Kettle steam comparison with Andrea Rossi's Energy Catalyzer (E-Cat)

[baddoggie101]

I totally fail to understand what point you are attempting to make. Are you trying to show how the steam output from the end of the hose would appear. If so I saw nothing as the lighting was very bad? Once again what is the point you are making?

[flierbynight]

Very useful video. I've forgotten a lot of this subject but I think the temperature rise of 75 degrees Celsius is a lot less significant than the production of steam since 75 calories are needed to raise 1 ml of water 75 degrees while 540 calories are needed for the phase change from water into steam of 1ml. That's 14% in comparison. ... As I recall from my physics class of over 50 years ago!

PS I don't believe in cold fusion.

[ughkane614h]

I want this video on my 5230 unit.

[ouishansen923l]

This video went viral on San Salvador

[repaunreal]

epic fail, this setup does not equal/simulates what happens with the e-cat.

Go and solicetate att mythbusters

[Cornubot]

Also, the E-Cat electric water boiler in the Krivit video is insulated, while you have substantial energy loss from the kettles above.

[Fiberton]

Its about temp not steam. You tube scientists LOL FAIL.

[dm5rkt]

In fact, with a cold water flow rate of 7kg/s as employed by the E-Cat in Steven Krivit's video, around 600 W is required just to heat up the incoming water to boiling point. So in this video, to simulate the steam output with a constant volume of water, the power to the kettle in case (b) should be just 200 W! I used 900 W, so this is a big over representation!

[pweet07]

@dm5rkt Thanks for posting this. I couldn't help noticing the slow velocity of the output steam in Krivit's video and was very doubtful that we were looking at nearly 5Kilowatts output. I put it down to the fact that sometimes videos don't show speed very well, but it did look very minimal. My guess was somewhere around the 700 watts input. I cranked up my 1.6Kw electric kettle and and blew a bit of steam with that. It appeared to be at least double that shown in Krivit's video.

[dm5rkt]

@pweet07 Another interpretation could be that for whatever reason, the e-cat in Krivit's video was not working properly. If the e-cat does actually work then this would be a great way of diverting attention so that Rossi can get on with things in peace and quiet. The Wright Brothers used a similar ploy by refusing on one occasion to demonstrate the flyer to the media. The press then lost interest, which allowed the brothers to keep their competitors in the dark.

[tron81]

@dm5rkt that interpretation doesn't fly because Rossi claimed the E-Cat was working correctly and did heat output calculations based on the demonstration.

[pacus123]

Interesting. The 900w steam output pressure/quantity appears (just my personal opinion here) to be little less than what was shown in Krivit's video. By no means is the output pressure/quantity as strong as your 4.4kw test.

However, correct me if I'm wrong here, isn't your experiment boiling a volume of water? In Rossi's demo was he not feeding fresh water into his reactor? Does this make a difference?

[dm5rkt]

@pacus123 Yes quite right. The amount of steam shown here is over-representative because cold water is not being introduced into the kettle at a constant rate. For that, a pump is required so there is still some work to be done!

[pacus123]

@dm5rkt Thanks. Please post a video when you get around to doing this. We are very intrigued by what is going on.

[mimarob]

Wonderful, now I don't have to do this, guess you hotwired the switches so they would not turn off when boiling starts?

[dm5rkt]

@mimarob The switches were glued to the "on" position, yes. You might also want to watch TinselKoala's "Ekitty" series of videos.