I don'ty get it why Christian doesn't want to file a divorce? Are they going to live like this forever? Not that I want a divorce, never! But, you know? It's strange they are not thinking about it at all!
Thanks May :) - its becoming unbearable watching Christian & Olli fight, and seeing Christian with Theresa, and I hated how agressive he was with her too, I don't like the girl but that was out of order - all this talk of dividing property, buying a horse, divorce.....its exausting!!! :( :(
I hate Jessica (egotistical, selfish, slut). Compare to her, Olivia seems like a saint. Olivia cares for Olli and support him through many rough time. Can't wait till the day when Jessica leave and never come back. Her evil smile at 10:00 make me want to slap her :O
@dabiduriona Well Christian sure looks older then Olli at the moment...as Olli is suppose to be older than Christian on the show. Christian beauty seems to have faded!!!!!!!!!
Can the reconciliation of Chrolli hurry up already?!! Don't get me wrong, I like the cheap shots and daggers thrown from the eyes, but VL is in an alternate universe right now. Olli is BFFs with Jessica & Christian has been messing around with Theresa. SeriouslStarting to like Jessica, but not so much Theresa.
"I have no plans to get a divorce...for whatever reason." 0_0 That...was the sweetest thing i've ever heard out of Christian mouth in a damn LONG time! That almost brought tears to my eyes xD
And finally Christian's heart problem comes into play. Jesus! I thought the writer's totally forgot about that...
And i love how he and what'sherface seem to be growing apart. Good! Great! Now more chances for Chrolli to COME BACK!!!!! Dx
Why was my comment removed? I didn't slander any of the actors, I don't have any hidden knowledge about whether Jo Weil will stay on the show--I'm speculating based on an interview he gave. I'm also observing: I think it's ridiculous that women and gay relationships are only considered viable on tv if women, or the people involved in those gay relationships are under 30. My comment is valid criticism, and you need to restore it. If not you need to give me a clear and specific reason why. Thanks.
@WraithCake8 You need to be less agressive, and you need to stop posting spoilers. If it wasn't in the middle of the night, I'd send you a PM to let you know what the spoiler was if you realy want to play innocent. Rumors about what might happen in the future are considered a spoiler. Everything that hasn't happened yet is a spoiler. Please keep the comments about the episode you're currently watching. Thanks.
-.-' uhm.... if you go back to the episode where Olivia is giving the money she stole from Olli to that "manager" that was suppose to make her famous you will see what happens to her
MercuryMay, will you be posting any of the Tanja/Clarissa feud since Olli and Jessica will be part of it? From the sounds of it, it sounds like Tanja/Clarissa will be the equivalent of The Knots Landing feud between Joan collins and Linda Evans characters on there. A good bitchfight is always fun to watch.
Ok, wardrobe may have horrible taste in most of Olli's outfits, but not his pants. Jo fills out all of his pants, regardless of style, nicely! "Stares at his ass non-stop"
@ShawnActor Tanja and Clarissa will only be part of my uploads if they interact with either Christian or Olli. I'm not sure if maybe someone else on YT is uploading their scenes.
Ok, thanks, May. that's all I needed to know. I sure wish the site would put subtitles to their videos for US fans to watch, because I'm interested enough to watch the whole show.
I'll have to look around and see if any other VL uploaders are posting full episodes. Although I doubt it.
@ShawnActor I know what you mean, but why would VL provide subs? It's a German show produced for the German audience. It's not like shows in the US (or any other country) provide subs in German, Spanish, French etc. And VL is pretty nice about heaving clips of certain storylines up on YT; I doubt they'd be thrilled if someone made the whole show available on YT, though. That would be taking it a little too far. People can watch the whole show at their own DasErste Mediathek (without subs).
I wish they would hurry up and bring in a new guy for Olli. Everything I've seen leads me to believe they writers are not going to address the core issues that caused the breakup, so I'd rather Chrolli not get back together.
@daiselladarling "@WraithCake8 No poo pooing here. Simply letting @PKZ8 in on a secret. Many of us, despite our being engaged by Chrolli and the community of viewers that has grown around it, realize that we're spitting in the wind. Who among us really thinks the producers and writers at VL give a gnat's ass what we want." Well, you're right. *sigh* :(
Oh everybody stop poo pooing @PKZ8. Unfortunately, I think PK is speaking the truth. It is a daytime soap, and VL, like any program, will consider its domestic local audience first. That's where the money is. Besides, PK's opinion never has to bear on what programs you like to watch. We can like to watch whatever we want--right? So, PKZ8 don't stop posting, I love reading what other people think.
@WraithCake8 No poo pooing here. Simply letting @PKZ8 in on a secret. Many of us, despite our being engaged by Chrolli and the community of viewers that has grown around it, realize that we're spitting in the wind. Who among us really thinks the producers and writers at VL give a gnat's ass what we want.
A CERVICAL COLLAR LOL Best Translation ever. It's Christian who needs a cervical collar to keep him away from lady part not Olli.. Thanks May for a great laugh and to VL for a great episode CHROLLI forever <3
Jessica only told Olli what she heard them discussing, so she did tell the truth, she never heard that Christian had changed his mind. Does anyone think it strange how close Olli and Jessica seem to be getting.
@daiselladarling "Now it's about as wondrous as a turd in a punchbowl." HA HA HA HA HA HA....heh, heh, heh! Yes, it has been about as wondrous as a turd in a punchbowl--Wherez my DRINK?!
Christian's behavior toward women is somehow strange ..for my taste to much violence was in the scene with Theresa ... this scene reminded me of that terrible outburst of rage Christian had in the hospital, when he blamed Olli that he almost killed Lilly:(( I don't like it
Okay, I get the whole Christian and Olli are separated thing. Christian says he doesn't want a divorce, but does he really think it's okay to date while he's married?
@hongyewu I know xD That part excited me too!!! As soon as Christian delivered that line, my mouth just dropped and then i was like, "Shit...if i'm about to cry over THIS, then i'm gonna be a mess when the reconciliation happens." (which i will be anyway, but...) lol
while Theresa sees her chances fade away she now tries to get Christian back on her side, Christians reaction at the end was kind of harsh, but it was good to see that he put her in her place and rebuffs her plans of a own stud farm
and you could see that her words about boxing,... and then the confrontation with Olli make him think about his life now, and he seem not happy with what he had now, his life is only a mess at the moment
@phb85 I don't think Theresa is the best girlfriend for Christian but I will say she is getting him to think more about what HE wants out of life. Christian likes working with horses but can he honestly want to do the same thing at age 40? He's a young man that had big dreams becoming a boxer. I think Christian will open his own business. Olli owns No Limits but it seemed to me he never treated Christian as an equal in their relationship. Christian wants to live his own life on his own terms.
Boy both Jessica and Theresa are a royal pain in the arse. I hear that, I was wondering when Christian was going to wake up and smell the coffee, I hope the writers keep on making Christian "see the light" and the same goes for Olli too. Kick both women to the curb.
I cannot wait to see the clash of the titans... It promises to be the most anti-climatic episode VL has ever come up with, going on present writing skills!!!
Are we now seeing Christians POV of the story? Up to now we've only seen Ollis pain and suffering.
This is getting better - not good yet but better.
I was so sure I would be among at least the first top 20 viewers. I am always beaten to the punch. That asside, I have regained hope. Christian and Olli still love each other. That said, Olli still needs a Raphael to prompt his spouse further. That said, I do not condone infidelity of any sort,lol.
it's interesting how many people on YT have still the need and desire to discuss Chrolli. In Germany almost nobody cares about this couple .
your views can't affect anything and it's irrelevant how many people on YT hate Olli , or hate Christian . the VL-writers don't care about German viewers , let alone about international fans of Chrolli , bc this couple is absolutely unimportant to the ratings :/ so calm down people , your discussions and pro-Olli / pro- Christian fights are pointless ;)
@PKZ8 As if Germany sets the bar! Some of us are aware of our irrelevance. We figured this out many moons ago when, despite their international popularity, Chrolli was being gutted by the writers in the new story line. Who cares, except you apparently, if the car is running in neutral and not going anywhere. The marvel of the combustion engine can occupy one's attention for quite some time and, besides, the hum can be quite interesting and soothing to listen to.
@daiselladarling - Well said. We understand the irrelevance of the international fans. But it does not stop us from venting our anger/pleasure/thoughts about this couple. Shame that the Germans are so blind to what they have created, if PKZ8 is anything to go by...
