A reliable source at city hall said there was a link between LHO and Jack Ruby Oswald's murder was to shut him up......whatever became of that reliable source? I bet he/she didn't live long.
ruby swam in the swamps of the underworld both in chicago and dallas- he sent guns to lewis mcwillie in cuba when the mob ran cuba with batista- ruby attempted to help the mob out after castro took over- he contacted a gun runner down in mcallen texas - the dude had castro connections. ruby's phone calls to mob connected guys -hiring strippers from the marcello network- ruby was a payoff man for the police in dallas- guys like this don't cry and get patriotic all of a sudden and go shoot oswald
Another great source of info is LBJ: The Mastermind of JFK's Assassination by Phillip Nelson.
Point is - LBJ had to eliminate JFK to become president, as JFK was ready to dump him from the ticket. Also, LBJ had that slimeball J. Edgar Hoover in his back pocket, to oversee the entire coverup.
All you have to do is read Blood Money and Power by Barr McClellan and you will get all the answers as to who did it. Amazing read. Makes absolute total sense !!
LBJ was behind the killing of JFK so he could become President. Read the book.
@garyouch "Blood Money and Power by Barr McClellan"
Nice source, a man who admitted he forged a $35K Deed of Trust which got him disbarred from the practice of law. Better get a more reliable source hillbilly Barr got dis-Barred !
the connections between ruby and oswald were quashed-just look at the background and contacts of ruby -a ten year old kid could figure this out. and then a corrupt texan takes over and hoover's buddies corrupt oil buddies in texas have a toast. da fix was in brother!
Oswald may well have been attempting to protect Kennedy and was eliminated after being a patsy wasn't good enough to keep him quiet. His time in Russia lead to Gary Powers alleged shoot down... now likely staged to gain an advantage over the Soviet military. Lots going on...
@shermnduke "LHO may well have been attempting to protect JFK"
~ I never knew 7 out of 10 Americans hated JFK so much that they would attempt such feeble minded scenario's to exonerate his murderer and try to incriminate 1000 of loyal and innocent American's in his place
~ Most if not all CONspiracy Apologists hypothesis border on being criminally insane
It was a CIA op from start to finish. The only proof you need is to look at who was on the Warren Commission. When you have the prime suspects in a crime doing the investigating themselves, their conclusion is PROBABLY not going to be that THEY are the ones who committed the crime. Oswald was just what he said he was: a patsy. Oswald's murder is as much a tragedy as Kennedy's. It amazes me that there are still people willing to give the benefit of the doubt to this piece of shit government.
@autoad - You are clearly a disinfo troll. I suggest you alter your approach, because your tactics are tired and inefficient. Oh by the way, you're the one who has been "hammering away at your keyboard posting messages on YouTube." You are transparent and pathetic. THE CIA KILLED JFK.
Do you expect to change the government when you post goofy messages about the CIA killing the president and you offer no evidence?
Nobody in the government is getting too worried if they were to read your crazy comment about the CIA. They're likely to be laughing hysterically and find your postings amusing...that's assuming they're even reading it.
@autoad - You know what? Perhaps I was wrong about you. Maybe you're not a government disinfo troll. Maybe you're just a pathetic nobody, who genuinely believes the U.S. government, whenever they issue their specially sanctioned, "comprehensive" and thorough "investigations" on various incidents and "accidents." People like you are a dime a dozen: they want to be a part of the it crowd, so they fervently parrot whatever their slavemasters tell them is the truth. It's sad really. CIA KILLED JFK.
@LongLiveOx I really don't care what you think of me. I've been called worse. But you can also call me is a reformed believer in a conspiracy against JFK. I once thought the way you think about what happened in Dallas. I had my suspicions even before I saw the Zapruder film on television. To me, the head shot clearly came from the front. About 20 years, after watching the film JFK with a friend, I was very angry about the assassination and how could our government allow an injustice like that to
@autoad - Here's the bottom line: The official story (or stories, depending on whether you believe the Warren Report, which said Oswald acted alone, or the HSCA Report, which said it was a probable conspiracy), cannot be trusted because there were major conflicts of interest. Was the Warren Commission REALLY ever going to put out a conclusion which may have said that the murder was orchestrated by elements within the US government? Of course not. Not when it's easier to pin it on one person.
@LongLiveOx There's no way one can know what the WC would or would not do regarding "internal elements" being involved with the assassination. There isn't a way to determine that and to definitively say they would or would not have included that in their report is purely speculative. I don't have a problem with people speculating on various matters about the assassination. Speculation is part of the process of conducting an investigation.
@LongLiveOx go unpunished. I also began to read different material about the assassination. Material that didn't have the "conspiracy" theme. I'd say the book that got me thinking differently was "American Grotesque". It's about the Shaw trial and how Jim Garrison abused the legal system (I know you don't want to hear that but it's true) I also began to ask myself a question that all believers of conspiracy should ask;
"How come there are so many different theories? All of them can't be right".
@autoad - When you choose to believe a specific theory, you MUST pay close attention to who it is that is telling you this theory. Rather than just latch onto what a specific writer claims happened, take a look at the OFFICIAL investigations. And ask yourself the question: why did the HSCA recommend that the Department of Justice investigate the assassination further, yet it was never done? Who has the power to override them? Investigate not just the murder, but who was on the Warren Commission.
@autoad - And just because there are so many different theories, doesn't by turn, make the official theory correct. That is a well known ploy by the CIA: create as much confusion as possible, so that nothing can be confirmed, nothing can be ruled out, and no one's quite sure what actually occurred.
@autoad - And you mentioned the many books that have been written, promoting conspiracy theories. Well, I found it interesting that when the movie "JFK" came out, and people really started questioning the assassination, all of a sudden, we were bombarded by books and tv specials, about what a speed-addicted womanizer JFK was. Like "oh, he was a scumbag anyway." The CIA-contaminated media! It's bad enough they had to physically assassinate him; they then had to character assassinate him, as well.
@LongLiveOx After reading the work of Mark lane, Jim Marrs, James Lifton, Robert Groden and others, it occurred to me that all these books were being written for the sole purpose of making money. There was no pursuit of truth in any of this stuff!
Other material was read (and you'll hate it) "Case Closed", "Legend", "The Assassination Chronicles", "Marina and Lee", "Reclaiming History". Many of the books provide background to the assassination. I especially like "Marina and Lee" because
@LongLiveOx McMilan knew Oswald, she wrote the book with the assistance of Marina and she knew JFK. She worked in his office as a researcher when he was in the Senate. She was a reporter in Moscow and heard about LHO. She contacted him and interviewed him at length and wrote about him for a newspaper in the States.
Now, you can continue to get mad at me, call me names, accuse me of being a troll or paid by the government. None of that is true. And you can continue to firmly believe there was a
@LongLiveOx conspiracy by the CIA or anyone else you'd like to accuse. But it's not unreasonable for an average citizen of the USA like me, to ask for the evidence to support your claim. Because all your doing is making a lot of noise and sounding silly.
Or, you can challenge your own beliefs and look at other material that doesn't support a "conspiracy" but rather looks at the facts and evidence available and arrives at a different conclusion.
@LongLiveOx i think oswald managed to get off one shot..after that it was a turkey shoot with serveral gunmen.thats why he says he was a patsy cause he was the only one allowed to be caught.
"Lee Oswald was totally, unequivocally, completely innocent of the assassination. And the fact that history -- or in the rewriting of history -- has made a villain of this young man, who wanted nothing more than to be a fine Marine, is in some ways the greatest injustice of all." --Jim Garrison, District Attorney of New Orleans, interviewed in the documentary, The Men Who Killed Kennedy: Part 4
The building was under armed guard, yet some convict pimp was positioned two feet by Oswald to put a gun in his gut. Vatican, CIA, Mafia. Cop was sacrificed for Illuminati to stall/distract to get shooter in place. Lee Harvey Oswald was just the patsy.
The jews murdered Kennedy. Jack Ruby told William Kunstler that 'I did this that they wouldn't implicate Jews.' to 'Protect American Jews from a pogrom that couldoccur because of anger over the assassination.'(Kunstler, My Life as a Radical Lawyer, 1994, p. 158). Arlen Specter (jew) came up with the magic bullet theory. Israeli journalist Barry Chamish said JFK Jr. read Michael Piper's (2004) book the Final Judgment and was murdered before he addressed those facts in George Magazine.
Oswald Was Denied Legal Representation was Deliberately Excommunicated from The Press and his Family by The Dallas Police, and allowed to be Slaughtered like a Dog in Cold Blood in front of Millions of Viewers.This is The Greatist injustice in The History of Civilized Law.
