I converted from apathist (thought the god thing was all irrelevant really) to atheist or anti-creationist when I read Dawkins' rearguard action and I looked the the US. It scared me so much. I have slight interest in understanding how people could believe all the religion stuff. A PCS video makes me think they are ALL nuts which I know is wrong, but he makes it so easy to dismiss creationist claims as loony when you hear such utter nonsense.
Im an athiest, yet I agree, PCS should just (If he has too at all) put out a CD of his holy book, let people listen and decide for themselves, Personally, I think there quite possably was a man called Jesus (or simmilar) who was a jewish phillosopher of the time, but not devine or the son of any god, and his core message of peace and fellowship is important to look at, no matter your religious leanings.
ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)
SCIENCE SHOWS THAT THE UNIVERSE could not have sustained itself eternally because of entropy (even in an open system). Einstein confirmed that space, matter, and time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)
EINSTEIN CONFIRMED that space and time are just as physical as matter. That's why space and time can be altered by gravity, and space produces particles. Einstein's equations show that the universe couldn’t be eternal. It had a beginning. Einstein believed, because of science, in the existence of God behind the origin and order of the universe. He didn't believe in a personal God like Christians do, but he did believe science pointed to the existence of an all powerful and intelligent Creator
THE SCIENTIFIC CASE AGAINST ATHEISM: Please read this Internet article of mine published in Russia's English Pravda. It will be a real eye-opener for all who think belief in a Creator is merely subjective blind faith. Also read my article, LIFE ON MARS NO SURPRISE (In the Earth's past there was powerful volcanic activity which spewed life-containing dirt and rocks (meteors) into outer space. Mars may literally have millions of tons of Earth soil)
NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How did species survive if their vital structures, organs, reproductive system were still evolving? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic and biological similarities between species.
DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news on fossils, genetics, astronomy, etc. that you won't read in the main stream media. Visit the Institute for Creation Research site.
EXPLAINING HOW AN AIRPLANE WORKS doesn't mean no one made the airplane. Explaining how life and the universe work don’t mean there was no Maker behind them. Natural laws explain how the order in the universe works, but mere undirected natural laws can't explain the origin of that order. Once you have a complete and living cell, the genetic code/mechanisms exist to direct the formation of more cells, but how did the cell originate when no directing code or mechanisms existed in nature?
WHAT IS SCIENCE? Science is knowledge based on observation. No one observed the universe coming by chance or by design, by creation or by macro-evolution. These are positions of faith. The issue is which faith science supports. Natural laws explain how an airplane or a cell works, but undirected natural laws cannot bring about either. Once there's a complete cell, the code/mechanisms exist to direct the formation of more cells, but how did the cell originate when there was no directing code.
SCIENTISTS HAVE NEVER CREATED LIFE. And, even if they do it won't be by chance but by intelligent design. By genetically engineering already existing forms of life, scientists have produced new forms of life, but they did not produce these new life forms from non-living matter. Even in synthetic life, scientists design and build DNA from scratch, through intelligent design, and then insert their man-made DNA into an already living cell. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
THE ODDS of the sequence of molecules in a cell coming together by chance are similar to the odds of magnetic letters randomly bonding together in a sequence to form all the words and sentences in a dictionary. Without the right sequence, a cell's molecules won't work. Amino acids can come by chance but not proteins. Without DNA there can be no proteins and vice versa. Gradually won't do. It's all at once or not at all for a cell's survival. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
NATURAL SELECTION DOESN'T PRODUCE ANYTHING. It can only "select" from what is produced that has survival value. If a variation occurs that helps a species survive, that survival is called being "selected." That's all it is. There's no conscious selection by nature. It's a passive process. Natural selection is a figure of speech. The term itself is a tautology. Natural selection only operates once there is life and reproduction, not before. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM.
NATURAL SELECTION IS NO BLIND WATCHMAKER because it can only "select," not produce or arrange. If a variation survives, that's called being "selected." Natural selection operates only once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't have been involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it alive! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
ARE FOSSILS REALLY MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD? Popular Internet article examines assumptions concerning fossil deposition as well as built-in assumptions involved in modern radiometric dating (not used for dating fossils but other rocks), and arguments from starlight and time. Discusses lack of true transitional forms in the fossil record and lack of "age" sequence of the fossil layers. Discussion of mixed species (i.e. dinosaur, reptile, mammal fossils in the same stratum).
IMAGINE A FISH WITH PART FINS, part feet with the fins evolving (transitioning) into feet. What survival benefit would there be? The fish couldn't use its fins or its feet, and there are no fossils showing such a creature ever existed. They only exist on automobile bumper stickers! There are no true transitional forms, either living or fossilized. Evolutionists realize this fact! Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
APES ARE QUITE COMFORTABLE IN HOW THEY WALK, just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone, for either, would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from ape-like creatures anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from four-legged-pawed dog-like creatures. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE.
GENETIC INFORMATION CANNOT HAPPEN BY CHANCE, so it's more logical to believe that genetic similarities between all forms of life are due to a common Designer who designed similar functions for similar purposes. It doesn't mean all forms of life are biologically related! Also, "Junk DNA" isn't junk. These non-coding segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression. Read my popular Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST prevents macro-evolution. Natural selection wouldn't preserve the evolution of new traits because they wouldn't have any survival value. A partially-evolved hand evolving from a previous trait, partially-evolved tissues, organs, biological structures would make a species unfit for survival. There are no fossils of partially-evolved species. All species of plants and animals in the fossil record are complete and fully-formed. They came into existence as complete!
NEW SPECIES: Although new species have come into existence, they don't carry any new genes. They've become new species only because they can't be crossed back with the original parent stock for various biological reasons. A biological "kind" allows for new species but not new genes. Nature has no ability to invent new genes for new traits. Only limited variations and adaptations are possible in nature, and all strictly within a biological "kind" (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.).
ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) in nature is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
"JUNK DNA" ISN'T JUNK: Recent research shows that these segments of DNA are vital in regulating gene expression (when, where, and how genes are expressed). There's no room for random mutations to operate safely. Random mutations, from radiation, are destructive. Even for every good one there would be hundreds of harmful ones with the net effect, over time, causing harm and even extinction, not upward evolution. Genetic similarities are better explained due to a common design for common purposes.
DO EYES CARRY SCARS OF EVOLUTION? Read this fantastic Internet article by biologist and creationist Brian Thomas. Thomas refutes every argument of a "flawed" design for the eye, and explains how and why the so-called flaw is actually the best thing for the eye. Read the article! It's amazing what facts evolutionists will ignore. Numerous times evolutionists have been proven wrong about their interpretation of a structure as being flawed or useless
HOW DOES DNA MAKE A BODY? When you divide a cake the parts are smaller than the original cake and the cake never gets bigger. When we were a cell and that cell divided, the new cells were the same size as the original cell and we got bigger. New material had to come from somewhere. That new material came from food. The sequence in our DNA directed our mother's food we received in the womb to become new cells forming all the tissues and organs of our body. Read my article: HOW DID MY DNA MAKE ME?