@PKZ8 it was so nice of you to join yt TODAY to tell us how unimportant we as international viewers are. Whether are not we are pro-Olli, pro-Christian or pro Chrolli we all have the same purpose and that's to enjoy and discuss what Germany gives us in this storyline and what MM so graciously translates for us and for that we are very thankful
@PKZ8 You are right that us international fans don't have the same importance as German fans. However, why did Thore and Jo visit Canada and the United States a few years ago? VL isn't even available on North American television. The VL producers must of given the okay for the guys to visit North America and conduct press over here for a reason. So although us international fans don't have any bearing on the ratings the VL writers KNOW we exist and they KNOW we love Chrolli!
it's interesting how two women are destroying life of Chrolli. Jessica manipulates Olli and Theresa manipulates Chris :(I hope he's not so stupid and he won't finance her dreams , it would be a disaster:( I hope Christian will finally wake up of his horrible Arrogance -Dream. He was not bad in this ep.,but it doesn't make me forget all his cheating and horrible behavior lately.I hope the old Christian will come back ASAP btw. Olli's scenes were so funny ..great acting by Jo :))
Jessica's character is simply too flat--too self interested, too, too, tootoo something uninteresting to watch. The actress herself seems lovely. But it does take a little bit of personal depth to bring a character to life--despite the writing. Olivia was able to do this--though she was a little older. In all her lack of conscience--which was a vaporous mist at the best of times--she was so damn funny, and very perceptive. The actress was able to pull this off with her body language--
Christian and Olli need to have their own show. And it needs to be a comedy. Ya! It would be like a gay version of "Mad About You". Everyone else's life would spin in dramatic situations around them--but they would be a unit. Or...or, barring that, Gregor and Luisa would die in some horribly tragic, horribly dramatic accident and Christian would have custody of their kids. Viola--single dad, though not really BECAUSE Oliver would feel obligated to take care of them too: Poof instant family!
Enough said. the fans want Chroilli back together! Get to it VL writters..we want a good hard ........maybe a lil nude wrestling here and there to fulfill our gluttonous appetite!
THIS IS A DUMB SOAP--why oh WHY did I ever get hooked on a soap?? Wait! I remember: It was a very STRAIGHT (very macho) guy, inexplicably falling in lust with his cute as a button flat mate--then...then OMG falling in love with him.What a deliriously delicious story--AND Christian was happy, happier then he'd ever been. I don't remember how many times he'd said that. Now from that to this: a stale, milkless bowl of freeze dried flakes. I don't give a shit about these stupid peoples lives.
@WraithCake8 What was so special about Chrolli was the improbability of it all: a "straight" hunk of delicious eye-candy falling for an adorably brooding flat mate after being possessed by a single kiss. It was the "Sleeping Beauty", the "Snow White" kiss that awakens the Adored from her (his) dreamless, unfulfilled life and brings meaning and purpose (love) to her (his) existence. It was magical because it was improbable yet predestined. Now it's about as wondrous as a turd in a punchbowl.
About time christian had some sense and dealt with t..I actually liked him in this eposide, and olli he was funny you can definalty see that christian and olli still love each other thank you May..
@TeamTooMany, I think Christian still wants to try to reconcile, but Olli won't have anything of it. I think Christian would drop anything else, if Olli would simply stop being so "tétu". (Stubborn as a mule)
I don't understand why Olli is still nice to Jessica. I mean, yes there is a such thing as being a 'nice guy' but this is just too much. Every time he looks up she is tricking him into something & trying to ruin his relationships & basically, his life (flooding his apt, etc.). When is enough going to be enough?
Olli needs to move first...Christian tried to reconcile and Olli would have nothing of it. Sad. Their relationship has helped me in my hetero marriage!
This goes out to all true Crolli fans: You know thinking about cheating/ bi moments... Didn't Olli kiss Coco when she was still with Christian, before Olli even liked him? Olli then proceded to tell Coco that he was bi. So this whole, "Oh you like women now, so you can't like men!" nonsense is just that; a load of bs. They both made huge mistakes before their break up, I could do a reverse time line if I wanted. Now, they need to recongnize their feels and try to start reconnecting.
im still wondering when are they getting a divorce.. its obvious Christian is straight.. i mean bi is understandable but olli is the only guy he would be forever and he can get as many girls as he wants.. the balance is off to be "bi" so theres no point anyways
@klinton123 I think that Christian is with a woman so that he wont have to feel what he feels with Olli. He doesnt even like Teresa. She is just a distraction. Women are easier for him because he is used to that before Olli. He never chased any men.
if christian has trying to show that he still loves Olli, very obvious hint.. then imma watch this.. hahah.. I don't really like to watch fighting/arguing/sad scene between christian and olli. though i know this is part of life and I have just went through it.. but I dislike.
"For whatever reasons." Did Christian mean he wouldn't give Ollie a divorce no matter what the reasons? Or did he mean it more sarcastically as in he didn't understand the reasons why they were still holding on?
I used to read hate comments about Christian, and now people are writing hate comment about Olli and wanting Christian to divorce him already. People, that's sad. I hope no words related to divorce ever come near to any of their discussions. I've regained hope! Hopefully Chrolli will get back together soon<3
@SixSixxty6 There are some people who like to watch Christian and Oliver as a couple, and there are some people who like to watch them as two seperate entities. Speaking for myself, it's their individual characters that intrigue me, so I can be entertained by watching them whether their together or not. As of right now, both Christian and Oliver want two different things in life (what Christian wants, we may never know). Maybe once both characters grow as individuals, they can get back together.
@superxx57 Okay, I'll admit that knowing what Christian wants sometimes it's difficult to figure out, but according to you, what do you think Olli want's?
@vjbandido I think what Olli originally wanted was the "American dream"--a successful business, a faithful spouse, and children...He wanted a stable, fufilling life. Unfortunately, Christian squashed that dream in more ways than one. Now since Oliver has clearly lost apart of himself after losing Christian, he wants to find himself again as a 33-year-old single man. This may explain why some people prefer that Oliver doesn't get back with Christian at the moment, among other reasons...
@superxx57 Which part of the dream is American? The successful business, the faithful spouse, or the children. Or is it "American" to want the three as a package deal? I have a feeling that most people want at least one, if not two, of the three components. Indeed, Christian wanted the first two. What he didn't want, at least for the immediate future, was the children component. The infidelity quashed only one aspect of the dream: the faithful spouse component. Business is still good.
@daiselladarling According to the American mainstream society, the "American dream" is to have all three as a package deal as you put it. As for Christian, you're wrong about one thing: Christian did want children. Don't you recall when he told Andi verbatim that he has always wanted a wife and kids? It's when Christian gets a husband that he decides that he doesn't want children anymore. Interesting. I guess having the wife and kids was seen only as a package deal for Christian.
@superxx57 You're right. When reflecting on his life before Olli, Christian did state that he had wanted a wife and kids. That seems, however, to have been part of the ideal heterosexual life he had presumed he would live simply because he was presumably straight. It was rather the preordained existence that almost everyone is inculcated with by virtue of having a set of heterosexual (or even homosexual, in some states) parents. Breaking that cycle requires a conscious decision or fate.
@superxx57 It's odd because I think Olli is really a heap of contradictions. He said he wanted a stable relationship with children included yet he complained about Christian's homebody tendencies and his disinterest in going out partying. He frittered countless nights away with Rob, hitting the hot nightspots while Christian remained at home. Olli's interest in things is intense but relatively short-lived. He was once white hot about foster parenting now he's not. Now it's modeling.
@daiselladarling I disagree. Be a partier is not equivilent to being in an unstable relationship. Everything else you said proves my original point. The only reason Oliver spent nights hitting the hot nightspots with Rob is because he wanted his business to thrive, nothing more or less. When Olli got married, he wanted to have a family, which is normal. I don't think Olli ever stopped wanting that, but he can't find a gay man who wants the same thing, so he's trying to find himself by modeling.
@superxx57 Now there's a first: trying to find oneself and the meaning to one's life by modeling. Who knew that wearing designer clothes and having makeup artists and hair stylists fuss over you was the surest route to self-discovery. Being a partygoer at 33 years of age says something about Olli's character--if only that he's having a hard time accepting that he's no longer in his 20s. Getting married and wanting a family is not necessarily "normal"--not even for heterosexual couples!
