Oh God...what an awful time. I never knew just how bad it was until I ..started studing this week...Jesus Christ things got fucked up beyond all recognition and belief.
@aceflyer89 I don't know how old a lot of you are, but I was in college when it blew. I'm usually not one for flowery language, but in this case I'd have to say that the idea that things became FUBAR is the grossest of understatements. It was a huge factor in bringing down the Soviet Union (unthinkable at the time). The repercussions were profound then, and they haven't subsided yet. And we still don't know the extent of deaths because of government coverups in USSR, France, and most of Europe.
@rogerdotlee No no, I understand and I see your points. The USSR, wanted to help without a doubt - they had copious amounts of supplies but I believe they lacked due to competition; competition at the time with other nations. Either way, I stick to the fact that what the media, documentaries or simulated scenes is not entirely true and there's more to what happened - we'll probably find out the truth 30 or so odd years from now as we always do haha
The song is called Утес (The Cliff), and was performed by Leonid Kharitonov & the Red Army Choir. Someone posted a video response in part 5, showing the live performance of The Cliff
What is the comparison and difference of Explosion of Fukushima and Chernobyl??? And what is the main course of Two Explosion??? Human Error or Poor Building Structure of the Plant???
Only thing similar between them is that they are nuclear disasters. Both disasters are extremely different beyond that point and shouldn't really be compared.
@521i Big difference, Chernobyl was human error, and Fukishima was no ones fault, no design man made can withstand what hit that, it was an annomaly, nothing like that had ever been seen before or was expected to happen. There is a massive difference between the two, and there hasn't been another Chernobyl yet.
@EnragedGoat Absolutely. I don't know of any engineer who could have suggested, with a straight face, "OK. A 9.0 earthquake and a massive tsunami..are we good to go?"
@EnragedGoat your're not getting the point I'm not texting about that fukushima was done by hand or nature I'm texting about when we will stop nukes Fukushima's damage is almost like chernobyl people evacuate radiated people(yes the government hasn't shown this to the media) radiated beef, fish, & vegetables to our dishes high radiation in the reactor & the soil just outside the plant radiated rubble & soil dug somewhere secretly I just can't handle this chaos
While Chernobyl and Fukushima are dramatic, many more lives are lost to the oil and coal power industries than to Chernobyl and Fukushima combined. A side by side comparison shows that nuclear power generation is far safer and better for the environment than oil and coal power.
I'm Russian and I think the way this documentary is made - it's brilliant. The actors, the atmosphere, the clothes they wear and the way they act - if I didn't hear British English from their mouth I would really believe they're Russians. Especially the woman, his wife - to me, she has absolutely slavic type of face.
I don't understand how even communists could have gambled 35,000 lives like that. Not to mention children born AFTER the radiation. Communism is a big ugly cockroach that must be squashed.
@HedgehogStudios1 Perhaps not communism in itself but the way communism in reality plays out.. the culture of fear that existed in soviet russia. This documentary seems to certainly argue that in a more open society the disaster would ahve been handled much more effectively
Totalitarian regimes exist upon the illusion of absolute control. To admit that something had gone terribly wrong would be to admit a lack of control. That's why they held back the truth. Not simply to save their own skins, but to hold on to the illusion that they were in control.
@minesweeper54 not exactly.... radiation didnt affect all of them, in truth death tall is about 6thousand.... from cancer and other diseases but not above that, still terrible but no matter how much you look... theres no real scientific studies that backs up higher figures, specially cause there was no real spike in mutations after the disaster, at least not statistically.
So as far as scientists know... no more than 6000- 7000 died, just to clarify... not to say this wasn't awful
Liars and scum! A message to the people of Japan: DO NOT believe your filthy, rotten, lying, immoral and criminal government! Take immediate action to protect yourselves and your families!
@XBR4Da It's not a stupid question, but it's also not something that can be answered here. Basically, Communism was a political theory where everyone was 'equal'. 'Class' differences were removed, and all competition was removed as everything was owned by the government. Everything (from where you live to what you did for a living) was determined by the state. They planned everything. It looked really good on paper, but it didn't take human nature into account, and was thus a dismal failure.
@XBR4Da Send me a private message here if you're interested in a more in-depth analysis. I was in college during Perestroika and was > < that far from being in Berlin on the day the Berlin Wall fell.
(I still haven't forgiven the person who was sent in my place. And she holds it over my head at every opportunity. Grumph.)
To hell with all those incompetent Soviet bastards !!!! played with the lives of over 30,000 people in Pripyat and other nearby places. Not only was their nation a failed one but also their nuclear reactors. This tv show makes me so angry that it makes me want to go back in time and deal with those morons.
@god0fgod... I think what they refered to as the metallic taste sensation was actually radiation interaction with nerves, due to the extremely high neutron and gamma levels. They also described a prickly sensation on their face and other exposed skin... Radiation itself has no taste, smell or colour.
@GREENVK Well, it might not induce taste in the normal method, but it it does cause a metallic taste, then I suppose it doesn't taste of something. I did however, assume it was the radiative dust that tasted that way.
@GREENVK No. It's same sensation as it is when air ionises which happans when radiation levels are high or during lighting storm or due high voltage. It's odorless, tastless and invisible but it can produce some effects like air ionisation or light blue glowing due Cherenkov's radiation. That's all.
That's seem actually realistic, not that I would try it, but since the waves of the radiation are so high (as it was in chernobyl). It's like about the same feeling you get from the sun or when you're sunbathing, only more intense than usual.
@GREENVK I've never really understood if radiation can do anything to mechanical and electronic things. I've seen footage of helicopters simply falling out of the sky at the Chernobyl site. So is this the radiation simply shutting down the helo's systems?
@TGTAP the helicopter actually clipped one of the cables that holds the chimney up. The pilots were understandably very fatigued from constant flights for drops into the reactor. They most likely just misjudged their distance and crashed. I don't think radiation had anything to do with equipment failures on board it. There were robots initially sent onto the roof to clean up. They did fail due to the high radiation many times. So people, nick named "Bio-Robots" were sent in their place.