HUMAN EMBRYO doesn't have true gills or tail. These and other arguments have long been discarded by most evolutionists and not supported by any modern embryologist. Then, what are these structures? Read "Does The Human Embryo Go Through Animal Stages" at the Institute for Creation Research site. Briefly, what look like gills are early formation of facial and throat regions. What looks like a tail is the coccyx which grows faster than the rest of the body. The coccyx supports the pelvic muscles.
DISORDER IN THE UNIVERSE is no argument against God's existence. The disorder is because of chance and entropy, but the order can only be rationally explained due to design. If I discovered a broken watch on the ground, the disorder is no evidence that there wasn't a designer behind the watch. Please read my Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
BURDEN OF PROOF: Anyone who claims the level of complexity and order in life and the universe happened by chance has the burden of proof. Many atheists think they have no burden of proof because they’re not claiming the existence of something. That is not true. Atheists are claiming something. They are claiming that we are here by chance and atheists expect for everyone to accept that claim on faith because they certainly can’t prove it. Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
very good point made, try to tell us about parts of reality (god) yet reject other realities that are undeniable (evolution), then why should we even bother taking anything you say seriously?
No the Big bang helps disprove Christianity The phenomenal event of virtual Particles is something coming from nothing Its nearly 0.1 out of 100 trillion chance to create a life Even lower for a Godly life But 1 out of 200 For mass energy and 1 out of 1 million for a Prime Simple single Cell creation. This is all learned from my advanced classes.
yea but his arguments are good and he shold be distributing cds its all in an opinon so that argument cold be fliped wright around back to you btw wen all thous countless times wen he was disproven thanks for giving a example =D
Sorry but I am not going to encourage some delusional boy to put the bible on cds. I know this christian thinks he is doing a good thing but not having some creationist drivel out there but really he is not. This boy needs help.
Also would not time, money and resources be better spent by christians on helping people like food, housing? No I do not hate the bible but I hate preaching and think if you honestly care for people the best think is to give them help they really need.
I haven't seen people mention that VFX has made videos that should hoax fossils of 50 foot men, hoax photos of 50 foot mummies, and hoax demo skulls. He claimed these were true. You can find the mirrors on a channel called either MartyrForChrist, MartyrofChrist. One such video was up as of last week.
Venomfag is a moron. He didn't say anything about evolution. all he said was that if there is a god he's an ass hole killer no what I'm sayin. I wish you would die.
You know I tend not to post my religion, It is mine as an individual. There are so many denominations and variances... I love to debate athiests and theists alike. It is the struggle of man to determine his own role. If by nature or god's will we have free choice. I love science and I love faith. I am grateful for this video and hope people will see it as a chance to question there beliefs. Not so as to doubt themselves but as a chance to grow. I am rating this video five stars. Well done. TTFN!
I appreciate this video. As an atheist, the one thing that bugs me the MOST about evangelicals is their INSANE and POINTLESS fight with evolution. I fail to understand why a LITERAL reading of genesis is necessary to christianity.
When they waste everyone's time fighting evolution they are only promoting ignorance.
@GetMeThere1--Who said it was to be taken literally? There was no apple that was eaten. The serpent was not a snake, at least at the point of his seduction of Eve. Who told you that christians take the creation story of Genesis literally? Regardless of how long it took for things to be as they are, it takes an impressive amount of denial and refusal to even WANT to know what's really going on to be able to see the magnificence of creation and not know that it was intelligent design.
@tardwhisperer "Who said it was to be taken literally?" Um, those many people who say so, that's who. And others don't--as you succeed in pointing out the obvious.
And that's the PROBLEM: the bible MEANS NOTHING, because the MEANING MUST BE INSERTED BY THE READER--therefore, it's arbitrary, and based on personal fantasy--not reality.
@GetMeThere1--There is absolutely no way that you could come to that conclusion except through deliberate denial. It means everything because it states the obvious. There is white and there is black. There is good and there is evil and we see this evidence through the actions of human beings on a daily basis. And now you will ask me who's to say which is which. The wicked are good debaters, but wrong nonetheless.
Cambrian explosion happen over the span of 70 MILLION years. The word "explosion" only suggests the rapid acceleration of diversificaion in fauna and flora IN COMPARISON to the long history of Earth (approx. 4.6 billion years) and life on Earth (approx. 2.0 billion years).
70 million years is only a "flash of an eye" within 20 billion years, hence the word "explosion". Is it really so hard to conceptualize this?
one thing i would like to say, ive rated commented and subscribed now, but i do have a problem with christ simply because he introduces the idea of hell, which, correct me if im wrong, is absent in the old testament. God killed plent of people in the old testament, but left them alone one they were dead, but it was jesus that brings the idea that souls are tortured for all eternity, and for that reason i do have a problem with christ
I love how VenomFangX has his comments for his videos set to approval only. He is pathetic, he doesn't want anybody questioning his views or giving other opinions. I figure "god" would want freedom to express, but apparently not. FUCK Venomfangx. All his videos comment sections are filled with "Praise the Lord" Bullshit. Makes me fucking sick.
Damn, where such Christians are hiding? I've heard of leprechauns, but lol you're even more rare, haha. I didn't even know FFreethinker you were one. Damn.
that is true. I used to be catholic myself (I'm now a nonbeliever) and there is no way a logical person could think that catholics are not christians.
If you believe in Jesus you then have to believe the Hebrews were the chosen people, if you believe that, then you have to believe in Adam / Eve (factually), if you believe that then you would have to believe God had relieved God-self to 1% of the world's population and ignored the rest.
Every human culture has a representation for the divine, unknown, etc. If you wish to explain the spread of Christianity you might explain why the world uses the Gregorian calendar.
Those who 5 star this video are falling into a trap that Sam Harris talks about a lot. Moderate Christians give the more radical people a cloak of normalcy to hide behind. Supporting the distribution of any religious message just lends authenticity to kent Hovinds' of the world. If Christianity were not so big, would ANYONE listen to Hovind? As an atheist I don't want to see anyone evangelizing the bible or any religion.
Take your head out of Sam Harris's ass for a few minutes and see the objective of what is being done in this video instead of WHO is doing it. I mean, are you suggesting that all charities with a large religious base close up shop just because they are linked to religion despite the good they are doing? If so, I don't think you'd find many people to support you in that arena. In fact, you'd probably come across as an intolerant bigot atheist stereotype.
What charity? VFX deadbeat fund? What kind of objective is spreading lies from a convicted fraud? With the circumstances and past situations, it damn well does matter who is doing it. Don't you think it's a little ironic that VFX is asking for money right after he talks about not being able to hold onto a job? Considering the huge house he lives in, the big tvs, the video game systems he has, it is just redundant to hear him beg for money.
Yes, I do think they should be closed, despite any good they are doing. There are many, many non religious charities which do wonderful things all over the world without spreading poison and lies. Religious theocracies are trying to kill free speech through the UN, establish Sharia law in the west and the Catholic church is the largest real estate holder in the US and doesn't pay 1 red cent of taxes while helping to spread aids in Africa which a real charity will have to clean up!
Free Speech is the key word here! As a fellow atheist, I would like to see religion's mouth shut too, but I want to live in a world where everyone has the right to speak their mind and if you want religion to shut up then it's only fair to ask us to shut up too! Do you want to live in a world of censorship?