@binslick I never condone a murder, Sad thing is, i bet he didn't just wake up and decide to kill JFK, he was probably paid in some way, or had his family threatend by a large organization, There is tons of possibilities, I'd just like to know WHY JFK was killed, He was a compassionate man.
@ORCSTR Oswald had no motive to kill JFK. He was an admirer of the president.and said so on various occasions. I believe Oswald was the patsy as he himself declared and the evidence for his conviction is purely circumstantial at best. JFK was killed because he opposed the policies of the invisible Govt. He wanted to end our involvement in Vietnam. He made peace with Russia. This events did not go well with dark forces controlling America.
@binslick Well, I'm a firm believer in the Illuminati, Call me crazy, but all the organizations behind it, are probably the reason, i knew of JFK making peace with Russia, and ending our tour in Vietnam, But I'd really like to know, who called for it.
@binslick LHO was never denied legal representation and he was brought in front of the press on ten separate occasions. Due to rumors that he was being abused by the police he was brought out in front of the press in the assembly room. This is known as the "midnight press conference".
There is no Constitutional requirement that the accused has access to the press or the press have access to the accused
LHO was guilty as sin of two murders in Dallas in November of '63.
@autoad Oswald was questioned for hours and no lawyer present.. they denied him a legal defense of his choice. the Dallas police lied when they claim he was offered legal defense!! and There is no evidence Oswald killed anyone on Nov. of '63. The so called evidence against him is purely circumstantial and a skilled defense lawyer would have acquitted him in a court of law. Go to ctka.net and see Jim Dieugenio.website.
@binslick I'm not going to waste my time showing you how wrong you are with everything in your dumb posting!
You entire posting is 100% wrong, wrong, wrong. I doubt if you're even read one book on the assassination and all you're doing is parroting the disproven Loonspiracy crap from ages past.
@autoad I've read many books on the assassination including the one by Vincent Bugliosi. Also It appears All you're doing is parroting the disproven Oswald did it all alone unfounded theory. If you think my posting is dumb then please don't bother to answer my post. Am not going to waste my time on intellectually bankrupt people.
@autoad There is no evidence Oswald ordered the rifle or handle it anytime prior to Nov.22,1963. Numerous witness place Oswald in the 2nd floor lunchroom 10 to 15 minutes before the shooting.. No one saw Oswald carry any weapon into the depository. What time did he have to create the so called snipers nest? How did he make it time to the 2nd floor lunchroom within 90 seconds of the shooting after descending four flights of stairs from the sixth floor. doesn't make sense.
@binslick The weapon was disassembled and wrapped in paper and sealed with tape. It was on the back seat of Buell Frazier's car the morning he and LHO went to the TSBD. Frazier saw him carry it into the TSBD. The paper was found on the 6th floor. The paper and tape were forensically matched to the paper and tape in the TSBD. Fibers from LHO's shirt matched fibers found in the seam between the butt and stock of the rifle. They were new, clean and fresh. LHO ordered the rifle under the name Hidel
@autoad A disassembled Carcano is 36'' inches long. According to Frazier's testimony Oswald carried the package by one end under his arm the other cup under his palm. Oswald had to be 6 feet or have very long arms. The package was too short for a disassembled Carcano. On March 1963 the time that Oswald allegedly ordered the rifle records show that all those time are accounted for. Oswald had no time to purchase the Money Order to buy the rifle.
@binslick You'll find that Buell Frazier stated in the trial of Oswald, held in London back in the mid 80's , that he (Frazier) paid little attention to the way Oswald was carrying the package. Let's assume for a moment LHO wasn't carrying the Mannlicher into the TSBD. What was he carrying then?
The accounting for his time is bogus. It's not possible to reconstruct the whereabout of a person for the period of a month and account for there activity for every minute of the day for 24 hours.
@autoad Frazier's sister said he carried that way as well.What was he carrying?Well it wasn't the rifle,no evidence it was ever even in that bag!None!
@TheGatorfan93 I guess you'd be satisfied he was carrying a rifle if it was in a clear plastic bag. Other than that, you're going to deny he was carrying one even though there's a boatload of incriminating physical evidence showing he was..
Using your logic, if a person walked through your front door carrying and umbrella that was wet, wearing shoes that were wet, a raincoat that was wet, heard the sound of thunder, saw lightening you'd say there's no evidence it was raining.
No,i would be satisfied if you could prove he carried the rifle to work,or that there was any physical evidence the rifle was in that bag!50 years later...still waiting on that.Boatload of physical evidence?LOL,there is nothing...no proof he had the rifle in that bag,no proof he fired it that day! That's why no one will listen to lone nutters on this case,they try to act as the voice of reason,but they're even bigger hypocrites than crazy CT'ers.
@autoad Frazier was himself a suspect in the what the Dallas police thought thenwas a communist conspiracy to kill President Kennedy. They even told him that if he signed a confession he might avoid the death penalty. He probably was induced to come up w the story out of fear. His sister went along. Their concession to the truth was to describe the package as a foot too short to hold the rifle, and the bag cops found did not look like what they supposedly saw.
@autoad No one(else) saw Lee with any package that day but Frazier and his sister, No one else going to work saw Lee enter the bldg with a package or walk across a parking lot the size of a football field holding any package. The FBI lab could find no forensic evidence whatsoever that the rifle was ever in the bag the police supposedly found in book depository, but did not photograph at the crime scene.
@TrueNovice But the rifle had fibers that matched the fibers from his shirt between the butt plate and stock. The fibers found inside the bag matched the fibers from the blanket from Ruth Paine's garage. His fingerprints were found on the trigger guard. A man matching his description was seen holding the rifle in the 6th story window. He was seen firing the rifle. He was seen standing in the window, for a moment holding the rifle after the 3rd shot. The bag was made from the same paper from
@autoad How did the fibers get the rifle? Dallas police threw everything, all the evidence into one box and shipped to DC FBI destroying much of it's evidentiary value. And even then fiber evidence is not conclusive.
@autoad You presume his guilt and you grasp at any straw that supports your preconception ignoring all the lies the authorities have told and their obvious concealments - no notes were kept by the police, a palm print announced after the suspect is murdered in police custody.
My open-mindedness allowed me to change my beliefs that JFK was killed by a conspiracy.
A little common sense along with facts got me to think about the assassination in a new light. I'm pleased to say that my change in heart was a result of my own initiative.
@TrueNovice I've faced an avalanche of verbal assaults from CT'ers with vicious name-calling, threats, personal attacks on me as well as family members, cursing and bullying.
What's odd is I never faced these assaults from the single shooter crowd when I held an opposite point of view. The CT'ers appear to have a monopoly on launching the verbal abuse.
@autoad Oswald says "they have not charged me with that yet," and the word "yet" becomes a confession of guilt.I think you are probably just projecting your mental problems I say I disagree with you and you say I am threatening you and your family.
@autoad I point out the conflicts of interest that the so-called witnesses had against Oswald and your repeat the same thing again. The Warren report said he left less than 20 dollars, he took off his wedding ring and replaced with his Marine Corp ring. Something is seriously wrong with the way you think, it's certainly not being open minded or objective.
@TrueNovice Well it's apparent that any witness that doesn't support Oswald you automatically dismiss.
So you're going to dismiss the Warren Commission report because there's a dispute on how much money Oswald left for Marina?
You must have missed my earlier posting about my open-mindedness. In typical fashion, you dismiss my opinion because it doesn't conform to your conspiracy minded conclusions.
@autoad Nutters say he was leaving all his worldly possession and this indicated conscious knowledge of what he was going to do.Oswald left some money to support his family. I think it reflects well on him. So what? I respect the nutters opinion and it's always good for a laugh how they grasp any straw that's available.
@TrueNovice Nutters don't have to grasp at straws to prove anything. The Warren Report is the official report of what happened in Dallas so the work is already done.
The HSCA for all intents and purposes supported the finding of the WR.
The trial of LHO in London verified the findings too.
So go ahead and hold your breath, stomp your feet and have a temper tantrum about the ironclad evidence that convicts LHO. It's not going to change unless you CTers come up with some evidence. LOL:)
@autoad Lee was trying to reconcile w the wife. She said Lee talked about getting an apartment where they could all live after he got back on his feet. She was not receptive to the idea.
@autoa Why that rifle of all the more widely available more accurate rifles in the world? Well they had nothing else to work with. The plot to kill JFK in Chicago failed. The former US Marine Valee/patsy was arrested by the local cops. They had no other rifle to link Oswald with, except the World War II Italian relic, which a civilian could not find ammunition for in Dallas, if his life depended on it. And of course no additional ammunition was found on Oswald or among his known possessions.
