Jesus Survived Crucifixion & Migrated to Kashmir 3/3 {With Urdu S/T}

[mattgresh1]

This is why I dont know what I believe.

[philipzown7]

if Jesus travelled east then he might knw ahead of time that two huge nations will rise in east with the highest population china and india..... just a guess maybe he was preaching who knws

[ifeness24]

everything the bible claimed would happen have all happened,wars(ww1,ww2 etc) its been over 2 thousand years and some ppl are still waiting for him. ppl should grow up and 4get about all these backwardness. you are all trying to pls god cos he promised you heaven......... heaven and here is here on earth,depends on how you view it.

[hebrewmatrix]

Also he was not a Pale White Skin man with straight fine hair like a Caucasian.....His skin was like burnt brass and Wooly hair. He was a Black man

[nicktesla45]

Not the end of Christianity for me !! His Awsome teachings and his miracles still prove He's the Messiah !! In fact I am very glad that he survived to lead a happy and normal life !!

[MsAndreaGreen]

According to the Talmud Jmmanuel, Jesus did not die. Only one man confirmed his death (a centurian soldier) and He was placed in a volunteer’s tomb. This tomb had a back entrance which few who knew about it went in to, to assist Jesus in the healing of His body. mwoman

[TheJasbajwa]

every prophet is right hand of the god.........

[LambrettaFunk]

LOL.

I like the way you've called this "3 of 3" when this BBC documentary goes on to explore the Buddhist influence on Jesus (as Kashmir was in the first century, NOT Muslim)

Typical Muslim. Lolz.

[steflova2]

hmm let's see before he was crucified He said His second coming would be after nations rise against nations, kingdom against kingdom, there would be wars and famines and pestilence. All these things must happen. He also said he would come with all his angels etc -- not tommorrow in an everyday sense as this person is saying at 1:12. And we have Prophecy of Isaiah 53 and Daniel 7-9

[Quetta44]

@steflova2 : Dear, you are right here. But you must also not forget that it was Jesus himself who gave the verdict that once gone from this world people NEVER RETURN. Thus answering the objection of Pharisees that why Elijah has not returned he said that the prophecy about the return of Elijah has fulfilled by the coming of John the Baptist. SIMILARLY, his (Jesus') second coming has been fulfilled by the coming of Hadhrat Ahmad of Qadian who claimed to b Promised Messiah for this era.

[steflova2]

@Quetta44 Many people have claimed to be a the promised Messiah. According to the New Testament, Jesus described in detail the nature of his 2nd Coming. (1) with all his holy angels, (2) to gather his elect from the 4 corners of the earth, (3) every eye would see him (4) to punish the wicked. See Mark 13:26,27; Mark 8:38; Matthew 25; Matt 24; The resurrection is also described by Jesus in the NT

InThe New Testament, Jesus also speaks of the resurrection and the meek inheriting the earth.

[Sagricon]

@steflova2: Dear frnd, I think world have seen those days are you say, Nations against Nations and Kingdom against Kingdoms.

[alkantre]

This explanation would appeal to may sense of logic. I am not Qadiani, but what is offered here seems to tie things together. Neither have I any need for "Christianity as well know it", which is essentially Pauline doctrine. The Qur'an says very little about the end of Jesus, simply that he did not die on the cross and that he is with Allah. And the Christian Gospels give somewhat contradictory account of the resurrection. I don't think the Kashmir story contradicts Qur'an, but Pauline doctrine.

[guitarran]

Just like in the field Ufology, the truth is elusive. Ultimately you are lead down a

endless rabbit hole. And yes it is complicated because we have limited experience

and limited information to affirm ones believe system. Bottom line: we don't live

long enough to filter out what is valid and what is not, it settles with what we are

persuaded by "or faith" if you will.

[fffreddie]

Actually it all makes sense. Jesus died on the cross and was resurrected. How can any man survive being crucified? The Romans were very good at their job. Jesus had to show his disciples his wounds before they believed. He was done with his mission in Israel. Now he had another mission to go on. He went to India and other parts of the world to locate the lost tribes to preach and heal. He promised to return to all of them. Basically the same story all over the world.

[stanfan27]

@fffreddie Also too, I'm not sure if this doc. said it or not but it was written in a few sources that Jesus denounced the caste system and a few other attributes in Indian culture just as it was recorded how he denounced Jewish non-written traditions as well. So it looks like there is some consistency.

[music1M]

Great post. Incredible that this condept can even be suggested now. Years past someone would be burned alive because of it. Some may still want to. Perhaps that has affected the ideas in some way.

[fattytoads]

this is the most likely scenario ..

[xXBlackxRebelXx]

more muslim lies. muslims will do whatever is takes to make jesus real but to suit their religion.

[mnemoniccourier]

Ive heared that Barabas might have been his last name. So that when the people screamed that they wanted Barabas released and not Jesus. They actually ment Jesus. The jews went mad when they was gonna kille Jesus and screamed for his Release. His name was Barabas. But in the scriptures they wrote down that Barabas was a thief and not Jesus to support the clain that the Jews also wanted Jesus dead. So his name might have been Yus Assaf Barabas. He was a Prophet. There is only One God!!!

[antiazazel]

Beware! The lies and doctrines of demons!

[00m3r]

if anything i think the pope would have known this and would have visited it

[maniflora]

Kashmir is a beauty but Christianity more than this one miracle & its jesus teaching that matter, i honestly do believe his body is in kashmir

[m3aow]

fanx alot for sharing thz hidden information ppl shud knw abt the truth..!!!