I ignore VFX because he is an unrealistic, biased, closed-minded, brainwashed Christian. Not all Christians are, but he is. Plus he ignores all people that refute him. He is a coward with no common sense. He admits that his religion is so overwhelming that he can't properly function in society, which is why he can't hold a job. He can't stop spewing his garbage about the bible at everyone whether it's appropriate or not, even when they tell him they don't want to hear it.
Beautifully put man. Our Creator is beyond our comprehension.Sadly people like VFX are too afraid to actually have faith in that and have a complusive need to prove nothing but a distorted opinion of their little ego-maniacal selves.
Sooo... let me get this straight. It's not in your "fellow Christian" character to actively evangelize yourself, but you wish to advise FangX on how to evangelize?
Actually i do have a problem with Jesus. Although he is seen as a figure of good, some of his actions make him an evil maniac. Spreading fear among people and asking people to do bad things by our standards today.
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The question of evolution to me seems to be one of the very least important things to consider as a Christian. Christianity is about christ - not refuting science.
fictional i said. please read the full comment before getting so pushy. he's in the same category to me as Dr. Seuss characters, Santa Clause and Disney. same team my friend, no need to bite my head off.
I'm an atheist and whilst I don't support every aspect of what you say I support your intent and as such am happy to rate your video as 5 stars (if I can figure out how). Keep 'em coming bro!
While I'm happy that trying to get VFX to shut up is a good thing, I have to disagree that evolution is just a belief for atheists. How many more times do we have to say that evolution is a theory which has stood firm for 150 years, and has been re-inforced by branches of science which were unknown in Darwins time? We believe that evolution is true because of the facts, but don't believe it in the sense of a faith, which is based on no evidence whatsoever.
You know, what you said about atheists view of reality is the exact same as those of us who believe in the spiritual from the other side of the table.
well of course, it's just not believing in a supreme intelligent being that created and governs everything. It's not even necessarily saying there is none, mostly just that there is no evidence and thus no pressing need to believe.
You can believe in it all you want...but don't expect to be able to reasonably defend it to people who want evidence. And definitely do NOT try to enforce your spiritual beliefs on everyone. that includes your morals if you cannot give a good practical reason why such a thing is a moral issue.
As long as you shut up about it I don't think anyone would really care...but stuff like Christianity due to the tenants CANT be silent. They have to 'save' everyone.
i meant Jesus as a fictional historical figure. i do not know who his mentors were. i was raised on Aesop's Fables and those stories are a lot nicer then the old testament and the koran. nevertheless, all of the Jesus stories are nice as well, except for the David Blain stuff.
That's just the thing - Jesus really *isn't* much of a historical figure. Apart from the Bible, there is no record of anything whatsoever that he said.
What I was really trying to say is that the mythology of Jesus is just a conglomeration of things that came before.
Does eternal hellfire for nonbelievers fall under the category of peace or love? Atheist for Jesus are buying the same BS as the religious in repeating the lie that jesus was a great moral teacher.
Great video, I agree with pretty much all of it. Though depending on your definition of the word 'problem', I'm not quite sure about the not having a problem with Jesus. Jesus, assuming the character existed, had some good things to say, but he also had his share of bad advice. Take no thought for tomorrow, separate from your family to be closer to god etc. Had he been a regular guy, I have no problem, but as a leader, real or not, I gotta say I have some issues.
Ezekiel 14:9 says that if a prophet gives a false prophecy, it's because God deceived him.
There's also the whole story of Abraham and Isaac, where God told Abraham he wanted his son as a sacrifice... but later basically said "Just kidding!"
And the fact that in Genesis, God tells Adam that he'll die on the same day that he eats the fruit from the forbidden tree.
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Some people just do not have the mental ability to comprehend reality; you shouldn't pick on these people. Of course they could just be stupid! I can't tell the difference.
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I am really glad that I will not be in your shoes when it comes time to stand before a Holy righteous God and explain to Him why I actively promoted the idea that He had lied to humanity when he said that He created the world, and then explained the sequence in which He did so. Have fun explaining that. Oh by the way, the very definition of "Christian" starte with trusting God, and if you can't trust His first words, can you claim to trust anything from Him? The word hypocrite comes to mind!
A metaphor is not a lie, a parable is not a lie. It is not lying to tell a moral truth threw allegory. Your very small view of god and it's power is more likely to incur gods wrath then someone studying his supposed handy work.
I truly feel sorry for you, and I can only hope that one day you are not so arrogant as to deny reality, for your world view.
I truly feel sorry for you and other deeply superstitious people. Such narrow world view, and such rejection of science that has produced the very computer you typed this comment on.
i,ve just watched his maths problem video,,so how does he explain that a single sperm is a human body in nine months i think he makes it up as he goes along,,
Thanks for this - if VFX uses the assertion that most of his critics are deluded by Satan because most are atheists, perhaps he'll listen to a Christian critic. More likely he'll just think you are too 'moderate' but its worth a try.
He could not do better than handing out CDs with the complete Radio 4 play 'Witness', based on the Gospel of Luke. Even I enjoyed listening to those and somehow I think even VFX himself could learn a few things about the man whose teachings he claims to follow.
As for your argument that believing in Christ and Creationism being separate issues... That is only true from a surface based POV. When I said 'believe in Christ' I didn't simply mean believe he existed, I meant believing that he is the Lord and Savior of the World. So if you believe that, but don't believe that God his father created the world, then how can you call yourself a Christian?
That's only the case if you believe in Evolution. I believe that the world is less than 10,000 years old so I don't believe God is 'tricking people into thinking he doesn't exist and then sending them to hell.'
I really want you to show me one thing if you have the time. You said a couple of times that 'your Creationist arguments have been refuted multiple times' but you claim you are a Christian. So my question is really two-fold. Where is this refuting proof? and if you say Creationism has been REFUTED, how can you say that you believe in Christ?
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Your reply illustrates that the very definition of religion has changed. Now it's easy to point and laugh at the circus of idiocracy. Religion is now the art of mindfucking for political manipulation. Believe it or not, long ago religion had some purpose, besides the self replication of a brain parasite. Anachronistic metaphors are just fine, as long as those learning from the tales are aware that the point is to maintain an open mind. When that is lost, it's not a religion, but a dogmatic cult.
As a Christian Myself, this is old stuff, but most atheists just don't listen to it.
I'm fine with believing in evolution and God, but none of that disproves God exists, yet nothing proves he does. No matter how much science is uncovered, that can't change, it's been the same way since the bible was written, since the Celtic age, the Medieval age, theres no reason for society to change its beliefs.
"No matter how much science is uncovered, that can't change, it's been the same way since the bible was written, since the Celtic age, the Medieval age, theres no reason for society to change its beliefs."
So the flat earth is still the center of the universe, schizophrenia is still caused by demons, women are still property, and minorities are cursed by the mark of Cain?
Certainly no reason for society to change its beliefs.
Why do you assume belief in God is the default logical position?
I mean theres still no proof he doesn't exist. hundreds of years ago you would have been executed or prosecuted from believing in aliens, but now that we know it's possible, all of a sudden god can't exist. It was stupid of me to call religion the default but meh. You get what I'm saying.