I don't know whether helicopters crashed due to the radiation or not, but yes, radiation does cause damage to semiconductors. That's why chips in space crafts are radiation hardened - the radiation destroys the crystal structure of the chips. The Soviets tried to use robots which originally were supposed to land on the moon to clean the roof of the reactor building, but the robots failed because of the intense radiation. They sent in soldiers later, most of them died or are ill now.
@god0fgod@GREENVK To seal the open reactor they also used lead that melted because of the fire inside, and also partly vaporized into the sky.. Rescue workers that are still alive now say they can still taste lead in their mouth because lead stays in your system..:(
Also, the radioactive particles in the air contained ionide, caecium and other chemicals that may also cause the metalic taste.
But GREENVK is right, radiation itself had no taste.
Why are you dick heads bringing communism in to this? Do you actually think that if this happened in America it would be handled differently? Look at 9/11, not only was it probably an inside job but they didn't even tell the people if the air around ground zero was safe to berate. This is not the fault of communism but the fault of human stupidity. And you are a perfect example of this...
Just make me angry how they never evacuated the town as soon as it happened or when they foubd out it was kicking out 15000 rads. Communism and fear stopped people acting on there own common sense.
Once again: says who? the waste it produces is non recyclable and extremely dangerous plus there is no safe solution for it(not even storage).
Oh and on France:
No major incident that they would have us know of and.....wow ...really 72%? Who cares? it's still no argument whatsoever for it being safe or efficient. The French used extensive atomic bomb testing(210 total) well into the 1990's does it make that safe or otherwise sensible?
And why did it hapen?b/c nothing has been updated since the 50's...and now 80% of the worlds radioactive trash will be send to the ural in hopes to be recycled.The money the us gov. pays, could never come close to what needs to be spend to make it safe. Money will go into corrupt pockets, the people will get the trash.Trash that will last mio of yrs...
Also,US owned companies around the world will bring their nuclear trash.Sounds like accidents waiting to happen,wrap yourselfs in aluminum foil.
Nuclear power may not create emmissions or smoke but what nobody seems to think about, it produces contaminated trash (the burnt out rods) that we don't have a place to store, it is something the grandkids of our grandkids will still have to deal with.
@ThePPRHRT Not if you put it in the ground. Jesus christ, People think that putting it in the grounds going to contaminate the earth or something, it wont. The case that nuclear rods are put in are a strong as anything. Its not like they just toss the rods straight into the ground. Also, I believe rods can be used for medical purposes. IM NOT SURE ON THAT ONE, but I think ive heard it before.
@FlashProduktions Before rods can be re-used,they need to be reprocessed,which creates further problems.There is high + low level waste,rods are high level+ very long half life.Basically, after the nuclear chain reaction stops (rod+burned out),there is still plutonium etc left.Radioactivity can "leak" into the soil + groundwater,which is why the yucca mountain project was abandoned.If it was so save having around,why would the US send their trash to the Ural?Check into it...
@kzam717 The idea of radioactive substances leaking into the ground would make sense to most people. But if you knew about what kind of precautions and how well they keep it stored, you would think differently. Once again, "Its not like they just toss the rods straight into the ground". Also, I believe that they dont even burry it. Instead they make it like a mine, and just put them in a tunnel. Also, I think yucca mountain was abandoned because of it being on Native American grounds.
@FlashProduktions don't think,read up on it...you're right about the tunnel,it goes miles inside the mountain.However,it happens to be in proximity of a fault line.Which was not exactly a secret.Truth is they're desperate for storing the old burned out fuel rods +fission byproducts already,but we're daily producing more.Check out the low level waste while you're at it; it gets sunk in the gulf of farralone in barrels holed by gunfire to sink.Fishermen there have the highest cancer rates.
@kzam717 Well, then we can agree on something. Nuclear waste needs to be cared for better and people need to take charge in this matter, not forget about it. I still personally believe that putting it in the ground is a smart idea. Of course, not along a fault line. btw, thank you for not being like the greenpeace idiots that have been messaging me. "ur stoopid radioactive stuf is badd br0". Its also funny because greenpeaces leader likes nuclear power.
@FlashProduktions in the Ural,where they have been burying things and plan to take it all,82% of children have health problems related to radioactivity.Feeding our trash to the poor can't be the solution the "civilized" world comes up with.It shouldn't even be allowed to move it away from the plant,but deal with it there.And that still leaves the question,will it still be safe there in 100 000-1 mio years...the only thing we have going,are backup cooling systems in our power plants...
@kzam717 Yes, but they arent very high up in nuclear technology nor technology and knowhow of how to safely take care of nuclear waste. Im not sure about the ural thing, but if people are being affected by it, its obvious its close by to civilization. What the world needs to do is think this through and plan where to effectively put nuclear waste without damaging the ecosystem. As long as you keep the waste maintained and well kept, there wont be any problems.
@FlashProduktions hmm,so I guess you're not aware of the 123 agreement either.B/c that's where our waste will go,after abandonment of all other options(which bio $ were spend on).Russia will get 20bio$/10yrs to deal w/ it.
Russia will spend 5 mio to "build new facilities",whose necessity even they have admitted.Reality is,it would cost 5X that to upgrade 1 facility that's there already.General Electric made 200 bio$ in 2009 .Yet they have not come up w/ a place to "keep + maintain" it.Problems?!
@kzam717 What you're doing is using examples today. Im telling you that theres ways to store the spent fuel rods that havent really been used at all. Of course, all of your examples are russian related which isnt the best country to be using. Russia is so far back in nuclear safety and NRC regulations that its not even funny. I personally believe that burrying it far from civilization, or keeping it in facilities at the plant is the best choice.
@FlashProduktions And I'm telling you,DO SOME RESEARCH.These are examples of how the USA DEALS WITH THEIR TRASH TODAY. They give a poor country "chum change" to go ahead and poison it's people.Who will never get to see any of the $,b/c it will dissappear.So will the "reprocessables".It's comfortable for us to believe it's all fun and unicorns,like the power comps. tell us,but NOT EVEN THEY seem to think so. If you have a solution,you should try selling it to them.You could make 10 bio $...
@kzam717 Ill do research when you BOTHER TO READ MY STATEMENTS. for the last goad damn time. I Know the way we handle nuclear waste is terrible, but im saying that there is better ways to do so. And slowly the countries of the world are figuring them out. Do you really expect man to instantly realize everything about something? It takes time. You do not understand what points im trying to prove here. So, read my previous statements, and you will.
