any advice?

[jmoyerknives]

60 grit is used to profile then step down with 120 -220-400- belts - then hand sand 600-800-1200 down to 2000 for a mirror finish.

[kartkid455]

what grit sanding belt did you use to grind the stock?

[fastcamo]

Jim, Hello from Utah, I love your work!

[jmoyerknives]

Hello Utha, thank you

[flamefinger1989]

sir you are amazing stunning knives

[jmoyerknives]

than you.

[chisme0]

nice fron the spain thanks

[jmoyerknives]

hello from Idaho and thanks.

[Skumboy1]

Quality craftsmanship. Thanks for sharing!

[jmoyerknives]

Happy to share with you

[jmoyerknives]

Thanks, A good grinder does make a diff.

[sc00ny]

Hi again Jim, I just bought a Herbst grinder after hovering between a Kalamazoo & a Coote. It'll be a few weeks to get it up & running but Hopefully it'll produce a good finish. After seeing this I had to get it! Hope to see more of your vids soon!

[sc00ny]

You have a steady hand & stout skill. As well as a great grinder! A pleasure to watch you work.

[jmoyerknives]

No I don't mind at all.

Old age  (68) and blood clots.

[username2274317]

if you don't mind me asking

what happened to your leg

[kamcio21]

great man, great knifes, and great vid.You are amazing.

good luck!!

[spiderprime84]

very soon build my belt sander to build knives..I still have much to learn..Enter more videos are very beautiful..night man

[jmoyerknives]

Thanks man. The song is Maria by Brooks and Dunn

[jmoyerknives]

Correctio the song is my maria

[spiderprime84]

i'm italian VERY VERY GOOD PERSON GOOD SOUND, and nice life...look up and gooo to the infinityyyyyyyyyyy...bye man...whot is the name song? thks

[kangurski]

Wish I could see more on this video. Excellent results from a worthy tradesman and artist

[revhard05]

the old man is becoming one of the lost artist, that are being repaced my pakistanis and machines. I bet you could learn alot from him from what i saw on the video i learned some.

[Tinyshmo]

Nice editng on the video, oh wait it was me.

Its shea

Check out some of my videos!

Or check out site at prolodesigns . com

[jmoyerknives]

Thanks for taking the time to stop by Chris.

[chrisw40]

Very cool beautiful knives

[chiefblackhawk]

It was a pleasure meeting you last weekend. Thanks for taking the time to talk to me about your knives and to tell me about your art.

[jmoyerknives]

Thank you. Stop by any time. Jim

[airsoft4evr]

that is awstom ill come cheak out ur shop win i head backup to idaho city (i live in boise)

[jmoyerknives]

Thanks for your nice comments. Most appreciated.

[urbanpsychoanalyst]

NICE KNIVES I LOVE CRAFTSMAN SHIP

[jmoyerknives]

Thanks for the stars, elk and deer are very popular handle materials and readily available here in the Northwest.

[iacomastro]

Thanks a lot from a never starting - would-be - few spare time - knifemaker from Rome.

Your choice for an elk bone handle was great.

I gave you two stars coz of a mistake... I intended five, of course.

[BLuser01]

Very inspiring great job

[jmoyerknives]

Thank you!! It has been a lifetime of fun.

[franckdanielknives]

congratulation for the nice work very good video

best regards 5 stars

[jmoyerknives]

Thanks for the 5 stars sir. Your home page is very impressive.