@TrueNovice You didn't answer the question and the reply you gave is pure bunk. Not stitch of evidence to back it up! Pure conjecture and supposition posing as facts.
@autoad No it's all facts. They never found any Carcano ammunition on Oswald or among his possessions and the FBI checked hundreds of gun stores and sporting shops in a desperate effort to show it was even possible for a civilian to purchase it. The rifle was designed in the 1800's and it became the rifle of the Italian infantry. The rifle was sent to a post office box that was under surveillance. It would have been relatively easy to intercept the big package it came in.
Why would the mysterious "them" try to frame Oswald by planting a cheap rifle in the TSBD AND plant a rifle where "a civilian could not find ammunition"?
Huh??!! Plant a type of rifle where the ammo is unavailable???
@autoad The rifle that was linked to Oswald was not very good, and it was impossible to find ammunition for it. But that was all there was to work with. The FBI checked hundreds of gun shops and could not find where it could be bought by Oswald. So, the rifle was not fully loaded and no ammunition was found on Oswald's person or among his known possessions.
@autoad Only 5 6.5mm cartridges are presented in this case, 3 found at the 6th fl window of the TSBD and 1 live bullet ejected from MC found on the same floor. Another unidentifiable from the attempt on Gen Walker. So, Oz according your theories had that ammo as far back as April 10, 1963 when he supposedly shot at retired Gen. Walker. So where'd he get the ammo and what happened to the rest of it?
@TrueNovice Frazier saw Oswald carry the large package into the TSBD. Oswald told the police he only carried his lunch bag into work. LHO lied
Frazier told the police that Lee said the package on the back seat contained curtain rods. Oswald told the police that Frazier was mistaken and never said anything about curtain rods. LHO lied
Why did LHO have to get curtain rods on a Thursday evening? Why didn't he go to the Paine's Friday like he had always done before?
@autoad No record in the Warren report of any find of Lee's fingerprint on the the trigger Dallas Police Lt.Day claimed to have found a palm print on the rifle when it was disassembled on the 1st day of the murder. None of the Dallas Detectives or FBI agent he talked to remember him telling them this. And is own assistant would not sign an affidavit backing him up. Oswald was never asked about it, and this information was only released after Lee's murder. Highly suspicious.
@TrueNovice the roll of paper and the tape dispenser from the TSBD. The rifle was acquired by LHO using the alias Hidell. Marina knew of the rifle and had seen him operating the bolt action repeatedly. Marina knew he kept the rifle wrapped in the blanket in the garage at Ruth Paine's house. It was Marina who directed the FBI to the blanket when they arrived at the Paine house. The police found the bag at the TSBD before they spoke to Buell Frazier and his sister.
@autoad Read the testimony. FBI no forensic evidence that the rifle was ever in the bag allegedly found by the cops. Frazier said the cop's bag was not the bag he supposedly saw.He described bag as a foot too short to hold the rifle. Marina denied seeing the rifle for 6 months and when told she would be deported back to the USSR cooperated by claiming to see Lee with rifle.
@TrueNovice But none of what your posting discounts a fact that cannot be refuted.
Somehow Lee's rifle found its way into the TSBD. He said the package he was carrying contained curtain rods and no curtain rods were found at the Depository. Ruth Paine said Lee never had any conversation with her that involved curtain rods.
The bag was found before Buell Frazier and his sister were interviewed. Clearly the police could not have fashioned a bag before they spoke to them. How would the police have
@autoad No big deal to find a paper bag in a warehouse that wraps boxes. Again Frazier and his sis are the only "witness" to the mysterious package if it existed at all. They described it as way too small to hold the rifle. If you read the 1962 Operation Northwoods at the National Security Archives at GWU the US Military had plans to frame innocent Americans withing for crimes they didn't commit, so they certainly had the capacity to do so.
@autoad Oz went home early to see his wife to try and reconcile with her, And since he had only recently found work to leave her a few dollars to care for their 2 daughters. There was a party scheduled at the Paine's that weekend and Lee did'nt want to be in the way.. You need to ask the Frazier about the curtain rods. He's the only one to see the package. No one else did or claimed to.
The fact remains he went home early, he left his wedding ring at the house, most of his money with a note to get Junie some shoes. They found his rifle at his work. The rifle was missing at the house.
It doesn't take too much to realize that he got the rifle, shot Kennedy, hid the rifle, fled the scene etc etc.
Guilty as sin.
But you can keep on denying all you want. It won't change a thing.
@autoad Marina also told the WC that Lee was so weak she was able to prevent Lee from leaving the bathroom by holding the door shut from the outside. By doing so she saved the life of then future President Richard Milhouse Nixon.
@autoad The bag was supposedly found near the sniper's layer, but the police did not photograph it. In the WC exhibits it is a shown as a dotted line where it was supposedly found. There is no evidence whatsoever that this bag ever held a rifle.
@binslick LHO's handwriting was matched to the order form. Marina photographed him with the rifle, pistol . the camera used was matched forensically to the negatives found in Ruth Paine's garage. LHO filled one order that day at the TDBD. If he arrived for work at 9:00 am he had 3 1/2 hour window of opportunity to build the nest. His finger/palm prints were found on many of the boxes. His decent from the 6th floor was recreated and it cam be done with ease and time to spare. LHO.. guilty as sin!
@autoad Oswald's decent was recreated without using facts by the fbi.Baker jogged in his recreation,he didn't sprint,which was verified in the couch film.Nice try
See video: JFK Assassination - Pink Rose - A song about Jackie.
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At 1:30-34 see the man in white shirt & hat/helmet next to the light pole.
All the people after him going toward the bridge do not match # of people & clothes color on the Z film. People are dubbed in on the Z film, proving alterations.
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And all 4 cycle cops are not always behind the limo, as the Z film implies. We would have seen at least the right-side cycle cops shoulders / heads / helmets.
Does anybody know a video on youtube or to google, to see the interior of the TSBD? I mean: how many elevators? how many stairs (to escape?)? Interesting to know. To see drawings (architecture). It is all concentrated on that "snipers den", but not some information on the whole building. I know that it is a museum now, but for me it's a long way to Texas. A state that is great!
Tippit to kll oswald he figured it out when the killing of kennedy took place before he would be involved then he panicked and knew he was set up for this he was an ametuer dealing with persons that did this kinda stuff as a job classification.People are sheep you can divide and conquer easy in this country.
No evidence that Oswald gunned down Tippet. Anything claimed by the Warren Commission was a fabrication. The person who shot Tippet was probably after Oswald to silence him.
My father is good friend's with a club owner in Waco, TX that happens to know a restaurant owner, Corky Campisi, in Dallas, TX. He told me Corky stated his father took cigarettes to Oswald while he was in jail. The Campisi's are a known mafia family. I thought that was interesting.
Obviously, he was afraid that she'd be killed accidentally. There was a major fight between Kennedy and Johnson the night before the assassination. LBJ wanted his hated enemy, Sen. Ralph Yarborough to ride with Kennedy, for the obvious reasons. Connally knew what was going to happen and looked nervous and distracted through most of the motorcade.
Oh common! You BELIEVE the words of a convicted murderer? When he said he did it for jackie he wasn't convicted yet, and was more likely to be believed. So he told the truth then.
You actually believe the crap they feed you on the internet, don't you? Have you even READ the Warren Commission volumes? Or done some serious research at the JFK Assassination Library? Or do you just watch documentaries and accept everything others tell you? Do your own checking. You'll find out that for every fact you have to support silly conspiracies, there is clear evidence that CONTRADICTS them (like that fingerprint of LBJ's associate [Mike Wallace]).
HeLLLoo!!! Where did you get that silly info? On the NET again? For your REAL info:
1) Ann Mercer never claimed she did not recognize the driver. Her subsequent RECONFIRMATION of the positive identification in 1974 (and that it wasn't Ruby she saw and she signed the statement) is found in the JFK achives.
Mercer also indicated her so-called contradictions was probably due to her being interviewed while in hospital and under sedation back in 1966.
@045781: and that was a 100% fingerprint match! A man who had killed at least one person (official), his name = M. Wallace. And this evidence (fingerprint) just slowly vanished, and was more or less forgotten in the investigation ust like it was washed in a washing-machine....................?
The Warren Commission investigation represented a threat to toilet paper manufacturers.The manufactures of toilet paper anguish & predicament turns out to be the metaphor for understanding the aftermath of used toilet paper.The entire vast apparatus of the USG had been put in motion to cover-up their involvement in the assassination.But once the facts pointed overwhelmingly to USG involvement. The cover-up had to protect individuals and bureaucracies.