You're an idiot, and all rational people around the world must confront idiots like you, who stick their heads in the ground, and insist that Nuclear power is a viable solution to our power problems, it is not, no matter how safe the power plants themselves are, the risk from disaster is too great. The waste produced too destructive, to be tolerated. It's not a question of if there will be another nuclear disaster, but when.
@darkcowboyhero and you're a fool for believing the same old Bullshit. An accident may happen, but not in the United States, Russia, The UK or any European country. Sure, when some country like Iran makes nuclear plants, they have a decently large chance of an accident. Its not nuclear power plants fault, its the people who design them. Nuclear power is cheap, environmental, and safe. The chances are so low, because human error is fixed by the machine, and machine errors are fixed by the humans
Let's hope this doesn't happen again. The reason most of these people died was because they weren't signaled to evacuate. If they were signaled ALOT less people would have died
And yeah, before you go on starting blaming "communism" and socialism in all mortal sins think on whether B.P. gives a crap about the Gulf of Mexico, U.S. drones about civilians, the Fed about your kids, or where ever the hell your from government about your stinkin' ass? You really believe in human rights after all that we see today? After Nobel Peace Prizes are given to those who start wars in the name of democracy? The only right you have is to smoke weed and be a pervert.
This movie doesn't have anything to do with reality. Even the names of the officials and staff are screwed up. In fact it was estimated that a similar disaster somewhere in Western Europe would have claimed the lives of tens of thousands of people. The Soviets' Civil Defence was the best in the world and many contemporaries and researchers agree on that. For example in Life After Doomsday.
@a01087483 Three Mile Island leakage 1979, Fukushima 2011, etc. Untill 2011 Chenobyl was considered to be the worst nuclear disaster. Now the Japanese accident proved to be much more violent and with far-going consequences, which would leave the Russian disaster far behind.
@GtaGekkerd: the skeleton of facts presented is real; some of the scenes are overplayed (kids collapsing in the streets, that didn't happen; the threat if they dropped water on the reactor is way overstated, though it certainly would not have been good). The dialog is fictional, but probably not far off the mark.
can someone please explain to me why the poeple in charge were such thick heads, i mean how stupid can they be, why were they denying the truth that the disaster was thousands of times worse?
@03MARA01: With the exception of the main character, none off them were very knowledgeable about the technical aspects, and those that were didn't know about the other similar reeactors that had failed, and why. They were all (including him) Soviet bureaucrats, a system that discouraged individual thought and risk taking. They were charged with making the USSR economically better than the western nations with one hand and leg tied behind them and marbles in their mouths.
would you have Japs talking with an Australian accent in a movie about Pearl Harbour???? Really? Just a joke. This must have been to stroke the egos of the producers. Fucking sad...makes me sick to be an actor when I see this crap. Mastabatory art.
politicians in a nutshell "to them the bigger threat is the invisible one, more dangerous than the known one" they are more afraid of loosing their power in society than accepting the measure of the catastrophy... they should be shot!
The tragedy here isn't the destruction of the reactor core. the true tragedy is the murder or an entire city o people because an administration wanted to escape embarrassment. i believe this is the peak of human arrogance. when you are willing to let people lose their lives without warning you are nothing less than evil . I understand the USSR was a very different country but there is no excuse. these people are as heartless as the nazis in my mind. the only difference is this was an accident .
@mariopot789: Oh, but you do see the very same thing happening here in the US, and I imagine in all countries. Government brass will often do something stupid and then classify it in order to keep the details from he public. If you don't think it does happen here, you're being played for a fool.
you can see chernobyl on google earth and its scary to see it their and the red forest and everything . it even says alienation zone...Chernobyl and pripyat fucking scare and disturb me deeply...just the feeling that people went in and never came out of chernobyl is deeply disturbing......fucking dementedly scary...
@sliptodaknot91: No, there's not. There are a few who disappeared while fighting the fire; they either fell or were overcome by smoke. No visible bodies.
The exploded reactor was one of four operating (were to be six). The other three continued operating, the last one was stopped ten years later. That means there were people in the plant operating it for ten years after the accident.
@1985woooman this happened in 1986 it is more than safe enough to take walking tours these days and even this most the radiation lies outside in the woods and it is safer too be inside buildings since most windows where close during the explosion....you would be safe.....i would go digging holes in the ground or anything but it poses no threat to walk around other wise im sure the government wouldnt let tourist in
@sliptodaknot91 i know, but remember, that if we cant repopulate there in another 1000 years about, i mean, its it hasn't eve been 30 years. gets me worried, but im still going to do whatever i have to do to visit,
@sliptodaknot91: I don't know where you may have gotten this information. The bulk of the radioactive materials remain inside the sarcophagus. The plant buildings outside that were cleaned and used for ten years following the accident. Outside, its OK almost everywhere for short periods as long as you don't dig things up. In 200 years all the site except for the sarcophagus will be OK for industrial use; that will require 20,000 years without any remediation.
Hmm... very rarely in the teleplay is the name of the Party invoked (though the word Soviet is used once or twice). I see the crux of this docudrama as being a warning against secrecy no matter what the political stripe - not necessarily an attack on nuclear power, or on Soviet communism.
its funny after so many years after the end of the cold war people can't let go of all the propaganda no matter what 'side' they think they're on, like they're programmed robots
@reeven2003 the russians killed the polish? YAY I LOVE YOU RUSSIANS THANKYOU FOR KILLING THOSE UGLY POLISH YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYY I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU IOVE YOU
Nuclear energy is by far the best way to generate electricity, but it has to be done safely, otherwise this typical russian clusterfuck shit will happen.
@seid0067 What about all the nuclear waste? All the radiation emitting from all of the spend fuel rods, contaminated materials will take thousands of years to lose their half life. No one wants this stuff in their backyard. You cant control radiation.
I hope nothing like this ever happens again!
Libstergirl74 3 days ago
this documentary is very deep....