"I mean theres still no proof he doesn't exist. hundreds of years ago you would have been executed or prosecuted from believing in aliens, but now that we know it's possible, all of a sudden god can't exist. It was stupid of me to call religion the default but meh. You get what I'm saying."
You're saying that it's okay to believe in an extraordinary claim without any evidence...
There is no reason to believe, but there is no reason to disbelieve is there? If theres no evidence pointing either way (which is what I was trying to say) then would at LEAST observing the most influential book of all time should mean something to you?
There definitely *is* evidence pointing away from the book - the fact that it is consistently wrong in areas of science, the fact that miracles like the ones mentioned in the Bible simply do not happen, and the fact that prayer fails better than anything else.
The fact that a book is influential does not make it true.
If there's no evidence pointing either way, belief is not rational, reasonable, or justified.
Perhaps Christianity is not completely dead after all.
Perhaps one Christian knows that the baby is being thrown out with the bath water, by consistent acts of blatant thumper stupidity.
For too long has Christianity been synonymous with the narcissism of sociopaths. If the faith can cleanse itself, as this person sets the example for, Christianity can stop being a blight on the Earth and a disease in mankind.
I converted from apathist (thought the god thing was all irrelevant really) to atheist or anti-creationist when I read Dawkins' rearguard action and I looked the the US. It scared me so much. I have slight interest in understanding how people could believe all the religion stuff. A PCS video makes me think they are ALL nuts which I know is wrong, but he makes it so easy to dismiss creationist claims as loony when you hear such utter nonsense.
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Im an athiest, yet I agree, PCS should just (If he has too at all) put out a CD of his holy book, let people listen and decide for themselves, Personally, I think there quite possably was a man called Jesus (or simmilar) who was a jewish phillosopher of the time, but not devine or the son of any god, and his core message of peace and fellowship is important to look at, no matter your religious leanings.
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ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)
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SCIENCE SHOWS THAT THE UNIVERSE could not have sustained itself eternally because of entropy (even in an open system). Einstein confirmed that space, matter, and time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)
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EINSTEIN CONFIRMED that space and time are just as physical as matter. That's why space and time can be altered by gravity, and space produces particles. Einstein's equations show that the universe couldn’t be eternal. It had a beginning. Einstein believed, because of science, in the existence of God behind the origin and order of the universe. He didn't believe in a personal God like Christians do, but he did believe science pointed to the existence of an all powerful and intelligent Creator
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THE SCIENTIFIC CASE AGAINST ATHEISM: Please read this Internet article of mine published in Russia's English Pravda. It will be a real eye-opener for all who think belief in a Creator is merely subjective blind faith. Also read my article, LIFE ON MARS NO SURPRISE (In the Earth's past there was powerful volcanic activity which spewed life-containing dirt and rocks (meteors) into outer space. Mars may literally have millions of tons of Earth soil)
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NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How did species survive if their vital structures, organs, reproductive system were still evolving? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic and biological similarities between species.
Mogley52 4 months ago
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DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news on fossils, genetics, astronomy, etc. that you won't read in the main stream media. Visit the Institute for Creation Research site.
Mogley52 4 months ago
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EXPLAINING HOW AN AIRPLANE WORKS doesn't mean no one made the airplane. Explaining how life and the universe work don’t mean there was no Maker behind them. Natural laws explain how the order in the universe works, but mere undirected natural laws can't explain the origin of that order. Once you have a complete and living cell, the genetic code/mechanisms exist to direct the formation of more cells, but how did the cell originate when no directing code or mechanisms existed in nature?
Mogley52 4 months ago
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WHAT IS SCIENCE? Science is knowledge based on observation. No one observed the universe coming by chance or by design, by creation or by macro-evolution. These are positions of faith. The issue is which faith science supports. Natural laws explain how an airplane or a cell works, but undirected natural laws cannot bring about either. Once there's a complete cell, the code/mechanisms exist to direct the formation of more cells, but how did the cell originate when there was no directing code.
Mogley52 4 months ago
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SCIENTISTS HAVE NEVER CREATED LIFE. And, even if they do it won't be by chance but by intelligent design. By genetically engineering already existing forms of life, scientists have produced new forms of life, but they did not produce these new life forms from non-living matter. Even in synthetic life, scientists design and build DNA from scratch, through intelligent design, and then insert their man-made DNA into an already living cell. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 4 months ago
THE ODDS of the sequence of molecules in a cell coming together by chance are similar to the odds of magnetic letters randomly bonding together in a sequence to form all the words and sentences in a dictionary. Without the right sequence, a cell's molecules won't work. Amino acids can come by chance but not proteins. Without DNA there can be no proteins and vice versa. Gradually won't do. It's all at once or not at all for a cell's survival. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 4 months ago
@Mogley52 Ya I'm pretty sure that this videos maker Believes God is behind Abiogenesis being that he is a christian.
RomanHistoryNut 4 months ago
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NATURAL SELECTION DOESN'T PRODUCE ANYTHING. It can only "select" from what is produced that has survival value. If a variation occurs that helps a species survive, that survival is called being "selected." That's all it is. There's no conscious selection by nature. It's a passive process. Natural selection is a figure of speech. The term itself is a tautology. Natural selection only operates once there is life and reproduction, not before. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM.
Mogley52 4 months ago
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NATURAL SELECTION IS NO BLIND WATCHMAKER because it can only "select," not produce or arrange. If a variation survives, that's called being "selected." Natural selection operates only once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't have been involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it alive! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 4 months ago
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ARE FOSSILS REALLY MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD? Popular Internet article examines assumptions concerning fossil deposition as well as built-in assumptions involved in modern radiometric dating (not used for dating fossils but other rocks), and arguments from starlight and time. Discusses lack of true transitional forms in the fossil record and lack of "age" sequence of the fossil layers. Discussion of mixed species (i.e. dinosaur, reptile, mammal fossils in the same stratum).
Mogley52 4 months ago
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IMAGINE A FISH WITH PART FINS, part feet with the fins evolving (transitioning) into feet. What survival benefit would there be? The fish couldn't use its fins or its feet, and there are no fossils showing such a creature ever existed. They only exist on automobile bumper stickers! There are no true transitional forms, either living or fossilized. Evolutionists realize this fact! Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 4 months ago
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APES ARE QUITE COMFORTABLE IN HOW THEY WALK, just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone, for either, would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from ape-like creatures anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from four-legged-pawed dog-like creatures. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE.
Mogley52 4 months ago
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GENETIC INFORMATION CANNOT HAPPEN BY CHANCE, so it's more logical to believe that genetic similarities between all forms of life are due to a common Designer who designed similar functions for similar purposes. It doesn't mean all forms of life are biologically related! Also, "Junk DNA" isn't junk. These non-coding segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression. Read my popular Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 4 months ago
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SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST prevents macro-evolution. Natural selection wouldn't preserve the evolution of new traits because they wouldn't have any survival value. A partially-evolved hand evolving from a previous trait, partially-evolved tissues, organs, biological structures would make a species unfit for survival. There are no fossils of partially-evolved species. All species of plants and animals in the fossil record are complete and fully-formed. They came into existence as complete!