Want to see the Cuban JFK assassin conspirator, David Sanchez Morales, Operations Chief for CIA JMWAVE, and in the CIA assassination group ZR/RIFLE?
Then look at the Zapruder film.
See Morales dressed in white clothes across the street, just after the freeway sign, and wearing a black type of bullet proof vest. He holds out his arm and then lowers it.
Before Kevlar was developed in 1965, a bullet proof vest material can look like that worn by Morales.
so lemme get this straight...oswald, who is an american citizen, got killed before he had a case to defend by some random citizen who happened to be carrying a gun? interesting...
I watched this live, sitting on the couch in our living room. I was 8. I was glad he got shot at the time, but now I wish the bastard had gone on trial.
No motherfucker I am HALF-American. The other half is. . .oh fuck it's ENGLISH. From some place called Hampshire.I guess that side is where I get all the worst qualities from, and your'e living proof that monkeys can write.
Yeah you do that fuckhead. I'm sure you tell him EVERYTHING. There's no great virtue in being RC; quitting that fucked-up church was best thing my C of E mother ever did. But you go ahead man, you open yourself to him, you lay it bare buddy, I'm sure he'll be all over that
The mob doesnt have snipers, they would contract out , and no doubt the Gov. and the mob has list of pros they utilize . the ONLY people who could cover up wld B the Gov., so why wld they cover up for the mob ,Doesn't make sense .
The mob doesn't control the history channel , or the Times, or the CIA connected Post . Opps , guess there's more than one type of mob.
this man wouldnt be dead if he never attempted the bay of pigs in cuba...he pissed off the Mob because they had casinos over there...so they took care of him and his brother
Oh Jesus, Corleone, your statement could not be anymore wrong!! look at the facts: Watch the Zapruder footage of Kennedy being shot , bullets hitting him from the front!.Therefore we have IRREFUTABLE evidence that there was more than one shooter that day, & yet nobody has ever been brought to justice. They all 'got away with it'. Silly boy!
Johnson killed Kennedy, and thousands of men in Vietnam. That fucker's rotting in hell right now. 'nuff said.
Drummer1981 1 month ago
This Evil LBJ statement WE believe refers to the murder of JFK
"It is the Melancholy law of human societies to be compeled sometimes to chose a great evil in order to ward off a greater evil"
YOU want to see a guilty MAN? check this out , = LBJ coments on JFK assasination 1969.wmv
cruisersism 4 months ago
@ 3:00 ... An investigation by the DPD that jack ruby knew oswald and obviously, was stopped.
LiftAngry 7 months ago
The anchorman @ 1:41 looks helluva lot like LHO.
LiftAngry 7 months ago
@LiftAngry
i thought the same ..... you´re damn right !
pumpui63 7 months ago
miss you grandpa...R.I.P Robert Walker (man on the phone in the begining)
chicagosoxs 7 months ago
it pisses me off soooo badly that we will never really know the absolute facts.
mortimer2100 8 months ago
A reliable source at city hall said there was a link between LHO and Jack Ruby Oswald's murder was to shut him up......whatever became of that reliable source? I bet he/she didn't live long.
robertmastroianni 8 months ago
I like how at :37 seconds the man was about to say "Jack Ruby" and the news anchor got mad and covered up the microphone!
robertmastroianni 8 months ago
I like how at :37 seconds the man was about to say "Jack Ruby" and the news anchor got mad and covered up the microphone!
robertmastroianni 8 months ago
ruby swam in the swamps of the underworld both in chicago and dallas- he sent guns to lewis mcwillie in cuba when the mob ran cuba with batista- ruby attempted to help the mob out after castro took over- he contacted a gun runner down in mcallen texas - the dude had castro connections. ruby's phone calls to mob connected guys -hiring strippers from the marcello network- ruby was a payoff man for the police in dallas- guys like this don't cry and get patriotic all of a sudden and go shoot oswald
larrywheels 9 months ago 2
JFK had Addison's Disease . Look up the treatment for this. Lifelong doses of steroids.
isortparcels 9 months ago
Another great source of info is LBJ: The Mastermind of JFK's Assassination by Phillip Nelson.
Point is - LBJ had to eliminate JFK to become president, as JFK was ready to dump him from the ticket. Also, LBJ had that slimeball J. Edgar Hoover in his back pocket, to oversee the entire coverup.
garyouch 9 months ago
All you have to do is read Blood Money and Power by Barr McClellan and you will get all the answers as to who did it. Amazing read. Makes absolute total sense !!
LBJ was behind the killing of JFK so he could become President. Read the book.
garyouch 9 months ago
@garyouch "Blood Money and Power by Barr McClellan"
Nice source, a man who admitted he forged a $35K Deed of Trust which got him disbarred from the practice of law. Better get a more reliable source hillbilly Barr got dis-Barred !
KookTartsBigFarts1 9 months ago
Oswald did it alone.
Ruby was a moron for killing him.
It would have been real interesting to hear what Oswald had to say in the coming days, weeks, months and years.
George Vreeland Hill
GeorgeVreelandHill 9 months ago
the connections between ruby and oswald were quashed-just look at the background and contacts of ruby -a ten year old kid could figure this out. and then a corrupt texan takes over and hoover's buddies corrupt oil buddies in texas have a toast. da fix was in brother!
larrywheels 9 months ago
@larrywheels "the connections between JR & LHO were quashed"
14 days prior to his death a reporter asked Jack Ruby
"Did LHO ever come into your establishment?
JR : "No never, it's just a fabrication"
KookTartsBigFarts1 9 months ago
Very interesting, I have never seen this before. Thank you so much for uploading.
lendir1 10 months ago
hes fuckin innocent
TheTron75 10 months ago
Oswald may well have been attempting to protect Kennedy and was eliminated after being a patsy wasn't good enough to keep him quiet. His time in Russia lead to Gary Powers alleged shoot down... now likely staged to gain an advantage over the Soviet military. Lots going on...
shermnduke 10 months ago
@shermnduke "LHO may well have been attempting to protect JFK"
~ I never knew 7 out of 10 Americans hated JFK so much that they would attempt such feeble minded scenario's to exonerate his murderer and try to incriminate 1000 of loyal and innocent American's in his place
~ Most if not all CONspiracy Apologists hypothesis border on being criminally insane
KookTartsBigFarts1 9 months ago
Emergency vehicle ready to go....
shermnduke 10 months ago
It was a CIA op from start to finish. The only proof you need is to look at who was on the Warren Commission. When you have the prime suspects in a crime doing the investigating themselves, their conclusion is PROBABLY not going to be that THEY are the ones who committed the crime. Oswald was just what he said he was: a patsy. Oswald's murder is as much a tragedy as Kennedy's. It amazes me that there are still people willing to give the benefit of the doubt to this piece of shit government.
LongLiveOx 11 months ago 3
@LongLiveOx If you feel that strongly about the government, what are you doing to change it?
It's safe to say the government isn't too worried about you sitting at home hammering away at your keyboard posting messages on YouTube.
And spare us from having to listen to the petulant whine "There's nothing anyone can do. The government is too corrupt boo hoo hooo"
"It was CIA start to finish". Really?? Then show us the evidence. That's all you have to do. Show us the evidence.
autoad 10 months ago
@autoad - You are clearly a disinfo troll. I suggest you alter your approach, because your tactics are tired and inefficient. Oh by the way, you're the one who has been "hammering away at your keyboard posting messages on YouTube." You are transparent and pathetic. THE CIA KILLED JFK.
LongLiveOx 10 months ago 2
@LongLiveOx What disinfo??
You're making the accusations against the CIA.
So show us the evidence.
Fish or Cut Bait..show us the evidence.
Do you expect to change the government when you post goofy messages about the CIA killing the president and you offer no evidence?
Nobody in the government is getting too worried if they were to read your crazy comment about the CIA. They're likely to be laughing hysterically and find your postings amusing...that's assuming they're even reading it.
autoad 10 months ago
@autoad - You know what? Perhaps I was wrong about you. Maybe you're not a government disinfo troll. Maybe you're just a pathetic nobody, who genuinely believes the U.S. government, whenever they issue their specially sanctioned, "comprehensive" and thorough "investigations" on various incidents and "accidents." People like you are a dime a dozen: they want to be a part of the it crowd, so they fervently parrot whatever their slavemasters tell them is the truth. It's sad really. CIA KILLED JFK.