Velerie1 1 week ago
05:10 for a dieing fat guy
mk1Racing 3 weeks ago 2
They are Unimaginable Bastards. 15000 Roengtens is Just Like Sitting On a Furnace
gouthamkrishnaa 1 month ago
4:37 Glastnost NONSENSE! Haha
Dominoes282 2 months ago
Oh God...what an awful time. I never knew just how bad it was until I ..started studing this week...Jesus Christ things got fucked up beyond all recognition and belief.
aceflyer89 2 months ago
@aceflyer89 I don't know how old a lot of you are, but I was in college when it blew. I'm usually not one for flowery language, but in this case I'd have to say that the idea that things became FUBAR is the grossest of understatements. It was a huge factor in bringing down the Soviet Union (unthinkable at the time). The repercussions were profound then, and they haven't subsided yet. And we still don't know the extent of deaths because of government coverups in USSR, France, and most of Europe.
rogerdotlee 2 months ago in playlist Chernobyl Nuclear Disaster - Surviving Disaster
@rogerdotlee No no, I understand and I see your points. The USSR, wanted to help without a doubt - they had copious amounts of supplies but I believe they lacked due to competition; competition at the time with other nations. Either way, I stick to the fact that what the media, documentaries or simulated scenes is not entirely true and there's more to what happened - we'll probably find out the truth 30 or so odd years from now as we always do haha
aceflyer89 2 months ago
The song is called Утес (The Cliff), and was performed by Leonid Kharitonov & the Red Army Choir. Someone posted a video response in part 5, showing the live performance of The Cliff
GREENVK 3 months ago 3
@GREENVK your awsome!
07sandrewsworth 1 month ago
anybody knows song at 4:47?
eye5973 3 months ago
1:09
ahaha radiate that shit!!
jessybubblz 3 months ago
My man is still smoking even when his skin is falling off...
desireeivegbuna1 4 months ago
So have of Pipryat's population was children?
IloveMIT8923 5 months ago
@IloveMIT8923
Pripyat's Population was 50,000.... But the people are most of them was Nuclear Power Factory Workers with their family...
JamesKoslov14 5 months ago
@JamesKoslov14 I know but in the video it said something about how half of the town's population was children.
IloveMIT8923 5 months ago
@IloveMIT8923
yeah... almost half of population was children..
JamesKoslov14 5 months ago
@JamesKoslov14 Alright...that was my question...
IloveMIT8923 5 months ago
What is the comparison and difference of Explosion of Fukushima and Chernobyl??? And what is the main course of Two Explosion??? Human Error or Poor Building Structure of the Plant???
JamesKoslov14 6 months ago in playlist Chernobyl
@JamesKoslov14
Only thing similar between them is that they are nuclear disasters. Both disasters are extremely different beyond that point and shouldn't really be compared.
America100000able 5 months ago
I'm going to say ironic
We had Chernobyl
We had Fukushima
Where's the next place that's going to get shot by this Russian roulette???
521i 7 months ago
@521i Big difference, Chernobyl was human error, and Fukishima was no ones fault, no design man made can withstand what hit that, it was an annomaly, nothing like that had ever been seen before or was expected to happen. There is a massive difference between the two, and there hasn't been another Chernobyl yet.
EnragedGoat 7 months ago
@EnragedGoat Absolutely. I don't know of any engineer who could have suggested, with a straight face, "OK. A 9.0 earthquake and a massive tsunami..are we good to go?"
ChristopherSaindon 7 months ago in playlist Nuclear War (it's the BOMB!)
521i 6 months ago
@521i
While Chernobyl and Fukushima are dramatic, many more lives are lost to the oil and coal power industries than to Chernobyl and Fukushima combined. A side by side comparison shows that nuclear power generation is far safer and better for the environment than oil and coal power.
Textra1 6 months ago
@Textra1
u stiil say yes 4 nukes??
... I can't believe it
521i 6 months ago
I'm this maybe a stupid question, but the people were in the helicopter why was it so bad for them to look in the reactor?
MTVGUY4 7 months ago
@MTVGUY4 The radiation was to high, one of the heli guys died because he sat in the door opening, the other man survived.
gavamild 7 months ago
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Can someone please tell me what is the song at 4:45???
B766 8 months ago
The metallic taste was attributed to radioactive Iodine emitted from the reactor core.
I suppose Legasov took his life because the Soviet authorities would not listen to him.
As the narrative said: "Soviet reactors are flawless".
How high up the chain of command did you have to be to realise otherwise?
The station staff were unaware of the events at Ignalina for example.
The suggestion the fire in the core be allowed to burn out is a horrific one.
Was such a suggestion actually made?
NJPurling 9 months ago
I'm Russian and I think the way this documentary is made - it's brilliant. The actors, the atmosphere, the clothes they wear and the way they act - if I didn't hear British English from their mouth I would really believe they're Russians. Especially the woman, his wife - to me, she has absolutely slavic type of face.
Annylucidmind 10 months ago 8
@Annylucidmind i thought they were ukainien
07sandrewsworth 1 month ago
@Annylucidmind Я согласен, что это хорошо сделали документальный фильм.
xXDEICIDE216Xx 1 week ago
Footage from the city are made from my hometown Pilaite in Lithuania :)
gagablet 10 months ago
gosh that's terrible. I feel so bad watching this on the 25th anniversary of the explosion D:
KawaiiIchigo156 10 months ago
Can someone please tell me what is the song at 4:45???
B766 10 months ago
Damn right communism just does not work , it keeps dangerous secrets , its not fair and it allows morons to gain control!
bigmangiff 10 months ago
This is scary as hell! But its all real.....
norwayownz16 10 months ago
i think dying of radiation sickness is one of the most horrible ways to die
xMendy22 11 months ago 15
@xMendy22 Yeah, Don't need you to say that. We know.
damthatriver09 10 months ago
@xMendy22
i would rather die of medieval torture
Rivannous 1 month ago
@xMendy22 I would have to agree with you
Libstergirl74 3 days ago
I don't understand how even communists could have gambled 35,000 lives like that. Not to mention children born AFTER the radiation. Communism is a big ugly cockroach that must be squashed.