@daiselladarling Though it may not be necessary, it's definitely considered normal. Otherwise, gays wouldn't be fighting so hard for gay marriage and recognition of legal adoption bewteen gay couples. However, I will acknowledge that the word "normal" has many different connotations depending on the individual, so I'll associate the word "normal" with the word "common" to eliminate confusion.
@superxx57 IMO, Gays are fighting for these rights no so much because they wish to run out immediately and exercise them, but because they wish to know that, one day, any day, should they choose to marry or to adopt a child, they may do so with no additional hassle or paperwork than is required of anyone else. It's the very nature of civil rights. You may not wish to avail yourself of the rights afforded you but it's essential that they exist to ensure your ability to do so if you choose.
@superxx57 In partying with Rob, however, he put his relationship in second place as was evident in the deference he showed him and failed to show Christian. And you're right--as I suggested many months ago--Olli went through a period in which his relationship with Christian suffered because he was overzealous for success. But Olli didn't want just monetary success he also wanted his 15 minutes of celebrity at nearly any cost and that says something about his character also.
@daiselladarling If that were the case, Oliver would've dumped Christian a long time ago. Olli has always been in Christian's corner, supporting him in anything he did. I don't recall one instance where Christian supported Olli...or Nico, or Coco. If it's not about him, he thinks it's silly.
I'm noticing that we're getting a bit off-topic. Having said that, both guys have some growing up to do, which is why I think it would do more harm than good if they were to get back together at this point.
@superxx57 I, on the contrary, can recall a lot of times Christian supported Olli: the beating; the aneurism situation; he encouraged Olli when he wanted to have his own business and ended up being Gregor's partner; he helped renovating NoLimits; he helped Olli, after he fired him from NL; he supported him when he wanted to make NL a hip place, despite the whole Rob situation; he helped Olli and his mother making up; he accepted fostering Lily, even though he didn't feel comfortable with it.
@bel7003 Good memory. And extremely accurate, too. Our friend @superxx57 seems to have selective amnesia. It seems to be a common ailment among moderate and diehard Olli-ites.
@daiselladarling and @bel7003 LOL! You're right. I think I may have jumped the gun a bit with that last comment. I'll admit that I've been a bit unfair towards Christian. However, everything else I said about him not knowing what he wants is still accurate.
@superxx57 You mean sexually, of course. Once the Lilly ordeal was ended and both guys were able to talk above the anguish of having lost her, Christian made it clear he wanted to concentrate on his relationship with Olli. Just the two of them. That seems to be pretty direct. Whether female shtupping would have occurred eventually even if Olli had heeded his wish is anyone's guess. That's another story line for another gay couple. Christian was unequivocally clear. He just wanted Olli.
@superxx57 Sorry, a bit confused. Are you suggesting that Olli would have dumped Christian ages ago if he had been more interested in his professional career than his personal relationship. Olli's not limited in his ability to multi-task. He handled a burgeoning business and a personal relationship. In making choices, during those dark "Rob" months, however, his judgment tended to be blinkered and, as a result, his choices were often unwise and self-destructive. His relationship suffered.
@daiselladarling Your exact words were, "[Olli] wanted his 15 minutes of celebrity at nearly any cost and that says something about his character."
If that were the case, why would he stay in a relationship with someone who would just slow him down or hold him back? Usually, that's what can cause a relationship to destruct. So what I was saying is that if Olli truely felt that way, there would've been no reason to keep Christian around. Also, Christian made poor choices as well due to jealousy.
@superxx57 The "at nearly any cost" is the crucial phrase. I'm not saying Olli didn't want his relationship with Christian. He wanted both, his career and Christian, as he does with everything--a second foster child and Christian. He refuses or is unable to be happy with himself and his relationship. He always needs something upping the ante. And he's oblivious or unconcerned that his relationship invariably bears the brunt of this greed. Christian was a security blanket during the Rob phase.
@superxx57 I disagree Olli was clearly attracted to Rob it was obvious. Olli said that Rob gave him attention and believed in his dream of owning a successful hot night club. Olli was upset that Christian did not share his vision. Although Olli did not sleep with Rob he clearly had an emotional affair and a sexual attraction to him. So Olli is no saint. Remember, Christian had to basically call Olli out for not admitting that Rob wanted to sleep with him. Olli seems very impulsive.
@JordanjamesX Spot on comment. Poor Olli, trying to be a regular guy with nasty little urges and foibles, and his diehards insist on putting him on a pedestal and ignoring his little indiscretions. We're obviously watching the same Olli. You have to wonder how much time it takes each morning for him to polish up that halo so he's always the "do-right-all-night" man.
@superxx57 I respect your point of view, but Olli was the one that proposed to Christian, why would you want to marry somebody that you don't know what he wants or that you believe wants something different than you?, Didn't they knew each other well enough to know better?
It wasn't like "lets get married, we'll get to know each other latter" How can Olli be conflicted that Christian wanted something different than him? Didn't he care to ask before getting married?
@vjbandido Good question. Christian made it clear just before Jessicapade. He was unequivocal: the marriage needed to be about the two of them, spending time together and getting to know each other. Olli initially agreed and then pulled a fast one behind Christian's back. And then the proverbial hit the fan. Olli was dying for another foster child and, in fact, caused a fracture in their relationship because of it. Haven't heard a peep about foster parenting since Jessicapde. Fickle?
@superxx57 Christian is younger than Oliver he doesn't want the whole family with a ball and chain. I also think Christian resented Oliver for trying to control him and the relationship. Oliver is very impulsive he never allowed Christian to make the big decisions such as getting married in a big ceremony and adopting Lilly. After Lilly was taken away by her bio dad Oliver once again went against Christian wishes. Oliver needs to stop acting so immature and respect Christian as an equal.
Ticklish Andi, Theresa's heart broken, Charlie going histeric and the first hint of love between Chris and Olli in like forever.
The only thing that could make this better would be Helena doing the tickling, Theresa being hit by a train and Jessica... well... standing behind Theresa.
And with Christian and Olli together. Shirtless. With shirtless Andi and Constantin next to them.
Jessica continues showing that she's out for herself and no one else. Lying, pitting Olli and Christian against one another. I can't decide whether Oliver is just blind, stupid, naive or all of the above. He's still searching for himself with the life of a super model. Above all he's living and working with the woman who is responsible for the entire "break" between him and his man! This whole storyoine is going nowhere. It's become quite laughable!
@Glee4evaarr At first i thought the same, but when you think about it, Olli only cares for other things first instead of caring for Christian and he proved me right when Jessica told Olli that Christian was planing his life, Olli didn't care if Christian had a new girlfriend but as soon as he realized that Christian may sell his half of the property then he reacted, for me that's being materialistic
What's with Olli's continuing PMS? Would someone please give him a giant Midol. He's been kvetching for three months now. He's just itching to be ticked off by Christian and sees evidence of being "dissed" where none exists. We all know the reason for his hyper-vigilance but that's long lost its relevance to his current behavior. He's overly sensitive and priggish now. His whole life has become a giant vendetta against Christian. How rewarding can that possibly be even for a masochist?
no fue porque olli lo quisiera controlar, se noto su dolor por el DIVORCIO , que se ve que ambos se lo toman como algo terrible, porque no quiere, porque aun tienen en el fondo una esperanza, eso se ve claramente en el minuto 05:09 la cara que pone olli, de terror a que eso pase y como christian le dice que el no tiene intención de divorciarse eso es claro que lo ama ! y que no pierde la ilusión de que vuelvan!
como pueden pedir el divorcio si hoy quedo mas que claro que los dos se siguen amando, cuando se ven los dos sus rostros se transforma y se ve la tristeza que sienten por no estar juntos, la forma en que christian no podía dejar de mirar a jessica cuando ella menciono que olli había tenido un accidente, es claramente síntoma de que estaba preocupado y clamaba saber mas, pero no se atrevía a preguntar, o como olli reacciona cuando se entera de que christian podía empezar algo con T....
I'm so confused about Christian's character :/, today he was so sexy all mature and down to earth, but I can't not remember all the cheating and evil remakrs :S... And I think he sometimes goes too far with his rational thinking and that causes fights with Olli... It's ok to be mature, but he is just down right depressingly realistic... Olli should actually balance him out, but the just can't seem to find the same language... And oh no, the cheating again, it's a closed circle :(...
this just makes me want 2 see tanja and clarissa clash so much more! on a different note is it just me or do i still see a tiny spark starting to ignite between our lover boys? :)
I think Charlie was SOO incredibly over-dramatic. I just wanted to bitch-slap her. And that's saying something because I ADORE my dear Aunt Charlie. I love her to peices!!! but Not today :(
I have to say, that end part where Christian telling T about little girls dream, makes me see Christian in a different light? that he is really broken... :C
Yay Christian. I saw it all along. He's just trying to get through everything one day at a time. Seeing his husband (ain't divorced yet) go forward and actually forgive the woman who slept with Chris I think has spurred him to do the same thing. Go forward. Standing still won't make anything move. :D
Phew. I was not liking where the Theresa Christian SL was going. So glad they nipped that one in the bud. The whole chroli thing is getting tiring. I feel like a massochist wanting to hold out a little bit of hope, but if feels futile. I want to stop watching all together but I can't, ugh.