LongLiveOx 10 months ago
@LongLiveOx I really don't care what you think of me. I've been called worse. But you can also call me is a reformed believer in a conspiracy against JFK. I once thought the way you think about what happened in Dallas. I had my suspicions even before I saw the Zapruder film on television. To me, the head shot clearly came from the front. About 20 years, after watching the film JFK with a friend, I was very angry about the assassination and how could our government allow an injustice like that to
autoad 10 months ago
@autoad - Here's the bottom line: The official story (or stories, depending on whether you believe the Warren Report, which said Oswald acted alone, or the HSCA Report, which said it was a probable conspiracy), cannot be trusted because there were major conflicts of interest. Was the Warren Commission REALLY ever going to put out a conclusion which may have said that the murder was orchestrated by elements within the US government? Of course not. Not when it's easier to pin it on one person.
LongLiveOx 10 months ago
@LongLiveOx There's no way one can know what the WC would or would not do regarding "internal elements" being involved with the assassination. There isn't a way to determine that and to definitively say they would or would not have included that in their report is purely speculative. I don't have a problem with people speculating on various matters about the assassination. Speculation is part of the process of conducting an investigation.
autoad 10 months ago
@LongLiveOx go unpunished. I also began to read different material about the assassination. Material that didn't have the "conspiracy" theme. I'd say the book that got me thinking differently was "American Grotesque". It's about the Shaw trial and how Jim Garrison abused the legal system (I know you don't want to hear that but it's true) I also began to ask myself a question that all believers of conspiracy should ask;
"How come there are so many different theories? All of them can't be right".
autoad 10 months ago
@autoad - When you choose to believe a specific theory, you MUST pay close attention to who it is that is telling you this theory. Rather than just latch onto what a specific writer claims happened, take a look at the OFFICIAL investigations. And ask yourself the question: why did the HSCA recommend that the Department of Justice investigate the assassination further, yet it was never done? Who has the power to override them? Investigate not just the murder, but who was on the Warren Commission.
LongLiveOx 10 months ago
@autoad - And just because there are so many different theories, doesn't by turn, make the official theory correct. That is a well known ploy by the CIA: create as much confusion as possible, so that nothing can be confirmed, nothing can be ruled out, and no one's quite sure what actually occurred.
LongLiveOx 10 months ago
@autoad - And you mentioned the many books that have been written, promoting conspiracy theories. Well, I found it interesting that when the movie "JFK" came out, and people really started questioning the assassination, all of a sudden, we were bombarded by books and tv specials, about what a speed-addicted womanizer JFK was. Like "oh, he was a scumbag anyway." The CIA-contaminated media! It's bad enough they had to physically assassinate him; they then had to character assassinate him, as well.
LongLiveOx 10 months ago 2
@LongLiveOx "The CIA-contaminated media"
~ When RFK relates how he found an empty vile of Dr. Feelgoods Vitamin Cocktail then had it tested at FBI lab
~ When SS WH log entrys show Dr. Feelgood had 26 WH visits
~ When Dr. Max Jacobson get his licence yanked for killing a person while administering Meth
I think we can safely assume the worse about JFK's drug addiction to any number of uppers and downers
KookTartsBigFarts1 9 months ago
@LongLiveOx After reading the work of Mark lane, Jim Marrs, James Lifton, Robert Groden and others, it occurred to me that all these books were being written for the sole purpose of making money. There was no pursuit of truth in any of this stuff!
Other material was read (and you'll hate it) "Case Closed", "Legend", "The Assassination Chronicles", "Marina and Lee", "Reclaiming History". Many of the books provide background to the assassination. I especially like "Marina and Lee" because
autoad 10 months ago
@LongLiveOx McMilan knew Oswald, she wrote the book with the assistance of Marina and she knew JFK. She worked in his office as a researcher when he was in the Senate. She was a reporter in Moscow and heard about LHO. She contacted him and interviewed him at length and wrote about him for a newspaper in the States.
Now, you can continue to get mad at me, call me names, accuse me of being a troll or paid by the government. None of that is true. And you can continue to firmly believe there was a
autoad 10 months ago
@LongLiveOx conspiracy by the CIA or anyone else you'd like to accuse. But it's not unreasonable for an average citizen of the USA like me, to ask for the evidence to support your claim. Because all your doing is making a lot of noise and sounding silly.
Or, you can challenge your own beliefs and look at other material that doesn't support a "conspiracy" but rather looks at the facts and evidence available and arrives at a different conclusion.
Good luck in whatever choice you make.
autoad 10 months ago
@LongLiveOx i think oswald managed to get off one shot..after that it was a turkey shoot with serveral gunmen.thats why he says he was a patsy cause he was the only one allowed to be caught.
bobeagle007 8 months ago
"Lee Oswald was totally, unequivocally, completely innocent of the assassination. And the fact that history -- or in the rewriting of history -- has made a villain of this young man, who wanted nothing more than to be a fine Marine, is in some ways the greatest injustice of all." --Jim Garrison, District Attorney of New Orleans, interviewed in the documentary, The Men Who Killed Kennedy: Part 4
mtracy9 1 year ago
The building was under armed guard, yet some convict pimp was positioned two feet by Oswald to put a gun in his gut. Vatican, CIA, Mafia. Cop was sacrificed for Illuminati to stall/distract to get shooter in place. Lee Harvey Oswald was just the patsy.
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The jews murdered Kennedy. Jack Ruby told William Kunstler that 'I did this that they wouldn't implicate Jews.' to 'Protect American Jews from a pogrom that couldoccur because of anger over the assassination.'(Kunstler, My Life as a Radical Lawyer, 1994, p. 158). Arlen Specter (jew) came up with the magic bullet theory. Israeli journalist Barry Chamish said JFK Jr. read Michael Piper's (2004) book the Final Judgment and was murdered before he addressed those facts in George Magazine.
EdMahoney19 1 year ago
Oswald did not die, it was all a show to allow him to return to his cia job
neverindoubt 1 year ago
Oswald Was Denied Legal Representation was Deliberately Excommunicated from The Press and his Family by The Dallas Police, and allowed to be Slaughtered like a Dog in Cold Blood in front of Millions of Viewers.This is The Greatist injustice in The History of Civilized Law.
binslick 1 year ago 16
@binslick I never condone a murder, Sad thing is, i bet he didn't just wake up and decide to kill JFK, he was probably paid in some way, or had his family threatend by a large organization, There is tons of possibilities, I'd just like to know WHY JFK was killed, He was a compassionate man.
ORCSTRPK 1 year ago
@ORCSTR Oswald had no motive to kill JFK. He was an admirer of the president.and said so on various occasions. I believe Oswald was the patsy as he himself declared and the evidence for his conviction is purely circumstantial at best. JFK was killed because he opposed the policies of the invisible Govt. He wanted to end our involvement in Vietnam. He made peace with Russia. This events did not go well with dark forces controlling America.
binslick 1 year ago
@binslick Well, I'm a firm believer in the Illuminati, Call me crazy, but all the organizations behind it, are probably the reason, i knew of JFK making peace with Russia, and ending our tour in Vietnam, But I'd really like to know, who called for it.
ORCSTRPK 1 year ago
@binslick LHO was never denied legal representation and he was brought in front of the press on ten separate occasions. Due to rumors that he was being abused by the police he was brought out in front of the press in the assembly room. This is known as the "midnight press conference".
There is no Constitutional requirement that the accused has access to the press or the press have access to the accused
LHO was guilty as sin of two murders in Dallas in November of '63.
autoad 11 months ago
@autoad Oswald was questioned for hours and no lawyer present.. they denied him a legal defense of his choice. the Dallas police lied when they claim he was offered legal defense!! and There is no evidence Oswald killed anyone on Nov. of '63. The so called evidence against him is purely circumstantial and a skilled defense lawyer would have acquitted him in a court of law. Go to ctka.net and see Jim Dieugenio.website.
binslick 11 months ago
@binslick I'm not going to waste my time showing you how wrong you are with everything in your dumb posting!
You entire posting is 100% wrong, wrong, wrong. I doubt if you're even read one book on the assassination and all you're doing is parroting the disproven Loonspiracy crap from ages past.
By the way, we landed on the moon.
autoad 11 months ago
@autoad I've read many books on the assassination including the one by Vincent Bugliosi. Also It appears All you're doing is parroting the disproven Oswald did it all alone unfounded theory. If you think my posting is dumb then please don't bother to answer my post. Am not going to waste my time on intellectually bankrupt people.
binslick 11 months ago
@binslick Evidently your claim is that Oswald didn't act alone. In fact you stated that his acting alone was "disproven".
(That's interesting...you said it was "disproved" that he acted alone as opposed to being "proved" he didn't)
Really?
Who disproved it?