HedgehogStudios1 11 months ago
@HedgehogStudios1 Perhaps not communism in itself but the way communism in reality plays out.. the culture of fear that existed in soviet russia. This documentary seems to certainly argue that in a more open society the disaster would ahve been handled much more effectively
BROWASSUPBRA 11 months ago
@BROWASSUPBRA You mean like the Three Mile Island incident?
bestshowontheweb 8 months ago
this is awful. were the idiots that let this continue and ran from the truth punished?
th4Guy77 11 months ago
@th4Guy77 This is still happening.
damthatriver09 10 months ago
lol, why are they all smoking squashed fags
Multimine 11 months ago
Totalitarian regimes exist upon the illusion of absolute control. To admit that something had gone terribly wrong would be to admit a lack of control. That's why they held back the truth. Not simply to save their own skins, but to hold on to the illusion that they were in control.
zeropointapathy 11 months ago
35.000 dead/mutated/traumatised people R.I.P
minesweeper54 11 months ago
@minesweeper54 not exactly.... radiation didnt affect all of them, in truth death tall is about 6thousand.... from cancer and other diseases but not above that, still terrible but no matter how much you look... theres no real scientific studies that backs up higher figures, specially cause there was no real spike in mutations after the disaster, at least not statistically.
So as far as scientists know... no more than 6000- 7000 died, just to clarify... not to say this wasn't awful
a01087483 8 months ago
even if they gave them a warning they could not evacuate in time.
minesweeper54 11 months ago
@minesweeper54 Thats true but if they evacuated people sooner, there would have been a lot less radiation damage/sicknes/cancer..
xMendy22 11 months ago
so sad should have gave a warning
onezeed569 11 months ago
Liars and scum! A message to the people of Japan: DO NOT believe your filthy, rotten, lying, immoral and criminal government! Take immediate action to protect yourselves and your families!
RedDelPaPa 11 months ago
aren't most of these actors comedians?
liamjhackett 11 months ago
This actually made me feel very tense S:
JamesWaton 11 months ago
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XBR4Da 11 months ago
@XBR4Da It's not a stupid question. I'm 14, so i will explain as best as i can.
Communism is often seen as when the government restricts people's access
to outside sources of information. Communist states are often very secretive and
will also apply certain conditions to people living in the country, such as extra tax
etc. It's all very political, but it's not a good thing.
SmartStudios 11 months ago
@XBR4Da google communism,then start reading
farenht456 11 months ago
@XBR4Da It's not a stupid question, but it's also not something that can be answered here. Basically, Communism was a political theory where everyone was 'equal'. 'Class' differences were removed, and all competition was removed as everything was owned by the government. Everything (from where you live to what you did for a living) was determined by the state. They planned everything. It looked really good on paper, but it didn't take human nature into account, and was thus a dismal failure.
rogerdotlee 2 months ago
@XBR4Da Send me a private message here if you're interested in a more in-depth analysis. I was in college during Perestroika and was > < that far from being in Berlin on the day the Berlin Wall fell.
(I still haven't forgiven the person who was sent in my place. And she holds it over my head at every opportunity. Grumph.)
rogerdotlee 2 months ago
To hell with all those incompetent Soviet bastards !!!! played with the lives of over 30,000 people in Pripyat and other nearby places. Not only was their nation a failed one but also their nuclear reactors. This tv show makes me so angry that it makes me want to go back in time and deal with those morons.
starjay009 11 months ago
it seems pride from some of the workers killed alot of people.
thedevos1981 11 months ago
ignorance can kill you
lucy918 11 months ago
at 1:10 that was the freakiest part of the whole documentary for real!
traxxasmaxx33 11 months ago
Apparently, the radiation from the reactor can be tasted. Apparently it tastes metalic. Is that true?
god0fgod 11 months ago 8
@god0fgod only if a chunk of uranium happened land in your mouth. Radiation is tasteless, odorless and invisible.
traxxasmaxx33 11 months ago
@traxxasmaxx33 Even radioactive dust. The video said the dust tasted metalic and gave the air a sense like after a thunderstorm.
god0fgod 11 months ago
@god0fgod Well yes the particles can be tasted, but radiation itself is tasteless.
traxxasmaxx33 11 months ago
@god0fgod... I think what they refered to as the metallic taste sensation was actually radiation interaction with nerves, due to the extremely high neutron and gamma levels. They also described a prickly sensation on their face and other exposed skin... Radiation itself has no taste, smell or colour.
GREENVK 11 months ago 13
@GREENVK Well, it might not induce taste in the normal method, but it it does cause a metallic taste, then I suppose it doesn't taste of something. I did however, assume it was the radiative dust that tasted that way.
I certainly wouldn't like to taste it.
god0fgod 11 months ago
@GREENVK No. It's same sensation as it is when air ionises which happans when radiation levels are high or during lighting storm or due high voltage. It's odorless, tastless and invisible but it can produce some effects like air ionisation or light blue glowing due Cherenkov's radiation. That's all.
NeutrinoLepton 11 months ago
@GREENVK i thinkits ionized iodideor someting that begins with i i remember that they were tasting
EXO903 11 months ago
@GREENVK You scare me.
damthatriver09 10 months ago
@GREENVK Actualy a guy how whas on the roof and had to had 45 sec to clear a few granitys from theroof he said u could taste it !......justsaying
wertos22 7 months ago
@GREENVK
That's seem actually realistic, not that I would try it, but since the waves of the radiation are so high (as it was in chernobyl). It's like about the same feeling you get from the sun or when you're sunbathing, only more intense than usual.
MrMaxen92 5 months ago
@GREENVK I've never really understood if radiation can do anything to mechanical and electronic things. I've seen footage of helicopters simply falling out of the sky at the Chernobyl site. So is this the radiation simply shutting down the helo's systems?
TGTAP 4 months ago
@TGTAP the helicopter actually clipped one of the cables that holds the chimney up. The pilots were understandably very fatigued from constant flights for drops into the reactor. They most likely just misjudged their distance and crashed. I don't think radiation had anything to do with equipment failures on board it. There were robots initially sent onto the roof to clean up. They did fail due to the high radiation many times. So people, nick named "Bio-Robots" were sent in their place.