Mogley52 4 months ago
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NEW SPECIES: Although new species have come into existence, they don't carry any new genes. They've become new species only because they can't be crossed back with the original parent stock for various biological reasons. A biological "kind" allows for new species but not new genes. Nature has no ability to invent new genes for new traits. Only limited variations and adaptations are possible in nature, and all strictly within a biological "kind" (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.).
Mogley52 4 months ago
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ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) in nature is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 4 months ago
"JUNK DNA" ISN'T JUNK: Recent research shows that these segments of DNA are vital in regulating gene expression (when, where, and how genes are expressed). There's no room for random mutations to operate safely. Random mutations, from radiation, are destructive. Even for every good one there would be hundreds of harmful ones with the net effect, over time, causing harm and even extinction, not upward evolution. Genetic similarities are better explained due to a common design for common purposes.
Mogley52 4 months ago
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DO EYES CARRY SCARS OF EVOLUTION? Read this fantastic Internet article by biologist and creationist Brian Thomas. Thomas refutes every argument of a "flawed" design for the eye, and explains how and why the so-called flaw is actually the best thing for the eye. Read the article! It's amazing what facts evolutionists will ignore. Numerous times evolutionists have been proven wrong about their interpretation of a structure as being flawed or useless
Mogley52 4 months ago
HOW DOES DNA MAKE A BODY? When you divide a cake the parts are smaller than the original cake and the cake never gets bigger. When we were a cell and that cell divided, the new cells were the same size as the original cell and we got bigger. New material had to come from somewhere. That new material came from food. The sequence in our DNA directed our mother's food we received in the womb to become new cells forming all the tissues and organs of our body. Read my article: HOW DID MY DNA MAKE ME?
Mogley52 4 months ago
HUMAN EMBRYO doesn't have true gills or tail. These and other arguments have long been discarded by most evolutionists and not supported by any modern embryologist. Then, what are these structures? Read "Does The Human Embryo Go Through Animal Stages" at the Institute for Creation Research site. Briefly, what look like gills are early formation of facial and throat regions. What looks like a tail is the coccyx which grows faster than the rest of the body. The coccyx supports the pelvic muscles.
Mogley52 4 months ago
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DISORDER IN THE UNIVERSE is no argument against God's existence. The disorder is because of chance and entropy, but the order can only be rationally explained due to design. If I discovered a broken watch on the ground, the disorder is no evidence that there wasn't a designer behind the watch. Please read my Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 4 months ago
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BURDEN OF PROOF: Anyone who claims the level of complexity and order in life and the universe happened by chance has the burden of proof. Many atheists think they have no burden of proof because they’re not claiming the existence of something. That is not true. Atheists are claiming something. They are claiming that we are here by chance and atheists expect for everyone to accept that claim on faith because they certainly can’t prove it. Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 4 months ago
Any moment in my life spent admiring ANYTHING in ANY religious book is a moment wasted.
twistedH3L1X 7 months ago
Who is this Jesus character anyway?
I'm curious. Can you please give an account of his existence.
But, I want it done without any reference to the New Testament.
At best, other literature and accounts only vaguely mention a Jesus-like character.
It is seriously suggested that the man never existed, but was a conglomeration of stuff.
Outside the New Testament, tell me about Jesus.
I'm curious.
naganokumas 10 months ago
very good point made, try to tell us about parts of reality (god) yet reject other realities that are undeniable (evolution), then why should we even bother taking anything you say seriously?
mimura47 1 year ago
No the Big bang helps disprove Christianity The phenomenal event of virtual Particles is something coming from nothing Its nearly 0.1 out of 100 trillion chance to create a life Even lower for a Godly life But 1 out of 200 For mass energy and 1 out of 1 million for a Prime Simple single Cell creation. This is all learned from my advanced classes.
yuo252 1 year ago
@konamaiki1 no - he is very good looking, but don't let that sway you with regard to his arguments!
papercutpictures 1 year ago
yea but his arguments are good and he shold be distributing cds its all in an opinon so that argument cold be fliped wright around back to you btw wen all thous countless times wen he was disproven thanks for giving a example =D
whatisV 1 year ago
Sorry but I am not going to encourage some delusional boy to put the bible on cds. I know this christian thinks he is doing a good thing but not having some creationist drivel out there but really he is not. This boy needs help.
Also would not time, money and resources be better spent by christians on helping people like food, housing? No I do not hate the bible but I hate preaching and think if you honestly care for people the best think is to give them help they really need.
meleder 1 year ago
finally, a christian who makes a bit of sense.
rid him of his Christianity, and this gentlemen will make a fine atheist.
kittehprimo 1 year ago
@kittehprimo You can't have him, we need all the reasonable Christians we can get in our ranks.
admdelta 1 year ago 2
this twerp isthe best example of ignorant christians
FlawedUniverse 2 years ago
I haven't seen people mention that VFX has made videos that should hoax fossils of 50 foot men, hoax photos of 50 foot mummies, and hoax demo skulls. He claimed these were true. You can find the mirrors on a channel called either MartyrForChrist, MartyrofChrist. One such video was up as of last week.
jloiterer 2 years ago
venomfag is an idiot...
DJshahEshah 2 years ago 2
Sure he is, but that shouldn't ruin his life and follow him forever... Everybody can go wrong... Ok, perhaps not that much, but you know... ^^
Acrimonator 2 years ago
Venomfag is a moron. He didn't say anything about evolution. all he said was that if there is a god he's an ass hole killer no what I'm sayin. I wish you would die.
jackercrackbox 2 years ago
Do you realize that you are arguing with a mentally ill person? He may be Christian, but he is obviously Bipolar and hypomanic as well.
cholotara 2 years ago
A Christian with a modicum of intelligence and common sense?
Just when you think you've seen everything....
nemo3590 2 years ago
You know I tend not to post my religion, It is mine as an individual. There are so many denominations and variances... I love to debate athiests and theists alike. It is the struggle of man to determine his own role. If by nature or god's will we have free choice. I love science and I love faith. I am grateful for this video and hope people will see it as a chance to question there beliefs. Not so as to doubt themselves but as a chance to grow. I am rating this video five stars. Well done. TTFN!
Shadeeri 2 years ago
I appreciate this video. As an atheist, the one thing that bugs me the MOST about evangelicals is their INSANE and POINTLESS fight with evolution. I fail to understand why a LITERAL reading of genesis is necessary to christianity.
When they waste everyone's time fighting evolution they are only promoting ignorance.
GetMeThere1 2 years ago 4
@GetMeThere1--Who said it was to be taken literally? There was no apple that was eaten. The serpent was not a snake, at least at the point of his seduction of Eve. Who told you that christians take the creation story of Genesis literally? Regardless of how long it took for things to be as they are, it takes an impressive amount of denial and refusal to even WANT to know what's really going on to be able to see the magnificence of creation and not know that it was intelligent design.
tardwhisperer 3 months ago
@tardwhisperer "Who said it was to be taken literally?" Um, those many people who say so, that's who. And others don't--as you succeed in pointing out the obvious.
And that's the PROBLEM: the bible MEANS NOTHING, because the MEANING MUST BE INSERTED BY THE READER--therefore, it's arbitrary, and based on personal fantasy--not reality.