Where's the evidence?
autoad 11 months ago
@autoad There is no evidence Oswald ordered the rifle or handle it anytime prior to Nov.22,1963. Numerous witness place Oswald in the 2nd floor lunchroom 10 to 15 minutes before the shooting.. No one saw Oswald carry any weapon into the depository. What time did he have to create the so called snipers nest? How did he make it time to the 2nd floor lunchroom within 90 seconds of the shooting after descending four flights of stairs from the sixth floor. doesn't make sense.
binslick 11 months ago
@binslick The weapon was disassembled and wrapped in paper and sealed with tape. It was on the back seat of Buell Frazier's car the morning he and LHO went to the TSBD. Frazier saw him carry it into the TSBD. The paper was found on the 6th floor. The paper and tape were forensically matched to the paper and tape in the TSBD. Fibers from LHO's shirt matched fibers found in the seam between the butt and stock of the rifle. They were new, clean and fresh. LHO ordered the rifle under the name Hidel
autoad 11 months ago
@autoad A disassembled Carcano is 36'' inches long. According to Frazier's testimony Oswald carried the package by one end under his arm the other cup under his palm. Oswald had to be 6 feet or have very long arms. The package was too short for a disassembled Carcano. On March 1963 the time that Oswald allegedly ordered the rifle records show that all those time are accounted for. Oswald had no time to purchase the Money Order to buy the rifle.
binslick 11 months ago
@binslick You'll find that Buell Frazier stated in the trial of Oswald, held in London back in the mid 80's , that he (Frazier) paid little attention to the way Oswald was carrying the package. Let's assume for a moment LHO wasn't carrying the Mannlicher into the TSBD. What was he carrying then?
The accounting for his time is bogus. It's not possible to reconstruct the whereabout of a person for the period of a month and account for there activity for every minute of the day for 24 hours.
autoad 11 months ago
@autoad Frazier's sister said he carried that way as well.What was he carrying?Well it wasn't the rifle,no evidence it was ever even in that bag!None!
TheGatorfan93 10 months ago
@TheGatorfan93 I guess you'd be satisfied he was carrying a rifle if it was in a clear plastic bag. Other than that, you're going to deny he was carrying one even though there's a boatload of incriminating physical evidence showing he was..
Using your logic, if a person walked through your front door carrying and umbrella that was wet, wearing shoes that were wet, a raincoat that was wet, heard the sound of thunder, saw lightening you'd say there's no evidence it was raining.
autoad 10 months ago
@autoad ''I guess you'd be satisfied?''
No,i would be satisfied if you could prove he carried the rifle to work,or that there was any physical evidence the rifle was in that bag!50 years later...still waiting on that.Boatload of physical evidence?LOL,there is nothing...no proof he had the rifle in that bag,no proof he fired it that day! That's why no one will listen to lone nutters on this case,they try to act as the voice of reason,but they're even bigger hypocrites than crazy CT'ers.
TheGatorfan93 10 months ago
@autoad Frazier was himself a suspect in the what the Dallas police thought thenwas a communist conspiracy to kill President Kennedy. They even told him that if he signed a confession he might avoid the death penalty. He probably was induced to come up w the story out of fear. His sister went along. Their concession to the truth was to describe the package as a foot too short to hold the rifle, and the bag cops found did not look like what they supposedly saw.
TrueNovice 10 months ago
@autoad No one(else) saw Lee with any package that day but Frazier and his sister, No one else going to work saw Lee enter the bldg with a package or walk across a parking lot the size of a football field holding any package. The FBI lab could find no forensic evidence whatsoever that the rifle was ever in the bag the police supposedly found in book depository, but did not photograph at the crime scene.
TrueNovice 10 months ago
@TrueNovice But the rifle had fibers that matched the fibers from his shirt between the butt plate and stock. The fibers found inside the bag matched the fibers from the blanket from Ruth Paine's garage. His fingerprints were found on the trigger guard. A man matching his description was seen holding the rifle in the 6th story window. He was seen firing the rifle. He was seen standing in the window, for a moment holding the rifle after the 3rd shot. The bag was made from the same paper from
autoad 10 months ago
@autoad How did the fibers get the rifle? Dallas police threw everything, all the evidence into one box and shipped to DC FBI destroying much of it's evidentiary value. And even then fiber evidence is not conclusive.
TrueNovice 10 months ago
@TrueNovice That's not true.
autoad 10 months ago
@autoad Everything you say is a projection of your mistaken belief in Oswald's guilt and is interpreted through that prism.
TrueNovice 10 months ago
@TrueNovice Sure.
A prism of facts and evidence.
autoad 10 months ago
@autoad You presume his guilt and you grasp at any straw that supports your preconception ignoring all the lies the authorities have told and their obvious concealments - no notes were kept by the police, a palm print announced after the suspect is murdered in police custody.
TrueNovice 10 months ago
@TrueNovice The straws I'm grasping at are called facts and evidence. Enough to convict LHO without any difficulty whatsoever.
autoad 10 months ago
@autoad In your closed mind maybe.
TrueNovice 10 months ago
@TrueNovice Actually, it's quite open.
My open-mindedness allowed me to change my beliefs that JFK was killed by a conspiracy.
A little common sense along with facts got me to think about the assassination in a new light. I'm pleased to say that my change in heart was a result of my own initiative.
autoad 10 months ago
@TrueNovice I've faced an avalanche of verbal assaults from CT'ers with vicious name-calling, threats, personal attacks on me as well as family members, cursing and bullying.
What's odd is I never faced these assaults from the single shooter crowd when I held an opposite point of view. The CT'ers appear to have a monopoly on launching the verbal abuse.
autoad 10 months ago
@autoad Oswald says "they have not charged me with that yet," and the word "yet" becomes a confession of guilt.I think you are probably just projecting your mental problems I say I disagree with you and you say I am threatening you and your family.
TrueNovice 10 months ago
@autoad I point out the conflicts of interest that the so-called witnesses had against Oswald and your repeat the same thing again. The Warren report said he left less than 20 dollars, he took off his wedding ring and replaced with his Marine Corp ring. Something is seriously wrong with the way you think, it's certainly not being open minded or objective.
TrueNovice 10 months ago
@TrueNovice Well it's apparent that any witness that doesn't support Oswald you automatically dismiss.
So you're going to dismiss the Warren Commission report because there's a dispute on how much money Oswald left for Marina?
You must have missed my earlier posting about my open-mindedness. In typical fashion, you dismiss my opinion because it doesn't conform to your conspiracy minded conclusions.
Well, at least you're consistent.
autoad 10 months ago
@autoad Nutters say he was leaving all his worldly possession and this indicated conscious knowledge of what he was going to do.Oswald left some money to support his family. I think it reflects well on him. So what? I respect the nutters opinion and it's always good for a laugh how they grasp any straw that's available.
TrueNovice 10 months ago
@TrueNovice Nutters don't have to grasp at straws to prove anything. The Warren Report is the official report of what happened in Dallas so the work is already done.
The HSCA for all intents and purposes supported the finding of the WR.
The trial of LHO in London verified the findings too.
So go ahead and hold your breath, stomp your feet and have a temper tantrum about the ironclad evidence that convicts LHO. It's not going to change unless you CTers come up with some evidence. LOL:)
autoad 10 months ago
@TrueNovice So Lee had plans to return to Marina and the girls?
autoad 10 months ago
@autoad Lee was trying to reconcile w the wife. She said Lee talked about getting an apartment where they could all live after he got back on his feet. She was not receptive to the idea.
TrueNovice 10 months ago
@TrueNovice OK. That's nice. But how do you explain how Lee's Mannilcher made its way into the Depository?
Let me guess...someone other than Lee brought it in.
autoad 10 months ago
@autoa Why that rifle of all the more widely available more accurate rifles in the world? Well they had nothing else to work with. The plot to kill JFK in Chicago failed. The former US Marine Valee/patsy was arrested by the local cops. They had no other rifle to link Oswald with, except the World War II Italian relic, which a civilian could not find ammunition for in Dallas, if his life depended on it. And of course no additional ammunition was found on Oswald or among his known possessions.
TrueNovice 10 months ago
@TrueNovice You didn't answer the question and the reply you gave is pure bunk. Not stitch of evidence to back it up! Pure conjecture and supposition posing as facts.
You're just plain irresponsible.
autoad 10 months ago
@autoad No it's all facts. They never found any Carcano ammunition on Oswald or among his possessions and the FBI checked hundreds of gun stores and sporting shops in a desperate effort to show it was even possible for a civilian to purchase it. The rifle was designed in the 1800's and it became the rifle of the Italian infantry. The rifle was sent to a post office box that was under surveillance. It would have been relatively easy to intercept the big package it came in.
TrueNovice 10 months ago
@TrueNovice Baloney.