GREENVK 4 months ago
@GREENVK Ah ok, thank you for answering my question =)
TGTAP 4 months ago
@TGTAP Hi,
I don't know whether helicopters crashed due to the radiation or not, but yes, radiation does cause damage to semiconductors. That's why chips in space crafts are radiation hardened - the radiation destroys the crystal structure of the chips. The Soviets tried to use robots which originally were supposed to land on the moon to clean the roof of the reactor building, but the robots failed because of the intense radiation. They sent in soldiers later, most of them died or are ill now.
bunhuelito 3 months ago
@god0fgod the metallic taste was lead that was dumped in the reactor to cool it down, apparently some of it vaporised.
piraat6666 11 months ago
@god0fgod @GREENVK To seal the open reactor they also used lead that melted because of the fire inside, and also partly vaporized into the sky.. Rescue workers that are still alive now say they can still taste lead in their mouth because lead stays in your system..:(
Also, the radioactive particles in the air contained ionide, caecium and other chemicals that may also cause the metalic taste.
But GREENVK is right, radiation itself had no taste.
xMendy22 11 months ago
@god0fgod ..blood tastes like copper/iron. i guess its due to internal bleeding from cell decomposition that they can taste.
TulwarKahn 11 months ago
@god0fgod I'm not an expert, but I think the metallic taste described comes from (radioactive) iodine
efinis 11 months ago
@god0fgod The escaping contaminants contain lots of radioactive Iodine, which has a metallic taste. Radiation itself is tasteless
offramp100 11 months ago
@god0fgod well. . . would you want to taste it?
AidanLunn 10 months ago
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dazeb 9 months ago
@god0fgod Maybe it was due to the high level of iodine?
orgminyak 7 months ago
@god0fgod Uranium and plutonium is in the air surrounding the reactor. So what do you reckon? You can't taste radiation.
nucleartactician 7 months ago
I really believe its not worth it to use nuclear power, even with its benefits but the risk is too great
Q8Bo3abed 11 months ago
Macho bullshit not asking for help because a man knows best, always fucks us up in the end.
RedJoe10 11 months ago
Why are you dick heads bringing communism in to this? Do you actually think that if this happened in America it would be handled differently? Look at 9/11, not only was it probably an inside job but they didn't even tell the people if the air around ground zero was safe to berate. This is not the fault of communism but the fault of human stupidity. And you are a perfect example of this...
kalasnikov47 1 year ago
I must say that Adrian Edmondson is quite impressive in this. I never knew that he was such a good actor.
Darkmind1970 1 year ago 24
Just make me angry how they never evacuated the town as soon as it happened or when they foubd out it was kicking out 15000 rads. Communism and fear stopped people acting on there own common sense.
ntfclad1985 1 year ago
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@Bayc0n
Once again: says who? the waste it produces is non recyclable and extremely dangerous plus there is no safe solution for it(not even storage).
Oh and on France:
No major incident that they would have us know of and.....wow ...really 72%? Who cares? it's still no argument whatsoever for it being safe or efficient. The French used extensive atomic bomb testing(210 total) well into the 1990's does it make that safe or otherwise sensible?
TwiceCitizen 1 year ago
This documentary is like watching a horror movie. Truth is just stranger than fiction.
PrUnEJuIcEtHeThIrD 1 year ago 45
And why did it hapen?b/c nothing has been updated since the 50's...and now 80% of the worlds radioactive trash will be send to the ural in hopes to be recycled.The money the us gov. pays, could never come close to what needs to be spend to make it safe. Money will go into corrupt pockets, the people will get the trash.Trash that will last mio of yrs...
Also,US owned companies around the world will bring their nuclear trash.Sounds like accidents waiting to happen,wrap yourselfs in aluminum foil.
kzam717 1 year ago
whats up with their weird cigarettes?
sayhellyes 1 year ago
Nuclear power may not create emmissions or smoke but what nobody seems to think about, it produces contaminated trash (the burnt out rods) that we don't have a place to store, it is something the grandkids of our grandkids will still have to deal with.
ThePPRHRT 1 year ago
@ThePPRHRT Not if you put it in the ground. Jesus christ, People think that putting it in the grounds going to contaminate the earth or something, it wont. The case that nuclear rods are put in are a strong as anything. Its not like they just toss the rods straight into the ground. Also, I believe rods can be used for medical purposes. IM NOT SURE ON THAT ONE, but I think ive heard it before.
FlashProduktions 1 year ago
@FlashProduktions Before rods can be re-used,they need to be reprocessed,which creates further problems.There is high + low level waste,rods are high level+ very long half life.Basically, after the nuclear chain reaction stops (rod+burned out),there is still plutonium etc left.Radioactivity can "leak" into the soil + groundwater,which is why the yucca mountain project was abandoned.If it was so save having around,why would the US send their trash to the Ural?Check into it...
kzam717 1 year ago
@kzam717 The idea of radioactive substances leaking into the ground would make sense to most people. But if you knew about what kind of precautions and how well they keep it stored, you would think differently. Once again, "Its not like they just toss the rods straight into the ground". Also, I believe that they dont even burry it. Instead they make it like a mine, and just put them in a tunnel. Also, I think yucca mountain was abandoned because of it being on Native American grounds.
FlashProduktions 1 year ago
@FlashProduktions don't think,read up on it...you're right about the tunnel,it goes miles inside the mountain.However,it happens to be in proximity of a fault line.Which was not exactly a secret.Truth is they're desperate for storing the old burned out fuel rods +fission byproducts already,but we're daily producing more.Check out the low level waste while you're at it; it gets sunk in the gulf of farralone in barrels holed by gunfire to sink.Fishermen there have the highest cancer rates.
kzam717 1 year ago
@kzam717 Well, then we can agree on something. Nuclear waste needs to be cared for better and people need to take charge in this matter, not forget about it. I still personally believe that putting it in the ground is a smart idea. Of course, not along a fault line. btw, thank you for not being like the greenpeace idiots that have been messaging me. "ur stoopid radioactive stuf is badd br0". Its also funny because greenpeaces leader likes nuclear power.
FlashProduktions 1 year ago
@FlashProduktions in the Ural,where they have been burying things and plan to take it all,82% of children have health problems related to radioactivity.Feeding our trash to the poor can't be the solution the "civilized" world comes up with.It shouldn't even be allowed to move it away from the plant,but deal with it there.And that still leaves the question,will it still be safe there in 100 000-1 mio years...the only thing we have going,are backup cooling systems in our power plants...
kzam717 1 year ago
@kzam717 Yes, but they arent very high up in nuclear technology nor technology and knowhow of how to safely take care of nuclear waste. Im not sure about the ural thing, but if people are being affected by it, its obvious its close by to civilization. What the world needs to do is think this through and plan where to effectively put nuclear waste without damaging the ecosystem. As long as you keep the waste maintained and well kept, there wont be any problems.