@osofante por cierto, por un momento Theresa me dió un poquitín de mal rollo, actuó como si le faltase un tornillo. Y no me quedó muy clara la explicación/ revelación de Christian a Theresa, o sea, por qué le dice eso.
Estuvo muy bien el episodio, muy completito. Me hizo gracia ver a Charlie soltando algunas palabras en español.
En los últimos meses estoy a favor de Olli pero no entiendo su reacción pues si de todas formas la situación es un hecho consumado sin posibilidad de remisión la cuestión material y legal que se discute debería haberse dilucidado hace tiempo. Tampoco entiendo, una vez surgido el tema, la cobardía de Christian a la hora de afrontarlo honestamente con Olli.
Christain now I know why I like you so much, just like Olli said when you two first got togather, you are awesome and bombastic and gorjeous. but watch your back with T. hang in there buddy.
I am really proud of Christian today Olli thinks he can treat Christian like a piece of shit and that's just wrong! Christian is right he has a right to live his life on his own terms. I know some people don't like Theresa but she's got a point Christian has to think about his future. I really think Olli is annoying constantly trying to punish Christian and I am so glad Chris is standing up to his annoying drama queen ex husband. These guys need a divorce ASAP!!!
Christian's BACK! My favorite hero of all time has just swooped down from atop the Empire State building. Rid the world of Evil.....Make small children snug and happy....make it safe.... for Chrolli's return....
did Christian say he will never give Ollie a divorce. Why nis he holding unto him? Did u see the look on Ollies face when he saifd that. Is there hope for Chrolli after all. I no it will never be the same as it was but, these two can make a love story looks as though it was going on 4ever. Fantastic actors with a great storyline. Plz get them back 2gether
Olli and Christian these women or play you both. the two of you need to wake faster for your long sleep. and get back together now. all this is get boring
I don'ty get it why Christian doesn't want to file a divorce? Are they going to live like this forever? Not that I want a divorce, never! But, you know? It's strange they are not thinking about it at all!
fernandarsg 1 week ago
Thanks May :) - its becoming unbearable watching Christian & Olli fight, and seeing Christian with Theresa, and I hated how agressive he was with her too, I don't like the girl but that was out of order - all this talk of dividing property, buying a horse, divorce.....its exausting!!! :( :(
coyleJ 1 month ago
hahahaha, olli looks like sheldon cooper when he turned his head fast
Janeine 1 month ago in playlist 1 Chrolli@Verbotene Liebe - Playlist 1
Am I the only one who thinks Jana's character is hilarious? "Jessica" cracks me up everytime I see her!
mkaythatsthename 2 months ago
chr dung la mot thang khung
nhoccrazy20891 4 months ago
« I actually had no plans to get a divorce. For whatever reason. »
There is still some hope :)
Peanut1984 5 months ago in playlist More videos from MercuryMay01
I hate Jessica (egotistical, selfish, slut). Compare to her, Olivia seems like a saint. Olivia cares for Olli and support him through many rough time. Can't wait till the day when Jessica leave and never come back. Her evil smile at 10:00 make me want to slap her :O
gendoushi 5 months ago
It would great for Olli to meet up with Rafael and take him back to NoLimits. Christian will soon get in Act together then. We can HOPE!!!!!!!!!!
Blackmagic3553 5 months ago
@dabiduriona Well Christian sure looks older then Olli at the moment...as Olli is suppose to be older than Christian on the show. Christian beauty seems to have faded!!!!!!!!!
Blackmagic3553 5 months ago
@Blackmagic3553 Maybe you can see something I can't but in my eyes it didn't fade because beauty like that can never fade, It just stays the same.
rwilbourn1 2 months ago
Excuse me what was their stupid fight about again?! DIVORCE?! EVEN I FORGOT!
heartbroken962 5 months ago
Thanks for including some of the Charlie /Clarissa story line! you never know where it leads and it is all peripheral to the Oli story.
I have to admit that I am hooked!
philipjames33 5 months ago
He has a heart defect, AND he has a husband, ok Teresa? Back off.
pazmerlot 6 months ago 2
ok maybe not exactly the same shade. close enough though.
4skymylove 6 months ago
anyone notice how olli and miriam match? they're both wearing pink shirts in the bar. the very same shade, too!
4skymylove 6 months ago
What the hell is an ensaimada? She try'n to order two salads in Germlish?
bigtop999 6 months ago
@bigtop999 An ensaimada is some sort of pastry, a Majorcan speciality
cdhagen 5 months ago
@cdhagen Oh Catalan...no es Spanish. It's made with "reduced pork lard "..oy vey.
Auntie Charlie can apply them directly to der arse!
bigtop999 5 months ago
OMG MIRIAM, I love you more than words can express! :)
And I, for one, hope that Tanja and Clarissa start WWIII on Mallorca! (Sometimes I'm a terrible person....you get used to it.) ;)
OnMyWaytotheFLA 6 months ago
Jesus Olli storyline @ this point is so much better than Christian's!!!
Put some fire on Christian please...!
Carlos3ac 6 months ago
Who was the girl that Andi was talking at around 3:47?
alecz4eva 6 months ago
@alecz4eva That's Kim Wolf. Dana's and Marlene's sister.
MercuryMay01 6 months ago
Can the reconciliation of Chrolli hurry up already?!! Don't get me wrong, I like the cheap shots and daggers thrown from the eyes, but VL is in an alternate universe right now. Olli is BFFs with Jessica & Christian has been messing around with Theresa. SeriouslStarting to like Jessica, but not so much Theresa.
iluvjensen1 6 months ago
"I have no plans to get a divorce...for whatever reason." 0_0 That...was the sweetest thing i've ever heard out of Christian mouth in a damn LONG time! That almost brought tears to my eyes xD
And finally Christian's heart problem comes into play. Jesus! I thought the writer's totally forgot about that...
And i love how he and what'sherface seem to be growing apart. Good! Great! Now more chances for Chrolli to COME BACK!!!!! Dx
Dreamstrikers 6 months ago
Why was my comment removed? I didn't slander any of the actors, I don't have any hidden knowledge about whether Jo Weil will stay on the show--I'm speculating based on an interview he gave. I'm also observing: I think it's ridiculous that women and gay relationships are only considered viable on tv if women, or the people involved in those gay relationships are under 30. My comment is valid criticism, and you need to restore it. If not you need to give me a clear and specific reason why. Thanks.
WraithCake8 6 months ago
@WraithCake8 You need to be less agressive, and you need to stop posting spoilers. If it wasn't in the middle of the night, I'd send you a PM to let you know what the spoiler was if you realy want to play innocent. Rumors about what might happen in the future are considered a spoiler. Everything that hasn't happened yet is a spoiler. Please keep the comments about the episode you're currently watching. Thanks.
MercuryMay01 6 months ago
Is it so cruel of me that I would like Theresa to die the same way as Olli's cousin? :3
Jose1992H 6 months ago 8
@Jose1992H wut Olivia died?!!!!! WHUT? OMG I thought she was in NY city doing modeling!! OMG
hongyewu 6 months ago
@hongyewu
-.-' uhm.... if you go back to the episode where Olivia is giving the money she stole from Olli to that "manager" that was suppose to make her famous you will see what happens to her
Jose1992H 5 months ago
To see the episode look for part 200 that's where Olivia is last seen.
OMG Olli looked so young and hot in this episode. I just wish he would shave and let his grow back again
Jose1992H 5 months ago
MercuryMay, will you be posting any of the Tanja/Clarissa feud since Olli and Jessica will be part of it? From the sounds of it, it sounds like Tanja/Clarissa will be the equivalent of The Knots Landing feud between Joan collins and Linda Evans characters on there. A good bitchfight is always fun to watch.