And you still didn't explain how his Mannlicher got into the TSBD.
autoad 10 months ago
@autoad And no one saw Oswald bring the Mannlicher Carcano in the TSBD
TrueNovice 10 months ago
@TrueNovice
Why would the mysterious "them" try to frame Oswald by planting a cheap rifle in the TSBD AND plant a rifle where "a civilian could not find ammunition"?
Huh??!! Plant a type of rifle where the ammo is unavailable???
Your posting is absurd.
autoad 10 months ago
@autoad The rifle that was linked to Oswald was not very good, and it was impossible to find ammunition for it. But that was all there was to work with. The FBI checked hundreds of gun shops and could not find where it could be bought by Oswald. So, the rifle was not fully loaded and no ammunition was found on Oswald's person or among his known possessions.
TrueNovice 10 months ago
@TrueNovice Are you getting the "unavailable ammo" story from David Kaiser's book "The Road To Dallas"?
If not, then where?
autoad 10 months ago
@autoad Only 5 6.5mm cartridges are presented in this case, 3 found at the 6th fl window of the TSBD and 1 live bullet ejected from MC found on the same floor. Another unidentifiable from the attempt on Gen Walker. So, Oz according your theories had that ammo as far back as April 10, 1963 when he supposedly shot at retired Gen. Walker. So where'd he get the ammo and what happened to the rest of it?
TrueNovice 10 months ago
@TrueNovice Where are you getting this stuff??
autoad 10 months ago
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@autoad Getting "stuff" from Hearing and Exhibits of the Warren Commission
TrueNovice 10 months ago
@TrueNovice Hearing and Exhibits of the Warren Commission
TrueNovice 10 months ago
@TrueNovice Frazier saw Oswald carry the large package into the TSBD. Oswald told the police he only carried his lunch bag into work. LHO lied
Frazier told the police that Lee said the package on the back seat contained curtain rods. Oswald told the police that Frazier was mistaken and never said anything about curtain rods. LHO lied
Why did LHO have to get curtain rods on a Thursday evening? Why didn't he go to the Paine's Friday like he had always done before?
autoad 10 months ago
@autoad No record in the Warren report of any find of Lee's fingerprint on the the trigger Dallas Police Lt.Day claimed to have found a palm print on the rifle when it was disassembled on the 1st day of the murder. None of the Dallas Detectives or FBI agent he talked to remember him telling them this. And is own assistant would not sign an affidavit backing him up. Oswald was never asked about it, and this information was only released after Lee's murder. Highly suspicious.
TrueNovice 10 months ago
@TrueNovice the roll of paper and the tape dispenser from the TSBD. The rifle was acquired by LHO using the alias Hidell. Marina knew of the rifle and had seen him operating the bolt action repeatedly. Marina knew he kept the rifle wrapped in the blanket in the garage at Ruth Paine's house. It was Marina who directed the FBI to the blanket when they arrived at the Paine house. The police found the bag at the TSBD before they spoke to Buell Frazier and his sister.
autoad 10 months ago
@autoad Read the testimony. FBI no forensic evidence that the rifle was ever in the bag allegedly found by the cops. Frazier said the cop's bag was not the bag he supposedly saw.He described bag as a foot too short to hold the rifle. Marina denied seeing the rifle for 6 months and when told she would be deported back to the USSR cooperated by claiming to see Lee with rifle.
TrueNovice 10 months ago
@TrueNovice But none of what your posting discounts a fact that cannot be refuted.
Somehow Lee's rifle found its way into the TSBD. He said the package he was carrying contained curtain rods and no curtain rods were found at the Depository. Ruth Paine said Lee never had any conversation with her that involved curtain rods.
The bag was found before Buell Frazier and his sister were interviewed. Clearly the police could not have fashioned a bag before they spoke to them. How would the police have
autoad 10 months ago
@autoad No big deal to find a paper bag in a warehouse that wraps boxes. Again Frazier and his sis are the only "witness" to the mysterious package if it existed at all. They described it as way too small to hold the rifle. If you read the 1962 Operation Northwoods at the National Security Archives at GWU the US Military had plans to frame innocent Americans withing for crimes they didn't commit, so they certainly had the capacity to do so.
TrueNovice 10 months ago
@TrueNovice And you have ZERO evidence to support your accusation.
autoad 10 months ago
@TrueNovice Where did the curtain rods go?
How did a rifle, that matched LHOs Mannlicher find its way into the TSBD?
What happened to the rifle that was at the Paine's house? Where did ti go?
autoad 10 months ago
@autoad Oz went home early to see his wife to try and reconcile with her, And since he had only recently found work to leave her a few dollars to care for their 2 daughters. There was a party scheduled at the Paine's that weekend and Lee did'nt want to be in the way.. You need to ask the Frazier about the curtain rods. He's the only one to see the package. No one else did or claimed to.
TrueNovice 10 months ago
@TrueNovice And his sister did as well.
The fact remains he went home early, he left his wedding ring at the house, most of his money with a note to get Junie some shoes. They found his rifle at his work. The rifle was missing at the house.
It doesn't take too much to realize that he got the rifle, shot Kennedy, hid the rifle, fled the scene etc etc.
Guilty as sin.
But you can keep on denying all you want. It won't change a thing.
autoad 10 months ago
@autoad Marina also told the WC that Lee was so weak she was able to prevent Lee from leaving the bathroom by holding the door shut from the outside. By doing so she saved the life of then future President Richard Milhouse Nixon.
TrueNovice 10 months ago
@autoad The bag was supposedly found near the sniper's layer, but the police did not photograph it. In the WC exhibits it is a shown as a dotted line where it was supposedly found. There is no evidence whatsoever that this bag ever held a rifle.
TrueNovice 10 months ago
@TrueNovice If you want to believe none of this evidence matters, go right ahead.It's a free country.
autoad 10 months ago
@binslick LHO's handwriting was matched to the order form. Marina photographed him with the rifle, pistol . the camera used was matched forensically to the negatives found in Ruth Paine's garage. LHO filled one order that day at the TDBD. If he arrived for work at 9:00 am he had 3 1/2 hour window of opportunity to build the nest. His finger/palm prints were found on many of the boxes. His decent from the 6th floor was recreated and it cam be done with ease and time to spare. LHO.. guilty as sin!
autoad 11 months ago
@autoad Oswald's decent was recreated without using facts by the fbi.Baker jogged in his recreation,he didn't sprint,which was verified in the couch film.Nice try
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the guy on the phone at the beginning
chicagosoxs99 1 year ago
chicagosoxs99
BOB WALKER IS MY GRANDPA
chicagosoxs99 1 year ago
Another Z film alteration found.
See video: JFK Assassination - Pink Rose - A song about Jackie.
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At 1:30-34 see the man in white shirt & hat/helmet next to the light pole.
All the people after him going toward the bridge do not match # of people & clothes color on the Z film. People are dubbed in on the Z film, proving alterations.
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And all 4 cycle cops are not always behind the limo, as the Z film implies. We would have seen at least the right-side cycle cops shoulders / heads / helmets.
grassyknollkiller 1 year ago
Does anybody know a video on youtube or to google, to see the interior of the TSBD? I mean: how many elevators? how many stairs (to escape?)? Interesting to know. To see drawings (architecture). It is all concentrated on that "snipers den", but not some information on the whole building. I know that it is a museum now, but for me it's a long way to Texas. A state that is great!
petereuropa 1 year ago
@ Yes he did.
basenjib123 1 year ago
It's almost beside the point whether or not Oswald is guilty. If he is guilty, it just means that a CIA dupe killed Kennedy
luridplanet 1 year ago
Tippit to kll oswald he figured it out when the killing of kennedy took place before he would be involved then he panicked and knew he was set up for this he was an ametuer dealing with persons that did this kinda stuff as a job classification.People are sheep you can divide and conquer easy in this country.
spinners123 1 year ago
@spinners123
agree
lowlandr 1 year ago
If Oswald was so innocent why did he gun down Officer Tippet?
basenjib123 2 years ago
@basenjib123: did he gun down Officer Tippet?
? ? ?
petereuropa 2 years ago
No evidence that Oswald gunned down Tippet. Anything claimed by the Warren Commission was a fabrication. The person who shot Tippet was probably after Oswald to silence him.