FlashProduktions 1 year ago
@FlashProduktions hmm,so I guess you're not aware of the 123 agreement either.B/c that's where our waste will go,after abandonment of all other options(which bio $ were spend on).Russia will get 20bio$/10yrs to deal w/ it.
Russia will spend 5 mio to "build new facilities",whose necessity even they have admitted.Reality is,it would cost 5X that to upgrade 1 facility that's there already.General Electric made 200 bio$ in 2009 .Yet they have not come up w/ a place to "keep + maintain" it.Problems?!
kzam717 1 year ago
@kzam717 What you're doing is using examples today. Im telling you that theres ways to store the spent fuel rods that havent really been used at all. Of course, all of your examples are russian related which isnt the best country to be using. Russia is so far back in nuclear safety and NRC regulations that its not even funny. I personally believe that burrying it far from civilization, or keeping it in facilities at the plant is the best choice.
FlashProduktions 1 year ago
@FlashProduktions And I'm telling you,DO SOME RESEARCH.These are examples of how the USA DEALS WITH THEIR TRASH TODAY. They give a poor country "chum change" to go ahead and poison it's people.Who will never get to see any of the $,b/c it will dissappear.So will the "reprocessables".It's comfortable for us to believe it's all fun and unicorns,like the power comps. tell us,but NOT EVEN THEY seem to think so. If you have a solution,you should try selling it to them.You could make 10 bio $...
kzam717 1 year ago 2
@kzam717 Ill do research when you BOTHER TO READ MY STATEMENTS. for the last goad damn time. I Know the way we handle nuclear waste is terrible, but im saying that there is better ways to do so. And slowly the countries of the world are figuring them out. Do you really expect man to instantly realize everything about something? It takes time. You do not understand what points im trying to prove here. So, read my previous statements, and you will.
FlashProduktions 1 year ago
@FlashProduktions You just made my point.
kzam717 1 year ago
@FlashProduktions
You're an idiot, and all rational people around the world must confront idiots like you, who stick their heads in the ground, and insist that Nuclear power is a viable solution to our power problems, it is not, no matter how safe the power plants themselves are, the risk from disaster is too great. The waste produced too destructive, to be tolerated. It's not a question of if there will be another nuclear disaster, but when.
darkcowboyhero 11 months ago
@darkcowboyhero and you're a fool for believing the same old Bullshit. An accident may happen, but not in the United States, Russia, The UK or any European country. Sure, when some country like Iran makes nuclear plants, they have a decently large chance of an accident. Its not nuclear power plants fault, its the people who design them. Nuclear power is cheap, environmental, and safe. The chances are so low, because human error is fixed by the machine, and machine errors are fixed by the humans
FlashProduktions 11 months ago
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FlashProduktions 11 months ago
Let's hope this doesn't happen again. The reason most of these people died was because they weren't signaled to evacuate. If they were signaled ALOT less people would have died
hockeykid30b 1 year ago
Green you know your stuff
dynamitesage 1 year ago
And yeah, before you go on starting blaming "communism" and socialism in all mortal sins think on whether B.P. gives a crap about the Gulf of Mexico, U.S. drones about civilians, the Fed about your kids, or where ever the hell your from government about your stinkin' ass? You really believe in human rights after all that we see today? After Nobel Peace Prizes are given to those who start wars in the name of democracy? The only right you have is to smoke weed and be a pervert.
Alex38306 1 year ago
This movie doesn't have anything to do with reality. Even the names of the officials and staff are screwed up. In fact it was estimated that a similar disaster somewhere in Western Europe would have claimed the lives of tens of thousands of people. The Soviets' Civil Defence was the best in the world and many contemporaries and researchers agree on that. For example in Life After Doomsday.
Alex38306 1 year ago
@Alex38306 Could you give examples of the other disasters? :0.... I know nothing of a worse one in western europe o_o
I know of another on in Russia during the 50`s - 60`s cant remember... the lighthouse accident or malt something... cant remember right
a01087483 8 months ago
@a01087483 Three Mile Island leakage 1979, Fukushima 2011, etc. Untill 2011 Chenobyl was considered to be the worst nuclear disaster. Now the Japanese accident proved to be much more violent and with far-going consequences, which would leave the Russian disaster far behind.
Alex38306 8 months ago
Ade Edmundson is spectacular in this...very very impressed!
auraobieful 1 year ago
3:32 Imran Zikhaev
dumfart21 1 year ago
THOSE MEN WERE SUCH GOBSHITES, HOW BLIND THEY WERE AND SO MANY PEOPLE SUFFERED BECAUSE OF IT, SICKENING, THEY SHOULD HAVE EVACUATED ASAP, SUCH FOOLS
89bparsons 1 year ago
the marriage in this was kinda strong. 2 people in love and being married on a day where radiation will devastate this place.
sad
chaklong 1 year ago
is all this real?
GtaGekkerd 1 year ago
@GtaGekkerd totaly real, google chernobyl. sad isn't it.
danimatt1223 1 year ago
@danimatt1223 Yeah i know the reactor is real blow but this movie is all this real?
GtaGekkerd 1 year ago
@GtaGekkerd: the skeleton of facts presented is real; some of the scenes are overplayed (kids collapsing in the streets, that didn't happen; the threat if they dropped water on the reactor is way overstated, though it certainly would not have been good). The dialog is fictional, but probably not far off the mark.
puncheex 1 year ago
@puncheex Oh i see you can see it! the new peaces got better qualtity the old are Black and white!
GtaGekkerd 1 year ago
can someone please explain to me why the poeple in charge were such thick heads, i mean how stupid can they be, why were they denying the truth that the disaster was thousands of times worse?
03MARA01 1 year ago
@03MARA01: With the exception of the main character, none off them were very knowledgeable about the technical aspects, and those that were didn't know about the other similar reeactors that had failed, and why. They were all (including him) Soviet bureaucrats, a system that discouraged individual thought and risk taking. They were charged with making the USSR economically better than the western nations with one hand and leg tied behind them and marbles in their mouths.
puncheex 1 year ago
sad story..