Ok, wardrobe may have horrible taste in most of Olli's outfits, but not his pants. Jo fills out all of his pants, regardless of style, nicely! "Stares at his ass non-stop"
ShawnActor 6 months ago
@ShawnActor Tanja and Clarissa will only be part of my uploads if they interact with either Christian or Olli. I'm not sure if maybe someone else on YT is uploading their scenes.
MercuryMay01 6 months ago
@MercuryMay01
Ok, thanks, May. that's all I needed to know. I sure wish the site would put subtitles to their videos for US fans to watch, because I'm interested enough to watch the whole show.
I'll have to look around and see if any other VL uploaders are posting full episodes. Although I doubt it.
ShawnActor 6 months ago
@ShawnActor I know what you mean, but why would VL provide subs? It's a German show produced for the German audience. It's not like shows in the US (or any other country) provide subs in German, Spanish, French etc. And VL is pretty nice about heaving clips of certain storylines up on YT; I doubt they'd be thrilled if someone made the whole show available on YT, though. That would be taking it a little too far. People can watch the whole show at their own DasErste Mediathek (without subs).
MercuryMay01 6 months ago 3
@daiselladarling - just one question ..are you not already tired ?;)
MegaEmma67 6 months ago
Thank you May. You just keep doing it!
shak15ti 6 months ago
May ..this is @ daiselladarling channel ??
krasla1 6 months ago
OMG - there are still comments abot Rob-SL ???
btw ...it would be nice to read comments from some other users than just from you two , three ;))
krasla1 6 months ago
Christian: I actually have no plans to get a divorce. ...for whatever reasons
best line given for christian in a while..
kisha86 6 months ago
I wish they would hurry up and bring in a new guy for Olli. Everything I've seen leads me to believe they writers are not going to address the core issues that caused the breakup, so I'd rather Chrolli not get back together.
luckyduck152 6 months ago
@daiselladarling "@WraithCake8 No poo pooing here. Simply letting @PKZ8 in on a secret. Many of us, despite our being engaged by Chrolli and the community of viewers that has grown around it, realize that we're spitting in the wind. Who among us really thinks the producers and writers at VL give a gnat's ass what we want." Well, you're right. *sigh* :(
WraithCake8 6 months ago
Oh everybody stop poo pooing @PKZ8. Unfortunately, I think PK is speaking the truth. It is a daytime soap, and VL, like any program, will consider its domestic local audience first. That's where the money is. Besides, PK's opinion never has to bear on what programs you like to watch. We can like to watch whatever we want--right? So, PKZ8 don't stop posting, I love reading what other people think.
WraithCake8 6 months ago
@WraithCake8 No poo pooing here. Simply letting @PKZ8 in on a secret. Many of us, despite our being engaged by Chrolli and the community of viewers that has grown around it, realize that we're spitting in the wind. Who among us really thinks the producers and writers at VL give a gnat's ass what we want.
daiselladarling 6 months ago
A CERVICAL COLLAR LOL Best Translation ever. It's Christian who needs a cervical collar to keep him away from lady part not Olli.. Thanks May for a great laugh and to VL for a great episode CHROLLI forever <3
ukshewolf 6 months ago
why are people tumbs-downing the video? ye the story is like painful, but the video is great, dont hate on the messenger guys
monixxx 6 months ago
Has anyone else noticed that when Olli's behind the counter he's always cleaning something that's already spotless?
candylover233able 6 months ago
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candylover233able 6 months ago
I think Jessica needs an accident with a taxi!
MrAudienceMember 6 months ago
YAY!!! Olli cn meet up with Rafael!!! However whn Christian sd he got no plans for divorce or wt so ever.... My heart jus melted.....
changezthezworldz 6 months ago
Jessica only told Olli what she heard them discussing, so she did tell the truth, she never heard that Christian had changed his mind. Does anyone think it strange how close Olli and Jessica seem to be getting.
mycountryboyswag 6 months ago
@daiselladarling "Now it's about as wondrous as a turd in a punchbowl." HA HA HA HA HA HA....heh, heh, heh! Yes, it has been about as wondrous as a turd in a punchbowl--Wherez my DRINK?!
WraithCake8 6 months ago
@WraithCake8 Coming right up...With or without the floater?
daiselladarling 6 months ago
@RoJohnDoe Because the international fans voted for them over end over.
shenadoa 6 months ago
it's almost as if they'll never reconcile :(
popbuff 6 months ago
Christian's behavior toward women is somehow strange ..for my taste to much violence was in the scene with Theresa ... this scene reminded me of that terrible outburst of rage Christian had in the hospital, when he blamed Olli that he almost killed Lilly:(( I don't like it
krasla1 6 months ago
@krasla1 it reminded me of when Olli pushed Jessica so hard she got a bruise :(
hannicaid 6 months ago
@RoJohnDoe
bc the international fans of Chrolli have voted in this voting :)
PKZ8 6 months ago
Okay, I get the whole Christian and Olli are separated thing. Christian says he doesn't want a divorce, but does he really think it's okay to date while he's married?
jpantis 6 months ago
i can hear nothing but 'NO DIVORCE'!!!!!! YEAH!!!!!
hongyewu 6 months ago 23
@hongyewu I know xD That part excited me too!!! As soon as Christian delivered that line, my mouth just dropped and then i was like, "Shit...if i'm about to cry over THIS, then i'm gonna be a mess when the reconciliation happens." (which i will be anyway, but...) lol
Dreamstrikers 6 months ago
Jessica was so typical Jessica use half-truths to get Olli to the point that he makes what she wants only for her benefit
lol at Andi and Kim
phb85 6 months ago
interesting episode
while Theresa sees her chances fade away she now tries to get Christian back on her side, Christians reaction at the end was kind of harsh, but it was good to see that he put her in her place and rebuffs her plans of a own stud farm
and you could see that her words about boxing,... and then the confrontation with Olli make him think about his life now, and he seem not happy with what he had now, his life is only a mess at the moment
thanks May
phb85 6 months ago 4
@phb85 I don't think Theresa is the best girlfriend for Christian but I will say she is getting him to think more about what HE wants out of life. Christian likes working with horses but can he honestly want to do the same thing at age 40? He's a young man that had big dreams becoming a boxer. I think Christian will open his own business. Olli owns No Limits but it seemed to me he never treated Christian as an equal in their relationship. Christian wants to live his own life on his own terms.
JordanjamesX 6 months ago
Boy both Jessica and Theresa are a royal pain in the arse. I hear that, I was wondering when Christian was going to wake up and smell the coffee, I hope the writers keep on making Christian "see the light" and the same goes for Olli too. Kick both women to the curb.
menRmemorable 6 months ago
I cannot wait to see the clash of the titans... It promises to be the most anti-climatic episode VL has ever come up with, going on present writing skills!!!
Are we now seeing Christians POV of the story? Up to now we've only seen Ollis pain and suffering.
This is getting better - not good yet but better.
Avidbel2 6 months ago
Seems to me Christian wants to have his cake and eat it too.
On the one hand he says he doesn't want a divorce yet his behaviour shows the opposite.
His still sleeping with Theresa, he makes snide comments about Olli's modeling and now he tells Olli to stay out his business.
He can't have it both ways, he's got to make up his mind what he really wants, at this point he sending out mixed signals.
No wonder Olli is still confused about Christian's sexuality, I would be as well.
bellabana 6 months ago 2
I was so sure I would be among at least the first top 20 viewers. I am always beaten to the punch. That asside, I have regained hope. Christian and Olli still love each other. That said, Olli still needs a Raphael to prompt his spouse further. That said, I do not condone infidelity of any sort,lol.
ahnobi 6 months ago
it's interesting how many people on YT have still the need and desire to discuss Chrolli. In Germany almost nobody cares about this couple .
your views can't affect anything and it's irrelevant how many people on YT hate Olli , or hate Christian . the VL-writers don't care about German viewers , let alone about international fans of Chrolli , bc this couple is absolutely unimportant to the ratings :/ so calm down people , your discussions and pro-Olli / pro- Christian fights are pointless ;)
PKZ8 6 months ago
@PKZ8 As if Germany sets the bar! Some of us are aware of our irrelevance. We figured this out many moons ago when, despite their international popularity, Chrolli was being gutted by the writers in the new story line. Who cares, except you apparently, if the car is running in neutral and not going anywhere. The marvel of the combustion engine can occupy one's attention for quite some time and, besides, the hum can be quite interesting and soothing to listen to.
daiselladarling 6 months ago
@daiselladarling - Well said. We understand the irrelevance of the international fans. But it does not stop us from venting our anger/pleasure/thoughts about this couple. Shame that the Germans are so blind to what they have created, if PKZ8 is anything to go by...