Cubatraveler 1 year ago
@Cubatraveler
agree
lowlandr 1 year ago
My father is good friend's with a club owner in Waco, TX that happens to know a restaurant owner, Corky Campisi, in Dallas, TX. He told me Corky stated his father took cigarettes to Oswald while he was in jail. The Campisi's are a known mafia family. I thought that was interesting.
ohnickoli 2 years ago
Jackie Kennedy indicated that LBJ wanted her to ride with him. Why was that? Conspiracy? Your thoughts.
epdisme 2 years ago
Obviously, he was afraid that she'd be killed accidentally. There was a major fight between Kennedy and Johnson the night before the assassination. LBJ wanted his hated enemy, Sen. Ralph Yarborough to ride with Kennedy, for the obvious reasons. Connally knew what was going to happen and looked nervous and distracted through most of the motorcade.
squirevet 2 years ago
Ruby loved JFK and killed Oswald to avenge his hero and to console Jackie.
paraconti 2 years ago
Ruby blames Johnson as the main plotter.
it is now on Utube, you can hear him putting the blame on Johnson.
045781 2 years ago
Oh common! You BELIEVE the words of a convicted murderer? When he said he did it for jackie he wasn't convicted yet, and was more likely to be believed. So he told the truth then.
paraconti 2 years ago
Ok then believe who ever you want, but Johnson lawyer and mistress blame Johnson.
And a finger print was found in the TSBD to belong to Johnson's paid assasin.
045781 2 years ago
You actually believe the crap they feed you on the internet, don't you? Have you even READ the Warren Commission volumes? Or done some serious research at the JFK Assassination Library? Or do you just watch documentaries and accept everything others tell you? Do your own checking. You'll find out that for every fact you have to support silly conspiracies, there is clear evidence that CONTRADICTS them (like that fingerprint of LBJ's associate [Mike Wallace]).
paraconti 2 years ago
Yes the Warren Report has Ann Mercer saying she did not recognize the driver in In front of the Grassy Knoll.
She has stated the Warren Report lied about her statement.
She said it was Ruby driving a pick up in front of Grassy Knoll dropping off a man with a rifle.
And she said her signature was forged on the statement.
045781 2 years ago
HeLLLoo!!! Where did you get that silly info? On the NET again? For your REAL info:
1) Ann Mercer never claimed she did not recognize the driver. Her subsequent RECONFIRMATION of the positive identification in 1974 (and that it wasn't Ruby she saw and she signed the statement) is found in the JFK achives.
Mercer also indicated her so-called contradictions was probably due to her being interviewed while in hospital and under sedation back in 1966.
paraconti 2 years ago
Who did she talk to in 74 cause the HSCA said they could not find her ?
Ann Mercer was later using her married name cause she was fearful of being killed herself.
045781 2 years ago
@045781: and that was a 100% fingerprint match! A man who had killed at least one person (official), his name = M. Wallace. And this evidence (fingerprint) just slowly vanished, and was more or less forgotten in the investigation ust like it was washed in a washing-machine....................?
petereuropa 2 years ago
@petereuropa
Johnson was a cold blooded killer he had people killed before JFK, he had no problem ordering a killing.
045781 2 years ago
@045781: yes, the Warren Commission Report is just like a bible. What is written there is what happened! Period!
Mr Warren: "new evidence? Bah!"
petereuropa 2 years ago
The Warren Commission investigation represented a threat to toilet paper manufacturers.The manufactures of toilet paper anguish & predicament turns out to be the metaphor for understanding the aftermath of used toilet paper.The entire vast apparatus of the USG had been put in motion to cover-up their involvement in the assassination.But once the facts pointed overwhelmingly to USG involvement. The cover-up had to protect individuals and bureaucracies.
045781 2 years ago
@045781
I don't quite understand your comment.
anguish & predicament?
petereuropa 2 years ago
Anguish that the competition for toilet paper sales was high due to the WC.
Predicament was that in the end most individuals used the paper from WC to wipe their asses.
045781 2 years ago
Ruby was seen with Oswald in his club, that is a fact.
045781 2 years ago
oswald was innocent, the mafia did it.
mrwario1 2 years ago
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richardbuckminster 2 years ago
Shut Oswald up about what, that's the question.
Jeff051176 2 years ago
POSITIVE CIA ID
Want to see the Cuban JFK assassin conspirator, David Sanchez Morales, Operations Chief for CIA JMWAVE, and in the CIA assassination group ZR/RIFLE?
Then look at the Zapruder film.
See Morales dressed in white clothes across the street, just after the freeway sign, and wearing a black type of bullet proof vest. He holds out his arm and then lowers it.
Before Kevlar was developed in 1965, a bullet proof vest material can look like that worn by Morales.
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134jallen 2 years ago
LBJ was also part of the plot per his attorney and mistress.
045781 2 years ago
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Next, look at the Index of Photographers, Phillip Willis, number 6, at jfkmurderphotos(.)bravehost(.) com
Morales is casually walking away in the opposite direction. Notice his look, clothes, hair, sunglasses.
On Yahoo Search put in: morales jmwave.
Then click on: David Sanchez Morales, at spartucus,schoolnet. See his pics. Same look, clothes, hair, sunglasses.
CONSPIRACY Proof
The CIA is proven to be on Elm St. with an extended arm signal to begin shooting at JFK.
134jallen 2 years ago
so lemme get this straight...oswald, who is an american citizen, got killed before he had a case to defend by some random citizen who happened to be carrying a gun? interesting...
siLveRscOpe13x 2 years ago
Look up J.Edgar Hoover
The man who ran the government underground for years and was also head of FBI.
READ THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS
guitarislife103 2 years ago
The JFK assasination is The Great American Intelligence Test. Anyone who believes all this conspiracy crap fails the test.
Quercusalba2 2 years ago
your just a government dog...
You believe everything u hear and see on the news and do exactly what your government tells you.
Open your eyes man, theres a much bigger picture
Films404 2 years ago
I watched this live, sitting on the couch in our living room. I was 8. I was glad he got shot at the time, but now I wish the bastard had gone on trial.
matapan50 2 years ago
You fucking red neck!
williamkanegateshead 2 years ago
Same to you you motherfucker.
matapan50 2 years ago
I take it you're American.........
williamkanegateshead 2 years ago
No motherfucker I am HALF-American. The other half is. . .oh fuck it's ENGLISH. From some place called Hampshire.I guess that side is where I get all the worst qualities from, and your'e living proof that monkeys can write.
matapan50 2 years ago
.....and you are living proof that Americans can't!
Apologies to all nice Americans but this bloke is a complete wanker and it was sooooooooo easy to reply!
williamkanegateshead 2 years ago
Fuck off asshole.Better scurry off to the mosque your imam is waiting for you.
matapan50 2 years ago
Hmmm. Born in England with Irish ancestry. Roman Catholic. I really must tell my priest about you, you plum. Maybe he'll pray for you.
williamkanegateshead 2 years ago
Yeah you do that fuckhead. I'm sure you tell him EVERYTHING. There's no great virtue in being RC; quitting that fucked-up church was best thing my C of E mother ever did. But you go ahead man, you open yourself to him, you lay it bare buddy, I'm sure he'll be all over that
matapan50 2 years ago
I never said there was any great virtue in it. I was merely pointing out that I'm not a muslim.
williamkanegateshead 2 years ago
OSWALD WAS INNOCENT
ricemilk 2 years ago 18
Possible. But not likely.
matapan50 2 years ago
Possibly AND likely.
Nlmichiej 2 years ago 3
He was they just blame anybody!
HollisterBeauty2025 1 year ago
@ricemilk... AGREED
tracy4good 1 year ago
one less fuckin democrat.
archeeizm 3 years ago
franz learn about fascism or corperatism-
stop being stupid and childlike.
the mob doesnt have snipers?
The enemy of my enemy is my friend...
giantshadows 3 years ago
The mob doesnt have snipers, they would contract out , and no doubt the Gov. and the mob has list of pros they utilize . the ONLY people who could cover up wld B the Gov., so why wld they cover up for the mob ,Doesn't make sense .
The mob doesn't control the history channel , or the Times, or the CIA connected Post . Opps , guess there's more than one type of mob.
franz909 3 years ago
this man wouldnt be dead if he never attempted the bay of pigs in cuba...he pissed off the Mob because they had casinos over there...so they took care of him and his brother
coryrules777 3 years ago
that is what you get mother fucker nobody kills the president and gets away with it.
Corleone2239 3 years ago
obviously that's a false statement...Whoever killed kennedy got away with it.
Krazede 3 years ago 6
The people who killed the president got away with it.
Cadmium77 3 years ago 3
Oh Jesus, Corleone, your statement could not be anymore wrong!! look at the facts: Watch the Zapruder footage of Kennedy being shot , bullets hitting him from the front!.Therefore we have IRREFUTABLE evidence that there was more than one shooter that day, & yet nobody has ever been brought to justice. They all 'got away with it'. Silly boy!
BigDan777 2 years ago