GetMeThere1 3 months ago
@GetMeThere1--There is absolutely no way that you could come to that conclusion except through deliberate denial. It means everything because it states the obvious. There is white and there is black. There is good and there is evil and we see this evidence through the actions of human beings on a daily basis. And now you will ask me who's to say which is which. The wicked are good debaters, but wrong nonetheless.
tardwhisperer 3 months ago
Two words: Cambrian explosion.
loqutor 2 years ago
Cambrian explosion happen over the span of 70 MILLION years. The word "explosion" only suggests the rapid acceleration of diversificaion in fauna and flora IN COMPARISON to the long history of Earth (approx. 4.6 billion years) and life on Earth (approx. 2.0 billion years).
70 million years is only a "flash of an eye" within 20 billion years, hence the word "explosion". Is it really so hard to conceptualize this?
smartiejl 2 years ago
Correction: "2.0 billion" instead of "20 billion" in the last paragraph in the previous reply.
That was a typo.
smartiejl 2 years ago
What is FFreeThinker's religious affiliation?
VanDoodah 2 years ago
Unless I am utterly confused, FFreeThinker is an atheist; he is doing what UNFFwildcard asked, and helping to circulate his video.
Well done UNFF - you got me to 5 star spreading the gospel, you sly devil you. (Don't infer anything by my use of the word devil.)
TheSoSoAgnostic 2 years ago 3
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Johannwyss82 2 years ago
you are probably the first NONE extremist christian.
I didin't thought that "you" existed here on youtube.
Tdawgiedawg 2 years ago 2
one thing i would like to say, ive rated commented and subscribed now, but i do have a problem with christ simply because he introduces the idea of hell, which, correct me if im wrong, is absent in the old testament. God killed plent of people in the old testament, but left them alone one they were dead, but it was jesus that brings the idea that souls are tortured for all eternity, and for that reason i do have a problem with christ
DeemotheAthiest 2 years ago
I love how VenomFangX has his comments for his videos set to approval only. He is pathetic, he doesn't want anybody questioning his views or giving other opinions. I figure "god" would want freedom to express, but apparently not. FUCK Venomfangx. All his videos comment sections are filled with "Praise the Lord" Bullshit. Makes me fucking sick.
420CannabisMaster420 2 years ago
Amen to that FFreeThinker...
idmann17 2 years ago
Damn, where such Christians are hiding? I've heard of leprechauns, but lol you're even more rare, haha. I didn't even know FFreethinker you were one. Damn.
RankAndFileGuy 2 years ago
He's not - see my reply to VanDoodah.
TheSoSoAgnostic 2 years ago
You may be right.
RankAndFileGuy 2 years ago
If he's a Protestant, then, if you don't mind my asking, why does he upload so many atheistic videos?
VanDoodah 2 years ago
??????
I said he was an atheist.
TheSoSoAgnostic 2 years ago
The exxon mess is still not cleaned up...
skipperiffic 2 years ago
It is true venomfangx is converting people and thats into atheists just what one of his videos there a joke.
wertssss1234 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
So, instead of simply complaining about nothing, try giving an example.
Like "when VFX said ___ it was wrong because of ___."
And I don't believe you're Christian. You can't possibly say that you believe in God yet doubt the literal word of God. That's stupid.
Neraph 2 years ago
Dude, did you even watch the video you're commenting on???
NoeLPZC 2 years ago
stop being so nice to VFX aka PCS. he has lost the right to mature discussion a looong time ago.
he deserves nothing but pointed fingers and ridicule now.
nekftw 2 years ago 2
that is true. I used to be catholic myself (I'm now a nonbeliever) and there is no way a logical person could think that catholics are not christians.
k9lionheart 2 years ago
Let VFX continue, he helps to create more atheists.
MeningsMod 2 years ago 19
sooo boring!!
MellowBlueFish 2 years ago
I swear to god that VFX's mouth looks like a vagina
neverlookback75 2 years ago
Is VFX a Christian?
If you believe in Jesus you then have to believe the Hebrews were the chosen people, if you believe that, then you have to believe in Adam / Eve (factually), if you believe that then you would have to believe God had relieved God-self to 1% of the world's population and ignored the rest.
Every human culture has a representation for the divine, unknown, etc. If you wish to explain the spread of Christianity you might explain why the world uses the Gregorian calendar.
jdquarg 2 years ago
bloody briliant
JTRAMPO 2 years ago
Those who 5 star this video are falling into a trap that Sam Harris talks about a lot. Moderate Christians give the more radical people a cloak of normalcy to hide behind. Supporting the distribution of any religious message just lends authenticity to kent Hovinds' of the world. If Christianity were not so big, would ANYONE listen to Hovind? As an atheist I don't want to see anyone evangelizing the bible or any religion.
Religion is the poison, not fundamentalism!
Take down the video, PLEASE!
christo930 2 years ago
if what you believe is true, than why bother challenging religion when you have nothing to gain and yet everything to lose?
JTRAMPO 2 years ago
Take your head out of Sam Harris's ass for a few minutes and see the objective of what is being done in this video instead of WHO is doing it. I mean, are you suggesting that all charities with a large religious base close up shop just because they are linked to religion despite the good they are doing? If so, I don't think you'd find many people to support you in that arena. In fact, you'd probably come across as an intolerant bigot atheist stereotype.
dawn0293 2 years ago
What charity? VFX deadbeat fund? What kind of objective is spreading lies from a convicted fraud? With the circumstances and past situations, it damn well does matter who is doing it. Don't you think it's a little ironic that VFX is asking for money right after he talks about not being able to hold onto a job? Considering the huge house he lives in, the big tvs, the video game systems he has, it is just redundant to hear him beg for money.
Shaggy6386 2 years ago
Yes, I do think they should be closed, despite any good they are doing. There are many, many non religious charities which do wonderful things all over the world without spreading poison and lies. Religious theocracies are trying to kill free speech through the UN, establish Sharia law in the west and the Catholic church is the largest real estate holder in the US and doesn't pay 1 red cent of taxes while helping to spread aids in Africa which a real charity will have to clean up!
christo930 2 years ago 3
Free Speech is the key word here! As a fellow atheist, I would like to see religion's mouth shut too, but I want to live in a world where everyone has the right to speak their mind and if you want religion to shut up then it's only fair to ask us to shut up too! Do you want to live in a world of censorship?
raistlin072 2 years ago
I ignore VFX because he is an unrealistic, biased, closed-minded, brainwashed Christian. Not all Christians are, but he is. Plus he ignores all people that refute him. He is a coward with no common sense. He admits that his religion is so overwhelming that he can't properly function in society, which is why he can't hold a job. He can't stop spewing his garbage about the bible at everyone whether it's appropriate or not, even when they tell him they don't want to hear it.
KoDT69 2 years ago 3
VFX can't hold a job because he's a malcontent little Bible thumping prick.
CoffinPuppet 2 years ago
Superb Video! 5 stars.
As an atheist, I do wish individuals had two cd*s to listen too. One about a god and, another as to the amount of evidence of this said; god.
Otherwise, I, as an individual, will need to filter out what I hear from **fully** un-informed cd victims.