[MsStormcrow]

A lot of gnostic christians believe jesus survived, so why then are other christian churches so dependent on the ressurection story? shouldn't christianity be more about the teachings of jesus rather than his death?

[stanfan27]

@MsStormcrow The resurrection is the entire basis of salvation and resurrection of followers of Christ.

[MsStormcrow]

@stanfan27 But, I think they should focus more on the actual words of christ (if  in fact he did exist) instead of basing their "salvation" on a event that might not have even happened. the resurrection story may have been made up afterwards to sensationalize the christ story, so more people would be willing to convert. what really happened we shall never know, but basing a faith on the wisdom of kindness seems better to me than basing it on a resurrection that may have never happened.

[MsStormcrow]

@stanfan27 that's only if you believe the concept of original sin, in my opinion it is one of the worst concepts ever thought of. without original sin there is no need for salvation, only faith! if christianity was based more on wisdom, kindness & using this lifetime to learn the lessons we as humans should all learn, there would be no fear based bible thumping BS! too bad ppl don't believe only the words of christ! not other peoples interpretation of his words & chuck the rest of the bible

[MsStormcrow]

@stanfan27 why believe in scriptures when we have no idea who wrote them & what their agenda was! believing we need salvation was brought on by this book written by people over 2000 years ago. & people since then have been scared into believing. in my opinion, that is no way to worship. rather base faith on intuition, wisdom & compassion let that lead you to the divine, not fear. if it still leads you to christ thats fine, it lead me to my own belief in mother/ father god & I'm happy not afraid

[stanfan27]

@MsStormcrow But the evidence is that they do exist and no matter when they were written, they were written. If we find an alterior motive to the writings rather than a revelation, than I can see a possibility but the concept of original sin was first recorded in the Torah by Moses when (stated by him) he says that he received his revelation from God. I agree that there is way too much bible thumping BS going on but that's because it's the "americanized" version of Christianity that...

[stanfan27]

@MsStormcrow ...scares people into believing. If you look at the first century Christians and what became of them after the wrong people got involved (like the early catholic church) you'll see a huge difference. That's why people today are starting the "organic church" movement. Personally I think people completely missed the boat on who Jesus is, ESPECIALLY bible thumpers. But in saying that, his words I believe still stand true and even he spoke of original sin. But to say that you think...

[stanfan27]

@MsStormcrow ...that it should be based upon on the words of Christ doesn't make sense to me because even he spoke of his own death to come and what it stood for needed to be. If you only take the wisdom from it then it's reducing him to a philosopher only and he never claimed to be just that. I keep an open mind about many, many things but only for what makes sense also and cherry-picking just what we want that makes us feel good is not finding truth either.

[MsStormcrow]

@stanfan27 Cherry picking from the bible is EXACTLY what christians should

do! 99% of it isn't relevant anymore, yet people still quote it as though it is. the message of peace and equality is what should be taken from the bible, not fear of god, I think christ would have done more good if he was seen as just a philosopher. then there might have been no killing in his name, only lessons learned from his wisdom. that's if he ever really said these things & existed.

[stanfan27]

@MsStormcrow Though I agree with the statement that some is irrelevant, I will say that the words recorded by Jesus about salvation aren't. Taking some of Paul's words about submissive wives etc. ok, but to take the words concerning salvation and omit them because they don't fit a person's personal agenda is a totally different ballgame. Compare it to diregarding rules written in 1865 about stealing a horse but also throwing out the amancipation proclamation too.....

[stanfan27]

@MsStormcrow ...The issue is we can try to view him all we want as a philosopher but his words in the scriptures states that he said he was the way to God. So either he was made up and none of it's true or he really did say that. Follow his teachings I agree but I don't believe you can cherry pick when he makes a claim stating you'll be separated from God if you don't believe in him. Either it's a hoax or it's real but I'm looking for concrete evidence of the hoax beyond just opinions and words.

[MsStormcrow]

@stanfan27 Have you ever played the game telephone? the sentence is NEVER the same at the end! this is how I see the words of the bible, the stories were passed down orally for generations before it was written down, so the actual words of christ were lost to the ages, and some was undoubtedly added. the story was not new in the time of christ, just look at Horus, his story is almost identical to the christ myth, so ppl should take what is useful to them & take the rest with a grain of salt

[stanfan27]

@MsStormcrow That's the billion dollar question for everyone I think. You're right, the Bible has been lost in translation through the years but only in some senses. Fragments of the Gospels have been found and the fragments match what we read today. In OT, the dead sea scrolls were found in the 40's and are the identical match for OT books like Isaiah and Psalms. The story of Christ is a common help by many other societies but the question is, what really happened? He did exist I believe...

[stanfan27]

@MsStormcrow ..but the real question at least for me is the events in his life and after. In the sense of telephone concerning Jesus, Mark was written only 25 years after his death and books such as 1 Peter, 2 Peter, John and a few others were written by his apostles so I don't think the passing of stories occured in that sense since they recalled what they actually saw him do. The bigger issue I think is did it really happen or was there a conspiracy to ever change those docs or leave out info.

[PurgingFalsehood]

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[99minerkc]

Seems to me that the appropriate people should be allowed to dig up his grave confirm that there are holes in the bones of the feet and hands if possible then rebury properly! We are talking about millions of people affected by this story! I know, I know, Christians will some how justify the new evidence! Oh well...

[ahsan109]

The cross is broken.

Jesus did not die on the cross and hence no resurrection. This is exactly what Promised Messiah (AS) proved more then 100 years ago.

unfortunately majority of the Muslims are waiting for the literal "second coming" of the same Jesus who will go around breaking crosses in churches around the world.