Avidbel2 6 months ago
@Avidbel2 It's disturbing to think that so many international viewers are so unlike so many Germans in our tastes. What an odd lot we or they are.
daiselladarling 6 months ago
@PKZ8 it was so nice of you to join yt TODAY to tell us how unimportant we as international viewers are. Whether are not we are pro-Olli, pro-Christian or pro Chrolli we all have the same purpose and that's to enjoy and discuss what Germany gives us in this storyline and what MM so graciously translates for us and for that we are very thankful
hannicaid 6 months ago
@PKZ8 You are right that us international fans don't have the same importance as German fans. However, why did Thore and Jo visit Canada and the United States a few years ago? VL isn't even available on North American television. The VL producers must of given the okay for the guys to visit North America and conduct press over here for a reason. So although us international fans don't have any bearing on the ratings the VL writers KNOW we exist and they KNOW we love Chrolli!
JordanjamesX 6 months ago
what is the Germans and Majoca?
May, i tu perquè parles català?
^^
Salutacions i abraçades des de Xile!
hawkhunter2487 6 months ago
Olli may get to see Rafael again::)) Sorry Christian, but, You Jumped the Fence. You Play you Pay!!
Mr1958louief 6 months ago
Thank you MM !
it's interesting how two women are destroying life of Chrolli. Jessica manipulates Olli and Theresa manipulates Chris :(I hope he's not so stupid and he won't finance her dreams , it would be a disaster:( I hope Christian will finally wake up of his horrible Arrogance -Dream. He was not bad in this ep.,but it doesn't make me forget all his cheating and horrible behavior lately.I hope the old Christian will come back ASAP btw. Olli's scenes were so funny ..great acting by Jo :))
MegaEmma67 6 months ago
Jessica's character is simply too flat--too self interested, too, too, tootoo something uninteresting to watch. The actress herself seems lovely. But it does take a little bit of personal depth to bring a character to life--despite the writing. Olivia was able to do this--though she was a little older. In all her lack of conscience--which was a vaporous mist at the best of times--she was so damn funny, and very perceptive. The actress was able to pull this off with her body language--
WraithCake8 6 months ago
Christian and Olli need to have their own show. And it needs to be a comedy. Ya! It would be like a gay version of "Mad About You". Everyone else's life would spin in dramatic situations around them--but they would be a unit. Or...or, barring that, Gregor and Luisa would die in some horribly tragic, horribly dramatic accident and Christian would have custody of their kids. Viola--single dad, though not really BECAUSE Oliver would feel obligated to take care of them too: Poof instant family!
WraithCake8 6 months ago
Enough said. the fans want Chroilli back together! Get to it VL writters..we want a good hard ........maybe a lil nude wrestling here and there to fulfill our gluttonous appetite!
locopoco24 6 months ago
@locopoco24 lol xD You said it!!!
Dreamstrikers 6 months ago
THIS IS A DUMB SOAP--why oh WHY did I ever get hooked on a soap?? Wait! I remember: It was a very STRAIGHT (very macho) guy, inexplicably falling in lust with his cute as a button flat mate--then...then OMG falling in love with him.What a deliriously delicious story--AND Christian was happy, happier then he'd ever been. I don't remember how many times he'd said that. Now from that to this: a stale, milkless bowl of freeze dried flakes. I don't give a shit about these stupid peoples lives.
WraithCake8 6 months ago
@WraithCake8 What was so special about Chrolli was the improbability of it all: a "straight" hunk of delicious eye-candy falling for an adorably brooding flat mate after being possessed by a single kiss. It was the "Sleeping Beauty", the "Snow White" kiss that awakens the Adored from her (his) dreamless, unfulfilled life and brings meaning and purpose (love) to her (his) existence. It was magical because it was improbable yet predestined. Now it's about as wondrous as a turd in a punchbowl.
daiselladarling 6 months ago
Ahhhhh nooooooo what happens next?!??!
flipboidex 6 months ago
About time christian had some sense and dealt with t..I actually liked him in this eposide, and olli he was funny you can definalty see that christian and olli still love each other thank you May..
KillerWhaleResearch 6 months ago 4
Olivia should be alive and kick out that whore
cactusmilo918 6 months ago 3
@TeamTooMany, I think Christian still wants to try to reconcile, but Olli won't have anything of it. I think Christian would drop anything else, if Olli would simply stop being so "tétu". (Stubborn as a mule)
DanStJH 6 months ago 2
I don't understand why Olli is still nice to Jessica. I mean, yes there is a such thing as being a 'nice guy' but this is just too much. Every time he looks up she is tricking him into something & trying to ruin his relationships & basically, his life (flooding his apt, etc.). When is enough going to be enough?
miraam2012 6 months ago 3
Olli needs to move first...Christian tried to reconcile and Olli would have nothing of it. Sad. Their relationship has helped me in my hetero marriage!
DanStJH 6 months ago
@DanStJH I agree
shenadoa 6 months ago
This goes out to all true Crolli fans: You know thinking about cheating/ bi moments... Didn't Olli kiss Coco when she was still with Christian, before Olli even liked him? Olli then proceded to tell Coco that he was bi. So this whole, "Oh you like women now, so you can't like men!" nonsense is just that; a load of bs. They both made huge mistakes before their break up, I could do a reverse time line if I wanted. Now, they need to recongnize their feels and try to start reconnecting.
jdunn5stmu 6 months ago
im still wondering when are they getting a divorce.. its obvious Christian is straight.. i mean bi is understandable but olli is the only guy he would be forever and he can get as many girls as he wants.. the balance is off to be "bi" so theres no point anyways
klinton123 6 months ago
@klinton123 I think that Christian is with a woman so that he wont have to feel what he feels with Olli. He doesnt even like Teresa. She is just a distraction. Women are easier for him because he is used to that before Olli. He never chased any men.
Tblackfacebook 6 months ago 3
if christian has trying to show that he still loves Olli, very obvious hint.. then imma watch this.. hahah.. I don't really like to watch fighting/arguing/sad scene between christian and olli. though i know this is part of life and I have just went through it.. but I dislike.
FlackBenjamin 6 months ago
"For whatever reasons." Did Christian mean he wouldn't give Ollie a divorce no matter what the reasons? Or did he mean it more sarcastically as in he didn't understand the reasons why they were still holding on?
TeamTooMany 6 months ago
@TeamTooMany Clearly, the latter.
superxx57 6 months ago
I used to read hate comments about Christian, and now people are writing hate comment about Olli and wanting Christian to divorce him already. People, that's sad. I hope no words related to divorce ever come near to any of their discussions. I've regained hope! Hopefully Chrolli will get back together soon<3
ellen03100 6 months ago 7
I wish all these people who want them to get a divorce or be permanently separated would jus go and find a different show or couple to watch >:(
SixSixxty6 6 months ago 10
@SixSixxty6 There are some people who like to watch Christian and Oliver as a couple, and there are some people who like to watch them as two seperate entities. Speaking for myself, it's their individual characters that intrigue me, so I can be entertained by watching them whether their together or not. As of right now, both Christian and Oliver want two different things in life (what Christian wants, we may never know). Maybe once both characters grow as individuals, they can get back together.
superxx57 6 months ago 25
@superxx57 Okay, I'll admit that knowing what Christian wants sometimes it's difficult to figure out, but according to you, what do you think Olli want's?
vjbandido 6 months ago
@vjbandido I think what Olli originally wanted was the "American dream"--a successful business, a faithful spouse, and children...He wanted a stable, fufilling life. Unfortunately, Christian squashed that dream in more ways than one. Now since Oliver has clearly lost apart of himself after losing Christian, he wants to find himself again as a 33-year-old single man. This may explain why some people prefer that Oliver doesn't get back with Christian at the moment, among other reasons...
superxx57 6 months ago
@superxx57 Which part of the dream is American? The successful business, the faithful spouse, or the children. Or is it "American" to want the three as a package deal? I have a feeling that most people want at least one, if not two, of the three components. Indeed, Christian wanted the first two. What he didn't want, at least for the immediate future, was the children component. The infidelity quashed only one aspect of the dream: the faithful spouse component. Business is still good.