No, I do not hold any hate for the religions. That in itself is quite shallow.
I do however, require a solid and/or near solid base of information to form my opinions on, which makes me uneasy with the religious mind.
KARIN094 2 years ago
Awesome video.
RonjaRT 2 years ago
Great job!
statixmx 2 years ago
Beautifully put man. Our Creator is beyond our comprehension.Sadly people like VFX are too afraid to actually have faith in that and have a complusive need to prove nothing but a distorted opinion of their little ego-maniacal selves.
CoffinPuppet 2 years ago
i guess vfx doesnt understand you cant debate someone into loving the lord
JTRAMPO 2 years ago
Sooo... let me get this straight. It's not in your "fellow Christian" character to actively evangelize yourself, but you wish to advise FangX on how to evangelize?
brntoki 2 years ago
^_- Why do they have a door way to hell there? Like the closet to Narnia?
Ing213 2 years ago
On the brighter side there's no evidence there is a hell. YAY!
Ing213 2 years ago
Well,,,,,,he is a young kid that works at a video store, what do you expect ?
dannukesem 2 years ago
clerks 3!!!!!!!!!
whispers83 2 years ago
What a moral god! Sentencing someone to eternal torture for something he admits is not their fault. Loving god? I think not.
jamer01 2 years ago 3
Actually i do have a problem with Jesus. Although he is seen as a figure of good, some of his actions make him an evil maniac. Spreading fear among people and asking people to do bad things by our standards today.
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blessthelads 2 years ago
The question of evolution to me seems to be one of the very least important things to consider as a Christian. Christianity is about christ - not refuting science.
Ormaaj 2 years ago 3
Earth Final Conflict is better man
scotishjohn 2 years ago
fictional i said. please read the full comment before getting so pushy. he's in the same category to me as Dr. Seuss characters, Santa Clause and Disney. same team my friend, no need to bite my head off.
franksaninocencio 2 years ago
I believe that Venomfangx oozes of pride and will never admit to his errors in judgment. No amount of evidence will ever change his mind.
Such is the depth of human delusion.
billybee53 2 years ago 11
I'm an atheist and whilst I don't support every aspect of what you say I support your intent and as such am happy to rate your video as 5 stars (if I can figure out how). Keep 'em coming bro!
KyuuketsukiUK 2 years ago
Where is the delusion in obama becoming president?
jamer01 2 years ago
While I'm happy that trying to get VFX to shut up is a good thing, I have to disagree that evolution is just a belief for atheists. How many more times do we have to say that evolution is a theory which has stood firm for 150 years, and has been re-inforced by branches of science which were unknown in Darwins time? We believe that evolution is true because of the facts, but don't believe it in the sense of a faith, which is based on no evidence whatsoever.
Good argument though.
wordavee 2 years ago
Intriguing.
You know, what you said about atheists view of reality is the exact same as those of us who believe in the spiritual from the other side of the table.
boony68 2 years ago
well of course, it's just not believing in a supreme intelligent being that created and governs everything. It's not even necessarily saying there is none, mostly just that there is no evidence and thus no pressing need to believe.
Ing213 2 years ago
And who gets to make such a decision for those of us who choose to believe in the spiritual ?
boony68 2 years ago
You can believe in it all you want...but don't expect to be able to reasonably defend it to people who want evidence. And definitely do NOT try to enforce your spiritual beliefs on everyone. that includes your morals if you cannot give a good practical reason why such a thing is a moral issue.
As long as you shut up about it I don't think anyone would really care...but stuff like Christianity due to the tenants CANT be silent. They have to 'save' everyone.
Ing213 2 years ago
I'm sure many of the believers think so :P
FreePlay 2 years ago
He didn't walk on water, heal diseases, or get birthed by a virgin. He was just a nice guy promoting peace and love. Atheists for Jesus.
franksaninocencio 2 years ago 2
Jesus' message isn't original... why support him and not the people he borrowed it from? He's got too much baggage, I think.
FreePlay 2 years ago
i meant Jesus as a fictional historical figure. i do not know who his mentors were. i was raised on Aesop's Fables and those stories are a lot nicer then the old testament and the koran. nevertheless, all of the Jesus stories are nice as well, except for the David Blain stuff.
franksaninocencio 2 years ago
That's just the thing - Jesus really *isn't* much of a historical figure. Apart from the Bible, there is no record of anything whatsoever that he said.
What I was really trying to say is that the mythology of Jesus is just a conglomeration of things that came before.
FreePlay 2 years ago
Does eternal hellfire for nonbelievers fall under the category of peace or love? Atheist for Jesus are buying the same BS as the religious in repeating the lie that jesus was a great moral teacher.
jamer01 2 years ago
Jesus stories are better than Muhammed stories.
franksaninocencio 2 years ago
But Chuck Noris's are better than both!
Ing213 2 years ago
Ugh...stop flattering this guy. He's a little snot! Do you really want to be ANYTHING like him? Even in his zeal?
ArranoGris 2 years ago
AMEN!
eproulx 2 years ago
Excellent video. I agree with most of it too.
deconverts 2 years ago
Great video, I agree with pretty much all of it. Though depending on your definition of the word 'problem', I'm not quite sure about the not having a problem with Jesus. Jesus, assuming the character existed, had some good things to say, but he also had his share of bad advice. Take no thought for tomorrow, separate from your family to be closer to god etc. Had he been a regular guy, I have no problem, but as a leader, real or not, I gotta say I have some issues.
forger42 2 years ago
Ezekiel 14:9 says that if a prophet gives a false prophecy, it's because God deceived him.
There's also the whole story of Abraham and Isaac, where God told Abraham he wanted his son as a sacrifice... but later basically said "Just kidding!"
And the fact that in Genesis, God tells Adam that he'll die on the same day that he eats the fruit from the forbidden tree.
FreePlay 2 years ago 2
Ramen, brother. Preach on, preacha.
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Cavandh 2 years ago
Some people just do not have the mental ability to comprehend reality; you shouldn't pick on these people. Of course they could just be stupid! I can't tell the difference.
DustyMay1944 2 years ago
Hopefully THIS one gets through to him.
Nadiathenotuninsane 2 years ago
Don't get your hopes up.
Shaggy6386 2 years ago 4
Ha til I got to the end i thought I was finding out FFreethinker was a Christian, then I finally realized you were mirroring this. Phew
bmcguire80 2 years ago
Well done
bdenniso 2 years ago
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I am really glad that I will not be in your shoes when it comes time to stand before a Holy righteous God and explain to Him why I actively promoted the idea that He had lied to humanity when he said that He created the world, and then explained the sequence in which He did so. Have fun explaining that. Oh by the way, the very definition of "Christian" starte with trusting God, and if you can't trust His first words, can you claim to trust anything from Him? The word hypocrite comes to mind!
patcm19 2 years ago
A metaphor is not a lie, a parable is not a lie. It is not lying to tell a moral truth threw allegory. Your very small view of god and it's power is more likely to incur gods wrath then someone studying his supposed handy work.
I truly feel sorry for you, and I can only hope that one day you are not so arrogant as to deny reality, for your world view.