MyXboxFreak 1 year ago
This series is really well done! Thank you for this video posting!
oakbooks 1 year ago
would you have Japs talking with an Australian accent in a movie about Pearl Harbour???? Really? Just a joke. This must have been to stroke the egos of the producers. Fucking sad...makes me sick to be an actor when I see this crap. Mastabatory art.
makthnife 1 year ago
politicians in a nutshell "to them the bigger threat is the invisible one, more dangerous than the known one" they are more afraid of loosing their power in society than accepting the measure of the catastrophy... they should be shot!
DobermannPharaoh 1 year ago
The tragedy here isn't the destruction of the reactor core. the true tragedy is the murder or an entire city o people because an administration wanted to escape embarrassment. i believe this is the peak of human arrogance. when you are willing to let people lose their lives without warning you are nothing less than evil . I understand the USSR was a very different country but there is no excuse. these people are as heartless as the nazis in my mind. the only difference is this was an accident .
mariopot789 1 year ago
@mariopot789: Oh, but you do see the very same thing happening here in the US, and I imagine in all countries. Government brass will often do something stupid and then classify it in order to keep the details from he public. If you don't think it does happen here, you're being played for a fool.
puncheex 1 year ago
you can see chernobyl on google earth and its scary to see it their and the red forest and everything . it even says alienation zone...Chernobyl and pripyat fucking scare and disturb me deeply...just the feeling that people went in and never came out of chernobyl is deeply disturbing......fucking dementedly scary...
Evilsnowman2213 1 year ago
@Evilsnowman2213 wers the frost?? i cant find it? is it at the powerplant?
thecastman97 1 year ago
@Evilsnowman2213: What people are you referring to?
puncheex 1 year ago
lol i thought of the movie hot tub time machine when they had the chernobly drink and they wer threatning to blow it up by opening the can ahaha
thecastman97 1 year ago
if many people did die in or near the reactor i wonder if there are still bodies there
or bones....im pretty sure they didnt have the time to take out all the dead
sliptodaknot91 1 year ago
@sliptodaknot91: No, there's not. There are a few who disappeared while fighting the fire; they either fell or were overcome by smoke. No visible bodies.
The exploded reactor was one of four operating (were to be six). The other three continued operating, the last one was stopped ten years later. That means there were people in the plant operating it for ten years after the accident.
puncheex 1 year ago
im scared to go there for a tour, well after watching this
1985woooman 1 year ago
@1985woooman this happened in 1986 it is more than safe enough to take walking tours these days and even this most the radiation lies outside in the woods and it is safer too be inside buildings since most windows where close during the explosion....you would be safe.....i would go digging holes in the ground or anything but it poses no threat to walk around other wise im sure the government wouldnt let tourist in
sliptodaknot91 1 year ago
@sliptodaknot91 i know, but remember, that if we cant repopulate there in another 1000 years about, i mean, its it hasn't eve been 30 years. gets me worried, but im still going to do whatever i have to do to visit,
1985woooman 1 year ago
@1985woooman special suit?
thecastman97 1 year ago
@thecastman97 probably, it would be kind of awkward having that thing on while other tourist are watching
1985woooman 1 year ago
@1985woooman do u want to see 20 year old human skeleton or not?
thecastman97 1 year ago
@sliptodaknot91: I don't know where you may have gotten this information. The bulk of the radioactive materials remain inside the sarcophagus. The plant buildings outside that were cleaned and used for ten years following the accident. Outside, its OK almost everywhere for short periods as long as you don't dig things up. In 200 years all the site except for the sarcophagus will be OK for industrial use; that will require 20,000 years without any remediation.
puncheex 1 year ago
Politics ftw
ShinobiBoiX 1 year ago
01:10
AND NOT A SINGLE FUCK WAS GIVEN THAT DAY.
cptobvious64 1 year ago
With how arrogant and prideful they depict the leaders in this film reminds me of the anti communist smear campaign we all got to enjoy in the 80s.
MrKevMan 1 year ago
@MrKevMan
Hmm... very rarely in the teleplay is the name of the Party invoked (though the word Soviet is used once or twice). I see the crux of this docudrama as being a warning against secrecy no matter what the political stripe - not necessarily an attack on nuclear power, or on Soviet communism.
turricaned 1 year ago
its funny after so many years after the end of the cold war people can't let go of all the propaganda no matter what 'side' they think they're on, like they're programmed robots
fecalbell 1 year ago
Never trust an Russian, they all are criminals.ww2,remember? They kill millions of polish, Romanians and steal their ancient land.
reeven2003 1 year ago
@reeven2003 hahaha true man, true.
And don't forget what happens in Battlefield Bad Company 2 !
svitri2 1 year ago
@reeven2003 the russians killed the polish? YAY I LOVE YOU RUSSIANS THANKYOU FOR KILLING THOSE UGLY POLISH YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYY I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU IOVE YOU
starryeyedfangirl 2 weeks ago
never trust a fat ukrainian
Pawnbroker00 1 year ago
Nuclear energy is by far the best way to generate electricity, but it has to be done safely, otherwise this typical russian clusterfuck shit will happen.
seid0067 1 year ago 24
@seid0067 but there will always be mistakes. there will eventually be another nuclear meltdown.
damodub 1 year ago
@seid0067 True,and the idiotic leaders wouldn't believe the reactor's gong despite
ALL the evidence.True idiots
91770158 1 year ago
@seid0067 What about all the nuclear waste? All the radiation emitting from all of the spend fuel rods, contaminated materials will take thousands of years to lose their half life. No one wants this stuff in their backyard. You cant control radiation.
speakingintongues9 1 year ago
@seid0067 it might be the best, but where do we put all the waste???
TheDukeofVampires 1 year ago
@seid0067
"Nuclear energy is by far the best way to generate electricity,"
oh, is it? how so? based on the what? let me guess: an episode of the simpsons
TwiceCitizen 1 year ago 2
@TwiceCitizen Well said.
kzam717 1 year ago
@TwiceCitizen
Based on it being, you know, one of the cleanest and THE most practically efficient source of power known to mankind?
Did you know france gets 72% of their power from nuclear energy and they've never had a major incident?
Bayc0n 1 year ago