daiselladarling 6 months ago
@daiselladarling According to the American mainstream society, the "American dream" is to have all three as a package deal as you put it. As for Christian, you're wrong about one thing: Christian did want children. Don't you recall when he told Andi verbatim that he has always wanted a wife and kids? It's when Christian gets a husband that he decides that he doesn't want children anymore. Interesting. I guess having the wife and kids was seen only as a package deal for Christian.
superxx57 6 months ago
@superxx57 You're right. When reflecting on his life before Olli, Christian did state that he had wanted a wife and kids. That seems, however, to have been part of the ideal heterosexual life he had presumed he would live simply because he was presumably straight. It was rather the preordained existence that almost everyone is inculcated with by virtue of having a set of heterosexual (or even homosexual, in some states) parents. Breaking that cycle requires a conscious decision or fate.
daiselladarling 6 months ago
@superxx57 It's odd because I think Olli is really a heap of contradictions. He said he wanted a stable relationship with children included yet he complained about Christian's homebody tendencies and his disinterest in going out partying. He frittered countless nights away with Rob, hitting the hot nightspots while Christian remained at home. Olli's interest in things is intense but relatively short-lived. He was once white hot about foster parenting now he's not. Now it's modeling.
daiselladarling 6 months ago
@daiselladarling I disagree. Be a partier is not equivilent to being in an unstable relationship. Everything else you said proves my original point. The only reason Oliver spent nights hitting the hot nightspots with Rob is because he wanted his business to thrive, nothing more or less. When Olli got married, he wanted to have a family, which is normal. I don't think Olli ever stopped wanting that, but he can't find a gay man who wants the same thing, so he's trying to find himself by modeling.
superxx57 6 months ago 3
@superxx57 Now there's a first: trying to find oneself and the meaning to one's life by modeling. Who knew that wearing designer clothes and having makeup artists and hair stylists fuss over you was the surest route to self-discovery. Being a partygoer at 33 years of age says something about Olli's character--if only that he's having a hard time accepting that he's no longer in his 20s. Getting married and wanting a family is not necessarily "normal"--not even for heterosexual couples!
daiselladarling 6 months ago
@daiselladarling Though it may not be necessary, it's definitely considered normal. Otherwise, gays wouldn't be fighting so hard for gay marriage and recognition of legal adoption bewteen gay couples. However, I will acknowledge that the word "normal" has many different connotations depending on the individual, so I'll associate the word "normal" with the word "common" to eliminate confusion.
superxx57 6 months ago
@superxx57 IMO, Gays are fighting for these rights no so much because they wish to run out immediately and exercise them, but because they wish to know that, one day, any day, should they choose to marry or to adopt a child, they may do so with no additional hassle or paperwork than is required of anyone else. It's the very nature of civil rights. You may not wish to avail yourself of the rights afforded you but it's essential that they exist to ensure your ability to do so if you choose.
daiselladarling 6 months ago
@superxx57 In partying with Rob, however, he put his relationship in second place as was evident in the deference he showed him and failed to show Christian. And you're right--as I suggested many months ago--Olli went through a period in which his relationship with Christian suffered because he was overzealous for success. But Olli didn't want just monetary success he also wanted his 15 minutes of celebrity at nearly any cost and that says something about his character also.
daiselladarling 6 months ago
@daiselladarling If that were the case, Oliver would've dumped Christian a long time ago. Olli has always been in Christian's corner, supporting him in anything he did. I don't recall one instance where Christian supported Olli...or Nico, or Coco. If it's not about him, he thinks it's silly.
I'm noticing that we're getting a bit off-topic. Having said that, both guys have some growing up to do, which is why I think it would do more harm than good if they were to get back together at this point.
superxx57 6 months ago 3
@superxx57 I, on the contrary, can recall a lot of times Christian supported Olli: the beating; the aneurism situation; he encouraged Olli when he wanted to have his own business and ended up being Gregor's partner; he helped renovating NoLimits; he helped Olli, after he fired him from NL; he supported him when he wanted to make NL a hip place, despite the whole Rob situation; he helped Olli and his mother making up; he accepted fostering Lily, even though he didn't feel comfortable with it.
bel7003 6 months ago 24
@bel7003 Good memory. And extremely accurate, too. Our friend @superxx57 seems to have selective amnesia. It seems to be a common ailment among moderate and diehard Olli-ites.
daiselladarling 6 months ago
@daiselladarling and @bel7003 LOL! You're right. I think I may have jumped the gun a bit with that last comment. I'll admit that I've been a bit unfair towards Christian. However, everything else I said about him not knowing what he wants is still accurate.
superxx57 6 months ago
@superxx57 You mean sexually, of course. Once the Lilly ordeal was ended and both guys were able to talk above the anguish of having lost her, Christian made it clear he wanted to concentrate on his relationship with Olli. Just the two of them. That seems to be pretty direct. Whether female shtupping would have occurred eventually even if Olli had heeded his wish is anyone's guess. That's another story line for another gay couple. Christian was unequivocally clear. He just wanted Olli.
daiselladarling 6 months ago
@bel7003 well said!!! if i could give u 100 thumbs up, i would!
elphau 5 months ago
@superxx57 Sorry, a bit confused. Are you suggesting that Olli would have dumped Christian ages ago if he had been more interested in his professional career than his personal relationship. Olli's not limited in his ability to multi-task. He handled a burgeoning business and a personal relationship. In making choices, during those dark "Rob" months, however, his judgment tended to be blinkered and, as a result, his choices were often unwise and self-destructive. His relationship suffered.
daiselladarling 6 months ago
@daiselladarling Your exact words were, "[Olli] wanted his 15 minutes of celebrity at nearly any cost and that says something about his character."
If that were the case, why would he stay in a relationship with someone who would just slow him down or hold him back? Usually, that's what can cause a relationship to destruct. So what I was saying is that if Olli truely felt that way, there would've been no reason to keep Christian around. Also, Christian made poor choices as well due to jealousy.
superxx57 6 months ago
@superxx57 The "at nearly any cost" is the crucial phrase. I'm not saying Olli didn't want his relationship with Christian. He wanted both, his career and Christian, as he does with everything--a second foster child and Christian. He refuses or is unable to be happy with himself and his relationship. He always needs something upping the ante. And he's oblivious or unconcerned that his relationship invariably bears the brunt of this greed. Christian was a security blanket during the Rob phase.
daiselladarling 6 months ago
@superxx57 I disagree Olli was clearly attracted to Rob it was obvious. Olli said that Rob gave him attention and believed in his dream of owning a successful hot night club. Olli was upset that Christian did not share his vision. Although Olli did not sleep with Rob he clearly had an emotional affair and a sexual attraction to him. So Olli is no saint. Remember, Christian had to basically call Olli out for not admitting that Rob wanted to sleep with him. Olli seems very impulsive.
JordanjamesX 6 months ago
@JordanjamesX Spot on comment. Poor Olli, trying to be a regular guy with nasty little urges and foibles, and his diehards insist on putting him on a pedestal and ignoring his little indiscretions. We're obviously watching the same Olli. You have to wonder how much time it takes each morning for him to polish up that halo so he's always the "do-right-all-night" man.
daiselladarling 6 months ago
@superxx57 I respect your point of view, but Olli was the one that proposed to Christian, why would you want to marry somebody that you don't know what he wants or that you believe wants something different than you?, Didn't they knew each other well enough to know better?
It wasn't like "lets get married, we'll get to know each other latter" How can Olli be conflicted that Christian wanted something different than him? Didn't he care to ask before getting married?
vjbandido 6 months ago
@vjbandido Good question. Christian made it clear just before Jessicapade. He was unequivocal: the marriage needed to be about the two of them, spending time together and getting to know each other. Olli initially agreed and then pulled a fast one behind Christian's back. And then the proverbial hit the fan. Olli was dying for another foster child and, in fact, caused a fracture in their relationship because of it. Haven't heard a peep about foster parenting since Jessicapde. Fickle?
daiselladarling 6 months ago
@superxx57 Christian is younger than Oliver he doesn't want the whole family with a ball and chain. I also think Christian resented Oliver for trying to control him and the relationship. Oliver is very impulsive he never allowed Christian to make the big decisions such as getting married in a big ceremony and adopting Lilly. After Lilly was taken away by her bio dad Oliver once again went against Christian wishes. Oliver needs to stop acting so immature and respect Christian as an equal.
JordanjamesX 6 months ago
Ticklish Andi, Theresa's heart broken, Charlie going histeric and the first hint of love between Chris and Olli in like forever.
The only thing that could make this better would be Helena doing the tickling, Theresa being hit by a train and Jessica... well... standing behind Theresa.