EndGameOmega 2 years ago
I truly feel sorry for you and other deeply superstitious people. Such narrow world view, and such rejection of science that has produced the very computer you typed this comment on.
shihouka 2 years ago 2
If it is all metaphor and parable, why believe that any of it is literally true?
FreePlay 2 years ago
you do reliease that bible has been editted many times and what lies in the bible therefor would not be the direct word of god....so yea ur an idiot
bdenniso 2 years ago 3
God says he lies. It's in the Bible. Sorry.
FreePlay 2 years ago
People like VenomfangX are destroying their own cause, by giving atheists a rich mine of paper tigers. Keep it up VFX! You are making it far easier.
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
ehm.. i'm an atheist and i hate god? and religion? :p we're already a step further by now. peacec sells.. but who's buying?
phatjesus008 2 years ago
how can you be a Christian and NOT be a creationist that is just ridiculous.
CelestialDependency 2 years ago
i,ve just watched his maths problem video,,so how does he explain that a single sperm is a human body in nine months i think he makes it up as he goes along,,
drfarenheight 2 years ago
Thanks for this - if VFX uses the assertion that most of his critics are deluded by Satan because most are atheists, perhaps he'll listen to a Christian critic. More likely he'll just think you are too 'moderate' but its worth a try.
He could not do better than handing out CDs with the complete Radio 4 play 'Witness', based on the Gospel of Luke. Even I enjoyed listening to those and somehow I think even VFX himself could learn a few things about the man whose teachings he claims to follow.
ChrisJMoor 2 years ago
As for your argument that believing in Christ and Creationism being separate issues... That is only true from a surface based POV. When I said 'believe in Christ' I didn't simply mean believe he existed, I meant believing that he is the Lord and Savior of the World. So if you believe that, but don't believe that God his father created the world, then how can you call yourself a Christian?
Masterschafe 2 years ago
FreePlay,
That's only the case if you believe in Evolution. I believe that the world is less than 10,000 years old so I don't believe God is 'tricking people into thinking he doesn't exist and then sending them to hell.'
Masterschafe 2 years ago
I really want you to show me one thing if you have the time. You said a couple of times that 'your Creationist arguments have been refuted multiple times' but you claim you are a Christian. So my question is really two-fold. Where is this refuting proof? and if you say Creationism has been REFUTED, how can you say that you believe in Christ?
Masterschafe 2 years ago
"if you say Creationism has been REFUTED, how can you say that you believe in Christ? "
It's quite simple, since the two are unrelated.
FreePlay 2 years ago
their more than related the bible says that Christ was their when Creation happened!!! lolz this is just a silly.
CelestialDependency 2 years ago
"their more than related the bible says that Christ was their when Creation happened!!! lolz this is just a silly."
So he both lives outside of time AND worries that God left him while he was on the cross?
Sorry. If he thought God had left him, he couldn't live outside of time.
Not that any of it matters; the whole book is nonsense.
FreePlay 2 years ago
john 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
CelestialDependency 2 years ago
The Bible is a meaningless book of fiction.
FreePlay 2 years ago 3
There's also the fact that if God created the universe, then he did it in a way that doesn't require his existence.
Is God really so much of a jerk that he'll trick people into thinking he doesn't exist and then send them to hell?
The simpler answer is that he really *doesn't* exist. No need to rationalize it away.
FreePlay 2 years ago
Your reply illustrates that the very definition of religion has changed. Now it's easy to point and laugh at the circus of idiocracy. Religion is now the art of mindfucking for political manipulation. Believe it or not, long ago religion had some purpose, besides the self replication of a brain parasite. Anachronistic metaphors are just fine, as long as those learning from the tales are aware that the point is to maintain an open mind. When that is lost, it's not a religion, but a dogmatic cult.
DonQuixotedeKaw 2 years ago 2
As a Christian Myself, this is old stuff, but most atheists just don't listen to it.
I'm fine with believing in evolution and God, but none of that disproves God exists, yet nothing proves he does. No matter how much science is uncovered, that can't change, it's been the same way since the bible was written, since the Celtic age, the Medieval age, theres no reason for society to change its beliefs.
NintendoDevil 2 years ago
"No matter how much science is uncovered, that can't change, it's been the same way since the bible was written, since the Celtic age, the Medieval age, theres no reason for society to change its beliefs."
So the flat earth is still the center of the universe, schizophrenia is still caused by demons, women are still property, and minorities are cursed by the mark of Cain?
Certainly no reason for society to change its beliefs.
Why do you assume belief in God is the default logical position?
FreePlay 2 years ago
I love it when people take things out of context.
I mean theres still no proof he doesn't exist. hundreds of years ago you would have been executed or prosecuted from believing in aliens, but now that we know it's possible, all of a sudden god can't exist. It was stupid of me to call religion the default but meh. You get what I'm saying.
NintendoDevil 2 years ago
"I mean theres still no proof he doesn't exist. hundreds of years ago you would have been executed or prosecuted from believing in aliens, but now that we know it's possible, all of a sudden god can't exist. It was stupid of me to call religion the default but meh. You get what I'm saying."
You're saying that it's okay to believe in an extraordinary claim without any evidence...
FreePlay 2 years ago
Once you bother to provide evidence that he actually does exist, we can have this conversation. Until then, I'll continue to disbelieve.
FreePlay 2 years ago
1. I'm not trying to make you believe.
2. I never claimed there is proof he exists.
NintendoDevil 2 years ago
Then why on earth do you believe it?
FreePlay 2 years ago
There is no reason to believe, but there is no reason to disbelieve is there? If theres no evidence pointing either way (which is what I was trying to say) then would at LEAST observing the most influential book of all time should mean something to you?
NintendoDevil 2 years ago
There definitely *is* evidence pointing away from the book - the fact that it is consistently wrong in areas of science, the fact that miracles like the ones mentioned in the Bible simply do not happen, and the fact that prayer fails better than anything else.
The fact that a book is influential does not make it true.
If there's no evidence pointing either way, belief is not rational, reasonable, or justified.
FreePlay 2 years ago 3
Well said, sir
SayYesToReason 2 years ago
A Christian cleaning his own "house"! Amazing!
Perhaps Christianity is not completely dead after all.
Perhaps one Christian knows that the baby is being thrown out with the bath water, by consistent acts of blatant thumper stupidity.
For too long has Christianity been synonymous with the narcissism of sociopaths. If the faith can cleanse itself, as this person sets the example for, Christianity can stop being a blight on the Earth and a disease in mankind.
Hope. Is it too much to ask for?
DonQuixotedeKaw 2 years ago
If Christianity can cleanse itself of irrationality and fearful superstition, then and only then will it stop being a blight.
Of course, it would then also no longer be a religion.
FreePlay 2 years ago
im the troll your the one that wont go away. stop replying to me.
also your the one on here all the damn time attacking others.
so go get a life my friend.
ltdan676 2 years ago
It's unfortunate that you can't distinguish between a personal attack and debating.
FreePlay 2 years ago
you call me a troll that's a personal attack ass.
how much of your life do you spend on here. god damn. its like your whole life is spent on youtube.
you know theres other things besides being on here.
i think its about time you grow up.
ltdan676 2 years ago