And with Christian and Olli together. Shirtless. With shirtless Andi and Constantin next to them.
I know, dreams come for free.
valnyra 6 months ago 5
@valnyra Can we also have Gregor back so he can join the shirtless hot men party??!! LOL
Glee4evaarr 6 months ago 2
@valnyra I am totally with you on that dream
vjbandido 6 months ago
Jessica continues showing that she's out for herself and no one else. Lying, pitting Olli and Christian against one another. I can't decide whether Oliver is just blind, stupid, naive or all of the above. He's still searching for himself with the life of a super model. Above all he's living and working with the woman who is responsible for the entire "break" between him and his man! This whole storyoine is going nowhere. It's become quite laughable!
sloughery 6 months ago 2
C: "I actually have no plans to get a divorce. ...for whatever reasons...."
Olli's expression is like " OMG!! he stills love me!! "
Christian turns back and gives Olli a killer look that means "Yes you idiot, I'm still in love with you!!"
Thanks MercuryMay for the upload, u r the best!!
Glee4evaarr 6 months ago 54
@Glee4evaarr At first i thought the same, but when you think about it, Olli only cares for other things first instead of caring for Christian and he proved me right when Jessica told Olli that Christian was planing his life, Olli didn't care if Christian had a new girlfriend but as soon as he realized that Christian may sell his half of the property then he reacted, for me that's being materialistic
vjbandido 6 months ago
@Glee4evaarr OMG i love ur comment :) just hope they'll be back soon. it's not the same to see they separated!!!!
muiten 6 months ago
Christian should just ride into the sunset with Theresa, he is no good for Olli or even himself
malgacho 6 months ago
Olli and Rafael becoming involved in a relationship would be awesome.Jessica whines alot andTheresa is annoying.British soaps are the best.
jspccz 6 months ago
I love the eye roll at 4:07
panto880 6 months ago
This episode clarifies 3 things;
1 Theresa and Christian are going to have big troubles with that stupid business idea. An idea coming from an ambitious donkey.
2 Christian, always the naive and the impulsive one, wants to prove to Olli he can go on with his life with such big plans
3 Christian loves Olli (for whatever reason...) and cannot stand Theresa.
Result: CHROLLI! (although after a new roller coaster ride).
claudiosgaravizzi 6 months ago 8
What's with Olli's continuing PMS? Would someone please give him a giant Midol. He's been kvetching for three months now. He's just itching to be ticked off by Christian and sees evidence of being "dissed" where none exists. We all know the reason for his hyper-vigilance but that's long lost its relevance to his current behavior. He's overly sensitive and priggish now. His whole life has become a giant vendetta against Christian. How rewarding can that possibly be even for a masochist?
daiselladarling 6 months ago
no fue porque olli lo quisiera controlar, se noto su dolor por el DIVORCIO , que se ve que ambos se lo toman como algo terrible, porque no quiere, porque aun tienen en el fondo una esperanza, eso se ve claramente en el minuto 05:09 la cara que pone olli, de terror a que eso pase y como christian le dice que el no tiene intención de divorciarse eso es claro que lo ama ! y que no pierde la ilusión de que vuelvan!
chailowin 6 months ago 2
como pueden pedir el divorcio si hoy quedo mas que claro que los dos se siguen amando, cuando se ven los dos sus rostros se transforma y se ve la tristeza que sienten por no estar juntos, la forma en que christian no podía dejar de mirar a jessica cuando ella menciono que olli había tenido un accidente, es claramente síntoma de que estaba preocupado y clamaba saber mas, pero no se atrevía a preguntar, o como olli reacciona cuando se entera de que christian podía empezar algo con T....
chailowin 6 months ago 2
I'm so confused about Christian's character :/, today he was so sexy all mature and down to earth, but I can't not remember all the cheating and evil remakrs :S... And I think he sometimes goes too far with his rational thinking and that causes fights with Olli... It's ok to be mature, but he is just down right depressingly realistic... Olli should actually balance him out, but the just can't seem to find the same language... And oh no, the cheating again, it's a closed circle :(...
Helios89Zg 6 months ago
I'm actually starting to like Jessica. What's wrong with me???
tiger5480 6 months ago
@tiger5480 She's so funny.
panto880 6 months ago
this just makes me want 2 see tanja and clarissa clash so much more! on a different note is it just me or do i still see a tiny spark starting to ignite between our lover boys? :)
crazytrini14 6 months ago 2
I think Charlie was SOO incredibly over-dramatic. I just wanted to bitch-slap her. And that's saying something because I ADORE my dear Aunt Charlie. I love her to peices!!! but Not today :(
tgcme1 6 months ago
I have to say, that end part where Christian telling T about little girls dream, makes me see Christian in a different light? that he is really broken... :C
greymushroom1 6 months ago
Yay Christian. I saw it all along. He's just trying to get through everything one day at a time. Seeing his husband (ain't divorced yet) go forward and actually forgive the woman who slept with Chris I think has spurred him to do the same thing. Go forward. Standing still won't make anything move. :D
vi867 6 months ago
Thanks MMai for your hard work that enables us to live that wonderful Love Story. may God bless you and your family.
sja2608 6 months ago
Phew. I was not liking where the Theresa Christian SL was going. So glad they nipped that one in the bud. The whole chroli thing is getting tiring. I feel like a massochist wanting to hold out a little bit of hope, but if feels futile. I want to stop watching all together but I can't, ugh.
ggspeech 6 months ago
Thank you MMay for the upload you're doll and an Angel. Olli was funny today I enjoyed the espiode.
dalphine45 6 months ago 4
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osofante 6 months ago
@osofante por cierto, por un momento Theresa me dió un poquitín de mal rollo, actuó como si le faltase un tornillo. Y no me quedó muy clara la explicación/ revelación de Christian a Theresa, o sea, por qué le dice eso.
osofante 6 months ago
thanks so so so much!
Estuvo muy bien el episodio, muy completito. Me hizo gracia ver a Charlie soltando algunas palabras en español.
En los últimos meses estoy a favor de Olli pero no entiendo su reacción pues si de todas formas la situación es un hecho consumado sin posibilidad de remisión la cuestión material y legal que se discute debería haberse dilucidado hace tiempo. Tampoco entiendo, una vez surgido el tema, la cobardía de Christian a la hora de afrontarlo honestamente con Olli.
osofante 6 months ago
Thank you May!! I thought I saw a little spark here
t33773 6 months ago
Yes! My hope has been somewhat restored today. Thanks for the quick upload May. You're the best.
PinaColada4645 6 months ago
Which episode number is this :)
joxy922 6 months ago
I think you have misunderstood what Christian wants to do
olli by despair and went to reclaim
olli at the end you will notice that you christian
still love and whether they are just on pause
I think it's best that history no longer had to give more and now with this drama and can start again without the mistakes of the past
rigo984 6 months ago
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rigo984 6 months ago
Christain now I know why I like you so much, just like Olli said when you two first got togather, you are awesome and bombastic and gorjeous. but watch your back with T. hang in there buddy.
tigger19771 6 months ago
Shukran may.
gdtopification 6 months ago
I am really proud of Christian today Olli thinks he can treat Christian like a piece of shit and that's just wrong! Christian is right he has a right to live his life on his own terms. I know some people don't like Theresa but she's got a point Christian has to think about his future. I really think Olli is annoying constantly trying to punish Christian and I am so glad Chris is standing up to his annoying drama queen ex husband. These guys need a divorce ASAP!!!
JordanjamesX 6 months ago
Christian's BACK! My favorite hero of all time has just swooped down from atop the Empire State building. Rid the world of Evil.....Make small children snug and happy....make it safe.... for Chrolli's return....
Kellytomcat 6 months ago 2
did Christian say he will never give Ollie a divorce. Why nis he holding unto him? Did u see the look on Ollies face when he saifd that. Is there hope for Chrolli after all. I no it will never be the same as it was but, these two can make a love story looks as though it was going on 4ever. Fantastic actors with a great storyline. Plz get them back 2gether
cmaj129 6 months ago 3
Olli and Christian these women or play you both. the two of you need to wake faster for your long sleep. and get back together now. all this is get boring
carolyndrper35 6 months ago 3
@carolyndrper35 you´re right!!!! good one!!!! i love CHROLLI!!!!!
pameslayer 6 months ago
@pameslayer yes i love CHROLLI 2
carolyndrper35 6 months ago
I hope they still get divorced. I want a new storyline for Olli.
giovanealex 6 months ago